Dragon Rising: Guide to China's Modern Infantry Squads | Organization

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Music:
• Call of Duty 2, Medal of Honor: Pacific Asslt, Day of Infamy, Wargame: Red Dragon OSTs
Sources:
• Various Chinese Media Outlets
• "An Introduction to China’s High-Mobility Combined Arms Battalion Concept" by Joshua Arostegui
Intro: (0:00)
Overview: (0:34)
Heavy Infantry: (2:44)
Medium Infantry: (7:02)
Light Infantry: (7:41)

[@BattleOrder]

As a side note, there is another squad organization floating around that's 10-men with 1 Squad Leader (with a UBGL), 1 Deputy Squad (with a UBGL) Leader, 2 SAW Gunners, and the remainder riflemen. However, I've only seen this in one place (and copy pasted from it elsewhere) with no supporting photos so it is not included in the video.

[@pyeitme508]

Ok yet would prefer u talk about the 21st century US Armed Forces squad from the Army to Marine Corp.

[@chinmaysharma9213]

i can help with primary or secondary sources if you decide to do india

[@WellBattle6]

Peter Yim The US army squad is already covered in the from WW1 to Modern video.

[@WellBattle6]

Cameron Campbell Basically the Japanese in WW2 had three lmgs and three light mortars per platoon, with the light mortars concentrated in a weapon squad while each rifle squad received an lmg. Thus in Imperial Japanese infantry doctrine, mortars were king.

[@eee9034]

Happy Taiwan National Day

[@motardsanonymous748]

This channel is absolutely golden.

[@BattleOrder]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@eee9034]

Happy Taiwan National Day

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Amen to that!

[@emelyarye2641]

EE E LOL, not the best video to watch for that hahaha

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@@emelyarye2641 what's better?

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[@KenshiroPlayDotA]

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[@KenshiroPlayDotA]

@098765 Craper *Blind recon units intensifies*

[@KenshiroPlayDotA]

@098765 Craper *Arty taking hours to receive fire coordinates intensifies*

[@KenshiroPlayDotA]

@098765 Craper *Unicorn units created by Eugen intensifies*

[@Kriegter]

you translated designated marksman to "godly shooter" which roughly means "pro 360 no-scope"

[@user-wb7ez9ud4p]

LOL you're technically right but we don't know if that's the actual name of the role in the military. Man I wish I could find out, too bad I don't have the time to join the army.

[@SomeBody-rm6hf]

@@user-wb7ez9ud4p 你是从中国来的吗？

[@krk_uts3]

well in PLA, sharpshooter is translated into '精确射手', while '神射手' is honor to elite snipers.

[@charlielee5906]

Now that’s a pro gamer move

[@user-uv5ld3cx5t]

That was actually a commonly used term for sharpshooters (which also happen to be used synonymous with designated marksman in typical media)

[@nguyenbaokhiem6728]

It’s absolutely mind blowing to see how much the Chinese military has modernized over the past few decades.

[@arthas640]

Not that amazing considering the fact theyve adopted a "steal everything that isnt nailed down" approach to technology, intellectual property, and ideas and what they cant steal/copy they buy. Combine that with the fact they realized having a massive land army didnt matter jack when they saw Iraqs massive but poorly trained and modestly equipped army get slaughtered in Desert Storm so they realized they needed to downsize relative to their population and that extra funding they saved allowed them to modernize and their growing economy also helped alot. The fact they want to become an imperial power again makes it all the more important to have a strong, more elite military similar to what the british did (large militaries make it almost impossible to have an over seas empire while a small elite force makes it easier)

[@Jake-dh9qk]

@@arthas640 You do realize the NATO alliance including US practically outnumbered the Iraqis 8 to 1 in terms of manpower, vehicles, jets and naval assets used right? The Iraq war was literally a group of 10+ advanced nations bullying Iraq.

[@TKanal3]

@@arthas640 look the US military steals anything they dont have too. Its the only responsible thing to do. What do you want them to do? Risk their soldiers life just bc of moral concerns about “stealing” technology concepts?

[@hitmanyang319]

@@arthas640 check out all the nazi war criminals pardoned by the USA and Soviet union for the sake of knowledge. Where do you think a big portion USA’s advanced tech came from

[@arthas640]

@@hitmanyang319 They did cover up many Nazi's but people tend to overstate how much tech the US and Soviets took. The US had the Nazis beat in many fields by the end of the war and really the only areas the Germans were ahead in were jets and rockets, both things the US was already developing on their own but that the Germans could improve. Other areas the Germans excelled at were mostly civilians fields, like physics, and many of those scientists moved to the US willingly because the Germany economy was devastated, the US had some of if not the best research facilities and universities in the world, and the US could pay more then anyone else. People also tend to forget that the German aerospace industry was non existent after the war, it took years to even restart and decades to rebuild. Countries as far off as Argentina were hiring German engineers to start civilian aircraft industries or to refine their own domestic designs. Basically the US and Soviets used the Germans to advance their aircraft and rocket designs but that was pretty much it. The other stuff they "took" was just to compare to what they'd developed themselves. The Germans were really struggling towards the end on R&D so their later tech was actually inferior to what the Soviets and Americans made on their own so the German versions were just a curiosity and not some brand new thing

[@hooderik8699]

I'm so glad I discovered an unbiased and highly informal explanation on Chinese military units thank you, notifications on.

