Dragon Ball GT is WEIRD

Hey guys, I finally uploaded another video! Sorry if the editing seems a little off for this one, not that it's ever ON, but I tried to work around not getting copyright claimed so here’s hoping it's not too bad. Also, I use the term “saga” and “arc” pretty interchangeably, so if you don’t like it, then just remember that I’ve actually never seen an episode of Dragon Ball so I don’t know what I’m saying. Also, the reason there was an Xbox controller in 1996 is because that scene is not cannon and is a part of the EU. It has nothing to do with me being a dumbass. Hope you like the video!
Also, I very stupidly forgot to give credit to Bulby for their fabulous 8-bit rendition of the GT intro. Link to the channel is right here, so check out their other awesome retro remixes! / bulby

[@Vaishino]

To be fair regarding silly names, Nappa is literally a cabbage, and Freiza is named what he is bc Toriyama thought the fridge was like the boss of the vegetables Edit: a full year later I'm tired of correcting people. Google napa cabbage before you tell me "he isn't named after a cabbage, that's cabba"

[@wereqert2748]

Yeah, that's true

[@WingMaster562]

My favorite is the Capsule Corp. family being named to underwear. Had a distinct memory when I was a kid, and my older brother was introducing a girl (possibly his gf) Dragonball Z to her with arts of Trunks on the computer. She said "Trunks was it? I like to see him in his trunks"

[@RoninCatholic]

Gohan means rice or the midday meal, Goku and Goten are named partly in reference to that. Minor character Lunch and first arc villain Emperor Pilaf from early Dragonball is based around that theme. Oolong, Yamcha, and Puar are all named for tea. Piccolo and all his early minions are named after musical instruments...heck, minor good guys include _Mr. Satan_ and his daughter who is an anagram of _Devil_ . Characters whose names aren't silly are the exception in Dragon Ball, that's for certain!

[@humanman9920]

Trunks ? Briefs ? Lol no i can't complain much about names anywhere in this franchise .

[@Catastropheex1]

Yh but all the saiyans are named after vegetable, and isn't "king cold, cooler, frieza" following a name pattern too? It's one thing to have a patter for naming things and another for naming a character "baby" 💀

[@gaddiusgaddium9082]

I like how Vegeta grows as a person and the first thing he does is steals Nappa's moustache.

[@dansmith1661]

Nappa was his mentor and his or his dad's retainer

[@Peanuggie]

@@dansmith1661 And he ruthlessly eviscerated him💀

[@theArchive1O]

@@gwynbleidd7177 I’m 7 years late but thx

[@Nombrenooriginal]

@@Peanuggie what can you do with someone who has more ego than bªlls

[@hsblw_6]

@@gwynbleidd7177 MUSTAAAAACHE that was the first thing that came to my mind

[@tchukkelz2246]

Fun fact: It's narratively satisfying that Goku befriends the dragon that represents the Four Star Dragon Ball, because that was the Dragon Ball that Goku originally owned at the beginning of the series. He also has a deep emotional connection to the Four Star Dragon Ball because when he was little he believed that it housed the soul of his late Grandpa Gohan.

[@tentaplayz3691]

Yes obviously

[@Pottasium92]

No shit Sherlock

[@TSL_SINISTRO]

@@Pottasium92 lmao

[@_G.C]

@@Pottasium92 Christ

[@conaldeugenepeterson2147]

Are you sure about that? I need to do some research and run some scientific tests. Brb

[@alexlionheart5385]

For me, I found Dragonball GT as a little kid when I was trying to download Dragonball videos and use Limewire (which was hard as hell back then). I found clips of the battles in Japanese and had no clue what it was! GT was not in the U.S. back then. So I came to love it because I watched those clips thousands of times! As a little kid, we were still in the Feieza Saga, whereas I was watching Goku go from Golden Ozaru to SSJ4. It has a fond place in my heart. Don’t care about the hate people have for it. It exists and I am grateful for it! 🔥

[@sig-eag]

Likewise man, I remember watching DBGT on my grandpa's laptop when I stayed with them in the afternoon after morning school. Special

[@battokizu]

I had my cousins to thank for getting my brother and me an early peek in 98 or 99, of course being that DBZ was still new over here and no one knew GT it was just one of those things that you could show and mesmerize all the kids in elementary school with.

[@michaelmeandros551]

Oh man, member' Final Bout?!(ps1)

[@resurgam44]

I remember watching all of GT around 2001 by downloading episodes piecemeal off KaZaA and various DB websites, as well as trading fansubbed VCDs with the guy who ran our local comic ship. I ended up watching a weird mishmash of Japanese, Spanish, and Italian episodes, so the English dub is actually the most alien to me with its weird hip hop vibe lol.

[@soleiltounsi6754]

I discovered Dragon Ball world with the drawings of some GT episodes in a French magazine. It was almost more than 20 years ago when I discovered it. GT fan and proud of it! 👊

[@RG93i]

Ah yes, the silly names that ONLY GT had. Because Pilaf, Garlic, Cabba, Granolah, Oatmeel, and Gas are completely serious and should never be mistaken as silly names.

[@cvhashim]

Don’t forget Nikki or Turles

[@fnln3011]

Demon king piccolo, the evilest of woodwind instruments!

[@crmac135]

He has a first order cutout… what more needs to be said

[@Fun_tbh]

Only one here that genuinely is dumb here is Granola

[@crmac135]

@@Fun_tbh oatmeel and gas don’t make the cut? lol

[@_____Imnotcreativeatnames]

Another positive for the baby arc is, the more unhinged baby get's overtime. He goes from a very smart villain with motives, to being the one thing he hates. A "sayian" invading another planet.

[@YearsOVDecay1]

"Get's"? Please explain to me how "get" can be possessive or what contraction "get's" is representing? Can't wait to hear this one lol

[@OneCSeven]

@@YearsOVDecay1 imagine being this much of a prick over a typo 🤡

[@kadamianwoodruff1369]

@@YearsOVDecay1 people like you take the grammar 💩 overboard. 346 liked the comment and you put emphasis on a an apostrophe 🤣 What a clown.

[@BeardedWolfKing]

@@YearsOVDecay1 wtf?

[@VTGN-II]

@@YearsOVDecay1 another idiot vorrecting grammar when his own grammar is flawed. Jesus, what a loser.

[@mikemoss6045]

Z Vegeta: "I'm a saiyan pride is everything" GT Vegeta: "Juice me bulma"

[@CARNEIRAUM]

300 g machine that Bulma made it?

[@LilXancheX]

Ssj4 would do it, huh? Way to go kakarott, Rub it in why don’t you

[@blackjackgabbiani19]

​@@CARNEIRAUM Yes. Bulma/Dr. Briefs made him a training room, which facilitated his PUSHING HIMSELF HARDER to achieve greater power through his own efforts. A little different than being shot with a SSJ4 laser.

[@smallz2495]

Did you forget about majin vegeta?

[@sinistralhydra]

​@@blackjackgabbiani19 It wasn't really a "SSJ4 Lazer" the machine just allowed him to become an Oozaru without his tail. He went through the transformation on his own.

[@IceKoldKilla]

This era is when I grew up. Late 90s, early 2000s and man do I remember how cool Japan was to us. They had so much stuff that took YEARS to arrive to the US, let alone Europe in many cases. Imagine if today, in 2024 Japan got a new Dragon Ball show and it took 6-7 years for us to get it dubbed. Imagine not even a Japanese release wjth subtitles. Imagine just hearing about it and stories but never seen it. And for years you read artitcles or see stuff in magazines, websites, etc. And finally one day we get it. Wild times. Now anything can be imported so easily and with the internet, any fan can decide to do their own dub if needed lol. It might not happen a lot but my point is it's possible. And long before anything like that, we now get full descriptions, trailers, videos, subbed episodes all before a dub sometimes. But at least you get a lot. Before you simply had stories until someone showed proof.

[@beyond_hjaemmetraening]

Yes, I member!!!

[@BoxingGamesAndComics]

I always loved that the tails were necessary to turn ssj4, and since Goku was wished a kid, Vegeta had Bulma scientifically grow it so he could turn ssj4

[@robertgardner7478]

In the Japanese language version SSJ4 is referred to as "perfect Saiyan", meaning you have to be pure blood, able to turn Super Saiyan, and able to control yourself enough in Oozaru form to activate Super Saiyan.

[@KrimmReaper]

@@robertgardner7478 Dang. I didn't know that. Best form ever, man. I'm telling you.

[@haimarrrr]

@@robertgardner7478 "Sūpā Saiya-jin Fō" Maybe i didn't understand but they don't call it like that, also i think that's fake

[@mitpoker7319]

@@robertgardner7478 What??

[@mitpoker7319]

@@haimarrrr Monkey Butt 4: Yellow Apeshit goes bananas!! This was GT in a nutshell.

[@0047sssss]

The animators always hated drawing Cell because of all the spots in his design

[@LilXancheX]

It’s those huge ears and tail!

