Drake vs Kendrick Hot Takes..

[@huesoftheheart139]

That 3hr video felt like a legitimate hip hop documentary which is amazing

[@maruwapofilms815]

Frr I was gathering knowledge

[@salamandress]

Yeah when you take into account that he basically covers a bit of everything starting with the origins of hip hop, it's not bloated at all. I probably watched it over the course of 5 or 6 sittings but I was never bored.

[@knockitoffsam]

I’ve watched it serveral times

[@TheLizardofOzzz]

Folks saying people are “milking” the beef is getting to the same levels as calling everything “mid”. Two of the biggest rappers of our time got into a generational beef thats been brewing for over a decade and has multiple layers of cultural significance, of course we’re still gonna be talking about it months after it’s over. People still use “ether” 20+ years after when talking about humiliating someone😂

[@dangerousd1312]

it’s that ADHD attention span not letting people pay attention to a topic for more than a week lmao

[@user-nn7ct3hk7c]

It’s funny too because they milked the fuck out the meek and drake beef. Now that it’s their fave getting the belt they’re mad 😂

[@paddymcnaney]

@@user-nn7ct3hk7c Tbf most of the people who were commenting online about rap beefs in 2015 aren't the same people who are in 2024

[@user-nn7ct3hk7c]

@@paddymcnaneyYeah there’s definitely a lot more kids online these days, but drake himself did an SNL sketch using back to back. Drake milked tf out of the beef so Kendrick and his fans have every right to

[@paddymcnaney]

@@user-nn7ct3hk7c nobody should really give a fuck on either side lmao. enjoy the music and whatnot but stop caring so much about people who don't know you

[@tavmansn1122]

I know it's been said, but shawn constantly beefing with his chat is one of the best things about this channel.

[@iluvdissheet]

Its kinda sad yall feel that way.... Shawn has really good points that get lost arguing with the chat. Q: do tou want boys or girls? S: i want a super strong baby 😵‍💫

[@Whitejunez]

​@@iluvdissheetpov... Shawn always want to be on the Good side of history

[@KingKarma300]

​@@iluvdissheet you need some siblings to understand the energy here

[@skeenwynno5437]

@@KingKarma300nah fr it’s adversarial love that’s all lol

[@Fil-A.sauc3r]

It's kind of childish tbh​@@KingKarma300

[@nick_stefanie]

For everybody saying FD is milking the beef, he had promised the video essay about the beef DURING the beef, but since his channel is literally about discussing the culture and black media, he wanted to be extra detailed about why this beef is so big for hip hop. So it took him more than one month to write the video essay, record and edit (with youtube constantly demonitizing and them having to figure it out).

[@Yourabsyx7]

He has a lot of good points in the original video but some of it just comes off as him having a bias against Drake which he clearly does for years now.

[@paigew6707]

@@Yourabsyx7well, Drake sucks so the inherent bias against him is justified.

[@chillyoil528]

​@ASMRblack aight man believe what you wanna

[@alientestes8331]

@@Yourabsyx7idk why you say that like he tried to hide it lmaooo. He still went into detail about why that bias exists

[@Yourabsyx7]

@@alientestes8331 because while I thought he had good points for some takes some of it felt very forced and overblown

[@Mro637]

I disagree when he says that Kendrick didn’t have anything to lose. He actually had a lot to lose, WAY MORE than Drake considering how highly he’s viewed and respected in the hip-hop community by the goats, and with everything he has accomplished, being passed the torch, and the fact that he has maintained a clean image unlike Drake. It would’ve been embarrassing for him to lose to someone like Drake who’s not even considered to be part of the culture.

[@ScoreBoredHeathen]

When the media kept saying it was an “un-win-able” battle for Drake, it actually felt the opposite for Kendrick. There would be no excuses for Dot, but we’ve seen endless excuses for Aubrey. I think Kendrick has so much cultural currency it would’ve been devastating for the culture of hip-hop/rap if Kendrick lost.

[@Mro637]

@@ScoreBoredHeathen All facts man. It really would’ve been so devastating for hip-hop in general. I don’t think he would recover considering how much he hates Drake

[@3001zz]

This is all facts

[@afrosamourai400]

people forget how nervous dot fans were after push ups when he didn't answer for like 3 weeks and drake stans were trolling like bishes lol of course kendrick had more to lose, drake already lost to pusha and it had no consequences..

[@masilomoshesh1475]

He had more to lose because of how pre meditated it was.

[@bigmansam9968]

I was finna say aint no way Shawn was finna watch the entirety of FDs original video on stream cause that shit longer than Lord of the Rings 💀

[@dashiamason8136]

i think he did sometime last week

[@clementinelives]

😂😂

[@Illmare]

That video got me through a whole work day lmao

[@daniel23_]

grown man talking about a rap beef for 3 hours just screams jobless, and idgaf if this is his job. still a loser.

[@see3deezz]

Still 54 mins tho lmao 😅

[@DG-gx8pn]

There was a comment on the FD vid that said something along the lines of “Yea Drake has songs for every moment of your life, but so does a soulless Hallmark card.”

