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@mrgreen93883 жыл бұрын
Loving this type of content 👍be interesting to see a race between Joe in the X5 and Chris and Al two up on BMW S1000 🏍
@slimced76453 жыл бұрын
Is the car winning game worldwide??
@dr_tate3 жыл бұрын
If Chris took the dead guy out of the back,I think the race would have been closer..
@I.B13 жыл бұрын
Because of this review, I'm very much considering buying a used X5 M 2017-2018 40-60k km, but I'm worried about the ride comfort. Can you ask your friend which tires he is using and how actually comfortable it is, maybe comparing to non M X5 with DDC or similar? Thank you very much for your reply.
I think it looks dated. Especially the interior controls looks like something from 15 years ago.
@flygang17972 жыл бұрын
@@Gichie79 bro what haha
@Gichie792 жыл бұрын
@@flygang1797 the F85 X5M has a dated interior. I had one bro. Got the F95 X5MC it’s way better in pretty much every way.
@xhevxhetrama42892 жыл бұрын
@@Gichie79 bro what you smoking?? that shit must also be expensive
@rkkroger Жыл бұрын
Agree F85 looks much better and sharper lines.
@douglasorr77993 жыл бұрын
Well Id have the 40k one, get it remapped, use the money saved on alcohol, recreational substances and females with questionable morals haha
@dewaynesummers81053 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@davidjoseph13 жыл бұрын
There’s literally no other option than this one
@FOVKRO3 жыл бұрын
Douglas - and the rest of the money you’d just waste?
@douglasorr77993 жыл бұрын
@@FOVKRO if Im spending 130k on a car Im not worried about waste am I
@FOVKRO3 жыл бұрын
@@douglasorr7799 you didn’t get the joke I see. See George Best most famous quotes
@markrhoden683 жыл бұрын
Joe's enthusiasm and laugh when the car pops and bangs made me laugh. Tune that older car.....tune it
@JoeAchilles13 жыл бұрын
Haha I'm still 16 at heart!
@markrhoden683 жыл бұрын
@@JoeAchilles1 aren't we all
@leekindell99373 жыл бұрын
love the sound of the older model. i had been considering the newer x5m too after my M5. Older one sounds 200% better still looks good also. Stick a map on the old car and your sorted
@executiveinvestments Жыл бұрын
lol ur delusional. A stock F95 would kill a tuned F85. Wouldnt even be close.
@Mark__A3 жыл бұрын
Now this is Tier 1 content!
@mondachewon28733 жыл бұрын
I found it quite ordinary.
@JoeAchilles13 жыл бұрын
Haha thank you!
@timothydugan25463 жыл бұрын
@@mondachewon2873 nothing wrong with ordinary :)
@DeltaDubai033 жыл бұрын
Great friendly face-off. This relatively new angle on the channel is a very good addition to an already brilliant channel. Well done Joe.
@JoeAchilles13 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy, glad you liked it!
@DeltaDubai033 жыл бұрын
@@JoeAchilles1 I don't like it, I love it!
@sfletcher833 жыл бұрын
Blocking a school entrance near you soon 😂
@BaronVonGrumble3 жыл бұрын
mate, we gotta sling crack somewhere..
@wingcommanderdaltonwalton673 жыл бұрын
Spot on!! There’s usually one parked halfway across my drive way.
@josephpena95283 жыл бұрын
I bought the 2016 X5M right around the time this video came out and I think the same as you. yes the new one beat the old one but you would never be able to notice that little bit of difference in performance unless they were next to each other. mine launches pretty hard and if that weren't enough I could just tune it. now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all that because Im hating on the new one or because I can't afford it lol but you just get a lot more for your money with the F85. with that being said. the new one is gorgeous and one day I'll buy that one too when it 50% off lol
@executiveinvestments Жыл бұрын
ur joking right? The F95 is miles ahead of an F85. You couldnt tell unless they were next to each other? lol Not even close to being true. Its a night and day difference. The guy didnt put the F95 in full sport mode which makes a huge difference. The F85 is slow compared to the F95. Ive owned both.