[@MrLachapell]

Who told you that

[@silver-ly]

@@MrLachapellquite literally Toriyama himself lmfao

[@myhatelect]

​@@silver-ly tori hated drawing it i thought, not the animators

[@G0L0V0L0MKEE]

@@myhatelect Y0U WILL BE DUDE \ DUDETE WHEN Y0U CAN ADMIT-DEFEAT

[@WhoElseButZane]

One thing no one ever seems mention is that the Trunks in GT has the same exact personality as the one in Dragon Ball Z despite the fact they are actually two different characters. Future Trunks developed his personality because of the hardships he had to face due to the androids. Whereas the present Trunks was kinda bratty and acted sort of like Vegeta. It's not unbelievable that GT Trunks would become more humble as he grew up, but it still doesn't warrant him becoming the exact same character as future Trunks. It would've made sense if he grown up to be a little more arrogant and preppy. I think if they wanted a nice, mellow and humble character, Goten should've filled that role.

[@nainorotodox]

I mean, between the events of GT and Z a long time passed (10-20? from the ending epilogue of DBZ) and it's implied that almost everyone just kinda stopped fighting and went on to live regular lives, Trunks is the leader of some corporation, Gohan is a hard-studying Nerd, and Vegeta softened a little bit to become a household dad. Maybe going for so long without fighting made everyone softer and less aggressive and arrogant, especially Trunks, who had other responsabilities to attend to

[@SkimpyJigglesJr.-ff2ib]

​@@nainorotodoxTheir point is that GT Trunks is exactly like Future Trunks, when he shouldn't be. Your comment is "Well the reason this Trunks is different is because he didn't fight as much" when the point is that they're not different at all. GT Trunks shouldn't be like Future Trunks because GT Trunks is a nerd and Future Trunks was a warrior.

[@TechnicSky]

@@SkimpyJigglesJr.-ff2ibWell then.. that’s the difference? Albeit both are nerds. GT Trunks is just more nerdy than his counterpart. On top of that, what Shrek said makes sense. He took over a part of his *genius* family’s corporation. And was already clever with some wit. I’m pretty sure we can put two and two together and make four words for how he became what he is.

[@arielshligman2146]

Isn't that the solution to the cannon it's gt is just the continueation of future trunk if they had namakian dragonballs so they didn't need to travel back in time

[@Hitchswitch111]

Ngl bro I don’t think GT trunks acts like future trunks at all…

[@ignaciogarza956]

Im 33 and I grew up watching Dragonball, I honestly dont know why a lot of people dont like Dragonball GT, for me this was still rad af, good oldschool animation and the storyline was great, loved the ending

[@lucaciao9019]

Don't watch it now then or you'll reconsider...

[@Blue-r4b]

Me too

[@pathkeepers]

Just gatekeepers and contrarians

[@thegatorhator6822]

They just hate it because it wasn't Toriyama, basically. Super is way worse and they love that tripe.

[@masterbaiter327]

@@thegatorhator6822DB Super is a massive WTF.

[@che6507]

I always find funny how the entire world either dislike or completely ignore DBGT while it’s the one of the most loved and adored anime in South America. No joke, my sister had the opening playing in her wedding.

[@penske_material]

Creo que solo amamos la musica... no se si pensamos lo mismo de las historia lol

[@JuntosXlaLibertadMileyBuIIrich]

Yo vi la serie más de diez veces la última vez hace dos o tres años jajaja

[@MARLBOROBASTARD]

Yo no sabia que todos eran re fans de gt, yo pense que siempre fue z la gran cosa.

[@penske_material]

@@MARLBOROBASTARD creo que la Super nos hizo apreciar la GT más. Pero la GT tiene ideas excelentes, el problema es la ejecución

[@westonmeyer3110]

Have you ever heard the English opening of GT? Imagine playing that shit at a wedding. LMAO!!

[@RubberMango]

This is the kind of content that feels like old school KZbin.

[@Mr.HaterJaquavius]

I've been missing out

[@resurgam44]

On old KZbin, you couldn't upload videos longer than 10 minutes, so not really?

[@folv6631]

​@resurgam44 lol that was nearly 15 years ago. Ergo, old

[@sfreak451]

What makes you say that?

[@fireassassin16]

A mistake I made when rewatching was not having the Japanese music while watching the dub. because the English music of gt has like 4 tracks just repeated on every episode where as the Japanese music has more variety.

[@dblmisterjokes2]

You really stressed that? Lmao!

[@scrappy1416]

I actually thought the English soundtrack was good. The problem was that all the tracks sounded very similar to each other and gave off the same tone despite the fact that GT has multiple tones to it. But, due to the bleak and dark tone of Mark Menza's music, the stakes felt higher in all the serious moments, particularly the Baby saga when Goku achieves ssj 4 for the first time. I thought the music fit and set the tone for GT and its dark and dull world perfectly. With a plot that focuses on the corrupted dragon balls, the resurrection of a previously destroyed race full of hatred, a villain ruling over the planet, an adventure through the dark corners of the galaxy and and onslaught of dragons spawned by pure negative energy, that music felt like it was perfect for a show like this. After all, GT isnt all sunshine and rainbows like Super is. Take the destroyed future world scenes of the Goku black arc for example. If this music was used there, it would reinforce the idea of how messed up Trunks' world is, add more stakes to the fate of that world and make Goku Black seem even more menacing with his actions. The English music for GT was one dimensional in tone and while it was a good fit for most of GT, it still felt incredibly out of place for the light hearted scenes. Where it fails though, is the majority of the first arc and parts in between other major arcs, due to the comedic scenes. Such dark and dull music seems very out of place in a scene where the characters are goofing around or acting casual. So yeah, I think in the serious moments of GT that music is great. But in every non serious scene it feels very goofy and unusual.

[@lapplandkun9273]

Dan dan kokoro hikareteku is better than the grand tour. What was english dub thinking? So glad for the rerelease of GT box dub they had vic mignogna sing the japanese dub of GT

[@igorkatic6144]

The mistake you made is that you watched it in dub. It is inferior in any way to the original. it's like watching any american movie in German.

[@burningsexuality1540]

@@igorkatic6144 You're cringe.

[@shinigato]

Rest in Peace Akira Toriyama 🕊️

[@frankieinjapan]

I really like the concept of the evil dragons. They really do rely on dragon balls do much, and, with all the universe altering they do, you'd think they actually WOULD build up some sort of negative energy. I'd love to see super borrow this.

[@kaiderhaiii]

especially after seeing the super hero movie, that shit bulma does can't be good lmao

[@bobross8851]

@@kaiderhaiii it’d be hilarious to see a flashback to the super hero movie explaining how bulma’s wishes brought the evil dragons upon them

[@yuhjeice7186]

@@kaiderhaiii that bbl booty tho 😂

[@archive8080]

Super has already borrowed a lot of non-canon content from the movies so it's not unlikely they'll tackle some GT stuff as well.

[@geigercourtier]

Why does the energy build up have to be negative? In a world where bullets are basically spit balls to trained humans and magic and ghost exist, how much a transgression would altering reality really be? I think people just aren’t honest, the audience doesn’t want a quick fix button. If they simply made Dragonball a like nukes it that’s an easy fix but there’s too many fictional solutions to act like grounding it to real world would be the best option….sorry you’re not the first to think of this so I’m prepared

[@Tahmaysu]

The Baby arc and Super Saiyan 4 were solid additions in GT. The rest was very disappointing, though.

[@sqword11l]

And that's why dragon Ball super copied baby

[@darkskull1982]

@@sqword11l Ginyu did it first, so not really.

[@Keyfuture]

What about omega shenron battle

[@Tahmaysu]

@@Keyfuture I found the Shadow Dragons arc pretty meh except for the ending.

[@bofasofa9399]

@@Tahmaysu LOL

[@KingCarna]

I honestly really liked the Baby arc because until EXTREMELY recently in terms of the story’s existence, they never really talk about the fact that the Saiyans are serious genocidal maniacs. Full stop. And I LOVED the idea that a victim got revenge

[@coreytoomey7579]

I also like how Baby literally became what he despised. Poetic irony.

[@KingCarna]

@@coreytoomey7579 also that he NEVER realized that fact. So sure in his purity of mission he never considered any sort of moral quandary

[@SkimpyJigglesJr.-ff2ib]

​@@KingCarnaTo be fair, the fact that saiyans were genocidal maniacs was at the very beginning of Dragon Ball Z. They talked about it immediately, when they introduced the Saiyans as a species. The Saiyans were the muscle in a universe spanning empire that invaded planets, ended all life on those planets, and then sold the planets to other space entities. From day one they were shown to be genocidal maniacs and nearly every time they were brought up in the past tense they were shown to be genuinely evil with evil hearts. GT expanded on the lore but there was never a single moment that the Saiyans of this universe were shown to be anything except for genocidal maniacs.

