Dragon Age The Veilguard Underperformed According To EA - Luke Reacts

[@Bignuke87]

EA is moving the goalposts. Theres no way they only expected 3 million sales

[@F34RDSoldier805]

They said at one point they were expecting around 10 million because Inquisition sold 12 million, so they absolutely moved the goalpost. Maybe not at launch, but at this rate, Veilgaurd won't make nearly 10 million sales in 10 years. People are already moving on from Veilgaurd, except those who were still huffing copium in the subreddit.

[@Bignuke87]

@F34RDSoldier805 imagine telling investors in an earning call that your game missed sales targets by 90%/only met 10% of expectations 😅

[@raruterofegb]

Didn't inquisition sell like 2 or 3 millions the first month or year? Lmao they didn't even reach that and never will with Veilguard

[@joshuacook6185]

I thought it was 3 million at launch (within the month). Maybe I'm wrong idk. Not defending the game btw. I loved the others but couldn't do the inclusivity

[@FredericoASousa]

That's exactly what I thought. When the news came out I was surprised they had a more or less sensible goal of 3M (obviously, it was still way off, but it was more belivable). Knowing how high AAA budgets that also have a turbulent and drawn out game development (like DV had) demand so much money to be successful, I though they were deluded and expected 10M+. So I was kinda surprised. But after thinking about it, they for sure had a goal MUC higher than 3M, but now are saying it was that because it's much better to say they missed the goal by 50% than saying they missed it buy 85%

[@casualviewer111]

Whaaat?? Nooo... impossible... who could've seen this coming?

[@nidavelliir]

Definitely not Jason Schreier

[@blairowens8912]

The fact he switched social media platforms meant this dude really believed in it. I find that insane. These people are in some crazy bubbles.

[@thefallenvalley4340]

@@nidavelliirHe owned us chuds

[@lukeyguyy]

Jason & other media people

[@kalecraft8906]

I mean people on the internet love to tell you that Veilguard isn't really that bad. It's just kinda mid but still fun, or something. They'll then accuse you of only hating the game because creators like Luke and Skillup told me to

[@SpitfireSpud]

The "engaged" as you mentioned could also be people who tried it via Game Pass or EA Play/EA Play Pro.

[@iaqh]

Iamepass doesn't even have that much peopIe to make a significant impact.

[@rodrigoferreramenezes5274]

To me, the game was afraid to be mean. Like why is so hard to be a meanie here, while i can be a complete monster in Baldur's Gate 3.

[@r.e.z9428]

I wish that was the only problem but just looks at the therapy-session writing and that you answer. It's unfair to even compare BG3 because it just makes Veilguardn look so much worse on every front.

[@dr_diddy]

​@@r.e.z9428tbf, Mass Effect 2 (which Veilguard clearly is heavily inspired from) and BG3 basically have you playing a therapist. The difference is that I can be a massive dick in one game while the other let's me straight kill my patients 😭 Karlach has trauma from her time in Avernus? a good wallop to the cranium will fix that 😭😭😭

[@terrnoisrp8894]

@@r.e.z9428BG3 need to be the new standard for RPG games, at least if you a triple A company. No one wants to pay the same price for less quality

[@caseyblankenship987]

I agree with the above who wants to play a fantasy game with cute graphics tons of purple and non binary chest scars coming out to parents. Even the warrior armor looked like it came from a fashion show. Nothing dark or gritty or manly about the game

[@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken]

@@r.e.z9428 comparing nearly anything to veilguard makes it look worse. Look at choices you can do in DA1 compared to it.

[@marron5272]

Skill up said it best “the whole game feels like HR was in the room the entire time”

[@TheMetalfreak360]

Yeah. Never heard a better way to say how this game feels like. And I think that comparison is gonna be used for more games coming out in the pipeline going forward.

[@TheGrethor]

They have essentially disneyfied Dragon Age

[@yuyeastray3541]

Remember the game also got a 40% off discount one month after its release, guess it didn’t make that much of difference.

[@xer_7438]

I thought that was a scam, so I avoided it and pretended it wasn't there.

[@GameScholarz]

Ah BioWare. How the mighty have fallen 😢

[@GothPaoki]

3 million expected copies?Is this the same company that expected 5 million copies from dead space remake??? They're absolutely on gaslighting mode.

