The PROBLEM With White Rappers??

[@FDSignifire]

You gotta come on my new Podcast and chop with me fam I won't stand for this For Your Eyes Only slander lol

[@122jonte]

Im not even a huge j Cole fan but for some reason i agree For Your Eyes Only is a great album. Super hot take for some reason

[@DonInADress]

Yesssss this is the crossover we need

[@Dylan03917]

I never gave Marlon Craft a chance because i had seen too many reaction KZbinrs who love every song and hype up a rapper every time they are white and sound like Em or something. But hearing the track in there made me actually want to check him out

[@neonsamurai4604]

W fiq

[@Yamisaru]

I agree with the disagreement of using mac Miller. I don't feel that he was a "poser"

[@carlosangel9404]

The Boondocks was right about BET, and Jack Harlow winning a BET award proves it. 😂😂😂

[@macdaddy1376]

the coondocks you mean

[@baileyayyy5085]

McGruder been right for like 15 years

[@lucyfir2166]

They were right way before that my guy

[@uriel4274]

Context?

[@Clayman-rc8db]

Mac Miller, Aesop Rock, El-P, Lil Ugly Mane, Your Old Droog, Action Bronson are the only white rappers that are beloved in the culture who aren’t under Eminem’s umbrella, at all. They don’t rely on white guilt to make a career.

[@chrryXX]

Yeat too

[@Clayman-rc8db]

@@chrryXXnah cuz then we’d have to put pouya etc and I’m not about to have them in the same conversation as these fellas

[@davidcooper22803]

Lil ugly mane is one of the most underrated musicians ever, happy to see some love

[@zjay]

Slug from Atmosphere should be in that list too

[@andreylopatin7230]

@@zjay Slug is mixed. His father is black, if Im not mistaken.

[@anikinrodriguez1221]

Im so glad Marlon Craft is getting the recognition he deserves. Such a solid artist.

[@IsaiahSenku]

Fax

[@superdupeninja8149]

Agreed

[@xanightsbeloved]

Hopefully ol dude Don't sell out

[@h3ck774]

@@xanightsbeloved id bet he would have offers by now and we would see it dudes already been poppin off and it looks like he stickin too himself

[@cvm6854]

The rap battle part sums up his critique perfectly. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen a white hooper getting praised for doing some normal shit. FD’s issue isn’t really with white rappers. The white rappers are just the symptom.

[@warnaoh]

Examples ? Cause most of the time just saying "you white" get the crowd crazy

[@FYGUnkleUrple]

⁠@@warnaohmaybe on a URL stage but that don’t stop people like A Ward, Bigg K, Charron, Soul Kahn, Frak, or plenty of other people still having their own avenue. There’s definitely something to be said as far as those white people bars going crazy even though they’re normally just the same shit, but there’s also something to talk about when certain bars are treated differently in general just due to skin color.

[@qsings8674]

@@FYGUnkleUrpleI get that, white rappers Gettin pushed like crazy sure, but when actually sit down n listen to material such as a A ward, charron, bigg k, etc, I’d never call their material “basic” or just “okay”

[@FYGUnkleUrple]

@@qsings8674 Yeah my bad I wasn't trying to paint them like that, more like the "you white" bars go crazy on certain stages but not all of 'em and they shouldn't. The material those battlers do are actually great and should be regarded as so, but I can get when some people may have bias whether leaning into or against the material. All about identifying it. Btw A Ward 2-1 vs Aye Verb.

[@Darkstar_Dayne]

That's just false, I can't recall one line from any song from a white rapper except Eminem

[@15mcollins]

Mac Miller on the wall side eyeing Shawn is hilarious during this video 😂

[@TheTripleDogDare]

The Jack Harlow issue is that he was trying to invent his rap career for years before he was put on and HE believes that it was that grind that got him where he was. I used to listen to Jack since he was skipping class in high school to record, unfortunately none of that grind amounted to his current success and it was his marketable image and white appeasing sound that launched his stardom, not the content he was putting out when he himself was an Eminem clone. Now I think he feels more comfortable with the “sell out” because of his earlier work, not realizing that he literally could’ve never put out anything since Whats Popping and the Bryson tiller track and be in the exact same place. Mac Miller had that progression in reverse where he tried to scrub the frat rap sound to cement himself instead of Indulging in it after acquiring his fame

[@youcanthandlethetruth8873]

An Eminem clone? Dude, the only thing shared between them is their skin color. Jack is a Drake clone if anything.

[@IsaiahSenku]

I agree mostly but Jack is a drake clone if anything, I love his older music despite that

[@GDSprodify]

@@youcanthandlethetruth8873Jack is more Big Sean and Drake, but Still Corny

[@bartbreukels5429]

he was talking about old Jack Harlow ​@@youcanthandlethetruth8873

[@dspirea]

Mac Miller has to be considered in Hip Hop’s top ten.

[@l0rdsnorlax]

People sleep on beastie boys in hip hop conversations nowadays they were definitely the best white rappers they had big influence and stayed in their lane with unique ideas and fusions. Pioneers fr

[@frostblxoxod]

I always think the same thing too, they're dope af

[@nate_thegreat313]

They don’t get enough credit and flowers.

[@kuvf9816]

Yes they do wtf y'all want Black people saying there the best ? Run DMC is better wutang too

[@Darkstar_Dayne]

​@@kuvf9816They're definitely among the Top 10 rap groups in Hip Hop. They helped popularize Rap in a big way

[@KingNapz]

They most def get their credit.

[@tmoneytrev9798]

I remember someone said that Mac Miller was the only mainstream white rapper who actually handled their career the right way and that’s something that’s stuck with me since his death

[@Leyuhm]

It's so ttrue tho fam

[@mike04574]

if he was still around, maybe a different case

[@Raitor33]

@@mike04574 Idk man, he was only getting better

[@dylanmiller1140]

Shawn not getting that it was an in living color sketch is the funniest thing I’ve seen all year

[@taylorbugg11]

I love the fact that you’re getting into FD Signifier content! This is so fire to me because a lot of Black YT music/content creators garner a certain fan base (largely male), and you’re exposing your fan base to real, educated topics.

[@AfroDevil]

the guy is a racist bozo, lmao

[@x-xPhobia]

Lol fd very often steps out of his wheelhouse and just yaps and it's garbo. I used to learn a lot from him. Now I feel like he looks down at me.

[@slackstarfish8133]

Hanz Zimmer is hard as hell

[@raheem7632]

Very

[@Jesus-wi1tt]

Fr

[@jackson97wc]

Facts

[@curse5697]

Yes, when does he get mentioned???

[@annah645]

@@curse5697 Maybe a German contribution?