[@kmc1994]

Good one

[@PUNKISTCHUY]

That's insane but depressingly true

[@QuaintTermite]

Only take of this vid I didn’t like it’s such a bad take from an informative view

[@mbealhighjump]

I haven’t heard anyone mention this, but Kendrick’s “LeBron/Curry Keep the family away” bars aren’t actually about PDFilia. They’re actually more about how Drake is a groomer with no sexual discipline. Referencing Wayne & Tammy along with Drake’s obsession with sleeping with his “friends” women it’s clear he has no boundaries. Kendrick is letting them know what if they continue to be friends with Drake he will build a relationship with their daughters & the day they turn technically legal he’ll be there to pounce. PDFilia is terrible but what Drake does is just as insidious. It’s so such a consistently premeditated behavior.

[@JonathanPerez-sh8ky]

Damn.

[@alldailyfatherhood]

Great take. I agree

[@via2014]

He’s THAT “uncle” who was always around and as soon as a girl turns 17, he starts talking greasy, “you know I’m not REALLY your uncle, right”🤢

[@goreyfantod5213]

Yeah, it's a shame that the word, "groomer," got thrown around so casually & watered down. Aubrey fits the definition perfectly and he's been doing it in plain sight.

[@BossUpReviews]

He said anyone who embodies they love for there kids keep the family away … so pdf file

[@sincerely__jay]

Chatter: shawn you want a boy or a girl Shawn:low-key, A mutant with super powers 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@everia_games]

Yeah me too

[@ideozublake8036]

i hear it

[@SloppyMagician]

He was tryna dodge answering that question so bad 😭

[@kennethfocarino7075]

People getting of FD for the 3 hr vid plus the Signifier cut, but that’s less FDs fault than it is everyone else’s. FDs video is THE DEFINITIVE beef doc, there isn’t one better, not even remotely close. It’s an amazing piece of work.

[@younghoodie6477]

It’s a good video…however it is like the normie version of the beef. Which is fine, but “what’s the dirt?” Breakdowns of the specific songs dive deeper into the history and meanings of the songs. And there’s some sub Reddits that are related to the beef🤫

[@frameandi]

I feel like Jawn or Bill had a better video, by the time I FD dropped, I was already over this beef/opine. I fw FD on his political stances but his rap takes are usually questionable. I never been like i need to get the "Canbibus/Childish Gambimo" stan's take on anything hip hop tbh

[@akiret3113]

@@frameandi 3 million views on a 3+ hour video suggests you're not the norm. I can't believe that many people would watch a 3+ hour video so long after the beef. But they have (including myself).

[@justthetwoofus.]

@@younghoodie6477I don’t disagree. I really liked the video, but die hards that tuned into the beef religiously won’t get a TON out of it. For someone that isn’t necessarily as familiar with what happened and the ramifications of the beef tho, like the average person tbf, it’s basically as good as it gets.

[@frameandi]

@@akiret3113 oh i know i'm not the norm, and not to take anything away from FD's stuff related to hip hop/music and what he does. He is great for entry level heads getting into the subject/topic. I don't think a lot of people are really into music or hip hop in general that are also overtly political, which is ironic, considering so much rap is inherently political and radical left.

[@natwixterthan18]

In response to the prep time Kendrick took to write the songs, I don't know if he had anything written. But, if you listen to his music and his interviews, Kendrick is a writer, he's a reader. He seems like the type that thinks and overthinks. He's even said that when he has an idea he needs to write them down. We all listened to the original version of Element with all the disses. I think that over the years, he's definitely been watching Drake, hearing what he's been doing and keeping a mind note of it just in case he needs to use it. And I'm only saying that as someone who is similar. Yeah I'm on my journey and it may seem like I forgot, but I never forget the shit someone does to me. It's not purposeful, but that's just my personality. Most artistic people who create need to get out their feelings through their art, so I wouldn't be surprised if Kendrick was upset one day and wrote a song about drake or recorded something. Just to get it out of his system lol then combined those thoughts with the new stuff he wrote for the beef.

[@afrosamourai400]

he's also a strategist every move he makes is calculated so he certainly had like 10 disses or 10 ideas of disses prepared to fight back, this man had his 4 albums run in mind when he started rapping

[@kenmoops7547]

People saying FD is milking the beef: 1. Never watched the video, it's much deeper than the beef itself. 2. He's been working on it for months, it's not a clout chasing video, he's was a literal teacher, social worker, and I'm also pretty sure he has a degree (maybe book as well? don't quote me on that) in psychology. He's more than qualified, as a certified oldhead, to talk and dissect the beef. If you have the free time, watch the video in chunks and absorb the masterfully edited and written video.

[@waynewayne8419]

It’s never this deep

[@kenmoops7547]

​@waynewayne8419 Clearly, it is, if so many people resonate with the messaging and are debating the topic.

[@waynewayne8419]

@@kenmoops7547 no they aren’t, you guys are doing too much.

