Dragon Age: The Veilguard - Before You Buy

[@kylenyce8198]

lets make the open loot button be the same as the jump button. amazing idea!!!!

[@kylenyce8198]

i was watching you jump all over the loot chest and lol’d. such a needlessly annoying thing to have in the game. maybe they will patch it out somehow.

[@gameranxTV]

we need to ban this from all future games

[@jonj9352]

@@kylenyce8198 we may not have different buttons for looting and jumping but we do have mastectomy scars and lectures on pronouns

[@natheannzbar7925]

Trials of mana remake has the exact same issue

[@arcbladex7697]

You gotta remember enjoyment is subjective, the before you buy us one person's opinion and so are the bad reviews

[@seethisth4753]

So they didn't provide a review copy to a channel that has 8 million subscribers? That's weird.

[@ulvetid.01]

Guessing they refused to parrot the party line 'a return to form'.

[@solyd2402]

fextralife have a video talking about who did and didnt get a review copy and after the reviewers communicated with each other about who did and didnt get a copy, a bigger picture became obvious and clear, it was a deliberate and selective hand out to ensure minimal negative reviews and actually if you watch fextralife vid youll see the hand out was deceptive because some were reassured for a year or 2 leading up to release that the would get a copy but never received one believing it could have been due to the couple of negatives the mentioned among their mostly postitive pre release review when they got a few hours game time!

[@lenmodegaming6866]

Stop acting like it was a conspiracy it wasn’t you people sound insane lol

[@ethangoodwin7177]

jake said on twitter that the only reason they didnt get a code is quite literally because they forgot to email EA lol

[@rioplats]

@@lenmodegaming6866 AAA publishers cherrypicking reviewers to give code to is probably one of the least controversial unspoken truths out there, tbf. They have every incentive to do so - it bolsters their bottom line, with plausible deniability to boot.

[@pliniorezende5491]

"at very least I am just glad BioWare made a game that isn't a total disaster" - that's how low the bar is set right now?

[@Itomon]

The better question to ask is: is it worth the price? :v

[@Bemenhorst]

And that is the exact reason why new players seem to love it while we old players hate it. We have experienced actual good games

[@neck9808]

Since anthem and andromeda, yeah this is the new high for them lol

[@ninjapirate47]

@@Bemenhorst Yeah, children are gobbling up their spoon-fed diahorrea while saying "what's origins?".

[@generalnawaki]

@@neck9808 I'd argue since ME2 everything has been kind of a let down. Like as good as Inquisition is I know a LOT of people that hate it.

[@sniperz123]

The industry must stop associating a franchise/game's success with the studio name. Instead, focus on the team members’ names and the authors. Most of the former BioWare members have left the company.

[@Windmelodie]

I've already had my concerns when the whole situation with Cullen's VA, Greg Ellis, happened. He was really important for the role of our beloved Templar. The voice actors for new Failguard companions sound so disinterested and emotionless. "When the time comes, you will be thrown into his path again. Andraste preserve me... I must send you to him." (Still some of my favourite lines that give me shivers when I hear them)

[@KeirnothVT]

Yeah. The current Bungie for example have NONE of the superstars that made Marathon and Halo. Same for 343 for their later Halo games.

[@saudf5921]

Especially Naughty Dog And Rocksteady

[@dr_diddy]

True, iirc most of the current leads have been at Bioware for almost 20 years with a few working on Dragon Age material, alot of the seniors left as recent as 2023. Mass Effect has a new Narrative Director, she gave us Deus Ex Mankind but again some of the leads have previously worked on ME2/3 Preston Watamaniuk was the lead designer for the Mass Effect games and is now creative director so it'll be interesting to see how they do. Things can change though, I just hope development goes smoothly.

[@DeShawnMcDonald]

Not even people can pick up others work and keep the torch going as they always have the problem is who they put in charge. They see some weirdo dude running around in a heels and dress and go thats perfect, they don't care about qualifications they care about your identity

[@SamuraiSama]

In this dragon age role playing game your choices matter! Choice 1: be nice Choice 2: be nicely nice Choice 3: be super nice

[@autismincarnate3433]

option 4 be nice but in a snarky/ sarcastic way

[@katajiro8178]

No asshole choice. I don't feel represented.

[@Vss077]

tbh i always remembered dragon age to be like that. never seen some badass stuff in this series or at least stuff u remember / see in video/memes, like mortal kombat finishers are a classic everyone knows/seen even if u never played it. more like minority fanbase & mass effect was their big "high tier" game.

[@jessenichols9618]

On dao u could be outright sadistic at times and in 2 you had the red fist diologe which was usally stoic or ass holeish​ @Vss077

[@slandry4664]

@@SamuraiSama I don't think you understand the choice are tone : Accomodating / nice Humourous/ sarcastic Serious / direct The other uncommon options are : Suprised Angry Emotional 😭 romantic There's has never been a mean option in any dragon age game ever 😂 Y'all have the emotional intelligence of a rock 🪨

[@Nigel222]

The dialogue is extremely off putting. I do not understand how people can like this type of writing.

[@Itomon]

Maybe they don't but they also don't care, some gamers are more into it for the action aspect than the RPG aspect of it (I'm sad coz I'm def the RPG guy xD)

[@mxx720]

@Name-q7j Hey awesome, game developers _should_ get quiet rooms considering they experience extremely stressful crunch and work tons of overtime! Glad to hear you support positive mental health practices in the entertainment industry!

[@PlRRAD]

Real ppl dont, only the LGTVs do

[@SpookittyCat]

That one character Taash was like "who doesnt like dragons? ask Casandra, you rubbish bint. this isnt pokemon.

[@ninjapirate47]

@Name-q7j I was gonna comment but then you nailed it. We used to have these people who could do this thing... what was it called again... oh yeah, writing!

[@lokifrostpaw2976]

Hearing some pros, some cons, and some personal opinions is the reason I watch your reviews.

[@Nicholasmcmath-cr1xl]

Same for me too

[@user-zp8kj2cl9g]

Isn't what he considers as a pro or con already his personal opinion by definition?

