Drama From The Disc Golf World Championships

The 2024 Disc Golf World Championships are officially over crowning two Champs. But before that Swiss Cheese and Jefferson recap all the drama you need to know and there was a lot...
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[@davepalmer9265]

The kevin jones still photo for dgn being down is low key hilarious

[@SiLVERSERG]

😂😅

[@chislicer5167]

At least we had that. Nice one, whoever did that!

[@chrisbecker9029]

claiming that you don’t intentionally go after Brodie and Foundation is pretty wild to me.

[@ocredynate3369]

seriously..

[@austinthrowsstuff]

It is kinda crazy that they don’t even mention it lol I am a foundation Stan

[@seymourglass26]

They're literally based out of Lynchburg, so they have home court advantage as reporters (if they want to be reporters). If they didn't cover FPO, they screwed up. If this isn't true, this channel and video is lying. I love the truth when it's this simple. You can confirm which is true if you follow Foundation's content.

[@M1ster.Fr3sh]

Ya DGW def feels like high school drama. Foundation isn't good either, but DGW feels far more immature and petty with some of their takes, pretty sure it's made by young obnoxious kids.

[@seymourglass26]

@@M1ster.Fr3sh Yet, with far fewer resources, DGW travelled to Worlds and covered the whole event. Foundation had it set-up in their backyard and half-way did the job. What does that tell you?

[@justinheister7949]

14 was gross. It felt like I was watching a carnival game.

[@Eaglemadhatter]

And the hill hole on the other course

[@justinheister7949]

@@Eaglemadhatter And then all the OB rope 🤢

[@thefriesens1071]

Anttila's roll away was about the most unfair break I've ever seen.

[@Chris.Davies]

Gimmicky garbage, as are ALL artificial structures in disc golf. Putting in "breadsticks" to guard a basket... elevating a basket... putting OB 3 metres from the pin... Or basket on a dangerous slope... These things all tell you something about the course designer. It tells you that they ran out of knowledge, talent, and skill, a long time before the design was completed.

[@qedyt]

To put it mildly, hole 14 was the most unprofessionally designed green I have ever seen. This is the most prestigious tournament in disc golf -- and you decide to turn a green basically into random lottery? It may very well have decided the Men's championship, as Niklas' rollaway was the most unfair in disc golf history and beyond.

[@bisk1407]

FPO is so lucky evelina can’t putt, she would dominate harder than PP and Tattar

[@TimothyStuder]

If she spent the off-season with a professional putter coach on a bunch of short courses, she would be the next Climo for FPO.

[@WBCHelpSaint]

So much love for OTB for setting up the opportunity for folks to vend without ridiculous costs. That is such a terrible look for PDGA/DGPT et all

[@monkeyearcheese420]

Foundation talks about fpo all the time. I think you might be digging a bit

[@Chris.Davies]

Despite being not-a-terribly-nice guy (I've met him), I respect Drew Gibson, and what he has to say. Because he knows what he is talking about, and he is not repressed -- he literally does not care what people think about HIM. He just wants people to actually THINK. If you disagree with him, that is just you (as a human being) deciding for yourself - AND GOOD FOR YOU! Be aware that it doesn't make you any less wrong, however.

[@seymourglass26]

The people who hate Drew are also people who'll bitch about cancel culture. Let a man be. He wins or loses on his own. He stands by his ideas. Love him or hate him, he's not disrepectful or hurtful towards anyone.

[@maxfieldnelson]

i've met him too and he was kind of a jerk. that being said, i still follow him on twitter and listen to his takes. not everyone can be calvin nice i guess

[@zachgilchrist669]

What the frick are you talking about?

[@tattooedjohnson]

FPO is a 5 person division even after 50 years of constant promotion

[@matiasse]

Welcome to Finland next year, thanks for the coverage!

[@lfish21.]

I like your recaps…. But attacking other creators for how they cover events ain’t it.

[@josh1549]

It's all good and fun

[@dustyclery8791]

Then do it yourself..........or shhhhhhhhhhhhh. You don't have to watch if it hurts your feelings lil boy.

