This Is What a "Second-Person" Video Game Would Look Like

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1:28 - Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne
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[@altaraiser1054]

Thanks for the subtitle man, my english hearing is bad.

[@SquirrelTheorist]

That's cool! Thank you!

[@barryallen1035]

@Nick Robinson You know what this is, right? This is kind of like "Inception"

[@ElectroBolt771]

basically 2nd person is MC with replay mod, but you can control the charecter in the video

[@SquirrelTheorist]

@@ElectroBolt771 I never saw the replay mod, thank you very much for pointing that out! awesome

[@ThatSpaceMann]

So 2nd person is basically: You control Person 1, but your view is from the perspective of Person 2, who is watching Person 1.

[@babylonian]

correct!

[@kingendas1624]

I think Trevor saves the Universe is the perfect example

[@dom1nozs]

So like Moss vr

[@therealepic2196]

It’s basically a third person game or first person I guess where the player you control is you

[@stikasqr9500]

So basically you are spectating someone seeing you while you control the person that the person that you are spectating is seeing you That would be weird.

[@SirButtRichardson]

“Without arousing suspicion” “THaTs mY CaR”

[@LucyferAngel]

WHY CANT I STOP LAUGHING

[@VulpinetideCuteTimes0w0]

I DON"T KNOW YOU!!!

[@nicholaslokos7949]

Guys we have discovered the rare substance on the internet that real people like to call "the funny."

[@hira9541]

Ayy 666

[@adrianyourlordandsaviour]

Why did I laugh

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

The 2nd perspective in games too is also applied on "No one lives under the lighthouse" when during a chase scene your perspective is the monster's and you have to run away, but the trick being is that the farther you are the harder it is to see where you're going, forcing you to stay close to the monster as to not get lost

[@Lulee1277]

I just commented this, sorry for accidentally stealing🤷‍♂️

[@aplattner317]

This is exactly what I was thinking of

[@TheLogg]

you forgot the end quotation mark.

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

@@TheLogg LOL you're right

[@nickmeyer238]

Think this is also in Psychonauts 1 when you're fleeing the lake monster.

[@nekomancer350]

Very interesting video. Wasn't expecting the "second-person" perspective to translate in such a strange and unique way. Props to whoever came up with the idea for that mission.

[@itstimeforlee]

It doesn't, this is still 3rd person.

[@rasmusasd3868]

except its not, youre uneducated@@itstimeforlee

[@milanek1527]

Maybe, but the thing different here is that you are seeing it from a different NPC. Not just a camera above your head. Like someone mentioned, in a game where a monster chases you, the 2nd person was that you had the perspective of the monster, but you were controlling yourself. You are seeing *You* being chased by this monster, forcing you to stay kinda close so you see where you are going.​@@itstimeforlee

[@_Cfocus]

@@itstimeforlee it does, if you make it an actual online player, you see yourself through him and he sees himself through you. probably wouldnt work as a car chasing game, might be something like a wrestling game or a fighter game

[@_Cfocus]

@@itstimeforlee because "you" is kind of similar to "he" so the concept in the video game seems similar but there is a slight difference

[@derdodel7978]

4th person: your character reads a newspaper about the events of the game

[@mengoicetea3805]

5th person: your character’s cousin tells you his roommate told him about reading the news paper about the events of the game

[@danielmartin6887]

Rockstar has already done that

[@JackOLanter]

4th person would be like Super Smash. "Us" everybody shares the same screen.

[@dani.munoz.a23]

Funnily enough, in this game the character is in a coma and the events of the game are actually what he's hearing on the news subconsiously

[@lazer2414]

lol that doesnt work like that

[@jamiechamplain8728]

2nd person is when you’re watching your big brother finish the hard level for you

[@lindatubetv2503]

You clearly hold the crown here

[@crashbandit8032]

@@NagatoOPRESSORTHUGLIFE Brah you have no room to talk.....

[@flines]

in the case im the big brother

[@sgt.sanderson3907]

yes!!

[@justadefaultok5201]

👌

[@NickCombs]

A 2nd person game could also be about indirect control of the main character. Imagine a main character that narrates and makes their own decisions, but you control the environment that affects their choices. That would be very similar to a story told from a “you” perspective. The Driver level is similar because “you” are the chasing driver who isn’t directly controlled.

[@trapOrdoom]

Seems like you could basically make the illusion of 2nd person by storytelling and writing… such an interesting concept.

[@MyPlanetIsPluto]

There's games where you give commands through a headset. as well

[@NickCombs]

In a way, the sims and city builders are 2nd person stories told from the perspective of the characters, but controlled indirectly through gameplay.

[@Daniel03YT]

There arent many games where one controls only a side character

[@pstbukkie]

That is what 3rd person is.

[@Dylanquinn666]

Second person perspective is the moment of existential dread you experience when you're playing animal crossing and you catch a glimpse of your own tired reflection on your switch screen when it fades to black at 5am.

[@burgndii]

In fact, in Happy Home Designer (3ds/2ds), when you put the room camera down and control yourself, you're doing so from 2nd pov. Just realized this

[@megglezeee6090]

It’s crazy how well he can describe a simple video game clip like it’s an ancient work of art.