[@leiannb.wrytes8893]

@@waynewayne8419Perhaps not to you.

[@brandone869]

Tyler brought Drake out years ago.., and just recently was a major guest at the Pop Out, time changes prospectives

[@wahoo4uva]

*perspectives

[@DemBlox]

he’s also a west coast rapper and yg was there at the pop out too but has songs with drake also

[@kbreezy1581]

I don't think that was Tyler picking sides. The pop out was more of a west coast thing so a spot was always available for him. Also, Tyler always liked both drake and Kendrick. He literally praised Mr morale when It came out

[@amysel]

tbf that was before CLB, I doubt he really fucks with anything he dropped since

[@vitorfarias1438]

I don't know if it's really a diss but in Lumberjack Tyler says "I hit Drizzy and told him I had a millie for em" (2021)

[@frostyfrenchtoast]

Shawn should binge FD’s entire KZbin channel 😹😹

[@Leahcimmichael]

Even the FGC Signifier arc

[@takatotakasui8307]

That would be great

[@klatonb]

Awaken the yns

[@AhmadAneeq]

That’s longer than lord of the rings and game of thrones combined

[@frostyfrenchtoast]

@@Leahcimmichael especially the FGC Signifier arc

[@PotpourriT]

I love FD down but I HELLA disagree to an extent with that last point lol I feel like Dot has always been with the smoke and has just been waiting for someone to hit back. He been tryna get at Drake since Control and the BET cypher. This was never about finding a “right time”, I think he was just waiting until he accepted fully. To almost frame it as if Kendrick was scared or had to wait and couldn’t have attacked Drake at any other point is a little disingenuous and disregards all the other times Kendrick has literally outright put himself in the position to be ready to squabble with him or anyone in the past Great vid!

[@jfraz1992]

It took them ten years to squabble

[@PotpourriT]

@@jfraz1992 yea but that was really only because drake waited 10 years to directly respond like with Push Ups Kendrick been ready and asking for it

[@PotpourriT]

Pause

[@Z4NKA1]

it was very obviously timed, and that wasnt his entire point

[@DesignzRUs]

This cap. Drake clearly dissed dot multiple times after control. They even asked Dot did he want to battle Drake on a radio show and he said no

[@BudJr]

There are STILL delusional people who think Drake won😂

[@kagomabuse]

All over the world even in Botswana

[@sunnywestside4210]

just sad lmao. some can’t be saved 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@BudJr]

@@sunnywestside4210 It’s sad and confusing to me. Like did Drake bring all of Canada together and have an epic show celebrating Canadian culture and music that I never heard about?

[@valvods9793]

not tryna say he won but youre comparing a city to an entire country 💀

[@BudJr]

@@valvods9793 You’re right. But Drake Stan’s keep insisting he won. I’d just like some evidence.

[@AlexCereal]

I think people forgot that back and forth rap beefs used to go on for YEARS and diss tracks weren’t dropped in a matter of days of one already being released

[@MikeLeePapi]

I would love a Shawn, FD collab. Talk about anything honestly

[@ENT8801]

Drake being exposed as a groomer and weirdo is something i never expected. Theres literal proof of him being weird and associating with people that have weird relationships with kids. Its insane and his music is not the same

[@miles2176]

@ENT8801 but that's not proof because if it was he would've been arrested

[@ENT8801]

@@miles2176 the heart part 6 comment😅

[@Frank-nz1wr]

Exposed as a groomer is a reach, conversations between adults and children should never be that close it’s true, but he’s obviously not waiting for them to turn 18 to hit or date or whatever. I haven’t kept up with everything but if he had legitimate cases of grooming he would be under at least investigation

[@miles2176]

@ENT8801 I mean it's true tho but aren't kendrick fans the ones who think it's OK to cheat on your wife just because you admitted to doing so On a rap song ?

[@solomonpnq]

@@ENT8801 he a rage baiter/drake capper😹

[@labnawd6482]

This man have his whole heart and passion to this video just for somebody to say he’s milking it while doing a less thoughtful version.

[@Fanrose2475]

Exactly there's this kid called Derapy who made a 4 hour video where he is literally just reacting to interviews and rereading them. THAT'S milking the beef. Matter fact his entire videos about drake n ken were him reading interpretations off of Genius calling it "some research I was doing" like dawg, this is trash

[@viewfromtheloge]

FD tombstoned Drake 😂

[@MASTERPIECEFROMGOD]

And showed up to the grave to shoot what was left in the chamber 😂😂😂

[@asmodeusguys4472]

​@redeyearchive but before that, he paraded the body around for the WHOLE world to see

[@hassansalad7246]

Boy y’all corny asf 😂😂😂

[@PoddyMouthPod]

Yo Fam, we did the pod with FD, crazy to see you react to something we were apart of. Big Fan

[@sombredoesntexist]

Love ur vids with fd

[@camdatboi]

Shawn finna give his kid compound v😭

[@RenaAnn-qf2wh]

Bro want a Powerpuff Girl or a new mutant 😂

[@bedbug2002]

I've been saying it for years. Drake is the McDonald's of rap music. He's good enough for everyone to enjoy with minimal complaints but he ain't no cook out burger, he isn't something that's been crafted and molded he's just something quick and digestible.