[@KitePerson]

And the best part is that the pizza is always on Jake.

[@kuruk_war]

Most ppl haven’t event play this game n have negative opinions about the game 🤦🏻‍♂️. Just buy it and try it. 8/10-9/10 seems about right. I had played it for like 10h already. Enjoying my time with it.

[@Apethantos]

Don't forget some straight up gameplay

[@degenerategengar5650]

Can we please take note of the fact that veilguard simply ignores every action and meaningful consequences from the other three games, those choices and actions helped to build the world of inquisition, so why is it that veilguard just says "yeah no all the actions and choices made are now no longer canon."

[@hellasilky]

It's very disappointing. I could have maybe forgiven it if Veilguard had had a complex story with lots of emphasis on player choices at least for Rook, but there's no exploring or anything. They just tell you a straightforward story that you have no impact on :/

[@vanyadolly]

And intentionally removes any complexity or moral nuance from what came before.

[@jereboy2005]

Hey now let's be honest. They ignore everything except for 3 choices that happen pretty much at the very end of a dlc. I still can't believe they went with that design choice. It's like a core concept of this franchise.

[@vanyadolly]

@@jereboy2005 I can believe they did it. I can't believe some fans are going along with it!

[@nothingxbutxpoison]

Exactly 😑 is like whoever took over decided to read a couple pages of the lore and then decided you know what i can make this better. SPOILER ALERT they didn't

[@titularhero]

David gaider, creator of dragon age and lead writer of origins and 2, and co writer of inquisition, didnt work on this one. And my word it shows.

[@histkontext]

bioware most people who worked on the beloved games are no more - mass effect trilogy or DA:O - those are long gone

[@Andytlp]

@@histkontext replaced by mentally ill. Lets not beat around the bush.

[@MrCheesegr8r]

Dragon age writing has to be the most overrated thing people keep parroting. They never had mind blowing dialogue.

[@Dondonn8xm]

@MrCheesegr8r Agreed. David Gaider's writing was bad. They learnt the cringe and shallow characters from him. For further proof, check out his game since leaving Bioware called Stray Gods: The Roleplaying Musical.

[@yahyatavakoli1481]

​@@MrCheesegr8rother than witcher series I can't think of a rpg game which had better dialogue than origins.

[@Eattherich2025]

how you treat your companions doesn’t matter, you can romance anyone no matter how you talk to them, you can’t have negative talks with your companions, and your dialogue options don’t matter at all, and the combat is very repetitive.

[@eternaldarkness3139]

I'm not sure how I feel about that with companions. On one hand, it really removes much of the rpg element. On the other hand... After hearing; "Sarah Didn't Like That", 9 millions times and not getting to throw her holier-than-thou ass out of an airlock!!! Maybe a break from disposition systems is good.

[@Eattherich2025]

@@eternaldarkness3139 I understand that haha, I guess being able to romance anyone you want is pretty cool, but once you commit to kissing whoever you’re romancing you’re locked out of romancing anyone else and the rest of your companions will act like it never happened if you were romancing them. Tbh this game is like Disney made it fr fr.

[@aelinstue9431]

Sure are a lot of people who seem to hate the game but talk like they've put hundreds of hours into the game. If you're just going to regurgitate what someone else said in a review don't bother.

[@Eattherich2025]

@@aelinstue9431 lol go play and find what I’m saying is accurate see if I care bud

[@Welltron-3030]

They dont want to appear bigoted against people with shit personalities

[@Hartbreak1]

Now I understand why some devs took issue when people started comparing Baldur’s Gate 3 to the rest of the gaming industry. When “At least this game isn’t a total disaster” in a Dragon Age game is seen as a pro it shows how low the bar is now for games.

[@cavemanproductions8284]

THIS

[@Deznaj666]

Who need quality when you have DEI, right? 😂

[@deimosj1286]

@@Deznaj666 DEI doesn't necessarily exclude qualities. BG3 also got a fair bit of DEI innit, but it's a good game.

[@CheeseOfMasters]

@@deimosj1286 It's certainly not the strong part of BG3. Meritocracy breeds success, forced diversity and egalitarianism breeds mediocrity or worse.

[@Wonnjonn]

@@CheeseOfMastersI hate that the presence of Brown folks, women, queer folks, trans folks, etc in games is always framed as something that’s “forced”. Like we can’t even entertain the possibility that the presence of these characters/options was important to the devs

[@b1und3r21]

Tbh, my main gripe is the Forspoken-esque dialogue, it's very grating.

[@LegoYoda_69420]

HmmMmm extremely cringe, this is.

[@tylmf]

@@b1und3r21 thank DEI for that. Games nowadays are made for weirdo outcasts so this is what you get. If you want it to change, speak up.

[@BB-pf2cs]

With a really annoying accent!

[@zixise]

​​@LegoYoda_69420 so is your gimmick

[@Yoinkysploinky35]

@@tylmfbro complaining about DEI in a fantasy game with elven gods and dark spawn yeah you need to go outside buddy

[@Backyard_Brouhaha]

I dont even want to pirate this game

[@nickfrank4936]

bro you read my mind lol.

[@ninjapirate47]

I would however like to make it walk the plank.

[@ethanwright752]

it would be a waste of ssd write cycles

[@PulseOfMe]

But you would watch many videos about a game you apparently don't like okay got it 👍 these comments of"i hate this game so much its the worst blah blah blah" means nothing when you spend all day watching KZbin videos about it 😂 clearly living rent free in your empty bucket head

[@raphaelaraujo-rv9nr]

I waited 3 hours for it to download only to delete it after 30 minutes...

[@KerioFive]

Drop and do some push-ups, Bioware

[@sudharshankomandur4118]

It's called Barv, how dare you ignore the existence of their creativity.

[@Wicked061]

They cant even do 1. Too much soy running through their veins.

[@KerioFive]

@sudharshankomandur4118 😴 omg I feel so seen by this virtue signaling

[@ElBikeShop]

​@@KerioFiveagain, making it aaallll about yourself... Typical

[@KerioFive]

@@ElBikeShop hm?..