[@specificboi362]

its not that simple

[@baigle762]

He makes it sound like its a real car crash

[@DankWilliams_Jr.]

I’ve only seen the game on neilogical’s channel and thought cool game But then I watched this and was taken to a deeper level

[@Polyglot_English]

🤙 Determinism is Freedom 🤙 Детерминизм это Свобода 🤙

[@dwugtwee]

Welp, this is what the whole channel is about

[@babblebabble]

I’ve never seen a game bug that was described this much cinematically

[@truxtonton]

babblebabble I know right?

[@keysersoze9651]

Its like cinefix describing best movie moments of all time

[@akaXAX]

@@truxtonton lmao he acts like this was life changing experience that forever rocked him to his core

[@truxtonton]

Xax lmao yeah,love it though

[@solantir3243]

@@akaXAX true lulw

[@joemama114]

2nd person camera is the crash bandicoot camera, where you're running from the bolder.

[@ElikiaVlogs]

Exactly. You need to see yourself play face to face, not back to back as a third… it’s so simple and he managed to make a complicated video of non sense out of it without even talk about the real 2nd

[@killingsali]

Baldurs gate 3 has a lot of 2nd person interactions due to the Game master element, where your character, ie. you in the game, are being told what your experience is, like "As you are walking into the room, you feel a strange, but yet familiar scent. It takes you back to when you were a kid, and you immediate recognize the smell".

[@bosobot]

it's just a narration though, a stamp for any RPG. it doesn't involve an actual second perspective gameplay

[@grimrow]

first person: Me third person: He second person: *DRIVER SAN FRANCISCO*

[@riddlemethisriddlemethat2947]

I went second person one time

[@reducedatom16yearsago55]

Yes that game is so good

[@jkterjters]

@@riddlemethisriddlemethat2947 I go second person whenever I slip on ice in winter.

[@Makochips]

if there is a narrator in a game, that's second person I think and speaking of 2nd person games, I think undertale and deltarune are 2nd person games "you are filled with determination"

[@TheRezro]

@@Makochips No, second person is the other person. 1'st Person. You see through eyes of the character. 2'd Person. Character is seen through someone else eyes. 3'd Person. Is when we see action from detached "flying bird" point of view.

[@edwnx0]

second person: watching a let's play

[@TykoBrian7]

Duh

[@lilcircumcision91]

Holy fuck

[@glados.1152]

Edwin Contreras but then a person has to play it so it becomes 1st or 3rd view which could be classified as 2nd person but then since it’s a let’s play it becomes 1st or 3rd.

[@robertchappell8086]

Second person- watching your own let's play

[@98SE]

@@masonsaccount Yes! That would be really creepily weird, I'm gonna have nightmares now of me glitching through my bedroom ceiling to the 32 bit integer limit and my brain will crash... @(

[@math9172]

There is a boss battle in TloZ : Phantom Hourglass that uses the double screen of the DS to show you the point of view of the boss. Since the boss is invisible, you have to mostly rely on this to avoid its attacks and hit it. It was probably one of the more memorable moments of this game for me. Especially since this mechanic comes back (but less intensely) for the final boss.

[@auriyewolf4576]

That boss fucked me up as a kid, but i remember it to this day

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

I wouldn't say less intensely as it was longer than the big bug granted the final boss had more health than the bug but still lol Actually i would have loved if you could have had the phantoms on the top screen like their POV hunting Link as link is going through. To not be too broken lets say when he gets all 3 pure metals so the final trip through that dungeon

[@lapis591]

The player's point-of-view (Link) is still third-person. The glimpse into the boss from first-person perspective doesn't change that.

[@math9172]

@@lapis591 Not really, because during the fight you almost exclusively use the top screen with the bosses' view. You indeed still have the 3rd person view on the touch screen to still control Link (with touch movements), but in order to dodge the bosses attacks and to shoot him in the eyes, you *have* to use the "2nd person" for most of the boss.

[@mikegoossens5511]

Both Jak 2 and Ratchet and Clank 3 have a 2nd person level and 2nd person Boss fight (partly) respectively

[@greenlungo3996]

I like how this video discussed the topic and used literary narrative as the premise. But by that definition, everything we've been calling 3rd person all along is actually 2nd person. The example with the car chase is the rare instance of true 3rd person. In most games, the player watches the character directly and the controller input narrates to your character thing like "You go forward. You turn left. Now you strike". In Driver: San Francisco's chase scene, the inputs narrate "He turns, then he accelerates" while the second person is YOU driving to pursue HIM. The player, the viewer and the character make 3 people.

[@bridebaker9317]

Thank you for saying it

[@Morty_Mcfly2]

Yes

[@RafaelBelvederese]

@@bridebaker9317 thank you for thanking him.

[@haydenelliott6799]

No lol, you don't fully understand them. 1st person is through the eyes of the main character, 2nd person is from the eyes of another person, 3rd person is watching it happen not from any one characters perspective

[@domr9887]

I've never heard anyone make a glitch sound so dramatic

[@sonchew]

he seems like to solve a damn mystery

[@wood_barrel]

No shit.