[@hooderik8699]

@Ding Dong ?

[@werther5757]

@Lum inosity cool let's carry out a nuclear genocide on the United States

[@NA-ck6cz]

@@werther5757 good man

[@jasonmabit5935]

same

[@Sone418]

Did this comment really trigger some people? Pathetic

[@MajorBookworm100]

8:20 that utility truck is adorable. Its like a chibi BTR-60!

[@kutter_ttl6786]

It looks like it fulfils a similar role as the British Supacat All Terrain Mobility Platform. A light, all terrain platform primarily used by airborne units.

[@voidoli212]

multiple variants packs much larger guns were developed from this platform for export purposes. there were MLRS, AA, 120mm howizer/mortar. Quite a potent vehicle.

[@shermanfirefly5410]

@@kutter_ttl6786 Actually, that little thing is developed on the Supercat platform PLA imported them and made a few changes to make the vehicle fit their requirement

[@yuyuyu25]

@@shermanfirefly5410 I thought it was based on the Argo 8x8

[@zihaoding4864]

you can actually mount a mortar on that thing, real fun

[@rickyy7802]

Awesome content. I think you’re the first person on the internet to introduce PLA squad compositions with such great details.

[@peekaboopeekaboo1165]

Only in English language .

[@pirotess2]

I would love to see Russian Motor Rifle again but at Regiment / Brigade and Division level, and the difference between Regiment and Brigade in Russia.

[@eee9034]

Happy Taiwan National Day

[@pirotess2]

@@LongVu-lh9el Thanks

[@bogdanbogdanoff5164]

@@LongVu-lh9el You forgot about 2 Air defence battalions in both regiments and brigades (they have the same equipment iirc). First one is called an "AA artillery-missile battalion" and has 6 artillery-missile vehicles (2S6 Tunguska or ZSU-23-4 Shilka with Igla missiles) and a sub-unit with a number of hand-held AA missiles. The second one is an "AA missile battalion" with just 12 2K35 Strela-10 vehicles, to be replaced with 12 9M337 Sosna-R. Sometimes important units have a different air defence system here. For example a 39th separate motor rifle brigade based in Sakhalin is armed with 8 S-300V systems here. Some others may have 12 Tor-M1-2/M2 missile defence systems.

[@bogdanbogdanoff5164]

@@LongVu-lh9el What you described as a "122mm gun, towed or on BMP" is actually a 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled gun. Towed D-30s are out of service in ground forces by now, they are only used for training, in VDV and Rosgvardia internal troops. There are also often 152mm self-propelled guns, like 2S3 and 2S19 in regiments instead of 2S1s, this used to be mostly in tank regiments, but nowadays it's also very common in rifles brigades, not sure about rifle regiments. It can be subject to change or variation though. There's also nuance, like motorized rifle regiments' tank battalions sometimes having 31 tanks (3 companies) instead of 41, like brigade tank battalions do. Also you're completely wrong about brigade artillery. They don't have "just one battalion" - they have, on paper, three. The Russian name for an artillery battalion is "дивизион", which obviously doesn't have nearly the same amount of personnel as an infantry battalion. Practically this means a brigade will have 36 self-propelled howitzers, usually 152mm and in the third, rocket artillery battalion there will be 18 BM-21 Grad or Tornado G 122mm MLRS.

[@jonseilim4321]

6:40 that auto grenade launcher looks like something out of Halo

[@BattleOrder]

If you think that's Halo google the QLB-06

[@jonseilim4321]

@@BattleOrder Now THAT looks like something 343 would design for infinite!

[@MrBlueBurd0451]

@@jonseilim4321 If you think either of those are Halo, look up the Denel NTW-20.

[@jonseilim4321]

@@MrBlueBurd0451 Yup! The prominent muzzle brake and carrying handle reminded me of the Denzel. Yet due to its massive barrel and large magazine, plus the rather industrial-looking buttstop, the grenade launcher presents a unique silhouette

[@eee9034]

Happy Taiwan National Day

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Your attention to detail, quality, ease of understanding/breaking down of topics of all your video subjects is both really educational and entertaining. The fact you only have about 20K subs is a crime. Keep up the awesome work 👏

[@KC_Smooth]

Americans just have to accept that even though Chinese copy and imitate everything we do, that does not mean we should underestimate them or take it as a sign of weakness. They are basically hitting the fast forward button to catch up and potentially surpass the US Military and the only way to do that is to copy what works best.