[@RenegadeVash]

The original expected sales was actually 10 million which is more in line with typical standards. 3 million is the expected LIFETIME sales based on current sales projections over the next 5+ years. Based on estimates of cost they needed over 4 million minimum to break even. So by all metrics this game is a complete flop with loss of over $50 million dollars at the low end and potentially 100-200 million loss Luke is covering for them a bit in that department.

[@Chibicat2024]

@@RenegadeVash lol he is. The general budget was about 200+ millions (250 likely more). They were expecting vastly more than 5 million by now. I guess the chuds won again.

[@kieragard]

My guess is lying to shareholders since they're not gamers.

[@Byrvurra]

My guess is it actually sold ~600K copies. Anyways Corinne Bush was really trying to sell the idea that she left of her own accord, but this information coming out right after makes that hard to believe. At best Corinne could see the writing on the wall, and decided to get out on her own terms before everything went sideways. There's just no way DA's poor sales performance wasn't a factor in Bush's departure.

[@Brotelho2]

*he and his

[@YukDuck]

Please stop enforcing delusions by calling men “her/she”. It’s over.

[@Mookie994]

Boring game play, awful writing, awful marketing, attempts to control reviews. They did not know who is target audience so they tried to make it for old fans and to use it as a reset for settings. And it ended up being for no one. No wonder it bombed this hard.

[@TheDirtysouthfan]

1.5 Million isn't bombing that hard tbh. It's way better than SSKTJL, Concord and the other high profile failures. For all the failures of last year though, it certainly wasn't one of the worst. It had some cringy storylines, but the game ran smoothly with few bugs. You can see the team behind it still has potential, it just needed better direction.

[@Paradox-es3bl]

They didn't make it for old fans, though? That's the problem. Origins is everyone's favorite for a reason, and it's more like Snyder's BvS than "Josstice League" but they went even more Disney with this.

[@gord3588]

⁠@@TheDirtysouthfan”game had few bugs and ran smoothly” That’s kind of a low bar to set the game for. You may as well say “it boots up with no problem so already a 7/10”

[@Murbz]

The problem is that even if ME4 is a 10/10 people are going to be cautious about it because Andromeda, Anthem and now DAV. I also don't think Bioware is going to change anything after DAV. I think they're going to soldier on and hope that by doing their own thing and ignoring their fans, things will just work out.

[@Byrvurra]

Yep you're only as good as your last game. Bioware built up its reputation over years, not because of a single game, but a single game can certainly destroy that reputation, and they've put out a couple of lackluster flops already. Bioware doesn't really deserve it's old reputation anymore and should expect to be spending the next decade rebuilding a new reputation at this point. It's going to take 2-3 solid games which resonate with players to do it.

[@bigt72gmc]

This game was made by people that need therapy

[@majorgwedgie]

I think "engaged" is mostly a change in language to account for subscription players

[@TheMetalfreak360]

Yeah no doubt. They use a lot of dubious wording to be as vague as possible. Just hearing the investor calls tells you these people have no idea what people actually think. Or they gaslighted themselves to an insane degree that they believe their own farts at this point. They can just be ignoring the facts on the ground. I dunno how these people have a job tbh.

[@saidalamry125]

I still remember when luke refused to acknowledge that the game was a sales flop by looking at the steam numbers even though it was very clear. The game barley peaked at 90k while even aromred core 6 peaked at 140k and that game only sold 3m units after a year.

[@enoughisenough4-d3h]

You didn't need to look at the Steam charts to know Failguard was going to...well, fail 😂. Also, looking at the Steam Charts is not something reliable either, and in that regard I agree with Luke. Resident Evil 2 Remake got a peak of 70k players only, and it sold 12 million copies (or more?). The player peak is even lower than Veilguard. So, the Steam charts are not a given. And people will interpret them as their convenience.

[@jcflores1774]

He said it didn't flop in a way Bioware would shut down.

[@gord3588]

@@enoughisenough4-d3hagreed. It doesn’t take into account people who played on console or through another launcher

[@JMel2012]

There's also the free character creator. I bet that was counted in the 1.5 million.

[@joshuadavis2175]

The way my jaw stayed in the exact same spot.

[@lilBugger35]

I rebought Dragon Age Origins on GOG around that time. I feel like they counted that too. lol

[@r.e.z9428]

Nothing will be learned from this and the reasons for its failures will be ignored. It was the customers, EA, anything else that not the devs themselves. The developers couldn't be at fault for putting out slop, impossible. Next up on the chopping block is Mass Effect Exodus, which I have zero confidence in.