[@abbasshachem3383]

You said it best Jake The choices feel meaningless Your character always good You can romance anyone And you can't make people hate you or questions you

[@skadrithesalty9874]

I think you hit some of my issues on the head. What's the point of being a hero if you can't refuse the cruel or evil options? The computer may as well pick my choices for me for all the difference they make.

[@MsRafaelRGO]

Something that botther me a lot that i don't see people saying about the game, is how the player character is introduced to the story "Rook" is nobody, and has no business been there what so ever, it's like they made the story using the NPC characters and than realise "hey...we need a player character" kkkk For real just look at previous games Main Character: DA3 - the inquisitor, is a pilgrimage in the ground zero, and get marked by a unknown power capable of closing rifts, reason why he is brand as "chosen by the maker" so the main character despise been a nobody has a reason to be the main character, nobody else can close the rifts, etc etc. DA2 - We fallow Hawks growth from been a unknown refuge to someone with importance in the city of Kirkwall, as he show himself as been capable more and more people relly on him to resolve conflics, the story take years! DA1 - Depend on your Origin story, but it all came down to your life gets complicated and you end up been a new recrute of the Grey Wardens, by the time the initial story ends (that set you on your jorney) you are one of the 2 remain person capable of eliminate the nemesy of the story, that been said the entire story is a set up where the player need to make alliences (and build an army) to confront the impending doom's day army. DA4 - Veric summon you because "you are the guy" (for real his words in-game), so you can help him stop a "God" kkkkk...ah yes...Veric is personal friend of 2 of the previous games heroes (proven heroes) but hey...you "rook" is THE man/woman....to put simple any of the NPCs companious have more "right" to be the main character than the player character... I think the initial idea of the game was to have those pre-made character where the player would chose and play (when the game was supose to be a live service)...and it shows...it really shows. AH! and i wish this was the only problem with the game. it isn't.

[@stuart4341]

the best part about these games is making a hard choice where you don't know what the outcome will be or maybe you do know the outcome but its hard to decide what to do. Skyrim's imperials vs stormcloaks, mass effects saving the quarians or geth are great examples of that.

[@ProfessionalTrafficplayer]

It's not a Dragon Age game. It's an AGENDA driven slop.

[@Go_away_loser]

It is snowing on Mt. Fuji.

[@mrchiledonut]

I was going to get the game at some point, but maybe not soon. However, my brother gifted it to me and I've put about four hours into it so far. I am enjoying it, but it feels very back to basics as if they were saying to themselves, "Let's not push the scope of it out any more than it needs to be; let's tighten everything up and just make a good game." I even find the visuals, while still very good, not that different from Inquisition. It's a decent-looking, nice-sounding, fun-to-play game, but not pushing any boundaries whatsoever. After 10 years of no Dragon Age, I think I'm fine with that.

[@Infernoblade1010]

Guess it's time to play Dragon Age: Origins again

[@jordanbomb32]

That game and this one both need more trans representation This one has non binary but that's not enough. Both are seriously lacking

[@Just_Dova]

​@jordanbomb32 you can't be serious 😂

[@DarioVidili]

Fr I am booting it up rn.

[@torobi-sano9625]

Same

[@themouthofsauron6926]

@@jordanbomb32 but that would be delusional

[@KarneXII]

I've been a long-time fan. I have close to 1000 hours in Inquisition alone. I don't mind the combat change, even though it feels clunky for an action based combat system. But the thing that really kills me is the lack of choice carry over. Last year I replayed all the games to make my ideal choices. Hell, I played Inquisition twice to decide if I want to romance Solas or not. Then, to find that, what is effectively, nothing carries over... it killed so much of my hype for the game. A direct sequal where nothing in the previous, choice based, RPGs mattered.

[@AbstractTraitorHero]

The game actually does keep in mind if you romanced Solas.

[@m0-m0597]

well, the makers think that the older games are problematic

[@agirlnamedmichael1670]

@@m0-m0597 That explains why this game is just "ok"

[@KarneXII]

@AbstractTraitorHero I've started and I've seen the three choices it carries over. Three. Out of all the choices you make.

[@elderdankspawn3973]

Strongly agree, it blew my 12 year old mind when I saw that my choices from Origins carried over to DA2, a sad loss for dragon age, I find myself as I have with most new cherished games, wishing they'd taken a few more years to really make it special

[@villgoir]

I take this review over the people that got an early copy

[@edzyoutubehub]

And he still doesn't hate it like what you expected him to

[@glint6070]

@@edzyoutubehub Love? Well I've loved a few games, & I don't think I've ever talked about them the way he described this one, but okay I guess

[@leto_atreusII]

That makes no sense why? Is not like the game is different because you played early, it's still the same game bro.

[@themouthofsauron6926]

​@@edzyoutubehubI didn't hear "love"😂

[@chucknowakowski6676]

My only issue is just 10 hrs in…….a part 2 in a week would be 👍🏼

[@thorisomokanyane987]

This review was honest and fair, thank you. You guys have earned a new subscriber and will always refer to the channel for informed purchases

[@PrettyFella]

Review is far from honest and fair

[@permaugh]

"Okay", "not a total mess", and "Safe" being used to describe a Dragon Age game makes me sad. My hopes were very high for this game. lmao

[@KZ_MMA-KZ]

They were focused more on being inclusive to non-binary "people" than actually making a good game.

[@Joel-zo6yo]

@@KZ_MMA-KZ No one cares what kind of bullshit they put in their game if the game is good, but if you are sacrificing quality (such as writing) to fit it in then you've just f'd yourself. What a waste.

[@byte-bg4ob]

This dragon age game is basically just God of war ragnarok, coming from God of war 2018. It's safe and is not doing anything special, you could basically just watch the cinematics and skip the rest of the game

[@YTBrokenskull]

@@byte-bg4ob God of war has always been excluvely about story and additional elements in each game not as to create a jarring experience from one game to another. I came from the old God of wars on ps2, PSP, and the ps3. God of war 2018 and God of war Ragnarock were great in the series. I don't feel like safe is a way to describe sanata monicas way of doing things especially in god of war. Their story has always been a highlight and from what I'm gather Dragon Age kinda stagnated the story on this new one.

