Drama Response

This is the greatest drama response video of All Time
I stream every day / moistcr1tikal

[@Jupiter-el2mp]

Cr1tikal is the embodiment of what we think we could've said in the argument while in the shower.

[@SweetTodd]

Oh, that's so true!

[@nikoya9382]

couldn’t have worded it better

[@irlhimbo5595]

i have a sneaking suspension that he plans his response videos, goes into the shower and comes out with a new, better script

[@Truck-kun_01]

@@irlhimbo5595 perhaps the reason why he looks moist in every video

[@Krewnn]

@@Truck-kun_01 oh my god your right

[@JakeTehSnake]

A guy who always wears white t-shirts and a guy who always wears black tank tops. This drama was bound to happen.

[@MbitaChizi]

Charles is my inspiration, my parents said if I get 5K likes on my *"Easy On Me"* Cover They'd definitely buy me a better mic for recording, *Begging you guys, literally begging*

[@hentaihokage1347]

Jesus vs Devil

[@kotomishione]

i remember that charlie had a black shirt once but who cares

[@karama5562]

@@kotomishione that was the dark Charlie arc this is his redemption

[@charleysimmons427]

It was a conflict bound by fate itself

[@Klaw808]

Charlie saying "he's right" and rectifying the notions he misunderstood is a quality missing from a lot of content creators and is very respectable and sorely missed as a viewer

[@lurg5049]

Pride, and the ability to swallow it.

[@Rezora06]

honestly it’s a quality missing from just a lot of people sadly

[@annoyingguy9939]

@@Rezora06 Sad to say it but you're right.

[@Rezora06]

@@annoyingguy9939 sad indeed, friend

[@HopeyDiamond]

Sad

[@connerscott2687]

Charlie making me tear up at the end there, talking passionately about all the things he works on. You can hear how upset he is that he's been reduced to a react streamer, and the implication that all his work is for nothing, and him doing minimal effort stuff is better than doing what makes him happy.

[@elizegood7722]

right!? maybe i’m just an overly sensitive person but hearing him say that people saying that hurts & you can actually hear the hurt in his voice really upset me.. i even pouted & made a sad face unconsciously. it’s sad but really, it just shows that people aren’t really doing their research on him at all & that’s _their_ problem which they shouldn’t be putting on Charlie at all!

[@alucardzutain6062]

AND he does Reaction. Question: If youre so talented and wholesome, like Charlie, why still do React-Content? Because its easy to Stream and reaupload. If someone would be honest about it, then yes, they dont get reduced to it.

[@poggerz6567]

@@alucardzutain6062 PewDiePie has react content, markiplier has react content, even jacksepticeye has react content. Are they considered reaction KZbinrs? No they're not, just because they've made react content before doesn't mean they are reaction KZbinrs, like Charlie they're not bound to one specific type of content

[@gvd72]

@@poggerz6567 To be fair Charlie does react quite a bit more than say Markiplier or Jacksepticeye

[@thebotdestroyer852]

@@gvd72 Yes but he is not a reaction only streamer. He makes his own content and that, my dear friend, is something you cannot debate me on.

[@Brian-dd2df]

You can tell how passionate Charlie is by how fast he’s talking.

[@coolguyinc.1555]

That’s honestly true

[@danielpearse9875]

@@coolguyinc.1555 RACE WAR!

[@coolguyinc.1555]

@@danielpearse9875 🤨📸

[@burga8836]

He is really good at wording things off the top of his head

[@kit-kattbar1778]

U got some comments in ur bots

[@tuv]

as one of the people that charlie has reacted to and posted on the channel, I can say that he's incredibly transformative with his reactions and gives his audience a ton of new information. He doesn't just copy and paste people's videos, he GENUINELY adds so much more the the topic he's watching. Not only that, but he goes out of his way to research while reacting. This isn't a jinx type of scenario (remember him?). I just wanted to say that. hope all is well.

[@NeonTopHats]

oh, hi tuv :)

[@________3359]

Hello tuv

[@krisjams3547]

Tuvpog

[@catffiend]

Tuv is the man 💙🖤💙🖤

[@dawgimchillen]

luv u tuv

[@jediorsith24]

I hate the argument of "you should have waited for me to make the video" when he could have waited to post the article when he had the video ready, instead of posting the article and getting mad when people misinterpreted it.

[@jogger2022]

What i really like about charlie is that when he gets something wrong he acts like the bigger man and admits it and doesn’t make up some bs excuses.

[@GoldenNinja50]

Instead of making a video dancing like some KZbinrs, Charlie just admits hes wrong, thats why he is so great.

[@wqeqweqwewq7271]

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[@wqeqweqwewq7271]

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[@wqeqweqwewq7271]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqq3epZ8jtl8h5Y DARK VIPER'S FANS ATTACKING CHARLIE

[@wqeqweqwewq7271]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqq3epZ8jtl8h5Y DARK VIPER'S FANS ATTACKING CHARLIE

[@wqeqweqwewq7271]

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[@9arm.]

This is a masterclass, Charlie. I learned a lot about how to navigate internet arguments from this video.

[@NattyNattaNattakit]

Wait a minute…

[@lucamartin2278]

Commentiquite?

[@_Aspartes]

didn't expect to see potential candidate of MDES here

[@nacnano]

Holy 9arm

[@kasen338]

Honestly he’s super good at doing it without escalating it either

[@thehungwolf4195]

The last part of this video is why I like Charlie so much. You can hear the passion when he's talking about his channel and is genuinely upset to hear people say his old content is better. much respect

[@Pepsi_Man_Max]

Fucking hell I can't believe the whole "angry" KZbinr rant characters are still a thing. How do people hear DarkViper rant like this and not just get irritated by it?

[@hobobehindarbys3785]

He usually isn’t a rant KZbinr He usually just plays GTA and streams it

[@Pepsi_Man_Max]

@@hobobehindarbys3785 I would watch his clips channel a lot but recently he's been turning into an angry ranting person a lot

[@victorleese9491]

Cuz the rant is a way to vent for them. They can't get over their failures and choose to then shit on others or attempt to shit on others who are doing better than them.

[@mozuwu44]

soo true lmao @pepsi man

[@gabrieleporru4443]

That's a good question...see....it seems like there could be countless answers and none of them would be actually satisfactory, but in reality the answer it's always the same: they think they're justified. That's it, they think they are ranting about something that deserves the rant, and people justify, even get passionate about being violently opposed to things when they want to be violently opposed to _something_ ..Idk, feel like I might even *get violently opposed to it one day.*

[@tiktokgirls9001]

Seeing Charlie so upset over people thinking he's just a reaction Streamer hurt my heart a little bit.

[@webster-qf6vv]

Same dude, same :(

[@ragechillin6154]

Same hope everyone can reach their dreams 💯

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

It hurts when he is happy doing what he does and people saying that he was much better off back when he was making the laziest content possible.

[@CleroPata]

Yes baby, that's what I'm talking about

[@shanethepainnurbrain]

They aren’t wrong

[@the_alih]

I love how respectful Charlie is. You can tell he's upset but kept his composure as he discussed him points. He's a great role model.

[@TreeFlob]

Your right

[@stxrb_xy]

@The TacoCat y'all going like mock 10 with these bots goddam.

[@whocares9033]

Go beg somewhere else, scrub

[@stxrb_xy]

@Mbita Acoustic Guitar Nah Your uncle Will touch you 😳

[@stxrb_xy]

@@whocares9033 Hes Ali A Youngers Brother "Ali H"

[@flinnjr1593]

i’ve been a part of your channel for years, your content definitely isn’t lazy. not even in the checklist days. your content is simple, and always has been which i’d imagine would be difficult considering it’s obvious that you’ve been putting more work into your vids. i love the simplicity, as many others do, and you’ve kept it for a long time despite small changes to your persona and pretty big changes to your content. you’ve done great, O Lord Moist. i wouldn’t trust anybody more with my drink.