[@Razielbergamini]

Seriously. It made me stop watching.

[@coreyc9432]

@@Razielbergamini lmao, made me keep watching

[@PaxxTan]

@@coreyc9432 same. I was all in

[@nessfinesse3195]

So second person is whenever I'm with a friend and try to play while looking at the other side of the split screen.

[@shrilleth]

fucking this. when I'm really far with a sniper and I'm trying to see how I should adjust my shot so I see where they're landing on his screen

[@floppymoonfish4882]

@@shrilleth Absoloutely Fantastic!

[@gideone9802]

There we go! I do this all the time.

[@bayurukmanajati1224]

You can also playing Call of Duty, but only killcam allowed. So no first person for you.

[@Okamiyourgod]

NessFinesse yes

[@clooliss6400]

I have wondered this and am glad you showed an example, thank you.

[@penguincute3564]

First person: You are *_YOU_* (in game) Second person: You are *_I_* (irl) Third person: You are *_HIM_* (in game)

[@FF-tk2zs]

2nd person: playing as your character through the eyes of the enemy

[@thurlmiah]

FF5615 perfect... all he had to say

[@KyranSparda]

Basically, Siren the game?

[@pforzheim4837]

Thank you for saving me 15 minutes

[@Qualificationz]

Ratchet and Clank 3 Tyrranoid boss

[@Mecal21]

That's what I was thinking before watching the video!

[@omnisel]

"What's a second person video game?" > just looking for an excuse to talk about Driver San Francisco again

[@forti8209]

totally accurate battle sim

[@colei8752]

@@KINGJERMARCUS Ok, I won't.

[@VX3800]

KING JERMARCUS we weren’t going to anyway, dropkick

[@sneerfulcone9989]

@@KINGJERMARCUS Ok

[@keijijohnson9754]

That’s what it looked like at the 13:25 mark. Honestly should’ve just ended it there.

[@toamastar]

Such a fascinating video and concept! I like to think the Devs knew what they were doing when they made the part where you can turn around and have a unique experience, kind of like an Easter Egg. I would compare it to the movie version of Ready Player One with the race scene but that movie came out literally years after this game so i dont think there is a comparison and unrelated the book is better. Anyway, great video, new here! might stick around :)

[@onyx9935]

I remember seeing a review of a horror game, called something like “under the lighthouse” and I remember how the chase sequences are surprising because it starts by abruptly putting you into the POV of the monster chasing you while you try to run away

[@redex1098]

Don’t you hate it when you meet yourself in second person and then accidentally destroy reality?

[@veekay_t]

Yeah it's so annoying

[@ZoeBateman]

Truly an "oops" moment

[@CLK944]

Ugh happens all the time

[@CoTyyy]

Don't you just hate it when you no clip out of reality and end up in * T H E B A C K R O O M S*

[@sirisaac6225]

Mondays am I right?

[@sunooIuvr]

this has the same energy as when you're playing mariokart with someone and they're behind you and you watch yourself on their half of the screen

[@GYM829]

Lol I use to love doing that as a kid. When me and my brother would play HALO Co-op I would always look at his screen and control myself from that perspective whenever possible

[@JohnMarston0123]

That’s possible in any split screen game

[@mintymango3717]

😂😂😂

[@gvtterslag]

My little sister always says something like "haha I'm cheating cuz I can see your screen" whenever we play split screen together. It's really funny and cute.

[@jalentayshaun]

Wow I used to do this all the time with COD too

[@Lucifronz]

As someone else mentioned when someone brought up horror games, this concept exists in the Forbidden Siren series. A blind character in the first game uses you as their navigator, but it's mainly just by having you turn to look at them so they can gauge where they are from your perspective. The *second* game, however, allows you to play as a blind character named "Shu" who sees through his seeing-eye dog. The whole game revolves around this sight mechanic overall, but with Shu it's how *you* navigate. You see entirely from the dog's perspective as it follows quietly behind Shu and it's very interesting. This might be hard to make work for a whole game, but I think it could. There are lots of scenarios where it could be feasible. Like a cameraman following a reporter around, or a drone buzzing around a person's head or scooting along the ground like a roomba or something and trying to keep up. The potential is there. Just takes someone brave enough to try it.

[@Knightess]

You may think about that mission in Driver SF a lot, but I think about your video essay on it a lot too. Nice work.

[@gugfitufi4862]

There are two things in Nick's life: - Japan - Driver San Francisco

[@ryandeleva5497]

You forgot Hatsune Miku pizza app

[@egarjanis]

Maybe we need Driver Japan...

[@tdelfino2509]

There's also hyper-realistic features on cartoony characters (Mario's hair, Pokemon: Detective Pikachu)

[@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225]

_Friggin' Car-Weeb..._

[@tatehammontree2636]

-not checking what time it is

[@TheSchnieder6]

1st person: Through the character's eyes 2nd person: Seeing your character through another character's eyes 3rd person: Seeing your character through your eyes

[@ImAfemaleNoob2]

4th person: Seeing another character through your eyes, while looking at your character.

