DRAG RACE. BMW M2 CS vs Porsche Cayman GT4 981

[@muhammadosama127]

That Porsche Cayman GT4 in black is life goals 😍 Thank you Lovecars for giving us this amazing video. Keep up the great work. 👌

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@EnglishSpitfire]

GT4s feel like your sat on the floor, with your eyes just peeping above the window line and the seats are really uncomfortable and unadjustable, some people may like that but I hate it. If you want one of these, get yourself a 981 6 cylinder Boxster S or GTS instead (much better than the later 718) and with PDK/launch control much faster than these two cars above as it will hit 60 in 4.1 secs and 1/4 mile in 12.7. You'll also have the wind in your hair whenever you want. PDK is lightning fast and wonderful, and it's just as much fun to whip through the gears using paddles on the steering wheel as it is in a manual if you want to interact yourself. Remember these cars were built ground up as an open top.... the Cayman just added a roof to the existing Boxster (it's a Boxster with a roof) and therefore there is absolutely no difference in handling, unlike cars which were designed with a roof and then had it cut off to make the soft top.

[@dungeon5028]

The Intro has such a positive vibe

[@lovecarsTV]

That's kind of you to say thank you!

[@shravanav993]

That's really true

[@lovecarsTV]

Shravan Sudhir thank you too!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Great race! I remember racing the 981 GT4 against Marc's original M2 DCT back in 2016 in Italy, the M2 destroyed it every-time.

[@lovecarsTV]

Cheers Joe! We know you're a big cheese these days but hopefully you'll come on one of our videos one day 😊

[@JoeAchilles1]

@@lovecarsTV Haha thanks guys, think I'm more cheese than big cheese ;-) Hopefully one day soon x

[@ApothecaryTerry]

Oooh Mat would be sad to see someone stealing Joe- it'll be Yanni next! Joe vs Tiff would be good though (sorry Paul ☺)

[@lovecarsTV]

Apothecary Terry we don’t have much chance with Joe... and Mat and Yanni are even bigger cheeses than him... so we have no chance with them!!

[@lovecarsTV]

Mr.BigBoss7 we’re just playing as Joe is a good friend. We’re very happy with the options of guests we have through Tiff and the channel.

[@fayezakil]

Didn't expect that result and still waiting for the McLaren 765 vs turbo s 😈💪

[@lovecarsTV]

Us too!!!

[@woodstreet8214]

Not gonna be a „fair“ race anyhow... 115Hp more, MUCH MORE expensive and NO everyday usability at all

[@pantherdxn4835]

@@woodstreet8214 the 911 still gonna win

[@Kelveron]

@@woodstreet8214 The standard 720S is already 150hp more than the Turbo S (check the dyno tests online, 720S is around 800hp and not the official 710hp)). So, the 765 will have in all probability be around 200hp more and 200kg lighter too. Still, I reckon the Turbo S will give it a run for its money.

[@fallback8314]

lol turbo s will eat that mcclaren alive. in fact i think i've seen the 765 go and it was slow af i seen it SOMEWHERE just can't remember where but it was slower than the 720

[@Kelveron]

These are the kind of drag races that make Love cars such a great channel. Good job and Tiff and Paul. Now, can I get a free T-shirt?

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you!! And great idea. We will do a T-Shirt giveaway! Not sure how or when but stay tuned!!

[@elazotacunaos4752]

981 GT4 and M2 CS, what a combo to have in a garage 🤩

[@lovecarsTV]

Agree!!

[@AAMSFR]

The New GT4 RS is going to be a beast when it comes out 🔥

[@lovecarsTV]

No question!

[@harshtomar3874]

Seeing tiff after a long time,loved the review.

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you!

[@haidersohail1649]

Loving this series Noodles & Paul. Wonder if there will be another drag racing series or hoping for more on road comparisons and track content. Almost at 200k subscribers guys. You guys thoroughly deserve more. Beautiful filming and editing.

[@lovecarsTV]

That's very kind of you to say! Wednesday's are drag races, Sundays are features. Lots of good stuff to come and a pleasure to have you along for the ride!