@phillipchandler88623 жыл бұрын
Heads up display is the best thing ever that's come out of all the latest tech. Touchscreens controlling main functions should be banned on safety grounds. When driving we should be looking where we are going. Great to see you two having a banter.
@Blueberrycookie74 ай бұрын
Gorgeous machine. I have an M4 convertible 2025 in white with kyalami orange. The M5 is my dream car
@mgusto41453 жыл бұрын
Can you do M8 gran coupe vs m6 gran coupe? M6's are currently great value
@Michael-yz4mc3 жыл бұрын
This a shout I see a M6 up for sale for 27k the other day crazy price difference
@justin_dunn463 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, this would be a good one 👌🏾
@Gichie793 жыл бұрын
M8 Comp will destroy the M6 Comp in a race.
@rextetron3 жыл бұрын
"The official Carwow drag strip" - good stuff guys!
@jonfarah85293 жыл бұрын
I knew it looked oddly familiar
@phantom2k103 жыл бұрын
The performance of the new x5m is mind boggling.This thing will eat up majority of cars on the road as it is,but imagine a stage 2 car? can't fault the pre gen either tbh.Great vid joe
@markjohnson83523 жыл бұрын
Nice collaboration, Joe! Thank you! Get Al in front of the camera as well next time! They've both been a massive support to the biking fraternity of late. Funny doesn't come close! And they know their stuff. ❤
@PetriTLaaksonen3 жыл бұрын
I thought I'd be watching a carwow video when I quickly clicked the thumbnail but this is ever better! :)
@FilmBooth3 жыл бұрын
Get the Baron on more!! Amazing collaboration
@elliotsw83 жыл бұрын
Joe any chance you could do some sort of video between the New shape X5m and the M50d? Would be Interested to see how big the difference is in real world performance and also what are the benefits of getting the M50d 👍
@26NEWERA3 жыл бұрын
Problem is they dont sell the m50d anymore its discontinued
@elliotsw83 жыл бұрын
@@26NEWERA True, but it means you can get cracking deals on them with less than 5k miles
@80008602 жыл бұрын
@@elliotsw8 They are discontinued for a reason
@thoughtfuldog54243 жыл бұрын
Good to see New Vs Old videos...old version for me
@JoeAchilles13 жыл бұрын
Cheers for watching!
@stefanjust19123 жыл бұрын
Just LOVE this episode, Joe. Shows how much more important driving pleasure than straight line performance are !
@rajindergill18113 жыл бұрын
Finally the video comparison review I was after. Great video, has helped me in thinking about should I upgrade my F85 to F95 and the answer now is stick with my 2018 F85. There is more theatre in the car. Yes it is slower, but not by much and its more practical and enjoyable to drive. Thank you Joe Achilles. Great video.
@AGZF19832 жыл бұрын
actually the code name is f15 and go5, even for the m variants. unless their happens to be a mis read on the code naming
@80008602 жыл бұрын
@@AGZF1983 F85 is an M-version of F15. And F95 is M-version for G05.
@pieter-basschlaghecke44362 жыл бұрын
@@8000860 you know it 😉
@pieter-basschlaghecke44362 жыл бұрын
@@AGZF1983 nope its f85 for the m model aa everyone else said
@executiveinvestments Жыл бұрын
dont let this bias video fool you. The F95 is way faster than the F85. The F95 was not in full sport mode which makes a huge difference. The F95 is a so much better truck its not even close.
@icetvent66243 жыл бұрын
I really want that New BMW X5M competition
@Stretch13863 жыл бұрын
Should do an M5C vs. X5MC - I’d be interested in seeing the performance you lose buying an SUV, which in my eyes is utter madness, but each to their own!