[@LaterHarmony]

Jesus christ youre the most sensitive fucker arent you?​@@KZ_MMA-KZ

[@akmal94ibrahim]

It's sad that the conclusion is "I am glad that Bioware made a game that isn't a total disaster"

[@silenthero2795]

Its just about the technical aspects but the financial part isn't shaping up to be good.

[@patteraj]

Isn’t the game not being a total disaster a good thing? Seems strange to frame that as something negative.

[@sakaaali]

@@patteraj The point is that "not a total disaster" is a very low bar. I know it's a long time ago now but Bioware has made some of the best RPGS of all time.

[@Spindual]

@@patterajThat's an insult, not a compliment. So no, not a good thing.

[@KeirnothVT]

​@@patterajBecause the bar has set low. NONE of the guys who made the old Bioware games are there anymore. It's been replaced by narcissistic Tumblrinas and it shows.

[@Solidwake]

I hear customize room and all I think is "This is commander shepard and this is my favorite store in the citadel."

[@jamois]

This is the only good comment on this video lol

[@atharvawaikar9730]

An actually wholesome comment on this video? Inconceivable!!

[@andrehenderson7820]

@@jamoisthis is the first normal comment I saw in the thread I had to scroll through a bunch of garbage 😭

[@Jay_draco]

*on the citadel

[@frost3193]

​​@@Jay_draco Do you really know how the preposition of time works? You have to correct it, and yet you are also wrong lmao. Shouldn't cut your English class, buddy.

[@Roan_Adams]

I don't get it how everyone is quippy, the writing is childish and lacks bite. We went from a rich RPG with a lot of dark fantasy tropes to something that feels like it was made to a ten year old from writing, art style and the choices lack so much impact. I'm very disappointed.

[@DarthRadical]

It's Marvel-ization

[@ksh2596]

​@@DarthRadicalit's even worse than that

[@ixinor]

Could you give an example of writing that's bad versus good?

[@angryvaultguy]

​@@ixinora lot of the dialogue in origins was pretty immersive because they actually sounded like people who lived in that world Veilguard had people apologising for misgendering a freaking non human qunari and doing pushups like they are some college students therapy club

[@Sentient-JL]

I'm sorry, but after seeing someone scale the heads of some companion's heads down and compared it to the original I just can't unsee it now. Everyone's head looks so huge compared to their body mass.

[@khonjel_singh]

And be sure that NexusMods will remove the mods that might try to fix that.

[@raven-0621]

And all the Qunari getting a facial harmonization...

[@whiskslim237]

gonna wait for mods at the very least lol

[@khonjel_singh]

@@whiskslim237 I don't know where my comment went. But nah, nexus mods will remove any mods that "supposedly" harms the representation of freaks.

[@ninjapirate47]

Are you sure that isn't just the modern "women"?

[@arcanewargaming]

I miss the old DAO covered in blood after battles

[@behar225]

Noo you're triggering me 😖

[@notthischannel]

Yeah, let's make another origins game where the majority of players didn't finish and didn't play past the battle of Ostagar.

[@benedictjajo]

​@@notthischannel source, my grandma told me...

[@mermidion7552]

@@notthischannel aaah "majority" . i think you need to open a dictionary cause you clearly dont know what that word means.

[@AsGoodAsFunny]

DA:O is in the conversation for the GOAT for me.

[@korniestpatch]

Dragon age origins and DA2 fan here. Doesn’t seem like the game was made for me as a fan of the older games. Definitely a skip for me.

[@korniestpatch]

@Name-q7jit was significantly different to the first one, but I still enjoyed the story, not as much as Origins. But I still played it through twice.

[@somereflections567]

​@@korniestpatchdragon age 2 was a boring mess, couldn't complete it.

[@DaTommyN]

The older games were made by talented and highly skilled poeple. This one by activists.

[@marvin_demon]

I also like DA2, not as good as Origins but still fun and engaging. This on the other hand is a big FU to long time fans. Some of the subjects the game tackles has nothing to do with DA or fantasy but modern day activism

[@KeirnothVT]

The people who made this game want you gone. I'm not kidding. This isn't made for DA fans, it's made for *them*.

[@mataotopete7325]

This is why I always watch you guys. It is easy to trust you guys to be honest. I had been hearing alot of poor reviews but it seems to me as a standalone game it might be pretty decent. As a dragon age game it doesn't meet the expectations one might have for the name. The game play does make me want to play this.

[@MuffinYoBusiness]

I spent a whole month playing all 3 of the dragon age games again just to not have a nostalgic bias with this and it’s only making this experience worse.

[@Itomon]

Thats... sad, to say the least But the video has a good point: it is a good action rpg, solid release, sadly the story and style doesn't seem good enough to generate DAO levels of hype

[@DantesInferno96]

I've never played those earlier when they came out. I only played them last month when I had the time so I relate.

[@crystalz-h1d]

Do the push-ups!

[@KeirnothVT]

​@@ItomonNo. It really is not. It's below average with very bad writing and a cult like/ideological slant.

[@Fervent._]

I am gonna finish Dragon Age Inquisition that’s the only one I have sorta played.

[@paulbergevin3602]

A bit cheesy is an understatement. Honestly I havent played for more than 8 hours and I was already feeling like skipping dialogs.

[@TheUberjammer]

The cheese in previous games was always there, but it wasn't processed. It feels to me like a surprisingly apt metaphor.

[@razoalm13]

Daaaang. 😂 I getcha.

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

The dialogue bounces between being so dumbed down and repetitive like it was written for 5 year olds to forcibly nice while lecturing about “inclusivity” like it was coming straight out a mandatory HR seminar, and I don’t know which is worse. All I know is BioWare did a stellar job chancing away their audience

[@zacharykraft1098]

@@TheUberjammerThat’s because it was nuanced. The characters had developed personalities. While yes you could say they were archetypes like most characters have to be in general for any kind of narrative/writing, they weren’t heel turn subversions nor were they cardboard cutout pictures of said archetypes. Instead they had depth and breadth. Like dear god Morrigan is today still one of the best romances in a RPG ever Imp.

