The Absolute State Of Dragon Age: The Veilguard

[@BroadMeadow-d9s]

“A good novel tells us the truth about its hero; but a bad novel tells us the truth about its author.” G. K. Chesterton

[@ToeCutter0]

@@BroadMeadow-d9s Based. 👍

[@dante58]

This is perfectly shown with the ready player one and two books. The first is an excellent adventure book with a great cast of characters with a protagonist that learns and grows wonderfully by the end of the book. The second book by the same author of course is a complete reset of the protagonists progress with some bizarre changes to existing characters, some truly misguided attempts at preachy messaging all wrapped up in a book that reads more like a screenplay showing the author's desperation for another slice of hollywood clout featuring only the "correct" political opinions.

[@SFJake250]

This phrase applies to too many stories nowadays...

[@GnTGamePlays]

That’s a great quote.

[@tuorofgondolin8235]

Chesterton never holds back. :)

[@cqwiii]

Jesus I cant believe she kissed him without a signed consent form. Stunning. Brave.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

he is a man, it's not needed. Only women need to give consent

[@Jasper_Silva]

Yes, that's sexual assault! She's cancelled.

[@DanielCarlsson-ug4pu]

@@Jasper_Silva Its ok! The victim was a man! Did i just assume their gender? FUCK! Im canceled now!

[@jimherold7827]

More like RAPE

[@phonicrose8395]

​@@DanielCarlsson-ug4pucan't apologize for it. Instead physically punish yourself in silence as to not make it about you

[@CanadaPlus]

Forspoken's dialogues. Concord's graphics. Dustborn's preachings. Anthem's gaslighting. Suicide Squad's disrespect for the source material. It's a perfect storm.

[@andrews.7754]

The Woke Mind Virus has infected everything at this point. The dwarf puking exemplifies most gamer reactions to this absolute shite.

[@RealityCheck6969]

Actually the graphics are ok if you can forget the previous DA games and just accept the new art style as it is: Disneyish. That's not a problem in itself.

[@robotman011]

@@RealityCheck6969Thats literally one of the biggest problems lmao. Have you even played the previous three games. It’s extremely jarring. All you need to do is have DA:O, DA2, and DA:I side by side with this garbage. I’m not even mad about this game, I’m just sad and disapppointed this franchise got its andromeda/Saints Row Reboot moment

[@ShadQuakeFix]

Couldn't of said it better myself!

[@kayne8222]

,Congratulations. You played yourself. It's not Disney, it's dragon. Age.

[@temetnosce2099]

This game being "a therapy session for the writers" is so incredibly accurate.

[@rgw7345]

You can't tell me the dinner table scene isn't one of the writers real experience. It's too bland and awkward to be fictional.

[@aldinoindra2742]

@@rgw7345 Fuck man i think i'll see myself out

[@EmberTheShark]

SkillUp said it feels like like HR is in the room at all times when characters talk and i could not have come up with a better analogy

[@alexkogan9755]

When even SkillUp can’t stand how much amateurish nonsense your game is filled with, then you know it’s f@&ked.

[@D1rt3nthu51ast]

they speak like robots coded by HR mutants

[@BonesinMeat]

​@@D1rt3nthu51astlike the Avatar of Asperger's. Real humans don't talk like that

[@Evanz111]

I swear I’ve seen this top comment on literally every video about Veilguard..

[@johnboylan3832]

I can. It is like shitting out of your mouth.

[@kizmo2317]

The DEI folks have sure saved me a ton of money this year. Thanks, I guess.

[@pipwolverine]

Me too! I ought to send them a card

[@Darkfyre1705]

@@pipwolverine Or a fruit basket. everyone loves those.

[@garrytalaroc]

But they seem to have unlimited amount of money to be burning it all. I wonder how long they can keep up.

[@HekateMGO]

@@Darkfyre1705they may like a fruitcake more

[@pipwolverine]

@@Darkfyre1705 Good idea, maybe some mangoes and pears?

[@SammEater]

As a foreigner the last thing I want from a medieval fantasy game is to be reminded that California still exists.

[@gman3976]

As an American, same.

[@BlackHeartRyo]

Damn, that hurts.

[@Ntmoffi]

I'm from California and I agree.

[@Jasper_Silva]

We should start calling this kind of cringe neo d&d fantasy setting "medieval california" lol

[@zxyatiywariii8]

As an American who's spent some time in California, I agree.

[@HeyItsTheWykydtron]

If you're going to write "trans", "gender-fluid" or "non-binary" in your fantasy game at least try to make sure it sounds like it BELONGS to the world of your established fantasy game. Use flowery words or some sort of metaphor as a description as to not break immersion.. not directly reference real world 2024 lingo like it came straight out of a Starbucks employees mouth from LA

[@bensemusx]

Ya the dialog is very much from our world. It’s not fantasy themed at all.

[@sean8102]

I believe they did exactly that for DA:I I'm pretty sure that game had a gay char and even a trans char. But instead of just shoving in modern terms like "non binary" etc. They came up with a unique word from the trans char's culture to describe being trans. For exactly the reasons you said, so it sounds like it belongs. Just making a char trans or non binary or whatever (like Trash or whatever the f the chars name is) and have them just throwing around modern terms.

[@Josh-iv2bw]

Didn't Witcher do that?

[@XiaoFury]

I'd prefer they not bring this stuff into games at all. It's perversion.

[@xgudnitexgudnite228]

BioWare: Please enjoy our 60 hour HR re-education diversity program.

[@patbluetree4636]

With a 60$ admission fee.

[@darthtrayus6066]

No, I don't think I will.

[@KLRN-qc7jp]

Lol, that's 100% on point 😆

[@jthompson6189]

It really does feel like a game created by HR to approach workplace harrassment.

[@haisibanaag1563]

With a heavy dose of MGay Ultra.

[@heartbreakridge42]

The redesign of the Qunari is a a crime in and of itself

[@cian239]

If i could ritual sacrifice them as a tevinter mage it would be fun

[@marcogenovesi8570]

It's a Queernary now

[@maledikt]

Let's face it, for some reason this specific race gets a redesign in every new installment... This is the least appealing, though.

[@LSB001]

It was obviously done to please whoever the self-insert for Trash is supposed to be.

[@diomedes7971]

​@@malediktInquistion I felt was their best look.

[@DualStupidity]

Hearing the term "non-binary" in this setting is as jarring as hearing the words "internet" or "United States".

[@sigma6656]

"No cap! The chaos spawn have us low key surrounded, everyone jump in my Ford Focus!"

[@jimherold7827]

"Why are you so worried about 'the internet' being in a fantasy story that literally has dragons and demons in it?" LOL 🤣🤣🤣

[@y44ctt]

⁠@@jimherold7827because the term internet doesn’t belong in a world with dragons and demons it’s just stupid. Lowers the immersion it’s really simple 😂

[@pearsemolloy9656]

Same with the word “trans”. Even though Inquisition had a minor trans character in Krem I don’t think the word itself was ever used. Probably because they knew how out of place it would have sounded.

[@jonathanbaker4361]

Hearing the term "non-binary" in any human interaction is jarring. When I first heard it, I thought it was some alternate programming language.... I guess in a way it is. But I didn't think they ment people!

[@tcg2717]

"Non-binary".............??????? In a fantasy medieval game???????? Good god.

[@metaouroboros6324]

Medieval citizen: but what is binary?

[@DrMcFly28]

I have absolutely no issues with a non-binary character in a fantasy game. I have issues with them "educating" me through video-game cutscenes. There's a difference between a character simply *being* something and a character forcing everything and everyone to revolve around them being that something.

[@zehrudindulic3301]

Burn the witch

[@SwordWieldingDuck]

@@DrMcFly28 no, non-binary in medieval-like socity is beyond stupid.

