Dragon’s Dogma 2 Endings Explained | True, Good & Bad Endings Breakdown

Dragon's Dogma 2's storyline is a time loop trip of twists, revelations, and false endings just like the original. Today, I'll break down the true ending and alternate paths, delving into a full explanation of the cycle’s end, the Pathfinder’s role, key distinctions from the first game’s ending and so much more! Of course, spoilers abound as we dissect the endings of DD2!
We’ll start with a brief overview of Dragon’s Dogma 2’s main plot, which is necessary to set up and explain the endings.
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[@112523]

I fucking love close captions. When you said "retreiving your pawn" cc made it "retreiving your porn" and now I imagine an arisen frantically running home in the hope nobody found his secret porn stash

[@JackdawYT]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@korbandallas8931]

Weird

[@DylanRiley2011]

The whole world is ending - priorities 😅

[@DustinLittlefield]

“The Arisen arrives in the mainland of Vermund and creates their Main Porn” I didn’t get that part, must be part of the ultimate edition.

[@AzureRoxe]

Anyone notice that for the ENTIRE game, the menu calls the game "Dragon's Dogma", but it's only when you do the true ending that it calls itself "Dragon's Dogma 2"?

[@ofnir123]

I think it's because most of the main game is a remake/retelling of the original Dragon's Dogma, and yet the "true ending" is what happens when the "true order" is challenged

[@jarhead2808]

Simply because when you are in the unmoored world the under water castle reveals to actually be gran soren ruins ! So at this moment the game is no longer an "alternate universe"

[@zowbaid89]

@@jarhead2808 So it takes place in the future? I mean it's all weird and not explained very well, because pawns come from different worlds. Are they just parallel universes? And that's what the Great Will was getting tired of watching? These random parallel worlds popping up doing the same thing as the other worlds. What was this oblivion that was destroying them? The Brine? Can't be cuz the Brine was a part of the Pathfinder to limit mankind and creation to this one continent in order to watch it and contain it for this "video-game-esque" role they've been given to play.

[@DiogoLZ]

To me "Dragon's Dogma II" appeared after i went to the unmoored world.

[@The.Nasty.]

They make it seem like a remake until you break the world… then if you’re observant you’ll notice: the seafloor shrine is actually the capital from the last game, swallowed up by the brine. It’s a true sequel, but in the last game you successfully reset the cycle. I was mind blown when someone told me, I didn’t even notice in my playthrough. 😢

[@PaulieWalnuts13]

Unlocking NG+ after beating the true ending was confusing for me. It made it seem like after breaking the cycle we got sent back to the start but this time without the pathfinder being around, but that’s obviously not the case. There should’ve been a free roam option for after you saved the world from oblivion.

[@sumoslamer180]

In the first game you could've, but you'd be invisible and all powerful since you'd be the seneschal . In this game on the other hand, you defeat the seneschal and break the cycle at the same time because this seneschal didn't want to give away his position willingly. Edit: Which is also why you get the godsbane from the spirit of the last arisen who attempted to take the mantle of seneschal, instead of getting it from the seneschal. Probably also why the godsway is a thing in this game. Too much meddling from the seneschal just screwed things up.

[@PaulieWalnuts13]

@@sumoslamer180 yea plus we probably died at the end anyway now that I think about it

[@MuraCasardis]

To be specific, it seems The Watching One/Pathfinder is actually the entity above the Seneschal. Savan hinted at it in his dialogues in DD1, especially when you question him after the fight. Rothais seems to have become Seneschal before the story but then chose to abandon his post, which may be why the Pathfinder is now taking charge directly. While we joked that The Brine > Seneschal in DD1 because you still couldn't swim after becoming Seneschal, it unironically is true canonically now xD

[@TheTexasDice]

NG+ (probably) isn't canon, just like Dragon's Dogma 1. But DD1 made a cheeky reference with the face of the Seneshal on repeat for thematic reasons. At least that's how I interpret it.

[@sumoslamer180]

@@TheTexasDice Don't know about that... The pawns reference the fact that it is canonical by telling you things like "I knew you would not abandon this world, arisen." or "I'd thought you'd return to us. Seems I was right." and the like. The pawns seem to persist throughout the cycles.

[@LenaLovesCookieslol]

The dragon that appears at the seeshrine is the pathfinder himself

[@HamonmyMind]

@5:37 if you fail to fight the summoned creatures you get another ending too, where you become the hermit that everyone in the game speaks about in Harve! Also, that man is an arisen too if you look closely on his chest he has an arisen mark

[@dantemiles689]

Yes that is said in game, he is dragon forged meaning he was an Arisen. We meet 3 such people.

[@Nyx_Eos]

Just came to add a bit more context if needed, but the Oracle mentions that you must seek out "He who was dragon forged" and it leads you to the hermit in Harve

[@giwrgosdavola74]

you don't become that man, you just become like him but in an alternative universe (probably, because if you think about it if the same think happened to the hermit, if that didd happen then the world was destroyed since he lost, so he can't be in the same world, and time travel is out of the picture so it can't be you)

[@earthbound_one]

I never realised that the man sailing away at the end meant the brine was gone because in the first game you sail to bitterblack island while the brine is present

[@Raven-gz7pm]

Thats....actually a good point.

[@hapmaplapflapgap]

We see plenty of fishermen and boats in both of these games, I think it is more so an artistic show of freedom and 'sailing into the unknown' rather than a logical reaction to the brine being gone.

[@greenh6486]

it was always my understanding that the brine LET you go to bitterblack. As shown in this game the brine is the will of the story so if the story wants you on the island it will let you go. thats also an explanation for why it kills all the npcs but not the arisen. your part in the story doesnt end with you dead in a lake, but it still doesnt want you or anyone else sailing out too far. Without it it seems anyone can go anywhere they like

[@sumoslamer180]

I actually really liked the ending of the second game, and I find it complimentary to the original's. In the original you start the game as Savan, an arisen who completed the dogma and became the seneschal, a steward of the world who guides it. After some unknown amount of time the seneschal started a new dogma, sending out a dragon to find the next arisen to replace him. He found Grigori who's life essence wasn't enough to take the mantle of the Senechal so he became the Dragon himself. The Dragonforged and Duke edmund both failed in their persuits of slaying the dragon. One due to weakness, the other due to fear and greed. In the end the main character steps up and takes the mantle, break the cycle to create a new cycle. In this game the seneschal, or the "greater will" resented the loss of his position so he cast out the cycle's purpose and made it his own. He meddled with the affairs of mortals to stop the cycle from ever taking his place. Once the arisen vanquishes the dragon this seneschal stops the cycle by not opening the Everfall for the arisen to reach him, instead giving the arisen a false title of monarch to take. But this world's dragon has seen this happen many times over due to the seneschal's tight grip on his position and he tried to show arisen how to end the cycle despite the seneschal's meddling. In the end the seneschal laments his loss of this new cycle's potential unraveling Infront of him. The seneschal gone now a new cycle may begin. It's clear that Savan took his position with loyalty to the world, while this seneschal did everything in his power to grab hold of his place in the cycle. He was aware of the overarching cycle, The dragon, the arisen, the rise of a new seneschal the fall of the seneschal. But he wanted it to end with him on the throne. This whole game was still in Gransys, The sea shrine is Gran Soren, the moonglint tower is the bluemoon tower, the arena where the dragon fight commences is the same. The cycle repeated even after the arisen broke it in the first game. the lands shifted and a new cycle began. (mostly turned south to north TBH... Gran Soren, though smaller, is simply turned around 180 degrees.)

