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Dragon's Dogma 2 Patched: Big Improvements - But Is It Fully Fixed?

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Күн бұрын

UPDATE: Please check the pinned comment for a correction on the high/low preset. The low preset reduces resolution. Apologies for the oversight.
Dragon's Dogma 2 is now onto Patch 7, promising new graphics options, 120Hz support for PlayStation 5 and much-needed CPU optimisations - but what does that look like in the actual game? Oliver Mackenzie takes a look, finding that the improvements are genuine with most of our suggestions for the game taken onboard to a certain extent - but it's still far from perfect.
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00:00 Overview
00:55 Xbox Series X Analysis
05:44 PlayStation 5 Analysis
08:14 Xbox Series S Analysis
09:49 Analysis and conclusion

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@DigitalFoundry
@DigitalFoundry Ай бұрын
UPDATE: A quick correction: the high/low preset actually does appear to change more than just motion blur and ray tracing. In side-by-side shots on Series X, the game is clearly less detailed and lower-resolution with the low settings preset enabled, as opposed to the game running with the high settings preset with RT and motion blur disabled. Other visual settings seem to be identical. The game running with the low preset also runs faster than the game set to high with RT and motion blur disabled, at least in GPU-limited areas. The PS5 is similar to Series X with the low preset in image quality. Like in other GPU-limited areas of the game, the PS5 runs somewhat slower than Series X with the low preset. Sample media: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6nRh5hrg8yJa5I
@ESENTE
@ESENTE Ай бұрын
Do you know if I set graphics to LOW, then switch the RT on does the performance boost still applies?
@unholy3280
@unholy3280 29 күн бұрын
So, what are the best settings for PS5 and XSX - RT and motion blur disabled with graphics set to high or graphics high with RT and motion blur on? Oh, and framerate toggle to 120 Hz?
@whitewolf1054
@whitewolf1054 28 күн бұрын
​@@unholy3280on ps5 with vrr on,Graphics low ,motion blur and raytracing off. By me run the game so smoothe 55-60ffps
@ryanmartin8954
@ryanmartin8954 20 күн бұрын
Can you take a look July 11th patch on PC. The frame time stability issue were introduced back into cities when they "patched" an NPC bug. Curious to see the difference in the multi-core utilization before/after the patch.
@Novskyy621
@Novskyy621 Ай бұрын
Pls write consoles on the title... hoped for a PC coverage
@theloniuspunk383
@theloniuspunk383 Ай бұрын
this. games don't work on consoles
@mikewalnoha8971
@mikewalnoha8971 Ай бұрын
Oh no! Did you waste 15 seconds clicking a video?
@anonforuz
@anonforuz Ай бұрын
@@mikewalnoha8971 at least they didnt waste 70 dollars on the cinematic console version.
@d4mterro320
@d4mterro320 Ай бұрын
Get educated kid. This game can BARELY be fixed on console
@choushawn633
@choushawn633 Ай бұрын
ps5 have lfc?
@Pinoisreadingabook
@Pinoisreadingabook Ай бұрын
Conclusion: It's not fixed.
@pandaraph
@pandaraph Ай бұрын
Conclusion: its fine
@SyamAraragi
@SyamAraragi Ай бұрын
Conclusion: It's aaight..
@timlarkin4471
@timlarkin4471 Ай бұрын
Conclusion: It's buttery smooth compared to Skyrim at launch.
@griffin5734
@griffin5734 Ай бұрын
@@timlarkin4471 even skyrim was smoother than skyrim at launch
@hundredhanded1205
@hundredhanded1205 Ай бұрын
Brave, IGN-level summation.
@Nolasco.
@Nolasco. Ай бұрын
A true 60fps would have been great but I just don't see that happening and if it does I would be a very happy man. Thanks for the coverage Oliver 😊👍🏼
@noodle_Cx
@noodle_Cx Ай бұрын
you're a man? thats so cool
@Stardomplay
@Stardomplay Ай бұрын
I think it's possible with the appropriate optimizations. Maybe they will release one eventually because they still plan on optimizing game performance.
@professorsequoia7318
@professorsequoia7318 Ай бұрын
I get a stable 70 to 80 on ps5 with a higher end monitor with ray tracing. Apparently a good monitor really helps the situation, at least in my case!
@sharangagnihotri1511
@sharangagnihotri1511 Ай бұрын
​@@professorsequoia7318huh??? What are you smoking???
@yourlocalhuman3526
@yourlocalhuman3526 Ай бұрын
@@dorian6021 it's a troll trying to bait comments
@Andrew-wb2zq
@Andrew-wb2zq Ай бұрын
What a bummer. The performance of this game is a real shame.
@K11S03C1996
@K11S03C1996 Ай бұрын
Dude, just remove the FPS counter of the screen, and you'll be able to enjoy a good game.
@ruekurei88
@ruekurei88 Ай бұрын
@@K11S03C1996 You're still gonna notice frame drops, inconsistencies in fps, hitching and stuttering. Some people won't, some will, that's how it always worked, even if there is no counter and hard data for people to see.