[@masterdoge1921]

Woah confusion reborn

[@liu3chan]

@@ImAfemaleNoob2 so ummm a mirror?

[@youwhenyouyouwhenuhhhhyea5794]

26th person: we don’t fucking know anymore

[@Wm7forthewin]

0th person: seeing through your own eyes

[@cobrax236]

FUUUU THAT AD PLACEMENT WAS MEEAN! 😂

this is one of my favourite videos, EVER. I have been looking for this video. I laways think of it. Something makes me love it.

[@Epilepson]

Basically, 2nd person: third person but a character is a camera

[@mfmr200]

What

[@Supaserrin]

Now that you mention it, in Super Mario 64, Lakitu is controlling the camera. So technically, it was a second person game all along.

[@shanbur6721]

Supaserrin oh shit

[@swiftripper7557]

*Character is a camera

[@Supaserrin]

@@swiftripper7557 I think if you say that the camera is a character instead, the concept is better understood. You play the game, and a camera is watching you, but if that camera is actually someone you can interact with, THEN it's second person instead of third.

[@CelestialDraconis]

*First Person:* Me *Third Person:* He/She *Second Person:* No u

[@easthulk99]

No ... U

[@ethannguyen1001]

No U

[@hamborger8738]

No U

[@boore7613]

@@easthulk99 uno reverse card

[@anandsuralkar2947]

Lol

[@RFC3514]

"First person" and "third person" are simply about your _point of view_ (as a player). Being in a car "chasing yourself" is really just a mix of first and third person, because you're still effectively controlling everything. A "2nd person game" would simply be a game where you always see things from the point of view of an _independent_ (i.e., AI-driven, or script-driven) NPC that your character might be _interacting_ with (basically, it looks like a first-person POV, but instead of the camera being the player character's eyes, it's some NPC's eyes, aimed at the PC, while you're controlling _only_ the PC - though I guess that part goes without saying, because whichever character you're controlling is effectively the "player character" at that point, even if it wasn't at a different stage of the game).

[@henrikaugustsson4041]

Yeah. Second person would be like seeing yourself in a police body cam, roughly. You'd be seeing yourself from the perspective of the person you're interacting with. If it were a combat game, you'd see yourself from the eyes of the enemies.

[@theblinkingbrownie4654]

Yeah was gonna say, while the car scene is cool and all, that's definitely 3rd person if you count yourself as the running car and 1st person as the tailing car. It's both mixed, not 2nd person.

[@Cleanframe]

It would be the view of the co-op partner or spectator mode, but still showing what you are doing

[@akiraie187]

The real second person was the friends we made along the way.

[@slimeforeal7894]

I love Emilia Rem is best girl fam sry🤷‍♂️

[@misterdj6671]

uibut tp difftz

[@evilcardiac953]

Like bomb defuser simulator?

[@dankziq5435]

*faxx*

[@squeaky5674]

That’s... not deep at all

[@EllaGP22]

Who knew “second person” was an out of body experience.

[@KazBrownRP]

you did.

[@serjdown8760]

Wassup banditø

[@Bananaman431]

Speed _ |-/

[@saltysnowboi]

Kenny Warren you, you sly bastard

[@anthonyramirez6325]

So third-preson

[@Joel_woodwork]

I love this game I have fond memories of my dad showing me driverSanFrancisco for the first time and it is probably my favourite game I am glad to see someone else who feels the same also just cause 3 for some reason reminds me of it

[@MarionetteKazuko]

original battletoads on nes did this with the fight that takes place from the perspective of the boss in the mech suit, u control ur character(s) that it can see dodging rocks and what not.

[@burnmydxead]

Local man creates black hole: "He just wanted to talk about Driver San Francisco again" , local witness says

[@burnmydxead]

@@KINGJERMARCUS That's exactly why your parents don't love you.

[@maruftim]

@@burnmydxead fact

[@Juhsuwah]

@@burnmydxead LMAO

[@TheGr0nch]

DSF is hella good tho

[@tempbees4713]

KING JERMARCUS we won't

[@vitowidjojo7038]

Imagine a horror game uses this concept. You control yourself in the monster's perspective as you are chased by it.

[@Julsiy]

Tomb raider legend does this... for a bit lol

[@tiramiisu0]

you genius

[@yekna459]

But how would that work? The monster can only move when you do, right!