[@isaacwest276]

I've seen 10 minutes of this game and I hate the dialogue with a passion.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

I'll always trust a review from a reviewer who didn't get an early review code over one who did

[@idakev]

Jake on Twitter: "to be fair, everyone I know got review code. I just forgot to send an email" lol

[@Hyrule409]

@@idakev Jake trying not to get on EA's blacklist and said that like he had a gun to his head lol

[@AgentSmith-oh7sb]

It's so refreshing to see someone have a nice, non-extreme take on this game. Thanks for reminding why I trust this channel more than most sources.

[@TerminalFrost79]

Crazy that a channel of this magnitude didn’t get a review copy.

[@viperson9818]

Apparently the rumor is if you don’t have the chance to give it a high rating you weren’t given a copy.

[@solyd2402]

yeah watch fextralife vid on that issue.

[@jeanvaljean6433]

​@@viperson9818Me when I spread absolute nonsense

[@TerminalFrost79]

@@viperson9818 yeah I figured so. I knew IGN would glaze all over it and they did

[@cenciende9401]

Not really, I watch all the before you buys and it's actually often the case

[@tommy_lyon]

When you appeal to everyone, you appeal to no-one.

[@ethanwright752]

And when you appeal to no-one (like this game) you... uhhh.. appeal to no one I guess lol

[@nikobellic8002]

@@ethanwright752 That is also true

[@williamyoung9401]

"The dialogue feels a bit...cheesy..." Code for BORING. I'm out. Time to play Origins again. 🦖🦋🔥

[@georgejones5019]

They tried to appeal to the 3% of people who want diversity and inclusion in video games.

[@ethanwright752]

@@georgejones5019 hope they can keep a hundred million dollar game studio floating!

[@MsRafaelRGO]

The initial trailer that was very "controversial" nailed what the game actually is, everyone thought "it can't be that" but it is, simple as that, i hope they didn't already fired that team, they actually did a great job narrowing the vibe of the actual game.

[@aliasname2618]

"NARROWING THE VIBE" using language that has absolutely no meaning just to sound semicompetent.

[@keahnuparata1736]

My favourite part of Inquisition was its intricate roleplaying choice consequence system (a lot of games released around this time did it well). everyone and everything felt like it mattered and that if carefully thought through your actions could lead you to any outcome you desired or at the very least an interesting surprise you never saw coming. Everything felt weighted and gritty and helped introduce me to adult fantasy fiction.

[@Kytetiger]

10:52 Jake says that he "puts it in the 'ok' category"

[@Itomon]

And it feels a fair judgement tbh or should we say "an 'ok' judgement" xD

[@ScaryScarab21]

Yeah, he's playing it safe, cowardly

[@RanmaSaotome1_2]

Ok isn't bad and he literally says it's a solid game seconds later. Stop trying to paint it like he didn't enjoy the game you weirdos.

[@Bemenhorst]

@@RanmaSaotome1_2 you‘re pretty fast at throwing insults

[@ninjapirate47]

@@Bemenhorst Douse him with cold water.

[@JUANofFewWords]

I can say that this channel is one of the good ones to use as a basis or guide. It shows the pros and cons and provides a personal opinion, unlike other channels that seem to focus only on the negatives and their dislikes (some just want to get a views). Kudos!

[@justaw2982]

Plays it “safe” and “cheesy” truer words have never been spoken 😂

[@nickythenick91]

And softest for this kind of mess.

[@David-ud9ju]

They sound like very safe ways of describing it as well.

[@LuchaGangsta]

Yah like i feel Jake won't come outright and say it's DEI doodoo because he doesn't wanna divide his fanbase because what brings us together is gaming as a whole.

[@chloewebb5526]

Dragon Age Inquisition did something I had never seen in DA: A twist that completely upped the stakes and gave me goosebumps when corypheus plows through the camp and you find the castle, bringing the light management gameplay as well. I was so invested in all of this and also was dating the dreadwolf as an elf in my first playthrough, unbeknownst to me. There was just so much awesomeness in the story even though the open world gameplay left something to be most the time. The first DA I played was the original, and was a huge fan of BG1 2 and KoToR before mass effect an dragon age became a thing. Only DA2 was dissapointing really, with the repetative dungeons an tiny city "open world". I really hope this game can keep me a DA fan....

[@FriendlyDemon93]

Solidly made ARPG's (good combat, nice graphics, etc) are fairly commonplace. I've come to love the Dragon Age series for offering rarer/deeper experiences, focused on character, agency & atmosphere. If those things are missing from Veilguard I'm not interested.

[@Gwilherm]

Amen to that comment

[@Itomon]

Yea... I fear most ppl won't be very interested in this game anyways

[@wearecatyouarerat2802]

for me no good combat no playing ,,, i have book that was writtten better than dragon age origin ..

[@WeAsOneRiseGaming]

If this game was called something else completely and was the start of its owm IP, it would have been loved by all the people saying it's not dragon age anymore. Im really enjoying my gameplay and my mage build. I definitely enjoy the warrior class as well but like my mage more. First time i have actually felt bad aaa as a mage!!! Dope game.. Im not familiar with all the other dragon ages, maybe thats why i love this game??? Idk, but i tried inquisition 1 time and couldn't do it. The combat was so bad it was unplayable for me and legit just hold square and wait for moves to recharge... sucked. I love the more action focused combat for sure. This is definitely better than let's say atlis fallen!!! I dont get a lot of the hate. it's actually super fun and dope. Try it for yourself if you havent yet!!!

[@ayoifeoni]

An objective review without an undertone of vitriol. Thanks, Jake and Gameranx

[@devoid5637]

Agreed.