@JoeAchilles13 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@VanguardX3 жыл бұрын
The m5c hits 60 in 2.9 while the x5mc hits it in 3.5. Done :)
@skidhvh2 жыл бұрын
How is that madness if SUV is a lot heavier?
@ShauninaV Жыл бұрын
Yeah you missing out sedans can get dropped
@Kelveron3 жыл бұрын
People keep saying modern BMWs don't sound good, and I get that the sound is enhanced inside the car, but these two sounded great, to my ears at least!
@simond37513 жыл бұрын
X5M Comp is sublime. I recently traded my 4 month old RS6 Vorsprung for a Marina Bay Blue X5M Comp with Ultimate pack. No comparison between the Audi & the BMW. Just adore the X5MC.
@edward921283 жыл бұрын
He’s clearly very protective over his car which is understandable I guess
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan Жыл бұрын
To me, I've always been a fan of the F15 BMW X5, and most certainly the F85 X5 M. I think it has aged very well, both inside and out. It still looks very modern, and it proves that you don't need the most technological cabin to have a great interior. I think the interior and exterior are modern enough to where it'll age very well. I also think it looks a lot better than the current one tbh. But one thing you can't deny is the power of both with that lethal 4.4L twin turbo V8 engine.
@drew93123 жыл бұрын
2016 & 90K every day. Great content.
@colinmorand1293 жыл бұрын
Simple remap and would be right there
@Gichie793 жыл бұрын
Well remap the G05 X5M comp and you can get it up to 800-850 hp on that alone. The F85 one taps out at around 700 hp on a remap alone.
@aneebaba063 жыл бұрын
That was fun guys. I think I would go with the older one. Though I do love the look of the current model a bit better I think.
@stevehertfordshire18793 жыл бұрын
I took my Evolve mapped F85 X5M to the Nurburgring a few years back. Was hilarious fun. 👍
@garyhutson63613 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Chris should get a stage1 . Then see 👀.
@mosalephondo95213 жыл бұрын
Bimmer gang 😤😤🏌️♂️🚀
@pinkpotato13 жыл бұрын
Been waiting fo this for so long! Great vid
@ritvikpatil47033 жыл бұрын
Joe your content is really informative. You've got that vibe mate🤞🏼
@robhush88363 жыл бұрын
Fantastic content from my two favourite channels. Looking forward to the next 1.
@johnm65873 жыл бұрын
Loved this Joe!! Well done. I have a f85 and always wondered how much is in it couldn't believe my luck when this popped up. Thankyou!!!
@christianfloehr3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Entertainment! One question: Did you drive the new X5 M50i? Should be more comfortable but same power than the „old“ X5M? Thanks!
@iceninja463 жыл бұрын
Get the Baron to bring out one of his other BMW's...
@FilmBooth3 жыл бұрын
🤣 that is a genius idea!
@JoeAchilles13 жыл бұрын
Haha that will def happen soon!
@tim1king3 жыл бұрын
Great video guys, love this.... That sound from the exhaust 😍
@BobsGT2353 жыл бұрын
On a drive-by, the new X5M just sounds so much angrier/meaner than the old X5M. Good comparison. Though Joe, you were a bit asleep off the line a few times, but it didn't really matter since the new X5M has a lot more power. Sounds like Joe was also being nice to his friend by not saying anything bad about his F85.
@pieter-basschlaghecke44362 жыл бұрын
I dont get what u mean with meaner the sound of the f85 is way better than the f95
@BobsGT235 Жыл бұрын
@@pieter-basschlaghecke4436 The F95 has a deeper throatier sound than the F85.
@emekamgbaja3238 Жыл бұрын
The older one has more character....goodness that exhaust sound...!
@jayasea40273 жыл бұрын
My fav car channel mixed with my fav bike channel......this is a golden link up.😎
@dennyc41353 жыл бұрын
Big difference with 50HP.. but for 90k less I'll take the older one :)
@Gichie793 жыл бұрын
Both engines are underrated by BMW. The 2016 F85 X5M is around 600 hp and the 2021 G05 X5M Comp is around 700 hp, so about a 100 plus hp difference.