[@themanfromthefargalaxy7656]

@AlFonso-p6p Or white people with jaguar outfit with gold bracelet jewelry. Seeing a black elf is like seeing an Orc in LotR ngl

[@Erzkreutz]

who would have thought that my videogame addiction will be cured by... videogames.

[@randomcenturion7264]

Yeah they are saving us a lot of money. Kinda like how Bud Light probably helped a lot of people quit beer

[@carlfrancisco2306]

Want to get back to it? Let me present you, Metaphor Refantazio.

[@SuicidalSummerSnowWoman]

​@@randomcenturion7264 not really... it just made them quit bud light... there are other brands they can still buy

[@quatreraberbawinner2628]

We can use this, we just have to find a way to make crack cocaine woke and preachy and we'll have solve the crack epidemic

[@krypto7653]

It's sad because I loved the DA series, basically grew up playing it, I have every single Dragon Age game in my collection along with the Dawn Seeker movie...... But I'll not be getting this filth

[@ignacius8466]

I had absolutely no expectations and yet I'm still disappointed.

[@havitins419]

I’m not, I expected this. Any game hyped by IGN and company is sure to be just like this pile of shit

[@KneelB4Bacon]

I didn't buy this game or play and yet I still want my money back.

[@Alvaro89Rus]

well said. I mean this... still has Dragon Age written on it. It hurts

[@dizzlegrizzle1919]

Except you are all just plain dumb. Have put 20 hours into the game and it is straight up god of war meets dragon age. its combat is hella fun. ALSO since you guys are talking about cherry picked scenes and DEI and you all have clearly not played... the trans options are OPTIONAL and unlocked through a mirror in the room. you will see ZERO of it in your game unless you actually CHOOSE to see it! lmao. you people are so mad at nothing. drinker has always been racist and sexist so it does not suprise me to see this video. He panders to the most angry, toxic, and insecure people in existence. anyway... thats all I have for now.. back to enjoying the game cuz its actually fun.

[@Tara-lz3uj]

Haha yes same

[@elitronprime7322]

Bye bye BioWare’s skinsuit. It was nice knowing you

[@WingedHussarJG]

Get woke, go broke.

[@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV]

Do people still believe bioware was same people who make a dragon age 1, masseffect 2 etc? Now its just a worthless name. And names doesnt matter nothing without people who know what they doing.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Bioware --> Byeware

[@TheDarthwario]

Exactly.

[@alemswazzu]

It puts the trans flag on or it gets the hose again.

[@Bobzonthejob]

"When I think of the battles I've fought… the thousands I've killed… the worlds I've burned… I weep for my past." -Canderous Ordo, Knights of the Old Republic, by Bioware. Before the dark times...

[@tylerkrusemark9191]

Back when you actually had to have good writers for people to want to buy your game. I often skip through dialogue in a lot of RPGs lately because I can't be bothered to try to immerse myself in this hot garbage.

[@awesomehpt8938]

When I play a game I want to be entertained. I don’t want to be lectured endlessly!

[@AretaicGames]

Yeah, if I'd wanted to be nagged all the time, I would've stayed married.

[@MartinOReilly-mb4um]

As with most normal people.

[@ulabula1680]

You're normal mate, congratulations!

[@FireCrack83]

nope not allowed in 2024.

[@nikolaninkov]

Congratulations, you are now a bigot! How dare you refuse a lecture on the message?!

[@abiv23]

Dragon Age Origins is amazing, they should really make a sequel some day

[@Null_Experis]

They did, it's a DLC called "Awakening". You should check it out.

[@akivahirsch4343]

​@@Null_Experisit's done well

[@paulbennett2284]

@@Null_Experisunfortunately it’s the only DA that’s not back-compatible on Xbox!

[@philipmartin6924]

Sorry Brother it is backwards compatible. Playing on my Series X now​@@paulbennett2284

[@negx3933]

They did. It’s called Divinity Original Sin and Divinity Original Sin 2

[@_Devil]

I saw someone on Steam call this game "Dragqueen Age" lmao

[@marcogenovesi8570]

yeah it's Dragqueen Age the Gayguard

[@External2737]

Well said. This is "DragonQueen". No need for a long title. Simple, DragonQueen. Not for me. I hope they enjoy their modern audience.

[@avalonjustin]

@@External2737 No, DragonQueen implies a biologically female dragon. "Dragqueen" implies trans which is accurate for the game.

[@gratefulguy4130]

Well it looks like DEI of Thieves: The Mobile RPG

[@Cormano980]

Drag on Age

[@Themooman29]

I believe BG3 showed everyone that most people really don’t give a fuck if you’re gay or not or somewhere in between. Just make a good fucking game with good characters and good combat and literally everything else falls into place.

[@gamersinger5118]

Themooman29 lol. BG3 is not an example of a great RPG. Not even close. Not even a great game with all the problems and pathetic writing. Baldur’s Gate 1 & 2 was great though

[@Themooman29]

@ uhhhhh what?? BG3 is a nearly accepted great game and setting the standard of what a good modern game should be. Are you okay?

[@ojtanaka]

dont use bg3 as an example dude gale has gay raped millions

[@foxanard]

No, it didn't show anything. It's just that there's literally only one notable gay couple in the game, and there's a mod that reworks even that garbage. It's not comparable.

[@seallop6707]

BG3 is not a bad game but it does have many issues. Especially with writting. I played it and I can definetely say that many of our companions are plain as hell. They lack depth. And I will never forgive what they did to Ketheric Thorm. My dude had such an interesting story only for a girlboss lesbian to crack his dead body's skull like an animal (let's not forget that she is a daughter of a literal Goddess and for someone so holy she should not act like an angry freaking ogre). And then instead of talking with Shadowheart about her true background she literally says "Im going to have sex with my gf don't bother me" I had fun playing BG3 but it has so many issues that ruin immersion...I don't care about gay stuff if it looks great. But most of the time it's on screen it seems like a caricature of what real gay people look like DA:O did it the best. I loved it. It's real. It's so freaking good.

[@HammerHeart3229]

''I could kiss you right now... I'm GOING to kiss you right now.'' 🤦‍♂ That dialogue and the way it was delivered makes the dialogue between Anakin and Padme in the prequels look like Shakespeare.

[@MegacoreTeamJake]

I could kiss sand right now, I'm going to kiss sand right now

[@SimSimma.]

It's like when it's my GF's turn to pick a movie on Netflix 🤢

[@eneco3965]

Except the prequels are good

[@nottomclancy2439]

@@SimSimma. AHAHAHAHA too fucking relatable mate - last movie she picked was the Joker 2. I almost started screaming in the theatre. It's a miracle I didn't walk out after 20 minutes.

[@mramisuzuki6962]

Yea fuck sand.

[@teh_durgenburn4968]

Imagine you are a poor farmer who lost their home in a massive disaster and your supposed hero’s are just sitting in a group therapy session talking about how to apologize for misgendering one of the members.

[@CordellPotts]

Sadly, it does mirror our reality in its current state.... Utterly Wiitawdid.

[@jomp6141]

XDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@thepaintjobber]

Imagine they start lecturing that poor farmer about misgendering as well

[@superploc]

iHeroes: I CANNOT SAVE YOU! i CAN´T EVEN SAVE MYSELF! *SO JUST SAVE YOURSELF!*

[@xavierhouston4650]

*for correctly gendering one of the members that are too pussy to handle what’s in their pants.

[@Lackadaisicl]

"I'm identifying as non-buynary" -unknown "Every interaction is as if HR is in the room" -SkillUp My two favorite comments I've seen so far

[@ashleyg2610]

Stole the HR line from skillup, disappointed at that, the game is shite enough to not need you grifting points off other people

[@capndallas4918]

​@@ashleyg2610he didn't say it was his comment. He said it was the best comment he'd heard so far.