[@JailbotBot-tn5ys]

You guys may have been denied a review code, but you preserved your integrity as an honest reviewer. You guys have helped me decide on wether something is worth spending money on or not, and I'm happy I can count on you in the future. Access journalism has NO place in the gaming comunity!

[@BlitzB0xR]

That push-up scene 😨😨😨😨

[@ethanwright752]

The fact they tried forcing this in the game is grounds for the dismissal of every bioware employee. Just fire them all at this point. Horrible people.

[@TheUberjammer]

Yikes. Half my friends are trans, I'll make sure to bomb our friendships by telling them that I'm not going to just apologize like an adult, but instead make them wait while I do pushups.

[@DjemSo]

​@@ethanwright752omg they acknowledge that non-binary people exist! These people are horrible! 🤡🤡🤡

[@rigatenes338]

​@@ethanwright752Get some help bro. See a therapist.

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

Just wait till you see the cutscene on respecting and constantly affirming everyone’s “multiculturalism”

[@ExpanderDJ]

"At the very least, I'm just glad Bioware made a game that isn't a total disaster." Ahh, thanks, that sound very reassuring for me as a consumer.

[@nikobellic8002]

Bar is low. Bar is nowhere. Bar is gone.

[@fuckshit8208]

We need to start thinking of ourselves as customers. "Consumer" sounds so derogatory.

[@jameslebron2403]

​@Machoman50ta and you consider that a negative?

[@futrecacao]

​@Machoman50taI'm not American and I'm not progressive, but even I know Trump is a lunatic

[@MrSpartan993]

About that…

[@ryangarrison9505]

I’m glad we think the same on this game. I didn’t play the other games though but the hate this game got I ignored and really am liking how this game is unfolding

[@barbwilson4820]

I just started this and so far- No matter how dire the circumstances there seems no angst (yet) and I feel like I might be on a Barbie adventure. "Hello new friend! How many people died and where should we go eat lunch?" So far voice acting has given me such happy little voices no matter what they talk about. Like I said I am just getting started with this but I hope some characters in the future will sound like they are out of puberty. edit: I just realized that the voice acting might be the reason I only like calm or kindhearted pawns in DD2 after 800+ hours. lol.

[@JasonTheOneAndOnly]

I used to love the old dragon age games, but this has nothing that makes me want to buy it, Bioware if people have to choose between food or fuel or this, ya gonna have to do better.

[@Grace1957-]

I loved 1 & 2 but just couldn't get into 3 and this looks just like it.

[@CK-lt6jl]

fitgirl released the crack, and i can't even be bothered to pirate it. the qunari looks terrible, the dialogue turns me off so much and who the fucking fuck is Rook? Where's my inquisitor? where's the warden? Ok maybe my warden would be chained in Morrigan's sex dungeon but where's my inquisitor? Ugh.

[@Itomon]

@@CK-lt6jl lol

[@empire-classfirenationbatt2691]

Yep. What I loved about dragon age was the rich story, choices and lore more than anything. DA2 was the first where the gameplay and story came together for me personally. I liked all the dragon age games in their own way but from this review it seems I'm only going to maybe enjoy the gameplay.

[@eldenarmortem975]

@@CK-lt6jl I ve pirated it, it is terible, combat was fun for like 5 hours, theres no weight you dont even notice when you get hit, I hate armour designs and actualy miss the coat spam from Inquisition. Cant say anything possitive about writing and hate Neves VA

[@Matheus_Pedroni]

Jake, it's really refreshing to watch a review that's so balanced and well put as yours. Im currently at 17 hours in the game and i couldnt agree more with both the pros and cons as you put them. Dialog in general is really weak, but I'd take the gameplay from this one 20 times over DA Inquisition. Story wise, feels like they went soft - or safe, if you rather - but that's not the end of the world. There's still some fun to be had there

[@Urik187]

Thanks you for making your review about the game and not the politics surrounding them. I have waited for your review in this as I knew it would focus on the game.

[@nightingalevoyager977]

Already bought the game and I really enjoy it. This game isn't for everyone but the people who do enjoy it, really enjoy it. Assan really sold me on this game and I adore him ❤

[@Telecaster324]

Lol funny how so many people said they bought it and love it but the player count is in hell

[@nightingalevoyager977]

@Telecaster324 I bought my game last week, I had to wait to get a PS5. If Dragon Age Veilguard has no players, then I'm dead

[@Telecaster324]

@@nightingalevoyager977 haven't been paying much attention huh? Lol you might just be dead, cause no rock you could live under is that shut off from the world

[@zinadana1476]

Inquisition had some issues too but at least when I was running around getting my 20th thing of elfroot I still *felt* something

[@zigs44]

Felt like completing a grocery list...

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

If I can't be an asshole, I'm not playing.

[@collapsiblechair9112]

don't worry you can be an arsehole in real life or on the internet.

[@darianstarfrog]

It gets worse, they force your character to choose being trans..wtf?

[@dr_diddy]

@@darianstarfrog me when i spread misinformation you can say no btw guys

[@chasingdaydreams2788]

@@darianstarfrog it's not forced onto your character btw, but it is one of the many examples of them shoving their vile agenda in your face.

[@BibithePing]

Most of you are around the asshole, but its still there👍

[@chevelle428]

Thanks gameranx for another respectable review

[@BigNothingMonsterMan]

This felt like a super honest and reasonable review. Thanks!

[@coreymilani643]

Been waiting for this review. Thanks Jake!

[@BigNerd724]

I actually really enjoyed inquisition and thought it had good replay value. Sunk about 15 hours into this game now and im just not feeling it. The art style is not my cup of tea, way to pixar for my liking and as jake touched upon i play a dragon age game because i want to roleplay in a a fantasy setting. This just feels more like a hack and slash with occasional dialogue choices for flavour.

[@alexh7513]

I really hope you bought it, because you have played all the better games like Baldurs Gate 3 already and you didn't have something else to play. Because there are a lot of better games out there.

[@LarryFaulkner]

I'm a big Dragon Age fan and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. I think the combat is fun and fast paced and the characters are decent. I think it's okay to have different opinions 😅

[@MrSpartan993]

Did you even PLAY the other games?!