[@clyshawnj3]

Getting into the Hip Hop KZbin community has really showed me how opinionated rap is. Seeing how narratives change from month to month. The fact that pretty much every music reviewer believes they’re giving an objective analysis, but they all disagree with each others takes. There is also a huge portion of smaller creators who enjoy pretty much everything. I think it’s just interesting to see, and now that I understand the space, it’s a good time. Shit hits like crack in the 80s

[@aintnow4y]

ok, thanks for sharing

[@clyshawnj3]

@@aintnow4y i hope you full

[@misterx44]

and its crazy that black ppl are discussing all these things bout white rappers but dont wanna recognize the real problem in industry of top TOP list of hip hop TODAY: Sexy Redd, Ice Spice, Glorilla etc whos certain doin the rap industry worse than those all attempts by white ppl lol

[@K-tw4wb]

No music reviewer should be taken seriously if they think their opinion is objective truth

[@MR.FREEDMAN]

I came to appreciate Mac later in life. What makes himself is his courage to just be himself. He's not trying to sell you anything, he's just himself.

[@pereda37]

WMWTSO was his magnum opus for me

[@sleep6837]

I agree. I also think he had an artistic growth better than 90% of artists I've ever seen. He started as something fun and amateur, a few shades away from novelty. However, as time passed, Mac showed off the darker side of stuff like addiction and mental health. He actually grew out of immaturity, which very few artists do.

[@joshwhite5730]

IMO Mac May be a good rapper and musician but his voice is so annoying a can never get to not him. Same thing with Little Way e, Future, and Young Thug

[@LovesickMisanthrope]

Oh yeah, his growth is tragic as well as admirable.

[@LovesickMisanthrope]

​@sleep6837 Dude, so many artists have done this before though? Like how well do you get around to listening to new artists.

[@malcolm3099]

That main point that white rappers will constantly be graded on a different, more favorable scale really resonated with me. I rapped a bit growing up, but I didn't fully go into it because I knew I wouldn't be able to help the culture compared to if I was in a supporting role. It's why I'm trying to become a lawyer instead.

[@Cadesworth]

ok but hear me out: law-themed raps which educate people on legal jargon

[@bklyncrook]

​@@Cadesworth- Malcom up there should rap what Big L did in Ebonics. "Ayo check the legal jargons shits out./Allegedly is said before a conviction/need to be proven guilty is part of the constitution." Shit is actually kind of tough that's why I'm no rapper. 😂

[@warnaoh]

Corny asf

[@Userdoesnotexit]

help the culture ??? who the fuck cares

[@societalrevival1218]

@@Userdoesnotexitpeople who care about the culture. this doesn’t apply to you, that’s fine the world doesn’t revolve around you

[@Stirrups]

"I don't listen to rap much but I really like Eminem." This was me somewhere around middle school. In my defense, I hadn't really discovered my love of music yet, and I had to mature to a point where I could understand, appreciate and legitimately enjoy hip hop. I wouldn't even say that Eminem was my gateway because it probably would have happened without him, but he at least showed me the door. It just took a bit for me to open it.

[@idontknowwhatmyusernamesho5540]

Are you white?

[@brandonsheets1883]

I don't understand why that sentiment is a bad thing, you don't control the music that you enjoy. To just assume that people only listened to Eminem because they’re racist is insane, even so I don't see how its Eminem’s problem if people want to listen to him because he's white.

[@dm7561]

​@@brandonsheets1883think about the art form as a vehicle for what "the people" are saying in the streets, their experiences and culture..... and then consider someone who doesnt like that but only wants his news from a white guy. Im an em fan and em will be the first to break down why the "i dont like rap but eminem(or insert white rapper) is the greatest rapper" thing is indicative of someone whose disrespecting the culture and the source of it. A lot of those type of fans don't actually like black people. Em, El P, Mac Miller, these are dudes that respect the culture and are part of it. They love and respect the source

[@NITR0NAGINOSS]

​@@brandonsheets1883it's funny cause wouldn't Em be a race traitor to racists? 😂😂

[@yamieruki]

​@brandonsheets1883 "I don't like rap but I like Eminem" is the problematic phrase cause there are plenty of black Eminems and because it's got a black face it's hard to listen to

[@donventura2116]

Mac Miller was for the chillest white people who were for and of the culture. Never met white dude who liked Mac and also didn't genuinely love hip hop.

[@KevinPlump]

There are no white people of the culture of hip-hop because hip-hop culture is black. Now for the culture yes but of it, hell 👎🏾

[@kmoney890]

56:02 John Cena had an incredible album I don’t remember if it was that one specific but he really did that shit brother was cooking

[@furrybproductions]

🤣 that moment when you said, "I feel like I'm watching an In Living Color skit" YOU WERE watching an In Living Color skit 🤣🤣🤣

[@butterschunkmcdonalds5333]

Yeah i was agreeing with alot of this video until dude said MMLP is the ONLY decent Em album, And that every other Em project from that time was mid AT BEST, Sorry but that is just a horrible take, Dude 100% Has a LOT of Mid albums no doubt, But SSLP and The Eminem Show are both great albums, Idk how anyone could call those albums mid but praise MMLP lol

[@sandenson]

He said it's the only great Eminem album

[@butterschunkmcdonalds5333]

@@sandenson Same shit, Even tho i fully agree most of Em's discography sucks, SSLP & TES are great albums, No way someone listens to SSLP, MMLP & TES and says MMLP is great but the other two are mid lol, That's the most casual Em hater take, Like you clearly don't fw Em but you know MMLP is often considered his best work so you pretend you agree with that sentiment so you don't look like a hater, But then dismiss literally everything else he's done, I understand saying MMLP is his best, But saying that it's great yet SSLP and TES are mid AT BEST tells me dude hasn't really listened to either of them or he's just a hater. Em is in the same pocket on all three of those albums, Same energy and quality throughout, I'd have more respect if the dude straight up said look i just don't enjoy or listen to Em at all.

[@sandenson]

@@butterschunkmcdonalds5333 For the record, I have no horse in this race. I have listened to like 5 Eminem songs, and like all of them, but I was never interested enough in him to be neither a fan nor a hater. BUT. You're being a little overly passionate, no? I don't speak for F.D. Signifier, and I've only seen him talk about Eminem on this video, and on the interview he did with Fantano further discussing the same video, and from what I could gather from that, I'd say that his opinion on Eminem is "Eh". "He has a great album, a few good records, and then a bunch of 'eh' ones". Evidently, he's not a massive fan, but nothing indicates that he's a hater. Of course, there's the possibility that he's one, but you wouldn't know unless he reviewed Em's discography and explained his opinions. He thinks MMLP is on a league of its own, while you think that SSLP and TES are comparable to that. That's it. He's entitled to his opinion as much as you're entitled to yours. It's not that deep (probably).