[@lfish21.]

@@dustyclery8791lol

[@pdderek]

Categorizing it as an 'attack' seems disingenuous. dgw is just reporting on foundation's reporting and offering the opinion that it's whack. No name calling. No slander. Just keeping it real from where I sit😅

[@curtisridenour]

Haha, they forgot FPO. Foundation is trash.

[@joshuabarnett7128]

Foundation said why their daily recaps didn't include the FPO. It's no biggie

[@CoachLoganD]

It was awesome to see you at worlds. Thanks for the great recap on all the things I missed because I spent all my time at hole 7 of Ivy Hill.

[@zanierrules]

14 has the problem of good shots being punished in addition to bad shots. Same with hole 10 downhill. For those holes they need to not have OB, or have the fairways / greens lined with haybales to prevent super far roll-aways. But it's exactly what you'd expect from an amateur course designer. "So this hole we're gonna have the basket on a 70 degree slope, the green will be all rocks, and there's going to be a ton of unnecessary OB nearby too. If you land within 15 feet of the basket you WILL be punished"

[@fodank]

But once you're there and playing, are you going to gamble that you won't get a rollaway and play the hole as though the challenge/predicament/conundrum doesn't exist and thus risk the very thing you fear might happen....or are you going to come up with a plan to avoid the possibility and then execute that plan? Are you going to be a smart disc golfer or are you going to just play as normal and hope the breaks go your way? To win the tournament you must navigate every hole for five days and score less than everyone else. With that being said and knowing you're going to have three shots at hole fourteen, why not play it to take the rollaway out of the equation. (Proctor's was a 'don't hit the pole too hard from three feet thing. Nothing to do with the hole design.) Drive in bounds, approach to whatever spot favours your best layup to fifteen feet, tap in and drive on. Want the birdie? Make the putt or risk the punishment. It's NOT rocket science, it is what is is. A smart disc golfer has a plan and a good disc golfer then executes it. It's not the arrow, it's the archer. Players that let that hole get into their heads are not thinking about the big picture. Armchair quarterbacks complaining about that hole seem to forget that every player has a choice about how to play it. Disc golf is not a game of 'how' but of 'how many'. You chose to play? Then deal with what the course demands or do not, but no matter what you decide, stop whining about it.

[@clifffield1]

I have to admit, having a World Championship Tournament, with this much OB, seems somewhat "manufactured". So many of those 'OB' shots were far from poor shots and it feels a bit cruel. I know that "the course is the course and it's the same for everyone", I just feel that there's a point where there is such a thing as 'stupid' or 'silly' course design. Amazing to see such high OB throw counts.

[@romanpfarrhofer]

I am not a fan of artificial OB. It's difficult for both players and viewers to see, and it often compensates for a property that isn't well-suited for a disc golf course. However, I do understand the need for OB lines to separate crowds from the fairway, mainly for safety reasons. I'm also fine with using OB lines to add a special challenge on a few holes. But if you need 1,200 OB stakes, maybe it's time to reconsider! Regarding Ivy: For a ball golf course, it was enjoyable to watch due to the elevation changes. However, hole 14 had overly random ground play-it needed at least some roll-away protection within C2.

[@markmcgarity]

exactly. all for more spectators(cash)..it's boring to watch and sucks to play too..keep disc golf where it belongs, in the woods. if you need miles of rope and stakes, it's a crappy course/design.

[@adrphilli]

My friends came over to watch the final round and had never watched Disc Golf before. They loved it and said it was way better than watching normal golf. To an outsider, I'm saying, the variety made it interesting and fun.

[@urbaniv]

I think both courses were awesome to watch

[@TheWunshot]

I didn't watch fpo, but the amount of c1 misses leaves nobody room to complain about a course design. Make your puts. Anyone, male or female can make c1 puts with enough practice.

[@TheWunshot]

Also, there was barely any wind....