[@gavins9846]

It's honestly stupid to not copy from the best, especially in weapons development when survival takes precedence. "Yes we should reinvent our tech so to not trigger the netizens"

[@derrickchu8201]

It's not about copying, it's about reverse engineering. Just forget the process, the outcome counts.

[@berettaxd7566]

Basically they get our gear with none of the R&D costs.

[@derrickchu8201]

@@berettaxd7566 No you are wrong, don't take it too much for granted that everything is a sheer copy from you. Reverse engineering is a demanding job that very few of this world could do.

[@berettaxd7566]

@@derrickchu8201 I heard Israelis sold you guys the plans for our F35. Is that true?

[@davidduong5541]

Informative, unbiased, and nicely presented. Keep up the great work Battle Order!

[@Chris-cf3nj]

Loving modern Squad breakdowns man. Hope you do more.

[@tonywu1222]

Finally! A channel which does a review on Chinese infantry. Subscribed for your great content!

[@fracturedframe1462]

Its all fun and games until OF: Dragon Rising Becomes reality

[@andyboog2010]

Lol!! More like a slithering lizard. Easy to squash.

[@fracturedframe1462]

@@andyboog2010 hahaha

[@floydhuang220]

@@andyboog2010 Grandpa knows better durning Korean war

[@jayjay53313]

I thought this video is about new pc game Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising when I saw the thumbnail recommendation

[@fracturedframe1462]

@@jayjay53313 XD

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Awesome!

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Happy Taiwan National Day

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@@eee9034 Taiwan national day? is that a thing?

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Great video, I just hope East v West conflicts never get to the point of war. Both sides put the best people that their countries have to offer into their armed forces. The loss of human capital (i.e. lives) from war is irreplaceable because, paradoxically, the best people tend to die first. Hopefully we can keep it to war games, and flexing at each other on occasion.

[@_Matsimus_]

great video!! Wish I could report on Chinese stuff :-(

[@BattleOrder]

Why is that?

[@_Matsimus_]

@@BattleOrder why is what?

[@BattleOrder]

Why can't you report on Chinese stuff? lol

[@_Matsimus_]

@@BattleOrder my job lol

[@ravenkk4816]

@@_Matsimus_ law regarding secret? Or just ban on on book solider to report on foreign military as a principal?

[@catsfrommars]

Interesting breakdown, not a lot of solid info on their organizational structure so this is much appreciated.

[@obsidianstatue]

In the most recent equipment update, all the QBZ-95-1 service rifles will be replaced by QBZ-191 assault rifle, carbine and SAW. They are also ditching the UCP, in favor of terrain specific camo, 8:06 is one of the new camo.

[@buckplug2423]

Do you know why they ditched the bullpup?

[@kevintang5473]

​@@buckplug2423 To my knowledge QBZ-191 is supposed to replace QBZ-03(which never fielded in great numbers), intended more for the elite units, kinda like Army's HK416 or russian AN94. The qbz95a will still be the rifle for most regular units.

[@obsidianstatue]

@@kevintang5473 Where did you get that? because QBZ-191 is intended to be the service rifle to replace QBZ-95. QBZ-03 was never intended for elite units, they were mostly used by border units. so to replace that with QBZ-191 doesn't make any sense. Also in the 2019 National Day parade it's made abundantly clear that QBZ-191 is being the next service rifle, since all the combat units were seen with them. oh and btw CCTV7 made a documentary stating that it was a service rifle.

[@anx2617]

@@buckplug2423 bc qbz95 has limited modular capacity. optics, magnifier lasers and etc are useless on qbz95.

[@jonseilim4321]

@@obsidianstatue is QBZ191 the official designation? That's the name netizens came up with, I doubt they'd keep it. Irregardless, the new rifle looks amazing!

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I love Wargame Red Dragon I hope that Eugen Systems will make a "Modern" Wargame one day

[@eee9034]

Happy Taiwan National Day

[@Historyfan476AD]

Think the range of modern weapons make it a bit hard, and you know how sensitive people are these days to current conflict.

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Me too

[@hothoploink1509]

Must have been really difficult finding good sources for this oO

[@BattleOrder]

Just a few days of doing nothing by searching the Chinese internet lol

[@pyeitme508]

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[@BattleOrder]

@@pyeitme508 Thanks mate!

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Happy Taiwan National Day

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@@BattleOrder your welcome

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I’ve only recently discovered your channel, but have found it to be very well done and informative. If possible could you do a video covering the Warrant Officer in the US Military?

[@kaiwenguo3824]

I highly appreciate the unbiased video and the comments; thank you, everyone.