@K11S03C1996
@K11S03C1996 Ай бұрын
​@@ruekurei88 I've already finished the game twice. The only time I *noticed* frame drops was when entering the main city. And it only lasted about 10 seconds.
@gv2212
@gv2212 Ай бұрын
Yeah thats cool that it doesnt bother you. That doesnt mean it wont for others ​@@K11S03C1996
@pandaraph
@pandaraph Ай бұрын
I dont think there is a single new game that will please you people. Just pack it up man, just get out of the hobby its over for you, nothing will ever be good enough for any of you anyways so just get your things and leave. Its not ment to be, im sorry these games arnt running flawlessly at 120fps with a million particles on the screen while giving you head man its just never gonna happen, your doomed man.
@PrimeMover93
@PrimeMover93 Ай бұрын
I won’t play this until it’s 60fps. Shame
@joshwaterman5526
@joshwaterman5526 Күн бұрын
Same. I’m very disappointed in capcom. They were on such a good roll with games until this came out.
@kpsk8031
@kpsk8031 Ай бұрын
This game's technical performance remains inexcusable. So many compromises and still no stable 30fps.
@TnerB91
@TnerB91 Ай бұрын
Yeah if it hasn’t been fixed by this point it’s not going to be, I honestly don’t think these consoles CPU’s can handle this game at 60fps consistently no matter the resolution or RT. The game is just way to CPU intensive
@v1kt0u5
@v1kt0u5 Ай бұрын
6:53 ehmm, more like 10% according to your numbers on screen =S ... and the Xbox's persistent checkerboard issue sucks. What's the excuse for that?
@piau9000
@piau9000 Ай бұрын
In the history of video games, has any game this broken ever been fixed? Everyone knew it would never be fixed. It requires a complete rewrite of the entire game code.
@mrwalker6026
@mrwalker6026 Ай бұрын
Power of the PS5..LMFAO
@mna.author
@mna.author Ай бұрын
@@piau9000 Cyberpunk and Fallout 76. They were way worse but got fixed... mostly. If the devs and studio want 60fps locked and stable 30, they can. They just dont want to pay the money to do that
@yagami999913
@yagami999913 Ай бұрын
I'm worried about Monster Hunter Wilds ...
@ahampel22
@ahampel22 Ай бұрын
Me too. It seems like they don't care if a game runs smoothly, as long as it looks nice. 30 fps or less is going to kill MHW.
@yagami999913
@yagami999913 Ай бұрын
@@ahampel22 It's not the devs that don't care, it's obviously the consumers. The devs just picked up on this tendency and became lazy. I was shocked to observe that most people just want for their game to look crisp on a 70 inch TV and then they'll swear to your that it performs fine and you're overreacting when the game is running below 30fps.
@TheUAProdigy
@TheUAProdigy Ай бұрын
@@yagami999913 From an actual developer, just know that we are more productive than anyone could even imagine. Our bosses, who cannot code force us to leave out polish and release early to make money. We do NOT have a choice.
@yagami999913
@yagami999913 Ай бұрын
@@TheUAProdigy Yeah, sorry if it came out as an offense to the actual devs. I just use the term for "those responsible of releasing the game". But yeah, i know you guys are the last link in the production chain and that the crappy decisions are almost never coming from you but from the higher-ups.
@Mohgenstein
@Mohgenstein 21 күн бұрын
MH World ran like ass too 🤷
@PlayerOblivion
@PlayerOblivion Ай бұрын
Still runs terrible, awful frametime too.
@sinaolaei
@sinaolaei Ай бұрын
At least they tried. Unlike some popular Japanese developer who recently had a very successful expansion launch but didn't touch the game's performance issues.
@fenixa2z936
@fenixa2z936 Ай бұрын
Absolutely inexcusable. I played the PS4 Pro version of Elden Ring on PS5 and it rauns and looks like a champ minus grass foliage density but sad you have to do this in the first place.
@Drilbit
@Drilbit Ай бұрын
@@fenixa2z936 Like just add a performance mode on ps5/xbox series that lets you do 1080p and scaled back settings to get 60.
@UFCWWE69
@UFCWWE69 Ай бұрын
@@fenixa2z936why tf are games still being made for last gen anyways? I went over to my buddy’s house over the weekend and the state of his gameplay on mw3 ps4 might be the worse thing I’ve ever seen. Dude was playing with regular drops into like 30 fps with constant stutters 🤦‍♂️
@desmondbrown5508
@desmondbrown5508 Ай бұрын
@@fenixa2z936 Yeah, given the visual design and target of that game, there's absolutely no reason modern consoles (let alone freaking high end PCs) should have to compromise on anything that game is doing. Even it's RT mode is extremely basic and just tanks performance for seemingly no reason.
@FlowerKnight2
@FlowerKnight2 Ай бұрын
Yeah I don't understand how this game was ripped to shreds by people for performance but no one bats an eye at the persistent stuttering of Elden Ring on PC.