@GaryDownes2 жыл бұрын
1 ecu tune (£1000) in that f85 and it will be quicker than the X5m competition
@themorganator3 жыл бұрын
44T bought me here. Was not disappointed!
@JoeAchilles13 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear, glad you like my stuff 👌👊
@irishphil94803 жыл бұрын
Having had an X5M the same as Chris’s but a 2017 model, and now in an X3M Comp I can tell you those pops and bangs in that X5M he has entertained me every day. On the way home from work I had one piece of road I loved every day. An amazing car snd I regret selling it. Though you need a test between the X3M Comp and the new X5M Comp, the X3M is faster for sure than both my old F10 M5 and the old X5M.
@Levente203 жыл бұрын
oh oh , Joe is goin for some carwow drag videos and thats awesome :D:D
@beckygair22723 жыл бұрын
Good ole Upper Heyford airfield Used to work there when I was in Security in the 90’s
@74johnwalker3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Turweston Aerodrome to me and driving up and down Welsh lane
@BaronVonGrumble3 жыл бұрын
well you cant have paying much attention at work if you think that's Upper Hayford 😂... its Turweston 👍
@beckygair22723 жыл бұрын
It just looked like Upper Heyford that's all
@beckygair22723 жыл бұрын
Everyone can make mistakes
@alphamilky-way8793 жыл бұрын
Joe's latest content is amazing, i enjoyed the m440 vs m4, now this x5M battle.... thank you mate
@TeaSphere3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, Loved this video. I am in the same position. I have a g11 -760- 18 plate and looking for an x5. No idea what to go for: 50d, x5m . Is there a huge difference between 2016-18 x8 models? Also a 40d would do if nicely specced and properly tuned up. I ruled out g05 models for now. Your input will be appreciated . Thanks a lot .
@colla5553 жыл бұрын
Imo the older X5M is so much more beautiful!
@ruley743 жыл бұрын
Awesome guys, I've just traded my 14 M4 in for a 16 X5M as I need the height and size also... looking forward to it!!
@Mtbjitsu3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the old one with an akrapovic system and a remap
@razzy5303 жыл бұрын
I love the way those mudguards make the older x5m look
@thabomosidi91743 жыл бұрын
It looks way too beautiful ❤️❤️❤️
@wolfgangezeh22213 жыл бұрын
God, the sound from the back pipes! Shiver me timbres!
@youu142 Жыл бұрын
great reviews,both guys have objective angles on two models.
@BobsGT2352 жыл бұрын
You can thank your countries noise law for the quieter exhaust on the new X5M. It wasn't in place a few years ago. Plus the old X5M exhaust is no doubt worn out a bit. Also Joe, since you're older, you were a bit slow on applying the brakes for the braking test. But it was a great video and there is nothing wrong with the older F85. You do realize that the F85 has piped in intake and exhaust noise also. Many F85 reviews said that even with the rear air suspension, the vehicle rides to firm.
@bmwx51303 жыл бұрын
X5 is truly an amazing car. X5 ♥️
@ToroLaszlo3 жыл бұрын
44Teeth is the best bike channel atm
@faisalleeds3 жыл бұрын
Love this video format Joe. Really good comparison. You should do modded 240i Vs M2 comp next
@k.c.68463 жыл бұрын
The X5M and X5M comp have the same exact size wheels, exhaust etc. Difference is a competition mode which gives 17hp more due to a timing tune when in that mode. Oh, and 9k more to have the comp package. I passed and have the X5M and it moves quickly, very quickly.
@executiveinvestments Жыл бұрын
wrong, wrong wrong. The comp has 21's up front and 22's in the rear. All high gloss black elements, black chrome tailpipes, M sport seats, Merino leather and seat belts with M stripes. You just couldnt afford the comp package, I understand.