[@LegendInThaMakin]

As a long time bmw owner... I’m taking the gt4 without a second thought. I don’t care that the m2 is faster, the gt4 is more beautiful as well as a better drivers car and sounds a lot better too. The driving experience is what means the most to me.

[@lovecarsTV]

They are amazing to drive!

[@jdsk8914]

Felt like I was in the 90s watching this. Amazing!!

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you!!

[@MegaRetr]

These are the kind of drag races that make Love cars such a great channel.

[@firstnamelastname-zo5gd]

4:25 race

[@lovecarsTV]

We are stupid. We should have saved all that time and just showed 12 seconds of the race. Will speak to the team and look at launching a new 12 second drag race series 👍

[@firstnamelastname-zo5gd]

@@lovecarsTV i wasnt bashing haha..i still watched the whole thing but i just like to throw a time stamp bc sometimes ill rewatch a video and when i do i just find my comment and hit time stamp

[@lovecarsTV]

ad am 😉 we don’t mind. And do the same on other channels 😛

[@AxelBitz]

Short, concise and to the point videos. Lovely!

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you for the nice words!

[@harpersneil]

I'd watch anything with Tiif in it - great driver, funny, just the right amount of immodest - he's perfect. I've not watched a lot of content with Mr Woodman in it, but he's great and seems to complement Tiff perfectly.

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you for the very kind words. Much appreciated!

[@GeeGee2264]

Well done @lovecars 👍 a proper apples to apples showdown with 2 manual gearboxes. Awesome stuff

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you for the kind words!!

[@lotusesprit38]

Great to see Tiff, thanks for the review.

[@lovecarsTV]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the nice words!

[@86Hasse]

"Obviously I'm a quicker driver", hahah! Tiff, you absolute madlad!😂

[@lovecarsTV]

But he ate those words ;)

[@dayalanvelan3070]

Awesome and fun drag race. Both presenters are fantastic and so natural. Keep up the awesome videos. Tiff for me is the greatest ever bar none. Glad to see him still behind the wheel. God Bless from South Africa.

[@lovecarsTV]

Greetings from the UK to RSA!

[@mrjmr5985]

Might have been a different result if the GT4 was on Michelin sport cup 2s rather than the pzeros

[@lovecarsTV]

We will keep that in mind for next time 😁👌

[@هولوکاستدروغین]

❤️lovecars drag race ❤️🏆 Tiff Needell 🙏🙏🙏

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you!!

[@jeffpierce3436]

Tiff, you need to promise all of us that you will never be too old to drive!! The auto world won’t be the same without you 🤞

[@lovecarsTV]

We hope so too! Thanks for the lovely words!

[@MrVara411]

That M2 CS is drop-dead GORGEOUS black with gold wheels. Wow.

[@crxtodd16]

Oh dang! That was a good race!! Well done, gentlemen.

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you very much!

[@dagee4772]

Quality video. I love the Beamer and had a few. However there is nothing quite like a Porsche. No matter what it defies logic And is always there up with the best quality, gearboxes, handling and speed. This channel is turning out to be one of the best on KZbin. Old tiff has still got it and it’s a good balance between the two. Congrats and keep it up!

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you very much for the kind and sensible words! (They’re quite rare on KZbin!)

[@diceyyytv]

Tiff’s start was so aggressive and cool, same goes for the cinematic used in the video, ITS SO AMAZING 🤩‼️

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you!! 👍

[@iuri122]

Seeing you change gears like this gives me a heart attack

[@rajsekharvavilla5467]

❤️❤️💓 These manually driven cars specially M2cs

[@lovecarsTV]

❤️ 👍

[@Noobmaster-bj9xl]

Luv the M2 CS💙

[@lovecarsTV]

Same! Did you see our full review?

[@mlhj83]

The 981 GT4 is not on the OEM tyres. The GT4 was never homologated with P-Zero tyres, and the P-Zeros on this GT4 is also an older model. Was the owner running the GT4 on a tight budget?

[@lovecarsTV]

The owner sleeps in his car and only eats bread and water. That's how tight things are ;)

[@yetidh9]

I noticed that. It would have launched better wearing Cup 2s. Surprised the M2 didn't completely obliterate it to be honest.

[@savageZ4]

Tiff, you are a Legend and still my fav car show presenter ever.