[@greenwendal5056]

Every large corporate entity is like this now. Hurry up asteroid.

[@havocgr1976]

Another great one was "these downtown LA people think push ups and exercise is a punishment" ;p

[@voidrunner-616]

Some guy above said he heard it called DragQueen Age, another one for the list lmao

[@CaptainGrackle]

Me: "Oh boy, the return of the dialog wheel! What sort of interactions and drama with my team await?“ Dialog choices: 1) agree 2) jokingly agree 3) seriously agree

[@adrenjones9301]

You forgot about "disagree, but I'm doing it anyway."

[@VasilCvetkovski]

From the company that got famous with KOTOR where you could help racist kids beat an alien to death after dooming the poor of an entire planet by selling a cure to a drug lord. Being able to be bad is what made choosing to be good satisfying.

[@patbluetree4636]

They lost the plot.

[@anderslundtoft2315]

You are Sharp on point! I have the game and its the vuggestue railroad, but with no good lore, no excitment in the dialog or the combat. Its the same for the rest of the game

[@BobExcalibur]

If you never have the option of being a huge bastard, how do you know if you're even decent?

[@cybertramon0012]

Or even in this series alone, you could side with werewolves, create golems from people, wipe out the Circle, or desecrate the ashes of Andraste. And these actions could lead to your party members fighting you or just abandoning you. But now you can't even call somebody a fool, or be at odds with your party members.

[@TheT0nedude]

​​​@@patbluetree4636no, they lost their staff, all that is left is the name. Modern Bioware has no relevance in any way, shape or form to the classic Bioware of old ....it's a very common misconception, it happened with the Diablo franchise and Blizzard, this ignorance annoys the shit out of me.

[@Arko777777]

Remember when in DA: Origins you could: - kill Mabari dog straight away instead of saving him, - kill a child possessed by demon while knocking his mother unconscious so she wouldn't interfere, - kill a knight by giving her a poison for her coughing, - kill bunch of mage children and their elder guardian in the Circle's tower, - kill bunch of elves while siding with the werewolves, - let a demon take over little girl's body and take her place, - ally with the man that almost doomed the nation to fall and betrayed his king, - be as evil and obnoxious as possible. Good times.

[@Null_Experis]

Turning Loghain into a Warden isn't "ally" so much as "lifelong servitude and certain death defending against the threat you are responsible for allowing" becomes the punishment for his crime instead of just being beheaded. Hot take, but Alistair is better as a hardened king, and Loghain's sentence as a warden makes the world a better place.

[@SPTX.]

You can also be as obnoxious as possible in this one. They even improved on the formula by making every single dialogue option like that.

[@Arko777777]

@@Null_Experis Agreed. Fair take.

[@disregard7275]

@Null_Experis Honestly that was probably my favorite ending choice of the bunch. Loghain being forced to have to take the test to be a Warden then having him take the killing blow to sacrifice himself as a way of punishment but also giving him the 'redemption' for his murder of the king. Alistar as king was always my choice aswell

[@aeonise]

I never did a particularly evil run of DA:O (my first was definitely of a ruthless "defeat the Blight at ALL costs" nature, though), but an overtly evil playthrough of ES4:Oblivion was one of my most memorable. I started describing my character as "extra special evil" for finding new and inventive ways of being a monster. It was tremendous fun pretending to be something I'm not. Fast-forward a couple decades, and devs like this now are hyper-focused on only letting you be things _they_ approve of.

[@yufeng1707]

-Isabella doesn't apologize to Tash's directly -Makes a speech about how some half-assed apologies are insincere because it makes the apology about themselves -Makes the apology about herself -Does only 5 out of 10 half-assed pushups Seems exactly like what wokies do.

[@garethbattersby]

My favourite line from that is "It makes you work, makes you sweat" You sweat from 5 push ups? Im an unfit middle aged man and I wouldnt even be out of breath with 5 arse up push ups... maybe this warrior isnt who you want going into battle

[@l0singzanity1]

Man, Isabella being a wench in the previous games had more dignity than what she's doing in this scene.

[@cloudcollector83]

Also, Isabella of all characters is the one giving a lecture. ISABELLA. A murdering pirate and slave trader, that one character that couldn't care less about others.

[@SampoSaarela]

​@@cloudcollector83 I was thinking exactly this. What the fuck? If someone would dare to hint that Isabella mia gendered someone, she wouldn't even know what the fuck that means, and secondly she probably would just outright murder the person insulting her.

[@vane909090]

The real Isabela would mock and ridicule this clown who's wearing her skin suit.

[@nasis18]

They went full Ubisoft. Never go full Ubisoft.

[@retroverdrive]

I legit thought this game was a parody.

[@DiogenesTheCynic.]

It is a parody, Bioware just doesn't think it is

[@bagggers9796]

@@DiogenesTheCynic. Oh, they know damn well it's a parody. They're just not gonna admit that publicly as not to offend the ABC's.

[@jeffjwatts]

"I legit thought this game was a parody." When I first saw the misgender push up scene I thought it was fake. It's still hard to believe that the scene is in the game.

[@Acoto]

They dont want friends, they want worshippers. They abused my empathy and now I'm all out of tolerance.

[@Rogue-ish-k2h]

preach it

[@DraculaCronqvist]

And *that* is how you breed extremism. Because people bite the hand that feeds them. They take advantage of kindness and abuse it, strain it to the point of breaking it.

[@Tecolote41]

True

[@taags]

I only have intolerance for those people.

[@ladygamer9880]

Truer words have never been spoken!

[@camma12]

I'm surprised the other charater didn't say "I consent" in that kissing scene 😂

[@marcogenovesi8570]

the man does not need to consent, only women

[@camma12]

@@marcogenovesi8570 how do you know he's a man? 🤣

[@s1nnocense]

it's technically rape, isn't it?

[@BearPawSwipe]

@@marcogenovesi8570 I was going to say the same thing.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@camma12 I have experience with beta males

[@Smellslikegelfling]

That line she said about another character looking just as good out of his pants was straight put of one of Chris Chan's Sonichu comics.

[@JamesEDonaldson]

"To create something as safe and un-offensive as possible" Then why do I always find it violently jarring and offensive, then? XD

[@V742]

Because YOUR opinion doesn't matter to them

[@enzo_m_niac]

@@V742 Stop being a snowflake. Noone cares about YOUR opinion.

[@Ally-kv3om]

maybe because youre the actual snowflake

[@compman12345]

Yeah, this people just want to be circle jerking each other. If you are not positive they just go with "thankfully your opinion doesnt matter"

[@juliuscomnenus4415]

It's the constant therapyspeak. You can tell the authors spend their entire life either in session or on Reddit & Tumblr.

[@StickyBuns1390]

The slow-motion 'Fuck' from Geralt is getting plenty of mileage this year.

[@m4nt1c0r3s]

Its gonna be needed plenty for Witcher 4, when they replace him with a woman(or some aphabet soup), or worse, have him along as a side character just to pull some references in the marketing but have him being scolded and berated and apologizing about his "problematic ways" the whole thing.

[@GemmaLB]

@@m4nt1c0r3s When they replace him with a differently abled they/them of color.

[@isaacwest276]

It's just tragic. I grew up and live near Edmonton, where Bioware is based. Bioware was spoken with pride around here, and for the last year I've been playing through their classics for the first time; and to see this, how far a great local company I love has fallen... wow.

[@willprot6752]

It's utterly bizarre how willing we are to accept and engage in art from people who openly admit they hate us

[@rockmegently]

Yep. All politics aside, that is the saddest part of all about this game.