[@yuenin5318]

very concise and clear visuals, narration! liked (and subbed)

[@nickbrewer88]

Did anyone see that throw at 9:25? I had to rewatch it 4 times before I could accept that he threw that smoke 3ft. I'm surprised China hasn't censored that clip.

[@CoolKid-qk7tl]

I think he accidentally hit the guy in front of him Either they or he was somehow so bad it managed to go sideways

[@macrick]

@@CoolKid-qk7tl I replayed the clip at half speed. It was a really bad throw! LoL!!!!

[@bjahava]

Damn. It was terrible.

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[@Mocha_122]

Probably while he was throwing his arm felt stiff which caused the throw to be very short.

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Was looking forward to this!

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Happy Taiwan National Day

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Greatly helps my Arma 3 content. Thanks!

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[@signaturelookofsuperiority1547]

Looking forward to more modern military organizational structure/tactics breakdown videos!

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please make more of these modern military analysis videos. 👍🏿 subbed.

[@ronin47-ThorstenFrank]

Interesting organisation. Especailly the LCA-Brigade seems optimized for rapid foreign/internal intervention. And a very interesting video, of course.

[@SomethingSpecial.]

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[@eee9034]

Happy Taiwan National Day

[@mikeyryu232]

I hear the Red Orchestra 1 main theme in here. nice touch, love our content man

[@parkerwean8571]

My heart goes out to dude with the amazing throw at 9:26

[@rougamo5110]

In a "strengthened infantry squad"， Besides the standard 95/95-1 automatic rifle and two 95/95-1 squad machine guns，it also equipped with two sniper rifles (including one Type 10 high-caliber sniper rifle), two Type 93 rocket launchers, Type 89 heavy machine gun, Type 98 anti-tank rocket launcher and Type 04 automatic grenade launcher. In addition, the squad is also supported with a professional sapper（pioneer）. This special squad is under command of the company and separated from other normal squads ， individuals in this squad can be deployed in any squad of the company due to battle missions. So there’s actually no variants in standard squads，they just got supported by a separated fire squad in their company.

[@RustedCroaker]

Along with professional blasters do they also deploy phasers and photon torpedoes?

[@Birdman369]

@@RustedCroaker I think blaster in this case refers to sappers or demolitions specialists, idk if the same terminology is used in western forces.

[@rougamo5110]

@@RustedCroaker yes，they also got Shuttlecraft with warp core as IFV XDDDDDD

[@buckplug2423]

jesus christ, that's a lot of firepower. Are there situations were such a squad is used as a unit, like for example in defence or during a company assault?

[@rougamo5110]

@@buckplug2423 the special squad is not used to fight as a normal squad，each member（s） of the special squad will be deployed to platoons or squads under the same company command. Such deploys will depends on battle missions of each platoon or squad. A platoon with anti-tank mission will likely be support by type 98 ATRL. A platoon with defense mission will likely be support by type 89 HMG，and so on. The special squad is directly under the command of the company commander，and its slowly expanded into a “firepower platoon ” after 2018.

[@envolvement]

I watch your videos a lot and this is the most useful video for my job specifically. If we can have more videos on the modern Chinese structure that would be very useful for studying as a grunt. Thanks and keep it up!

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Happy Taiwan National Day

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Subbed! Thank you recommendations.

[@noodles5438]

Thanks man, I asked for this.

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Happy Taiwan National Day

[@jiaruiyan870]

EE E more like happy taiwan provincial day lmao

[@KenMikkelsen]

I really enjoy this channel!

[@eee9034]

Happy Taiwan National Day

[@jeffreyroot6300]

Interesting! I find their IFVs and vehicle mix to be well thought out and compelling. The closest we could do is an MTLV based heavy / medium and amphibious structure, with Striker components as needed for occupation or operations other than war involving lots of road and plains movement. Light forces get M113 based heavy components with modernized Weasel M29C type light tracked vehicles and HMMWV and Jeeps as needed. Include Amphibious modifications packages and armor packages as appropriate, include the M113 vehicle family Cavalry vehicle we never used. Add EFOGM systems to supplement heavy mortars and missiles.

[@eee9034]

Happy Taiwan National Day

[@rayz5469]

@@eee9034 Hey, ignorant. The 10.10 is the national day of Republic China, which commemorates the start of the Wuchang Uprising of 10 October 1911. When is the Taiwan National Day in your delusion?

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This is so fucking awesome!! I devoured this video. Never seen anything like this on KZbin

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[@SoFZlodei24]

Oh man, Wargame European Escalation music gives me so much nostalgia for that game.

[@KenshiroPlayDotA]

It's actually Red Dragon, not EE.

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Happy Taiwan National Day

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Red Dragon still has some activities though

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A beautiful way to wake up

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Happy Taiwan National Day

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Cooool killer find I'm stoked. Liked and subscribed

[@bingzgaming1318]

Wow this channel is nice. I love learning about war and history.