[@TechnicSky]

@@SkimpyJigglesJr.-ff2ibThat’s the point. Baby’s hung up on something in the past. His whole point is to get revenge for something long after it’s over. Vegeta acknowledged it but he didn’t deny the Saiyans doing what they did back then. He tells him, in his Vegeta way, to basically forget about it and leave Gohan’s body or else.

[@stuartmccleary]

Think concept was great as you said the execution of that story was just wonky

[@LegitThatDude]

R.I.P. Akira Toriyama

[@TomasUjhelyi]

He died?

[@NIRO1885]

Nope, just doing your mom. ​@@TomasUjhelyi

[@ZackShark1]

​@@TomasUjhelyiyea

[@joseluissifuentes8639]

One of the highlights of GT is that Vegeta developed more further and he wasn’t in Goku’s nor his dad’s shadow and considers him as a friend

[@CJonesApple]

As a kid I still liked it. I never thought it was as good but the highs were damn high. Baby had awesome designs, SSJ4 looked iconic and hasn't been surpassed in any of DBS transformations.

[@pearcehubbart3767]

Yup, GT did have more solid transformations than a dye job.

[@gothxm]

Check out legend dbz fan animation. Got me so hype for a fan concept man..

[@rafaelanim8]

It was somenthing when we depended on TV

[@AD-ur1fk]

The only problem was turning Goku into a kid and ruining gotten

[@hitkid2456]

@@pearcehubbart3767 Even AF had better forms, lel

[@shadowrealmopennings8093]

I'm glad someone else noticed how good they treated Vegeta in the show even in moments that i didn't like, like how he got ssj4, but he matures really well and noticably and i really liked it.

[@Kevintendo]

8:08 to be fair growing up with DBGT, the narrator was really cool lol. Basically Tom the Toonamj guy

[@EvanSchatz]

I like the English Dragon Ball narrator more than either of them anyways "on the next Draaaagon Baaaalll!"

[@bradmurray7362]

It’s vegeta and piccolos voice actor

[@malcolmmabota8957]

When I rewatched GT recently, I think the intent was to combine the weirdness that everybody loved from OG Dragon Ball with the Action that made Z popular, but in the end, it became a mess. I still like the show though.

[@Ethereally13]

Agreed, the way GT constantly uses elements from the original Dragonball is one of my favorite things about it. Even SSJ4 combines the SSJ of Dragonball Z with the Great Ape from Dragonball.

[@mariobadia4553]

You can tell they put one episode in charge of some weirdo because there's a scene where a deer sucks on one of Pan's nipples to get milk

[@penske_material]

Seeing as GT has a lot of great ideas but are terribly executed. I feel that the people in or at least some of them had the right intentions but then they got bombarded with studio interferences just like in Hollywood.

[@tarunendrapratap]

The ending and tribute to Goku in GT is one of the most heart warming and emotional tributes you'll ever see! It makes men cry.

[@falconeshield]

I must be the only one who didn't like the ending. The GT movie was supposed to be how it actually did

[@arslaanpasha3334]

​@@falconeshieldYeah

[@moisesvirgen7711]

@@falconeshieldbig tripping.. GT ending is how DBZ and SUPER should/should’ve ended .. especially the Latino dub , omg it’s one of the best anime endings especially for DRAGON BALL

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

That Vegeta moment was amazing It's nice to see how much he cares about the earth and everyone else after living there for so long

[@wetenschap123]

4:42 To appeal to a younger audience. And it worked! GT was my first Dragonball anime that I could completely watch instead of different episode per week from Z. Funny enough, that's why Dan dan kokoro is my favourite Dragonball op.

[@TheAzulmagia]

I'm inclined to believe the Black Star Dragon Balls were made expressly for the purpose of keeping the number of wishes on the OG balls at 7 for the Shadow Dragon Arc.

[@_Teej_264]

I feel like they went way over 7 anyway but it was an excuse to have them chase dragon balls across the galaxy since anything on a single planet would be a day-trip at that point

[@budaroddy]

Back in the 90's GT was awesome, it was like DBZ but not, with own things and different vibes overall ... I just love it even with all the flaws I believe the charisma behind its worth it

[@rbriggs89]

I couldn’t even get into GT as a kid.

[@bmqww223]

Yea this is what i feel like too... it has a different charm to it maybe i have an affinity to 90s anime like Kochikame , and i enjoyed the animations and music very much even though the story might be objectively not well executed but they have the foundations....

[@sig-eag]

I loved GT, and I still do. I'll need some time to articulate the rationale behind it . . . if at all there is any, besides that when I watched it, that was it, that was the end of Dragonball, period. Until we meet again

[@danjoy2]

I loved GT back as a kid, too. Especially the SSJ4 design was so hype.

[@Zdiggins420]

Gt was not available in the US in the 90's quit playing

[@R2D2.69]

I thoroughly enjoyed your commentary about GT. People normally just jump on the "GT sucks" bandwagon. Also I couldn't agree more about Vegeta in GT. He was such a nuance character that you have to see him become who he is in GT to deeply enjoy it.

[@amarathegoddess735]

Ong👈🏽

[@WingMaster562]

Nice username, it's rare to have that. Unless it's youtube, since iirc they allow having duplicate names now (so long as the email is still unique)

[@leultrainstinct406]

It really does suck tho. It’s the goku show pretty much the entire time and characters who have potential for development get shafted so goku could get all the moments. Stale fights that just spam ki blasts. Horrible villains besides baby. Inconsistent af. Etc

[@fridaynightnicktoons6885]

@@leultrainstinct406 we get it,you don’t want people to enjoy a show so you go to gt videos and bash em. You got like 24 comments bashing gt here. You want attention that bad? XD

[@toxicmasculinity7870]

@@leultrainstinct406 This seems more like DB Super to me.

[@masterbullcorn]

People try so hard to hate on GT it's sad. It was a cool show. A lot of the complaints were just nitpicking.

[@Kumarasway-i2g]

Nah

[@stefilordofsmugness4108]

The end credits for the second to last episode is iconic, depicting every major moment in Gokus life. Everytime I see it always makes me tear up a little.

[@andyfumo8931]

Dan dan .....

[@falconeshield]

It's been 26 years

[@fielalmanga]

Second to last? That IS the last episode....

[@Beckwourth]

I love how Vegeta told both his son & Goku's sons that it's their responsibility as saiyans to finish what they may not be able to finish themselves. Uub gets to be their overseer of the family.

[@davidwong5230]

the ending of GT was absolutely amazing, I meant the song, and the flashbacks, really made tear up as a kid. They didn't do Vegeta any justice in my opinion, Super did, Vegeta would never use technology to reach a new form, never, he will work his butt off to achieve it, that's what I liked about him in the first place

[@jefftakesdscakes30]

Vegeta wouldn't cry about not achieving ssjg of his own effort if he was chosen

[@bongchoof]

Like he had that kind of time. At this point in the series, what do you think matters more to him? His pride or his family?

[@jefftakesdscakes30]

@@bongchoof the worst thing about dragonball are vegeta fan gays

[@bongchoof]

@@jefftakesdscakes30 Well...I am a Vegeta fan...and I am gay. So 2 for 2 there buddy! Good job!

[@davidwong5230]

@@jefftakesdscakes30 lol, because the other characters get so much character development in super right, Goku became a complete idiot bent on getting stronger, gohan became a weakling who sweats when he flies, the other characters are made redundant, Vegeta has the best character arc by far! He achieved all the gods forms himself, he didn't need 5 other Saiyans as a ceremony

[@tylercoon1791]

Actually, the joke for Don Kia’s name isn’t Donkey, it’s an anagram of the Japanese word for merchant, which is ‘Akindo’, since he’s the ruler of the greed planet after all. And since Don is what you call the leader of a crime family, I think it fits pretty well.

[@youtubeisntthesame529]

It would have changed a lot for me if Goten hadn’t of been left out of the trip with Pan just sneaking on with them instead of leaving him behind. Would have been a cool way for Pan to develop a relationship with her uncle while he is with his best friend Trunks and has more building scenes between him and Goku since there were so few in Z.

[@souljamarx]

Would’ve loved to see them fuse

[@youtubeisntthesame529]

@@souljamarx Aw man, that was one of the unforgivable sins of GT to have an adult Goten and Trunks with no adult Gotenks.

[@Charles_Anthony]

I personally think that the writers for GT had no clue what to do with Goten in GT which has been an issue since Goten first appeared. The writers in Z did nothing with Goten except have him be Goku's clone baby. In Super he was relagated to the role of Trunks' sidekick. Even when you think that something should be happening to Goten and Trunks in Super nothing ever does! Toriyama even forgot that they weren't 7 or 8 in Super like they were in Z and it wasn't until Super Hero that the boys got a redesign. They literally went from being 7 and 8 to being 14 in the blink of an eye. Long story short, the entire franchise has never done anything with Goten so you can't really blame GT.