[@scat3926]

@@yekna459 nope you would run away from an A.I. controlled monster

[@awesumtoast97]

@@drdnd5078 siren was so underrated. And siren blood curse was fucking amazing. I remember doing the haunted house on Playstation home was my favorite cause it was so hard and scary

[@cosmibig1656]

I've seen this in a horror game as well, where you take care of a light tower, in first person tho, after some type you start getting chased by a monster, but right after he starts chasing you the camera switches to his eyes, the thing is yours not controlling the monster, you are stilll controlling yourself while seeing the monster's view of following you

[@demontongue9893]

Came back to this video after 4 years and it's still brilliant

[@justasillyguyonyt]

So basically looking over at someone else’s screen while playing a split screen game and seeing yourself walk around

[@ccvcharger]

pretty much

[@lestat305]

Yuh

[@DeltaKT]

Haha I always do this on Gran Turismo when I overtake someone on splitscreen

[@AlwaysResoak]

I swear GTA San Andrea's did similar things with perspective like this

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

@@AlwaysResoak there's an entire game about it called I think screencheat or screenpeek or something

[@samdavies2422]

*You have been assigned to kill you* Me: Finally, a worthy opponent

[@ToaHurlak52]

"Why am I not satisfied?"

[@enchanted4468]

Our battle will be legendary

[@badr724]

That's me in rdr2

[@ishotudropdead]

Ohhh am I approaching me?

[@lolxd3714]

@@enchanted4468 *a WORTHY OPPONENT*

[@jamie74gemini87]

Microprose Grand Prix had this in 1992 where you could view 'you' and control 'you' from the chasing car.

[@atsusoshiki6331]

I remember watching this same video a while ago, and while rewatching this game, that san francisco mission, reminds me of a game that I used to play alot while I was longer that adopted the same perspective.. I forgot the name, but I think there are many games nowadays that implement this mechanic where you move from a 2nd person perspective. Idk if this san francisco game pioneered it, but either way its still very cool. And you pay attention to some newer and even some other older games you will see this mechanic actually portrayed alot more than you realize.

[@elijah3409]

Imagine GTA V but you're the civilian and you have to hide from a maniac who goes around the city

[@maxhaibara8828]

That will be a first person game where the civilian is the main character. So, it's not second person.

[@darrenjimenezreyes2798]

Ok, you watch everything through the eyes of a civillian but you still control the maniac

[@DanielRiossuper1rios]

sodas so basically real life?

[@darrenjimenezreyes2798]

@@DanielRiossuper1rios yeah but we are controlling the maniac

[@DanielRiossuper1rios]

@@darrenjimenezreyes2798 but in life we can become the maniac if we chose to as well....? haha i'm just saying life is already crazy and to go around having a game where you have that happen would be real life like paranoia.

[@Beans-wr3hu]

This is the beyond at bed bath and beyond

[@JoshQwerty]

Beyond the golden arches

[@Efwin197]

Hi

[@XlissueslXgaming]

We need to go to the beyond and while we are there, let's grab a remote control

[@XlissueslXgaming]

@Clint Sandlin that's right, you can only get it from Christopher Walken though

[@thecommunist2646]

Beyond Walmart And Beyond

[@calmnarrative]

Yes, this is Second Person perspective. The writing here will be like, "You went right", "You went left" an so on. Great video.

[@parkman29]

Imagine a game where you are activelyt fighting the main character as the narrator

[@pineapplepirate1017]

Second person is like when you look at a camera monitor to see yourself in a gas station

[@MrTrombonebandgeek]

Super mario 64 is second person technically

[@nhutnguyen4655]

Minh Trần Việt Nam :))))

[@azaeru8914]

@@MrTrombonebandgeek No.

[@fabianblom2458]

@@azaeru8914 Well yeah because it's all from the perspective of Lakittu.

[@azaeru8914]

@@fabianblom2458 No.

[@toxicastigator]

The “you’re chasing yourself” perspective is incredibly unique and one that strangely terrifies me.

[@samotr7713]

ok

[@toxicastigator]

@@samotr7713 Are you still upset that no one joined your stream # #?

[@samotr7713]

@@toxicastigator yes 😔

[@LeonPessanha]

Nailed it

[@toxicastigator]

@sacr3d g6om9try you don’t believe in individuality? Like as in: everyone around me is similar to me in many ways but only I am myself?

[@angieulaka]

That one boss battle from Battletoads alwasy stuck in my mind in regards to second-person games. Althuhg I recall afew other games of the era also did that perspective swap.

[@lm9029]

Another instances of 2'nd person in games is Metal Gear Solid 1 if you hold the camera button just before and during the Psycho Mantis fight. Also in Rayman on the world map you view the level select from the perspective of the antagonist as he tracks the hero's progress through binoculars.

[@kettlepetal3138]

Some dev out there needs to make an entire game about stalker- you play the character being stalked but the view is from the perspective of the stalker the entire time

[@AzizTheGazele552]

early resident evil?

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

Imagine you dont actually know this until the game ends. Maybe you can see your camera stalker from specific angles in mirrors and windows but you dont know who it is until you reach the end and its revealed that you’ve been looking through the eyes of the horror you’ve been trying to escape

[@adventuretails3479]

​@@eldritchcupcakes3195dude. Yes!

[@llamaturtle6979]

@@eldritchcupcakes3195I LOVE THIS IDEA SO MUCH

[@liselotteline8596]

Braid has a concept like that.

[@daddydanny6566]

This guy made a simple question with a complex answer into an even more complex answer that somehow got everyone in they feels

[@zyuukii]

Like idk why but after this video I was like “pain😔”

[@gonelucid6270]

He made something complex that isn't complex. Same with your sentence.