[@Ocean5ix]

Great comment. Kinda reminded me of Dark Souls 1-3. How you’re in the same place thousands of years apart, probably many cycles later.

[@neobahumuth6]

bluemoon tower is actually the ruins near the capital, you can tell when going trough them

[@sumoslamer180]

@@neobahumuth6 I thought that too, but the Moonglint tower is better situated and looks exactly like Bluemoon when you get on top of it. Not to mention the state of the tower next to Vernworth in the end-game.

[@neobahumuth6]

@@sumoslamer180 look closely to the ruins, the place is exactly like the blue moon tower it has the same planimetry more or less. Also tbf the moonglint tower doesn't look anything like the bluemoon tower, they are different towers entirely

[@magnus8090]

This my new favorite theory for the story man

[@VincentDraw]

I hate how in most games of this nature your character has to die. Like I get it's a 'good ending', but I hate both you and your pawn just dies.

[@kamikaze00007]

The only thing really missing from the true ending is Into Free playing on the background. Also, the rationale behind the true ending might be a "Old Gods" type of thing. If we assume the Oblivion that consumes worlds is some sort of Old God-esque entity, some things will make sense. If you're interested, read on. Since this Old God constantly consumes every new world The Will of all existence is giving birth to, The Will needed to do something to stop it. However, it was only able to "confine" the Old God into the form of a Dragon that constantly reincarnates, and thus The Will has to make the endless chain system of an Arisen being born in order to constantly kill it. A successful Arisen will regain their heart, grow old, and eventually die. The Dragon reincarnates, and another Arisen is chosen to deal with it. In this loop, the existence of the world is kept going as well as safe from the Dragon (if the Arisen takes the Dragon's offer, the world keeps existing but the life in it is under constant danger of the Dragon, leading into civilization not flourishing). We then get introduced into the concept of the God's Bane. The God's Bane likely represents humanity's ultimate power of unlimited potential. By using the God's Bane on the Dragon's heart, the Arisen essentially destroys the Old God/Oblivion (as it is a god-killer Deus Ex Machina), therefore breaking the endless chain, and removing the need for there to be any Arisen and Dragon in the future. This also ties in with Pawns if you think about it. Pawns are likely The Will's way to have a contingency plan against the Dragon. By creating the Pawn system, and hiding their source behind the Rift (outside the reality of that world), The Will is able to stock the Pawn Knowledge that will always certainly prove useful to each and every future Arisen, ensuring that they can assist whoever the Arisen may be, in defeating their Dragon counterpart. This way, even if the Dragon is able to destroy most of civilization the Arisen will always have a Pawn that can teach them and guide them into fulfilling their mission. Even if the Rift Stones were to be destroyed (as many of them are in 2), just having the Arisen nearby is enough to fix them again. What The Will did not take into account with Pawns is that they are most likely made from something that resembles Oblivion, as well as humanity and its power of infinite potential, all combined into one. This is why Dragonkin/Oblivion is able to possess their bodies. On the other hand, this is also why they can gain a soul and humanity the more they become closer to their Arisen. It is also likely that Oblivion and the Brine are linked or are one. In the true ending you actually see the Brine's tentacles appear on the Dragon's body at some point. Just like this video states, it is possible that the Dragon has also started getting a sense of "self" or humanity after so many cycles, seeing as Dragons are also apparently possibly previous Arisen. This is why Talos tries to take down the Dragon before it can face the Arisen with the God's Bane, which would likely destroy the Old God's existence.

[@brokesoul89]

Oh I love this! ❤

[@canebrake2561]

That's deep and hit the nail on the head stuff, bud! Awesome !

[@FahrenheitEX]

Dragons Dogma is rooted heavily in Nietzschean philosophy. Oblivion represents nihilism - the rejection of inherent meaning to the world and our lives. The Greater Will represents God, who bestows purpose unto humans in the form of the cycle. The dragon represents the values that people hold and the Arisen represents will, either to slay the dragon (accepting the values it stands for) or to shirk their duty (rejecting those values but not creating new ones). In any case whether the dragon is slain or not the cycle is perpetuated and in turn God continues to bestow purpose to humanity. The Godsbane blade in universe is a relic from the first games cycle where it was a tool for releasing the seneschal from his duty. In terms of Nietzsche it represents the death of God that ushers in nihilism but also beckons the arrival Nietzsche's Ubermensch or the Superman. This is why in DD2 using the Godsbane Blade to halt the cycle by killing your character and in turn he dragon who possesses your heart, ushers in Oblivion and causes the Pathfinder to accuse you of apathy and rejection of your role or purpose. As far as pawns are concerned, in the first game pawns played a role in representing Nietzsche's idea of eternal recurrence, wherein they were an extension of the Arisen's character intended to carry on their will. This theme continues in DD2 in a slightly different way in the form of the dragonsplague. Pawns in DD2 are likely intended to mirror the Arisen's development as the Ubermensch, as they are shown to develop a will of their own with your main pawn even referring to Nietzsche's 'will to power' during the true endings final cutscene. As for the connection between the brine and oblivion, this probably refers to Nietzsche's description of nihilism as being like a sea, formless and structureless, fluid but ultimately an undefined nothingness. The brine manifests this description perfectly and was likely used to emphasise these traits in oblivion. What the true ending represents as a whole is the arisen cultivating a will to power to use nihilism (Oblivion) as a bridge to becoming the superman.

[@sonofnihility]

Interesting but the dragon is the previous Arisen that failed to become the shniezal( idk how to spell it)

[@FahrenheitEX]

@@sonofnihility I know it is I'm speaking about what it represents philosophically since the game is inspired by Nietzsche's ideas

[@RaidenKaiser]

I got the true ending my first run and I thought i got the bad ending by accident lol. I thought I was being punished for not being satisfied with my journey wanting to play more when I first got it.

[@kush_killaking1234]

Literally same bro I was like wish I should have never talked with him but turned out to be amazing

[@toottootsonicwarrior5777]

Yeah. It really felt like my selfish decision to not perpetuate the cycle was seriously fucking up the world. I was sure it would end in the destruction of everything. But sticking to my resolve, destroying the weird brine bosses and saving whoever I could, it felt good to finally see the blue sky again in a new free world of my own creation.

[@AgimondDrugare]

Are we not going to address the fact that the Sunken ruins are the remains of Gran soren?

[@xxxhalo4everxxx]

they are?

[@molagboolin313]

Makes me wonder if the greater will is really the arisen from dd1 as seneschal, and this is the world they create after defeating the previous seneschal. Maybe your character finds a way to end the cycle differently via dd2 arisen and the oblivion.

[@Ash0ur]

@@molagboolin313 bro, this would be perfect and make a lot of sense. your theory is better than the parallel world thing, but makes me wonder why would the dd1 arisen do all that instead of just killing himself.