[@matthewlongo6404]

Everyone told you this game would bomb. Everyone told you they don't like this crap. You didn't listen. Stop.

[@iaqh]

The game is underrated, the characters were fun, sorry if you only Iike edgy characters.

[@akiramurakami3177]

@@iaqh Good for you if you like the game. The majority of us dont. Simple

[@iaqh]

@@akiramurakami3177 1.5 miIIion isn't a smaII number

[@hakuhyo174]

Yet some people were arguing on this very channel saying Veilguard sold great… lol it was so obvious 😂

[@EdWedgie]

IS THERE A SINGLE PERSON AT EA THAT ACTUALLY PLAYS VIDEO GAMES

[@beerasaurus]

If they artificially inflated sales numbers that means they hit less then 50%

[@GothPaoki]

It's a game about choices in which there are basically no choices..

[@garjian0]

A true return to form for Bioware.

[@Xornicus]

"Shut up meg" 😂

[@theodorehodbor5080]

Honestly at this point I'm just hoping for another BG3 scenario where Bioware goes bust then like 10+ years later EA gives the Dragon Age and Mass Effect IPs to an indie studio of veteran devs that proceed to turn lead into gold with them.

[@enoughisenough4-d3h]

Hmph, even if that happens, I don't think many people would care anymore. 10 years waiting for Veilguard (and look at what we got) was enough. It's over for Dragon Age, and potentially over for mass effect. The situation with BG3 is very different because people were younger by the time BG1 and 2 were released, just like with Dragon Age Origins. Now most of the fandom for those games has gotten older. Waiting 10 years for another Dragon Age is just useless at this point.

[@FloripesTavares]

Do you really think that most people that played BG3 even know about BG1 and BG2? They werent Sales sucess lop

[@heroicgangster9981]

i wonder how the dead space remake succeeded in comparison

[@berkansaygn]

Because it is a remake.

[@NeverLucky1765]

​@@berkansaygn he means numbers wise....

[@deathsyth8888]

The people at BioWare who worked on 'Dragon Age: The Veilguard' knew they were screwed once 'Balder's Gate 3' came out to stellar critical & user reviews and incredible sales in the multi millions.

[@MisterMonsterMan]

They were looking for 10 million + the day they green lit this in the board room. There is no way they expected it to sell less than Inquisition.

[@enoughisenough4-d3h]

Inquisition sold 10+ million in 10 years, not at launch. Don't exaggerate 😂.

[@jcflores1774]

They green lit it like 4 different times though.

[@Saintend]

He’s not even going to correct himself on saying that he was told by insiders that the game met performance expectations. The writing will be on the wall and Luke is still going easy for the devs sake these days

[@Arcademan09]

Mass Effect 4 is going to be an absolute disaster, it's going to get crucified so much harder than Veilguard

[@TheDeanthedon]

Once again I will never understand how a company driven seemingly only by profits doesn’t give the consumers what they want 😂

[@DavidC-fk2wg]

For me this game was done when that stupid trailer dropped that made it look like an overwatch clone.

[@johnnyzero8853]

How is it that you’re “role playing” if your character is too nice no matter what dialogue choice you pick?

[@PatrickBellWebDev]

My wife got into Dragon Age Inquisition as her first game after learning to play games through Hogwarts Legacy. She was infinitely excited for Dreadwolf and then when Veilgaurd was shown, she wasn't overly stoked with the direction change. She's now 75% of the way through Veilguard and has decided to give up and play Witcher 3 instead.

[@1957DLT]

Witcher 3 is always a solid choice.

[@Tomberculosis-q1i]

I think the message is clear. The sales numbers are shit because they strayed from the path that was layed before them. Diluting the formula until it becomes mush to appeal to more people doesnt work. A strong identity with clear cut goals that align with the customer's expectations is the way to make money. Things are tough people are more frugal than before. They arent willing to waste money on a game that isnt good enough and was never good enough

[@superspreaders1]

I replied the very same thing when this was posted on X. I actually had people aruguing: "You have to buy a game to play it, brü!" But I've worked in retail and know how corps well stretch any number they can to make sales sound better. The trigger word for me wasn't "engaged," which I hadn't seen before your vid, but just the word "players." They would have said "sales" if it was sales. This includes the EA Player subs, promo copies, refunds, shares, etc. It means that the usual figure, "units shipped" (which itself is only just what was sent to stores) must be embarrassingly less than 1.5M. I'm guessing the true, actual sales-to-customer number at far LESS than a million.