@EatThePath-7
@EatThePath-7 Ай бұрын
Since there is no PC coverage i'll assume Capcom has not lifted a finger to do something about it. I'll just pick up the game when it's at $10-15 off a key site then
@lilpain1997
@lilpain1997 Ай бұрын
Why even bother with it at all? It's performance will always be poor.
@juanalvarado7794
@juanalvarado7794 Ай бұрын
Or $7 like the previous one
@yomamasohot6411
@yomamasohot6411 Ай бұрын
​Because buying it from a keysite means it doesn't benefit Capcom directly. And the performance issues aside it is a damn good game​@@lilpain1997
@Alacod19
@Alacod19 Ай бұрын
@@lilpain1997 Because a poorly optimized decent game is a easier pill to swallow when it's cheap on the wallet. The entire narrative around Dragons Dogma 2 is it's a great game just bad optimization.
@band0lero
@band0lero Ай бұрын
From other videos it seems like they did improve it a lot on PC
@nicodimus2222
@nicodimus2222 Ай бұрын
If there will always be 12 years between these games, maybe in 2036 we can get Dragon's Dogma 3 that finally runs at 60fps on PS7.
@Jack_Sparrow131
@Jack_Sparrow131 Ай бұрын
I can understand that consoles (which released back in 2020) can't get 60 fps since some game engines are bad.. But even a brand new $2000 high-end PC can't get stable 60 fps in main city.. is just horrible Unless U have Ryzen 7800x3D (3D Cache doing the heavy lifting), then even intel i9 can't get stable 60 fps (broken engine need a lot of fixes)
@silverheart7964
@silverheart7964 Ай бұрын
It's nothing to do with the pc. You could have a NASA space ultra powered alien starship computer and it wouldn't make a difference. It's a badly optimized game with cpu-intensive tendencies.
@Jack_Sparrow131
@Jack_Sparrow131 Ай бұрын
@silverheart7964 I know that, but it's not really CPU heavy.. in fact, it doesn't use much of CPU overall The main issue is the engine itself.. it's more than 1 decade old designed back in PS3 era, they modified it partially.. but you can't improve it that much since it's half broken in 1st place Even Elden Ring engine is trash.. it's same engine as Demons Souls from 15+ years ago (2009) Lol Japanese developers release 9/10 super great games.. but their programming team is like 1 decade latest best.. maybe they are old people and the company doesn't want to fire them, or the company don't want to lose 2% of profit to make a new engine.. no one knows Lol
@ArtVandelay592
@ArtVandelay592 Ай бұрын
@@Jack_Sparrow131Dragon’s Dogma 2 is made in the RE Engine which was made for the PS4/XB1 gen. So I mean when you consider that RE7 and the engine has probably been in development since 2014, yeah the engine is old now. But it’s been a very optimized engine that looks and runs great on just about every game made in it, minus this one. And the key culprit I think (I’m not a dev though so take it with a grain of salt) is the RE Engine just wasn’t made to support massive open worlds like Dragon’s Dogma 2. All the Resident Evil games, DMC5, and all the other games made in this engine have been relatively linear games made in small scale condensed environments and that’s where the engine really excels.
@jemandetwas1
@jemandetwas1 Ай бұрын
You can't just chalk up every technical problem a game has to its engine. They are sometimes at fault, but sometimes it's just the developers who fucked up/didn't have enough time
@buttersexc
@buttersexc Ай бұрын
this is the re engine. i think its just the devs not knowing how to optimize
@dylanhendley5003
@dylanhendley5003 Ай бұрын
These devs need to get their shit together. DD2 and Elden Ring just both run so horribly, DD2 might run a little better now, but holy fuck does ER SoTE run like absolute dogshit.
@ramonosuke
@ramonosuke Ай бұрын
Which makes no sense, cause the engine is pretty much the unchanged since Dark Souls 3, and base Elden Ring runs fantastic
@alumlovescake
@alumlovescake Ай бұрын
@@ramonosuke Base Elden Ring doesn't run fantastic and DS3 has had issues ever since the servers came back online
@yourlocalhuman3526
@yourlocalhuman3526 Ай бұрын
Why must you lie​@@ramonosuke
@joaovictordb20
@joaovictordb20 Ай бұрын
@@ramonosuke i mean, DS3 did have really poor performance on consoles when it released too
@Iliketo420
@Iliketo420 Ай бұрын
What kind of 🥔 🥔 🥔 do yall have??
@pedroffline
@pedroffline Ай бұрын
So still not even close to 60 fps? Well, still a no for me. Can't belive they'll pull this again for monster hunter next year.
@Smexbi
@Smexbi Ай бұрын
Bruh, it's console, you can't expect all games to run like that. If you care for 60fps, build a PC.
@pintergabor5404
@pintergabor5404 Ай бұрын
​@@SmexbiThat is exactly the point of consoles. To get a more consistent, polished experience due to the fixed hardware.
@theorangecandle
@theorangecandle Ай бұрын
@@pintergabor5404 I mean yeah for the price, $500 PC will be less consistent than a console, but most PC players systems are worth at least 1k, at that point it blows console out of the water.