[@youtubeisntthesame529]

@@Charles_Anthony nah, Goten is still the youngest super saiyan. The son of Goku who not only had the son of Vegeta as a best friend but then introduced the first fusion character in the series that went SSJ3 as children just from watching Goku do it once. The only other canon SSJ3 character even now. Far more than just a clone. The foundation for both of their potential was set and the argument back then was Goten got too much love and didn’t have struggle for accomplishments. So, in GT and Super I believe they listened and wish to have him go through struggles with humanity like lust and laziness before releasing the potential established from his inception. GT failed because it never had anything that came after his human desires to distract him. Super still has a chance.

[@Charles_Anthony]

@@youtubeisntthesame529: You can't argue that Toriyama forgot about the boys in Super though so not much hope that they'll get any real development since the movies aren't canon. Don't be surprised if they go from being teen back to kids.

[@TheTupMan]

To be fair, what you didn’t like about the show wasn’t the animation. It was the art style. The animation is specifically about the shows movement and fluidity visually, while your complaint about cell and frieza in that episode was more about how their faces looked. And don’t get me wrong, I hate the way they look in GT. Dr. Gero too. But it isn’t the animation that’s to blame.

[@ithinkitsvizbi]

You're right! I guess I shouldn't have clumped it all together as just saying the animation. Thanks for the feedback :)

[@fridaynightnicktoons6885]

No movement is only a part of animation. Animation is all of the shit you see. If you just mean movement then just say movement or you’re being misleading intentionally

[@TakeshiInazuma]

They used to reuse animations as well just like DBS and Z. I'm not sure OG DB

[@kenslycarpel3140]

@@fridaynightnicktoons6885 You sure? I looked up the meaning of animation, and it only retains to something’s movement, not movement and appearance. Where’d you get your definition from?

[@godoftune]

@@fridaynightnicktoons6885 you are wrong, animation is movement

[@kayzeaza]

I like how GT ends and almost comes full circle with the entire franchise.

[@finnish_hunter]

I personally hate the personality of SSJ4 Gogeta, they turned him into Vegito in GT when Gogeta is supposed to be the more serious fusion form.

[@horizon8618]

I do think the animation is sometimes awkward but most of the time I see it more functional.

[@leultrainstinct406]

Not during fights. It’s horrible and makes everything feel stiff and stale. The lack of choreography makes it even worse

[@horizon8618]

@@leultrainstinct406 have you watched GT?

[@keno4770]

@@leultrainstinct406 honestly the animation in GT is just as good as the original Z and the art direction is even better

[@Taoishim]

@@leultrainstinct406 Um, I think you're talking about DBS lol. The character design and artwork may be off sometimes in GT, but the animation is mostly similar to Z. DBS is lacking in choreography lol DBS doesn't know how to storyboard and choreograph their fights. The best imo and cleanest is when Goku, Frieza and 17 vs Jiren and that was at the end. MUI Goku vs Jiren was definitely better than most of Super, but it wasn't like amazing like other animes.

[@horizon8618]

@@leultrainstinct406 I'm waiting for an answer lol

[@redblood421]

I think all your points were great. Only thing I will add is Pan is suppose to act that way. Because her grandfather Hercule was taking care of her. So she didn't have the same humbleness that other characters had. So part of it is her maturing into a good and respectful person.

[@Charles_Anthony]

Plus, Pan has that same type of energy/fire that Chi Chi and Videl have. They really toned Videl down in Super and GT but she used to be a spitfire in Z and I think some of Pan's more annoying outbursts can be attributed to who she's related to more than her being raised by Mr. Satan/Hercule. However, it does explain her spoiled/ "I'm better than you" type of attitude that she has in the beginning since her grandfather is so prideful.

[@LegendarySpaceRipper]

@@Charles_Anthony Chi Chi was like that as a child and then a bit as as an adult but Z made her seem half like Bulma and half like a stereotypical 'study study' mother. I like her more as a fighter. She did not have to change like that just because she is a mother.

[@Charles_Anthony]

@@LegendarySpaceRipper: Chi Chi had a bad temper but I don't really remember her being spoiled. She was honestly more shy than spoiled due to living in the middle of nowhere. And I agree wholeheartedly that Akira ruined Chi Chi's character by making her a tiger mom. At least, off screen, she shows that she's still a fighter by training Goten how to fight, but that always clashed with the personality Akira gave her when she raised Gohan..

[@LegendarySpaceRipper]

@@Charles_Anthony I never really got it either as her father raised her to be self-reliant and to fight although he was there if she needed help. She could have been a great mother whilst fighting with Goku. Another reason for it being odd is that she was excited to fight Goku in the ring yet suddenly became naggy and treating Gohan like he is an average human. I mean she did not worry when Goku did stuff at the same age

[@Charles_Anthony]

@@LegendarySpaceRipper: You're not wrong. She just got bitter over time, but her coddling Gohan does make sense when you remember that he was kidnapped by Piccolo for over a year. That would make any parent become clingy.

[@Vi-ob1yu]

GT is the opposite of Super. GT: Great ideas (usually); poor execution. Super: Boring ideas; (usually) competent execution.

[@Vi-ob1yu]

Certainly if one tried to *fix* one of these shows, GT would be the easier fix. Some better names (Baby), cut some crap out (50% of black star dragonball hunt arc, all of super android 17), a few better character designs (Vegeta Baby looks kinda dumb), and a better soundtrack would go a really long way into making GT good. Fixing Super on the other hand, I mean, I'd have to scrap practically the whole show. The ideas weren't botched, they're just bad.

[@MattsAlive]

uh- no??

[@Vi-ob1yu]

@@MattsAlive What do you mean?

[@theunpredictableone5379]

@@Vi-ob1yu I really enjoyed the goku black arc in super ,it wasn't bad

[@ChrisHighlights]

@@Vi-ob1yu the japanese soundtrack for gt is arguably the best soundtrack in the series in my opinion. funimation butchered gt and even trolled fans of the japanese version of gt with this kzbin.info/www/bejne/f37dnIV4Z76HZ9U

[@aeon-pingxpong4842]

8:30 I'm not gonna lie, most of the video is on-point and very good, but this is a nothing burger. Literally who cares on if the narrator said Dragon Ball when referencing GT. It's 2 seconds of a 20+ minute long animation that has absolutely no effect on the content or plot of the episode, the animation, storytelling, voice acting, etc. If you actually care that much about the opening narration that quite literally is just a you problem I'm gonna be real. Dragon Ball is gonna be Dragon Ball whether or not the narrator opens up with 'Next time on Dragon Ball GT.' This is not a valid criticism about the actual quality of the series, it has nothing to do with the actual content or plot of the show.

[@Keaixiaoen0919]

I consider GT to be similar to the Star wars prequels. they are very flawed but they did bring a lot of interesting things to the franchise they are a part of and I can't imagine the franchise without many of those things.

[@Cousinbiddy1]

No the Star Wars prequels we’re much better than gt since the creator was involed in the prequels at least

[@fridaynightnicktoons6885]

Very flawed? No. They’re slightly flawed at best. VERY flawed would be dragonball super (anime,manga is better written,although I like both versions of dbs) or the force awakens/sequel trilogy in general….”….somehow palpatine returned” Gt has no more flaws then z. Pt had no more flaws then the ot. But dbs and sequel trilogy? THOSE are VERY flawed!

[@fridaynightnicktoons6885]

@@Cousinbiddy1 dipshit toriyama WAS involved with gt. He did the base story of the first arc,all character designs and like the filler in DBZ he approved of the scripts and was a consultant. Only difference is there was no manga. Go in Kanzenshuu and educate yourself. Kids like you hating on gt but knowing nothing about it. Smh sad little troll.

[@XXMARIOXX-dk4po]

Youre cracked bud. Super is the star wars prequel

[@Cousinbiddy1]

@@XXMARIOXX-dk4po no it’s not

[@DanielisAwesome52]

Luud is actually a very fitting name for the series, Given Bulma (bloomers), Trunks, and BRA/Bulla and all the vegetable named Saiyans. It matches that scheme

[@rabeloresh]

The catfish reference and episode is the kind of thing that works in Japan and just sounds weird outside of its bubble, but it’s not bizarre by any means. Look up o-namezu and you’ll find out there’s a legend about cat fish causing earthquakes in feudal Japan. I know you’re just poking the story for the video, but it’s something that doesn’t sound so weird if you know about it.

[@ithinkitsvizbi]

That's really interesting, I was unaware of that.