[@Swole_Gecko]

At around the 10 minute mark i couldn't remember the reason I clicked this video and had to reread the title 🤣

[@puma7108]

I had nightmares because dog this video

[@kamikazex17_7]

Lol

[@Zak6009]

Not sure if this really counts, but have you played Tearaway Unfolded? It's hard to say if this is a "second person" situation or just a 4th wall elimination, but while the game has a character you control in third person, there is another character/entity known as the "You" which is the player controlling that character from up above, which leads to some existential clashes.

[@MarqueeShift]

2nd person is me playing my character through player 2 screen in split screen, it nice seeing the chaos i do from someone else's pov

[@sienacastricum8998]

“second person writing is pretty rare” wattpad authors: hold my beer

[@cyropower7808]

😂😂😂

[@mouman5506]

*hold my apple juice

[@coltonaallen]

There's a reason they "publish" in WattPad. Hahahaha

[@FaaduProductions]

Cringepad

[@offbrandbiscuit]

Except the abundance of Reader-Insert stories on Wattpad, perspective-wise, are incorrect. A lot of the time, I see authors using past tense verbs in their second-person reader-inserts, despite past tense mainly being used in third-person.

[@danielk.746]

Bro, u turned this game into a creepypasta.

[@Smileythefirst]

Lmao

[@kalynallen4431]

you are kinda right

[@FinalFantasyRainbowDash]

@Marcin Zalewski another example is when in a certain level in Spider Man Shattered Dimensions when the camera switch’s to the prospective of a sniper trying to snipe Spider Man even though Spider Man is the one you’re actually controlling.

[@FinalFantasyRainbowDash]

The Final level of the Spongbob Squarepants Movie video game is another example when you’re trying to get King Neptune who is being mind controlled by Plankton to fire his sniper laser thing at frozen Mr Krabs.

[@lwr2758]

Ikr I watched this at night and it gave me the chills

[@TheDoubleg94]

I like how this video started out about a theoretical game mode and ended with being a deep dive into driver San Francisco.

[@dylanhenry3277]

We need a VR game thats about police chases where the perspective works from the abgle of the cop chasing you, who has a GPS pulled up in view for the map

[@adarkwind4712]

“And drove directly at myself” welcome to the fourth level of inception.

[@TheEarlsRenegade]

You mean the 2nd perception of inception

[@lostinacatsmouth8389]

I felt real fear when he turned the car around on himself.

[@Abdullah.124]

Time stamp?

[@lostinacatsmouth8389]

@@Abdullah.124 8:53 :D

[@derek7284]

No you didnt

[@Dexuz]

@@derek7284 Yes he did. (We used all persons)

[@wibblwobbl]

same

[@zapman6528]

Before I finish the video, im going to say 2nd person would be point and click style games like Sierra or early lucasarts adventure games, or even the sims and RTS. The idea is you are essentially talking to the characters telling them what to do. I remember the first time I encountered 2nd person was in the Mayday Parker Spider-Girl comics. The Narrator was talking to spider girl. At first I thought it was an inner monologue but it would refer to her in situations where she wasnt present nor had knowledge of its events. Its definitely strange but curiously entertaining. I’ll edit this when I finish the vid.

[@homevalueglass3809]

Ha ha, I love the coose your own adventure-style narration video

[@SinkingDpr]

I can imagine a whole “second person” game based on this concept of playing as a person from the view of another person, you could be a person being stalked, trying to kill your stalker, all from the view of your stalker

[@beleques]

Xuan Boone Well not really. For it to be a third person perspective the “third person” needs to be completely detached from anything that is going on in the game. The third person does not exist in the game’s universe, but watches everything from outside. With a second person stalking game, the camera follows the perspective of an actual person that exists around the protagonist without being the protagonist itself.

[@alberttrita5858]

I just remembered screencheat exists!

[@spoockybro]

Isnt there a game where everyone is invisible, however you can see others screens, and every place is difrent.

[@mehmeh3894]

@@beleques Like the cameras in watchdogs, and you can move your guy while swapping perspective between mounted cameras

[@imafew3580]

Meh Meh cameras make it 3rd person.

[@jjshwa]

"I've always wondered what a second person video game would look like, so I booked a flight to Japan."

[@user-wk7ll7yn8z]

I don't understand the joke if there is any

[@alexapexgod4643]

مجهول الهوية Japan text why I’m I texting back wards wtf

[@nuggetangel103]

@@alexapexgod4643 *snrk* Cuz it ain't Japanese characters, and I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion.

[@agentloo9744]

@@alexapexgod4643 that's Arabian crap bro

[@alice-kq5ld]

He's trying to say that Japanese people look alike so it's like looking at yourself there.

[@RomanGuro]

Second-Person can be a top-down game when control a group of people

[@millennialprofessional4877]

Battle Toads first mission ends with a 2nd person view

[@Bestialce2007]

2nd person is: "I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude"

[@joaodjou]

tropical thunder is timeless

[@lesterjames-brooks4095]

😂

[@noface998]

"disguised as a monkey"

[@Ryzot]

All video games are second person. Youre controlling your character from the perspective of your own eyes.