[@darreno9874]

Disc golf network has been a disaster with all the stats and scoring problems, the blank fairways instead of adverts and now the appaling quality of the output, I only watch Jomez, except I refuse to watch a man play in the fpo.

[@OhioCardVault]

As a new disc golfer who was a professional ball golfer, I thoroughly enjoy the similarities and the differences between the 2 sports. But one aspect for me that leaves me scratching my head is why scores exceeding -10 in a single round seem to be more the norm instead of the exception. The expectation in a Major tournament for ball golf is absolutely absurd difficulty. -8, -10 after 4 days is usually at the top of the heap while this same score in 4 days of disc golf is like having the entire field lap you. The scaling is so different it is hard to fathom. Just my 2 cents. Still thoroughly enjoying the disc golf learning experience.

[@cannons4789]

$15 hotdogs? Oh my, good lord.

[@chislicer5167]

It better come with a bloody mary underneath and a cheeseburger on top, all held together with a skewer.. and a side of fries.

[@RiffRaffOD]

These are top pro’s of their game, courses should be hard. Everyone should have their own opinion to be heard but these pro’s need to suck it up! -37 down isnt enough for these players?! Pretty boring to see players just be able to throw wide open shots with no troubles any where. The on course drama from not so good shots or shots that were do or die are fun to watch. Seeing the same few arm always win week after week gets old. All these pros should be hitting landing zones or penalized if not. I thought the course was great to watch. Its ok to challenge the players and its ok for the loud mouths to have an opinion of dis-like.

[@flyingfishsurf]

Proof that you don't have to putt for dough when playing rope-a-dope disc golf.

[@_mcdrew]

Has anyone asked Nate Heinold how much money he made as TD of worlds after awarding it to himself? Maybe that should be more of a focus in the complains about how it was run.

[@darrellgoodenow5662]

The complaint department must be so busy. All I hear is entitled people complaining that things are too tough. Life's tough, get a helmet.

[@Chris.Davies]

"It's the same for everyone" is the absolute dumbest possible position. Using that idea (and yours) it's perfectly legitimate to create a 200 metre long hole in a bamboo forest, with a 1-metre-wide path as a '"fairway". Your Dunning-Kruger Effect is showing.

[@samhowl1152]

​@@Chris.Daviesno one cares Chris. No one. Not your imaginary friend and not your mom. Go take a bath and get out of the basement

[@darrellgoodenow5662]

@@Chris.Davies your simping is showing.

[@spencerplunkett9920]

I wouldn’t say evilina was handed the victory she straight up won that shit but kat also lost it- she could have really put the nails in the coffin for the field but missed to many c1 putts late and wayy to many errant throws

[@user-js1gd8fl2v]

I guess. You could the same thing about Evilena's putting because she missed several of shorts putts as well. If anyone handed her the victory (wich i disagree, she earned it) it was Holyn. She had a pretty big lead and she landed O.B like 20 times in the final round

[@MichaelSweet-nn5bg]

You guys really, really need to interview John Houck. He is still the premier DG course designer, and he LOATHES artificial OB lines. Which is the only correct opinion on the subject.

[@bufo1034]

Nah, they're fine, be precise or get fucked. Luck is a miniscule factor, they're elite and elite+ level players for a reason

[@victorferri4288]

Again proving my point, why on earth would any one pay more to watch disc golf in shit quality on a shit app then ANY other sport with good quality and good apps. FUCK DGN and the PDGA, everyone should pirate everything from them until they give us our money's worth.

[@cashedrites]

You guys should do a thing on Haley King and what she said about racist cities in America or whatever, I hope she knows that racism is being kept alive by people like her

[@earlthomas6295]

Better not tell her she lives in North Carolina, a former Confederate state

[@erikstewart3415]

Lots of woke newbs on tour

[@nickmarin7249]

You guys always throw shade at foundation. thank you for standing up for FPO. Drama kings of Dg and White Knights. Yall should get t shirts

[@AllenMiller-zj9bg]

Hey, I’ve thrown over houses before too. Okay, not on purpose, but…

[@kevinsmith5202]

Grow the sport………. by firing shots at other dg content creators. Trevor and Hunter cover fpo on their grip locked podcast every single week. So they only recapped mpo during worlds. Who f’n cares! It’s their channel. It’s not “bullshit”. Just because somebody chose to put out content that you guys don’t agree with doesn’t necessarily make it “bullshit”. Seriously, do better! Be better!