[@butterschunkmcdonalds5333]

@@sandenson I'm def being over passionate lmao it just breaks my brain how someone could say those two albums are mid but MMLP is great, Like what great things does MMLP have going for it that those albums don't? What is so bad on those albums that is somehow not present on MMLP? They're kinda one in the same, Especially SSLP and MMLP, Only real difference between the three is TES has a more serious tone to it in comparison. Lyrically, Production wise, Flow wise, All three are quality, Like I said, I totally understand saying MMLP is his best work, But saying the other two are MID at BEST, And grouping them in with the rest of what is a mediocre discography in comparison comes off very lazy, Like i obviously don't know for a fact, But my hunch is that he didn't bother listening thru his catalog, I think he simply isn't a fan nor willing to give him a fair, Non biased listen. Who knows tho, I could be wrong.

[@overaxel9498]

⁠@@butterschunkmcdonalds5333so you automatically think that he’s biased because he doesn’t have your same stance on ems catalogue you need to evaluate yourself

[@4rl0ng]

Because of Em i started listening to Rakim, Big Pun, RA The Rugged Man, Kendrick, Kurupt, Tupac, Biggie, Immortal Technique, 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Nas and the list goes on.

[@wakkawakkagaming3710]

White rappers are stuck in a vice: to succeed they have to market to corny white fans because they're who listen. You try to make music for a black audience it comes across as pandering, and if you do your own thing you end up as Aesop Rock who has ten fans like me that stand on soapboxes and play None Shall Pass at pedestrians begging them to read the lyrics. The honest to god truth is, a white rapper can't really have credibility and fame, one comes at the expense of the other. Black rappers have this issue a little bit too, but not nearly as much because for them success isn't inherently construed with selling out (i.e guys like Jay Z and Kendrick who are big time mainstream but not necessarily sellouts.) Whereas with guys like Em and Jack Harlow, you go mainstream and the corniness factor skyrockets. Em was at his coolest when the radio wouldn't play his jam, and at his lamest when he was making hits with Rihanna. I think its why Mac was so beloved, he found a nice sweet spot. He was in the zeitgeist but not huge, he didn't steal shine from deserving black rappers around him. Whereas guys like Em and Jack suck all the oxygen out of the room because the corniest and loudest fans flock to them. Eminem is probably top three all time in terms of success, but whether that translates to his actual influence and credibility is a different question.

[@NITR0NAGINOSS]

There are some that don't need to market to specific rap fans. An artist called Ren I'll come back with others 😅

[@benjiusofficial]

This is no different than black rappers having to appeal to gangsterisms in the pre-Kanye days. Instead of corny whites, you get the "thugs".

[@BNA_Est.1988]

“dEtRoiT sTaNdUp!” 😂😂😂

[@firstlast9846]

*As a biracial man* who sits at the back of the bus by choice.. I don’t really have an issue with white rappers - I do however find something about them - in the way they market themselves to be corny.

[@ptrcrispy]

The back of the bus lowkey fye ion know why they ever fought to sit at the front

[@joebidenjr5902]

​@@ptrcrispy crazy comment dawg 😭

[@bruh......2005]

​@@joebidenjr5902he right tho

[@ptrcrispy]

@@bruh......2005 always needed to speak my mind on this

[@AllBetzOff]

@@ptrcrispyI hated the back of the bus. Shit was hot and noisy. Rather be the first out and get on with my day

[@verbage432]

This was a great video essay, the Mac Miller section was a little shaky with the details but the greater point still stands and the over all essay was good. 8/10

[@m1scmus1c]

15:16 my only issue with the FD video: punk is a very black genre

[@kaeslabyrinth]

absolutely!!

[@glor1fy975]

Bad Brains are the best punk band ever

[@hansolo9585]

@@glor1fy975Bad Brains are great but they can’t keep being the only example when people talk about black punk rock

[@LovesickMisanthrope]

Oh yeah but it was also stolen from them by white people, he can't talk about everything.

[@ayeyuh6920]

Is it though? I'm not saying that there's no black people in punk, there always has been, even at the beginning. But to say it's a black genre is a reach. You know how many times I've heard "that's white people shit" in my life? nah bro.

[@MR.FREEDMAN]

I've never related to Shawn more, simultaneously yelling at and agreeing at an FDSignifier video.

[@Megaman.ExE7]

That's an awfully hot coffee pot

[@PabloAfroSamurai]

I really enjoyed FD Signifier's video when it came out and I really enjoy this slightly different perspective by Shawn. This is what it's about, the culture can only move forward with discourse like this. Whole bunch of positive vibes from these two, would love to see them chat

[@kaza.m2047]

I swear hearing the discussions on race in America is like hearing someone describing the plot to complicated novel. Like there's so much levels to this shit 😂😂😂

[@nousername-zs3yh]

ikr 😂

[@NITR0NAGINOSS]

A lot of it ends up people talking out their butt for their own agendas instead of just being factual 😂😂😂😂

[@e.lnation4710]

What people have to understand with album sales is that most come from the first week, and Cole coming off his best-selling album to date had a lot to do with the number that 4YEO did. Despite this, the consensus is still that most people don't like the album. Great album sales don't necessarily mean the album is well-received.

[@Tom_Cii]

There's a whole european rap culture with a lot of white people, so I do wonder if that would ever be a discussion in the US

[@youcanthandlethetruth8873]

​@@dice234Not really. It's just difficult to appreciate a lot of the lyrics because literally every country has a different language and like 200 dialects within it. This also makes a lot of it difficult to find if you only speak English.

[@mcgavinclapping9490]

A whole rap culture tht will copy the art but then spit on the people tht inspired them….yea ok

[@Kali_Ma_]

German rap goes hard

[@wakeupscott]

​@@Kali_Ma_ talented artists in there but it's ruined by the large portion that pretend to be from a hood environment, despite growing up in germany. and by how much of the sound is directly taken from us rap

[@casualn5820]

Don’t know what country you from but in my country (the Netherlands), immigrants run the game

[@mathewrivera6492]

Let’s be real it’s not that complicated, people just make it more than what it is. People fear the possibility of white washing the culture, which has some merits to it, however it’s disingenuous to say that every white rapper is just auto more successful or just successful than black or any other rapper. Jack Harlow is okay, he popped off because people like his sound, just as people like playboy carti’s sound, who is also mid like jack. Em popped off through skill and luck, if he didn’t meet Dre he’d be broke. People forget that em has been in rap since about 89 and didn’t get his success till the late 90’s and early 2000’s.