[@TheIndulgers]

You don't say. You don't say!

[@deathsyth8888]

What did he say?

[@thefallenvalley4340]

No way it sold 1.5m, too much

[@reinhard98]

Let's not forget that the game is on EA play PRO, you don't need to pay the full price to play the game

[@majorshepard2]

Yeah. You just need to pay a monthly subscription for dogshit games that a sane person would never pay a cent.

[@jassibella5415]

After listening reading that poor excuse for Q&A that John Epler and Corinne Busche did. Its very clear as to why dragon age veilguard flopped hard. The two of them do not have a clue and they need to be far awy from ME and never touch Dragon age again. There were so many things that got scrapped after most of the Bioware team got laid off and what was left were those to idiots. During the Q&A they either couldn't answer the questions fans had about the lore or completely made up stuff because they didn't know. EA sucks because of the layoffs but its clear the game didn't do well because the two had no idea what to do with the game and basically cut everything out from the original storyline but they fought to keep that stupid arena in the game that nobody plays.

[@RicksGolfHacks]

I remember opting for the old Necromancer dude to forego become a Lich in order to save his skeleton friend. The devs clearly never expected anyone to do that because I never saw the poor little guy again after that. May as well have selected to become a Lich. Pretty ordinary. And boy was it evident that the game had therapy talk in it…..to the point of being super annoying. Very disappointing considering how good the previous Dragon Age was. Hope they sack the Dev leads for the next one, if they even attempt another.

[@nendymion]

I don't really hold much hope for Mass Effect. I mean sure it's built to be what it is from the ground up but it still has all the same people that made Veilguard, including the writers. The only difference now is that the person that self inserted the most whiny character of Veilguard no longer works there.

[@Byrvurra]

7:40 Remember when 'ludonarrative dissonance' was the hot youtube videogame essay topic? I remember many a discussion; for a time you could not escape that term. Feels like that was like a decade ago or something.

[@mrsev765]

I'm surprised it sold what it did. Taking a beloved franchise known for dark, gritty story and turned it into marvel vomit. The audacity of the Devs to preach morals and then trying to hide behind the "we're victims you're all just bigots" just pushed more people away. No one wanted an action focused dragon age game, they wanted strategy, to control the whole team, to make decisions the have a real effect on the world like every game previous in the series (to some extent or another) It's funny because I'd completely forgot about the game until your video popped up. What a shambles of a game, people didn't even want to pirate it despite it being readily available lol

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

This game was such a free win too, the IP had such a massive value and was essentially a licence to print money. However yet again, ideologues infested the studio and completely destroyed the game and their colleagues future employment

[@johncarver357]

a series that started as basically a grimdark fantasy, now manned by 'writers' and 'creators' that are too afraid to have the characters be 'mean' or the world 'too dark'...the jokes write themselves

[@pinkpowercoin3341]

I liked the combat and I thought the new elven lore was very interesting. I just feel like a big issue (for me) was that you couldn’t be negative in the game. By that I mean, Rook, could never outright disagree with anyone. He was always nice, always supportive. You could only play him one way, which hinders any incentive for replays. The companions also, while serviceable, lack a lot of the depth that past companions had. Felt like the writers gave them one goal/one quirk and laser focused on it to a point there was no room for anything else. I enjoyed the game enough, but it definitely felt a little lackluster compared what I thought we were getting.

[@cmormino4578]

The “I would’ve bought it if it was good” button

[@Rieman6000]

Such a shame. BioWare used to be a main player in the video game industry.

[@h2ohero739]

The "engaged" number makes me question the sales even further. If you had 1.2 or 1.4 million sales I think that would be more impressive than 1.5 mil "engaged". Beyond the financial damage, Veilguard has sunk Bioware's reputation again. It was tarnished with Anthem but this was supposed to be a return to form. The public perception at large is the game wasn't good, so this does damage to both the Bioware and Dragon Age brands. The new Mass Effect is now in question for both consumers and EA internally. Just a sad time for old school Bioware fans tbh

[@BaggyBitesGames]

But I was told by the internet that the game is actually great and sold well with high review scores and had good writing

[@scratchbone1092]

Unsurprising. All the marketing and the silence during the years prior to release just allowed them to do whatever they wanted and have no one singing in their ears. I don't think it is a bad game, but it is the weakest Dragon Age. It did not really show anything interesting during marketing, nothing else than a polished, lighthearted RPG. 90% of the people waiting for a new game really wanted anything else to be stellar. I don't know what will become of Mass Effect Next, but I doubt it will be great or released anytime soon... ooof

[@sandwich6609]

They failed?? No shit.... Does EA has to say it ? This failed the moment the trailer came out.

