Drama on Hemerdon Bank | 7029 "Clun Castle" stalls on 'The Great Western Railway (1Z48)' 11/05/2024

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TheSoutherner

TheSoutherner

14 күн бұрын

BR(W) 4073 'Castle' Class - 7029 "Clun Castle" would grind to an unfortunate stand on Hemerdon Bank, while working ‘The Great Western (1Z48)’ 60th Anniversary Tour, requiring the aid of BR Class 47 - D1755 / 47773.
The tour, chartered by Vintage Trains, would see 7029 retrace some of the route traversed by the ‘Ian Allen Great Western High Speed Railtour’ of 1964, which had the reporting code of Z48. The original running would become the swansong of ex-GWR mainline steam under British Railways, with the tour working the from London Paddington to Plymouth via Westbury, and back to the capital via Bristol Temple Meads. Four ‘Castle’ Class locomotives were selected to work legs of the tour: 4079 working London - Westbury, 7025 working Taunton - Plymouth, 7029 working Plymouth - Bristol, and 5054 working Bristol to London. 4079 failed at Westbury with melted firebars, with ‘Modified Hall’ Class - 6999 substituting for the leg between Westbury and Taunton. The tour would be famed for some exception high-speed running across the Ex-GWR mainlines with BR making every effort to ensure its success, including the cherry picking of the ‘Castle’ locomotives in order to provide the best of those available, providing two firemen per loco, and obtaining the finest quality Welsh coal available.
This 60th anniversary edition would be split over two days, with 7029 working from Birmingham to Plymouth via Oxford and Bristol on the first day, and then retracing its original allocated route from Plymouth to London over the second day.
Departing Plymouth on time on the second day, 7029 would stall on the harsh 1-in-42 gradient of Hemerdon Bank as it approached the summit, viewable from Ledgate Lane. Class 47 - D1755 / 47773 would then be dispatched from Plymouth to provide assistance. Rumours circulating suggest that lineside foliage caught the butterfly pressure release valves for the vacuum brakes on a couple of the coaches, causing a loss of pressure; enough to drag the brakes on the effected coaches, but not enough to show any indication on the gauges. With no indication of the problems at hand, and assistance immediately available, no attempt was made to restart the train before the 47 arrived.
All footage filmed on Saturday the 11th of May 2024.