[@seymourglass26]

It's Worlds (biggest tournament) and in their literal backyard. Kind of a dumb time to take a vacation on FPO if you're a PRO in disc golf content. I agree with "Do better! Be better!" but maybe in a different way.

[@TheJ387]

@@seymourglass26 Look at the Jomez numbers for “interest” in FPO. 20k views for FPO final round at Idlewild and 150k views for MPO. It’s not as popular and a podcast shouldn’t be forced to cover it if they don’t want to. I’m glad they left it out. I always skip past it anyways.

[@seymourglass26]

​@@TheJ387 Nobody forced anyone. It's just that not doing a full job makes you an amateur. They've clearly been cutting corners on a lot of their content lately, which may or may not matter in the long run. The cynical (aka marketing) idea is that by getting more women involved in disc golf, you sell more shit, regardless of who's good or not. In a game of just dollars and cents, it's a good investment, even if it's the less popular product. But for the record, I'm not knocking the women. They all can shred compared to most the people we know, and if I had more time I'd probably learn more strategy from watching their game than watching AB throw 600 feet.

[@tonitoivanen2315]

I'm looking forward to meeting you guys in Finland 🤩

[@StuG-pr9tf]

I thought journalism was just supposed to be about stating facts...?? and facts only? not giving your opinion...I guess that line is now blurred

[@chislicer5167]

It's a really bad sign the DGPT is trying to grab cash the way they are. It's pretty clear they need short term revenue to stay afloat. The MUCH wiser decision would be to invest in ways that bring more viewers, thus creating more opportunity for advertising dollars. It would be the long game, but it would be way more lucrative. I think next season is going to really be a bust... I invest in DGN hoping to grow the quality, but it ain't happening. Overall, I'm not as excited about watching coverage as I used to back in salad days of Jomez, GK Pro, Gatekeeper Media, and Ace Run Pro... literally getting lead and chase card post production from both MPO and FPO + we had live coverage. Even last season, Gatekeeper had the Two Hot Geese FPO coverage coming out SAME DAY... which was epic, and led me to watching ALL the FPO action instead of just some. DGN and DGPT are blowing it super hard.

[@MonkeyFreeZone]

"I only had elevation and I had out of bounds". Great reason to not use the course. Hated how the Ivy Hill course put a premium largely on a single skill: accurate distance. Worlds should test all skills and remove luck from the equation as much as possible, hole 14. Oh, and sorry, lefties.

[@CoffeeonKorriban]

No one has any ground to stand on complaining about baskets, slopes, or courses when a man is still allowed to steal money from actual women.

[@swarleystinson2344]

Who cares. As long as the top fpo players are 3-putting c1 gimmes, their side of the sport is irrelevant. I hope it gets invaded by men and children to the point that they have to change the name to what it has deserved to be called all along, amateur division.

[@cashedrites]

@@CoffeeonKorriban for real why is this not the story every time that monster is allowed to compete against women, and then the commentators talk about its power, yeah because it's a guy

[@Jas019]

you people are sad and gross

[@erikstewart3415]

This is the correct take. These woke boys that run this show clearly are ok with it.

[@TheWunshot]

Dude....I bought a hotdog from a vendor in front of Lowe's and it was $15. I felt like I was living in the future.

[@markmcgarity]

did someone twist your arm to buy bits n' pieces of pig or cow?

[@benjaminrro583]

I thought ivy hill was amazing from a fan viewing perspective

[@michaeljohnson-bq8mu]

This was a boring world's to watch. Worst courses I've ever seen.