[@TearsInReign]

Most people just go along with it because speaking out against the rainbow mafia can cause you to lose your job. That's how we end up with this slip in the first place. If an outspoken DEI hire rainbow member has a "great idea" for a game and a straight white male vehemently disagrees, he's painting a target on his back

[@inendlesspain4724]

That's because gamers historically had the poorest impulse control over their spending habits out of fans of any medium, that's the reason micro-transactions and many, many other predatory practices took off as much as they did. It's gotten a bit better lately, but it feels like gamers had to change out of necessity.

[@EvilijoUK]

@@inendlesspain4724 Tell that to people who are willing to spend literal thousands to watch a concert of their favourite band, better still buying from scalpers because the demand outstrips supply lol

[@jaredweiman2987]

Speak for yourself. I'm not playing this game.

[@CanadaPlus]

How do I unlock the modern audience skill tree that allows me to cancel an enemy for misgendering me during combat?

[@SaleBrutale]

That skill tree is actually secretly locked, you can unlock it by dyeing the character's hair purple at the character creation screen.

[@ashleygoggs5679]

Bioware should have added a skill to the qunari character labelled cancel and she just screams at the target.

[@jackyjackson604]

Go play Dustborn..... They really have cancel as a skill.. 😂

[@VasilCvetkovski]

@@jackyjackson604 I'm sure he knows with that comment.

[@bobsmith-wu2go]

Thats a passive skill you get at lvl1.

[@StrikerEureka85]

i'm surprised she didn't ask: "do i have your consent to kiss you?"

[@hoppa_2184]

I think she didn't because she told him beforehand that she would kiss him. And as he didn't deny her after a short waiting period, consent was given...or something silly like that. xD

[@RM_VFX]

Nope, implied consent doesn't count. Enthusiastic consent is required. At least, that's the rule when the initiator is a hetero guy.

[@Brolly5]

The way this shit is going, one day someone will complain that an NPC didn't consent to being killed.

[@darrents44]

🤣😂🤣😂

[@MADvocate7]

​​@@RM_VFXliterally, I agree. She sexually assaulted bro who was too traumatised to respond because these dipshits would make the same claims with role reversal irl.

[@kri249]

The only thing missing from those scenes with dialogue is the Starbucks logo in the background.

[@Enkibebidas]

These LGBT DEI games saved me money, and also made me appreciate other games I hadn't given a chance before.

[@mravg79]

You can also think about it in a different way instead of risking your hard earn money on one new release 60/70$, you can instead take this amount of money and spent it on older, smaller games and get from 3 to 5 of them. Same money spent more fun. Whatever suits you. In my case I look more at my backlog pick the game I want to play, it does not to be great a good one I will enjoy is enough. Which means I reduced my spending on gaming, but at the same time by backlog is still growing (as from time to time I cannot skip a good deal on a game when it is being sold for bargain bin price).

[@liftedguy]

Give space marine 2 a try

[@schreursalain2968]

As long as a game doesn't have an over the top accept-everything-we-say politically correct message vomited upon me, i'm good with other games. Seems to me that a LOT of gamestudios are getting their asses handed to them, and to be quite honest, they deserve to be put out of business for pushing their agenda's down our throats. And it's not just their message, it's their shitty design, their crap storyline, the awful dialogue, the horrendous combat,...and the list goes on, that makes their games total dogshit. When i look at the older games in my library, these "new" games amount to 5% of their quality in every aspect. The graphics engine might have changed/improved, but that's nullified by all the rest.

[@SStoj]

Tbh even the old Dragon Age games had plenty of LGBT characters, but they were good characters that just happened to be LGBT and didn't make that their whole personality. If you're a long time Bioware fan, you shouldn't be against diversity or inclusion in their game because they've been doing that for a long time, but the difference is they used to do that with really well written and well rounded characters that were more than just a sexuality. That's what's missing here, not the fact that this is present.

[@lonew872]

Recycled jokes

[@beowulfsrevenge4369]

So the final nail in Biowares coffin, that's mostly nails now, will be Dragon Age; Failguard.

[@darthkek1953]

Dragqueen Age : Failguard

[@tempoaccla4041]

mass effect 4 that will be the dirt

[@fordy2697]

There already was a Mass Effect 4. You weren't far off. ​@tempoaccla4041

[@creiGnn]

Apparently Veilguard beat Jedi Survivor as the biggest opening EA single player game on Steam according to a Forbes article. Steam reviews seem to be generally positive as well. Don’t get me wrong tho, my heart sinks a little bit every time I see someone such as Corinne Busche as the game director but it is what it is. This game won’t be a failure it seems. What saddens me most though is there are glimpses of a good game hidden inside this parody unfortunately. I hate that this wokeness plague corrupting everything it touches.

[@googlesucks1]

I'm sure we'll get to see the Mass Effect franchise briefly resurrected to burn it to death and piss on the ashes as a finale.

[@KruxSmash]

Game feels like it was written by a bunch of confused teenagers that grew up without a father.

[@emanueljanda9591]

yea, grew up with 2 mothers.

[@ashocck8065]

On the contrary. They had multiple fathers. Lenin, Stalin, Mao.

[@fomobull4187]

Plot twist: it was.

[@Mohnatchenko]

@@ashocck8065 Ultra-capitalist corporation like EA is making every studio it owns to read Lenin and Stalin. It is known.

[@M_and_M-y5k]

Oh, come *on,* now. That's offensive to teens who grew up without fathers.

[@robertmochel6798]

A friend of I have who is female said and I am quoting her. "I was looking forward to make a character like I did in the last Dragon Age a female mage that hated the world but is very hot will big pillows the person I am romancing can rest their head on, and a tight bun. This thing will not let me make a female with pillows that are smaller than I was at 12." She also did not like the combat or story.

[@Osgorion]

When life gives you melons, the new bioware gives you lemons.

[@svdrevolver5109]

Whatever Solas was doing i'm supporting him now

[@ravenseptimus3108]

He tried to stop the game from being released. Unfortunately, he failed.

[@Uzarran]

Is it too late for someone to mod in an option to help him in Trespasser?

[@tskwerl]

He wanted to tear down the veil and restore the elven world of old. He didn't care that it might destroy the physical world, though he was sympathetic if you become friends with him and learn to see his points of view. Now, I wish we'd helped him.

[@allankilic]

And Solas was probably non-binary. XD

[@fabianthecownip]

@@ravenseptimus3108 Corporate disliked his attempted coup so badly that they removed his name from the game's title: d̶r̶e̶a̶d̶ w̶o̶l̶f̶

[@mchammer5592]

“Let me talk to your manager” *your companion approves*

[@qpraulitoqp]

Mental health issues are rampant in this country

[@GargantuanD]

This is the result of a generation of far left indoctrination

[@xavierhouston4650]

And if you talk about fixing it instead of affirming it, you’re the bad guy🤪

[@foxanard]

That's what happens when you forbid to fix them, and stop treating a mental health issue as an issue in the first place…

[@Avenger127]

We need to reject it harder, because society is weak. And is accepting this nonsense

[@HowToChangeName]

Dont insult mental health issue, they arent us

[@coast2coast-295]

Fantasy Escapism: Gandalf: YOU SHALL NOT MISGENDER MEEEE!!!

[@grundypeebo]

the biggest waste is not having a "negative" dialogue option. I want to be able to tell them "i dont care" or "shut up" if they go on about their identity

[@YuokoII]

Sorry, in their world you are not supposed to have your own opinion.