[@bobmango8472]

it is lazy. lazy content is not a bad thing if its good. stop the cap and just accept it

[@flinnjr1593]

@@bobmango8472 if you can manage to sit in front of a computer screen literally 24/7 and record videos, edit the videos, then plan and make and edit the next video, upload every day and still find upwards of 2 hours in the day to do a full stream, all while managing an esports team and a warehouse, creating and shipping merchandise, and somehow trying to maintain a social life with his friends AND sustain a relationship, lazy is the last thing your work needs to be called. it’s good to be critical of your favorite creators and it’s not like i’m oblivious to the fact that his videos don’t require a lotta effort to make, but if that’s the content he wants to make then he’s doing it. that’s not being lazy. being overcritical is what makes people make drastic changes to their content that the majority of their fans won’t enjoy.

[@peachaboo6180]

@@bobmango8472 His videos aren’t lazy, if they were he wouldn’t go back and do stuff like hours of research, also he was alive during the events of almost everything he’s talked about. He’s been there, he’s got a clear picture and he also makes very diverse content like vlogs, gameplays, and more than just reactions lol. Far from lazy

[@bobmango8472]

@@peachaboo6180 Ah, yes. Hours of research which ended up with him making countless apology videos for being wrong. And especially "being alive." You know, perhaps i might be somewhat of a researcher myself? I'll just tell them that i'm alive, that'll work.

[@davidgeorge3944]

@@bobmango8472 you know.. I’m somewhat of a scientist (researcher) myself lol 😂

[@mollykircher3104]

My mom used to say this thing to me when I was a teen. "People hold on to the version of you they can control." They try to put you into boxes to make sure they have power over you. That seems like it could explain why he keeps referring to you as just a react streamer when you're so much more.

[@mollykircher3104]

@DarkL0rd_Helix okay.

[@skinnykid8524]

Wow, you blew my mind with that. Your moms a freaking genius.

[@tenkomari2391]

I see that

[@derangedsockpuppet678]

idk man he is a streamer that primarily do react contents

[@Manivilization]

he is a streamer who reacts to content

[@nexoq4914]

That's a pure example where YT dislikes would be a decent overview of community thoughts on this....

[@C.A.A.1911]

no it would not, DarkViper has less followers

[@noidea4649]

153.745 Likes vs 3600 dislikes as of February 10th.

[@nate186]

it would still be helpful as long as viewers from either side can forego bias

[@thedevilhimself1728]

Get the Chrome extension.

[@nate186]

@@thedevilhimself1728 i tried :(

[@purelyorange8428]

Here's to Charlie addressing controversy like an actual adult. Mad respect

[@unusedaccount2590]

Maybe watch the video first

[@biggsV3]

you didnt even watch the video yet

[@b_Wtv14]

This video came out like a minute ago tho (although I don’t doubt he handles it well)

[@humanperson1881]

bruv he just posted lmao, yall so ready to comment without watching first

[@ImaPizzaK]

@@unusedaccount2590 its the video topic

[@CoffeeCupandXul]

I also love his 2010-2015 content but that's when I felt miserable too. I'm his age. At that time I could relate so much to his state of mind. He changed, actually thrived, and so did I. I support personal development because that's what life's all about and why I'm still alive. I don't have to like every video to support the guy and be happy for him. Keep it up Charlie

[@derangedsockpuppet678]

Dude try to relate to people that knows that you exist

[@CoffeeCupandXul]

@@derangedsockpuppet678 ???

[@alanquiq1116]

​@@derangedsockpuppet678why you being toxic for no reason. Of course different figures will resonate with you, even ones that don't know you. Saying they can't is a deranged take derangedsockpuppet

[@derangedsockpuppet678]

@alanquiq1116 yeah you're right I guess i was in shit mood that day not a reason to shit on someone else's day tho my bad

[@alanquiq1116]

@@derangedsockpuppet678 Everyone makes mistakes though, taking accountability is what set people's apart. Have a good one

[@Xeroux]

As a person who's been sexually abused/assaulted I definitely agree with Charlie here, no one should ever compare things like that to sexual abuse, it's not at all the same, even in an exaggerated scenario, it's still just shit. Like dont do that that shit, and if you do or you defend that argument, you are an actual piece of shit. Edit: I won't change what I said before, however I will add this, I was mad in that moment, mad because myself and many others I know that have gone through that stuff would willing rather have someone continuously take pictures of out in public then to ever have that happen. To the people that defend that argument, you aren't pieces of shit, but you are despicable, and I genuinely hope you find someway to see how this could hurt people. Sexual assault and people's pictures being taken without consent are not comparable, they are not similar in any other sense than lack of consent, but that lack consents effects are drastically different, one leaves someone broken, feeling disgusted with themselves, not being able to look in the mirror, shattered at the thought of someone touching them again intimately, wondering if it will ever happen again, and sometimes ultimately leading to suicide... the other is an unwanted picture. The news literally does this on a regular basis. Even your favourite youtubers have probably done it at some point. And you can say "Oh well he meant the ones that shove cameras in people's faces" but the whole point was consent of picture being taken and its comparable to sexual assault, but it's not.

[@36OZ]

its people like you who that made me see what this fanbase is really about, blindly following information and believing. I'm sorry you were sexually abused ( really am, that is messed up), but like darkviperau says in the response, it's a fake situation and won't affect you at all. Because he used that argument does't mean he's for sexual abuse. And the story is so twisted it's insane.

[@atticus07]

@@36OZ I mean darkviperau just made a shitty analogy. no ones asking him to make an hour long, teary apology video, just hey don't say that, cause its kinda fucked up that you're comparing such a terrible, disgusting thing to a thing that kinda sucks, but isn't too awful really.

[@atticus07]

also im so sorry that happened to you and I hope you're doing ok :(

[@Xeroux]

@@atticus07 I am, thank you, still have therapy which helps.

[@dest2118]

Are you doing alright now? I genuinely hope you are; it’s such a terrible thing to experience.

[@SkaloTV]

Regardless of the situation, the amount of times Charlie says “I was wrong” and “he was right” is insane to see by today’s standards. Keep being real, that’s why we all keep coming back man

[@dylanj950]

the best part was DarkViper was being a pretty big asshole with his reaction, insulting Charlie and whatnot, but Charlie didn't even let it influence his response

[@ashroskell]

Dark Viper is a well known troll. I knew him years ago when he used to hang around trump videos on the news, talking smack and being mean to people just because they disapprove of racism. I don’t know why Charlie is bothering to dignify this attention seeker? “Only the Syth deals in absolutes,” which is itself an absolute. As soon as you try to separate yourself from a dick, a little of their dick dribble rubs off on you. The only real separation is not getting involved with them. Charlie is too good for this. Viper is never going to be honest about being so wrong.

[@Lenicyl]

@@dylanj950 i dont know man i would be pretty mad if someone bashes on my script AND make a video on it even before i make the video on it ? No im not a darkviper au fan or something if you were wondering

[@khangvinh4656]

@@dylanj950 it was justified why he got mad. He has the time to reread DV scripts and fully understand it, yet in his video, he still was making fun of Matt and did not provide any insight into what the document was stating from start to finish. Hell, DV made a 47 mins video analyzing Charlie’s criticism and covering as much as he could yet people still think that he is in the fault for being mad. He spent time writing the scripts for his video recapping his works while Charlie just stomped in said, “this is pretty confusing but I guess you’re wrong”. Literally got called out by Matt on the fact that he should have put more time in understanding the materials before making dumb jokes and claims that could hurt small creators.

[@jordan-matthewdavis]

@@Lenicyl But don't be an asshole about your rebuttal. That's the real problem and just muddles the point of the response.

[@-ASG-]

That one argument though: “If this piece of evidence is incorrect, then how can every other piece of evidence be trusted as true?” That argument was genuinely used during the OJ trial, and it worked. That argument is the most logically flawed argument that is commonly used.

[@wellusee688]

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[@InTheUnkwn]

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[@InTheUnkwn]

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[@kingroachxvii3392]

My nigga u spitin all sorts of facts right now. I've seen that shit a TON of times on the internet. A lot of people would rather prove that you're wrong than prove that they're right.