[@brandonsheets1883]

FD is just assuming that Americans only listen to Eminem to uphold some racist system and not because they simply enjoy his music, there's no way to know people’s motivations. It's just a wild assumption until proven otherwise.

[@Billiamwoods]

​@@brandonsheets1883You're the one who doesn't understand the difference between systems and unconscious bias and people doing something just because they're racist. I don't think anyone listens to Eminem JUST because they hate black people, but the fact that Eminem CAN be listened to by people who are racist is kind of the issue. No racist or person who doesn't care about combatting racism is bumping Black on Both Sides. But they are bumping Eminem, especially because the record execs realise "hold on, we have a hip hop artist we can market to white Americans".

[@brandonsheets1883]

@@Billiamwoods Sure, but there's still no way to actually demonstrate that people are listening to Eminem due to some innate bias that they might have for their own race. Who's to say it's not just that Eminem is more relatable to white audiences who listen to him for that reason and not strictly because of his skin color? Even if it's the case that people listen to him out of some implicit racial bias, I wouldn't really consider that problematic unless the person actively dislikes black people or those of other races. We all have innate biases that are near impossible to get rid of. Furthermore, I don't see how it's Eminem’s problem that people choose to listen to him because of their own racial bias.

[@Billiamwoods]

@@brandonsheets1883 I think it's problematic that people have hidden racial biases even if they don't openly hold racist belief, but I'm kind of a radical leftist like that.

[@brandonsheets1883]

@@Billiamwoods When I say I don't think its problematic, I meant that implicit biases aren't really within the person’s control and they shouldn't be negatively judged for having them. The issue is not with the person, it's with the environment they were raised in. It could very well be because they simply grew up in an all-white neighborhood and not necessarily because they grew up in a systemically racist culture or had learned negative or unfair stereotypes about other races. My point is, even if we got rid of all forms of systemic racism, people might still develop racial biases even as the consequence of an otherwise innocent upbringing. These biases can develop even when there is no racist intent in the environmental processes which instill them.

[@NoobRaisin]

I need Shawn to do a white rapper tier list yesterday

[@kenouo2024]

I'm tryna do you

[@Kevin-fj3ff]

black pop star tier list next

[@korho6283]

@@Kevin-fj3ffwant to see him rank usher and jason derulo

[@Estylez18]

@1:06:49 This Bar is logics Song " Black SpiderMan " " Fuck everybody hatin' on me right now, I’m black and proud I'm Just as white as that Mona Lisa, Im Just as black as my cousin Kiesha, I'm Biracial so Bye Felicia " . All he's saying that He's Biracial And wants to be accepted that's it. I'm tired of the logic Slander, dude is a Lyricist trying to paint his canvas to convey through his storytelling, I know people are gonna say that he's too " Preachy ", and I don't see it that way, and Therefore he's living in his truth.

[@maazwaseem8313]

🌽

[@miltonpitts4185]

Man uses that bs all the time. Shut up and rap

[@jeffwilliams2828]

I’ve never understood why someone 12% black is claiming to be biracial? Words mean things

[@Keizi]

hilarious because shawns reaction to this bar was him clapping but of course because of the bobby hate train... his "opinions" or "feelings" have shifted...

[@BOGOworms4sale]

The problem is that you can infuse all the deep meanings you want into a song with meticulous lyricism, but if it’s not effective, convincing, or compelling, people aren’t gonna want to hear it. Nobody wants to hear about the black struggle from the most white passing biracial guy to ever walk this earth. It comes off so performative especially when he just isn’t really in community with black people.

[@Haniiiel]

The black Mac Miller is Tyler, The Creator. The point FD tries to make with Mac instead applies to Tyler where there are Tyler fans who aren't Hip-Hop fans. I think FD really missed on his Mac takes

[@kemywa7787]

yet, the white paradox doesn't apply to tyler, there is no 'black mac miller', tyler's career was born off being the weird, edgy, outspoken black kid an while they both present(ed) as misfits mac starting off with that frat air to him does not make him the white tyler, you sound new 2 this

[@kinetickid9114]

calling him an average rapper is straight up egregious.

[@losk3442]

Tyler is not exclusively rap though, his music ever since flower boy has elevated artistically to a point where calling him exclusively a rapper is wrong. Which is why he has many fans who don’t listen to other rap artists, if anything Tyler is like the newer version of Kanye. Their art transcends a genre and it’s listened by everyone.

[@ianardell4660]

Pretty big swing and a miss with this one. The reason Mac Miller has fans who aren’t hip hop is bc he’s white let’s be honest. The reason Tyler had a lot of non hip hop fans is because he marketed and continues to market himself as an outsider. Tyler has made non hip hop albums and throws a festival with a huge amount of non hip hop performers.

[@kdog5471]

@@ianardell4660Jesus… 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@atomicmark]

In my opinion gatekeeping things like a whole Music genre is weird because it wouldn’t be as big as it is without it going everywhere and mixing with other cultures BUT at the same time if you’re gonna make rap music make good rap music 😂

[@ONi_Smoke]

People be sleeping on Paul Wall

[@DefaultName-du3kr]

There are still parts of the US that has large populations of german and dutch speaking people. They stayed isolated so the language has not changed much since the 1900s and has evolved separately from the mainland language. Their culture is also not "American", pretty cool to see.

[@aiocafea]

yeah as he said that i kept thinking of examples, this only further highlights the lack of 'actual' white american culture as a european man, we do kind of clown on americans for waving their DNA tests despite their granddaddy abandoning the language, but FD really opened up my eyes-- how do you conjure up a single 'european' ethnic group without making the culture homogenous? how can it ever be interesting if you have to appeal to the fundamentalist types?

[@SBF90210]

Tbf. Swimming did 57k first week while Come home the kids miss you did 113k. So jack is definitely a better example for his argument than Mac

[@vizer4904]

AND remember…………Astroworld dropped the same day 😂😂

[@LovesickMisanthrope]

Sometimes sales don't matter it's about how people react to you and sometimes you need to go to these places.

[@Rob-k4m]

are there really white people who will only listen to white rappers? i've never seen one, that's gotta be a pretty rare bird

[@nuptvalorant1494]

so many older random white people just listen to Eminem and aren't in hip-hop circles it's extremely common

[@snookaisahtheotengahrepres5681]

yeah i only listen to neonazi rap

[@mr_knowitall]

It's very common. And it's not that they ONLY and STRICTLY listen to only white rappers, but they DO listen to Sage Francis.