[@Shadowclaw25]

u cant say that Misty XXD may do u look good today XXXXXXXXXXXXXD

[@emPIEror]

I assume one mean word/not caring about their 'injustice' would make them jump from the highest window

[@MrSheduur]

yeah lol, even the bottom one is still usually agreement, just with a bit more of a stern approach. Been playing this for 10 hours or so and while there are moments in it that are good, most of the game simply floats along and is completely forgettable. the companion quests especially... where youre supposed to get to know more about them, it all feels totally pointless and it is the first Dragon Age game where I really do not want to do ANY sidequest, and simply went straight into only doing the main quest and that is it.

[@xekis]

They are definitely women. She went to do 10 pushups and ended up doing only 4. Nobody in the room was able to count that high. And the whole thing was to draw attention to herself while pretending not to draw attention to herself.

[@Acoto]

Virtue signaling is an "ally's" favorite pass time

[@Stewy_792]

Fr

[@RedeemerBlood]

If the western education system actually cared about 'educating' rather than worrying about what gender the kids identify as, maybe they would be able to count past 4.

[@Vercingetorix421]

But at least it shows that they have heard of push-ups, even if they never could do more than one.

[@cheesefondont1579]

Isabella used to be a fun character... Now they've turned her into an insufferable virtue signaller who makes things all about her.

[@SeriesofClu]

1:31 Everyone’s collective reaction to that cutscene

[@GeraltofRivia22]

That reaction clip will never got old

[@SeriesofClu]

@@GeraltofRivia22 It’s simply perfect

[@crimsonlight4205]

Worst part is that’s not even how Harding acted in inquisition when you romanced her

[@tomoakley760]

"I'm going to kiss you right now" Woah now, she didn't get enthusiastic consent, can we loop HR into this? I feel very unsafe and micro-aggressed.

[@3adgamd3r]

I’d pay someone to mod in a mass effect Renegade interrupt where Rook just gives her a solid right hook and after she drops just screams “lack of consent isn’t consent!!!” And then runs away, it’d fit the theme of the game and would genuinely be funnier than any of the jokes they try to tell

[@dangelini1137]

Clearly written by some tr@nny, in his head this is how females act and talk.

[@math2222322]

Dragon age origins was a masterpiece in writing. How did we fall so low

[@randomcenturion7264]

DEI

[@simonhadley6965]

different team, all the good ppl left :(

[@jacklarsen4]

Old writers retired. Maybe there are good writers in the world age 30 and under but i havent seen it.

[@darthtrayus6066]

Current year politics.

[@johnarcher6150]

Tolerating the slide in quality and ignoring when original team members get rolled out. Next question.

[@ColonelCorson]

As someone who played every Dragon Age game and even all the DLCs, even the subpar ones, this isn't Dragon Age. This is just modern audience slop masquerading around in a Dragon Age costume, which is fitting since it was released on Halloween.

[@Edd25164605]

D.E.I Destruction of Established IP

[@Caratacus1]

I couldn't have possibly imagined when I was swept away by Dragon Age Origins that this travesty was waiting down the line...

[@BonesinMeat]

Like a wolf in sheep's clothing but it's actually a malnourished coyote wearing a wolf fur suit

[@VioletDeathRei]

It got worse game after game even by Inquisition they had some of this stuff in the background a good decade before it became the current thing.... As a huge Dragon Age and Mass Effect fan, I hope they never make a game again, honestly....

[@mrwolf9907]

They’ve been pretty consistent with making each sequel significantly worse. I expected this.

[@adrenjones9301]

​@@mrwolf9907They are very consistent. DAO 9/10 DA2 7/10 DAI 5/10 DAVG 3/10

[@ajax803]

I remember that time I was in the army and I offended my buddy so I did push-ups. Wait, that was my drill sergeant. And he wasn't offended.

[@Acoto]

Its not that different, these people are trying to train you except its not to serve a country its to serve them.

[@billjacobs521]

@@Acoto Except I was told, on good authority, that working out is a gateway to white supremacy.

[@tungzauzage977]

I 'm so confused with woke conversation if I just close my eyes and start punching it all goes away right.

[@HowToChangeName]

You know my favorite part is when one of them said "Appaling. They'll hire anyone these days" unironically in almost self aware tone.

[@bradeki2997]

I'm sorry to say, but I don't think they realized the irony of that statement.

[@gee355Art]

Oh dear, looks like I’ll be replaying Inquisition again at this rate…

[@rhouck8407]

I watched a black man stream this and he was appalled at how white men were portrayed in the first hours of this game. I watched a woman stream this game and she was infuriated at the character creator being incapable of making an actual woman. I watched a trans man stream this game and watched him pause the stream because he cringed so hard at how trans identity was handled. He was the target demographic and he hated it. I watched a gamer stream it on nightmare difficulty. He had to pause and prove to his audience multiple times that it was as challenging as he could possibly make it. And I watched one of my favorite IPs go down in flames.

[@pete531]

its not about any of these people or groups, its about destroying a nuclear family

[@TheSandChris]

Your comment should be classified as poetry

[@edgaraf9411]

Those don't really mean anything

[@edgaraf9411]

​@@pete531😂😂you guys are delusional. Gays =/= destroying the nuclear family

[@xavierhouston4650]

Third one is basically evil against evil. Also, she will never be my gender.

[@TheBucknative]

Not even trying to hide this stuff anymore....

[@MartinOReilly-mb4um]

Yep, they now have enough power. We were warned, we never listened.

[@ROForeverMan]

@@MartinOReilly-mb4um People are weak. They deserve whatever comes their way.

[@Dommie222]

​​@@MartinOReilly-mb4um no they're just going through the cornered animal phase; their DEI bullshit have been crashing and burning harder than ever lately so now they're lashing out at everyone and everything just to despertaly try and survive for a few moments more...

[@phantombigboss8429]

@@MartinOReilly-mb4umget over it.

[@cr4sher]

Fucking gloating at this point. Infiltrated our most beloved IPs and turned them into re education tools for your children in both video games and movies. Be careful.

[@chrism3790]

The ultimate narcissist fantasy: having others willingly punish themselves whenever they mistakenly address you without using your special words.

[@Rogue-ish-k2h]

because everyone needs to be special with quick grab labels and hollow identities over actually developing interests and passions and forming one the hard way lol

[@SpaceJawa]

And absolutely nobody refuses to play along.

[@Saphels]

@@chrism3790 sounds like monarchy when you used wrong title or no title at all.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

It's all about power.

[@bunnieskitties293]

I cant rewatch the scene. Does the It/Them freak even respond in the scene? or do they just watch Isabel, the token stand in for a 'Normie trying to join the cult of victimhood troons' try to make amends wordlessly?

[@nothinginteresting4152]

i feel like DAI ironically handled LGBTQ representation so much better than veilguard. We had characters that were gay, lesbian, and trans and they felt natural to the setting and the themes were handled with so much care, this feels like such a letdown in comparison

[@Muircetach]

DAI was still a sincere, centered game that was genuinely curious about Thedas and its people. Remember Dorian discussing the socioeconomic merits of Tevinter slavery? It managed to discuss it without endorsing it. You can go from being a flat atheist to a fervent believer and all viewpoints are entertained. Iron Bull managed to bring BDSM to attention without hammering it into you. Krem was transgender but does not talk about it at length unless you ask him specifically about it. DAI was still a world where things happen because it's a living, breathing world where people interact, people come up with ways to navigate the he-said she-said mess of Thedosian history, and all groups acted according to their own value systems, with the only judgement being cause and effect. and now we don't have DAI, we have DEI, a wilful attempt to use a creative license to hammer an agenda into people. There is no desire to explore the setting, there's only a desire to impose upon it.