[@_NoHandle_]

FD believes Kendrick had prerecorded tracks but chose to omit the fact that Drake possibly had prerecorded tracks as well (we heard the beginning of "Family Matters" at the end of "Push Ups"). If he's going to believe that Kendrick had songs, verses, or whatever prerecorded, then he'll have to assume the same for Drake. After making these assumptions, you get to the point where FD is criticizing Kendrick for being better prepared.

[@afrosamourai400]

i mean you don't go against the most selling sucka in the industry without preparing your battle...

[@TehStylishone]

Rap battles shouldn't be prerecorded because then you won't comment on the disses thrown at you. Family Matters responsed to Kdot and Meet the Grahams didn't at all.

[@smoothsavage2870]

Chill on FD bruh. He's likely a bigger Kendrick stan than you. It's ok for him to make points that arent always in Kendrick's favor from time to time. That's called "being objective".

[@InfamousTerry4]

@@smoothsavage2870but FD didn’t have a valid convincing or valid point so you can’t label it as “being objective”

[@nigato57]

It crazy how viewers can see/hear something and fail to comprehend what is seen or said 😭😭😭😭😭

[@champagneauntie]

Just be looking for shit to respond at or argue back with😂

[@B-Chill76]

It may be 3 hours long, but it's rated the best breakdown on the Battle on KZbin. I mean, Tore even had him on his show. Don't hate just shutup and appreciate.

[@Ehh.....]

Seeing a 3rd of his audience not know what KBToys is makes me feel ancient.

[@NessOnigiri]

I hold that Kendrick made 6:16 in LA to clear his conscious. Hearing the Kendrick is the villain theory makes me wonder if he himself knew he'd either be viewed positively or negatively with the next two songs.

[@mightylaser0000]

I feel you two are saying a lot of words to sum this up when it’s easier to say-Drake is an unchecked monopoly business that no one is bussing up.

[@ceelothatmane9421]

you mentioned “why Marvin’s room when you can Marvin gay?”, but ironically that’s what I did when I went through a breakup. Was bumping straight Marvin Gaye cuz it’s real and it hits with authenticity.

[@afrosamourai400]

and it's way better musically than this microwave cheap rnb drake makes

[@AKrg9916]

But who are you to tell someone what resonates with them ?

[@ceelothatmane9421]

@@AKrg9916 what that gotta do w what I said?

[@corbinwoerner7839]

​@@ceelothatmane9421I think they were just confused by the phrasing of your comment. It was said in the video that Marvin Gay would be a much better option than Marvin's Room if you're trying to get in your feelings. You said that's ironic, which is not necessarily false, I guess. It's ironic in the sense he hit the nail on the head as to exactly what you chose to listen to in such a situation. I think the combination of "but" and "ironically" next to each other though implies that you are saying something different to what he said in the video, almost as if you were disagreeing with him. So the response to your comment probably resulted from them thinking you disagreed with the one thing and concluding you must disagree with the other thing (about sean saying "I'm not going to tell someone who's in their feelings and listening to Marvin's Room to turn that sbit off and play Marvin Gay"). Of course, it seems to me, you were just commenting on the humor of doing pretty much exactly what was described, but I think they interpreted incorrectly.

[@Orac11e]

Diet Pedophealia and Pedophealia lite is crazy 🤣

[@Orac11e]

Real

[@solomonpnq]

@@Orac11e why you reassure yourself? lol

[@Orac11e]

@@solomonpnq I saw some real shit and I had to reply

[@kennethfocarino7075]

Pedialyte…

[@Owen-Rich]

​@@kennethfocarino7075 10/10 lmfao

[@kale7209]

“Your girlfriend 85”

[@luckyspurs]

Love the way FD Signifier played the Father Time instrumental under the entire video.

[@sandenson]

Babila put a few different beats. There was Father Time, Count Me Out, Meet the Grahams, Saviour, even Black Boy Fly

[@FullBODYARMORofGODSsON210]

14:13 Diet PDF file or PDF File LIGHT 😅😂. I'M DECEASED😭

[@wrx1th873]

Lite*

[@FullBODYARMORofGODSsON210]

@@wrx1th873 🤔😑

[@soun.slayer]

Pedialyte

[@phillipbell4394]

I think that something that goes under the radar is that Pusha T and Kendrick are probably friends, or at least mutually aligned against Drake. I don’t know the extent to which the “lost media Drake response” is actually real and not just cope, but there is ABSOLUTELY a strong chance that Pusha T had a surgical summer volume II in the clip locked and loaded. One of the most understated talents that Kendrick has has been his ability to collaborate because the dude has an absolutely cracked EQ. There’s no way those two didn’t talk within the 6 years that Story of Adidon came out. If the daughter is 11, then it probably was on volume II. Kendrick has a unique pen, we definitely know he wrote these tracks, but I’m making the assumption that Pusha T shared his notes with Kendrick, and then when paired with a mole that was probably more than enough information to have this be a side hobby throughout his hiatus because, and maybe he does, but are just assuming that he had Jack Antinoff, DJ Mustard, and the Alchemist on speed dial like that? Like that had to be planned and coordinated.