[@stofficial9315]

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[@Evancade]

Charlie the amount of passion you have for creating content is a gift to the world.

[@Exodus1129]

I watch all of your content, from your wrestling, the slap fights, all the way down to your rants and “react” videos. I genuinely enjoy it all. I will play your videos and let them play while I’m at work, just for the simple fact of you add so much value to your videos and explain what is happening so well that I don’t need to actively watch the video to follow along.

[@DuDe3810]

Charlie's trap card: being humble and willing to admit when he's wrong

[@MbitaChizi]

Charles is my inspiration, my parents said if I get 5K likes on my *"Easy On Me"* Cover They'd definitely buy me a better mic for recording, *begging you guys, literally begging.

[@InTheUnkwn]

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[@InTheUnkwn]

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[@stofficial9315]

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[@marli288]

Go Charlie 😎

[@weeps4ourspecies210]

Imagine most adults had conversations, admitted wrongness, and cleared up misunderstandings the way Charlie does. What a different world this would be.

[@lolzmanxd3368]

Actual utopia, and when they did insult each other, it would be truly legendary

[@cameron2851]

they both made videos for content. The "adults" would just talk over private message

[@univerex-8061]

@@cameron2851 What a terrible take lol It’s like you just had amnesia after watching the video and forgot the part where Charlie was getting literal emails accusing him of being a rapist. No fucking shit he needs to make a video to address things and clear things up

[@Yuti640]

Indeed, I saw Matt’s video earlier today and I really did fully understand where he was coming from and when I saw this and started watching it I was worried that Charlie was gonna do the generic KZbinr thing where he calls everything a misunderstanding and dances around the point Which is just why I’m so fucking glad he didn’t, he admitted his wrongs, he’s going to try to do better and gives an understandable response and highlights where Matt went completely wrong, specifically with the consent argument

[@badreddinekasmi8919]

@@linhza501 On the net its still better to adress things before they become misrepresented unless you're a big company that can suffocate it. Especially when the claims originate from Twitter which is a big game of telephone and where people take vitriolic sides really quickly and oversimplify and sensationalise stories. It's a bit of a stretch but look at someone like Projared. Who had (factual) allegations of cheating but since he took his sweet time to respond to them they turned into fake allegations of child stuff and ended up with his noodles being leaked all over Twitter. Additionally it's understandable that Charlie got defensive and wanted to respond to the criticism he was getting as fast as he can. Whether trolls or not words have a meaning and it'd be hard to find anyone who's willing to go a prolonged period of time while being called something they are not.

[@ananas7800]

the end literally made me tear up, I enjoy your content so much and often watch it on the side while doing other things too, I have been for a few years and I never really strayed from that, I'm really glad that you're happy with the content you make now and I hope you continue to do great, I,ll support you for as long as I can

[@HAUNTED_MINDS]

In all honesty, I used to watch your content in highschool back in that 2010 to 2016 time frame you talk about and it was funny the first time I watched it but I wanted more then what you were doing. But within the last year I came back and found out that your content has totally changed and in my opinion for the better. I really love your new content and I have viewed more of your new videos and rewatched them more often now than then. You seem happier and more excited to make your content now looking at it from when I did watch you and now and I am happy to hear that you are making content that makes you happy. You may have had good days in the past but from what I have seen, you have even better days to come. Have a great day to anyone that may see this.

[@kami_beatz5795]

wow seeing charlie actually upset knowing people prefer his old content, when he says he was miserable is heartbreaking.

[@SpencerCJ]

@King Longface Yo this sucks ass

[@brightbeyonddarkness]

@King Longface Lmfao, wannabe rapper

[@bojangbugami8650]

@King Longface wtf is that

[@Ken-lv4ww]

@King Longface shit rap

[@wendigo374]

its mostly annoying to me because even if you don't like his new content they should still be happy that he enjoys his new content more. you could even tell from his voice that it wasn't enjoyable, sadly people only think of themselves

[@melhekhinhel]

I saw some people actually complaining that Charlie makes "too many mistakes and too many videos about it" because he actually owns up to when he's said something wrong in a video and doesn't try to just ignore it or sweep it under the rug. Internet drama is so dumb lmao.

[@toebs_]

That’s nice, but imo it is the bare minimum to correct wrong statements you’ve made, and critisizing someone for constantly giving out false information (not necessarily the case here, just arguing for the broader point) is entirely fair.

[@meepandteep]

It sounds like a few people came over from Twitter

[@ArcanumOverseer]

It's the same analogy as linking the google doc and risking the chance of people sending hate on darkviper. People are too emotional when debating it's stupid not everyone is gonna be satisfied.

[@melhekhinhel]

@@toebs_ but that's an absurd stance to have. Being mad that people make mistakes/report information that isn't absolutely accurate/etc.? Being wrong is just part of being human and dealing with other humans being mistaken is inevitable. It's a dumb way to look at the world and when you take it so seriously that you have neurotic outbursts online like Viper does, it's embarrassing.

[@doinyomom6540]

Everyone on the internet has apparently never made a mistake, let alone more than 1

[@TheUnbiasedQuincy]

This is something I really respect about Charlie. He admits when he's wrong and tries to see the other person's side of things. It's a rare and admirable trait.

[@MrJustasever]

I love how many different genre of video's you work on and how much effort you put into them all. Takes a lot for a someone admit their wrong especially to someone that spoke so poorly of you, Just keep doing what makes you happy Charlie.

[@katieridgway7724]

people need to realize that someone being misinformed or ignorant in situations, doesn't make them liars or mean that they had malicious intent. And like charlie did, as long as you address your mistakes and admit youre wrong, then thats what matters. The comparisons made about "dont leave your cup open" are disgusting and disregards people who actually suffered from SA.

[@ChristianBaal]

I mean even if you don’t have malicious intent, doesn’t mean that harm wasn’t done. You can hold DarkViper accountable for his analogies and how he holds himself, but you should also hold Charlie accountable for the wrong he did to Matt. It doesn’t go away just cause he apologized. You can accept it but don’t act like it’s the only thing that matters.

[@kuroshi7766]

@@ChristianBaal To be fair though, I think that DV mentioning the comparison what what prompted Charlie to even argue against him. Calling out react content is one thing, and that Charlie probably would have agreed with had that been the only thing DV mentioned. It's another thing entirely to compare it to SA. There are just levels that anyone, especially public figures like youtubers, shouldn't stoop down towards, and DV definitely did when he made those statements on twitter.

[@Sebastian-iz1ln]

The problem is Charlie has first and foremost a LOT of power with information. And secondly, Charlie is very consistantlly someone who will strongly strongly claim things are true or untrue and that hes not wrong, and then when he's proven wrong he just says "Oh okay" and swiftly ends it. It's annoying. and Charlie seems to never do good research. He always just reads the google basics and goes onto it like facts.

[@taylorswag4462]

Exactly

[@odysseytkl7261]

@@Sebastian-iz1ln Charlie is the first one to admit that he's wrong and to account for his mistakes. It's still a human being that we're talking about, maybe he should inform himself better but no one is perfect and we are all prone to make mistakes. I don't really know what else do you want him to say or do in addition to the apology and the things he said will change with his content. He has said it multiple times, he isn't a drama channel and doesn't pursue drama, but he found himself being compared to a sexual assaulter which is just outrageous from the get-go

[@leithschroeder7050]

I’ve honestly never cared what Charlie is doing on stream or on KZbin. I tune in because I know that whatever it is, he’s going to make it entertaining as all hell. I’d never looked at a yugioh card in my life, but I watched every second of his unboxings.

[@topontiming8325]

Facts

[@jaceuschristus3220]

^

[@restinpeace8319]

me too! and then you learn something. thats the thing i really like about this channel. with the videos i choose to watch, i'm learning something new and have been introduced to topics / creators i never thought to look into. theres so much variety too!