[@Rob-k4m]

@@nuptvalorant1494I agree there are probably people who only listen to Em, but that is not listening to white rappers, that is listening to white rapper

[@nuptvalorant1494]

@@Rob-k4m sure, but those people who exclusively listen to Eminem would not be exclusively listening to eminem if he was black

[@Chitwnboii104]

FDSignifire and I have a lot of similarities and differences. He's from Chicago. So am I, but I'm from the west side. We both are black men with the same level of education. He grew up Muslim, and I grew up Christian. Our similarities and our differences draw me to his content, and I appreciate that a lot. However, I don't believe in hip hop gate keeping. We didn't do it with Blues, County, Jazz, Rock, or Bluegrass. White people rapping has always been there. White people were famous and rapping in the 80's. All of these genres are rooted in human suffering. Pain sales! That's the music biz folks.

[@greetingsmars]

I love fiq but “I can’t live without rap battles of history” is such a teacher ass take lmao

[@takalanajae]

Fr like..😭😭😭

[@godspeedhero3671]

I kinda get what he means those. It's a very specific niche and technically no one else was really doing it like that and taking it as a serious endeavor.

[@LovesickMisanthrope]

Not nerdy enough nor able to take anything that sounds serious

[@TunbosunOyenuga]

Nah, I kinda feel like gatekeeping on the low... regardless of give some credit to a few white rappers. Create music/rap from your environment/experience, don't be fake or sellout (aka you want Lil Dicky or G Eazy pretending to be something they ain't)... The culture will callout the fakes or the ones that don't want to give due credit. I'm not even a Mac Miller and this was starting to rub me the wrong way. Do some white rapper need to stop copying the Em format and push their own lane while paying homage/learning about other rap...Yes But imo FD just sounds like an oldhead not evolving with the time. Hip-hop and rap will forever be historical and still rooted in black culture, but has extended around the world. Influencing many of all kinds.

[@Radjhitoocool]

I don’t think there’s ever a point where he tells white people to not rap.

[@grlbcc]

Orrrr…rap, but try not to steal (knowingly or unknowingly). Practice gratitude and give homage to who birthed it. RUN DMC video “Tricky” hit the nail on the head from beginning to the end of the video.

[@T33-y8b]

You being soft.

[@Radjhitoocool]

@@cosmonauthal7651 there is no solution it’s just systemic analysis and his personal views.

[@Radjhitoocool]

@@cosmonauthal7651 he basically just describe the structures of white supremacy and capitalism and threw rap music into it. He’s not being problematic he’s literally just accurately describing the material reality we exist under. The problems arise through the commodification not just the existence of white rap artist. Don’t take it personal

[@tedthecommenter5364]

Lil Ugly Mane my favorite white rapper because after his first tape Mista Thug Isolation blew in 2012 up he announced his retirement because he was getting contacted complex and pitchfork for interviews and legitimately didn't want the fame and just wanted to rap, plus he can rap his ass off and his production is insane

[@Carakav]

I watched this video by FD when it first dropped, and it stuck with me. It's one of those unique videos where I agree with every word he said, but also feel like something is missing.

[@dickthehead1145]

His observations are correct, but I think his ideology around it and his conclusions are way off imo. White people are a non factor in the development of hip hop with the exception of less then 5 people give or take a few. It just sort of seems like a guy shouting at the moon. Its not like metal vs metalcore where poser fans genuinely do damage to the image of the scene.

[@CMBlue]

As someone who has worked with a decent amount of Gen Zers, im starting to fear Mac is becoming the go-to pick for the 'i dont like rap but...' crowd Also post deserved all the smoke harlow got

[@lefromthecity]

I love that I saw when you first learned about FD signifier and making sure to comment that you would love his content!😂 So happy the viewers were right and you really resonate with his content with more and more reactions. It’s Like seeing Unc and Nephew bond at the cookout 😊

[@thekiller3475]

em has multiple fantastic album folks just hate cuz hes poppin, its cool to not like em

[@therambler3713]

Haters will never forgive him for being white

[@LovesickMisanthrope]

Nah he sucks and is overpraised like what you're doing.

[@Titleist24]

@@LovesickMisanthropedropped 3 classics in a row, along with dropping a classic Oscar winning soundtrack, with countless classic features on classic albums. What he’s done past his prime doesn’t take away from how good he was

[@ianardell4660]

@@bossshxtonlyadding Kendrick in there is hilarious.

[@jconny65]

literally nobody has considered mac miller a "goat". we just like and/or respected the guy lol.

[@jahterminatedlmao5473]

bro but they deadass have 💀

[@joelman1989]

So you haven’t been around Mac Miller fans? Or actually you haven’t watched KZbin shorts??? I’ve literally seen lists on shorts of top 5 with Miller on the list. Eminem always at #1

[@smithcaleb124]

@@joelman1989he not top 5

[@stephensmith7327]

I do think he did get a bigger push than some other rappers that started around the same time. Mostly because the people around me who listened to rap watched more MTV over Adult Swim.

[@LovesickMisanthrope]

Nah that's a lie because you might not but many others do.

[@blahblahblah9267]

most of the same critiques towards eminem being more alternative hip hop and celebrated by non hip hop fans can also apply to alot of hip hop crossover acts and isn't necessarily jsut because he's a popular white rapper. Kanye West and Drake also challenged the expectations of hip hop in their debut and brought music to new hip hop demographics

[@tofuteh2348]

I don't understand how he could call the eminem show mid

[@tedthecommenter5364]

some of the beats on that album are trash, but it has great tracks on their regardless, too much eminem production

[@wayback1010]

The trash beats low key add to the charm of the record, he had dr dre as executive producer he could've gotten good beats​@tedthecommenter5364

[@kristoamadeus4441]

Some of the songs suck but overall I think it’s good to great

[@MrShaiya96]

@@tedthecommenter5364em production? Till I collapse

[@hansolo9585]

I mean compared to Blueprint and College Dropout it is pretty mediocre tbh

[@BlueSky-dm3fb]

em really gonna get shit on for the rest of his life for this lol

[@Ehh.....]

I mean yeah but at the same time he will be revered just as much if not more. It a double edged sword hes dealin with. Even with his more recent output not being universally liked he's still, I believe, gonna have that legacy as one of, if not the best rappers to a large percentage of people (im sayin this as someone who doesnt care for him and would disagree with that title for him).

[@Z3ROMyth]

admiring his skills and inherent talent as a rapper/lyricist/musician is too difficult for some mfs out here

[@beinerthchitivamachado9892]

Only in the US are people this weird against Em. LITERALLY everywhere else in the world he's respected and admired like he should be, a Rap Legend.

[@Ehh.....]

@@beinerthchitivamachado9892 damn, it's almost like rap started here and is so far more prevalent in the states that people have a higher standards. Pizza is loved everywhere too but I gareentee you if you take even the good shit from any country to Italy they'd flame you.