[@abdieljove2011]

Killing himself didn’t work. Savan takes the godslayer blade out of his chest too. We didn’t break the cycle in DD1 and anyone that thought we did was being hopeful or silly lol

[@KittyNoo]

I want to add if you flip the map of the first game then you can see that casardis is on the same position as vernworth and the moonshine tower is on the same position as the other moon tower from the first game.

[@tobygrimes9633]

Happy ending equals Hero defeats villain and gets the girl and the throne uniting the two kingdoms.

[@pancakepop680]

Nah.

[@vagabond4576]

@@pancakepop680 Yeah.

[@rhodan74]

I thought the seafloor shrine king was a former senechal that gave up on his duty. He actually says "that he ruled the world from above" or something. He also eludes to the pathfinder being an extension of "oblivion" although in a kinda cryptic way.

[@pattanakopaya5301]

That's actually a good theory. Rothais, the mad sovran at the seafloor shrine, sits on a throne identical to the throne of the senechal from the first game and he even gives the arisen the gods bane out of his soul/chest similar to the senechal in the first game. So your theory could be right. Would be nice if the player could use God's bane on Rothais and become the next senechal as a hidden ending and maybe trigger the post game by using God's bane on them self as the senechal.

[@hapmaplapflapgap]

I think that is how we are supposed to interpret it. The Senechal in the last game was still just a pawn that upheld the world through his will, and when he starts to lose his will the next cycle begins. But I think there's something more going on here. Neither Pathfinder nor Rothais seem like traditional Senechal as seen in DD1, not to mention that we don't have the Everfall here. Also Rothais still has plenty of will in him and is ready to fight who he thinks is sent by the Watcher to kill him. I'm thinking that the ending of DD1 made a small change to how the cycle worked, causing the 'Great will' to maintain the world in different way without a true Senechal, which in tern meant that Rothais, who would have otherwise been a Senechal, reached a similar position in the world but didn't drain his will to uphold order world, and thus had enough will left to give His Godsbane to the player by the time he arrived.

[@Crowning.]

Too bad you can’t free play as the king or something

[@PrinceNocti]

I really would have liked at least a small section of getting to play as king after defeating the dragon and before the true ending madness starts up

[@Crowning.]

@@PrinceNocti exactly something like that would’ve been sweet

[@jtking00]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought this. It was a buzzkill not being able to play as king.

[@Crowning.]

@@jtking00 I tried walking out the doors in the end thinking I’ve beat the game let me free play and was very disappointed

[@dharkbizkit]

ok, i just finished the game.. and maybe its just me, but compared to all the other rpgs ive played it feels kinda.. incomplete.. like they build the world, took time for combat system and then realized, they just had 6 months left to put a main story in the world. theres a lot of "tell, dont show" in this one. it felt like the world building process was done 100% so was combat, classes. but quests, story and polish in terms of cutscenes were like 66% done but they shipped it anyway. i mean, look at the quest and the cuscene from the coronation, it feels like a placeholder. its a quest you go on, that fails inside a cutscene within 20seconds just by your pawn kneeling down. i also found it kinda short. i waited with the story quest as long as i could, doing all the sidequests i could find, then did the story progression and was done faster, then i expected. coming from games dragon age inq, witcher 3, elden ring, which took me over 100 hours for story and sidequests, dragons dogma ticks in at 39hours

[@sickwrites]

You're not wrong, but it kind of felt the same in the first one, the show and don't tell I mean. So many cutscenes like that as well, in both games. I thought with the new races and everything there would be more sidequests exploring the lore etc. I still loved the game, but with a better story it could be my perfect game

[@Yayson542]

felt that the Queen Disa and false sovran plot was interesting but that kinda faded since going to Batthal and never really got resolved

[@dharkbizkit]

@@Yayson542 ye, that too. its not that i dont have fun with the game, it just that i expected more of it. maybe i missed something or even didnt understand it right, but after you get send to batthal, it feels like youre start working for the wrong side and theres no mention of it, no "we need to find out what theyre planning," no "choices who to support" you go there and give the bad guy the stuff he needs to build his sword, no questions asked. i just reloaded the last save to look for what i missed, so the last main quest is stil open and the guy in the tavern still tells me, to use my fake id to get into batthal. what iam also missing is a better social performance with the paws. they work as combat npcs, yet in our time, i wanna see them interact with the world. its cool that they loot, but even fallout 4 from 2015, had your companions do more stuff, people would do, like take a set when iam busy, ordering a drink etc. its one of those games, where i cant stop thinking "how much better could it have been, if they added another year to the dev cycle" it might have been a for more fletched out game.

[@DioDinero]

This is how the first game was- I can’t tell if this is just Itsuno’s way of doing stories or he somehow, SOMEHOW still had to cut content this time as well lol

[@HHTwice]

How the hell are people finishing this game in 39 hours? lol I’m 120hrs in and taking my time and coincidentally enough anyone i see post “I beat the game under 40hrs” always complains it feels unfinished. Yet I’m taking my time and it feels the complete opposite lol are you people just rushing through the game?

[@Veridiano02]

Look. It may be a true ending. But there's no happy ending. An ending where the MC dies and it's love interest help rebuild stuff by staring at the ocean being alone and miserable isn't a happy ending at all. So I'm gonna keep that throne until a happy ending is offered.

[@brokesoul89]

Hahahaha that's exactly my idea I hate spending hours on protagonists to see them die lol .Real life is hard enough, so please let me be happy in the virtual one! I'm tired of Cyberpunk endings! 😅 I have suggested a happy ending in their survey, if only we can go to the Everfall like in DDAA and after this as DLC have an ending like one of Elden Ring with Ranni 🖤 I'm sure many of us will be happier xD

[@superxmario128]

It may not be a happy ending for your character and lover but it's a morally good one since it breaks the cycle and way more lives are saved as a result of the dragon not going on a large killing spree every now and then.

[@thebigenchilada678]

@@brokesoul89it is a happy ending. You save the entire world and all of it’s people, who’re previously puppets to some ambivalent entity. It’s a somber but fufiling moment for your character as your best bud/love interest? Died so you can save everything and in the end, you do, fufiling your pawns brief dream and creating a world free of strings for all your buds so they truly live their lives.

[@blackcat3585]

agreed

[@Curlylemur]

My game was pretty much perfect, but the only thing that messed it up was that i had the dwarfan smith girl instead of ulrika hahaha. That's the cost i paid for the 10% discount, hahah

[@spencerjr.968]

Same dude. When I saw her instead of Ulrika I was so confused. Doing another playthrough and going to try to avoid Sara this time.

[@korbandallas8931]

@@spencerjr.968 same with my game, i guess skip the quest where u escort sara then blushes, cuz I was expecting the bow girl.