[@sean8102]

It did. Saw a excerpt of some review mentioning that. But they were crying saying the representation in that game was basically "half assed" because Bioware took the time to make up terms for things like being trans in that chars culture (been a while so I don't remember their name), so ya know world building etc. instead of awkwardly ham fisting in terms like "non binary" into the dialogue like this one. And that one char, I just call Trash because I can't remember the real name and because it's far more fitting, has to be one of the least likeable chars in a video game. And that's just from the clips I've seen of cutscenes in other videos. The fact the writers can't see that chars like Trash that are SO grating like that do transgender people no favors, and gives them some of the worst representation possible is hilarious to me.

[@kingvega666]

Who cares, keep the woke shit out of games. 99% of people aren’t insane and don’t give a shit about the stupid “agenda”

[@glados4765]

I remember my great grandmother telling me that our viking ancestor warriors would all make sure the villages they raided were never misgendered and non binary denizens were deeply respected for their stunning bravery.

[@brndnwilks]

The first Dragon Age: One dude dies from drinking Demon blood in the opening stage, another gets gutted and never sees his family again because he refuses to drink. Dragon Age Veilguard: "I misgendered. Time to pull a bArVe!"

[@designationab-3624]

Jory die'd for this?

[@Gorbz]

​@@designationab-3624 No, he DEI'd for this. 😜

[@Fr0st1989]

he drank darkspawn blood, but your point still stands

[@brndnwilks]

@@Fr0st1989 That's correct. It's been a while.

[@roguefenixC55]

I remember in mass effect 3 when Cortez told me he had a husband, I'd never heard a video game character say it before, but it wasnt forced, it wasnt out of nowhere, and it wasnt preachy, and most importantly, Cortez had a personality beyond the fact he was gay, which is why i was so caught off guard. Thats how you write a character, their sexual orientation should be a footnote, not their only feature

[@mr.s9783]

I rolled my eyes but it wasn’t disruptive to the plot.

[@iSTEFIXi]

The best part is he can die unlike every other fg in games

[@pearsemolloy9656]

Cortez was such a bro and I liked that he never tried coming onto you in case you weren’t into that it had to be you that made the first move

[@billjacobs521]

I agree, although the last recording of his husband was pretty damn cringe.

[@brianpeppers7455]

As long as the game is good, the brainwashing is fine. You people are lost.

[@Gorbz]

"I'm going to kiss you right now" has the same energy as "I just moved stuff with my freaking mind"

[@tylersmith9942]

The color in their outfits make them look more like the Fantasy Avengers than a medieval party

[@garytwinem5275]

I kmow, they should be wearing greasy chainmail and battered leather armor, not Mardis Gras outfits.

[@roundninja]

@@garytwinem5275 I mean they definitely did have bright clothes in medieval times, if you look at real medieval paintings and stuff they're usually wearing brighter colors than in pseudo-medieval movies and games. But yeah the clothes in this game aren't great either, a lot of the materials look synthetic, too smooth and shiny.

[@radekbejbl1]

Dragon Age: Origins of THE message😂😂😂

[@drxym]

I don't even understand why trans would even be a thing in these games. This is a world filled with magic where people can cast spells and turn themselves into frigging bears, or invisible and god knows what. Yet removing a dong or growing some boobs or full-on changing sex isn't just a spell away? It's just dumb writing. If they wanted to have a trans character they could just say "oh yes I grew up a boy but I went to a magecaster who turned me into a woman and now I have a husband and 3 children" or whatever. End of story. It makes absolutely zero sense to be anything else. Same for when the devs for Hogwarts Legacy threw in a trans character in a lame attempt to appease activists - completely insane given the context.

[@propheinx2250]

In a world of magic, trans isn't an issue. When the sex change isn't just illusion magic, their isn't a social problem with it. That's something they'll likely never understand.

[@rootballer]

excellent point

[@totga1]

It's not that simple. But the sad thing is, bioware already tacled the issue, and showed support in Inqusition. Krem is a transmasc character. He opens up if you befriend him. And you can bring up the changing with magic. And because back then they knew how to write, they used it as a way to reinforce the common people's fear of magic, and why the circles originaly seemed like a good idea. Intending to protect the mages from angry mobs with pitchforks just as much as they ment to protect the common folk from them. So Krem gets upset, raises his voice and sais: "What? No! I would never let magic like that anywhere near me!!!" He is happy with his lot, he can pass, the chief and the chargers accept him, and if you did the right thing and didn't turn Cole more human ( Sorry Varic, you are the best bro, the Garrus of the series, but I'm with Solas on that one. By the way "look how they butchered my boy" Varric), he can get it on with the bard girl in the inn. All this shoes the writers' intention to be inclusive, fits in the story, and the voice acting is delivered with emotion. 10/10 storytelling. Or another exemple Dorian being gay and his father trying to use bloodmagic to change his thinking. Which isn't a trans thing, but still shoes representation can be done in a meaningfull way, that contributes to the story, or at the very least fits into the established lore. Harry Potter's magic system is wierd. It's a soft magic system where they can do whatever they want, until it's inconvinient for the story, then suddenly it turns into a hard system and there are rules. Rowling is not a good writer... In universe it is very hard to do permanent changes to someone, hence why most characters have glasses, they can't do with magic what we do with laser eye surgery. That said she was handled bad. Why wasn't there a quest where she asks us to break into the forbidden section of the library for a book that maybe contains a spell? Or why isn't she chugging polyjuice potion every hour to fight body disphoria? She just exists so they can tell they had a trans character. Either don't put in one or give her more depth. Frankly I felt more insulted then supported.

[@drxym]

@@totga1 I honestly think it is that simple. This is a FANTASY game so just imply that in this world people can change sex and do. It could be a small section of throwaway dialogue, or if the game wants to make it something more there could even a vendor in town who offers to change your appearance and sex. After you do it the other NPCs could even remark that they like your new look or whatnot. I'm not sure why Hogwarts, a childrens series of books is exempt from this either, or why we should classify it as hard or soft magic. It's fiction, so just put the conceit in. The problem is solved, becomes canon and means the game is not afflicted by a real life curse - the Sweet Baby kiss of brain death.

[@totga1]

@@drxym So, your solution to the infantile dialogue, lucklaster story, generally bad writing and disrespect to the source material (the first three games) is more bad writing and disrespect with a handwave. Sure in a new setting go ahead and establish the lore like that. In Dragon Age there is a general fear and distrust of magic. This is a very important core plotpoint. Mages until recently were locked up in circles of magis so no access to them. Big magical effect like that requires crapton of lyrium to fuel it. Lyrium strictly controlled by the Chantry. Sure you can go to the carta too, good luck on that second morgage on your hovel random peasant. The lack of lyrium acces is what prompts lots of mages to turn to blood magic. Would a mage risk getting caugth for a rando who goes to them for a sex change? Some might, probably not many. Close friends maybe. Like the inquisitor offered it to Krem. Some for monetary gain. Good luck on the third morgage. Yes, it is a possibility in Dragon Age's world, that's been already established, but it's just not that simple. Getting in a vendor selling it to anyone and sayin now it's just canon would be the same as they wrote in a bunch of bs into veilguard and now it's unfortunetly canon. We categorise things to have clear definitoins so all parties of a discussion know what we mean when we mention something. I brought it up to illustrate how messy HP's lore is and why I don't have such a ready made answer as with dragon age. Then my conclusion was that it fits into it but going by how there isn't precedence for permanent modifications it's probably not an easy thig to do. And right this moment I just remembered Nymphadora Tonks is in fact a character and she is a big deal because she is a metamorphmagus. A very rare ability someone has to born with, and can not be learned. This rarenes of such spell gave me the idea for the sidequest to look for it in the forbidden parts of the library, to give a trans character some depth instead of just shoehorning it in for the sake of having a trans character. If I'm honest handwaving in an easy to use everyday solution for a sexchange into Harry Potter lore wouldn't bother me as much as doing it with Dragon Age. Partially beacause it's already sooo messy, who cares about more inconsistency. But mostly because I like DA lore more. I would like to see it handled with more care... at this point I should write: would have liked to see it hanled with more care. Thanx Bioware!