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you for the kind words Dylan!

[@leonlamperouge9307]

Such an underrated channel

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you for the nice words!!!

[@aaronhuie7013]

I'm dying to see Tiff drive the GT4 RS... Hopefully he gets his hands on it some day soon.

[@lovecarsTV]

Here we go guys... M2 CS or Cayman GT4? 👇

[@marcthesharc991]

Would still take the 981 Cayman GT4 even over the new 718. Better sound and I like the looks more:)

[@lovecarsTV]

Hi Marc. You're not the first to say that (well, actually in these comments you are the first to say that!!!)

[@Kelveron]

Love both, but might just go for the CS for the extra practicality. But definitely wouldn't say no to the GT4 either.

[@arjun._.bbC6]

Oh it feels good to listen to Tiff again!

[@lovecarsTV]

😁👌

[@just.for.the.downshifts]

Very seldom do you see an equal reaction time. Well done boys.

[@lovecarsTV]

Thanks Mark - it was one race and one take - just both competitive I guess!

[@Kortec_Racing]

i would take the cayman, but the m2 is really nice too

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you!!

[@davis7323]

Of course cayman costs more and more prestigious

[@Fizzbomb123]

Having owned a green 981 GT4, nothing compares!

[@lovecarsTV]

Great colour!!

[@هولوکاستدروغین]

❤️❤️❤️M2 CS ❤️❤️❤️

[@lovecarsTV]

❤️❤️

[@romaan843]

Not disappointed In subscribing to this chanell love old school drag races👍🏻

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you! Plenty of good stuff to come

[@porscheguy09]

Definitely need to do this race again once they get their hands on a new 4.0 liter GT4.

[@tvonfelsen]

The 718 GT4 was actually a tad slower in German Sport Auto’s test all the way til 0-200 km/h acceleration times. No wonder, the 718 GT4 is 70 kg heavier than the 981 GT4. Plus, at dyno tests, the new one seem to struggle to match the claimed 420 hp (ps) - even 400 hp is a swetty job for it.

[@lovecarsTV]

Yes we hope so!

[@leokal457]

Really enjoyed the Video! But i keep thinking it is kind of a missed opportunity. I think those two cars represent somewhat the pinnacle in handling from BMW and Porsche and it would be very interesting how they compare in that regard

[@lovecarsTV]

Yup completely get it. Did you see our M2 CS feature? That's pretty cool. And as with a most of the drag races we do on here, lots are privately owned cars who aren't too keen on us taking around a track!

[@leokal457]

Lovecars yes i did see it and i liked it very much. I can understand that! I just wanted to get this feeling across not accuse you or anything. Keep up the good work!

[@SuryaDe]

Now I'm curious to see new gt4 with pdk and m2 can with dsg!

[@lovecarsTV]

😏👍

[@kurtissliwka4341]

Awesome video, love what you guys bring to the table

[@lovecarsTV]

Glad you enjoy it! Thank you!

[@pcarobsessed9778]

Better drivers than carwow. Respect.

[@lovecarsTV]

Hi Jun. Tiff is an ex Formula 1 and Le Mans driver. Paul can hold his own too! :)

[@restaurantelavista6014]

Guys love the vids but please do best out of 3 or something. Or even warm up the tyres before. It would also be nice to see a rolling race. Let’s say from 60/70mph like they would do on a autobahn. This would make it fairer and more real world and people would love this. Great race though!

[@lovecarsTV]

Thanks for the message and feedback. We are on a tiny budget. We do short and sharp videos so we can fit more in and provide more variety. Making videos doesn't pay as it is, but if we focus half a day on rolling starts, best of 3 and so on, we would be packing up shop! Hope you understand. Once we get to a decent level we can really start doing some exciting addons

[@powerswearingfluids]

Brilliant. Glad to see Tiff where he belongs.

[@MH-hs7ie]

The gear changing with the gear stick was smooth af!

[@lovecarsTV]

Thanks!!

[@MrRoger1337]

Could you please tell us on which tyres are both cars?

[@lovecarsTV]

Not sure for either, sorry!

[@joaoluistavares6046]

A lot of spinning. This was the right spinning. Top professional start combined with the sound of a flat-six screaming "Com' on, let's do this". That's why it's always better to have traction and all the tech off. Then we see always these great races.