[@madarasoun3018]

Most of us knew this. Wokies still tried to tell us it wouldn’t fail. 😅

[@Amadeus_A]

Anyone could've told you that. Anyone except Jason Schreier, apparently

[@Seracen]

The fans knew, of course, but I'm surprised that they already expected to LOSE money on the game even before release (poor PR notwithstanding). Granted, all those resets couldn't have helped, but that's another issue. The whole concept of "measure twice, cut once" never seems to enter into development in the gaming industry of late.

[@Arcademan09]

Someone else mentioned it but "engaged" could also mean digital services like Gamepass or EA Play

[@SaintxNio]

I enjoyed my time with it but even I will admit the official reveal trailer was very telling that BioWare shifted tone in the wrong direction with DA.

[@FrancisYorkMorganFBI]

fc 25 not fully delivering is not suprising. these games are usually played by casuals and normies that don't read industry news. most of them probably looked up fifa 25, saw nothing and moved on. i doubt they knew that EA lost the fifa license.

[@pedrofraga4366]

Never forget Luke’s video where he was so impressed with the game right before it launched. Sorry to be THAT guy but whatever

[@Jakee2121]

Bioware died 10 years ago, It's time to finally let it go.

[@Tanner1256]

veilguard makes inquisition look so good

[@Alien_Decay]

When I saw that DATV went on sale last steam sale, I knew they were desperate to boost numbers.

[@VampirezZ4]

Dragon Age Veilguard performed below expectations?!? In other words, the sky is blue.

[@edwardbrennan3963]

I'll help out EA and buy a copy!..... once its like

[@GRiznitDShiznit]

It's sad that we gotta celebrate a once beloved franchise's downfall. It's music to my ears to hear this game fail.

[@MrJamess1982]

I’m a bit skeptical when any gaming company (especially square and EA) that claimed a game did not make what they wanted. Sometimes it seems like they have way higher than normal expectations or they just don’t seem to see the issues we see with their games. Just another example of how out of touch the people in charge are.

[@thecasualchemist-S]

Man, i waited 10 years for this game, and i tried to love it, but the tone was so, so wrong. After playing Inquisition, i remember being eager to see what the next installment would be, where the story would go. Now i kinda never want to play the series again.

[@WiillPlay]

Exactly. I remember my first contact with Dragon Age Inquisition while I was still in high school. For a long time, it was the game as a reference in RPG elements for me. After Veilguard, I can't go back to any game in the franchise because it was so bad!

[@TheForever206]

Sheeeeeesh, BioWare really out here dropping 3 financial failures back-to-back and hasn't (yet) been shut down. It is honestly impressive if I am being honest. 🤔

[@superninetails56]

1:46 I think by engagement they mean services like EA play/gamepass.

[@thewh00ster]

GO WOK- you know what, this is just sad, can’t even clown on it anymore.

[@luckyducky7819]

Sad for me because I was just getting into the Dragon Age franchise.

[@r.e.z9428]

​@luckyducky7819 Just play Origins - Inquisition and leave it at that. Just like we do with Mass Effect, ME 1 - 3 and that's it, Andromeda doesn't exist same with Veilguard.

[@MaxIronsThird]

@@r.e.z9428 2 is good as well, just has a lot repetitive areas, the Kunari are so bad ass in it.

[@r.e.z9428]

@@MaxIronsThird Origins - Inquisition means Origins, 2 and Inquisition and I agree. Give me repetitive assets over the botoxed stillborn slop that Veilguard was.

[@Arizona-ex5yt]

We should rejoice when bad products fail. Think of the alternative. What if this trash was a huge hit? What then? Failure is how the market course corrects.

[@kstephenson5857]

I've been a fan of BioWare since Knights of the Old Republic. It is insane to me that KOTOR II, a 21-year-old game, has infinitely more complex and interesting characters with genuine moral dilemmas, while this expensive piece of fluff is devoid of almost no substance, despite having a development period of roughly three times longer than KOTOR II.

[@ThatGuy-xm5rm]

Many people bought the game, because it said „Dragon Age“ and were disappointed, so sending review codes would have cost them a ton of sales

[@domuk7844]

I respect the swing but its still hilarious how badly they missed

[@Venerablenesses]

It's too bad that veilguard under performed, I'm really enjoying it and it made me excited for new DA games. Hope we get a DA 5.