[@brianfoster4434]

Good overview. Thanks! Question: From a command and control point of view, how independent are they at the squad level? Can they operate with some degree of independence or are they strictly tied to central command?

[@dabo5078]

Historically PLA units were extreme flexible at the tactical level and place strong importance on independent maneuvers to outflank and destroy a superior enemy.

[@davidmoss2576]

@@dabo5078 Damn that is a scary thought. PLA with good training and weapons are a force to be reckoned with.

[@zidan1hao917]

Amphibious Brigades have one and only one objective: be the spearhead leading the liberation of the Taiwan Island. Since EFV's cancel , PLA suddenly has the best AFV that can swim (type05s) CSK181, or Warrier Gen3 as is nick named is springing up everywhere, giving most mot.infs units whom have never been armored up an entry to AFV, also can equip a weapon station. There is CSZ181 that is a longer, 6x6 version, full armored or with a truck bed plus armored 4 seat cabin. Also air assault brigade (not marine)is forming now, but choppers are lacking to build more of them. QBU88 doesn't appear in normal squads THAT often, and optic is still hard to find on QBZ95 that often. Some units will have some modified T95 to ease the problem of not having a rail to mount optic, but it only comes in small amounts. PF98 120mm have a computerized optic to give more accuracy to the shots, but that shit is still too big in my opinion... 6:44 the AGL gunner should be 榴弹发射器手 8X8 Bobcat(山猫) got solid axle with no suspension (medic version excepted) so it can only be used for short range assault, not long marches. Also you may see a huge smoke cloud appears when a QBZ95 fired, that is from the plastic inert round used in war exercise. Normal ball ammo is just fine.

[@zidan1hao917]

Also some ranting...some journalists working for PLA knows jack shit about military, and pictures may have mosaic on none-secret info for no reason. Edit dudes mixing material from years ago with no connection what so ever, confusion everyone...

[@HuyTran-dy3vt]

I think you misspelled "the invasion of Taiwan"

[@XX-qo5ny]

I think you misspelled "introducing oppression and crimes against humanity"

[@zidan1hao917]

@@XX-qo5ny #way to go ROC?

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@@XX-qo5ny way to visit ROC

[@ravenous-wolf3115]

Hmmm this seems to be useful, It's also nice to see a comprehensive make up of their Mechanize Infantry.

[@bitcngld27]

29 k subs, best reporting. The details is accurate. Hope u 1 M subs

[@user-wp5of2bs4x]

Good to see so many footages from CCTV-7 channel. There's no better place than CCTV-7 to know china's military.

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I had no idea you had a channel I was literally just going through your Instagram

[@kaiw1182]

Great video. This just reiterates my thought that getting rid of the Marine Corps M1’s was and is a terrible mistake.

[@noimnotnamingthisbullshit3314]

I was enjoying your content earlier today, but the fact that you went through the effort to put the Mandarin in this video while not taking it upon yourself to personally butcher the pronunciation has earned my follow. Keep up the great content

[@shoppapa7238]

The mounted infantry doctrine explains the transition from soviet arms to every weapon being a bullpub

[@TheTimer81]

First, I like to say thank you and your team for the informative video. Can you tell me by the way how an amphibiouse Combined- Arms Brigade is organized or where I can find further information about that topic.

[@ZhangLee.]

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[@zhang_han]

love that the wargame soundtrack was chosen for this video. very appropriate.

[@Skolotaj]

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[@TaterTot88244]

The similarities to the American Army Infantry are apparent. Its good to know how other countries organize their military. Most developed nations have mechanized brigades so the similarities are unsurprising.

[@orangeairsoft7292]

It seems to be working for them, most Western countries usually try to take inspiration or copy tactics or doctrines from the US too (understandably, look at the most powerful current military and just see what they're doing right). It also differs from Russia who just seem still use their old Soviet doctrines and own Soviet era tanks and equipment despite being quite outdated especially now seeing it in action. China is just looking at what Western armies do well and just doing that.

[@user-qd3lc7zb6n]

@@orangeairsoft7292 I think the reason of why they still have so much outdated Soviet era gear is because their military reforms were made in 2008

[@orangeairsoft7292]

@@user-qd3lc7zb6n well they've come a long way since even then. Besides their military seems to be growing more and more every year and they'll probably replace a lot of it anyway.

[@user-qd3lc7zb6n]

@@orangeairsoft7292 yeah, I hear about their new T-14 Armata tank and Su57

[@orangeairsoft7292]

@@user-qd3lc7zb6n No, thats Russia. I was talking about China but Russia doesn't look like it'll have much for decades to come as of now.

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Do Modern USMC next please!

[@jsnldn]

informative content, thanks.