[@chouyuugoureplays3546]

see also the gen 3 water/ground pokemon whiscash (jp name: namazun)

[@JesusChrist-pd9py]

Say what you want but GT understood what Dragon Ball was and even if it's silly or whatever and it's not your thing, you can at least appreciate the fact that it didn't have the insane character assassination and the multiple retcons of Super

[@kingbeauregard]

There are parts of GT that didn't work for me, but here are the things I liked: 1) It brings back some of the feel of old old DB, back when Goku was a kid and they were traveling the world and meeting weirdos. A lot of people who grew up on DBZ alone don't enjoy those parts, but I do. 2) I find that GT is willing to explore the themes of Dragonball, and take them in thematically appropriate directions. For example, SSJ4 wasn't just about power creep. SSJ4 was (IMHO) about conquering rage, and Goku was able to achieve it because it's not in his nature to indulge in rage. It says something about Goku. (Also, fan theory: the Super Saiyan of legend was a Golden Oozaru.) 3) More thematic exploration: how the dragon balls were used to undo evil, and Goku and friends had to fight that evil. Or, in the case of the four star ball, Goku purified it just by having it in him. That's how the entire series worked: Goku's influence on others was to make them better, not worse. I approve. 4) Still more thematic exploration: the end of the era of dragon balls would mean the world finally learning to no longer need a Goku to protect it. So it fits that Goku would go away with the dragon balls; he was intrinsically part of them. 5) All the characters ended up in character-appropriate places. Yamcha traveling around with Puar like in the olden days, Krillen with Android 18, and even Piccolo in Hell (er, HFIL). Not that Piccolo would admit it, but I bet he likes being the guy who deals with the problems in Hell. He's well-suited to it, both in skills and temperament. We even got to see a post-Goku world, that was finally as it should be: with peace and happiness, no more threats, and martial arts simply for fun. And it's such a nice touch that Goku got to see that world. Would I have done GT differently? In a couple places, sure. But it could have been far, far worse. Take a look at Super and you won't find any of the things I liked about GT.

[@cooperinman7338]

😢😊 Lo

[@fallenabr7654]

Woah surely there's something more important around you big dog

[@mineshawn8960]

@@fallenabr7654Can someone not write a comment on something they’re passionate about? Talk about a party pooper.

[@L1z43vr]

I have to disagree with most of the points in here. Let's start with 1. Dragon Ball moved away from these things for a reason. Reason was that it simply wasn't working anymore. If they wanted to bring back this era of DB, they should have done it slowly, with the start of GT being more like Z, but midways through the first few arcs it's becoming more and more like the original, till at the end it's really close to the olden DB days. 2, I actually agree with this, but I personally think SSJ4's design was kinda weird. I feel like they should have gone with either golden fur or just have SSJ4 have the red aura to begin with. 3, I also agree with this point as well. 4, The world never needed a Goku to protect it. Hell, Gohan would be able to protect it just fine. Goten and Trunks as well if they trained hard enough, plus they have Gotenks. The Z-Fighters? Also Goku was _never_ intrinsically a part of the Dragon Balls, he grew up with one, but he was _never_ part of it. He only joined the quest because Bulma walked up to him and he decided to help. 5, I _heavily_ disagree with this. Yamcha and Puar have long grown past the days of travelling around. Krillin and Android 18, I get, so I don't disagree there. Piccolo being in hell is somewhat fitting, but considering the good he's done, especially with him being Gohan's babysitter in early Z, I think he should have stayed in heaven. Also, I don't think a post-Goku world would be filled with peace and happiness with no more threats. Remember the Majin Buu saga? That thing would have happened _regardless_ if Goku was there or not, Kibito and Shin's appearence, heck, even Super's Future Trunks' version of the Buu Saga proved that. Goku ain't the cause for the problems in DB, and a post-Goku world wouldn't be as peaceful like that, I think it'd be harder for the Z-Warriors to fight. Oh well, at least it would be Gohan's time to shine. Say what you will about Super, but at least it expanded the lore of Dragon Ball, adding in new universes, GoDs, heck even Ultra Instinct is theorized to be something _anyone_ can achieve, but it's super hard. The transformations might be a little lazy, but honestly, they make sense. SSJG is basically the ultimate act of selflessness (entrusting your heart into someone) and SSJB is the pinnacle of self control (you gotta control that Ki so it won't leak). Honestly I like these concepts far more than "A transformation suddenly makes me grow to my adult size", which was kinda dumb IMO.

[@shamainebest4031]

​@@L1z43vr Golden fur would look good but just be really weird and tacky, red actually makes the most sense as red = rage.

[@Drumicall]

At least GT ended the show

[@chinchingarcia7311]

Ended so boring

[@hbshadow8981]

@@chinchingarcia7311 ur opinion To me it ended very heart breaking

[@user-wi9se5ll3j]

@@hbshadow8981The only part I would take out would be the dragon and keeping him a kid. Also they seated up another story with Goku, Goku and Vegeta Jr.

[@rentezfarcomarco5102]

@@chinchingarcia7311 po

[@FN64Productions]

Damn take that Akira Toriyama

[@mariozappini7784]

Watching GT with the ENG dub and watching GT with subs is a completely different experience, not only acting wise (krillin's death scene in the ENG dub is acted so bad it almost ruins it compared to the original) but the music especially, the SSJ4 transformation just flows so well with the OG score and the ENG one ruined it.

[@tylerwilkey13]

the disc box set has the option of english voices with the original soundtrack and it’s incredible

[@mariozappini7784]

@@tylerwilkey13 That's a nice feature, but it doesn't fix the terrible 18's voice acting when Krillin dies 💀

[@thatsalocalwayofbreakingth424]

I didn't find the acting in the English dub of GT bad for the most part. Sure, that specific scene you mentioned is mediocre (on 18's part at least, I think Krillin and 17 voice actors did a good job) but for the most part, I think it's pretty good, certainly better than the Z dub. What is awful though is the dialogues. For example, in this scene you mentioned, Krillin in the English dub before dying said "You resented Dr Gero because he gave you human emotions". Seriously ? Him and 18 were humans before Gero "reconstructed" (term used in the japanese version of this scene) them. Also, 17 kills Krillin because he convinced him to renounce bringing back 18 on his side but in the japanese version, it's because he annoyed him by trying to reason with him. This scene is one example but there are lots of others. And even if you watch GT English dub with the original music, it won't fix the dialogue and it would arguably be worse than watching it with the Menza score (which btw, is the only English dub exclusive soundtrack that I dislike heavily, I still love Faulconer Productions score, I like some of the movies scores and I'm fine with Nathan Johnson Z score). Because the English dub tone will clash with the original Japanese version tone quite a lot (just like with the Z dub). The mediocre sound mixing of the English dub with Japanese music (with the music volume often being very low compared to the voices and SFX) and the bad sound quality of the music in the last 12 episodes doesn't help either.

[@JT-vh7yh]

Japanese dub is better but it uses the SAME MUSIC 24/7

[@hsblw_6]

I think all of DB in English is pure trash, only good thing is TFS re-dub. I'm from Brazil and grew up with the Brazilian dub, after watching super in Japanese now I can't stand the br dub, for me both of the dubs could be thrown in the trash can.

[@vDorgengoa]

20:17 I didn’t even see the Pan scene like that until your facial expression lmfaooo

[@christianhays2238]

The Dolltaki creep literally lifts her shirt when "changing her" while she's stuck as a doll and does a surprised I saw boobs face. The episodes did come out before Japan updated their age of consent, which used to be 13 until about a year ago 🤮😬

[@SaiyanScholar]

Great review and honest. I can respect that. There were parts that even I skip in GT (Lord Luud and Zoonama). Just too weird. Although, a majority of Dragon Ball "humour" is incredibly weird in general. I'm a huge fan of GT Vegeta and his progression. I could go on and on about why I love the Series but I'll just end it on this... GT ended on a high note. A mysterious, yet satisfying ending to Son Goku. Having the balls to wrap up his story when it was time to hang up the Gi. The final act is what stays with us in most things. And through the ups and downs, I'm happy with GT being the end to classic Dragon Ball. It's not everyone's cup of tea and that's fine. But if you haven't, then definitely give the Original Dub/OST a shot before final judgement. It's the soul of the Series. And the only Dragon Ball Series that Akira Toriyama has publicly praised 3 times. Until we meet again.

[@OhioButtShakerGyattMachine9000]

Nobody asked GTtard, ssj3 dbs goku solos GT effortlessly, deal with it🤣

[@andrevaughn6980]

Agreed

[@XXXSamuraiX]

If there's a GT video you know good old saiyan scholars going to comment on it. Cuz he's a God damn role model!!

[@thewitness257]

It's the god damn role model himself, sup bro

[@ispitfactsnevertookanyls2284]

Toriyama also said he’d peep on his own daughter

[@drinkduff6536]

I don't care what anyone thinks, I watched every episode of DBGT and loved it too. Non canon or not Dragon Ball GT is great in my eyes. Dragon Ball O.G., Z, GT, and Super brought sunshine and happiness into my soul and they all helped me through dark times. Akira Toriyama-San I thank you so much for your imagination.

[@bofasofa9399]

Exactly, I have all of the blue ray box sets for Dragonball, DBZ, and DBGT. True fans appreciate anything dragonball related

[@spencerahrendts7778]

Super is fuckin trash bro

[@faridsubchannel5061]

What if dbgt is canon but only in second timeliness

[@XxArcanaHeartLover98XtendxX]

@Rellyali1987 YEP lol

[@XWXS2]

Gt is more Canon for me than super because super is super trash it was always a part in the story if you play any dragonball game especially tenkaichi and budokai you knew if you got near gt arc you get the most badass characters to play.