[@thefriesens1071]

I thought the courses were alright, but not great. Part of it is that Isaac plays shutdown course management golf when he gets the lead, and he's so good at it, it's boring. 😂 But don't fret. Next year's worlds are at the Monster and the Beast. That will be epic!

[@danielmccachern2307]

I wonder if Drew Gibson has voiced his concerns directly to Nate Heinold. Usually he is pretty receptive to criticism. At Ledgestone, I listened to Gannon and Calvin talk to him during a backup about the B pin on hole 13. I'm guessing if the B pin comes into play next year, there will be some adjustments on the back fairway or the pin will be moved closer. In general, I would say Heinold is a fantastic TD and a pretty good pro tour course designer. I wasn't crazy about many of the Ivy hill holes, but the main problem is it was the first tour event there. This is the first chance for feedback.

[@player_NTG]

Disc golf is flopping hard, it’s got no money in it, and the companies are pumping the players for profit

[@tonykaze]

Honestly blows my mind hearing FPO complain about having to throw 350ft. I've seen 8 year old girls throw 350 feet. I've seen amateur adult females throw easy 450+. I'm not here to be a bully but she's resting way too much on being amazing at putting. If she can't throw 350 at the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP then it's just a skill issue, period.

[@roddinandracin1153]

Ignoring the FPO is bad, in my opinion the FPO has been more competitive than MPO this season

[@reedmecum8966]

Was there a used section at the mart? I don’t buy new plastic.

[@happywithpar]

That final clip LMAOO

[@hippietone]

Fpo should have their own weekend, MPO next weekend

[@DG69GOD]

We need a Disc Golf World vs Foundation doubles match to decide who can talk sh*t about who 🤣 PS don't piss off Foundation fanboys, they're like Swifties

[@JustinWayneDawg]

We need some normal people to start covering disc golf news. This channel is terrible.

[@henrihell]

Hit up the organizers next year for possibly at least a free place to sleep to cut down cost. We volunteers have been sleeping in the nearby school at EO and I'd be surprised if you're not allowed there as well. All you need is an air mattress, pillows and bed sheets. Hell, I can bring extra sheets, pillows, and possibly an extra air mattress if you need it. Of course this is all in case the sleeping arrangements are the same.

[@robthecollector8905]

People complaining on the internet? You don't say. Pro or not, a lot of people are babies.

[@dylanhauser8626]

Frick Ezra’s course record on the final day I guess

[@amckay2266]

i'm gonna play devils advocate for a second...i know drew is asking for professionals to design the course...but what criteria is there in place to define what a professional course designer is? I think it's all interpretive either way. yea they made some dumb holes, but that could happen anywhere no matter who the designer is. Problem is it will never satisfy everyone no matter how they design it. Putting the amount of pin placements on sloped greens was terrible. Nobody wants to see someone lose due to a roll away like niklas did. at least it took him out of what would've been a great finish.

[@fodank]

So you're not going to mention the man playing in FPO?

[@markmcgarity]

old news, dude's been playing against women for years

[@TheWunshot]

I loved those holes. Punish bad shots.

[@captainsage2444]

Thats the worst putt roller ive ever seen lol

[@user-zr7sm5mq6o]

The New London Course was Awesome Good. The OB Course gave me a headache, (let`s not do that again). Congratulations to Isaac and Eveliina. They Earned those Victories. And, I still got time to get in a round today.

[@brianguinn7463]

Ty

[@coreyjansen9033]

I think AB went over a house to cut a corner on a hole at the memorial this year too.

[@tattooedjohnson]

Robinson was not gonna be caught. Antila would've still need a miracle

[@TheBasedFarmer]

I don't know about the rest of you folks but I'm about sick of hearing all these so called professionals whine about every single tournament and what's wrong with it. Luck is a part of every sport pretty much, get over it.

[@Steve-hv1bg]

While I was spectating some TDs said turn off phones... i was like noty. fuck DGN

[@daemonblackfyre2.049]

11:39. The moment I decided you don't people clicking on you videos. never again clowns.

[@davidlasky214]

that whole take of theirs was weak and then that weird aggressive insult was pretty awful. that moment really stuck out for me as crap as well.