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and ya used the same back ground music as War Game, thanks i love it

[@eee9034]

Happy Taiwan National Day

[@qimengzhang2836]

Rich amount of information and dedicated！you just got a new subscriber！ From a PLA veteran. :)

[@Gussyboy06]

All i can think about is that game Operation Flashpoint:Dragon Rising

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Love that wargame red dragon music.

[@w.s.2102]

Great content.....appreciated

[@hentaioverwhelming]

The PLAGF is switching out their QBZ-95 for the newer QBZ-191 which is heavily influenced by the M16. The 95 was deployed in 1997 and was basically the PLA admitting that the legacy 7.62x39mm rounds were no longer capable of servicing their needs (penetrating body armor) with its shift to their own 5.8x42mm rounds. The 95 came about because the Chinese leadership looked at what happened in the First Persian Gulf War and finally came to conclusion of modernizing the military. The thing about the PLA is that it has never had to use conscription for manpower so the entire force is voluntary and the closest thing to a stable job (or jobs). I mentioned earlier about the Chinese civil leadership not funding the military properly so the military was running its own businesses like hotel services or maintenance shops or restaurants or even farms. A sizeable portion of the original state-operated enterprises from before Deng Xiaoping (all the way back to Mao) were basically staffed by the PLA because they didn't have proper funding and you can kind of see the result of that with their little adventure in Vietnam in 1979. Once Deng Xiaoping came to power, one of the first problems he identified was funding, professionalism, and loyalty from the PLA and that has a lot to do with the PLA's commercial enterprises so he worked out a compromise with the PLA to fully fund the PLA in exchange for the military divesting completely from the aforementioned enterprises. The manpower reduction thing was a combination of reclassifying the enterprise-related staff as actual civilians, plus retirements, plus seriously getting new blood into the military's leadership so that the military would be more professional. Also, those enterprises were actually eating into a massive chunk of the PLA's budget in the first place and were also tying up resources that Deng wanted to use to focus on the economy. So the end result was that the PLA looked like its budget was slashed in the 1980s in order to rev up China's economy when the fact of the matter was that the PLA itself had a LOT of fat that got cut. So, how does that tie into the QBZ-95? Well, the Soviet Union imploded on itself, then the First Persian Gulf War happened, panic ensued in the CCP and PLA leaderships, and a plan was hammered out to prioritize the modernization of both the Air Force and Ground Force first. The fancy new Su-27s were always going to be expensive so it was decided that the new infantry weapon would need to be stupidly cheap and easy to mass produce while being as reliable as the AK-47 and potentially defeat opponents that had body armor. This is literally why the QBZ-95 came about. It was developed on a shoestring budget because priorities were elsewhere and there wasn't enough cash to go around. So for the next 20 years (the 1990s and 2000s), you had this merry-go-round of different branches getting priority on the budget which were always decided in 5-year intervals and during that time, the QBZ-95 was fully equipped in all service branches. The Ground Forces getting a serious operational, doctrinal, and tactical reorg kicking off around 2015 is basically 20 years from when the QBZ-95 started production (in 1995 obviously hence the name, but no one saw the new assault rifle until the Hong Kong handover in 1997). As part of the Ground Forces' reorg is a refit program in 2019 to make the PLAGF more in line with NATO tactics and doctrine which involved more emphasis on body armor, night vision, and fancy gun attachments. Basically refitting the infantry to be more like American infantry. Guess when the new QBZ-191 first entered service? 2019. Hence the name should really be QBZ-19-1. If a new infantry rifle comes out in 2095, it will likely be designated as QBZ-951.

[@fadli_1577]

QBZ-191 actually copy of Israeli Galil Ace

[@MrEggsauce]

Great video. I do have a question though: do we have any educated guesses as to *why* these formations are equipped and organized in this fashion? Even if it's just speculation I'd like to hear your thoughts.

[@BattleOrder]

I have a feeling the move to a 9-man squad with 2 fire teams is somewhat following after the US. I don't know exactly when they made the change, but they used to be 3 fireteams of 3 men each. This is a holdover from a politically-based "cell" system, which is actually one of the inspirations that led to the US Marine Raiders to developing such a system in the early 1940s before the rest of the USMC. Vietnam actually maintains the 3x3 system today. I think the change from an RPG-7 clone to the PF-98A as the rocket launcher is probably due to a fear of western tanks, because it is one of the more capable unguided options out there. But since it is so big, it makes me think that their doctrine-use of it is mostly defensive. It's like how the Carl Gustav in western militaries has often been used in defensive situations while LAWs like the M72 or AT4 are used on the offense. It's also a cheaper option than something like the Javelin, which the Chinese have an equivalent to but I don't know how far its proliferated. They usually don't put dismount ATGMs in squads. I'm not sure why they opted for the magazine fed QBB-95 when the belt-fed QJY-88 (in the same cartridge) is also in service. I think the QJY may be a platoon support weapon, and it used to be in the squad for heavy infantry at least.