[@scottcraddock1068]

I did. A lot of Inquisition felt like a chore, the power system was annoying as hell. I love this game, it’s like Mass Effect 2 but set in the Dragon Age universe.

[@O_S_M_I_U_M]

@@MrSpartan993 wtf? The reply to your question was answered by an entirely different account, but answered as though they're the same person.

[@MorrisseyMuse]

The ONLY review that matters...thanks!

[@Borlean1]

I'm pretty deep into the story now, can confirm there are some decisions that affect the story pretty significantly. For the most part though it plays like the new god of war franchise; collect loot, puzzles are simple and combat makes you feel like a god once you get enough levels. It's fun but simple.

[@angryvaultguy]

A alright game on its own but a lowsy Dragon age game I think that's what most of the criticisms lay, if the game was called anything but Dragon age it wouldn't have such a large backlash

[@teehee8522]

Thanks for the video, we will not buy it.

[@ClassicHospital]

2:49 had me laughing hard. It looks silly as hell. The whole sequence with the purple winged guy 😂

[@treygraphicsfte6747]

I was looking for this comment to see if I was the only one who felt a wave of comedy and cringe from the purple winged guy trying to have a bad ass scene but ended up giving a “zesty” Batman gag instead

[@Roonco12]

@@treygraphicsfte6747 Looked like fucking Ru Paul out there dancing around.

[@devanffff]

My thought is there was too much time between games and long time fans came to expect a certain follow up to DAI, and to get emotionally invested in said expectation, and were let down. They let expectations dictate their reaction to the game vs the game itself, hence the vitriol. Game is good. Not great, but good, and that’s OK. Not every game is gonna be a masterpiece. Some people need to touch grass.

[@reikoruffneck4613]

1:43 So the elder gods are the directer and writer of Bioware? The only true representation of themelves in the game

[@kuakakik0]

This is why this channel is so great. Always an actual unbiased game review. Thanks for the video never liked Inquisition but may give this one a shot when it’s on sale.

[@Sweet_Pup_g]

I think I’ll check it out myself at like $25 a couple years from now

[@majorgear1021]

That would be a waste of $25

[@Chippaization]

there is zero drm....the easiest yo oh oh game this year. unironically it was cracked within a few hours of release along with the Deluxe Edition

[@atharvawaikar9730]

As mentioned above, there’s no DRM. You can check the game out right now if you want to. I’m having a good time personally.

[@ethanwright752]

gonna be like gotham knights, you can get it for 9 bucks within a few months.

[@borek92]

Couple of years from now it’s gonna be more like 5 bucks.

[@gorleobabakhanyan9666]

I trust this channel so much, bro. I haven’t bought a game in the last 2 years without watching your review first!

[@LongWalker730]

Wow the bar is so low for games these days. As long as it's playable it's "not bad"😂

[@Dustinthewind03]

And the prices are so high. 70 bucks for this. Like what?

[@GoldenSun5631]

Finally, a fair and balanced review of this game that isn't just riding the hyperbole hate train for clicks and views. You clearly stated what you liked, what you didn't and so on without being extreme in your description just to garner more hate and engagement and clicks etc. Seems like a fun, but somewhat generic feeling and somewhat water downed version of a story-based RPG game. Does not seem worthy of full price for me but will probably give it a shot once it's down to at least 50 percent or simply put on the game subscriptions (like EA play).

[@thematthewlondon]

i watched dunkey's video first and when you said "these evil elven gods were awakened" i chortled

[@pghcraig]

I don’t think you played into it enough to really grasp the dialogue choices. Your choice is turned on or off favor from your party and later on your relationship’s type more into story. There are also some pretty big hitting decisions that impact party members and the story greatly. A pissed off party member stops using defensive abilities, and all sorts of different things in response. The problem with all these overviews and reviews thus far is the people haven’t played enough of the game to really understand how it builds. It does start off very light, but it’s more like the earlier missions or training wheels and then it starts to really get more intricate.

[@MikkiZHskDK]

I like how ppl say the game isnt dark in tone anywhere at all even one bit.. yet the first time you see a blighted village there is corpses everywhere being shoved inside houses until its cramped and falling out, dismembered dead bodies everywhere and piles on piles of bodies ... yeah i see, 😂 and choosing what to do to the mayor was legit a time where my team questioned my decisions

[@coolchester4703]

Been waiting on this video all week! Thanks Gameranx!

[@Kuryux]

5:49 unpredictable unsurprising? Which one is it?

[@Moochers]

Graphics look amazing!

[@robinrondo]

Just happy and grateful to hear its a decent enough to be an enjoyable game at least, couldve been another Anthem or Andromeda disaster. It still interest me enough to at least give it a shot 👍👍

[@magnomliman8114]

i hope you like the forced trans conversations.

[@alexh7513]

We have so much better games. So decent isn't good enough anymore.

[@gaurd3]

In years past this would have been an EVENT.

[@ethanwright752]

Younger gamers dont know what disasters these games are today. We used to line up outside game stop to get the new bioware game launch day.

[@nicholasrova3698]

@@ethanwright752 Younger gamers have existed in a sea of s**t for so long that when one of the turds shines slightly they think it's gold.

[@tiveqcriarcontanova]

I think this review matches the game: it is a safe review, almost like you are trying not to offend anyone. I think you could do better.

[@alexh7513]

I think the review is very good. It's an ok game, but nothing special and he presented it exactly like that.

[@tiveqcriarcontanova]

​@@alexh7513 I disagree. Combat is repetitive and annoying, and so are the enemies. The puzzles are... they're not puzzles. They are child's play. And the dialogue is one of the worst I've ever seen in any game. I can't even classify how bad it is. These things should be addressed, and he skimmed through it for fear of backlash. It is a safe review.

[@futrecacao]

​@@tiveqcriarcontanovaI'm not enjoying the game, but why do you talk as if your opinion is absolute and everyone should agree?

[@tiveqcriarcontanova]

@@futrecacao I'm not. Opinions are subjective. Yet there are facts in what I say.