[@beinerthchitivamachado9892]

@@Ehh..... You were cooking with the first part of the comment, I have no idea what you meant in the second part. I know that Hip Hop started in the US, but that doesn't mean y'all have higher standards when it comes to music or rap, LMAO. What I'm trying to say is, only in the US do I see so much Eminem hate. Or people debating if mfs like Jay-Z are bigger than Em. Maybe in America, yeah. But Em's GLOBAL reach and impact is something Americans will never be able to fully grasp, because y'all too self-centered.

[@living-undead]

I only have a handful of white rappers in rotation but the main one I fw is Wynne, so hearing Marlon was kinda nice. Def gonna check out more of his stuff.

[@HotTaiCurry]

Yo Wynne on Roll Call and Ego Check with JID is actually fire. I support homegirl.

[@bretwojarski5842]

Eminem is the best white rapper then it’s Devlin in second and Morrisson in third!

[@living-undead]

@@bretwojarski5842 I disagree but I'm glad you enjoy those dudes

[@_dead_jarta]

Saying "what is german food?" Is insane ngl

[@godspeedhero3671]

That was the only part I was like "NAH, MAN WTF?!" Like 80% of southern food is German in origin.

[@jon-cx7jq]

​@@godspeedhero3671lmao that is not true

[@sandenson]

The pinned comment on that video is literally him saying "ok, after reading the comments, I stand corrected about German food" lol. He really missed with that take.

[@errorloadinginformation5429]

I knew he was finna say Marlon 😂 bros criminally underrated

[@natesvibin3937]

I can’t find exactly what was said when the Self Care vid was used, the coffin scene, but I think it’s odd. Mac Miller came up with people like Vince Staples and Earl Sweatshirt, do you really think if he was black his music would just amount to some ‘regular shit’? And I find it very ironic FD brings up that we need to be critical of the legacy, while neglecting Mac Miller’s successes in Faces and Watching Movies. I think Mac Miller is just misrepresented in this vid.

[@natesvibin3937]

1:32:41 😭

[@Clayman-rc8db]

His collabs with Earl & Vince prove he’s misrepresented. They had a unique trio goin on for a while

[@Angel.Shehu8081]

Working with other popular names does not GUARENTEE your success, that's purely an assumption. I don't thnk he said that mac isn't talended or that he has a "bad" legacy or whatever. I think his main argument was that as a white person mac miller does reside in the white rapper paradox and get all the benefits he proposed.

[@natesvibin3937]

@@Angel.Shehu8081 that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying they pioneered a sound and raised the bar for skill together. I acknowledge the white privilege but I’m talking about how FD said some extra shit, dissing Mac’s potential for GOAT status meanwhile he held his own working with contemporaries like Earl, Tyler, Vince, Ab-Soul, and Action Bronson. I also recognize that this vid is about the white rapper paradox and instead of talking about how accurate that is I’m ultimately sitting here defending a white rapper with white privileges, but I felt Mac Miller was disrespected and misrepresented and I’m just trying to bridge that gap.

[@Angel.Shehu8081]

@@natesvibin3937 He said that Mac Miller is not the GOAT or around that with reasons and he gave examples with other artists. What he said wasn't unfathomable or of ill intent. You only think it's a diss because it's targeted towards an artist you like. I also like Mac Miller, but obiously you have to separate yourself from your bias because people are allowed to state an opinion contrary to mine.

[@sylveetumadre2022]

18:19 “Jim Carrey wildin” had me rolling 😭

[@illexpreshun]

If I want to listen to white rappers, i'll listen to Aesop Rock, Slug/Atmosphere, Sage Francis, Brother Ali, RA the Rugged Man, Mac Miller, Action Bronson. And each of those artists are different from each other but rapping is their means of expression, not a disingenuous imitation of contemporary black culture. If you listen to Aesop, he's a literary genius, no i did not say 'literally,' i said LITERARY genius. Atmosphere was like the 1st sarcastic, nihilistic rapper with some of the most honest, introspective commentary with the most ominous beats ever. Sage Francis is Sage francis. He's one of the most poetic rappers I've ever heard with elite rhyme skills. They have an individualism about them that they bring to the table that sometimes were innovative and unique. Like the style of morbid, dark, ominous beats the Atmosphere or Aesop Rock were doing in the early 90s, nobody was doing that shit, and they rapped with more metaphorical and cryptic song structure, rather than conversational or speaking to the audience from artist to listener. So there's a lot of examples of white rappers in hip hop that did really dope shit, were innovative and high level of skill that made classic albums w/o being an awful interpretation thru the white lense.

[@maazwaseem8313]

Kno from CunninLynguists too, one of the most underrated rap groups of all time

[@maazwaseem8313]

Brother Ali too, dude is amazing

[@illexpreshun]

@@maazwaseem8313 cunninglynguists, wow.... I remember buying 'will rap for food' in hs.

[@illexpreshun]

@@maazwaseem8313 he was. I remember when he beat eyedea at scribble jam in 99 or 2000 I think?

[@silversoulken]

Thes One from People Under The Stairs is also ridiculously underrated and dope as fuck.

[@Chris-rj4bt]

Yeah I remember listening to Jackman and wondering why it was getting so much hype when he didn’t even really go anywhere with his topics

[@SlickEvan]

In the intro of this video I knew bro was talking about Marlon Craft. I rock with Marlon and when I first heard him, it was on Spotify, and I did not know this man was white AT ALL. Finally ended up watching his music video for Gang Shit and was like wtf, but Marlon is dope. I hope he can get more traction as time goes on. I like his music.

[@6Qubed]

as far as "greatest white rappers" Aesop Rock is an auto-lock, but I feel like everyone else I could think of are honorable mentions: there's MC Frontalot who _named_ the entire subgenre of nerdcore rap. there's the ERB guys, who I feel like are a lotta folks mainstream introduction to battle rap (I mean yeah nick cannon's on TV but who watches TV anymore and also fuck nick cannon) and then there's Weird Al, who isn't a rapper but he has rapped before and I remember Kurt Cobain saying that you haven't made it as a musician until Weird Al parodies one of your songs, and Al's always trying to be respectful of the artists who's songs he parodies (with the notable hiccup being the mixup with Coolio's people that wouldn't have happened if Al had thought to ask the man directly. mistakes happen)

[@saahiliomusic]

I don't understand how people are saying that was a good video, i'm glad shawn called him out near the end, the dude said Eminem did not know his influence on society and his own privelage he clearly has not listened to We As Americans or White America, he even said all but one of his albums are mid which is just wrong to say especially the eminem show and 8 mile soundtrack, then he started disrespecting Mac miller for no reason, he didn't even mention the Pittsburgh sound that helped him or the people he collaborated with, he didn't mention one thing about relatability to mental health that alot of hip hop fans do tend to have that gravitated them to mac miller. every single point this dude made he forced it into blaming whiteness and it's just really weird and uncomfortable to watch. this dude definitely doesn't analyze or listen to music and is more of a guy that repeats what he hears in barber shops and on twitter. i watched the whole video to see if he would start to make sense, at the end when he said that shit about ERB and basically glazing El-P without even giving him a section in the video just solidifies his ignorance. Shawn spoke more about El-Ps career than the dude in the video. Idk how anyone can say rap would be better off without eminem because he helped put 50 cent on, exposed the Source magazine for manipulating ratings, and had amazing sell out tours all throughout the 2000s with dre snoop xzibit d12 50, this dude did not even mention tours one bit, one of the biggest parts of hip hop

[@palooski227]

when i see these takes i feel like y’all don’t watch the video or you already have your mind made up about the topic. not tryna debate just an observation, which i can absolutely be wrong about.