[@keyuantejohnson4373]

Do you think Kendrick and pusha t will release a diss track together against Drake t

[@phillipbell4394]

@@keyuantejohnson4373 I don't think there's really a reason to. I think that Pusha T is probably going to crack a joke or two on his album at Drake's expense though. Especially if Drake's numbers don't hit the same peaks post beef.

[@keyuantejohnson4373]

@@phillipbell4394 i honestly do believe there Will be a not like us remix and I honestly do believe Kendrick will drop more diss tracks against drake

[@LDH777]

Push and Kendrick have always been on good terms. I don't think they necessarily need to share notes, because Donald Glover seems to know shit too. I think a lot of industry people are aware in some capacity of what Drake has been doing.

[@phillipbell4394]

I think something to just mention is that when it comes to the industry, there were a few people (and they might still have issues) that P.Diddy just flat out hated, and I've definitely like kept tabs on that. Like we know he hates Kid Cudi. We know that he got into a fight with J.Cole, and we know it's because he had beef with Kendrick. We know Eminem has always hated Diddy, and JID is featured on Fuel which is the track that takes shots at Diddy, and also Jpeg is Jpeg. Those artists could certainly have their own problems, but at least we know that they weren't in the P.Diddy inner circle, and like that's really just good to know because I like my music reasonably ethically sourced.

[@DG-gx8pn]

41:56 The chat that said FD always blames individualism clearly doesnt really know his content well lol. FD always blames capitalism and patriarchy for a lot of the issues he discusses.

[@JesusGonzalez-ju5mh]

One minute ago is crazy

[@kyol420]

17:00 Shawn the type of dude to say he wants a freak baby.

[@BurnaBurner-w4x]

Point 7 was what I was explaining to my boy today, in full support of kendrick’s deserving win, while loving Drake, his music has been on the decline and he was essentially creatively exhausted coming off FATD which itself spawned a deluxe due to poor reception - regardless of how he frames it. Drake was not prepared and most definitely couldn’t prepare for this plan cos it became evident after Meet the Grahams dropped that Kendrick had a eliminatory strategy in approaching this beef , where no breathing room was given to Drake at all. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@filipnikolic1702]

I always come back to 6:16 in la (song that connects so many dots) where he says “war ready if the world ready to see you bleed”. I mean Kendrick is bigger artist than Pusha, but Drake in 2018 had music world in chokehold so Story of Adidon wouldn’t affect him as much as some thought. Kendrick is very calculated and the timing and everything was literally perfect to not be planned out song by song

[@suavegem0]

WHYD YOU CUT OUT THE PART WHERE HE SPOILS DEATH NOTE. THAT PART WAS SO FUNNY

[@JimiNoFro1]

Bro That Man Ruined Me Lmao. I Had That Show In My Mental Anime List For A Long Time To Watch When I Get The Chance To And He Just Said "Let Me Shorten That List For You"...

[@carltonsimmonsjr.5607]

​@JimiNoFro Death note is such a well-done and deep anime that you'll enjoy it even after spoilers

[@Chrys_Olina]

8 minutes ago is sensual

[@n.a.199]

Why are y’all like this? 😭

[@Gagagag-d1w]

Imma broke bum with no job. How tf did y’all get hired, send advice pls 😭

[@OdeanSmith-y9y]

Send 50 applications everyday

[@iiMoooona]

We’re just like u

[@freshkingdior2351]

​@OdeanSmith-y9y faxxx

[@freshkingdior2351]

​@@OdeanSmith-y9y faxxxx

[@LintSplinter]

@@OdeanSmith-y9yrealest comment possible

[@benjiusofficial]

7:26 Disagree. Kodak Black was on Mr Morale as an object lesson. The last verse of Mother I Sober illustrates this. The question of whether or not we can forgive ourselves the abuses we cause (ala Kendrick's 3rd verse on Reincarnated) or the abuses of another when there's penance being paid. Meanwhile, Drake doesn't pay penance and continues to do these things (assuming he is an abuser) with and without Baka. Baka was used as a device in MTG/NLU to paint Drake as irreverent and continuing his abuse cycle.

[@NopeDont-hg5br]

Shawn sounds like someone who’s never seen a FD video before. Show some respect bro he is for us.

[@connieworroll368]

do people really not see that Drake makes that sassy ahh face in all his photos??