[@TrevorDGreat_]

For real he’s just a very entertaining and truthful about whatever’s he’s doing it doesn’t matter what it is its always funny/entertaining

[@JK-vy8vh]

I feel the same way

[@cory1187]

I’ve watched you for over 8 years now and I can say I am really glad you are happier now, what you are doing now is incredible, and you seem like an awesome person who honestly tries to hear what people say and grow

[@morganpryde9125]

Shoulda just hit the man with a “cry about it, you’re reacting to my shit now lol welcome to the club”

[@krazyxki]

Lmfaoo love this take, didn't even think about that 😂😂

[@SilverZealot]

Damn, Charlie really sounded hurt when he talked about all of his efforts making videos compared to back then.

[@MbitaChizi]

Charles is my inspiration, my parents said if I get 5K likes on my *"Easy On Me"* Cover They'd definitely buy me a better mic for recording, *begging you guys, literally begging..

[@spicypepperz]

People always like to talk about the glory days it's not just him it's with everything like how sports were more competitive back in the day animations were more crude and didnt care people will always talk about the past cause they miss it I think it's just human nature to think Bout times in your life you valued as good

[@B1ackWolf]

Ok I'm gonna be the first actual person to reply to this He sounded hurt because he actually hated his content back then to the point he almost quit youtube Edit:damn it spicy beat me by 3 second xD

[@0netrick198]

Not a place I’d expect to see your name, but cool to see you here

[@kgamer1715]

@@B1ackWolf it be like that sometimes

[@Zeer0042]

When he says, "That's it, see ya" instead of "That's about it, see ya" you know he's serious.

[@DonCarlosBack]

basically every video

[@WhiteTenpenny]

The ending almost lowkey got me choked up when he meantioned all the things he’s been doing. Charlie and his bois are so much more and I admire him for that. You could tell in his voice that it got to him.

[@TheWhiteWolf6911]

Ultimately I think both sides have valid arguments on the situation, however when you present your side of things in the way DarkViper has then you instantly lose any and all credibility your argument had for the sake of shock value to attempt to "win", when in reality you just nailed your own coffin. Just comparing the video responses about the situation you instantly get a sense of who has a more composed viewpoint, ranting and raging about your side of it won't make people listen to what you have to say any more so than if you just presented it in a composed manner. That's why Charlie has always been the best when drawn into drama, even when making mistakes he admits he is wrong and presents the information as factual as possible without stooping to starting problems with the creators and criticizing their actions objectively rather than in a biased manner.

[@STRmw2]

pretty much what he did with Muta too. that dude really has some issues, which is a shame because he does have some valid points, just has no tact or ability to turn them to a conversation...

[@uncertainboy8893]

be objective and stop worrying about how its presented.

[@TheWhiteWolf6911]

@@uncertainboy8893 You can objectively look at an argument and agree with its points while still pointing out the flaws of the individual presenting it, someone might objectively be in the right on a situation but if you present that information like a man-child and go as far as comparing people watching content to sexual abusers then your argument is going to lose traction because no matter what you believe EVERY person on this planet will look at the extraneous circumstances first rather than the true message, for example if you preach world peace or something along those lines your argument itself can be objectively agreed with yes, but if that same speech is coming from a racist homophobe whose version of world peace is mass genocide of those they deem "un-peaceful" then can you really ignore the presentation of the argument? Much more extreme example sure, but it is the same premise, if your argument is being presented in a problematic fashion then yes it does in fact affect the message as a whole to the audience it is presented to. Just look at what actually happened here, DarkViper had SEVERAL people even in his own community agree with points HOWEVER because of his "metaphors" the whole argument becomes focused around that and NOT what the main point was to begin with.

[@nemesisnidhoggr1468]

@@TheWhiteWolf6911 as someone with a similar problem of people not understanding what i mean - i feel for Viper. It is so frustrating, to the point of despairity (no idea how to write this word btw), to see people not understanding simple things. You write entire page of arguments, facts and points. But they will latch on 1 word they didnt liked and completely ignore everything else. And even more - in this anger i'm not mad at person. I'm mad at the fact, that no matter how hard i try to explain - person wouldnt understand. Things to consider in this situation: 1. This thought was distracting Viper from editing video. When you think about something important - you cant focus on other things until you express your thoughts. 2. Viper lives alone. Basically no friends, family, girlfriend. All he has - his audience. So he can express only to them. 3. He writes a script for a future video, that will take a lot of time making. But he is busy with editing pacifist run. So he expresses his thoughts in a script to his audience. 4. It is a script, not a scientific paper. It is meant to be made for an entertainment video. With big words Viper uses on a day to day basis. Like overlords. Obviously things are exaggerated for a comedic purpose. 5. His script was send to Charlie from Viper's reddit post and his twitter. And Charlie reacted. Viper didnt thought that someone outside his community will find his script. 6. Charlie completely misunderstood document. I would even bet he didnt read it in a first place. Probably someone send him link and said "This guy wrote bad things on page 4, 7 and 12". So Charlie read only those pages. And made video defaming Viper. 7. Viper, now unable to make a proper video and facing backlash - had to made a response. Where he obviously pissed for a right reason. And this is the problem. People do not read. At all. They glance over page, looking for some word they can use for their own bias. Then read line with that word in it and made up stuff, that isn't even there. I watched several videos reacting to Viper's document. NOONE read it from start to finish

[@TheWhiteWolf6911]

@@nemesisnidhoggr1468 Not that his document didn't have valid points but unfortunately it is indeed true that if you aren't mindful of the words used in any circumstance, people will latch onto the most eye-catching phrases and sections, and arguing the text was a script and not a formulated paper is a little disingenuous when Viper himself referred to it as a 14 page document, and if it was intended as a script calling an informative document is a bit of a stretch, a key difference being that such a document should be in a unbiased academic form whereas you pointed out it is very clearly laced with his own metaphors and exaggerations, ultimately the document/script probably should never have been released in this format and the information presented through his channel in a video format, in the case of this being a script for said video also is a bit of an issue in of itself as why would he release the script before the video in the first place? Additionally I would say yes I believe most didn't read the whole thing, it's 14 pages long and most were probably finding it difficult to understand many of his metaphors. I get having difficulty getting across what you are trying to say, but if you take the time to write out this whole document you must have SOME level of understanding how these things should be presented in order for the message to get across. Again with the expression thing too, I myself live entirely alone and mostly isolated and I understand the need to spew everything to those you CAN access, however again if you don't curate yourself then some things can be misinterpreted or exaggerated. It basically boils down to whether or not this document was intended as thought out paper or script. In the former case then he really needed to cook this more before release to ensure people WOULD read through it fully and not lace in your own biased exaggerations/metaphorical phrases which people will read and question. If it was a script why was it public in the first place? Why let people read this whole thing a produce it for people to read over if it was not well thought out a curated beforehand?

[@GrandMasterBruh]

I’m not gonna lie, I’ve never seen Charlie be this frustrated, he’s speaking fast and carrying on sentences for like 10 seconds with no breaks. *It’s quite scary.*

[@markx2231]

Holy shit are you the guy that was wanting Lego Star Wars The Complete Saga on the moist meter?

[@gabiferreira6864]

yeah he's actually distressed by this stuff

[@twosquids]

@@gabiferreira6864 I am too. This is people I have dated and it makes me uncomfortable. You can't have a reasonable discussion with someone who is being completely unreasonable

[@khangvinh4656]

@@twosquids Well, DarkViperAU did correct a lot of Charlie’s points. It would be understandable that he is struggling to defend him’s claim as he didn’t do good enough researches just like how his video on shorts got corrected by 2 other creators.

[@mathero13]

@@gabiferreira6864 realmente Gabriel Ferreira

[@RamiAbdulhai]

As a content creator being constantly compared to how you used to be 3-4 years or even 1 year ago really sucks. It's hard for the audience to accept change in the people they idolize the most.

[@MbitaChizi]

Charles is my inspiration, my parents said if I get 5K likes on my *"Easy On Me"* Cover They'd definitely buy me a better mic for recording, *begging you guys, literally begging...