@stephenmurchison26813 жыл бұрын
It’s CarWow but with a much cooler host :-) Good on ya, Joe!
@greggdavies58273 жыл бұрын
great video! I bought one of the last X5M (2018), new, with massive discount and 0%... BMW kill their own residuals. I have an M5 comp on the way in June. £38k discount and 2.9%. no new BMW is worth anywhere near the list price!! crazy... 🤔
@ianmowbray32843 жыл бұрын
I have a 530d 3 years old paid 22 k it has 18k miles 50k new price. Drives like new.
@greggdavies58273 жыл бұрын
@@pauljames3514 sytner. They lost money on mine. Luck of timing as they secured their target bonus by doing my car apparently. Same happened in 2018... waited until March to order and found a dealer needing an order. 28k discount that time plus paint protection ! 👍
@NVMotorsportUK3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison definitely bargain F series there... personally id have a X3 35d with some tuning👀
@jost47863 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison!
@MrCharliebaja13 жыл бұрын
great video guys, its better having the two cars to compare with two different people. I would chose the older version also as I drive a 50D, admittedly I love the noise of the older one as it sounds like it should.
@hsmedsvik3 жыл бұрын
If there was a whole new engine or a revolutionary new design I would maybe get it, but there isn’t, so you are basically getting a similar car and engine at 1/3 or even 1/4 of the price. It’s one of the best USED performance SUV’s available considering it’s performance and value for money. It’s also a bit of a wolf in sheep’s clothing considering it does 0-60 in the same time as a same model year M3/M4 due to the x-drive vs RWD. I’ve had the exact same opinion comparing to the new X5M and this video just convinced me to keep mine and rather extend the warranty and tune the engine up, all at a fraction of the new price. Thanks guys.
@siraff44613 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I wonder what the results would be if they were both mapped. Same hardware but the older one is lighter which may have played a part in the brake test.
@Bruv-9 ай бұрын
You can visually see the difference in ride comfort between the two vehicles
@Robwilli3 жыл бұрын
In all honesty, I prefer the looks of the F85 more than the G05. Not saying i don't like nor that I wouldn't get a G05 X5M, because I do. But ultimately I do like more the F85 in all aspects. Which also brings me to another point, that I rather increase the power on the F85 with a tune to be on par or better than the G05 comp.
@executiveinvestments Жыл бұрын
lol NO tune will bring you on par with the F95. Stock F95's are well over 700hp.
@jakepocock16163 жыл бұрын
I had an M50d for a few weeks and it felt enormous. One hell of a car, but too big imo.
@oneaburns3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I want to like the X5 but it feels my X3M40i feels like a much nicer size.
@JoeAchilles13 жыл бұрын
Yeah they just keep getting bigger and bigger!
@jooana46173 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? It’s not even longer than a 5 Series! The £40k one in this video is simply gorgeous. And for us, the mere mortals, M50d remains the best choice. It’s economic on fuel and fast. Really fast!
@jakepocock16163 жыл бұрын
@@jooana4617 the 5 series.. a car that itself is massive? The 50d is great but not that economical. For me, the 45e is the one to go for
@jeffreyatwine3 жыл бұрын
I love the comment on the negative of negative camber. Is that a solution for tramlining though? I’ve noticed a lot of tramling with the x5 compared to other SUVs. could it be the tyre size?
@jameskingston3 жыл бұрын
I f*ckin love you guys
@RussorMallika11 ай бұрын
my current dream car is a 2018 BMW X5M Comp, there's just something about the "wagon" style look that the new X5 no longer has. It's also sooooooo much cheaper and literally just as fast and powerful. The 2018 X5M might be the best X5 out there.
@Rhythm_Academy2 жыл бұрын
How you are dinding the sports seats of G05 vs comfort?