[@emmanuelanozie7252]

Two minutes ago is insane

[@AtobeTanhausser01]

Not Drake hitting the Kevin James in that pic 😭

[@Danny-Tan]

I think Kendrick had the first two verses and hook for Not Like Us ready the same week he wrote Meet The Grahams, I think the 6:16 and Meet The Grahams timeline proved he knew Drake's diss was bout to drop but didn't know all the details of Family Matters, especially since Meet The Grahams and the first two verses of Not Like Us cover basically the same theme, and needed Family Matters to be fully released so the 3rd verse of Not Like Us can be written as a response, I don't think he had Not Like Us locked in the vault or anything, but I think he did plan it during the beef, which is still diabolical but it's probably not as crazy as he had it forever or he wrote it in a day. But to be fair, writing it in a day is still definitely very possible for Kendrick, even thinking back to how Daniel Caesar wrote Violet in 20 minutes, and Post Malone wrote most of Stay randomly singing lyrics over guitar jamming in the studio.

[@l.1586]

Patiently awaiting the upload of you watching FD's 3 hour long video 🫡

[@langschwerts]

not gon happen

[@thepacksurvives71]

no cap that Drake pose at 11:03 reminds me of the Kevin James meme

[@Fog_raw]

Drake unfollowed her once he found out she was over 18

[@wellfedstarvingartist]

1:10 FD doesn't edit his own videos Also, he's a PhD grad minus writing a dissertation, so long winded explanations are normal. Not defending but it's worth mentioning.

[@trashdoge1217]

I thought the kodak black collab on that album made sense especially because kodak himself has a history of being abused which plays into the "hurt people hurt" narrarive of that entire album

[@wuthurer]

What kind of abuse did Dre go through that caused him to assault women the way he did?

[@InfamousTerry4]

@@wuthurerbro wtf are you talking about, he talking about Kodak not Dre💀

[@wuthurer]

@@InfamousTerry4 bro you’re for sure air headed. Who’s “we” here?

[@InfamousTerry4]

@@wuthurer I meant he just mistyped with a w, but point still stands

[@rockkzillatv444]

Yoo Shawn funny asf, I going to always say he needs to do something on stage

[@robonick3607]

47:55 specifically the first verse is very recent to me. “Mustard on the beat ho” to start - mustard didn’t start sending beats to Kendrick until like March 2024, Teezo Touchdown is a very recent figure in the music scene, and the Stockton reference is a bit of a motif for Kendrick, something that he would surely turn to as a shorthand, off the top of his head bar. If anything the last verse is the most compelling argument for being thought out farther ahead of time, being that it was such a history lesson.

[@lyleugleman9799]

but in relation to the last verse, the whole verse flips the “you rappin like you trying to free the slaves” bar off family matters. it’s entirely possible kenny had the idea beforehand but it’s pretty obvious he was responding directly to that. plus the “family matters but the truth of the matter” line at the end of the verse

[@highpol1ce]

"What's wrong with the pose?" DUCKLIPS DRAKE

[@aVoiDense777]

fr like how did he not see how corny that shit is

[@user-nn7ct3hk7c]

16:57 that sounds crazy taken out of context 💀a freak baby is insane

[@shrimpscampin]

😂😂😂 a freak baby that does CRAZY things

[@tythegreatttg]

Litterly a video of drake kissing a 17 year old after he said he don't want to do something illegal...

[@xkhours]

How are hip hop/ rap and rnb dying at the same time? That’s what’s crazy . Drake gets all the credit for globalizing the music but that also means he deserves a lot of the blame for where music is at now

[@CoffeeWater-q9b]

Unc always has the best takes

[@antiembishop07]

FD did his thing with the Drake/KDot doc. His uncensored version is on Nebula goes crazy.

[@simplycvrsive]

Took out death note ending. . . At least he cares about it like that. . .

[@hollaatquad3511]

28:48 if he makes mediocre R&B music why do we hold him to the standard of controlling the sound when there’s other artist that make better music than him? I feel like everyone just wants to point the finger at someone for the way music is going instead of pointing to the consumer because they have control of what they want to listen to.

[@afrosamourai400]

the fact that the consumer is lazy and duumb is litteraly the point lol they like stupid shit

[@Randomdudetoray]

I think most consumers aren’t deep music lovers so they’re just gonna listen to what’s easily found. It’s not Drakes fault and he didn’t intentionally do this, it’s just a result of him being the most popular artist. It’s like food, my friends a foodie I’m not. He’ll look for the most hidden hole in the wall places to go eat, while I have no problem going to what’s already poplur or known in an area. I’m pretty sure I’m missing out on some great food, but I just don’t care enough to go looking

[@gergo2944]

The problem is not only that everything about Drake is fake, it’s his audiance. They don’t know hip hop. I am only 21 years old but I know Wu Tang, Nas, Em, NWA…those are hip hop, Kendrick is hip hop. Drake is just a businessman.