@mikem2253
@mikem2253 Ай бұрын
@@Smexbi Yes he can. Its his wallet.
@vivid8979
@vivid8979 Ай бұрын
​@@pintergabor5404It's still relative to the tech being used in the game engine and how demanding it is... Not every game is created equal and some are just more demanding than others.
@SmokinSNYP3R
@SmokinSNYP3R Ай бұрын
I'd take a 60 fps mode over the bells and whistles any day. The graphics still look good! Give us the option to choose between 30fps and 60fps
@Sinorras
@Sinorras Ай бұрын
this game needed 2 - 3 years more in the oven, for more than just technical reasons.
@atomickaiser1934
@atomickaiser1934 29 күн бұрын
Fix the underbaked story too.
@ghosttoast8326
@ghosttoast8326 29 күн бұрын
@@atomickaiser1934 Does is still have low enemy variety? That was just one of my concerns about the game, and how it didn't expand much from DDDA
@atomickaiser1934
@atomickaiser1934 29 күн бұрын
@@ghosttoast8326 I've played 30-40 hours and haven't seen much difference in enemies besides variations. I was looking forward to the hydra and haven't seen it once.
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 27 күн бұрын
I think Capcom is a dying studio at this point.
@paddington2063
@paddington2063 27 күн бұрын
@@90lancasterhilarious time to say that. Capcom is literally thriving, giving bonuses left and right to their studios. They’re massively successful right now - moreso than ever.
@Bankoru
@Bankoru Ай бұрын
PSA: Setting Graphics to LOW is NOT the same as setting to HIGH and then disabling RT and Motion blur (Custom). Setting to Low actually gets much closer to 60fps as it reduces resolution etc.
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 Ай бұрын
It turns off RT and looks like DD1 in terms of lighting. Absolutely terrible
@Bankoru
@Bankoru Ай бұрын
@@kraenk12 Nobody is saying it's great. I'm just surprised DF missed that setting.
@kimlee6643
@kimlee6643 Ай бұрын
Kinda worried for MH Wilds...
@Worick_
@Worick_ Ай бұрын
You should be, they’re getting way too ambitious with weak hardware
@Fafnir2000
@Fafnir2000 Ай бұрын
​@@Worick_is fucking rtx 3080 a weak hardware? This game run like shit on that as well
@BryceCzirr-jz7ju
@BryceCzirr-jz7ju Ай бұрын
@@Fafnir2000Yes. That GPU is super weak. Only 10gb of Vram. I got a 4090 because my old 3080ti wasn't cutting it.
@XxKidnoffxX
@XxKidnoffxX Ай бұрын
@@Fafnir2000 Yes it's weak. On my 4090, the game run perfectly since day one
@Fafnir2000
@Fafnir2000 Ай бұрын
@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju you guys are fucking out of your mind
@v1kt0u5
@v1kt0u5 Ай бұрын
6:53 ehmm, more like 10% according to your numbers on screen =S ... and the Xbox's persistent checkerboard issue sucks. What's the excuse for that?
@YuoTube-vy4ej
@YuoTube-vy4ej 28 күн бұрын
They shouldn't have made this using the RE Engine, it wasn't made for open world games
@shakadamus145
@shakadamus145 Ай бұрын
Still runs like arse for me, maybe in 5 to 10 years when I have a whole new PC
@Novskyy621
@Novskyy621 Ай бұрын
A new PC won't help on unoptimized software
@DewtehDew
@DewtehDew Ай бұрын
It’s not your pc, game is optimized like dog shit.
@dzonymielony5
@dzonymielony5 Ай бұрын
Can you compare all the graphic modes of The First Descendant on consoles, including frame generation and ray tracing? I'd love to know which combination of settings gives you the best results.
@ps3isthebest560
@ps3isthebest560 Ай бұрын
I've noticed since the new patch when I'm running in the map the movement seems slightly better but i still notice movement stutter in vernworth and other cities but in boss battles like the Griffin when he does that wind thing with his wings that the grass and wind seem to move at 60
@solidrobb5522
@solidrobb5522 Ай бұрын
Why is this patch not available to me? I search for new updates but says I have the latest. The 120hz mode is not in my settings menu.
@GioGrimaldi
@GioGrimaldi 26 күн бұрын
Try switching off and on your Internet on the ps5 and see if Dd2 has gotten an update. Sometimes that worked for me in regards to missing updates on games.
@speedex_sama
@speedex_sama Ай бұрын
At least hope PS6 will run it on 60fps
@TheABElia
@TheABElia Ай бұрын
What makes you say that? We all thought(when they were announced) that every PS5/Series-X game would run at 60fps, no problem. How wrong we were to assume… EDIT: My bad. You did say “hope”
@LordCrimson78
@LordCrimson78 Ай бұрын
Do you hear yourself? 2028?
@jeremyweekly346
@jeremyweekly346 Ай бұрын
PS60
@DarkReturns1
@DarkReturns1 Ай бұрын
​@@TheABElianobody thought that, unless you're really young or something. The PlayStation 18 will still have 30fps games, it's the devs choice.