[@saahiliomusic]

@@palooski227 I commented after watching , I don't think it's possible for me to have my mind made up about it because I was pointing out the video being factually wrong and leaving out a lot of information and being biased, nothing to do with opinions.

[@JailBr3ak3r77]

Rest in peace Mac Miller 1:05:39 🙏🏿

[@ny4lyfe19]

Bro Marlon Craft was born and raised in Hell’s Kitchen… in the same building Alicia Keyes grew up in. Who I may add is biracial so should we have a problem with her?

[@Dylan03917]

I don't think I can give up El-P/RTJ, Mac Miller, and Aesop Rock.

[@XekTOr89]

Who asked you to give up anything?

[@nox2sweet]

he's not asking you to give up anything, that's why he gave those artists those props

[@calisthetics]

Yall needa put some respect on Marlon Craft. He is crazy dope. Definitely is favorite white rapper

[@Skinsuits]

MMlp2 was a great album idc what no one says

[@knickknack675]

This was such a great video. I need a Shawn and FD collab

[@Plezman]

I love chat provin fd’s point. The only albums they could list for mac was swimming pools and circles. Meanwhile, if say like j.I.d we’re only to come up with two great album y’all be all over this nigga like “we need more”. Not to disrespect Mac, but as unfortunate as Mac millers death was, y’all only bring these rappers to a higher pedestal cause they’re--

[@thescanlon]

As soon as he said white, raspy voice from New York I knew it was Marlon😂

[@YourLocalMelomaniac]

It terms of this conversation, MTBMB should really be respected 3000x more fr

[@ohnojojo19]

i think shawn looking at the mac miller situation from the wrong way. he got a lot more of his hype after he died. sure he had some before but let’s be honest it’s always crazier after they die so i feel like this view only came about at a point in time where mac miller was being brought to people’s attention

[@IMissMartha]

Yea I think it's a weird thing with him cause Mac had like 4 different things happen after death. Like the usual shit was "bump up their streams cause they dead now" but Mac really did have a lot to offer as an artist, so when he died a lot of people stayed, honestly me being one of them. I def agree tho Mac as great as he was, wasnt in the goat convo, but at the end of the day I doubt that even mattered to him.

[@GyrusBeatz]

Naw Mac BEEN had numbers and hype around him before his death. Dude was extremely popular and loved, hell, even JAY-Z tweeted about how he thought Mac miller was nice before his death lol Mac was around for a whole 10 years in the mainstream making hits with huge artists and producers. So it’s disrespectful to say he only got “big” from his death. His death was a big deal BECAUSE he was so loved. His death vs XXXtentacion death was different because Mac been proved himself as a respected artist so his passing really hurt the culture and fans. X death hurt because it felt like he was ABOUT to pop. There’s a difference. Anyway RIP Mac

[@keneola]

Shawn's so shook about Mac Miller being "called out" (at least in his head) that he's pushing the extremes of F.D's points and saying Mac Miller was never like that. Shawn's missing the "White Rapper Paradox" is not a point exclusive to Mac Miller so it has to be viewed as a gradient. Jack Harlow was never like Eminem and Mac Miller was never like Jack Harlow and Little Dicky was never like Mac Miller and down the gradient we go but all the people in the gradient as white rappers exprienced a level of success that gave them an appeal to a larger non-Black audience by default. Also this last bit is not aimed at Shawn but there's people acting like Black people talking about this ain't going to change your mind - please understand nobody is trying to appeal to you.

[@Angel.Shehu8081]

literally lmao. Like what did we spend an hour listening to

[@toxpov3612]

we all know that but the problem comes from how he describes mac. like white or black mac's music still isn't just "regular shit"

[@keneola]

@@toxpov3612 A fan is allowed to genuinely feel that way because music is highly subjective and Mac stuff being introspective makes it more-so. How I took FD's analysis was really just about the tenants of emceeing and perhaps how proficient Mac was compared to his contemporaries. The trap F.D may have fallen into is social aspect of modern societies inability to process the full spectrums of language. It's real easy to understand "aweful" and "great" however "mid", "average" and "okay" makes people feel a certain way when we are feed a diet of 7 to 10 of a 1 to 10 scale. F.D said Mac was a good rapper which is a positive thing but as he tries to expand on that, it began to sound like "good" was "mid". Thing is good is still good. The murder mook battle rap piece with the white baller and the baller demonstrates this. Black rappers are expected to be good and it isn't special when they are and a good white rapper feels like seeing a unicorn when they should really just blend into the background. I don't have a tight explanation for this though and Im still trying to process it all. maybe they stand out because they're white in a sea of black and that catches the white gaze. I don't think it was F.D's intent to make light of Mac Miller but he couldn't hype him up and honestly make his point at the same time and he knew he was going to catch smoke for it too.

[@xSoporific1]

Bruh I watch this vid earlier this morning

[@pattyweston-mg8kz]

i love it also when shawn acts like he hood or suave and trash 4yeo while promoting a weird faux separatism gatekeep ass type shit.

[@NITR0NAGINOSS]

I like Eminem but I feel like I've grown out of listening to him

[@nickwilson7241]

It is kinda frustrating that this conversation basically only ever applies to a very thin slice of people at the very top who get a bunch of mainstream media attention and then make Hulu shows or some shit, when really there are so many amazing white rappers who clearly love the culture and the craft, but they don't get talked about because they don't fit into that "Eminem clone" box that the industry wants them to be in

[@TheMicael100]

Being an "amazing rapper" isn't enough. Popularity and financial success comes from a lot of other areas besides just rapping well. There are talented people everywhere you gotta have the extra "it" factor to gardner attention. With Em like every successful rapper ever it's all about the story. Sure you can rap well what's your story though? And why should I care about you? That's what a lot of artist miss

[@anachronismic]

I mean ultimately the people at the top are the most obvious cases, but the concept applies down the chain too, just in more subtle ways.