[@lovecarsTV]

Gracias Amigo!!!

[@joaoluistavares6046]

@@lovecarsTV De nada.

[@ChrisClifton]

Did I miss something or did they not show the actual 1/4mile times? Must have been mid to high 11s judging by the grip issues

[@lovecarsTV]

Chris, honest answer is we didn't do them as it would have been cheating the viewer. We did it on a track that is just short of the official ¼ mile so we chose to leave it off completely

[@ChrisClifton]

@@lovecarsTV thanks for the fast and honest answer. Great seeing the different cars and it really shows how much manual shifts impact these cars. Keep up the excellent work!

[@lovecarsTV]

Chris Clifton thank you very much Chris!

[@apmarques42]

Great race. Why didn't you add both time results?

[@lovecarsTV]

It was just less than ¼ mile and wanted to be honest with you guys 👍

[@Beehivefisherman]

Would love to see the m2 vs the 718 Gt4 great video btw!

[@lovecarsTV]

Thanks Jimmy. We hope to get that one day soon!

[@ripptorr]

In the intro Paul appears to drive at some point the F40. Where is that video? Thx!

[@secretivescorpio891]

Tiff drove the F40 in a drag race against the 488 Pista. Why don't you subscribe if you haven't already ?

[@lovecarsTV]

Hi, that video is coming soon McLaren P1 vs the F40!

[@lovecarsTV]

Thanks guys!

[@ripptorr]

@@lovecarsTV wow I hope soon is soon enough 😁

[@lovecarsTV]

Raz Raz good news is it’s edited and ready to go... the bad news is we may save it for our Christmas special it’s that good!!! 🤗🤗🤗

[@H.CROWN777]

Classic race , man those manuals/stick shift . All about timing the revs etc .

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed!!

[@OscarLeeMX]

Those were surprisingly good launches.

[@lovecarsTV]

Thanks Oscar!

[@JBOsurf]

One of these cars is a 2 door based off a hatchback. The other is a proper mid-engined sports car. Very happy with the latter!

[@lovecarsTV]

Nice choice!

[@secretivescorpio891]

Lovecars M2 CS Vs Cayman GT4 Clicked at lightspeed 😍

[@lovecarsTV]

Did you call the winner?

[@secretivescorpio891]

@@lovecarsTV I'm a BMW fan, not saying I don't like Porsche. Tbh I got it wrong . . . Lovecars T shirts, how do I get one?

[@secretivescorpio891]

@@lovecarsTV don't worry, I have just seen the link in the description

[@lovecarsTV]

secretive Scorpio ctrlandshift.com/collections/lovecars If you get one we need pictures!!! Tag on @lovecars insta or Twitter 😍😍😍

[@sumrandumguy7177]

Using manuals for these drag races means that driver error is too great of a factor. Using only automatics would give much more accurate and consistent results

[@mannyj5862]

Fantastic race!

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you Manny!

[@shravanav993]

If the Cayman were optioned with the pdk, the results would be somewhat different

[@marcthesharc991]

There was never a pdk option for the 981 cayman gt4. Or was there?

[@ApothecaryTerry]

Nah GT4 is manual- they're adding PDK to the new GT4 literally this month as a new option. M2 can also have a DCT though so it's fairly irrelevant. Cayman is a much nicer car though, I just bought a 981 S and the M2 didn't even make my top 10 list.

[@marcthesharc991]

@@ApothecaryTerry yeah I know about them adding the pdk but I wasn't sure if I missed something about the last gen ^^

[@secretivescorpio891]

This is a silly comment, come on fella

[@shravanav993]

@@ApothecaryTerry Congratulations on your purchase man.

[@jguo]

Finally a drag race worth watching. Good drivers in manual cars.

[@lovecarsTV]

Cheers Jason!

[@mthorn572]

Is that Chris Harris' M2...? The plate looks rather familiar!

[@lovecarsTV]

Hi Mike, he has the same spec but this is a different car 😁👌

[@mthorn572]

Aha yes you are right, thanks! Both bloody stunning... and it featured very highly in Henry Catchpole and Evo crew's opinions on their epic COTY shoot!