@edventures988415 күн бұрын
Man never thought I’d want an suv but been into the cayenne gts and x5 m’s lately. I mean I’ve always liked them and thought they were cool but never thought I’d consider one for purchase
@The_Truth7772 жыл бұрын
Old M5 needs to be a Competition for more accuracy. I enjoyed the vid nonetheless! Thank you gents.
@dleebox22683 жыл бұрын
YEA! Thanks for rocking those NBs, made over here😎
@adzoz48913 жыл бұрын
Defo the 65 plate then remap it and air intake give it a extra bit of help
@P_Dbln3 жыл бұрын
Top video again Joe. 👌 I thought that gen is a DCT gearbox?
@blakkzl13 ай бұрын
@newhandle_ yep
@jackfrost86003 жыл бұрын
Im reading comments of old one sounding better n all but anyone remember the first generation 2004 E53 X5 4.8 now that had a deep sounding exhaust straight beast 👍🏻👍🏻
@engthengdy15 ай бұрын
I still have my 2005 BMW X5 4.8is. Love the exhaust start up sound. I was the 2nd owner when I bought it in 2012 with 55K mileage. I still have it with 216k mileage on it. I need to do a transmission fluid, filter, and solenoid change on it so it can run smooth again. I just bought the 2017 X5M at 59k mileage a couple weeks ago. Love it. I paid $38000 for my 2017 BMW X5M. $130k for the newest BMW X5M competition. If you going to race your X5M then spend that extra $90 if you got the money. Not me, the $38K for my F85 is quick and very fast enough for me to enjoy.
@jamest5149 Жыл бұрын
Joe you need to do more with the 44th guys…hopefully we will get either a follow up of the bike ride video you did with Chris or come over to Southern Spain earlier 👍
@itsm3th3b333 жыл бұрын
What model year are we comparing? Not mentioned anywhere.
@suhailjamil39093 жыл бұрын
I prefer the new one hands down. One of the best looking genuine SUV in the world (I say genuine not the coupe-SUV types)
@robinoleary15923 жыл бұрын
Loved this! And genuinely a good review. My wife and I have discussed this very topic. The new one definitely has a classier cabin, but £90k difference! Great video, thanks Joe
@vindevhunta49053 жыл бұрын
Beautiful cars...cant really go wrong with a x5...----4.4V8 💥💥💥💥💥💥
@lancegordon52092 жыл бұрын
Soooo what’s the difference? Are they different years?
@fun3643 жыл бұрын
Awesome review mate! Looking forward to you doing this with your G80 versus a F80.
@scottrocco841211 күн бұрын
What does he do to fet the extra noise? Did he push a button or something?
New X5M is a game changer. Luxurious, quick, dynamic. Perfect package as a high performance SUV
@jonfarah85293 жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect this crossover
@COYS723 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the older X5M, big variance on the wallet, regardless, 🤔 great content..👍🔥
@jlsmaha Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure the newer model has a boat load more safety tech that was omitted.
@sammooresphoto3 жыл бұрын
No idea why I tuned in but loved it, good banter between the two of you. Great stuff.
@longboarder9493 жыл бұрын
I needed more space than what I had in my 2020 M8. Was going to trade for a new X5M but with this video it made me also look at the F85 X5M. I liked the F85 better and found a nice 20k mile CPO in Silverstone. Cheers.
@MrQuashu3 жыл бұрын
Great video, great idea to make such compare. Waiting for more.
@andreicosma28513 жыл бұрын
If the "bloody double decker" is involved, I'm subscribing 😆
@E70dino Жыл бұрын
F85 x5m drives so damn fast hopefully next year I’ll get one
@adrianbennett37612 ай бұрын
£90,000 difference!!! Performance difference is what you’d expect for an extra 50 bhp. The only certainty is that the new one will shed value at an alarming rate
@shaunescarlett.1 Жыл бұрын
Great video Lads 👌🏼 I currently own a 65 plate F15 X5 40d Xdrive, remapped also & i enjoy its drive & overall performance but my next car will be a F15 X5M. A lot of car for the money 👍🏼