[@LunaTank]

@@noface998 "I don't read the script, the script reads me"

[@sproga_265]

The OG second person game: "It is dark. You are likely to be eaten by a Gru."

[@sphrcl.]

What game is that?

[@sphrcl.]

It sounds familiar

[@babylonian]

Despicable Me: The Video Game

[@sphrcl.]

@@babylonian I really hope that was a joke

[@leiffitzsimmonsfrey1272]

@@sphrcl. Zork.

[@nathannortonmusic3554]

The game R.A.D also does this. You control a giant robot but are playing from the perspective of a person on the street.

[@THATBLUEBLAZER]

the mission in driver san francisco reminds me of the chase sequences in the horror game “no one lives under the lighthouse. you have to run away from the monster, but the monster is where the camera is. you need to stay near the monster so you can see, but not close enough to die. i just ran to the house to deload it.

[@starfox5165]

The way he described the car flying through the air was so emotionally investing I couldn’t stop listening

[@jdwildman24x74]

For real tho

[@luzmanhasif6071]

Time?

[@samanthamichniewicz870]

Rewound that part over and over again

[@melancholyroseate9811]

Yes!!!

[@triggadidon]

I played it back twice

[@idguakeren]

2nd person is basically a stalker's point of view

[@EricJCaraballoso]

Wouldn't this put an isometric camera perspective as 2nd person? Wasn't there a game that had you moving through security cameras' point of view?

[@assasing123sleep9]

@@EricJCaraballoso no because the camera is not an actor reacting to you.

[@EricJCaraballoso]

@@assasing123sleep9 who says it has to be an actor?

[@kmambu5950]

@@EricJCaraballoso I recall the game Republique having this mechanism

[@D3sdinova]

@@EricJCaraballoso the first resident evil, and dino crisis games use that point of view

[@kylethewolf]

2nd person game is a game when you don't control a character, but give them commands, for example you are stuck in a security office, with full access to doors, security cameras and such, the rest of the facility is full of monsters or zombies, and you spot a survivor that you need to lead to safety through opening/closing doors, giving commands through speakers, etc.

[@271chrissy]

I played Driver 1 for hours it was just the best back then and Driver 2 the city choice seemed so vast. Great vid man.

[@Alicia-cc3gy]

i feel like a truly 2nd person game would involve you witnessing your actions through other people’s eyes and then also seeing how your actions effect them

[@willialiem6991]

look for a game called ai dungeon. At first glance it might seem a bit confusing, however if you pay attention to how this game is "narrated" to the player, you will understand the concept closer from a 2 person perspective.

[@grimreaper894]

I wonder if the older resident evil games would make sense for 2nd person

[@muttonvindaloobeast8160]

@@grimreaper894 I agree, good point 👉

[@backwardmist2303]

The walking dead games

[@adahnliegl740]

Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy does something alike to that: You play two characters: The first an alleged criminal escaping an investigator by clearing clues and evidence he might leave, the second one... the investigator picking up on what you left or how you botched cleaning up.

[@Nullicity]

Basically 2nd person is when you're viewing your own character from another characters persepctive.

[@wewewe9373]

A sencond person shooter would be like this: you are the person being shot

[@Nullicity]

@@wewewe9373 You think you're shooting someone in a game but in reality you're killing yourself.

[@supercalifragilisticexpial2270]

@@Nullicity so you can have $e.x with yourself, nice.

[@stickmindevz]

@@Nullicity Suicide is fun

[@Nullicity]

@@supercalifragilisticexpial2270 wait no

[@AverageRoblosEnjoyer]

my idea of a second person game. as though the camera is facing you, as if it was another person. like how the event unfolds, the invisible, non-existent camera stands there.

[@spanx92]

This concept in horror games would be insane

[@cooperperkins1847]

I don't remember what it's called, but there is a horror game in which you have the ability to see out of the monster's eyes.

[@gpants1481]

@@cooperperkins1847 not sure about that game but I Live Dead by Daylight where you can play either as one of four survivors with their pov as third person or play as a killer with pov of first person.

[@YavuzTurgut]

@@cooperperkins1847 the game name was 'eyes' i guess

[@antonchigurr2722]

@@YavuzTurgut the name of the game is Forbidden Siren, its director, keichiro toyama, was the creator of the first silent hill. Its a masterpiece.

[@YavuzTurgut]

@@antonchigurr2722 I will check out then, thanks! :)

[@nagito8734]

"Now I'm not the first person to wonder about this" Does that make you the *second person?*

[@blazn0]

Shall I leave you out?