[@MaxF1v3]

Yeah

[@SylverScourge]

That part just genuinely upset me. I'm not even a content creator and I hate being compared to my past self. Things change. People change. I can only imagine how he feels being told that basically every day that his content was best during his worst days.

[@Istarelle112]

Who tf even are you?

[@FGPlus]

Lol get over it ur job is ezpz

[@GlassHalfEmpty66plus6]

The dude in question is quite upset but he couldn't properly articulate his point. I looked at his tweets about it and I assumed the same thing before watching this video. Keep doing you Charles the fact you had the decency to clarify this situation instead of letting it blow over and ignore it means you're a standup guy.

[@cathedral1375]

Hope you stay controversy free like genuinely, over the years ive seen so many of my original favorite youtubers fall do to weird shit online but I’ve never heard non of that weird bs with you, thank you.

[@pbnzay7171]

Going after Charlie’s “quality” is ridiculous considering there has been steady growth for 10+ years. As someone who found Charlie as a pre-pubescent teen and now continues to watch as a young balding adult, I am here for the PERSON he is. Content will always change but the person behind the content will be what keeps people coming back.

[@brandimccormick4439]

I guess I'll never know if this guy meant to say young balding adult or young budding adult and if it was a typo it was an excellent one.

[@pbnzay7171]

@@brandimccormick4439 LMAO unfortunately balding is the correct word here 😂

[@rein3935]

I found charlie as an adult and I don’t think I'll get tired of his content since his entire personality is very entertaining for me, sometimes even watching for hours and he still makes me laugh at times.

[@smra_progenitor]

@@pbnzay7171 Do you not see those LUSCIOUS LOCKS! Blasphemous.

[@akumafuhen]

Yeah Charlie and Someordinarygamers are the two channels that never got old for me.

[@oliverhurny]

This is why we all love Charlie. He doesn’t try to continuously defend his wrongdoings, he always just admits he’s wrong while clearing up some points and how the misunderstandings came to be. Edit: I dont think some of you in the replies understood this comment. I’m saying that there are countless content creators out there that wouldn’t have admitted they’re wrong. There are creators out there that wouldn’t have apologized and learned from it like Charlie did. As for saying that Charlie is just going to admit he’s wrong and still make reaction content, for fuck’s sake, have you even watched the fucking video? He said himself that he’ll completely change up how he does his react content.

[@oliverhurny]

@YeaMan ok

[@thefinal9923]

You literally cannot have watched this video in time to make this comment knowingly. I know it's pointless to point this out because you spineless internet fame point sponges already know it and aren't ashamed.

[@steve6997]

@@thefinal9923 damn

[@ausername1972]

Yes definitely. You made a comment in three minutes on a thirty minute video and already say something you assume

[@suskysulky]

It's not that hard to say "I was wrong"

[@calledlennixxx4539]

It really touched me at the end to hear him say how happy he is now doing all the amazing stuff. He is truly a great content creator.

[@CHSidChou]

this is the most mature response/apology video ive ever seen on youtube

[@Patterrz]

Admitting that you're wrong in some areas is great. Had he not come out guns blazing with the original tweet and replies to the tweets, Dark Viper would have had more people willing to pay attention to the specifics of what he was saying.

[@MbitaChizi]

Charles is my inspiration, my parents said if I get 5K likes on my *"Easy On Me"* Cover They'd definitely buy me a better mic for recording, *Begging you guys, literally begging*

[@ariamh823]

His career was in the line tho

[@JODA93]

There is value in diplomacy.

[@gamingpriests]

Darkviper has the mentality of a child. The reason why this drama is here is because he relies on hyperboles and exaggerations. If he conducted himself as an adult with a point, he would be right.

[@rocketpanda7253]

“Stay in your lane pat” lmao

[@fmstn3293]

2010-2015 Charlie is what made me fall in love with his content, his humour and his personality, 2016-present Charlie is what's kept that love intact. Mad respect for being the bigger man and admitting your mistakes, here's to many more years of watching and loving your content. You're my favorite content creator, much love Big Moist

[@bananadramagazelle]

Same! Come for the Qwop, stayed for the content

[@endserenading333]

Tbh I think nostalgia might play a lot in that for some of the people that say they prefer his old content. I've gone back and watched his old videos and while I do appreciate them I think they're of their time and the content he makes now is so much better and funnier.

[@ghostknight4147]

@@endserenading333 especially the vids he makes with this friends. Nothing but wholesome content with a bunch of wacky dudes doing varied activities. It's alot more entertaining

[@bones8547]

I did see reddit posts saying Charlie had gone downhill, and as I've only watched for a few months, it made no sense to me. Of course, I went back to watch the older videos and the IMPROVEMENT is very clear. Then again, trusting angry redditors is like believing everything a toddler says when it wants attention.

[@Naokarma]

Every channel that has changed even remotely will have people say they like the "old" version of a channel. Nostalgia is a big part of that, as well as shifting from one focus to another. He went from basically dubbing over bad infomercials, which is a fun concept, but gets old fast. Even JacksFilms' channel got kicked off from the same stuff.

[@crazymate9247]

Was a dark viper fan before this. I’ve really lost a lot of respect for him over this drama

[@nemesisnidhoggr1468]

Except that drama was created by Charlie himself) I just love how people in Charlie's first video were like "Yeah! Charlie is right! Viper is big dumb!" and now Charlie admits he was wrong and Viper is right, but people still like "Yeah! Charlie is great, admits he's wrong! Viper is big dumb"

[@mr.thammisses6119]

@@nemesisnidhoggr1468 You obviously didn't watch the whole video.

[@staymoist2219]

@@nemesisnidhoggr1468 no dad?

[@Rain-eCat]

@@nemesisnidhoggr1468 Matt could’ve easily went about this ina totally different way thay would’ve ended well but he just dug himself a deeper hole.

[@nemesisnidhoggr1468]

@@Rain-eCat nope. It was damage control. Charlie did a video. Misunderstood the topic. Defamed Matt. And there is nothing Matt could do about it. Not his fault Charlie was too lazy to read mere 14 pages of word document. I guess we live in a society, that cannot handle that much reading

[@PVUser429]

The emotion in Charlie's voice when he talked about how his content transformed over the years got to me. Fuck, man. That hit way too hard. You're doing amazing, my guy. Never stop growing.

[@frankdone01]

All links above are spam i got baited hard please don't fall for them as i did.

[@foreverNwonder]

Idr, it makes me mad ppl are hurting his feelings ☹️

[@doodle_barnes4859]

Me too man

[@kevinross6235]

@@frankdone01 As a general rule, never click on any link !

[@vlcallmeprince-x6032]

@@frankdone01 thank you good sir

[@repugnant__6379]

Charlie is so stressed about making his point and misconceptions clear. Mad respect dude, even the things you did get wrong were not that bad at all and understandable

[@stevenpaskatitties4986]

@@lordboyardee4088 how did he defame him? Did you not watch the videos?

[@lordheadass3662]

nah, he did a pretty shitty job

[@stevenpaskatitties4986]

@@lordboyardee4088 lol obviously. To me it seems like Vipers doing this for clout and it’s obviously working for him

[@reddieboi_1819]

@@stevenpaskatitties4986 No he isn't. I've been following him for long enough to know he isn't that type of guy

[@Ryzen1]

Its because those darkvaper fans who go on an asshole crusade raiding charlies email and say some nasty shit, i absolutely hate those people and hope he adress this problem and tell his community to stfu and stop harrassing people.

[@uzi_does_it_2017]

When I enjoy a reactor's personality it mimics the experience of watching the content with a friend. Thank you for the reaction videos of great content that I would not have noticed, keep doing god's work my friend, shout out to channel 5 news.

[@venombug7476]

There is a reason that after the hell that was 2010's reactors, "Reaction Channels/Streamers" still stayed because we as a community enjoy sharing experiences with others. I have trouble with mental health, and my main pain right now is that I don't have anyone to share my interests in. My family don't enjoy the same things I do, and my friends never want to meet in person, so having someone react to stuff that I enjoy and giving their opinion feels great. It feels like a friend just chatting with you.