[@NoName-qp1op]

Wow! The 981 is such an animal.

[@lovecarsTV]

Agree! Looks fantastic too

[@MrJdp1968]

Shame it wasn’t the latest Cayman GT4 😬

[@lovecarsTV]

Hi Julian - hopefully next time!

[@MrJdp1968]

Lovecars look forward to it 👍🏻

[@audirs142]

Can you drag Race S4 Vs Rs4? Or an S4 B9 vs something similar . You can use mine

[@lovecarsTV]

We did RS4 vs the M2 CS... coming soon! And thanks for the offer. Sounds great

[@audirs142]

Lovecars If you guys have an Email we can arrange something ?

[@lovecarsTV]

Audi RS [e-mail] 👍👍

[@marcnobel3938]

Depending on the start the race could have gone this or that way. The "old" GT4 was a really good match. - Great Lovecars Video!

[@lovecarsTV]

Thanks for the kind words Marc!

[@marcnobel3938]

@@lovecarsTV Thank you for the good content - which comes for free into my house on top. I remember to have paid a lot of money for TV Subscriptions which had content that was not even close to that in terms of quality and entertainment. So I can really appreciate that.

[@lovecarsTV]

Marc Nobel brilliant! Never looked at it that way! Thanks again

[@gamerclips1882]

Pretty sure the m2cs is 0-60 in 3.9 the m2c is 4.2

[@muratk.8296]

The GT4 is using less sticky tyres than regular fitments. Normally semi-slick of Michelin Cup 2s or Dunlop Race Maxx‘s. Here it is regular Pirelli Pzeros - not really a good choice for dry grip - too much wheel spin. Normally it has almost none.

[@judahthegamechanger1359]

Insane I Like this m2 cs Is cool

[@SuperSportMTL]

Both very respectable cars !

[@lovecarsTV]

Agree!

[@wheelwrightpl9429]

It is very easy to shift too fast when pushing those cars to their limit. This puts a lot of strain on the drivetrain, and I know from personal experience ($$$) that at least BMW is not robust in that area. Maybe they count on ripping-off customers who inevitably overstress their weak parts and end-up paying for it, I don't know. So if something goes wrong, which is likely, budget around 5-10 thousands of pounds for gearbox and/or clutch/flywheel replacement, in case manufacturer denies warranty claiming you were abusing their car. In my case it started with a simple grind when shifting to second, and I ended up with 2 gearboxes replaced, and a clutch/dual-mass flywheel replaced. And I am an experienced and careful manual transmission driver, and wasn't ever racing or abusing the car.

[@taipoxin]

1/4 mile times?

[@lovecarsTV]

Was less that ¼ mile on this track so we didn't want to fudge them

[@giovannigallo8429]

That M2 CS is a bit of a porker 😉 great video 👍🏻

[@lovecarsTV]

Hi Gio. We have a date for your diary... finally.... 12th Nov @ 20:00pm ;)

[@giovannigallo8429]

Lovecars ohh, exciting...on KZbin?

[@lovecarsTV]

Giovanni Gallo 📺

[@giovannigallo8429]

Lovecars awesome!

[@aitorgallego98]

Subscribed after watching the intro

[@matta6806]

So refreshing to see two manual cars going at it with abit of driver involvement and skill needed rather than the usual launch control (yawn) awesome drag guys! And a gen 2 gt4 would have the bmw licked 😋

[@lovecarsTV]

Absolutely!

[@tanner1ie]

Please make these best two out of three, i feel like Tiff could have won if his shift to second was better :D ( and maybe do rolling races like Carwow etc, but mostly, please do more than one run, particularly in close races :) ).

[@lovecarsTV]

We have a tiny budget so we're doing as many as we can in the time we have on the track / runway, trying to bring loads of variety to the viewers

[@tanner1ie]

@@lovecarsTV Fair enough - keep doing what ye think is best so :) ... (just saying what i'd like to see :) .)

[@lovecarsTV]

tanner1ie we would love to do it. Maybe when we get a few more views!! Thanks for the feedback and for watching. Much appreciated 👏👏

[@bob5B]

That M2 CS is a hell !!

[@redphrynge]

both cars win because they're both manual

[@lovecarsTV]

Good call!