[@nilloc93]

@@BattleOrder just going to say, arming a soldier with an AT weapon and a pistol as a standard loadout just seems bizarre to me, that squad would be effectively down a man if there were no vehicles for him to engage since closing to the range that a handgun would be useful at is unlikely. I think this is why most western armies take the Carl G as the largest squad level weapon because a soldier can still carry a rifle with them, while things like man-portable TOW launchers are kept at platoon or company level. On the same note, arming vehicle crews with pistols and not carbines is also very strange, most armored vehicles have enough room to stuff a carbine or PDW somewhere for the crew

[@BattleOrder]

@@nilloc93 Not arming a grenadier with anything, or with a pistol, is a fairly common eastern practice. Before the 1990s Soviet/eastern bloc RPG-7 grenadiers usually didn't have a secondary. I believe this is still what Vietnamese RPG-7/B-41 grenadiers do. American M79 grenadiers in the 1960s just had a pistol as a secondary. Rationale is their job is to man the big weapon system, and big weapons make it hard to carry another full weapon with ammo for it (although it's obviously not impossible since most western countries do that). Although with the PF-98 the grenadier is probably more vulnerable since they only have two shots.

[@MarkzOng]

@@BattleOrder I thanks for the wonderful video , have been reading text all over to find their make up . I believe at squad level (heavy weapons) a 12.7mm HMG is use as support weapon or a tripod AGL. I have also saw some training videos with 12.7mm anti material sniper rifle in the load up . Others have UGL as a common feature too. Scope mount qzb was also surface recently lol.

[@BattleOrder]

@@MarkzOng I think 12.7mm HMGs and QLZ-87 AGLs on tripods are platoon-level weapons rather than squad-level. I think the anti-materiel rifles and grenade "sniper" rifles are in battalion-level sniper platoons

[@loganoneill8671]

Awesome report brother.

[@timbrown5262]

They look very professional. Respect

[@slevin4877]

Can you please cover also the italian army and marines? Thank you for your videos anyway.

[@BengalLancer]

Could you please compare the organization of US Army Combat Aviation Brigade Vs Chinese Army Aviation ones. So few coverage on the latter. And keep up the good works.

[@jeremysong7010]

it's hard to compare because US army is global strategy and China is still try to focus on the homeland defence

[@BengalLancer]

@@jeremysong7010 comparing two organisations and comparing warfare strategies are different things. Chinese Army Aviation Brigades maintains similar quantities and aircraft class as of US Army Combat Aviation Brigades, (PLAGFAF has 10 Avn Bde with about 1000 AC total) I don't think anyone else can come close, even the Russians!! Especially when you consider the growth rate of PLAGFAF .

[@byc6230]

More of this kind of information about PLA pls!

[@adisura9904]

I struck gold this new year. Happy new year mate from 🇮🇳. Would love to see you cover Indian armed forces sometime. Have a great year!

[@john-paulfarrell2562]

I’d love to see a video on AUSTRALIAN infantry formations

[@Apster]

Could you do a video on the Section Organisation of around 10- 14 men in the Indian Armed Forces ? Information isn’t readily available online but a lot of folks on twitter can help you with that, would be interesting to see the Worlds Largest Armies and how they Operate.

[@eee9034]

Happy Taiwan National Day

[@huitzplochit]

That Red Dragon Soundtrack though...

[@maxsado]

Thanks for letting me know more about my country. This channel is gold.

[@norbert-yy4be]

can you do one on the british army. id love to see their organizational structure

[@rowmagnvs]

Just look up the field manuals, it has all the info you’re looking for

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

Awesome video as always. But I really like the idea of a squad level automatic grenade launcher. It's like a one-man portable short ranged autocannon

[@BattleOrder]

The South Africans do a more tenable version (in terms of weight) with the MGL at section level. I believe they give it to their 2IC

[@tobiasandreasson1735]

I would so love see battle order do one these videos for either Sweden or Finland

[@omarrp14]

So does the avg chinese soldier/marine get protective vest? If so what are they rated to stop? Most shown in the video only had load bearing stuff.

[@eee9034]

Happy Taiwan National Day

[@ornature5324]

Recenly yes. Although the new plates are slowly being distributed compared to new camo

[@kaidoufire]

They only get them when deployed to warzone but it's changing since the reform. Right now soldiers at the China-Inida border have vests that rated to stop M855.

[@omarrp14]

@@kaidoufire good thing we switched to M855A1

[@kaidoufire]

@@omarrp14 They do have heavier vests that stop better rounds, normally seen in peacekeeping force in Africa. The border unit have older and lighter ones probably because of the 4km plus high attitude in Tibet that can drained their stamina if they don't control carry weight. They produce decent body armor for export so they do have the production capabilities when they decide to arm every soldier with vests.

[@m4sherman340]

Is that the wargame: red dragon soundtrack in the back ground.