[@kordru]

@Ultimo Destruct-O for you - 1 like, 1 reply in 7 hours

[@peterc2448]

Budum tsh

[@BologneyT]

SOMEONE GETS IT

[@extremealier4143]

@C J *A L L P E R S O N*

[@ott0ma71c]

There's an old PS2 game Robot Alchemic Drive (i think that's the title) where you control giant robots a bit like you might an RC car. Whenever you take control of your robot your camera perspective is of the human controlling it even if you're view is obscured. If the building you're on top of to see the action is destroyed you're player character typically survives but you view drops to street level. When controlling the robots the game is pretty effectively 2nd person but considering how most missions play out it's usually just an awkward third person camera. Also i don't particularly recommend the game, it has an idea here or there but i feel the novelty wore out for me before finishing a playthrough, though versus mode with my brother was goofy fun.

[@RedHatGuyYT]

0th person is being inside the game

[@harrytx]

This weirdly sounds like a creepypasta

[@cellyjaneofficial]

Indeed it does! That's maybe why I jumped at mark 10:42 xD God dammit, I'm used to those bugs, but some of them just gets me off guard

[@Grimrose_04]

definitely gave me spooks for some reason lol

[@anandsuralkar582]

Lol yup

[@grandfatherofjimmyjoebilly9733]

this game is a creepypasta

[@Crozzzbonez0]

Maybe because we weren’t supposed to know about this?

[@zeusinfi4154]

"I turned around and drove the car in the second person directly at myself" *Breaking the universe, I guess*

[@ZackBlackwood97]

With the most tragic music and voice. There were no surviving cars

[@xxhowisuxx]

Lol. I recently played around with the level and got the car to turn over without crashing the mission. It just kinda sat there. Would recommend giving it a try, it's not a very long game, though I'm not sure if I share the idea that it's a really great game, it's unique.

[@robtoe10]

Like pushing the repel ends of two magnets together.

[@whiterabbit75]

For his next trick, he'll divide by zero.

[@xxhowisuxx]

@@whiterabbit75 that's essentially literally what happens when you drive the tanner's driving at the car Orlen's driving. The game doesn't know what to do so crazy shit happens. Somehow it doesn't crash the game.

[@bodaciouspizza]

First checkpoint starts timer likely to give players a moment to realize whats goin on

[@alx_carvalho]

This section of the game reminds me of a short storie called The Other by Jorge Luis Borges, a argentine writer. The sense of fascination from metting himself is similar to what you described so well.

[@BrooklynRises]

when he said “you’ve been assigned to kill...you.” CHILLS bro.

[@dani.munoz.a23]

MyNameIsCaution number 15

[@STARRbits]

MyNameIsCaution HoNESTLY

[@timmydirtyrat6015]

Calm down buddy.

[@jakoda2514]

@@dani.munoz.a23 lmao

[@optimyx2900]

Gemini Man lol

[@walrusrider8993]

Just saying this might be a really need way to make a horror game. Like the person is being stalked or something

[@JustKrin]

Like, you see yourself but at the same time you have to find a way of hiding from the character whose perspective you are watching. Where can I play something like this???

[@hexyko4850]

@@JustKrin That sounds like it would make the game easier

[@cabrinius]

@@hexyko4850 No it probably wouldn't.

[@abysswalker2115]

There is a game that goes very close this idea, siren blood curse. In it you have an ability that lets you “sight jack”, aka you can see the enemies perspective. Yet you still control your character with third person camera

[@echo8481]

And the stalker is us, cool!

[@azazeldeath]

In highschool for one of my English classes my pretty horrible teacher wanted me to write a "short story" in 2nd person, min page req was 200 pages. But it did give me a sense of how it would work, then years later I played driver san francisco and it clicked immediately. I also found out you could just avoid the first checkpoint and drove around for ages it is surreal but also found it calming. Admittedly id just had a car accident, fractured my spine so on high end painkillers so that likely helped lol

[@DMZZ_DZDM]

This is going on the "best videos ever" playlist

[@textmachine09]

"It's you. You've assigned to kill you."| My mind was blown away.

[@Loveheart909]

Same, i went *"OOOOOHHHH.!"*

[@Trialer]

It’s kinda like suicide

[@eseanesean7514]

Yep

[@bryansuarez1931]

The way he says it just makes it so much more dramatic

[@unknownlimitz_5528]

X-files theme plays

[@vamppanic]

imagine the pure terror of playing a horror game in 2nd person like this

[@devanduraipragash6106]

I would die

[@Seankamrath]

2nd person shooter game

[@gerardonavarro3400]

Resident evil

[@ShinXephon]

"No one lives under the lighthouse" has segments like that

[@TheDJ904]

The part in Obscure The Aftermath (2nd game of that franchise) where you have mei guide her sister (You're controlling said sister) in a basement as Mei watches from the security cams ( so it's kinda like The fixed angles of resident evil games on the Playstation 1 and Gamecube. I think that's a good 2nd player segment of a game from the Playstation 2 Era haha

[@Phurzt]

On the Ps2 there is a game called RAD: Robot Alchemical Drive. This game is partially 2nd person. Where you play as a dude in a city who has a mecha who fights other mecha. The gimmick is as you run around as the character, when you switch to controlling your mech via remote control, the viewpoint is still on your character as you control the mech (in 2md person). Would be interesting if you checked it out.

[@sgtkabukiman9411]

"Stay close and don't be obvious". Immediately gets into a car chase.