[@luizkorynga]

8:45 "Peoples who fought against Frieza, Cell and Majin Buu..." Goku with a kid body? Pan hadn't been born and Trunks just fought against Buu, who are these people you talk about?

[@soleiltounsi6754]

Trunks was only 8 years old, Goku fought almost all the time, Pan wasn't even conceived. That guy hate DBGT.

[@Acrosurge]

For me, a fan who watched Dragon Ball in the 90s, GT was a complete miss. The music is dull, the action is boring, the power scaling is 100 times less consistent than Super, Pan is unwatchable, the plot utter stupidity, and none of the humor lands. I disliked SS4 then. I dislike it now.

[@andyphillips1723]

Super Saiyan 4 always looked like trash. I remember seeing it for the first time back in the day and thinking it was the absolute worst fan art I'd ever seen.

[@unknownuser6757]

I think they made Goku a kid so he’d be weaker so other side characters could get time to shine. Maybe at the start that was the plan

[@jermaineallen2879]

Agreed since he couldn’t hold some of his forms very long

[@lapplandkun9273]

@@jermaineallen2879 He couldn't hold ssj3 for quite some time. He could hold ssj and presumably ssj2 with no difficultly. It was just that ssj3 was too draining and his younger body did not help

[@cjuszekcziczi3290]

Nope, the sole reason for kid goku form was to appeal to young audience

[@cjuszekcziczi3290]

@Chocolate Sandwich thats how most things work. Pretty sure the thought process was "goku and his audience has grown up, how do we make him viable for kids show" and then everything else worked around that idea

[@harleyzeth]

No they wanted a kid Saiyan, but Gohan and Goten were too old, and pan is a girl so she's irrelevant to the mostly young male audience. Turning Goku into a kid was the cheapest, easiest fix.

[@nathanstraley896]

Considering Piccolo forgot he could enlarge himself in "Super Hero" movie, him forgetting black star balls makes perfect sense, especially when the fact that there was probably at least a century or more from the time of Kami and Demon King Piccolo being split

[@ChristSaves984]

Nah that’s different piccolo forgot that he could enlarge because it is useless in battle against a stronger opponent and you just make yourself slower and a bigger target. With Cell max it just evened the playing field. The dragon balls tho is just lazy writing.

[@nathanstraley896]

@@ChristSaves984 nah, my answer better

[@ChristSaves984]

@@nathanstraley896 nah it isn’t. Piccolo is one of the smartest characters in dragon ball and for him to forget something so important is ridiculous. He isn’t human so you can’t even use the argument oh people forget stuff all the time XD. And even if piccolo forgot he fused with kami the literal god of earth, you mean to tell me it makes sense for kami to forget too both just forgot about it XD. They remember the normal dragons balls but totally forgot about black star dragon balls XD. Nonsense

[@nathanstraley896]

@@ChristSaves984 the only reason piccolo forgot he could gigantify was because Akira Toriyama forgot. So if he forgot black star balls existed would fit right in line. I mean, Launch left the series ONLY because Toriyama forgot. Characters be forgetting stuff all the time only because Toriyama does

[@ChristSaves984]

@@nathanstraley896 no what use would enlarging have? It doesn’t make his power higher like when a sayian becomes great ape. It would have done nothing useful therefore it being not needed makes it easier to believe that piccolo forgot about it. Like honestly what would it do against Frieza, Androids, cell, or buu XD. Nothing that’s what just make him a walking target. The black star dragon balls just popping up oh important object that everyone forgot about is stupid. King kai, dende, kami and piccolo knowing they existed oh we all just forgot or never knew until became a threat XD what nonsense. GT just fails that logic. It’s like if Super say Oh well supreme kai knew of the super dragon balls and he just forgot about them. All those years looking for buu and instead of using the super dragon balls to destroy buu wherever he was dormant. It would make super complete nonsense

[@thelittlebosniaexperience8181]

After Super, if they remade the Shadow Dragon story literally every dragon’s origin would be from one of Bulma’s wishes to look younger

[@humanman9920]

lol

[@AlirezaR5]

The worst part in my opinion is characters and their behavior and personalities. like Goku isn't like the real Goku Akira toriyama created. for example Goku wouldn't fuck around and laugh when his grandchild is in danger. or like becomes what? when he misses an attack in a serious situation. and Vegeta you said that was good, Vegeta was a fucking bad ass and they really made him weak and lose his pride. Vegeta never never would let a baby name thing take over his body ! the only good things in GT was SSJ4 cool design and the last arc.

[@aarnwaltne]

Can always respect a family man making DB content 👍🏽

[@dio-sama8160]

"A few cells short from perfection," is what had me dying. Along with the freeze frame on Cell's face. I was out here crying bro 🤣 💀

[@fredv6237]

The ending of GT, very emotional, SSJ4, very badass, the Baby saga's final fight, Gogeta, the farewell scenes. Those are the only things good about it. I don't know why some folks still clap for it. Of course DBS isn't that nuanced either, but damn, the fanbase loves to fight over it.

[@banjo9158]

There were way more good moments on GT, honestly i'll never understand the hate/bias people have so hard agains't GT, i think super have as much problems if not more, then GT.

[@fnspidey3825]

@@banjo9158 That's debatable but they're both good additions in their own right

[@banjo9158]

@@fnspidey3825 yeah, i think both GT and Super add good stuff for the franchise for sure.

[@kimitohanahala8674]

I like GT and hate Super

[@Cousinbiddy1]

No the ending of gt was bullshit

[@nuclearcrayons3511]

GT was better than Super. The characters actually changed over time and aged. Unlike in super where even Roshi appears to be immoral

[@MrDonbee30]

in Super they do not age so much because it takes place almost right after Bu death if I'm not mistaken

[@freeziboi3249]

I'm glad for all the stuff gt introduced atleast, if not for the show we wouldn't have the best transformation and form imo. And one of the most badass lines for an ultimate attack. "I'll send you to the next world with this, TIMES ONE HUNDREEEEED" always sends chills down my spine :D

[@ithinkitsvizbi]

aint no arguing with that one amigo!

[@horizon8618]

@@ithinkitsvizbi I think you should watch the Japanese to understand the information of certain things, because in the dub they don't be too specific enough.

[@ithinkitsvizbi]

@@horizon8618 For sure. I'll have to give it a shot!

[@horizon8618]

@@ithinkitsvizbi Yeah.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Man the quality of this video is on par with bigger KZbinrs like This is Not Mark when he use to do DB videos. Amazing job man! Hope you keep at it with these video essays here.

[@ithinkitsvizbi]

Thank you so much for the kind words!

[@shoresean1237]

So once upon a time, there was a show that ran for over a decade, well-beloved and known for a change of tone from its early days, with an ever-changing secondary cast while keeping its core people. Ran for well over 200 episodes, and the finale was well-received yet also heart-tugging . A short time later, fans were introduced to the follow-up show, focusing on only three of the prior cast, off in a brand new place and brand new situation. Started out even enough, but then they tried to make the after-show 'wacky' like the early seasons of the first show had been. And it tanked, running less than 1/8th of the time the original had. Those shows were: MASH and AfterMASH. 251 versus 30 episodes, plus a failed pilot for Radar. So it didn't just happen to DB. Sometimes, you just need to leave a tender surgeon or saiyan alone.

[@parlinmains]

Happened to Scrubs too.

[@grantkelley3372]

If this isn’t a copypasta and this is something directly from you, I am blown away. You have a genuine talent with writing and observation and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise

[@shoresean1237]

@@grantkelley3372 So far as I know, this is entirely mine, as I have a love of MASH that predates all but a few of my fandoms, to the point where much of my xover fic is based on MASH. In fact AfterMASH even has character derailment - Klinger reverted his character progress and Mrs. Potter became a dimwit when they replaced her actress.

[@grantkelley3372]

@@shoresean1237 Well if you ever use your writing or evaluation skills for any videos or articles I would love to check them out.

[@shoresean1237]

@@grantkelley3372 I've done some character study essays on the wiki I admin for my fave anime, Elfen Lied, but it is not widely popular.

[@black.sasuke.uchiha]

Love the ending, I subscribed! Hope you reach 9K soon!

[@dybixs1400]

Absolute great video, the quality is so good I thought this was a regular big DB channel but it's quite a small one, I think the views and reception on this video shows the great job you did

[@dyingEnet]

I like how most reviews of GT are from the perspective of a z fanboy without any self-awareness.

[@M3rtyville]

the best way anyone put it so far in the comments.

[@iRazenrak]

With the catfish guy, assuming he could predict earthquakes hours or even days ahead of time, he could plan all of his visits accordingly. He could be more patient with the villagers and spend more time harassing them if an earthquake isn't due for another few minutes, and then lose his temper like an animal when one was seconds away. It adds to the fear the villagers had of him.