[@shmeckle666]

Damn right

[@tommylawton6253]

First video watched, be interested to see what you have on the British army, subscribed 👍🏻

[@lollmao3350]

I like the non bias commentary

[@iamsorryforbeingrudebefore1626]

I am not sure about their effectiveness, but I sure am as hell about their discipline and dedication.

[@QuickStrikes84]

They sure love their bullpups!

[@walperstyle]

Not anywhere as good as a Tavor.

[@abram730]

Bullpup is perfect for an assault rifle.

[@jzeng2022]

There is still a big gap between Chinese individual equipment and the US military, but last year the individual soldiers also installed the Beidou navigation and positioning system for communication and receiving wartime instructions and positioning. Each squad installed 3 fixed wings and 2 Spiral-wing UAVs and fixed-wing UAVs are used for one-off attacks, and spiral-wing UAVs are used for reconnaissance and communication.

[@jagdpanther2224]

I like that 8 wheeled buggy!

[@sannidhyabalkote9536]

Hey battle order, Umm, what did you mean by Russia has less optic during the company level radar in the Russian video I am a noob soo... Can you explain

[@BattleOrder]

In the US military basically everyone gets an optic as a pretty standard thing. Optics are much more scarce by comparison in the regular Russian ground forces (not including special units). So what I was alluding to was the ground surveillance radar may be partially compensating for the lower proliferation of optics by pointing the dudes in the right direction to acquire targets

[@sannidhyabalkote9536]

In gamer terms , they have more red dots and acogs basically

[@nilloc93]

@@sannidhyabalkote9536 those being known as optics, yes, however the russians don't use ACOGs they use the NPK or kashan

[@sannidhyabalkote9536]

@@nilloc93 I was just simplyfying things

[@eee9034]

Happy Taiwan National Day

[@FD_Stalker]

Imagine next yeat Squad's "PanAsian" Deputy Squad Leader can put down building obj and also has a shovel... op

[@marlarki5280]

‘PanAsia’ lmao, what’s up with these stupid faction names?

[@mcmitonet8032]

@@marlarki5280 really lmao when I first saw the name. but it`s just temporary name, the official said

[@Oatmilk123]

This channel is excellent. Keep it up.

[@matthewjacobs3884]

Great video very interesting, and fascinating ✌️👍👌

[@Seth9809]

I notice that the US doesn't have a DMR in seemingly every single squad like the Russians and Chinese seem to do.

[@BattleOrder]

I think in the case of the Chinese they may be playing up the camera and making sure squads that get published in the media have one. For the Russians, they took DMRs out of the squads during the 2009 reforms. Generally speaking in American practice DMRs (7.62mm) are battalion assets but I believe they've been deployed to the squad before (even if it's just an M16 with an optic). The Marines want to put the M38 SDMR (5.56mm) in the squad though, but that's basically an M27 IAR receiver with a different optic and a suppressor

[@signaturelookofsuperiority1547]

I would also assume the US doesn’t have a DMR specialist in every squad due to every rifleman having a similar capability due to their magnified optics. Chinese and Russian infantry almost exclusively use iron sights. I suspect the DMR man in some Chinese squads is an attempt to partially make up for the rest of the squad being unable to engage western (especially US) infantry at the same engagement distances.

[@genericpersonx333]

The DMR is an answer to some common problems of large conscript armies with relatively low resources. The Russians and Chinese alike tend to expect their riflemen to be fighting without a lot of training or logistical support. So, they concentrate on training a few men to be extremely good shots rather than trying to train all their riflemen to be decent shots. It also gives them an ability to engage common threats, like machinegun nests, without resorting to logistically-expensive support weapons like artillery. The PLA rather likes the idea of Ping the DMR being able to knock out that machinegun nest with a few aimed rifle shots rather than Lin the Squad Lead ordering expensive rockets or mortar shells on it. Tsing the Rocketman is of course annoyed he doesn't get to lighten his load by firing his rockets sooner, but he is a a disciplined soldier and will not blow his load prematurely at the wrong time. Uncle Sam, when he goes to war, tends to be a little more generous. He gives his riflemen very accurate rifles, theoretically trains them to use those rifles well, gives them plenty of access to optics and other cool gadgets to help their aim, and he doesn't mind trucking in vast quantities of heavy weapons to blow the heck out of any enemy that is foolish enough to let him get the range on them. However, you will note that certain units, like the Marines, do want squad-level DMRs because they, too, want to be able to operate without all the heavy weapons that the Army traditionally enjoys. Why use your AT4 on that machinegun when you might run into a BMP? Of course, the average Marine will probably still use the AT4 on the machinegun, but at least they give lip service to the idea.

[@johnwilliamsscuba6487]

What do you need a DMR for when every Marine he is an excellent Rifleman

[@bradleyperry1735]

You should dig a little deeper into US DMRs...