@XxKidnoffxX
@XxKidnoffxX Ай бұрын
@@DarkReturns1 30 FPS yes, but a 64k resolution...
@gnomekingclive
@gnomekingclive Ай бұрын
I was so hyped for this game and i was 100% going to buy it when it came out but then i heard about the performance and denuvo(PC) and it went to 0%. Maybe some day it will be buyable.
@SirBing96
@SirBing96 24 күн бұрын
What about PC? What has the performance been as of late? I've been wanting to do NG+ to work on remaining classes but frames were not the best my first time around.
@djayjp
@djayjp Ай бұрын
1:40 Actually it instead looks like variable rate shading on SX.
@skydivin4ng3l
@skydivin4ng3l Ай бұрын
So the checkerboard issue, will it ever be fixed? What do u think does it cause?
@Lloyal23
@Lloyal23 Ай бұрын
Thanks Oliver for the work. Some feedback: it’d be great in the conclusion to hear your recommended way to play. You mentioned PS5 in VRR but questions I have are: should I use the 30fps cap? Should I use RT or not? I know these are subjective but would be nice to know what you’d recommend.
@GrumpyGer
@GrumpyGer 5 күн бұрын
I was wondering if anyone can help me identify this issue. I bought Dragons Dogma 2 on PS5 and all of a sudden tonight when trying it I get this weird ghost like grid of tiny squares that are faintly over my screen. Almost like looking through a mesh. Does anyone know what that is? It is an LG 55inch Nano I have had since 2021. I noticed the effect a little for the first time on red dead remastered when turning the camera on grass areas. Tonight it was the whole screen. Is the TV broken and shoukd be replaced or is it the game. As with general TV content and the test screens I can't see the issue. Any help would be most welcome.
@boogaboom
@boogaboom Ай бұрын
Hi guys, quick question. Will you do a technical analysis of Beyond Good and Evil 25th Anniversary? I'm interested in it but since remasters aren't always perfect I'm waiting to see some technical comparison videos
@ChrisRPdrummer
@ChrisRPdrummer Ай бұрын
What is this thumbnail? AI generated dragon that has nothing to do with the game? Why!?
Ай бұрын
I'm just glad that the patch that dropped before this one on PC solved the missing ground texture issues that some GPUs were experiencing.
@andyward8430
@andyward8430 Ай бұрын
Did they fix the checkerboard bug yet on Xbox?
@RockingAssassin
@RockingAssassin 29 күн бұрын
Can u guys plz boost the higher pitches so that the audio(VO) isn't so muted and deep. It literally gets drowned by the AC noise(or any slightly higher pitch sound). It's impossible to watch ur vdos on speaker for this issue. I know he has a deep tone...but u can boost the pitch little bit in post.
@markwilson832
@markwilson832 27 күн бұрын
As long as 30fps doesn't bother you (doesn't bother me at all) it runs pretty good. On PS5, locked at 30fps, ray tracing on and motion blur off. The graphics are very nice with ray tracing on and feels good at 30fps. It's a shame it can't run a stable 60 fps though. I want to mention that I tried variable fps and ray tracing off. It was unstable and choppy in areas and smooth in some other areas. I also don't have a tv with vrr support or 120hz. I have a basic 60hz walmart 4k tv. Hope this helps someone!
@maineman5757
@maineman5757 Ай бұрын
This game looks like absolute doodoo water on my PS5. The blurry ghosting or whatever is happening is hurting my eyes and making my head hurt! Wtf Capcom
@SirSomnolent
@SirSomnolent Ай бұрын
Would have been interesting to see PC all core workload during low framerate times though they're going to need to show some attention QA testing against proton before it's relevant to me.
@FatToDaCat
@FatToDaCat Ай бұрын
Honestly these performance patches are nice, but this game desperately needs a hard mode or better enemy level scaling. The fact that you become a God by level 30 is such a bummer. I wanna build my character and party, then push their skills to the limit. The combat is so fun, but the fights become too short to early
@coreypasternak9435
@coreypasternak9435 Ай бұрын
They really really need to make there engine better or use a different engine for capcoms big open world games like I can see Monster Hunter Wilds probably have the same issues like DD2 with the RE engine I just still dont think it does well with open worlds and it shows because resident evil games run amazing thats obviously because there not open world there linear but then you get DD2 which is open world and has lots of technical issues so its definitely still the engines fault
@ivofixzone6410
@ivofixzone6410 Ай бұрын
LOL a whole 4 FPS gain - this is what happens when you pay for broken AAA games. You'll get the same response from game devs.
@Novachrono96
@Novachrono96 8 күн бұрын
So with 120Hz + VRR, we can reach the 60 fps on ps5 ?
@NicoleJohnson-si1fh
@NicoleJohnson-si1fh Ай бұрын
I love how you address this topic with such honesty.
@thanksbetotap
@thanksbetotap Ай бұрын
It’s a good start, but please keep making improvements, Capcom!