[@JohannR117]

Ikr!? Good point, it does feel reminiscent of watching goofy stuff with friends like the old days sometimes, and he's not doing cringey reactions like many. Aaand how many times have I gone to other pages or topics after I happened to catch a reaction that I wouldn't have heard of otherwise... It's insane other KZbinrs don't even know a fraction of his public portfolio apparently before jumping on him 🤦‍♂️

[@EOh-ew2qf]

but that exactly what darkviper pointed out. people prefer the reaction video over the original one because of your reason. and the reactor takes all that money for the original creator's work. It's like watching a movie with your friend and your friend takes all the tickets sales

[@uzi_does_it_2017]

@@EOh-ew2qf I watched the video Captain Oblivious, you missed the point and I could not care less.

[@Hexamath]

@uzi_does_it_2017 Meaning you’re fine with allowing reactors to steal from people that actually work on content while those people get none of the benefit? Also, thanking Charlie for the “great content I would not have noticed” is so absurd considering you’d likely still find some good content even without Charlie’s help because that’s literally how the algorithm works. Charlie just takes those impressions (and potential views) away in turn for his reactions to those videos being displayed instead. So, again, you’re fine with Charlie and many other reactors doing this and harming everyone else but themselves? If so then reconsider your morals.

[@auraclesong7208]

This is the first full video of yours that I've watched. Very respectful, very well-spoken, kudos on explaining exactly what you got wrong & why / how, and how & where you agree & disagree with DarkViper. Great stuff.

[@You_Die_Randomly]

You can hear the pain in Charlie's voice at the end. He loves his content and he's happy making it

[@Nightmare-kv8bt]

@see here I missed the part where that's my problem

[@Fiends4]

Yeah because he's rich now. Of course he is happier now, he has money to do whatever he wants.

[@Psykossz]

@@Fiends4 You are clearly very dense, money doesn’t bring happiness, even if it did he openly voiced why he’s happier now so ion know why you’d still say this shit.

[@Redahoge10]

I think its both that, n his voice was giving out

[@poko60]

i mean you should always do what you feel comfortable with, and Charlie's one trick pony aanalogy is a good way to look at things. But I feel many youtubers forget there's a reason they became as big as they did. I like seeing Charlies new content but If he could just once in a while, do his old style of content? Why not? Like he says as unfunny and non high prductive and uncool sounding his old content was, that was great content, people loved it. KZbin isn't TV for a reason. You look at someone doing something goofy or interesting and you like it. That's about it. If I wanted to see full production stuff I'd move to TV where they do shit like this, or Mr Beast for example, whose content I personally don't like, but he does that content in the best way. If I wanted to I'd watch him instead. Charlie doing that is fun but not doing what made him big in the first place is just... there's no problem with it, but I just miss it.

[@javabean4383]

Hearing Charlie talk about how hard he's worked these past few years is genuinely upsetting because you can hear how passionate he is and how this upsets him. You're doing great, boss man, don't let those types of comments drag you down

[@mclovin2408]

bots are invading uh oh

[@Svol09]

He literally just open the stream and talks, that is not hard work, ffs

[@PastPositive]

@@Svol09 Why don't you do it then?

[@javabean4383]

@@Svol09 You didn't watch the video, did you

[@Svol09]

@@PastPositive cuz it's beneath me to entertain people, i hate everyone so much that if y'all go extinct tomorrow i'll die with a smile on my face. Probably will happen during my lifetime seeing how life is going. Fingers crossed.

[@Vigamadur]

Keep up the good work, Cr1tikal! The new content bangs so much more than the old content

[@jtothewa4858]

Darkviper seems to be on the whole too heated and out there when he makes his arguments and it undermines a lot of what he's saying as it comes off as toxic. It's easy to get what he's saying wrong, and even if you don't, it will just sound silly.

[@natecriminal3410]

It's the same issue with PewDiePie. People are always forcing him to play amnesia again even though he has on multiple occasions stressed that he never enjoyed it. He also has mentioned that now he's very happy with the content he's putting out because it makes him happy. Charlie should not be shamed or forced into making the old content he used to make and infact should be applauded for diversifying into a broader field in different content which he has been doing for the past years and is actually really enjoyable and genuinely great content.

[@TheSoCalledZoner1]

why did people hate 2010 pewdiepie

[@510tuber]

It's like when he was on CinnamonToastKen and asked him if he remembered back when they'd have to fake reactions like they were scared because it wasn't scary. I don't know how people thought that was legit lol. Not that great of content.

[@TheUltimateNavigator1]

Well regarding amnesia, not so much true. He's stated a lot he used to like it, but all of his reactions were faked. He stated though multiple times he never enjoyed Happy Wheels despite being asked to play it a lot.

[@xXcoolguyXx2011]

Sure but he shouldnt be upset to called making lazy content and stealing views

[@happymate8943]

@@xXcoolguyXx2011 Darkviper didn't called them lazy , he called them bad people and sexual predators.

[@IBeenOnHots]

Damnnn. Big respect and kudos to Charlie for how mature he’s handling this but fuck bro im gonna miss youtube nights. Breakout, Channel 5, Court Cam… Those got me thru nights and shifts

[@zomb1eez]

wait he isnt gonna do them anymore??

[@wqeqweqwewq7271]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqq3epZ8jtl8h5Y DARK VIPER'S FANS ATTACKING CHARLIE..

[@wqeqweqwewq7271]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqq3epZ8jtl8h5Y DARK VIPER'S FANS ATTACKING CHARLIE...

[@quibee2882]

I’m sure he will. He adds a lot of commentary to those vidoes

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

Charlie handled this drama like an alpha sigma Chad.

[@pepekovallin]

I love when people say that something is out of context, but the context only makes their situation slightly less shitty or downright worse

[@xandreprymak3137]

I actually like the variety in his content like doing stuff in his warehouse, or trying weird stuff like the chicken tender shake, or making tier lists, or even the music that he and Troy write together, or talking about online drama, movies he’s seen or games he’s played.

[@slimeparty539]

There's more pain in his voice during the final rant than when he hit himself in the balls unpacking a pooping unicorn toy. As much as people will be nostalgic for the older style of some if not all creators, it's still a shitty thing to tell you directly that you're "not as good as before" I have witnessed people change their style of creativity in all sorts of media, and I don't really notice the change because I like them that much, I'm that invested in their content to continue supporting them and watching them grow. Knowing that you're happier with this new style brings us a smile, you keep doing you Charlie.

[@lennartjakob]

I really hate when people feel the need to say that stuff. Like it's the creatives entire freedom to whatever they please and if people don't like it, then they can watch / listen to that older content. My first experience with this was when Linkin Park changed into a more electronic style and people criticized them for being too experimental, while their style in their early days was experimental too.

[@BruhgerHD]

@@run7388 woah hey no need man

[@virtualdash]

This is why I like Charlie. He admits when he is wrong, but he is also willing to defend himself

[@MichaelYT22]

Give this man 1.1k dislikes!

[@blipblop1112]

Kinda reminds me of pyrocynical response

[@camzchanneld6531]

@@MichaelYT22 he just copied from the top comment

[@MichaelYT22]

@@camzchanneld6531 oh whoops.

[@thatstranger6114]

More than that, he's not actively malicious in his defense. He sticks to the point and doesn't add unnecessary attacks. It really shows his character. Pretty refreshing to see

[@gustavodiaz8635]

I love this guys videos when I just want to have a noise back round that I can focus on and get away from my stress

[@Fanchen]

He wasn’t comparing reactors to rapists, the analogy was to describe the idea of consent. You wouldn’t ask for consent after the fact.

[@salvulcano9061]

I’m kind of torn on reaction videos because they can both help smaller channels and also just steal credit, or leech off someone else, in your case critikal actually helped your channel grow a lot. Anyways, great fan and you are one of the reasons I started playing piano.