[@LovesickMisanthrope]

No no FD says this applies to all white rappers, you can do things to hinder it which some have done other's (mostly inspired by Eminem haven't done. They ignore their whitemess and the culture they steal from then become halfway competent and win an award show.

[@nickwilson7241]

@@LovesickMisanthrope sure bro. Whatever you say bro. I'm sure FD knows more about the rap game than Talib Kweli and Murs when they sat down and said basically exactly what I just said

[@cshakuore]

*Nardwaur* gon give *Shawn Cee* his CD back when the interview happen

[@Runthemjewels]

1:18:20 Shawn is completely on the money 100%

[@katoffeevhs9798]

vanilla ice was DEFINITELY the new Elvis lol

[@omelettedufromage4]

Its crazy I agreed the whole video until the Mac take

[@shometsu_0278]

The first step is always self awareness

[@AKATSUKIROBES]

yall are blinded by your love for Mac, he aint say anything bad about the dude. Even gave him his flowers multiple times.

[@HotTaiCurry]

Yeah, it’s the posthumous love. Mac deserve all his flowers, but the GOAT conversation is wild. Mac himself would never put himself in there but Mac support from Vince Staples, Thundercat, and Kendrick alone should speak volumes about who Mac was when he was alive.

[@hjblacdes61]

He didn't even say anything bad about him. Just that he isn't as great as a lot of folks give him credit for. I love Mac and I believe this too kinda. I'm just glad he did start making legit good music before we lost him

[@YerpDerp17]

@@hjblacdes61 So if its not negative, then you're saying that someone else statingt "someone isn't as good as people claim they are" is a positive statement? lol Sure he said he is good, but also made sure to say "but not that good". And my point is anyone can say that about any artist. It's irrelivant to the point of his video, because its simply an opinion. So it was an unnecessary dig in my opinion. And its fine he said it, its his right and opinion, but lets not act like it wasn't AT BEST passive agressive. lol

[@jakewalker1474]

For Shawn Cee to forgot about milkbone tells you the boy knows his shit , no didy

[@ShaneTimm-md2ow]

I'm so curious. Should white folks suppress their talent? I don't get the point of any of this video. If being white is a free pass into hip hop, I would have a ton of famous friends.

[@MochaRitz]

​@@bossshxtonlygood job turning this into a politics thing

[@tomboyinrecovery]

Eminem being mid is wild im sorry call me a d eater but golly

[@MrJessenava]

I feel like people leave Paul Wall out of the “white rapper” conversation because we all kinda agree, he’s black

[@baileyayyy5085]

"im not the elvis of rap" - the elvis of rap

[@RoxxirandomMe]

People forget about the southern white rappers too - Bubba Sparxxs (in his heyday), Paul Wall.

[@SihaamCabdiraxiin]

They don't have any culture just like asian if you life around of black people that don't make sense talent skills art and also gifft god give black people decent Africa from gospel to blues to country to rock and roll to soul to funk to hiphop to jazz to metalhed to reggae to banjo stolen or study

[@micahpolizzi7007]

I just can’t help but feel like FD commits a whole lot of hypocrisy while getting out his thoughts. Putting Eminem in the box of influence he created is weird. He’s mad at white people who like Eminem and don’t like black art but, like, you’re blaming the artist for the void the industry is trying to fill. Yet he’s so right that big mainstream white rappers don’t contribute to the culture. and that EL-P did. But like, that then doesn’t make it black art. We as white people do this with everything and for a time it becomes pop- IE popular. I’d argue the opposite. NF never found a real artistic lane because he filled a preexisting niche, and the pop culture moved on passed him. Just like Joyner. I’ll even take his side that black art is superior in modern culture but- the culture agrees. Right now the culture is picking kendrick over drake.

[@micahpolizzi7007]

It’s kinda like saying jazz music is gentrified because white people invented the piano

[@dickthehead1145]

The issue is ignorance and it comes from both sides. White people don't care to understand hip hop truly, black people won't police their own people to keep hip hop healthy. Shout at whitey all you want, blacks are/ were the ones bumping sexy red, drake, ice spice, blue face ext. Just because kendrick drake happened people forget that hip hop was in the worst state its been in for a while, thats not white peoples fault. Thats because "the culture" bumps it then turns around calls Mr Morale trash because it exposes them. People want to share the trash but not the Roc Marcianos, the Apathys. People need to take the chip of their shoulder and work for the improvement of what they love and themselves.

[@NITR0NAGINOSS]

It's ignorance. Every genre of music was inspired from another genre that started another genre from success and it being good music. Great music inspires great music!

[@xbilliamsx]

1:25:40 it did 12k the first week following his death not 12k first week on release lmao bruh didn’t even read the whole sentence lol

[@crazymarkiplierfan]

I give it another 3 or 4 years and black people are gonna eat Jack Harlow alive. I genuinely think Harlow is bigger for his persona then he is for his actual rap. He does throw down from time to time not dissin. I think the culture is it's own worst enemy tho it's a constant case of the snake eating it's own tail. We just keep doing the same shit over and over again.

[@traplover6357]

FD really made me understood the "paradox" part.

[@cshakuore]

So *Miley* pulled a *Vanilla Ice* and due to *Hannah Montana* nostalgia we let it slide ? 🤣🤣🤣

[@highclassnast1413]

Best white rapper right now is al.divino

[@bretwojarski5842]

Nar imma go with Morrisson

[@coldhardjayard5424]

bro both wilin and spittin at the same time

[@jaysven6153]

I agree 100 percent

[@kdpwt]

Damn I thought I was the only one who thought this lol

[@Stunnacrew87]

I agreed the whole way till the mac stuff. You’re right, that whole section should have been about harlow

[@bdizz19]

1:33:00 idk about this take. I mean from Aesop Rock to Weird Al they def had a lot of art and still are not as popular as say Tyler the creator

[@bdizz19]

But without neither of these guy hiphop would be the same

[@calebm3465]

23:31 bro forgot Funcrusher Plus

[@barryschalkwijk9388]

Vanilla had mixtapes out years before Ice Ice baby. Dude was well respected in his hood.

[@smoteytothemax]

I feel bad for people that only see color. I despise people that base their life on the mental gymnastics around that and spread their hatred

[@gueundhrb1702]

Tell that to uncle sam

[@LovesickMisanthrope]

Tell that to modern patriarchal society or white people. FD ain't the guy you talking about.

[@smoteytothemax]

@@LovesickMisanthrope I didnt name any color here because there are r@cists in every group. Thanks for exemplifying my comment

[@Dgoryes__]

​@@LovesickMisanthrope"patriarchal" 😂😂😂