[@rorkstan9735]

Yeah. And corrine busche left bioware a couple days ago. Im sure this definitely had something to do with that decision

[@garthf.brooks6531]

Counting players... Gifted through apple, steam, nvidia, T-Mobile I don't think anyone realizes how many copies were given away. Same will be said with AC shadows. Theyve already given away over a million copies. To the vendor not the end customer

[@KimAlmighty1]

Luke as a VA damn thats good.

[@metzger2863]

Thankfully, a number of the folks who are responsible for Dragon Age: The Veilguard's poor reception are no longer with the studio, so hopefully the talent that replaces them does better. EA will ultimately not screw around with this. They learned at least one lesson some other publishers haven't: Good, focused, single-player games CAN and DO sell well when they're done right, rare as they may be regardless. EA will not use "single player games don't sell" as an excuse when these games do poorly, because leadership in their own studios have proven otherwise. If Mass Effect 5 launches and fizzles out like an errant fart, the executives will look squarely at the studio for blame. Let's hope ME5 is the "return to form" people actually hope for.

[@arthurbutler3576]

I’m Worried about Mass Effect now.

[@scarlett8782]

I bet they actually sold less than a million, and that half of those were at the 40% discount they were forced to apply less than a month after launch. I would be shocked if this game has made 80 million. 1 million sales at full price ($60) would be 60 million, and I don't even think they managed that. on a budget that was probably 200 million or more.

[@jwwilliams5407]

Dropped it after almost 20 hours. I just couldn't bring myself to finish it. Worried about ME4 now...

[@dr_diddy]

If ME4 is shepherd and gang but no world import it's gonna be cooked. One dumb thing in Veilguard was bringing back old characters who were basically blanks.

[@jwwilliams5407]

@dr_diddy exactly! Hope they learned from this

[@jcruz2255]

"Engaged". Ouch, that bad, huh?

[@PixelatedCJ]

It didn't even catch a whiff of the mark

[@jgj75]

Guys, EA is a public company that can be sued for false statements made to investors. They are not lying about their expectations.

[@thefallenvalley4340]

Soooo im non binary

[@hamzahmohammed5491]

Stop 😭

[@alderoth01]

To me, it's because they make caricatures of different communities. I'm LGBTQIA+ and NONE of the "representation" that has been made in newer games, other than Baldur's Gate 3, has been real or relatable. It's all after school specials, which never taught us anything lol. It's good to have wishful thinking about the future and to try to be a good person, but people don't use therapy speech when talking to each other. When we end up in confrontations, therapy speech is not used lol. I don't understand any of it at all, and I hope they don't screw up Mass Effect. That would be a real tragedy lol.

[@santiagoherrera1853]

That moment when you realize even Nintendo has made RPG’s with a deeper and more compelling story, dialogue and characters

[@thirdcoastfirebird]

You got it right. "Shut up Meg" covers this game.

[@cthulhu888]

I keep wondering whoever wrote Taash's non binary bit thinking to themselves "Oh yeah this is it! This is gonna print millions for us!" 🤑🤣

[@Benvolio-e8k]

Surely they didn't count the people that downloaded the free character creator as well right.......

[@jamieturner5291]

Their probably counting the EA play 10 hour free trial for engagement numbers

[@Jerh1985]

Not just some times but somethings are never worth talking about. If you have trauma over pointless piddly stuff keep it to yourself. If your overly sensitive and worry about everything that is a you problem. If you are terminally ill or lose a family member I'm with you, if you lose all your possession from a natural disaster I'll help you recover. If your feeling hurt because daddy didn't hug you enough or you can't control you impulse so are self destructive then suck it up buttercup. At some point we just need to own up that we are not special that you likely just need thicker skin as you are not owed anything. Given that they decided to put some of this stuff in a game, you've got to be kidding me.

[@jcflores1774]

Hopefully the different director will steer it right way this time.

[@marron5272]

Luke being critical of the VG, I need you to drop and give me 45 barvs

[@kinomanssky]

The problem with this game is that the quality is globally not good so in the long run it won’t make much more money even in deep sales.

[@nasraabdullah6935]

The issue is not will they learn or not because they are activist 1st devolopers 2nd and the worst type of activists the type with moral superiority in their head they can't do wrong, they 100% know what they're doing , character like tash isn't accidental.

[@jtxhitman6381]

It's EA! Everyone knew it was a flop