@MentalElfAmbassador
@MentalElfAmbassador Ай бұрын
A low point for Capcom. Even PC stutter race can't run in. Unacceptable.
@Ioganstone
@Ioganstone Ай бұрын
Are we defining the PC as stuttering bc of one game
@urmomma2688
@urmomma2688 Ай бұрын
@@Ioganstone pc is plagued by shader comp stutters in quite a few games because of non fixed hardware
@Ioganstone
@Ioganstone Ай бұрын
@@urmomma2688 A word to the wise in DF in this tech paradigm is never blame fixed hardware. In DF 169 they brought up though Sony's the best, what Xbox can do (and thus PC) concerning wavelets. The bottom line is low settings are nice enough that you should never ship a $70 game with stutter.
@nintendo1889x
@nintendo1889x Ай бұрын
@@urmomma2688 Only because developers are too bloody inept to optimize games
@urmomma2688
@urmomma2688 Ай бұрын
@@nintendo1889x nobody is arguing pc is underpowered
@GhostGamer799
@GhostGamer799 Ай бұрын
So they didn't fix anything nor make it run 60fps stable
@highdefinitiongrapes4815
@highdefinitiongrapes4815 Ай бұрын
Why isn’t there just a resolution option yet? Let me play at 1080p
@RealJeffTidwell
@RealJeffTidwell Ай бұрын
I really wish developers were more willing to put in these “scorched earth” performance options. Resolution/etc hits for locked performance.
@gavinderulo12
@gavinderulo12 Ай бұрын
Because that wouldn't change the fact that it's CPU bound.
@gavinderulo12
@gavinderulo12 Ай бұрын
@@RealJeffTidwell wouldn't make a difference my guy since the cpu is the issue and changing the resolution doesn't help.
@RealJeffTidwell
@RealJeffTidwell Ай бұрын
@@gavinderulo12 General statement, My Dude. Not talking about DD2
@juanignacioarriagadawurth8527
@juanignacioarriagadawurth8527 Ай бұрын
Series X is a bit more powerful than the ps5 yet still lacking on performance in some games, they have to focus primarily on the series X and not on the series S, it’s making the series X not reach its full potential
@mattlandry
@mattlandry Ай бұрын
At least with the improved VRR+LFC on PS5 might make it playable now
@JamesMarshall13
@JamesMarshall13 Ай бұрын
I always wanted to see a revisit to FFVII Rebirth, to know what you guys think about the 60 fps mode.
@frankynakamoto2308
@frankynakamoto2308 Ай бұрын
An FSR3.1 update for consoles be nice with lower resolution upscale to 1440p at a lock 40FPS be ideal with 120hz.
@star_str3m63
@star_str3m63 Ай бұрын
A great game that performs so poorly. A true shame, because I really do love DD2.
@MisterReen
@MisterReen Ай бұрын
Is the ps5 now capable of low framerate compensation? Can remember the discussion around it where it wasn’t supported on a system level and needed to be implemented for each game individually like Insomniac did with their games.
@TheUAProdigy
@TheUAProdigy Ай бұрын
No, none of the consoles are. The Ps5 have VRR between 48-120hz. Xbox has a greater range but it isn't much better and noone ever even uses it so that sucks for us.
@retmania
@retmania Ай бұрын
Will you guys review The First Descendant?
@paulooliveiracastro
@paulooliveiracastro Ай бұрын
With a competent fps cap, this game would be rather OK. I'd like to see a 40fps cap as well.
@soluciones11s.a.s81
@soluciones11s.a.s81 24 күн бұрын
I finished this game on the Xbox series x and the overall experience was greater. Stop bitching about fps, those who said this game is unplayable don’t know the true meaning of that term.
@captainthunderbolt7541
@captainthunderbolt7541 Ай бұрын
Capcom's checkerboarding or 'interlacing' as they call it is getting to be a problem. It used to be good, but it has been a problem here, and it was also a problem for RE4. I don't think it plays nicely with the current Xbox machines.
@BrokenArrowX
@BrokenArrowX Ай бұрын
Can you guys do an updated tech review of Final Fantasy 14? It just received a graphical upgrade in the latest expansion featuring DLSS2 and FSR implementation, would be interesting.
@thanksbetotap
@thanksbetotap Ай бұрын
Try already said in his last video on FF14 that he’d be doing that for DF as well.
@Shenmue79
@Shenmue79 Ай бұрын
Okay, will need to wait for another patch to see if the performances will be inproved, it is a no go for me right know (the actual demo is barely playable on my screen). I know it is soon, but i am really concerned about Monster Hunter Wilds, i will definitively not buy it if it runs like this in consoles.
@max_blackened
@max_blackened Ай бұрын
What about PC?
@TheCrewExpendable
@TheCrewExpendable Ай бұрын
So wait, are graphics set to low when the video indicates RT is off, or are they set to high when RT is off? I would assume low graphics would also affect things like texture and rendering resolution.
@farat542
@farat542 Ай бұрын
Nah, that's just a quick option for RT + Blur (High) or no RT and no blur (Low)
@ivanbalsante8322
@ivanbalsante8322 Ай бұрын
It affects, the game runs at 50-60 fps in this setting, I couldn't believe they released this video without realizing this.