[@DylanRiley2011]

Psh, I got Ulrika instead of Yuna and that's in no way accurate to how my game went down. Dwarven Smith Girl was super helpful at least

[@Roehdawg]

The game was really fun, don’t get me wrong, but I can’t call it perfect unfortunately. It felt like a lot of systems they could’ve innovated on with the first game as reference were just repeated from the first. Limited pawn dialogue, bad romance, story wasn’t very long, stuff like that could’ve helped this game out a lot but it felt like an old gen game in new gen clothing 😂

[@PKshockwave]

It was Sigurd for me. Had to use the dlc necklace to get him to teach me the maester skill for spearhand since he died at the dragon tower in Bhatahl. I was expecting Ulrika and was like why the hell is he here? My beloved? Whaaat? 😂

[@toottootsonicwarrior5777]

It really felt like my selfish decision to not perpetuate the cycle was seriously fucking up the world. I was sure it would end in the destruction of everything. But sticking to my resolve, destroying the weird brine bosses and saving whoever I could, it felt good to finally see the blue sky again in a new free world of my own creation.

[@brokesoul89]

I'm sad and depressed with this ending, what say you, Arisen? No, really, I'm used to Dragon Age/Baldurs Gate etc endings type and this is worst than Dark Arisen ending for me :( (I'm refering to True Ending)

[@blackcat3585]

i agree i got so depressed from it lmao

[@HoodedDude]

Great breakdown! Just finished the game yesterday, had a lot of fun, but wanted more. Interesting thing, in the end, my pawn changed back into her human form while at the dragon's heart and yours didn't? Was it because of inclination? Dialogue was also slightly different. (7:30)

[@brokesoul89]

No, because max affinity with your pawn 620 I think it was, only with a mod on pc you can see this. I'm on ps5 and I can't see it but when they blush and say some new quotes is when you know you will have their change in the true ending like yours 😊👍🏻

[@CaptainOtep]

my pawn changed back into her human form while at the dragon's heart too. i play on ps5. i guess we did great.

[@pattanakopaya5301]

You can increase the affinity of your pawn by interacting with them every 10min or so. High fives also increase the affinity slightly. Going to the hot springs or drinking at the bar can also help. Best way to increase the affinity is by visiting the barber and changing the appearance of your pawn every now and then. When they start blushing while you talk to them it will trigger the human form ending. I don't know if that's true, but some people say affinity is at max when you are able to carry your pawn in your arms like you can do with NPCs that have max affinity.

[@Curlylemur]

​@pattanakopaya5301 me tossing her off the bridge before I started the ending probably didn't help my case, lol. She started to talk back, and I'm like, heck, noooo! My one and only case of Dragons plague just happens to be on my last day in the unmoored world lol.

[@HoodedDude]

@@brokesoul89 had no idea this was a thing, but glad I got it. Just really liked my pawn and talked to her constantly to see if she was sick lol Fun times!

[@immersion9880]

Sooooo. Are we and our pawn dead? What does that mean for future DD2 content?

[@lolidiot4656]

I like how people can't wrap their head around the fact that this game is not a "parallel" to dd1 (which is understandable, cause multiverses and shit splitting and reforming etc is incredibly confusing) - it takes place in the exact same world. There's a reason the quest for the Seafloor Shrine is called "Convergence" - even if the events of dd1 had occurred in an alternate world - this is no longer the case, it has converged.

[@NarutoIIPrayer]

I think a lot of people misunderstood the ending of DDDA. In the first game the cycle never nroke, its literally unbreakable and it shows when you play on NG+ Meanwhile in DD2 the cycle truly is broken

[@maikbaumann1250]

who says killing the pathfinder is not just another part of the cycle ?

[@FriedPotatoOnAStick]

Afaik, when you stab yourself with the godsbane in DDDA, you're doing that game's version of "breaking the cycle", although there are theories that's still part of the cycle itself. Both games are about the value of free will and the importance of people taking hold of their own destinies. They're simply 2 different interpretations and takes on the matter. Personally, while I think there are parallels that you can use to relate them together, they are fundamentally different world setups: In DD2, you don't even know if the Pathfinder is a former arisen as DDDA and there is no foundation for you to become the next pathfinder once you defeat the dragon. In DD2 there's also a new game. Like the comment above, who's to say that killing the Pathfinder isn't a part of the cycle in this game as well? I think you should see it more like both games' true endings are your arisen ending the cycle. Except there's somewhat of a continuity in DDDA because when you go to a NG+, you happen upon a what if scenario where your previous arisen never godsbaned himself.

[@maikbaumann1250]

@@FriedPotatoOnAStick yes and no - differnt world setup story wise but its the same world then dd1 its even the same place. and in case you didnt notice let me blow your mind: the seashrine thingy is gran soren, there is even a broken tower part behind vernworth that could be moonrise and the undead have the gran soren crest on thier shields. so the cycle wasnt broke in dd1 that is 100% confirmed. as you and i said the part of story we saw now could just be another part of the cycle, but i agree we with you using the godsbane is about free will and choosing thier own destiny.

[@NarutoIIPrayer]

@@maikbaumann1250 From what I gather DD1 and DD2 are two realities, specially because in DD1 there is no beast race, but it could be totally Gran Soren but with a different origin and all. Also I'm pretty sure the Pathfinder himself said that the cycle is broken and that he won't see the "new cycle" or whatever he said. Maybe it is part of the cycle, maybe not, but so far it looks like we killed the chaos that would destroy the world, but maybe like in DD1 the Great Will has a safety net that resets the cycle like in DD1.

[@maikbaumann1250]

@@NarutoIIPrayer who knows how long dd2 plays after dd1 the beast race could just migrated there 1000 years ago. i know people dont like it if they cant be the world chaning hero but that what it is. in dd1 we changed nothing and its most likely we didnt change anything now. we dunno how big the cycle is. it could be ~100 years dragons appears, multiple arsien fail, one slay him becomes dragon, one becomes seneshal, one kills himself as seneshal (like dd1) another draggon appears doesnt kill anyone, dies 1000 years later of old age, another dragon appears arisen kills chaos, another dragon appears slips on a banana and dies, another... etc etc ofc it could all be mini cycles and the moment a arisen fights against destiny the cycle breaks for that universe but seeing old gran soren under the water smells differnt.

[@BlahBohogun]

Can't wait for the expanded version!

[@BellowDGaming]

DD1 for me the Arisen gave the pawn he/she had his life since the voice of your pawn becomes your voice at the end forever loyal which you replay with your life as the Arisen and pawn become one being. DDII is all about breaking the cycle and getting rid of the brine so in DDIII we won't have the brine anymore lol

[@jungchoothian2039]

I didn’t know you can fight the dragon before going to the true ending! I got a little spoiled but I’m tried not to know the whole thing. I knew of unmoored world and I was rather going there instead of fighting the dragon. I didn’t know you can do both!

[@outlawdg]

I didn't interact with the blue light in the unmoored world and too much time passed by and I failed that main quest (was resting in battahl to ripen a quince for another quest -_-) what happens when you go to that blue light?

[@Adishollywood]

at the ceremony, i turned back & walked away from the throne with the intention to not become the ruler, hoping for some sort different ending. But it ended just like that. anti climax. but i received rare achievement unlocked

[@Jabe546]

D-d.. did you not realize the sacred grounds is Gran Soren?