[@bigbadsauce92]

10:50 proof of you being a hypocrite, you condemn GT for basing Dr Myuu's design on Dr Gero when ALL OF DBZ *and* parts of super is a reskin of old DB characters already seen... Like we've got 70 fking versions of Goku not even counting his look alikes that are not related or clones or multiverse characters. You are openly biased to GT because of what you've seen on the internet and meme culture surrounding it. I don't feel like this video is an honest review/critique of GT, I feel like it's a completely embellished fluff piece designed to maximize engagement by memeing on the "meme DB show".

[@killinghawkz]

Dat universe 6 frieza lol

[@Valtaoi_007]

20:21 the look of disgust mixed with genuine despair on his face made me laugh more than it should

[@JaguarCats]

Here's a few questions about the Blackstar Dragon Balls...why didn't Kami/Piccolo just destroy them if they were so dangerous? And whats more, how is it that Bulma's dragon radar NEVER detected them? We see later on that they show up on the radar, so how is it that her radar missed them each and every time she was at the Lookout? Also how did Emperor Pilaf and his gang get up there in the first place? Wsan't it made clear early on that unless the Earth's Guardian allowed it that no man made vehicle could safely reach the Lookout? Also...How'd they even find these Blackstar Dragon balls in the first place? Lastly once they were regathered, why not go to a uninhabited planet and use the balls there to restore Goku to normal and kill two birds with one stone? The balls would be safely scattered across the galaxy and whats more there'd be little to no danger of anyone ever gathering them again.

[@qwopiretyu]

You put more thought into it than Toriyama ever did. "Rules" like "no manmade vehicle can reach my domain as I am in control of every aspect of it" are very Journey to the West coded. They matter for the episode they are spoken in but otherwise don't exist.

[@mbii7667]

​@@qwopiretyu Toriyama didn't create GT

[@davidgallo2919]

GT episode 64, the ending: earth is saved and Goku leaves for good 14 y/o me: shut up.....I'm not crying, your crying

[@HumbertoHernandez]

Man, is this what the english dub for DB sounds like? Damn, it sounds like they are just reading a script. No emotion imprinted. Sometimes feels cringy.

[@Milty2001]

What I love about gt is that vegeta turns from a evil guy just wanting all the power of the dragon ball to himself to becoming someone that tries to compete with goku over who's strong to finally accepting that goku is better than him and turns into a family man he's changed alot but the introduction to super saiyan 4 and gogeta are fantastic, the baby arc as silly as the name sounds he's one of the only villains I remember that has a past that effected him tremendously which is why he's evil other villains like frieza and cell or buu were evil just because the story demands it but baby felt like a genuine threat

[@terrillwilliams1515]

13:11 that is a very minut point. They rehashed Broly in Dragon Ball super Broly but nobody complains about that and I guarantee you that you love dragon ball super broly. So the idea that they reuse something is it inherently bad. That's just you having your own subjective bias on the matter. Especially when they open up hell so Goku can go fight but he be trapped in there while everybody runs amok on Earth. This was an intentional devised the plan unlike Janemba who just turned everything into jelly beans and the plot was just a mirror causation of Janemba sealing off the checking station. They also brought back Frieza in Resurrection F so is that going to be a redundant thing to do? Broly too?

[@hbshadow8981]

Dont forget cell Brought him back for new movie (not the cell we know though)

[@johnman8398]

The difference is that the examples you brought up with Super were either a good enough improvement over what was done originally or different enough to at least make the rehash mostly forgivable whereas GT's rehash was just lazy and was arguably worse than what went on in Fusion Reborn.

[@terrillwilliams1515]

@@johnman8398 actually Broly was not an improvement but instead a downgrade because they made Vegeta IV more cowardly and jealous, they stripped Broly of his Legendary Super Saiyan Mythos, essentially the purpose of the movie was to create a cool fight and music. While I am all for that the film didn't add anything we hadn't already gotten from Dragon Ball Z Broly the Legendary Super Saiyan. Just like Trunks and his new transformation from the Goku black Saga Broly and his humanoid ozaru power just came out of nowhere with little to no explanation of how this transformation is done without blutz waves or a tail. To keep it short the rehashed the more and explained less. Frieza is more forgivable. However how they tried to start off the whole Goku and Vegeta really fell off and defined the series. They tried to make it seem like Vegeta and Goku were somewhat Polar Opposites of each other in a martial arts sense but here we have Vegeta pulling the same mistake as Goku which ultimately allowed planet Earth to die by frieza's hands. This is a mistake that gets carried out all the way even into the moro saga where he just holds a conversation with him instead of finishing him off. At least Dragon Ball GT didn't actively do disservice to vegeta. It was better for him to not be shown as much instead of actively being disrespected by the writers. You know it's bad when they make a transformation based off of him getting beat up and lose. So literally they now make Vegeta desire to get beat up. On another note they even try to create this thing where Goku and Vegeta should be trying to team up with each other but they dedicated the next sagas to them having solo battles and only teaming up against jiren in the end. Quite frankly this is a habit by Dragon Ball super to write things that can be taken out and not change a thing. Instead that amount of time can be used for expanding upon something else that can be written into something more useful for the series. I'd argue that the rehash of Fusion Reborn was done better because they made the villains being released an intentional active part of their plans to carry out to destroy some goku. In the film they were just released on accident. On top of that the Super 17 Saga does a really amazing job and not wasting time showing off the powers of the villains and achieving that power as well. Basically the power demonstrated here was their ability to merge The Living World and after life together and because they were merged when the villains from Hell came to Earth and were killed again they could just come right back which showcased how drastically Android 17 and cyborg-17 affected the macrocosm and its balance of life and death via their raw power instead of sealing off the checking station. GT likes to make things come full circle instead of Just Happening as a result of somebody's passive power.

[@ispitfactsnevertookanyls2284]

@@terrillwilliams1515 Get GT’s meat out of your mouth. There’s no way anyone watches Cell and Freeza getting dog walked in hell and then thinks “ This is peak” unless they’re a GT fan. 17 fusing the living world and the afterlife is the dumbest thing ever.

[@nineteenct]

Dolltaki’s fascination with girls turned into dolls against their will came across extremely creepy on my recent rewatch. Just everything about the character was so unsettling and useless

[@187btokes]

You mean it wasn't creepy the first time you watched it? That shit was creepy when I saw it in 98 and I was like 6

[@nineteenct]

@@187btokes Honestly its one of those things I’d long since forgot about. Like the name “Lord Luud” was oddly familiar but I had basically no recollection of the arc

[@NoFapKing]

Ah yes, dolltaki the molester

[@kinganarkzie]

I believe that it was intentional, the character is apparently based on some kind Japanese cultural thing of guys that collect dolls or something. As much as I love DB it's got a lot of problems like this, Roshi and his general pervasive for example. Even only going back a few years to Super when he beat one of his opponents because she was scared he would rape her.

[@187btokes]

@@nineteenct true

[@Atea1793]

SSJ4, Bulla, Vegeta's development, and the Baby arc are pretty solid. But everything else about GT? NO THANK YOU...

I watched GT with sub when I was a kid. Growing up i don't understand why people hate it so much. GT is enjoyable. For a DBZ fan GT was the last ever piece of DB back then. The design are good for most of characters.

[@eli_da_man_]

The cutaway of pan and that deer had me laughing so damn hard 🤣 great video man!

[@mortalballgt52]

I personally suggest watching the show in Japanese just for a much more unique experience. Especially with the voice acting.

[@WingMaster562]

Also turning off english subs, then hear the "dub < sub" puritans climax in the distance.

[@humanman9920]

Bruh Pan's voice alone sounds so much more annoying in the dub .

[@odeiofunkdeputariarum851]

changing to sub won't change the writting my friend

[@mortalballgt52]

@@odeiofunkdeputariarum851 it will change character personalities

[@notabigdealthough8616]

Nah the VA is good

[@PerfectBuga]

Hey mate, what a good intro, what an awesome video, I really enjoyed watching it

[@HappyElsen]

I think for all its shortcomings, that GTs ending will stick with me forever. I always loved to see the comfortable chill moments of the Son family at home during times of peace, and I wanted that for them, but it just... won't be that way, I guess? Goku's like... at his core he's supposed to be the embodiment of wonder and magic and stuff, his journey just never ends and he's excited for it. Like how Piccolo said at the end of the Cell Saga when Goku decided not to be wished back to life, he was like "There's our Goku, leaving the rest of us behind to go off on another adventure". I think Goku will just always have that super bittersweet kind of departure no matter what part of the series might be ending. It slaps me in the heart every single time he goes, whether it be to Otherworld, with Uub, with Shenron, no matter what it always makes me so emotional lmao. He's just excited to explore, as he always was as a child, which is sweet but damn. Closing a chapter in life and seeing him leave all his friends and family behind just feels SO fucking sad, but he's always smiling when it happens, and the characters always remember him fondly for it.