@farat542
@farat542 Ай бұрын
@@ivanbalsante8322 I felt it kinda boosted the fps in town but wasnt sure. I have no way to check.
@corywashburn
@corywashburn Ай бұрын
What about PC? Also, just a heads up, you used the word "equivocal" when you meant to say "equivalent" in the conclusion.
@JustChillinOnThe5thFloor
@JustChillinOnThe5thFloor Ай бұрын
No PC update information? Aight cool...
@L-quepe
@L-quepe Ай бұрын
Did you watch till the end?
@yourlocalhuman3526
@yourlocalhuman3526 Ай бұрын
​@@L-quepethe chapters of the video don't mention PC so can you blame anyone?
@realscrumpus
@realscrumpus Ай бұрын
@@yourlocalhuman3526it's called watching the whole video? 💀
@yourlocalhuman3526
@yourlocalhuman3526 Ай бұрын
@@realscrumpus people read the title to find out information about the video. People also read the chapter headings to also find information about the video. It's to save time and find exact information that they're seeking. I'm sure you've come across such a concept. I know you've got a lot of time on your hands 🙏🏾
@690Dragonx
@690Dragonx Ай бұрын
it runs pretty well since last update, i get 4K native solid 80FPS Raytracing in Vermond cities, no stutter lag on 7800x3d/6950xt, imo the games still look better without RT
@senorsnipey1595
@senorsnipey1595 Ай бұрын
Another win for PS5. Man the S needs to just stop existing tbh
@luisguerreiro8045
@luisguerreiro8045 Ай бұрын
Please let us know when it's console only if possible, sometimes I watch but today I wasn't actually interested in hearing about that but the title made it look like it was gonna be a broad talk including pc, thankfully the timestamps remain as flawless as ever so I knew to just stop the video
@Sellout1738
@Sellout1738 Ай бұрын
Where's the PC coverage?
@JKSmith-qs2ii
@JKSmith-qs2ii Ай бұрын
I guess I'll get it on PS6, secondhand.
@rickysargulesh1053
@rickysargulesh1053 Ай бұрын
I can't believe they still haven't fixed the checkerboarding. Unbelievable how incompetent they are.
@MackDaddyVic
@MackDaddyVic Ай бұрын
When are we gonna get 60fps.
@RohitKumar-dq8fb
@RohitKumar-dq8fb Ай бұрын
Any improvements for the PC version ???!?!?
@davisorle
@davisorle Ай бұрын
Played about 200 hours of it on the Series X with RT on and with VRR ofc. Other than when it would break down for a couple seconds entering main town, the game played and looked amazing. Thankfully the checkerboarding bug wasn't all that noticeable, which scared me from your initial video on here. Amazing game.
@TheDarkDogmaticDragonArisen
@TheDarkDogmaticDragonArisen Ай бұрын
Exactly! Same here; Series X, HMDI 2 cable and a TV that can take it, optimised settings for Xbox to play with HDR. Only box I've not got ticked is 120Hz, my TV should be able too but started refusing to a year or so ago, but that's not been a problem 🤷🏻‍♂️ That said, I know the majority of people of Discord are either PC or PS5, PC seems to have a lot of complaints about crashing, and I don't know what it's like on PS5, I only use mine for exclusives
@elcourier
@elcourier Ай бұрын
I didn’t play this game yet but can say the same about elden ring. VRR does make every game super smooth on the Series X
@JRPGGUY
@JRPGGUY Ай бұрын
Frame generation helps so much
@Radek494
@Radek494 Ай бұрын
FSR 3 frame gen could work on consoles but Capcom doesn't give a damn.
@GoodMenstruationAttitude
@GoodMenstruationAttitude 25 күн бұрын
Motion blur is always a nice feature to have toggleable by itself, because motion blur always looks like ass.
@ASTIGINGTUBE
@ASTIGINGTUBE Ай бұрын
Finally an update video for PS5
@drinkz8015
@drinkz8015 5 күн бұрын
Smooth 60 FPS or out. What's the point of nice graphics if its 30 FPS?
@aliwel
@aliwel Ай бұрын
So unless you have a compatible vrr monitor your screwed.
@julianorozaa
@julianorozaa Ай бұрын
Oliver seems like he's falling asleep lol
@xdregon25x55
@xdregon25x55 Ай бұрын
How is the ps5 more powerful in cpu bound places? Doesnt the xbox have a better cpu aswell? I dont understand this.
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 Ай бұрын
PS5 is a more streamlined and efficient architecture.
@mikoajzych2623
@mikoajzych2623 Ай бұрын
Not buying this for less than 20 dollars,it’s a joke what people are pulling off with day one releases rn,the patches comes slowly and there is no reason for me to buy those damn games.
@LN.2233
@LN.2233 Ай бұрын
......The Dogma rises.