[@markmcgarity]

can you edit that so we can understand what you are trying to say?

[@victorferri4288]

Also calling out some people for not covering FPO is a fucking coward's move. Why are you trying to stir drama where there is none. They have every right to cover FPO or not, its not the law that they have too??? Not only that FPO was a total shit show, I have never stopped watching FPO so quickly, it was full of poor decision making and OB throw after OB throw; boring and embarrassing.

[@netposerx]

Women crying about a particular hole while a man is in their division. 😂😂😂

[@scottdavis9006]

Oh you most certainly are “that guy”.

[@harleybk3]

Isaac and Ezra keep making me forget that the community wants me to believe that Prodigy discs suck.

[@maxfieldnelson]

they lack consistently. isaac and ezra have unlimited access to any disc with any amount of wear on it. I bought two M4's at once before i stopped buying prodigy. One of them flew amazingly, the other one basically became a roller disc after a few weeks. granted, this was a few years ago.

[@lasagna1534]

1:01 love me some good virtue signaling

[@seymourglass26]

It's Worlds. If there's ever a time to talk both sides, it's literally the biggest tournament of the year. I guess you just don't like women. I guess, that's your life, so I'll try not to judge.

[@lasagna1534]

@@seymourglass26 bro replies to a comment about virtue signaling by virtue signaling. You just can’t make this stuff up lol

[@seymourglass26]

@@lasagna1534 You don't know what any of those words mean. Covering the biggest tournament in the world fully is just basic journalism, you stain of a human.

[@ViJt-oq5nq]

Foundation literally started with FPO in today's podcast...

[@mattpipke5716]

I subscribed and supported everything dgn and the pro tour did from the very start until last year. I didn't re subscribe this year, because they don't seem to get better, they make choices and even when they don't work out or we don't like them, they just run with them anyway. When you send them feedback, rather than listen they get defensive and double down on their stance and that really stinks, they made a few changes early on that I still dislike and that make the viewing less fun and more frustrating and after making that clear they just say, oh well, deal with it, I say if you depend on my money to make this work, I have some say, if you make a change I really do not like and it ruins the experience for me, and it isn't necessary then you should at the very least ask the Community and go with what the majority of your subscribers agree too, since they are the ones supporting your efforts. Early on it was the way they displayed the scores and names of the players, when they changed that it was confusing and most of the time you can't see the score relative to the rest of the field and the competitors close to the player you are watching, the change really screwed this up. When I asked about it a few times and explained why it stinks and how it is affecting our viewing enjoyment, they basically said oh well, too bad, so I stopped supporting them. I think after 4 or 5 years if you can't figure out how to get a good broadcast out, you can't be charging for it and can't be upping those charges, if anything, offer it for free until you accomplish two things, get it right and rebuild membership by offering it for free for a limited time, and that time is until you can broadcast the whole event without packet loss, glitches or anomalies with the broadcast, many others broadcast live all the time, tune in and ask for help.

[@abfutrell]

Concessions were cheaper at the U.S. Open in Pinehurst.

[@juanbernal2047]

Love me OTB! Only place to buy discs online.

[@booknikYT]

Me... Oh that car is 100' away. I better skip this hole. AB I'm going to throw this disc over a three story house 200 feet away.

[@kitpalencar5165]

the course fuckin' sucks just accept it it's boring as hell

[@sotello9171]

And this video is just a reminder of why i unsubbed to your channel. L video

[@JamesG761]

2:25 just being honest, thats a skill issue, not being able to throw that distance while on tour. That just shows how low the bar is for the FPO

[@josh1549]

It's not supposed to be easy it's a world championship. If it's too hard and too challenging you're not championship material

[@ryanjohnson9620]

we all know where the money went. . .

[@PcCAvioN]

Crybabies. If youre a professional and you cant handle difficult courses then what are you doing there? Their egos cant handle not birdieing every hole? The frustration and bs is 80% of disc golf. I do agree the hole 14 pushouts were brutal

[@Discannons]

The disc golf community is the biggest bunch of whiners and instigators I’ve ever seen

[@TheSafeJourney]

Let’s be real, there is a man playing in the FPO, why talk about a mixed open?