[@krasuratos]

I guess they can do a sequel(prequel) where we get to see/play/start the cycle that is dragons dogma and how it branches off in different worlds

[@r3vamped503]

i didnt know there was an unmoored world i literally just killed the dragon then sat on the throne i didnt think bout talking to the pathfinder but ima do it now

[@leow9778]

there is an unskipable cut scene when u fly on the dragon after u got sent back. The dragon is talking non stop and u need to clim under the belly n both u will have golden vibe.. use godsbane then u can start the true ending. If u already in the pit fighting the dragon thats too late.. I fightes the dragon like 5 times.. until I googled it😅

[@justinterrordactyl6132]

@@leow9778 I made the same mistake, fought him twice and thought the game was bugged

[@ghostlyswat12]

The sad part is I didn’t get the default ending achievement because I talked to the ghost guy 😢

[@er1c_s1lv3r7]

I just keep getting sent to the back of the dragon as its already flying to the battlefield.

[@thegodofanimekamitenchi715]

Dragon’s dogma 1 true ending is more make sense than DD2. We got every explanation how the dragon created, what is arisen, and what is seneschal. The lyric it self from the song coils of light literally says “ finish the cycle of eternal return “. Our arisen stabbed themself with godsbane blade. Thus breaking the eternal return or cycle

[@nayeonheartbreaker605]

The ending is a cliff hanger and the last scene where the old man set sail on his boat to the sea in the ending is to pick up the Arisen in the sea after the battle with the final dragon...and that will start the New DLC/saga and the first mission is to find our pawn. Found out why The world need to keep cycling to prevent the real Evil....Maybe :)

[@giwrgosdavola74]

for the the beginning, that is not how it begins, it begins with the dream, and the dragon talking to you, what is important is what the dragon said, that if you want to brake the bonds of fate you must give up being the arisen and give up your life (hinting how you can go for the true ending). you must not ignore all this ditales and ffs in the first game YOU DIDN'T BRAKE THE CYCLE, and excluding all the clues from the first game, the second game prooves that the cycle didn't brake in the first game, when you stab yourself in the first game you fall in the Brine (as the sineshal), when you do the same in the second game you fall in the brine however you fall in as not the sineshal or as the arisen since you stubing yourself while on top of the dragon you breake the heart of the dragon, and start braking the chain, when you fall in to the sea, the pathfinder talks to you and shows you the unmoored world, where you end up defeating the pathfinder, and finally destroyed the cycle. also i should mention all the other digitals. first. the pathfinder is the so called watching one, by the sealed sineshal, the mad shoveren. second. the pathfinder IS THE BRINE. third. the sineshal is sealed by the pathfinder in the everfall. forth. in the first game the pawn just inhabits the body of the arisen, while the soul of the arisen probably talks with the pathfinder when the body fell into the sea, just like you do in the second game. fifth. the gods bane is confirmed to not destroy the arisens soul when stubed by himself, from the second game. sixth. since there canot be more then one sineshal, and the current sineshal is sealed, that part of the sycle is excluded in the second game. seventh. the pathfinder acts as a shineshal too, because the real one is sealed. eighth. the sinechal is also known as the world forged. now that there is no pathfinder and the sineshal is still sealed, there is no one waching over the world, the cycle is broken, so the dangers that where keped away by the cicle will endanger the world again, just like before the cycle was put in place. well there is also the the great will, but there is not enough details about it. also to mention that the thing that ended many world that the pathfinder mentioned was not what happened in the unmoored world, the pathfinder just wanted the arisen to trust that braking the cycle is a bad idea. i really hope that we will het more info in the dlc what is probably coming.

[@vikomonboii6737]

There is an extra ending that i havent seen anyone else get. Its short and weird, but youll end up as the crazy old man in Harve village. I got this by not doing anything but exploring and passing multiple days (Tried to get some rotten food to save the tree in the elf village). Not sure if this is common knowledge.

[@DiogoLZ]

You still have that quest in the unmoored world? And you just passed the days letting everyone dies? I'm confused.

[@vikomonboii6737]

@@DiogoLZ wait, that’s connected to another quest? Which one would that be? And yeah, I just went around fighting bosses while exploring not thinking that I was on a timer (I know the game tells you, but the game caught me of guard by actually having some consequences for once)

[@vikomonboii6737]

@@DiogoLZ oh, think I misunderstood what quest you meant. Yeah I could pick the Elf quest. I think it is connected to the evac of the village.

[@DiogoLZ]

@@vikomonboii6737 Yeah that's what i meant. I was just confused cuz i had no idea this ending existed. That's really interesting!

[@blake714]

so why did the Pawn change into a shadowy drake? didnt make sense to me

[@DioDinero]

Implied to be the dragonsplague- I’m not sure if it’s the same for everyone but at the very least my pawn started showing symptoms the minute I started clearing the unmoored world bosses

[@blake714]

mine had no symptoms at least noticeably. however ive cured my pawns by offing them a few times the moment i see it presenting. based on affinity with the main pawn, the scene changes a bit but what is clear, the MC pawn begins to have a will of its own because of out "great will" I am curious why in both DG games the true end is with the MC death. would be nice if they got a happy ending. @@DioDinero

[@MrKomiczek]

@@blake714 Bcs in both true ends Arisen killed the Dragon but failed to retrieve their heart, without a Dragon you can no longer live heart-less and you die

[@dawn1279]

what i still dont understand is: why that griffin helps you in the beginning and what happens to the fake souvereign in the end?

[@galvind976]

I have finally finished Dragon's Dogma! it took me almost 100 hours, I had a lot of fun with it, but like the first one as much as I like it, the story and characters just doesn't click for me (as much as I do love the true ending with the red sky and dark atmosphere) overall it was a great experience to see this series again and I cannot wait what Capcom will do in the future with the IP😁

[@Luke-rr4tq]

So when the arisen breaks the cycle after defeating the dragon for the final time, does this mean that the arisen dies? (Hope it's not a silly question. It was much more clear what happened to the arisen in the first game.)

[@moanlyn8450]

the player character more than likely dies in the true ending judging by how there not in any of the cutscenes at the end

[@AB-ql3dz]

Not really. When the dragon dies, the heart returns. (Cf: the duke in DD:DA) and makes up for the time they lost without their heart. In the first Dragon's Dogma, the Arisen becomes the seneschal and kills themself to break the cycle. In Dragon's Dogma 2, there is no Senechal and we just see the Arisen being pierced and disappearing into the light. I think it's according to people's headcanon.

[@VoOgl3]

Yes the arisen dies in the true ending apparently.

[@Luke-rr4tq]

​@@AB-ql3dz I really hope you're right. The only other reason I still wonder if they died is because one of the characters in the ending cutscene is looking into the distance. I heard some say that's the arisen's chosen love interest. I was talking to someone I know, and they said that in mythology, a love interest looking into the distance thinking about their lover, usually implies that their lover has died. I'm not sure if I'm understanding that right, I'm not sure if that's the writers' way of saying that the arisen has died, or if they weren't going for that at all. I know that in DD1, the arisen dies. And as there are some similarities between DD1 and DD2, just with no Senechal this time, then I'm not sure if the arisen likely had died in DD2, like they did in DD1 or not?