@lyndongaming
@lyndongaming Ай бұрын
Also testing this. Excited for more updates but I wish this would have been present from the start. For now my experience has been widely improved by installing the DLSS Enabler Frame Gen mod (for my rtx 3000 GPU) that essentially doubles the frame rates and that mostly navigates around the CPU issue that plagues this game. I play with a controller so I don't really notice a change in the games responsiveness. There are still drops and the games till looks like 'shit' (i dont know why they say its one of the best looking games of the year, for me its far from it) , but at least it isn't very sluggish like it used to
@ivofixzone6410
@ivofixzone6410 Ай бұрын
"One of the best looking games of the year" - Yeah, especially when NPCs pop in front of your face 😂
@DigitalFoundry
@DigitalFoundry Ай бұрын
That’s Oliver!
@ivofixzone6410
@ivofixzone6410 25 күн бұрын
@@DigitalFoundry 😄 We'll call him classic Oliver
@ItJustWorksPodcast
@ItJustWorksPodcast Ай бұрын
I played on my Series x for atleast 4 hours with the new update and I’ve noticed some great changes immediately with the quality, maybe I was just oblivious in my original playthrough
@fenixa2z936
@fenixa2z936 Ай бұрын
Holding off on these games until I get my hands on a PS5 Pro. Tons of backlog anyway.
@maurocapitano
@maurocapitano Ай бұрын
The Ps5 pro has not been announced. Forget about these useless mid-gen models
@definer0
@definer0 Ай бұрын
enjoy your 10% higher CPU clockspeed
@Archangel96
@Archangel96 Ай бұрын
No pc?
@BryceCzirr-jz7ju
@BryceCzirr-jz7ju Ай бұрын
The FIrst Descent just dropped and uses UE5 and shits on this visually. So there goes that "one of the best looking games of the year"
@ramonosuke
@ramonosuke Ай бұрын
Baked in/Forced RT has to be one of the dumbest ideas ever for CONSOLE games.
@user-lh1wr9sr8m
@user-lh1wr9sr8m Ай бұрын
wow, now finally Drongo's Dogmom II will almost be playable once Capcom lets the devs give us the finished game for the low low price of 2 to 3 dlcs ...! I'm kidding(mostly), of course it is good that they are actually patching this up because it was an egregious launch. The upscaling looks a lot better on PC now, too, and FG is dev implemented & not causing repeatable crashing for some hardware like the mod was.
@steel5897
@steel5897 Ай бұрын
Frame gen support is huge news, damn. Thanks for letting me know, since DF didn't bother in this video lol
@neorickio
@neorickio Ай бұрын
At its peak, it doesn't look nearly as good as Horizon FW at 60 fps, so....I really don't understand what's going on with this one. 30fps with frame pacing issues is a joke.
@johnshawdocherty7594
@johnshawdocherty7594 23 күн бұрын
I'm still getting 50.FPS even with 120 switched on with LGC1dont get it ever other game on PS5 hits around 90-100 or so
@NegativSpace-pd6cz
@NegativSpace-pd6cz 26 күн бұрын
The answer is no for PS5. Stuttering is still present wherever you go pretty much. It struggles to even reach 30fps and drops to about 15fps regularly when exploring the city. I finally bit the bullet and sold my disc copy.
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 Ай бұрын
I’ve never played a worse optimised game on my PS5. It’s atrocious.
@TheRy_K_S
@TheRy_K_S Ай бұрын
Why can i get over 100fps on this game on my laptop on hight settings? If people are complaining about the fps on this game?
@dr.loomis4221
@dr.loomis4221 Ай бұрын
This game uses Z buffer frame interpolation on an XN code path in 2024...let that sink in
@krucible9369
@krucible9369 Ай бұрын
At certain points throughout the open world DD2 looks absolutely beautiful.. other times my performance tanks in town and I feel like I’m playing a PS2 game
@martinivanov1319
@martinivanov1319 Ай бұрын
no pc? the only platform that matters?
@VeerMaratha
@VeerMaratha Ай бұрын
This game need Frame Gen mod.
@georgetrentos2094
@georgetrentos2094 Ай бұрын
They officially added Frame Gen in the previous patch but it's for PC only. The Frame Gen mod was the only way I could get 60fps in towns.
@daanyal6266
@daanyal6266 Ай бұрын
At frame rates this low it would still feel unstable, look much better yes and as we've seen with Immortals of Aveum it works, but still definitely wouldnt be a saving grace
@hueypautonoman
@hueypautonoman Ай бұрын
​@georgetrentos2094 They only added DLSS frame gen, which is only for 4000 series Nvidia cards, right? Despite having FSR 3, they didn't add frame gen.
@fraktux
@fraktux Ай бұрын
I'm getting 60fps on PS5 with the 120hz output, no ray tracing and low graphics quality. Graphics are ok but smoother performance is the way to play for me.
@gavinderulo12
@gavinderulo12 Ай бұрын
So are you suggesting they are making up numbers in the video?
@zyllergaming
@zyllergaming Ай бұрын
Same! LG OLED 120hz with VRR it runs smoothly now at 60fps or higher. All these complaining are just broke af to afford a decent display.
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