[@jaygomex]

Yh the ending hurt though 😢

[@DeathRobotKailozo]

Great vid! Came across you in my feed and am glad for it. Hope the algorithm blesses you. GT is an acquired taste. When it first came out, I was just happy to finally see it. Unfortunately it was right after I left home for Basic Training and I never got a real chance to watch it. In the intervening years, I’ve managed to catch pieces of it. This might make me go through for real. Super job.

[@ithinkitsvizbi]

Hey partner, thank you so much for the kind words! I really appreciate it! But most importantly, thank you for your service so that nerds like me can watch this stuff!

[@KrayzieMofoGuy]

Initially I didn't appreciate GT because of how high a bar Z set, but honestly I respect that GT tried to be ambitious in its story telling. Dragon Ball Super resorted to bringing back dead villains whose storylines were already completed (Frieza) and relying on Goku and Vegeta just like Z did.

[@supersaiyaman11589]

dragon ball super made new transformations for the hero and dragon ball super made more universes that have yet to be fully explored.dragon ball is gokus story so ya they are going to focus on goku a lot that is not a bad thing. vegeta is a good supporting character that does not get nearly enough screen time.

[@Manoj-wg5zp]

We literally had Superhero Movie recently focussing on PICCOLO AND GOHAN lol

[@chrisanok9283]

Super is.corny

[@fudgenugget8875]

You didn't talk about Piccolo permanently dying and going to HFIL/Hell and his emotional connection with Gohan.

[@marvinguzman924]

23:01 The scene where Vegeta got impaled by Omega’s spikes was by far one of the most memorable ones too. The gruesome sight of vegetas agony was a nice detail of seriousness to the show. 10/10 💯

[@hyperion3145]

I thought I was the only one who thought that Pan had some really eyebrow raising moments. Seeing that again makes me remember the creepy G+ groups around her that was full of clips like 20:16, it's like they tried to have the kind of pervy humor the OG had but weren't really sure of why it was funny.

[@tuvout6844]

Dragonball and DBZ had its share of pedo moments. It just happens

[@viscountrainbows2857]

The difference between the pervy moments in the OG and Z were that at least those getting perved on were of ostensibly legal age. ...usually. *cries in Bulma hitting on Trunks*

[@MomoKanjaki]

@@viscountrainbows2857 I mean... Trunks was like 18 during that time he visited.🤣

[@viscountrainbows2857]

@@MomoKanjaki ah Kay, phew. I mean, DBZ notoriously plays it fast and loose with the term "teen" as Gohan was like, 11 or 12 when he beat Cell, and his "adult" form was still a senior in high school which would place him more likely at 17.

[@MomoKanjaki]

@@viscountrainbows2857 Yeah age in the dragon ball franchise is all over the place. Lol But I wonder if it was an American thing because I don't think they messed up saying he was a teen in the Japanese version. But then again, Trunks and Goten still being small after Z, and Dende once being a teen in the buu saga only to shrink afterwards is a head scratcher as well. Future Trunks' age at least stayed consistent tho. Lol

[@terrillwilliams1515]

14:29 this is mishandled information. The dragon balls broke not only because of the minus power building up within but because both Cyborg and Android 17 merged the afterlife and living world together. It seems like this guy looked at the beginning of an arc then the end of it, made a review on it, them when needed he would just fill in the middle part with what he thinks happened.

[@humanman9920]

Yeah he didn't remember a couple of things .

[@freee63]

The original direction for GT was to take the franchise back to it's roots and make it more adventure focused like DB. After seeing how low the tv ratings were, plans for later episodes were scrapped and they decided to make it more action focused like DBZ, that's why the tone changes around episode 16. The Shadow Dragon saga was written once it was clear the series would not be renewed for another season, so it was written to be an ending for the franchise as a whole. All these last minute changes is probably why there are so many issues with the pacing and animation.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

20:26 there were HEAPS of really weird moments with Pan.

[@Psycho-Ssnake]

It IS anime after all, so...

[@dragonf1re96]

​@@Psycho-SsnakeFr, everyone hating on gt did not watch db or dbz

[@BrickFighter13]

Japan always and STILL been on some freak shit that I still don’t understand why.

[@mbii7667]

​@@BrickFighter13stop being lame

[@mayyoufindlove702]

The main problem is that the audience expected constant training and fighting like in dbz, they definetly tried a sort of reboot of the original DB, which was a great idea.

[@pn2294]

Precisely why I loved it

[@holysparkbatman]

@@pn2294 same I love Z and super but growing up with Dragon Ball I loved it.

[@Stefantius]

People hate this but eat up Super, its actually insane lol

[@ENVE5]

It IS weird, but much like DBZ, it has so much nostalgia bait. There is almost nothing I hate about the GT story, animation or writing. That being said, I 100% understand you take. You aren't wrong about anything, but I still love it, bhahaha.

[@kid2kinggaming170]

My thoughts on GT: Good ideas, poor execution.

[@trollnips9405]

GT always seemed to me like it was trying to combine the 2 previous serieses together. The writing a goofy humor of DB. Even having Goku be a kid. And then the action of Z. The problem is that the bad goofy writing takes away from the action. Also, Goku being a kid would have been fine for 1 arc. But definitely should not have stayed a kid throughout the series. With the only way for him to be a grownup is to go SS4? Bizarre. Like the Great Deity Mask in LoZ Majora's Mask. What GT should have tried to do is build on an issue that Goku was concerned about at the end of Z. He was concerned that his and Vegeta's kids have no interest in building up their strength. No interest in becoming the next generation of Earth's defenders. It could have built on that. Maybe have a battle on Earth snap Goten back into wanting to be a fighter, similar to what happened with Gohan in Super. There could have been an intergalactic tournament Goku entered to achieve something. An appearance of teen Gotenks. Trunks could have had a costume change and stopped wearing those stupid shorts. Pan and Goten having some kinda epic teamup with Uub would have been great.

[@shadowdio1338]

Im confused on how goku just got a super saiyan in dragon ball gt im on episode 5 and is there a movie where he train?

[@terrillwilliams1515]

5:25 the purpose of him not being there is so the team doesn't have access to Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks. On top of that's Dragon Ball GT was able to do what no other series was able to do and that is making Goten and Trunks separate characters instead of a Duo. It was always Goten and Trunks even in Dragon Ball super it was Goten and trunks. When we see them we always just expect Gotenks to pop out of somewhere. However thanks to Dragon Ball GT they were able to take both characters and write them as their own characters that develop instead of remaining kids and always being known or cared about when the other is on screen.

[@shadowsansvii8715]

Eh I disagree with that. I get that the point was that they could develop as their own characters. But here is the problem, they didn’t develop at all. Trunks just became future trunks in terms of personality at the end of Z. And he does not grow as a character throughout the whole series. And Goten gets very little screen time and also doesn’t develop throughout the course of the series. He changed before it started, just like trunks. There is no development here, there was no point in doing this other then to nerf the team by not having gotenks. But even then, Goku is still getting ridiculously strong. It was a bad decision. The idea was there, but it was executed poorly.

[@yungblade7]

Goten even said in GT that he could kill baby when he first arrived but then he was tricked.

[@humanman9920]

@@shadowsansvii8715 He is kinda well grown at that point doesn't need much more growth to be interesting although there's a subtle growth in him understanding and looking out for Pan in the first arc . Same thing with Goten , i don't think there's much problem with their personalities but that they didn't get much cool scenes in fights against strong villains .

[@humanman9920]

@@yungblade7 Did he say it? I don't remember that well but it was pretty clear that Baby was no match for any of them and had to trick his way in every one of them . The powerscaling went like this . Baby

[@lapplandkun9273]

@@shadowsansvii8715 incorrect. GT trunks becomes his own person instead of a brat. Instead of the pampered spoiled kid in Z, he is a more mature, though still spoiled and incredibly lazy teen in GT. Him being the president of capsule corp also showed that he was growing more mature. Goten also changed. Again, we can disagree on what he has become, but no one can deny he matured. No one has to like goten's personality in GT as a ladies man, just that him and trunks both matured quite a bit. You're looking at them as fighters, not their own individual characters beyond fighting. Also, like it or not, Gotenks is a marketing decision made by toei because goten and trunks have no characters of their own in either Z or DBS. And they have just as much screen time as they had in GT. The Super Hero movie doesn't count. Why did DBFZ choose to include gotenks as a playable fighter instead of goten and trunks and on top of that, in his ssj3 form? Because they're not well known besides the fusion between them. Their fusion is known for what he did in Z. Super didn't do anything better than GT with their character. Saying DBS gave them fights is incorrect. That's their fusion, and its been established that the fusion are separate characters from their fusees. Even then, they didn't win any fight. They were played off as comedic reliefs with no importance or relevance.

[@Capnlosdos]

I like that gt exists. Even though it’s not canon it offers an alternative ending that actually kinda ends as opposed to super ya know