[@Fanchen]

@@salvulcano9061 he did help my channel, but I don’t think he was just “reacting” to my video, he assembled fragments from both sides of the argument, provided context, and told the story in his viewpoint. Charlie wasn’t just sitting there watching the entirety of my video, which I think is quite different than purely “reaction content.” Thanks for the encouragement, I will try to upload soon. I hope your experience with piano is a joyful one.

[@goldwarhead3295]

It's truthly facinating how you can end up in the same comment section of a drama video that was uploaded a year ago with a guy from a famous comment thread sharing his opinion by a total accident at 2 AM. What a small world. Love it.

[@nicknick493]

I feel like in retrospective the analogy was somewhat of an extreme example which caught people off-guard (mainly the ones being accused of it) but its 100% correct

[@letsgochamp9272]

Yeah it seems like people Don't see the point

[@Clevergirl09]

It’s rare to see someone admit something hurt them and even rarer still to also admit they got things wrong. Not only does he talk about taking actionable steps to improve his content he really is able to see through the rant to the points made in this not meticulously crafted 14 page document. Charlie you are definitely a real one

[@victor2055]

Most would deny the fact that they are wrong, and Charlie explains it as an experience and fully admits his wrongs. I love Charlie, and I see Viper’s point, but he was being irrational, quite loud and, yeah needed 14 pages to get to a point.

[@SpicyTortilla69]

@@victor2055 watching things isn't a wrong lmao who cares if he watches things on stream? Isn't the whole point of people uploading things to reach as many people as possible? Kinda weird that he's letting some idiot who's butt hurt influence how he runs his streams

[@Tongys]

If anyone genuinely believes that Charlie ever had ill intentions, they don't understand who he is

[@Alayathekid]

Jesus Christ?

[@kamixxae1567]

@@calebking1608 no one “knows” him but if you watch his content you “know who he is”. Large difference there.

[@Enskyed]

@@kamixxae1567 No, there isn't.

[@SenOutOfContext]

@@calebking1608 they are all 10 year old sheep, don't be so rough on them lol

[@GloomEater]

Being wrong while having good intentions doesn't always make up for it. Not to say Charlie did something horrible, but it's something to consider in your personal life.

[@TheDGomezzi]

This made me go watch Jay Exci’s video on this and wow it was so much better. It’s everything DarkViper wishes his argument were: Mature, thoughtful, well-communicated, honest, thorough.

[@Naokarma]

I came from the other way around. Was rewatching some of Jay's content and got reminded that Charlie was involved in the drama, and was trying to see if there was any mention of him on KZbin. It's nice to see that he not only acknowledged the video, but pointed out how well-made it was. Just wish that Hasan wasn't such a baby, but 2/3 people being responsible isn't bad.

[@FollowerofDuck]

i honestly love charlies content variety; its so clear that hes very passionate about everything he does and it shows up in his work

[@sushiman3817]

The people who reference your "glory days" are just a loud minority. You're at 10 million for a reason. Your videos show your passion and you are genuinely one of the few people out there on the Internet that shows true humbleness. Brush this off and keep doing what you enjoy, we'll be here to watch

[@alexpurol6810]

He literally grew by 3 million since i subscribed a year and a half ago lol

[@Colinop]

you can have a billion subscribers and still be a dead channel if u get like 1mil/video

[@karama5562]

@@Colinop I wouldn’t call his channel dead though

[@Colinop]

@@karama5562 oh for sure it's just subscribers =/= if your channel is "in it's glory days"

[@extinctiongaming3556]

@AliSand his content's kind of dipped

[@curly_bill]

The issue is a lot of people see two sides of an argument in only black and white. They see it as one is 100% correct and another is 100% wrong when that’s almost never the case. So whenever someone makes a claim they don’t fully agree with, they think they need to invalidate everything about that person completely. Good on charlie for seeing right and wrong in both of their arguments.

[@bishop6308]

@@arzaqqwWhat. Could you give me the time stamp?

[@chunkyzamboni8407]

@@arzaqqw and darkviper is 100% right?

[@reaperlordsmc2855]

@@chunkyzamboni8407 true

[@MtownGuy]

Us politics in a nutshell

[@darryllavalley7073]

*politics*

[@robbiewilson214]

Charlie’s so damn patient to take the time to actually articulate how he feels about people tearing his content down. My petty ass would’ve just told them to go touch grass

[@derangedsockpuppet678]

Who exactly was tearing down whose contents?

[@Alucard-mj6yj]

​@@derangedsockpuppet678 bro how many comments are you gonna reply to in order to ride darkvipers meat?

[@callofabyss]

I love how almost every video he starts off with a deep ass and relaxed voice and overtime that he just keeps talking he sounds more in a high pitched voice

[@sun.s_tea]

I actually see this as the ultimate response. By not only telling his rights but also his mistakes, he shows his true desire for no more drama. Just the truth. And if your position against arguments is keeping up your complaints without wanting any closure to that said debating. Then buddy... you're fucked.

[@rusoruski3565]

Sadly probably DarkViper is going to prolongue this as long as possible so then he could have the last word

[@willson7360]

@@rusoruski3565 I mean he hasn't...

[@nyancatpoptart5441]

@@willson7360 Hopefully it stays that way. Because if he does try to keep dragging it out more than it needs to, he will only be making himself look worse.

[@willson7360]

@@nyancatpoptart5441 on both sides.

[@rusoruski3565]

@@willson7360 I got shutted so badly...

[@Briggsian]

Charlie: "I get things wrong" Me: *sees video titled, "I was wrong again" from 4 days ago* Me: "Yup, checks out"

[@wqeqweqwewq7271]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqq3epZ8jtl8h5Y DARK VIPER'S FANS ATTACKING CHARLIE

[@wqeqweqwewq7271]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqq3epZ8jtl8h5Y DARK VIPER'S FANS ATTACKING CHARLIE.

[@angelux079]

Damn you got bots

[@Briggsian]

@@angelux079 you got any bot spray?

[@The_Ragequit_Cannon]

@@Briggsian I honestly don't know why KZbin is allowing this kind of thing

[@NathanAJM]

After this drama i started watching you i like your channel more now but his is still great to im glad you too resolved the issues.

[@CLSGL]

Charlie, we see you brother. We see your evolution as a creator, and your efforts, but we also see that you’re true to yourself. That’s why we love you. Keep it up!

[@Chuumi]

Honestly can't remember the last time I commented on a youtube video, and have only done it a handful of times for the 15 years I've had an account here. Damn near clicked away too for the first 5-10 minutes, because I haven't really followed, and therefore didn't understand at first, the issue you're addressing in this video. Am really happy I didn't. Your rant at the end of the video, especially, earned you a new subscriber. Absolutely love how honest and down-to-earth you are, and truly admire how you open up and communicate with your viewers like a friend. Keep being awesome, dude, feel like I subscribed to a friend today and regained some faith in humanity in addition

[@kingbroseph9773]

Bro is spitting fax

[@aolann4278]

bruh

[@slinkylemon8202]

There’s a reason he’s so popular

[@calvarez94]

its so crazy thats people get so intense over someones video just cause they didnt like the way it was put together its not like critikal is the news ans you have to take everything he says as facts

[@arisadefazio7885]

@@calvarez94 cool story bro

[@yanky_]

Don’t think I’ve ever heard Charlie speak this emotionally. Been watching since 2017, of course it’s hard to gauge people thru a phone or computer screen, but Charlie truly comes off as such a genuine person. I personally think a large reason Charlie does so well and continues to grow is because how transparent and true to himself he seems to come off.

[@mikehitchcock5753]

No. Tf. You havent..

[@yousz123123]

MISS INPUT

[@kidslikeyouwillgotohell4093]

@@mikehitchcock5753 Fk you talkin bout??