[@AB-ql3dz]

@@Luke-rr4tq Unlike DD1, we don't see the arisen die and the pawn does not merge with its body. Capcom wouldn't be shy about showing our Arisen's body if they was truly dead. The shot of the lover looking into the distance is subject to interpretation, it can be a hope of seeing the arisen alive again as well as a sign of farewell. This is really open to interpretation.

[@ZephrusPrime]

Affinity system is broke. I had the full romance with Ulrika. I also had the female dwarven blacksmith follow me around town and she gave me the 10% discount. Also the elf Glyndwr had pink cheeks almost the whole game and kept coming for escort trips like 5 of them. YET somehow DD2 chose Lennart as my main love even though I missed most of his quests and hardly ever interacted with him. I gave him ONE escort trip and so now he's suppose to be my main squeeze?! In DDDA Pablo the Inn keeper somehow was my main love too because I stayed in his Inn a million time to level up and regen mobs staying weeks at a time.

[@Kakyo01]

I do agree with a suggestion I've read before. To me it seems the Greater Will and Oblivion/Brine are the same thing, just two sides of the same coin. The Greater Will does create worlds only to see them destroyed again and again. To solve this problem it does create the circle because it can't see the world without itself. "Where there is light there is also shadow." The power to create anything and everything at will can't come without consequences. The Arisen in the True Ending removes the Greater Will from the equation and thus oblivion is removed too. The world can start to heal itself.

[@BlackNero31]

So in this universe is there no seneschal? Or is the mad king or the pathfinder the seneschal?

[@MasonLopez]

It's open ended. I'm thinking the Great Will is the entity that kicked off the systems in both games. In DD1, we see the Great Will start the Seneschal chain to see how that works. In this game, we see the Great Will try a Pathfinder that keeps a more controlled loop in place. So I'm not sure if Pathfinder = Seneschal as much as Pathfinder fulfills the role of "God" in a the same way Seneschal fulfills the role of "God". DD1 has a new God replacing the old God, and DD2 shows a single God maintaining all loops with an intense desire to always exist to see the next loop. Both have problems, both trample Free Will, and so both get dismantled by the player by the game's credits. I imagine a DD3 with a new version of the cycle, and possibly an attempt to finally end ALL attempts at these cycles. We keep breaking the cycle, but then a new cycle comes along anyway. Won't it be fun to finally break THAT one.

[@paledrake]

There is no seneschal, no pathfinder and no oblivion. The world has been freed of the dragon's dogma essentially.

[@paledrake]

@@MasonLopez Seneschal is basically the overseer of a world. Pathfinder is basically the overseer of all worlds. Oblivion is the Brine, which was a much bigger deal than we thought, but that thing is gone now too. The Great Will still probably exists, whatever that is.

[@morbid1.]

I made a mistake and triggerend ending I didn't know it will happen and fucking save files are lost so I can't go back and buy/find more items... annoying so fucking much

[@m1a1szajbus23]

we will see what DLC bring

[@drakeford4860]

Personally, I ascribe to the theory that the Watching One isn't the Seneschal, but rather the being that stands above the Seneschals. It's hinted and implied in the first game (particularly in Dark Arisen and in Savan's dialogue) that such an entity exists, overseeing a number of worlds with a number of Seneschals. In all likelihood, I believe that Rothais ascended to the position of Seneschal and then rejected the cycle, causing the Watching One to step in personally. A big detail that I don’t see talked about enough is that the Arisen alone was not enough. It took the will of countless individuals- man, pawn, and Arisen- to face down the Pathfinder. Rothais literally bestows us with his own will in the form of the Godsbane, entrusting us to finish what he began. Even then, it is only made whole by the effort of men fight against the yoke of the cycle, forging the Godsbane in the blood of dragons using the knowledge gleaned only through the collection and forging of the shattered wills of Arisen past. Unlike the first game, our victory is not ours alone- it is the culmination of tge wills of innumerable souls straining against the chains of the ever-turning wheel across untold spans of eternity. It is only in the foundation laid by their wills that our own was able to take root.

[@thebigenchilada678]

That’d be cool if the game attempted in any way to convey that.

[@drakeford4860]

@@thebigenchilada678 It does a few things actually. Rothais' throne is the Seneschal's throne from DA1. Rothais pulls the Godsbane from himself to bestow us with it- something we also see the Seneschal do in the first game. The Pathfinder, aside from going by a different title. Also seems to have an entirely different outlook on the cycle and the role of its keeper. Then there's the commentary of the old nutter at Harve- a former arisen himself, one which, should a certain ending be considered, likely made it closer to breaking the cycle than any other before us. Dragon's Dogma has never been overly forthright with its thematic and metaphysical concepts, but they are there. I'm not going to pretend the writing is better than it is- it leaves an awful lot of holes- but it also gives some puzzle pieces to those willing to look for them.

[@tomkojot]

So i reached the true ending before even fightnig the Dragon. Just stabbed my own heart before getting to the battleground. Am I going to miss something because of that?

[@louiezdrodowski2844]

So when the arisen kills the dragon does the world reset as if no one killed the dragon?

[@DioDinero]

I think NG+ with the true ending is just “You literally start over with your stats/gear” as opposed to how DD1 did it where it loops in some weird continuity type of way

[@ghostlyswat12]

The worlds carry’s on and then 100 odd years later the dragon comes back

[@h3llofademon]

Taylor Swift - The main pawn

[@jamessargent1210]

Funny enough, I went to the guide and fought the dragon again, not realising to use the godbane sword and then didn't take the throne and walked in the opposite direction to exit the throne room. A message came up saying 'peace' and put me back to the menu. 😂

[@Daddy2025HQ]

Looking forward for DLC such a great game

[@MACizera]

There are already rumors about DD3. It's a world in which they put 5% effort into quest!

[@TurinInquisitor]

7:36 what? so there should be no brine in NG+?

[@dj.deeznuttz7659]

I just beat the game and it said I finished every piece of content it had in 187 hours like damn I sure did explore the heck out of this game 😂got it day 1 as well.

[@HasanBabasi]

So in the true ending the brine is gone? I’m so confused

[@clementbataille4995]

So your teling me, you can actually fight the dragon ?? I was so disappointed when I finished the game that I couldn't relieve the epic battle from the first game, but I just used the blade because I thought that was what was triggering the fight

[@Moomies]

If the Dragon's Dogma protecting us is broken at the end of the true ending, why isn't the world being destroyed by oblivion?

[@thebigenchilada678]

Because the writers had 2 weeks to write the script.

[@tvbenglishsongtranslations]

I got the true ending on playthrough 1. I felt so sad that after all the time devoted to the game the ending technically wasn’t a happy one for the Arisen and the main pawn. Even if the Arisen sacrificed themselves I wished the main pawn lived on. So loyal with us for the journey I honestly could not give one flying F*ck about the world or many of the characters we interacted with in the game to be honest outside say Ulrika. I mean I would honestly sacrifice Captain Bryant at a drop of the hat but didn’t because I felt that wasn’t going to be a true game ending… So for me the ending wasn’t great and a turn off for devoting such time to play the game. Don’t think I’ll be playing anymore of this crap game…

[@blackcat3585]

Same! You spend so much time with your pawn and they expect you to care about some npc you did a quest for? Really lame. All I cared about was my pawn and i wanted the best for them. The true ending was such a let down.