[@curtislewis8801]

Every time I was a video of Shawn on stream bro is arguing with his chat 🤣

[@milkiekittie6659]

LMAOOOOO THE DRAGGING OF THAT PICTURE OF DRAKE IS SO FUNNY

[@HeirWallace]

What ppl aren’t realizing is that the industry is a smaller circle than ppl think. I can promise you, Drake knew about “like that” and possibly the whole “we don’t trust you” album, before it came out. Kendrick heard push ups before it came out. What probably happened is Kendrick took a lot of stuff he was saying on a old diss track to Drake and rewrote and repurposed it into “Meet the grahms”

[@Fanrose2475]

Yeah exactly, Kendrick literally counted them down in 616. Plus, producers and mixers have to receive the songs and ideas hours-months in advance to finish the product. So there was definitely leaks of Like that and Family Matters in circulation

[@DDTJOESTAR]

“I’m everywhere and I’m nowhere” I’m not even mad he got to get that off, I know that felt deserved LOL

[@adrian_lmx1840]

We all know Drake rides the wave of this new artist to stay relevant and I get the hate but in a business perspective I get it. The question is tho him doing that is it worth the hate?

[@NainheddoMEEK]

Not only putting business over the culture, but using the culture is one of numerous reasons to hate Drake.

[@dokdeph]

Every global artist does it. Mike, Bowie, Stevie, Miles, Janet, Jay, Ye, Rihanna, Beyonce, Usher ect. They’ve constantly evolved their sound to match the times. They link up with younger artists and producers to stay connected with current audiences. It’s legit the business model for longevity in music stardom.

[@bigmo3692]

@@NainheddoMEEK numerous? I think the internet has developed a weird hate boner drake ngl

[@adrian_lmx1840]

@@NainheddoMEEK yeah but let’s not act like he’s the only one. Black or white everyone has benefited from other cultures to make money. Yes it can be nasty move but you and I both know ppl like to make money.

[@adrian_lmx1840]

@@bigmo3692 this I agree but it is what it is

[@francois47achan]

JD’s 3hr video is gas tho

[@juicemaneoj]

😭 we need more of this drake hate content from u mr cee its mad funny

[@jourdansarpy4935]

Gilbert Arenas calls Drake a vampire. He feeds off the youth to keep himself sounding fresh and young.

[@YesserSirMrSir]

Kendrick turned heel for the W 😂

[@AustinKelly01]

He made a whole house record and people still say he makes the same music.. you cannot make this up

[@CTNSumar]

Never been this early

[@willdavis3951]

I've never searched drake on my playlist .. but he was on the radio a lot 😂❤🎉

[@frameandi]

Uncs still debating jay/nas lol because that battle was actually close. However, kdot/drake will be forgotten because it was so decisive. Drake is regulated to the ja rule meme realm.

[@lost_times]

Drake is a symptom and, as such, you should fight/oppose it, but he's not *the* problem.

[@tblcyek]

Unc my goat

[@Off_lucci]

the slickest ad placement at the end😂

[@Dytanious]

Yo, that chatter Lazoravalon is the most smooth-brained person I've seen in Shawn's community. There's no way you don't get how Drake's influence water down hip-hop and R n B as a whole. Even if he's not the only reason he's definitely the core of the reason.

[@waynewayne8419]

How is Drake watering down rnb or hip hop. You guys are just mad that your taste is not commercially viable so you’re crashing out. Like I’m sorry that’s how the music industry works. And even then a lot of good rnb is still produced every day. You guys just don’t care to go actually tap in and then blame Drake like he’s holding you back.

[@Dytanious]

@@waynewayne8419 if you want the answer to that question then actually watch the video when FD literally explains it. I’m not gonna waste my time telling you something you don’t wanna hear.

[@waynewayne8419]

@@Dytanious you guys are hilarious. FD doesn’t even listen to RnB yet he’s saying the genre is ruined. You guys lack so much engagement with the art and still wanna make up claims. I’m sorry you thought you could explain rnb to me and that’s actually hilarious. No one who messes with rnb thinks that, it’s just you not wanting to put any work to find new rnb artists

[@Dytanious]

@@waynewayne8419 can you read? I said watered down, not “ruined” like fd said it’s ok to like fast food but the real home cook meal will always be better. You Drake fans are so delusional you just can acknowledge how surface level 80% of his music is.

[@waynewayne8419]

@@Dytanious it’s so annoying to get into an rnb discussion with people who don’t even listen to it like that. Rnb is not watered down anymore Jesus. You and your boy fd keep reiterating this and it’s not true.

[@alexiscortez-e4w]

Bruh Lil Wayne not featuring with drake in a song since classic songs …. Speak louder than words . Wayne knew who drake was and what he would become . 🤷‍♂️

[@trillwill9735]

This man spitting 🔥🔥

[@bignugget613]

i hope he posts the part where he watches the og video. idc if its 5 hours long ive listened to longer

[@617JB]

Has anyone taken into account that the tone of Mr Morale revolved around the idea of being human which is to be inherently flawed. People loved Kodak when he was just makin slaps but as soon as he made a mistake, that he was convicted and served time for, he was judged as if to say he were some kind of saint before. We’ve all had missteps, we’ve all done things we are not proud of and Kendrick himself admitted to the same throughout the album and I think Kodak was a great choice to demonstrate the idea that we can show ourselves, flaws and all, and reform as we continue on through life. Who is anyone to deny any one of us the chance to be and do better. I’m sure the pairing was conscious decision and a good one.