[@mes4ever2000]

User Reviews are not an indicator if products are good or not. A positive user review from a verified purchase indicates that was right to buy products. A negative user review indicates the user should not have purchased the product and Pro Viewers failed to steer the person away from buying the products. In perfect work, 100% of verified purchase User reviews would be positive. Not cuz the product is good cuz the people who didn't enjoy the product were steered away from buying it. It's companies marketing department's job to sellitsr products and it is Pro Reviews' job to steer people away from buying products they wouldn't enjoy. And some pro Reviews do a better job at this than others. Thanks for your services.

[@thewitcherx72x]

Seems it grows on you the more you play. Jake's comments are pretty in line with the general (non-biased) discourse online. Though I wonder if his thoughts would change when he plays more

[@Holy_Glaive]

This is the WORST "before you buy" of all time. You said the returning characters are iconic yet they are complete reworks from the last game. Aaand why did you not WARN us of how gender OBSESSED this game is? Sorry mate but this is a poor representation of a "before you buy" ever. You also talked about the gameplay in a way that seems deceitful. It is basic and boring. It is predictable and repetitive... This review makes me question as to whether or not YOU actually played it or, in general, play videogames often. Js this is the most 'kid gloves' "before you buy" review of all time, and now has made "before you buy" videos lose all future credibility. Speak truthfully or make a "before you buy" on a game where in which you can speak honestly about it.

[@jstappin]

I played a little, and my main issue is that I don’t feel like I am playing a dragon age game. For one, this is a very PG game when Dragon Age is a rated r game. The fact it ignores the past when the others did not. The dialogue is horrible. The choices you make don’t matter, it’s you are locked into being good. The darkspawn and demons are not scary. Basically, everything that made Dragon Age great is not present in this game. Bottom line, a Dragon Age fan will loathe this game. A casual gamer with not fan investment will love it. They clearly did not want or care to please the actual fans, and that is unfortunate because there was so much potential plot wise to be great.

[@PersonalPariah]

Ironic to describe it as "not for everyone" when it feels like the explicit intent of EA/Bioware was to make a game that was safe, simple and inoffensive enough to be "for everyone".

[@zachb1706]

The average person is repulsed by PC garbage

[@Plant..]

Its so funny he made pretty much the same character i did. I thought that hairstyle was the most link-like I'd ever seen in another game

[@davidharris3728]

I miss the full diolgue options of the first DA, or Fallout NV. You've pretty much hit the nail on the head with the dialogue wheel. It doesn't feel like there's any real choice. Where in past games I had to really think about what I was going to say. There wasn't even any indication on which one was the 'good' or 'bad' response. Now it feels like it doesn't really matter, why even give me a diologue wheel?

[@Ashbrash1998]

It's a peoblem in ALOT of games, Bethesda has a similar problem too. DA has had it sinxe DA 2

[@Windmelodie]

It feels like: "Hey, these dialogue options are pretty neat, don't you think?" - "Hell yeah, they're cool!" - "Pretty good in my silly books!" - "I agree." - (optional) "Yeah, I'm trans and now I feel so represented by this!" And we don't get any options along the lines of "No, they suck and your mum is ugly". Can't even be a proper arse in this game (let alone have one)

[@TermiJP]

Idk if it is cause i was never attached to the actual characters/dialogue in dragon age but I've been enjoying it a lot! DA 2 was my first and prob still my fav (yes I know the game has issues) but this one has been very fun and good so far! I've always loved the world building more than anything in this franchise and they do a great job with that in this game so it works for me 🤷 i do wish they kept some of the gore tho, they do have it here but more as an artistic tool rather than a part of the gameplay. But that was already toned down in Inquisition a lot... And i did play 2 first which has exaggerated gore lol

[@TermiJP]

And I do agree that the dialogue is a bit cheesy in this one but it doesn't bother me as much. Never saw dragon age as a franchise with great dialogue tbh it had a lot of cringey dumb edgy shit 🤣

[@MrPepeLePewPew]

You are one of the most thorough game reviewers around. Keep up the good work and I may just check this one out due to the creativity available for us.

[@AtakenSmith]

I feel like there was a slight "let's walk on this ice slowly and nicely" in this review...

[@Matthewmest]

Agreed 100%

[@bernieseth5115]

Do not buy Dragonage valegaurd it's complete garbage.

[@Hauerization]

I hear its banned in Saudi Arabia. Does that mean the hole country have to do pushups?

[@ayahuascamaharaja]

It means you support censorship as long it is against things that offends you

[@Hauerization]

​@@ayahuascamaharaja Are you talking about me specifically or people in general?

[@whytejeebus]

By far the most unbiased review to date.

[@RobertSmith-gu7qo]

Good review. You're comments are spot on, from what I've seen. I definitely agree with your analysis of the weakness/meaninglessness of the conversation system. And we need a remake/remaster/follow up sequel to Jade Empire.

[@threestars2164]

We do NOT need any more remakes in this disgusting creatively bankrupt era of gaming!

[@mtcup]

The only Before you Buy that we really haven’t bought

[@apocalypticsword5524]

Oh you bought this. My condolences to your wallet.

[@anthonyplaysbass]

It's ok he's funded by EA/Bioware/Obsidian/IGN so he's fine

[@mrwips5836]

Appreciate the honest review - Liked and subscribed 👍

[@SpiritualityBro]

For a channel that rated this game 10/10 everything you say sounds like bull crap

[@fefefefe56]

I'm reading the Steam reviews and half of them are just complaining/responding to other reviews they didn't like. Same thing for Joker 2, barely anyone wants to give a legit, standalone review instead just respond to bad arguments on the other side. If you do this, people with integrity will not take much of what you write seriously because you are spending energy trying to spite other reviewers instead of simply giving a good review - period. Don't read their reviews before writing your own if you're going to be engaging with low hanging fruit/arguments and allow it to take over your own opinion.

[@Jmerithew87]

And there it is

[@LilChanYiuFai]

I love your honest opinion! 🤭 I feel like the other reviewers were very generous!