[@GuyYagami]

Who even gives the idea to stab yourself with the empowered Godsbane during the Dragon ride? How would one find out to do this on their own?

[@serlusacan3880]

It's probably for people who play the first game because that's how I figured it out

[@GuyYagami]

That I understand with the god's bane in DD1 after becoming the seneschal, but why on the dragon though?@@serlusacan3880

[@wickeddrac7489]

Talking to the old guy in the shack who talks about Talos and he mentions it, saying something akin to trying something different then destroying the dragon over and over again in the cycle

[@joescorner4353]

There was definitely signs.

[@agent_hex]

I didn't figure it out either but two indicators I recognized after the fact were simply the fact that you spend time empowering the sword but never use it. Second, you glow right at the point where you are able to use the item.

[@Liquid_Paper]

Just finished this game so im here to confirm what ending i got 😂

[@itsLimitedEdition]

I don’t like how the ghostly mf that’s been helping you the whole time talks shit about you wether you chose good or true ending like?! 🤣 Good; “you could do better” True; “Look what you’ve done, plunged the world into darkness, despair and death. You’ll never be able to fix this” LIKE MY GUY WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME😭😭

[@austinhdjd1325]

The game was fun but kind of lame that after you beat the true ending and break the cycle you just have to start over from the begging instead of having a free play. I know it’s implied that we died when we used the gods bane by how your closest npc is staring at the water but that just feels like a cop out to not have to have more content. That’s my main issue with this game is lack of content. Not very many side missions or things to do and the world seems big bc no fast travel but after playing ne shame plus 2 times you realize that it’s really not that big at all and very easy to remember the whole map. I still loved the game I just feel like with all this time between games they could have added so much more that it almost feels lazy on their part

[@milandurant8927]

Meanwhile I got the “Peace” ending by taking too long to make a decision 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@izyizu7697]

My dream of seeing my character marry Ulrika after all this madness is doom cuz i do the true ending ToT.

[@doomtrigger]

gran soren is the seabed floor shrine.. this is gransys..

[@kodylarson2983]

Or least a version of it, Vermund may be what's left of nation Gran Soren, may be what's left of a neighboring kingdom of Gran Soren. When we become seneschal in DD1 and kill ourselves to end the cycle, i feel like the great will was some what upset at such a thing, created the pathfinder and sunk Gran Soren in an attempt to never have a arisen from there break the cycle again. fast forward to DD2 however many cycles its been, perhaps not to many based on the technology and cultural changes we get a new potentially cycle ending arisen. If we get a DD3 i feel it will be the last, and we may see the ruins of Gran Soren as well as perhaps a scarred landscape of Vermund/Bathal with new nations/peoples.

[@radecstark3191]

Pretty much you restore the cycle

[@BlueFlamer-vq1iv]

Do we die again?

[@sweggieboi4928]

For me the dragon was holding up one of Trysha's grandparents. Not very motivating to save an old gran though I did.

[@leow9778]

😂😂😂😂😂 u gift grandma too much lol

[@kagevanwagoner]

One of the worst stories I’ve ever played, made to feel even worse when compared to the amazing gameplay and world.

[@kuchiku-kanzo759]

I beat the dragon but talk to spirit guy. And i have to keep repeating the dragon boss fight. What else am i supposed to do. I let the dragon beat me once and nothing

[@kuchiku-kanzo759]

As I text that the game finished and I got a trophy called peace lololol. I'm sure that's not the true ending

[@kuchiku-kanzo759]

And thus. I got the true ending lol

[@OG21020]

LOL. I thought it would have a typical Japanese ending and it does; the hero dies at the end, leaving the LI half happy, half sad, staring sadly at sea / sky, whatever. 🤣🤣 Predictable. I'm gratified I'm not wrong.

[@finman123]

I got the true ending yesterday, it was surprisingly easy in the end, Magick Archer made the game easy for me.

[@leow9778]

there is a boss fight in the true ending? I saved everyone and sleep one day.. then the final scene.. no boss fight at all...😅

[@Athidius]

@@leow9778 The beacons, the ones in the elf village and vernworth have boss fights.

[@AkrabSouls]

Endgame is not infinitely playable?

[@Shadic24367]

It can be if you destroy every dragon thing on the map in the unmoored world, it'll stop the spread of the red fog which allows you to explore to your heart's content

[@COOLPEAK]

It is if you never die

[@superxmario128]

Technically no. While you can stop the fog from spreading, there is still a rest limit. Most people have said you can only rest 12 times before the game tells you that you can no longer rest anymore (I've seen screenshots of it). This does eventually mean that while you aren't on a time limit if you beat all of the bosses, you will have to finish the game eventually since mobs generally will not respawn back since you can't rest and the time of day does not advance despite the sky getting lighter and darker. You get plenty of time but not unlimited time.

[@td984]

​​@@superxmario128mobs do respawn back and fairly quickly. I've fought the same dullahans 2-3 times between rests just by running around the map finding chests. You have limited rests and time seems to stop but seems like enemy respawn time works differently.

[@superxmario128]

@@td984 @td984 Not in my playthrough. Large chunks of the map remained empty for hours until I finally went to bed to usually heal the pawns I liked in my party and didn't want to switch them out to fully heal them. I pushed through with full heal elixirs for awhile. Mini bosses certainly don't respawn unless you do. It's mainly because the in game time doesn't really progress unless you sleep at that point. I had a pawn team that I rolled with for about 6 hours only for the game to tell me I only traveled with them for 1 day (the day I rested) when I finally sent them off.

[@IAmMuffin.]

eggman volcanic island

[@zazikikomo7796]

Oh no no no no... he didn't get the high affinity pawn ending...

[@lgtokyo2665]

The Dragon Princess is not verified. Don’t perpetuate a false narrative mate.

[@kituwahband]

I hate the unmoored world space!! I finally figured out how to get to ng+ from there. When the credits rolled and i was on the dragon's back, i just didn't take it seriously and just let my character "die" which put me in a loop of being stuck in the unmoored world 😂

[@RSAgility]

The ending will tie into the DLC's theme and story, likely like MHW iceborne... Add new enemies!! 😂

[@hyprbeem]

[@burgersinplenty5520]

I booth love anz hate the game, the phasing of the story is slow and uninteresting, combat is okey, me and my friend who played it together we called it a walking simulator, tallk to this guy here, walk for 58 minutes talk to her go to this cave here and bring me this another 58 minutes, kill this, walk here 58 minutes etc etc

[@Detac3]

Wut? What happened to the seneschal?

[@moanlyn8450]

you break the cycle of the seneschal in the first game

[@BlackNero31]

@@moanlyn8450I didn’t think this game was connected to the first game?