[@rickylazare8773]

Should have been a track battle as well!

[@Braselton21]

Flat 6 keeping up with a Twin Turbo 6 is very impressive 0_o

[@TheDaKKaK]

Please write Tiff's name in the title of any of his videos, this is a great channel but I only subscribed for the legend himself

[@nhlanhlamagagula7467]

Great race..very close, just wonder how the new GT will perform..

[@lovecarsTV]

Thank you. And yes would love to get that one day soon!

[@osmiumtank]

Would be interesting to know the price difference between the two cars.

[@lovecarsTV]

Good point - with the 4 year old 981? Probably £40k plus? Though new the same!

[@blademanx]

​@@lovecarsTV £65,000

[@kananelowilliams3680]

Great race but you should run 3 races or best 2 out of 3 at least

[@cocacola99]

why not compare with the 718 gt4 now?

[@lovecarsTV]

Do you have one? (we don't!)

[@mariogalicia6672]

Their both good love those cars

[@lovecarsTV]

👍🏻

[@omermaayan5439]

would like to see if the new GT4 can do any better

[@lovecarsTV]

Think so

[@PetrolheadDNA]

Carwow certainly inspired some people. Nice race.

[@trtatv]

Can we all agree that the real winner are those sweet M2 gold frost wheels?!

[@lovecarsTV]

Tiff was a big fan too!

[@thanasislondon]

Should do best of 3

[@lovecarsTV]

Our channel does best of one. One shot only

[@stefant8215]

Awesome, can we have best of 3?

[@revmedia8108]

The Mercedes is definitely winning this!😮 Your friends at Rev Media☺️

[@lovecarsTV]

Ha! Cheers guys!

[@revmedia8108]

Lovecars love y’all

[@franka1621]

Tiff’ s always good fun. As for Paul, anyone who wears a Sub can’t be all bad... 😆

[@vinnyvsx]

I love you GregularExpressions

[@lovecarsTV]

Everybody loves GregularExpressions

[@vinnyvsx]

@@lovecarsTV This is true

[@Tracertme]

great race and very interesting outcome, should have made it best of two... to be sure, and give the old guy a second chance, after all the CS probably had fresher rubber....no excuses mind you, Tiff he is going to be crowing about that win for years two similar cars both ICE with a manual box and he beat you..... great stuff guys :-) I will say this very quietly WELL DONE PAUL! :-)

[@lovecarsTV]

Ha! Thank you Alan! The only time we can beat Tiff is in a straight line!

[@Tracertme]

@@lovecarsTV keep it up Paul you are both great sports and we luv the banter between you, all honest friendly fun.... given how close this was a sequel with a lap time of each would be very interesting... then Tiff can showboat for us again.... :-)

[@bibby65]

In reality the beemers probably pushing out more like 475hp.When rolling road tested they always seen to produce more power than claimed.M4 with same engine have been tested at 480 hp.

[@lovecarsTV]

Certainly possible

[@moonfly1]

My 13 year old 5 grand 335i with 145k on the clock can almost match these, I always expect these things to be quicker.

[@lovecarsTV]

Bring it along and try it one day!

[@moonfly1]

@Mr.BigBoss7 it's done OK for the last couple years on country roads. Only broke both rear suspension mounts and had to have the bumper put back on lol. I think a full track day would probably not be the best for the old dog, but a couple drags races would be cool. I'd be curious to see how it holds up against these new 50k plus offerings.

[@moonfly1]

@@lovecarsTV that would actually be pretty cool. Seeing how little I would lose by would be the name of the game! The big problem however would be getting a good run in 1 take! No LSD, manual, and trying to avoid traction kicking in should be a laugh.

[@moonfly1]

@Mr.BigBoss7 ye I wouldn't like to put any serious track miles on my car without some prep. The engine is good and I keep it well maintained but regular track duty would probably take its toll. A few drags would be fine though I'm sure, or a a couple quick laps on a top gear style track. I should probably go do a track day, I'm sure it's good fun.

[@patrickalbani4056]

What about the quarter mile times

[@lovecarsTV]

It wasn’t a quarter of a mile.

[@RyeitOut]

Whats the Intro song?