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@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 10 күн бұрын
A huge shame that Network Rail's lack of maintenance in allowing branches to foul the loading gauge and clip the roof level brake 'butterflies' (partly putting the brakes on) brought this train to a stand. If the diesel had not been following this would have been far worse.
@Pjs75
@Pjs75 13 күн бұрын
if, big if, proper Welsh steaming coal had been available (no such now) the smoke would not have been thick black & the heat would have been appropriate to this anniversary outing. With the embarrassment of butterfly valves or not. Nb: The southbound steam express services ascending to Whiteball tunnel on Wellington Bank were always ‘banked’ with a steam push from Wellington. My great uncle was Foreman Ganger on the section & lived in the Beam Bridge railway cottages (long since demolished) right next to the bank when I was a child. {That was a thunderous noise for a five year old!}
@paulcaswell2813
@paulcaswell2813 13 күн бұрын
I'm an East Coast man, and it would have been so easy to start laughing at the GW; however, I think it was obvious that 7029 had a tenderful of bug dust here. The fact that the loco ran at all with that stuff is a miracle.
@flashpoint8909
@flashpoint8909 10 күн бұрын
Bad firing or bad coal or combination, the smoke should never be black, grey a healthy fire
@12crepello
@12crepello 13 күн бұрын
Sorry to say it looks like poor firing or poor coal, maybe a combination of both? A castle should not be smoking like that. Thanks for the video. Excellent! Edit : On reflection though the valves were lifting, so maybe the problem lay elsewhere?
@mikeburnitt403
@mikeburnitt403 12 күн бұрын
What was the maximum load for a Castle up Hemerdon bank back in the day, I will give you a clue, it was one less coach than on this train!
@12crepello
@12crepello 12 күн бұрын
​@@mikeburnitt403 Yes I know, but "back in the day" you would rarely, if ever, see a castle throwing out muck like that! Something was not right.
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 10 күн бұрын
Indeed - read the comments for the reason instead of blaming the wrong things.
@JakeBSteam
@JakeBSteam 13 күн бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing, nice to see the drama I missed. 🙂
@TheSouthernerYTChannel
@TheSouthernerYTChannel 11 күн бұрын
Thank you
@GreatBritishRailways1
@GreatBritishRailways1 12 күн бұрын
Nicely captured. Regards, John
@TheSouthernerYTChannel
@TheSouthernerYTChannel 11 күн бұрын
Thank you
@Railfanner12
@Railfanner12 13 күн бұрын
Nice video man! As usual threat content from the southerner
@TheSouthernerYTChannel
@TheSouthernerYTChannel 11 күн бұрын
Thank you
@brianeynon5406
@brianeynon5406 11 күн бұрын
Good old brush 47s in an emergency !!
@gunterbartsch9284
@gunterbartsch9284 13 күн бұрын
❤ TOP JOB ❤️
@fredscratchet1355
@fredscratchet1355 13 күн бұрын
Hemerdon, wrecker of trains. What a shame, such a valiant effort but it was not to be, still excellent work for a 74 year old though👍
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 10 күн бұрын
It wasn't the bank that did it, it was branches clipping coach roof level brake 'butterflies', partly applying the brakes.
@user-bq2go4hs3v
@user-bq2go4hs3v 9 күн бұрын
My dad used to say one ton of. Coal to get up hemerdon bank
@thecornishsteamtrain123
@thecornishsteamtrain123 13 күн бұрын
Great video and I assume u saw Steam to the West there too as he got a video of the same thing. I saw her depart Plymouth and she seemed fine
@bobingram6912
@bobingram6912 13 күн бұрын
Heart in the mouth moment, I can relax now!!! Why no tail end charlie in the first place?? Nicely done Matthew
@Matty_1843
@Matty_1843 12 күн бұрын
Two reasons: 1. A big selling point for this tour was lack of diesel assistance, 47773 was supposed to follow the train without being attached to it all the way to London. I don't personally care about this, since assisting diesels are normally only there for shunting purposes and only push when they have to, such as situations like this one, as well as the diesels typically matching the train and being heritage locomotives in their own right, but there's a good amount of vocal people that do take issue with them being on there and it not being there ensures the Castle is completely unassisted to anyone who would otherwise doubt. 2. Even if this wasn't the case, the South Devon Banks have very strict load requirements for steam specifically because of situations like this. The Castle's maximum permitted load over the South Devon Banks unassisted is 9, which is what it has here, 7 passenger coaches + the GUV water carrier and Support Coach for 9 coaches total. It would've barely made it over the top anyway, dragging brakes were enough to make it stall. The 47's weight would push it over that unassisted limit.
@mikeburnitt403
@mikeburnitt403 12 күн бұрын
@@Matty_1843 I thought Castles were 8 coaches and Kings were 9?
@mikeburnitt403
@mikeburnitt403 12 күн бұрын
47773 was following the Charter just in case this happened, it was sorted very quickly with zero affect on any other operators services.
@Matty_1843
@Matty_1843 12 күн бұрын
Nope, Castles can have 9, that's the load 7029 has here. I think it's different depending on if it's a single or double chimney one, so 5029 might be limited to Load 8 but 7029 and 5043 can take 9.
@TheSouthernerYTChannel
@TheSouthernerYTChannel 11 күн бұрын
@bobingram6912 One of the selling points for the tour was the fact it would be unassisted over the Devon banks in both directions. Thankfully, Vintage Trains do keep their Class 47 nearby on excursions should something like this occur. Cheers!
@SimonTog
@SimonTog 12 күн бұрын
Good video :)
@TheSouthernerYTChannel
@TheSouthernerYTChannel 11 күн бұрын
Thank you
13 күн бұрын
Looking at the black smoke that's not Welsh anthracite coal 🤔
@mikeburnitt403
@mikeburnitt403 12 күн бұрын
Where can you get Welsh anthracite coal these days?
@rodneycooperLMSCoach
@rodneycooperLMSCoach 13 күн бұрын
Safety valves were lifting so what was the problem?
@Watermillfilms
@Watermillfilms 13 күн бұрын
Once you stop on the steepest part of the hill you’ll never be able to get started with a heavy load. I guess.
@davidbailey533
@davidbailey533 12 күн бұрын
Two of carriages had dragging brakes caused by vegetation sticking out further back
@rodneycooperLMSCoach
@rodneycooperLMSCoach 12 күн бұрын
@@davidbailey533 NR ought to be ashamed of themselves. Saw entrance to Lime Street the other day and it looked like a jungle. Goodness knows how much longer those walls will last.
@edwardshirley9314
@edwardshirley9314 13 күн бұрын
I know how it feels!
@stevengrimshaw8072
@stevengrimshaw8072 11 күн бұрын
Love that reply
@philipkay8116
@philipkay8116 11 күн бұрын
I know that Hemerdon is a challenge but a class 7 loco with nine on should get up there fairly easily.
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 10 күн бұрын
Yes, unless the brakes are applied by tree branches, then there is no chance.
@liwanda8114
@liwanda8114 12 күн бұрын
The drivers and firemen have not got the experience of learning the footplate as they did in steam days. No comparison with heritage rail driving or doing it part time.
@loco42041
@loco42041 11 күн бұрын
Nothing to do with footplate? It's to do with something known as Route Knowledge? Not enough.
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 10 күн бұрын
How does route knowledge overcome the physics of brakes being inadvertantly applied, I wonder.
@keithjackman8886
@keithjackman8886 11 күн бұрын
Wow! Stuck and only pulling nine coaches. Yeah! Wrong type of coal I expect.
@TheSouthernerYTChannel
@TheSouthernerYTChannel 11 күн бұрын
Rumours circulating suggest that lineside foliage caught the butterfly pressure release valves for the vacuum brakes on a couple of the coaches, causing a loss of pressure; enough to drag the brakes on the effected coaches.
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 10 күн бұрын
Wrong type of assumption.
@simonal1989
@simonal1989 13 күн бұрын
How long was the delay?
@TheSouthernerYTChannel
@TheSouthernerYTChannel 11 күн бұрын
Roughly 30 minutes
@djburland
@djburland 13 күн бұрын
The cloud of black smoke is a clue as to what went wrong here!
@Gingeonrails
@Gingeonrails 13 күн бұрын
Agreed… over fired
@TheSouthernerYTChannel
@TheSouthernerYTChannel 13 күн бұрын
Raising enough steam to lift the valves though
@user-cw9qn1nb2n
@user-cw9qn1nb2n 12 күн бұрын
And what we don't know is what happened in the 10 minutes before you see the engine. Was there a signal check further back that ruined their run at the bank? That could also account for it, because a Class 7 engine should be capable of taking 9 coaches up Hemerdon with little trouble.
@spencergreen6980
@spencergreen6980 11 күн бұрын
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