[@joshuapatrick682]

Every class is just a mage, every companion is “essential” and every choice is meaningless, just like the Dragon Age we all grew up loving!

[@tacticalbutler1556]

I saw it had an "LGBTQ+" tag on it in the Steam store and it told me all I needed to know...

[@ladygamer9880]

EXACTLY

[@Schmidt54]

nice that they put up warnings like that, then i immediately know what not to buy :)

[@HowToChangeName]

Just need a way to exclude tags like my nh- uhh "comic".

[@havocgr1976]

Its the FIRST game I ever saw that has the tag first, before any other tag.Even Life is Strange has a "choices matter" tag first.I am not anti lgbt+ but if you put it first it sets off a lot of alarms.

[@MrPutin-e7v]

Trying to Brainwash the young as usual

[@FrawgfithAmblose]

More games should strive to be like AstroBot, no crinj and stomach churning politics or forced messaging at all, just pure fun and whimsical escapism like what made games so successful in the first place .

[@FoxyFoxlyn]

I rented that game. I had a great time playing it, and completely escaped for a weekend.

[@FrawgfithAmblose]

​@@FoxyFoxlyn You're gonna miss out on the dlc /-8

[@FoxyFoxlyn]

@FrawgfithAmblose Ewwwww.

[@emiami458]

​@@FoxyFoxlyn what's "eww" about free downloadable content?...

[@Muircetach]

The thing is Dragon Age was never about pure fun and whimsical escapism. It's always been a novel in playable form. A good Dragon Age game gives you the same satisfaction as watching a great TV show or reading a great novel - a good Dragon Age game is good literature. This is...well, whatever this is.

[@awesomehpt8938]

I’m so angry with how this game turned out. I’ve been waiting ten years for a sequel to dragon age inquisition and they come up with this? I could forgive them wasting all that time making Anthem and mass effect andromeda as long as they would eventually get back on track with Dragon Age. Instead they decided to make another abomination. FML

[@MartinOReilly-mb4um]

Best not to wait years for games any more. I don't. Then it doesn't hurt at all when yet another woke piece of trash is delivered suddenly and I can just walk away.

[@ROForeverMan]

@invictusinteractive9755 For totolitorianism.

[@VasilCvetkovski]

The literally fired or forced out everyone and hired a bunch of woke people.

[@xeroprotagonist]

Whenever a company sells out to EA the death spiral is inevitable. I'm surprised Bioware was able to keep their key employees together as long as they did but all their competent people are long gone now.

[@masha22092000r]

Same, honestly.

[@aced4fun]

that "oh ok" was perfect timing

[@thatmajestictoad]

Remember when BioWare made the Mass Effect trilogy with otherwise universally praised gameplay, dialogue choices, and unforgettable charactersb that were diverse and had their own identity that pretty much everyone enjoyed even if the characters didn't reflect who they were in the real world? Good times.

[@scottag3597]

Exactly! I still play the ME trilogy because I literally get an "itch" to see those characters again! Tali's my best girl, and Garrus is my bro.

[@billjacobs521]

Well, no, the trilogy was always flawed; gameplay in the first game was weak, the second game had a pointless plot, and the third game had one of the worst endings in video game history. Still, they were oveall decent, and better than this.

[@thatmajestictoad]

@@billjacobs521 I never claimed they were without their flaws

[@trawlerkent9101]

Just finished my annual replay of the trilogy, please don't fuck up ME5

[@ChuckPalomo]

I don't remember Mass Effect 3 being particularly well received. In fact, I remember it being a massive dumpster fire and the start of BioWare's decline.

[@exarkunn69]

Best dialogue in 2024: Dreadnought “WHERE ARE THE TRAITORS!!!?“ Titus “They are everywhere.” Gadriel “Honorable Battle Brother, join us so you may satiate your rage!” Dreadnought “Lead me to the slaughter!” Four lines had 10 times more weight, impact, and depth than “I think I’m going to kiss you”

[@drunkenastarte5243]

Courage and Honour!

[@mechagamer13]

Honorable Battle Brother, join us so you may satiate you rage!

[@exarkunn69]

@@mechagamer13 added missing line, The Emperor Provides.

[@bagggers9796]

"TRANS RIGHTS" ~ Lieutenant Titus.

[@DezaltOfTheDreg]

​@@bagggers9796Transhuman yes

[@greyd.99xsome]

They shrinked Isabella's boobs. Unforgivable.

[@Shadowclaw25]

yeah thats very Offending :P

[@greyd.99xsome]

@@Shadowclaw25 I would not say Offending... more like outrageous!

[@Shadowclaw25]

@@greyd.99xsome i cant hear that without thinking about viva la dirts Ben xD OUTRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGES !!

[@greyd.99xsome]

@@Shadowclaw25 So true! 😂

[@zacar0ni]

Batman: "WHERE ARE THEY?!?!"

[@Ivan-wm5rr]

Skill Up said it perfectly "every interaction feels like HR is in the room"

[@BobExcalibur]

Dragon Age: Origins wasn't just a game where the main party are all people with radically different temperaments, backgrounds and beliefs that frequently butt heads even late into the game, but in the macro scale it was a story about learning the state of a whole country of really dissimilar peoples. Every province had factional conflict with different justifications behind their deeds, and most of them had justified grievances causing the tension. Those where the morals were more obvious, the game tempted you to take easier paths by favouring the more obviously corrupt faction. Good deeds meant something. Moreover your motives were to unify the fractured lands to a mutual goal. Nothing so optimistic as an enduring peace, but just enough cohesion to defeat a threat that could wipe out everyone. You could justify being pragmatically cruel, and be internally justified in doing so. There were few cozy solutions, everything had fangs. The greatest victories were bittersweet. What a great game.

[@sean8102]

To bad the writer, gameplay designer etc of that game (and pretty much all the good old Bioware games) left the studio years ago.

[@BobExcalibur]

@@sean8102 And Gaider is an annoying lefty twat as well, but understood how to craft a good story and get the most out of his colleagues at the time. Shame he's caved into shilling for Failguard, but not unexpected.

[@reaversix2798]

Huge Dragon age fan here and I can't wait to miss this!

[@brockdavid]

“Where has this been all my life, I wish it was still there.” -The Long (paraphrased)

[@sebastianandersson7708]

This game does a great job at getting fantasy RPG fans to replay Baldurs Gate 3

[@RvBChurch]

Yep time to make a Durge run to get the frustration out of me

[@micturner8193]

Meh... that game suffers from too-many-main-characters syndrome. I suggest a playthrough of Wrath of the Righteous.

[@AlexLionson]

Yeah. The dialog quality, the acting is incomparable, in BG 3 it's perfect, spotless, you believe every word even if is insane. In Veilguard you just cringe and feel pain all the time. A bunch of toddler sheltered kids tried to make a story about people and situations they have no idea about. 0 experience with real world SHOWS.

[@trymv1578]

There are as many BG3 players on steam right this moment as there are DAV players lmao.

[@Alvaro89Rus]

Baldur's Gate not so perfect either.

[@bennyalves550]

Thanks for articulating this so well. Leave the message out of my moment of escapism ❤

[@WoWSpartacus]

I've always wanted to play a fantasy game where nobody has any idea what their gender is.

[@pipwolverine]

Yeah, we already have real life for that 💀

[@xavierhouston4650]

“What bedevils thee for thou dost not know what lingers within thine breeches?”