[@LetsDGBogeyFree]

I believe hole 14 decided Worlds this year for MPO. Two stroke swing that late for an almost perfect putt was insane and mentally exhausting.

[@markmcgarity]

it was far from a perfect putt. it was nose up with hyzer AND hit high, those rarely stay in

[@reasonmattersmost]

Please just go away if you are a foundation fan boy. This channel calls out all silliness everywhere. And foundation is basically 90% silliness. Brody brought disc golf down a level.

[@markmcgarity]

amazing to me some people think he is good for disc golf!

[@urbaniv]

Sorry but I get tired of this. Every video is artificial drama Stopped watching your videos because of that. I wanna see discgolf and not the complaints of some people hyped up to a video

[@marcgrimes3823]

I really wish y'all would play relevant clips to what you're talking about instead of random shit the whole time. If you're talking about a specific shot, why not play that shot?

[@ThomasDercole2230]

Lol, punish bad shots and reward good shots.

[@moonshineorv7962]

OK, I’ll start by saying I like your videos and I think you guys are funny. So I’m not sure how to take the first part of this video as satire or serious? These are the top players in the entire world and they are constantly complaining about how the courses are not difficult enough for them. But then they get one hole with a little bit of a runaway or a tiny bit of difficulty or distance and then it’s get a new course designer because this course sucks. I’d like to come and play at one of my local courses if they can’t thread the needle between the trees, I don’t care how far they’re gonna bogey every hole.

[@nickwhaley7892]

The problem is that it is mostly luck to stay on the hills. Did you see new London and the tee shots??? The gaps are so small and no one was complaining about that. Fundamental way tougher holes.

[@donkarnage6032]

Heavy woods = blurry video quality How many times do we have to see the same thing over and over again before people catch on? I’m honestly kind of tired of hearing people complain about it. I totally get it. The picture quality sucks but whining every other week isn’t going to magically make the cell phone networks that DGN uses any better. It is simply one of the pitfalls of the current technology.

[@TimberrethDPT]

Why do you keep talking about the rope? In videos past, We always talk about poorly defined OB. Now that we have nicely defined OB that is easy to see as a viewer we are complaining about too much rope? Makes no sense. Either way, still a big fan of y’all’s videos, but disagree with most of the takes on this one.

[@thrildmedia8798]

Foundation fan bois incoming!

[@Darb__]

Ivy hill is the most boring course I have seen all year. Really sad that we have to hold our most prestigious tournament at a course like that. Got to see the worst parts of disc golf out there. Thanks Nate!

[@turnoverDG]

in defense of the Foundation guys, they do seem a bit 'Mike Pence-ish', where they aren't aloud to be in a room with a woman who wasn't their wife. They could be just terrified of Evelina

[@laughinginhell]

I will say this again, happy with par is very fake. he is nice and all, at these things for clout but in a tournament setting he is a completely different and will scream and throw tantrums up and down the course when he plays MPO/MA1 at an MA2 level. If he was ever to actually get on coverage I'm sure Clash would not keep him as somehow the US team captain. His brand is not how he carries his self when the camera are off him

[@nathanielholden-f7t]

Foundation fan boys would'nt last long with me and JK

[@AllenMiller-zj9bg]

The length of a course should now be measured by the amount of OB rope used!

[@PrestonAgner-xf5ku]

Dude or Girl

[@adielcerriteno1990]

Constantly using the drama and complaints as the title and entire point of ur videos is getting super old! I wanna support. But all the complaining and drama is annoying af. Can u make the game feel any lamer??

[@redwood20111]

Sorry but when the FPO world champion is somebody who cannot make a 12ft putt then there is no real reason to discuss FPO at all. It just is not something to be even taken seriously, clearly none of the women think so either.

[@bioluminescence2391]

Yikes lost a sub with that foundation dig.