[@afrosamourai400]

everything you said is true but people don't have to pity kodak instead of his victim, and the sucka never ever said sorry!!

[@Randomdudetoray]

We’ve all made mistakes, sure. Sexual assault is more than just a simple mistake though, and many people are unforgiving when it comes to that, and I don’t blame them. That’s why people had a problem with Kodak.

[@samuelmoodley3703]

Saying Drake latched on to ice spice for clout , is the funniest thing I ever heard 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sircartier2723]

He worded it wrong, Drake doesn't need Ice Spice for clout but he wanted to be part of the next big trend. It's what he's done his whole career, when they start blowing up, Drake shows up

[@princessdenise8659]

Relevancy

[@Alwaysbelieve619]

@@sircartier2723literally artist from Beyoncé, Jayz, Kanye to Nicki has done that. Get over it. 100% of the music industry opportunistic. It’s called business. Why are you acting brand new to this?

[@perhaps1094]

@@Alwaysbelieve619 It’s more the fact that drake does it so blatantly and waters down the styles so much His patois and his uk drill faze being the biggest examples

[@lucacippitelli508]

the fucking tangent about the kid was ridiculous, u know shawn was da abt that 😭

[@joshawnthabeast]

It’s still crazy to me how mfs still think drake won this rap battle 😂

[@tyrannosaurushands]

11:05 that's the Kevin James pose 😭😭😭

[@chandlerchase9479]

I feel like Drake has those moments throughout your life cause he’s dropping 1-2 albums every year without taking a break. Even with the decline in quality he’s still a talented artist so I’ll get a couple tracks from him every year that I like.

[@waynewayne8419]

exactlyyyy, i have no idea why people are so concerned with perfect albums, as long as i get a few good songs im good. not to mention its not like kendrick makes flawless albums, plus they can drag on

[@frameandi]

That's that no limit cope

[@stolentoothbrush3492]

​@@waynewayne8419Never seen a fanbase and artist that were made more for each. Drake just wants numbers and the fans want slop. Match made in heaven.

[@kingcharles2606]

​@@stolentoothbrush3492Istg it's like eating McDonald's knowing all the negative health effects and not wanting healthier food because it's not as convenient

[@asmodeusguys4472]

So you're not an album guy huh??? Yeah, drake fans have NO patience or thought put out when listening to music... Show them 1 drake song and you've heard them all.... This is pretentious asl, but PLEASE educate yourself to some ACTUAL music before talking about drake.

[@jalenxclay]

Man oh man, 80’s/90’s group R&B is my SHITTTTTT

[@funkyrumble0455]

5:39 y’all don’t wanna hear him

[@Mogkween]

There were definitely Easter eggs that’s the first two vs to NLU were a response to family matters. A Minorrrrrr = Dave Freeeeeee, “shape the stories how you want”= Drakes ig story about the daughter. He could have added them later , but it’s def possible it was written post Family Matters.

[@waynewayne8419]

Lol what

[@Mogkween]

@@waynewayne8419 he dragged a minor the same way Drake dragged Dave free and alluded to his drakes story denying the daughter. pretty simple and obvious rebuttals.

[@waynewayne8419]

@@Mogkween Naah you guys are actually insane haha

[@Mogkween]

@@waynewayne8419 it’s not insane lol It’s basic rhetoric, composition, and some simple allusion. Which is what I studied at Seattle U, 2011-2015. Rhetoric and composition is the study of the analysis of human language in art form.

[@10eightyprince]

@@Mogkween”Why argue with these clowns when the circus is well at work” K dot Don’t waste your energy bro

[@brucebane04]

Shawn rlly be fighting the chat like bruh u can’t just hit the ban button?!?!😂😂

[@TehStylishone]

Shawn Cee with another good take. Kendrick is independent on PG Lang, so he is big enough to choose who he wants to work with. Also FD saying people were already thinking both sides on this or that Kendrick could be a hypocrite. People were absolutely ignoring those details during this whole thing. He didn't date that model I thought. I am not cosigning any rapper hanging out with any sibling lol. Masego, Lucky Daye, Snoh Allegra, Naomi Sharon, Sir, Her, etc... FD doesnt listen to R&B so he makes no sense. Younger people don't listen to Drake as much as he thinks and they listen to everything

[@huare7946]

If i hear the word 'diabolical' one more time, i will run into traffic 😞

[@CalvinLangatMMA]

17:00 huh?? That was an insane way for him to start the statement 🤣🤣😂

[@benjiusofficial]

2:48 "I saw your DMs" ... excuse me, what? How are people getting ahold of your DMs? Are we publicly sharing our Drake DMs in non-cookie recipe form?

[@naohaotingala6433]

Shawn yapping about his potential child with chat got me crying bro XD

[@ccfffvbbbbbffg1774]

CRAZY WORDING "with chat"