[@pistolbobcat420]

Remember when gaming was just this niche hobby all of us, boys, girls, men and women enjoyed together all the time because of the top notch quality, no concern about microtransactions, no broken glitchy mess on release day, no pondering if it’s going to be woke or sabotaged by wokesters and you only had to wait like 2-3 years for the sequel? Good times

[@adamsagov1058]

Feels like ages ago

[@henryjenkins2839]

I miss those times… Everything was so much better back then.

[@Zuwze]

The reason is normies, it's always the normies.

[@odyssey2412]

How did they mess this up? Even Baldur's Gate 3, which wasn't exactly subtle about its political ideologies, was a great game because the characters behaved like actual people and the story was a banger. This game has about as much personality variation as the gnomes in my backyard. And they have more.

[@cian239]

I mean if you bought that woke Baldur’s Gate you really shouldn’t be bothered with anything in DA, so not sure what you’re trying to say.

[@ALeCoq112]

@@cian239 What was so woke about Baldurs Gate?

[@cian239]

@@ALeCoq112 every companion is bisexual, female companions are desexualized whole males arent, no gender in character creator, completely diverse as modern LA, tieflings and demons are presented as moral despite being descended from literal devils, there’s drag queens and transgenders in a medieval fantasy, a literal bear romance scene. Need I say more?

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@ALeCoq112 everything? It's basically modern D&D campaign setting which are woke af. The difference is that the gameplay is good and choice trees are extensive

[@CCProductions]

@@ALeCoq112 Probably just the same sex relationships. Which were simply a part of the game and not something hammered over your head. Allowing you to role play and such. Something games like this or Life is Strange will never understand

[@MACHINArebirth]

I've been dying for a new Dragon Age for 10 years and I'm so gutted that this is what we got...

[@Allmightyimortal]

Isabella from dragon age 2 would straight up shank that imposter.

[@Turd_Rocket]

Dragon Age 2 sucked. This game sucks worse, but that doesn't suddenly improve the quality of a crap game.

[@Allmightyimortal]

@Turd_Rocket it did not suck. It was just different to origins. True i had issues with it as well but that doesn't make it bad. This conversation was had years ago during inquisition, find videos from back then to have it explained better. It will be paragraphs on paragraphs for me to explain.

[@alexloponte7056]

Impostor*

[@bunnieskitties293]

@@Turd_Rocket I liked DA2. It was a rushed game, made on short notice, but it came out pretty good if you ask me. Had a lot of good scenes in it. Combat was gratifying to learn and play out on nightmare. The mom scene was pretty touching to me.

[@Gamer2k4]

@@Turd_Rocket I feel like I liked the characters in DA2 but found the actual gameplay incredibly tedious. This is just faint memories from playing it in college, but I think I remember that instead of an open world there were just waypoints to quick-travel to that took you to long, unremarkable dungeons. Maybe my recollection is off. At any rate, I've never felt the need to go back and play it again.

[@Oktokolo]

The best writing anyone can do with HR standing right behind them and looking at their screen.

[@V1489Cygni]

You're assuming activist writers aren't on par with HR Karens these days. A woman like the one in the twitter bio in the video doesn't need any HR in order to be insuffurable.

[@Sedines]

@@V1489Cygni The "twitter bio" is a man's.

[@angel_of_rust]

my god, the HR ARE the writers

[@Tidwillshare]

0:53 "Asbestos, I can tell" unintentional description: this gives cancer.

[@McFangsworth]

Literally what I heard as he said it.

[@saturn580]

"Conversations that feel more like a therapy session for the writers than anything real people would ever say". Amen! I don't know how many more great games and films need to be ruined by incompetent, self-obsessed frauds before studios decide to start hiring writers based on merit, rather than surface traits and political conformity.

[@loop2743]

Gender: I don't care Race: I don't care Religion: I don't care Sexual orientation: I dont care Good story with well written characters and fun gameplay: aah, that's the good stuff.

[@Dram1984]

The biggest irony is that they’ve trained an entire generation of gamers to avoid games with gays, non-whites and women in them.

[@MrPutin-e7v]

I play rpg games to get away from reality’s bullshit not get more of it 😂

[@HappyH4x0r]

U forgot big tittie pirate princess

[@Dram1984]

@@loop2743 the deep irony is that they have trained a lot of gamers to avoid games that have non-white, non-straight, non-male characters. Because they know they will probably be garbage.

[@michaelle7183]

this is the way

[@kurtbarlow5408]

These game companies are addicted to losing money 😂

[@jackjustice7162]

Plenty of more where that came from. (Blackrock probably)

[@edgaraf9411]

Sales are good though no?

[@kurtbarlow5408]

@ no idea tbh I’d be surprised if it did as well as they’d hoped though

[@Milo_Estobar]

@@jackjustice7162 When people open grandiose shop with no sale, 100% its money laundering

[@leonardodavi2695]

The lines that these characters say to each other (and the delivery of said lines) cannot even be considered dialogue, it's a sermon. They are not having a conversation with each other, they are lecturing the gamer.

[@deogenes07]

How did they go from "Maker's breath, you're beautiful" to " I... could kiss your right now"

[@BaldGentleman]

Honestly, how can anyone genuinely like this? As a conservative, I would hate if an elf started rattling off talking points about the importance of the right to arms or something. Yes, I hate this more because the politics being pushed are so ludicrous, but I don’t want real world politics in my game, REGARDLESS of whether I agree with them or not. I just don’t get these people. Something is seriously broken in the entertainment industry.

[@FreakazoidRobots]

The biggest gaslighting they do to you is to imply that you not wanting modern day American politics in something is the same thing as pushing your own politics.

[@alexanderpapas4715]

Don't worry, I don't get it either and I'm pretty far from conservative. If you already share their beliefs then you don't need preaching to, and if someone did want to be further educated on certain subjects then a classic Tolkien-esque fantasy RPG with elves and dwarves and evil wizards seems a strange place to seek education (maybe try, I don't know, a library? Or talking to people who know about the subject?) On the flipside, if you don't share their beliefs then their bland, paint-by-committee characters and laughably sheltered world-view are hardly going to make a convert of you.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

it's the cult-like behaviour that communism and religions in general tend towards, everything must be a payload for the ideology, no exceptions

[@mace7077]

Absolutely, people fail to miss this message. Centre right here and if a bloody character started spouting the importance of prolife or Christianity in a fantasy game I would roll eyes and lose interest. Escapism is supposed to be escapism ffs, let us get the hell away from real life for a change.

[@Zathren]

I'm voting for the criminal and I'd never want to see any anti tax agenda in a video game. It's exactly as you said, I play video games to escape the real world.

[@leoncoben6983]

Currently live with a friend. Almost every conversation we have turns into an argument and we've known each other for nearly 15 years now. This is how we've always been and how we'll continue. These people in this game aren't friends, they're associates that don't want to step on any toes.

[@sean8102]

Yeah. That part about guys that are friends frequently "ripping" on each other is so true as well and I think any guy knows exactly what he means. But main point being nobody acts like the people in this game.

[@NovaXXX7]

In dragon age 2, two of the companion characters regularly wrote and published for public distribution, erotic fiction about a third companion character, and did not once apologize for doing so. It was quirky, it was transgressive, it was eminently human. It made the characters feel like they had lives and relationships outside of hanging with the main character. I can’t imagine. DAVG ever doing something like that.

[@Sedines]

Someone besides Varric wrote smut about Aveline and her husband?

[@NovaXXX7]

@ Isabella co-authored.

[@maninthemailbox6094]

@Sedines Yup, theres a piece of dialog in DA2 where Isabella hands Varric the part she put into one of the chapters and when Varric starts to read it out loud she suggests maybe reading it in private later lol

[@heresnegan6825]

Damn, timing is a funny thing, playing baldurs gate 3 literally the day before watching these cutscenes makes this game feel like a fever dream