[@moanlyn8450]

@@BlackNero31 you can go back to gran soren and can find other locations and Items from the first game

[@BlackNero31]

@@moanlyn8450what are you talking about? Gran soren is in Gransys dragons dogma 2 is set in Vermund you can’t go to gran soren in this game

[@moanlyn8450]

@@BlackNero31 you most certainly can

[@johnstallone4807]

I'm a bit dumb, in the 'true ending', is the Arisen dead afterwards? I have no desire to sacrifice myself, lol. I played a bit of the unmoored world and wasn't too interested and if I'm sacrificing myself, that's not my thing.

[@zowbaid89]

Man this ending was so much more disappointing compared to the first game. The first game had epic climactic endings and reveals. I thought here, you'd become the next pathfinder, and THEN maybe uncover something new behind this role instead of just suiciding again like in the last game. But instead, you just simply become a Sovran for beating the dragon, and you're meant to accept it and move on. But then you break this cycle and uncovering the unmoored world. But you realize this was a mistake and you should save the people again by ending THIS cycle instead, thus killing the pathfinder in dragon form and ending the unmoored world and Brine from Existance. The Brine seems to be a creation or a part of the Pathfinder himself and limiting and hindering people's live to this one continent in order to "watch" them. But with this guy gone, who's going to be the next pathfinder? Cuz obviously they're appointed by the Great Will, and the Great Will ain't going anywhere. Heck, they can just recreate this whole cycle again if they wanted. We didn't really STOP anything. IDK, I just feel really shortchanged with this game's ending. I was hoping for more....I hope to God DLC comes out that explains more of everything post-game-wise, instead of just adding some random side-content grind.

[@JLkeepinitrealdude]

That- *I will say, isn’t a great ending in the context of the overall story* The idea of continuing the endless chain of infinite worlds via a cycle of death, rebirth and ascension is _much_ better in my opinion. Seeing it play out *again* would have been great to see, rather than seeing the final end to it all in the sequel

[@joehutchcraft1675]

I whole heartedly agree, the despair of knowing that you will be replaced by yet another Arisen to continue the endless loop and creation of more Dragons from failed Arisen and Daemons from enraged failures makes a more compelling story. Also the fact that your pawn continues it in "your" stead make it dark af.

[@nojusticenetwork9309]

So you want Dark Souls. Because that's literally the Dark Souls plot. And Dark Souls ' story is ass. That's why it's told in the most convoluted way possible.

[@splintergp]

@@nojusticenetwork9309 bro wtf u talking about, dragons dogma has an even bigger weird way of showing the game lore

[@paledrake]

@@splintergp Through quests, dialogue and cutscenes? Bruh you're just wrong. Dark Souls doesn't even do that much 99% of the time.

[@splintergp]

@@paledrake dark souls has dialogues. yet you can get to know more about the world than in dragons dogma, in dark souls you have other continents/kingdoms and places and get to know them via descriptions, yet in dragons dogma you only understand the fuck is going on at the end of the game, you're literally the entire game doing something you dont really understand and not doing anything to do with it at all, in dark souls you learn the lore through the entire game through npcs and items

[@elijahpinedo9885]

For me the original ending was far better because you get to fight your past self and pawn with all the powers And skills you acquired as them almost as if you're making your own final boss that Was super unique more game should do this more. But the dragon's dog my 2 ending We currently have seems very weak and meaningless because we are still repeating the cycle. When we go to our next play through it there's no pay off. Besides skills and items you acquired during your first run. Just just repeating the cycle.12:25

[@franciscosamir5256]

Good combat and graphics, rest of the game sucks ass

[@THEGAMESEEKERS]

Menella is my beast babe 😘chu

[@MrJaxon620]

Gar-ba-gé

[@PapaZigg]

I hate all the endings

[@LionofDawn]

This game is a lie. Alternative universe seems like an excuse for them to simply create a reboot. Too many steps back in this game. less versatility in combat due to less skills being equipable. And i missed the gigantus fight because the damn thing was too far away and suddenly triggered when i was all the way fighting Medusa. But even after the fight i was outside and not allowed to teleport to any of my portcrystals on the volcanic island, making me miss the whole fight. The game doesn't even warn you that there is a point of no return. Also would it have killed them to give us a mount and a saddle bag so we don't have to do so much inventory managment every minute?

[@paledrake]

It's not an alternate universe, didn't you realize that the Sacred Grounds is actually the ruins of Gran Soren of the first game? It's the same world, we were lied to all along.

[@Zoretsu]

I didn’t like the end game content one it’s not like DD1 where you can stay there in the end game and farm all you want respawning the enemies na the game forces you to go to NG+ which doesn’t even give you a reward in DD1 you got a reward and you also got the UR dragon rift stone which let you fight him whenever DD2 has such a cool looking enemy with that final giant dragon but you don’t get to fight it atleast they should had turned it into something like the UR dragon shit I would had been happy with that but the devs did so many things wrong and the game felt rushed with how OP I got so fast I honestly thought that them giving me all that gear that fast was because the end game content would be hard but nahh Honestly all the game did was make me go back to DD1 😂I prefer DD1 specially for the end game ever fall and ur dragon I don’t mention Bitter black as end game because its a DLC and not part of the base game plus I go there at lvl 1 😂 hopefully DD2 DLC brings more enemies and not just re skin version of old enemies and a tougher challenge

[@leow9778]

right on points! it was worse than DD1. feel like totally rushed and half baked.

[@Zoretsu]

@@leow9778 yea but it’s already expected game companies no longer care about making good games

[@nojusticenetwork9309]

The story for both games are ass. They both lean too heavily on this idea that the greatest act of free will is to essentially become a martyr and sends the message self-sacrifice is the only way to make a difference. What happened to hard work, perseverance, ingenuity and cunning? Dragon's Dogma isn't a dark fantasy story, its not Dark Souls. It has the room to allow for mor variance in how to break or continue the cycle. Its completely uninspired the story they chose to tell.

[@Vaduroth]

L take

[@splintergp]

what do you mean, in dragons dogma 2 the player breaks the cycle, which leads to the impending doom happen which in dd2 appears to be the brine devouring the world, however the pawn and arisen have gathered so much will that even the pawn has a will of its own now and with that they procceeded to kill literal GOD that apparently is what was actually keeping the cycle going since they instead of sacrificing themselves or stopping the brine so the world could thrive, just made the arisen/dragon instead, then somehow by killing god itself the arisen frees the world from the cycle, its a literal happy ending

[@wradBrad]

Yeah, I'd like an ending where I don't have to kill myself to get the best outcome. One where I can just live happy and free in the world I worked so damn hard for with no strings attached.

[@earthbound_one]

Well obviously it is a dark fantasy, or at least both games become one at endgame

[@darkline64]

If you want to stop a play, you break character.

[@unwantedsoul9401]

I defeated the dragon, I then talked to the pathfinder in the throne room and it sent me back to the beginning of the dragon fight. Anyone know why this happened? I'm pretty upset, I don't wanna fight him again.

[@chibimarie5420]

I get it. I do. But as a player who puts in so much time into their character and having their pawn by their side the entire time, knowing they both die in the true ending, regardless of the good they are doing for the world, was heartbreaking. I literally cried when my pawn made his sacrifice. It’s similar to completing the true ending in Nier Automata: I just feel… empty 🥲

[@mikeTmaggot]

Wow the true ending is shit