[@generalgrievous3731]

@@kidslikeyouwillgotohell4093 It's a meme where Charlie says, "That's a misinput!" Don't think too deeply about it

[@mschemi4886]

Charlie, you're awesome. I love your content. You're knowledgeable, intelligent, articulate, composed and humorous. When you're wrong or mistaken, you admit it. When you're right, you defend it. And you do it calmly but passionately. Your voice is great too. My son has watched you for years and has shown me things in the past. I am now a loyal follower and enjoy your videos immensely. And I totally wish I had hair like yours, my goodness!!

[@THEREALBLUZ]

I love how you admit your wrong takes a big person to admit that on a large social media platform especially when you have a large audience I wish viper wouldn’t have came out as a hothead love you moist ❤️

[@brianworland4858]

If the media and politicians acted this way when they made a mistake, or were wrong, the world might actually work correctly.

[@chrisi7127]

If only.

[@blitzblix9455]

yeah but there are a bit higher stakes in politics dont you think

[@pteroid11]

@@blitzblix9455 Also more money involved.

[@schmeetsonbeetson7168]

And also people don't control hiw much politicians get by unsubbing or not watching lol

[@blitzblix9455]

@@schmeetsonbeetson7168 lol

[@Merfolk_]

"Charlie is a react streamer with dick jokes as the only thing that makes him fun. " Charlie in the past few months: Moist Reviews, several gameplay walkthroughs/compilation, Music videos, Podcasts, Tierlists, Creator Collabs, DIY, Challenges/Tournaments, Toy Reviews, Vlogs, Speedruns, Etc.

[@SlightSmile]

He said that was the case when he was watching moist, which is most likely correct since his content was like that at one point.

[@muddposs2112]

He was mostly talking about his twitch streams

[@rendrarifaldi3469]

Yeah his content with Dale the Detroit Power Rangers was lit.

[@ILockhartI]

Don’t forget making the perfect French fries!

[@StayFractalesque]

it's almost like he thought, "who can i go after with the biggest audience that i can maybe pull some eyes from for at least a short period of time.."

[@DaMoniable]

imma be honest, the thing i love about the youtube nights is the deep dive into the lore. Its almost never just the video, theres always some other stuff thats not mentioned in the vids, tangents that dig deeper into other aspects of the lore etc. I think that if you really want to dig deep into something, its Charlies vids you wanna see first, to get a base line of all the avenues in the particular topic.

[@anikivance4449]

I started watching your channel in 2015, it's amazing how you've came so far and you have a lot to be proud of, it hurts me that you were falsely accused because I know you're a good person and wouldn't hurt anyone, keep doing what your doing I don't know who darkviper is but he seems narcissistic

[@johhjj]

The defense of "I didn't even make the video yet" makes no sense when he released an unfinished script for an unfinished video. If he didn't want people to respond to it until it was done, he should have finished it first.

[@VenomOnPC]

Well he clearly didn’t expect a response video to an audience which doesn’t regularly watch his content. I watch his content quite a bit bar a few series and even I don’t keep up with his outreach to his community on other platforms. This type of content usually gets put in one of his ramble videos which generate buzz for a little bit after upload from his core viewers/interested randomers, and that’s it. Not one of the people it concerns and certainly not a response video that’s been uploaded to the entirety of their fanbase.

[@notmeatman9557]

@@VenomOnPC no response video would have occurred has he decided not to list any names in an unfinished draft that he was going to let his community read

[@VenomOnPC]

@@notmeatman9557 The point still stands, people still say shit about those four list streamers ALL the time, whether that be randomers, news outlets or even other content creators who are just as big as DarkViperAU. It’s not even like he should have known better given he had a whole rambles series where he often talks about the latest controversies with no response videos coming his way. Regardless, the people he listed were valid and do offer a good example of what content he was referring to. Of course it’s equally as valid for them to reply, but it wouldn’t be fair to call out DarkViperAU for not knowing any better and assuming they wouldn’t respond.

[@abem7162]

agreed

[@johhjj]

@@VenomOnPC if you put ideas out on the internet you are opening yourself up to criticism. If you don't want people to respond, don't say it.

[@Mgrom-r7c]

Charlie, your glory days are not "back then,” they’re now. Don’t let these people get to you, your content is OBVIOUSLY not lazy. Keep doing everything you do; you are an inspiration.

[@leeman23664]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2SnqnWKisuDqcU

[@theeoddments960]

Most of it is, but it was lazy back then too his content is not based on production value it’s based on his personality and dry humor. every once in a while nowadays he puts real production value in his vids mostly the sex toy vids he actually spends money to make an entertaining video but let’s be honest, his reaction videos where he either just watches tv shows or other KZbinrs videos in full is where he gets a lot of his money from.

[@HerohammerStudios]

There's no doubt his content now is comparatively shittier. Not admitting to that is delusional

[@the_Googie]

@@theeoddments960 did you see the squid game videos? Where he got fans together to participate in a giant contest, or the whole E-Sports thing, which generates a net-negative, not to mention the comic and music coming a long. I wasnt around in the early days of Critical but from what ive heard his current content is what he enjoys so much more than back then. Idk bout anyone else but content feels better to me if i have the impression the creator has fun making it.

[@bobmango8472]

it IS lazy. thats doesn't matter. what matters is the end result

[@babbalad]

I literally watch your content because I feel like I get a fair and balanced perspective when you talk about ongoing drama, I get laughs when you do comedy, and I get HYPE when you show your passion with Moist Esports. Also Rizzo. I didnt view your content before so I dont have an opinion on it but your content now? Its goated

[@someguyatsubway]

I won't lie I do love the oldies Charlie I really do, they're how I found ya. But I'm also super stoked with all the new content and ventures, and I couldn't be happier to hear that branching out has been pretty liberating for ya. I'm here for whatever moist misadventures you got planned, Past Present and Future.

[@GaryRozu]

You can really tell he is deeply hurt when he was talking about the comparison to 2010 charlie he constantly gets. As soon as he started talking about it, his tone changed ever so slightly, you could FEEL that it is something that truly hurts him. Keep it up man, your content only gets better and better the more you grow, and I hope I can enjoy it for as long as I can, love u

[@leeman23664]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2SnqnWKisuDqcU

[@theeoddments960]

He’s insecure about it because yeah, his content HAS changed a lot since then because his income depends on it now and he’s honest with himself that his small cult that followed him because of his quick dry humor is mostly gone and replaced with kids that like drama content

[@happymate8943]

@@theeoddments960 Not really, dont see a lot drama videos being constantly made like the cdawg or vinsauce drama. He only talks about drama that's usually serious, or might involve him and friends. I dont know where the whole "drama for kids" came from but if I had to guess and judging from your past comments you're probably only referring to dream drama. Which is weird to make up that idea from one video.

[@KamiKai]

@@theeoddments960 Content seems the same to me, and the cult fans are still there. You must not be a great fan if you think there's been change for the worse.

[@Sodeadrn]

Shutup

[@AiluriM]

That moment of Charlie explaining how people reference his old vids honestly hurt me. I felt like I can hear some sort of hurt in Charlie’s voice there.

[@dion_7155]

viper boy needs to lower the volume

[@FeeshUnofficial]

Partial react youtubers/streamers like you and Coney have lead me to many youtube channels I love and would have otherwise never found

[@_letstartariot]

Viper’s pride won’t allow him to fully admit that he went too far with his argument. His hyperbole almost ruined his legitimate argument. In fact, people like Charlie are being gracious to see past it. Charlie talking about this has boosted Viper’s essay. I’d never heard of the guy until this.

[@refugeemorales8003]

A part of me believes Viper is doing it to stir up the pot to boost his subs. Everyone knows drama boost subs for certain KZbinrs

[@justbg]

@@refugeemorales8003 That would be pretty cruel though, especially given Charlie has mentioned before that he's a fan of him. I think the guy was just talking through angry goggles. His future response will be the determining factor in my book.

[@bonfist7277]

It ain’t pride, it’s profit lmao

[@jointfreeman3971]

@@refugeemorales8003 nah viper is to stupid to resort to such tactics

[@ProLumbo]

@@refugeemorales8003 I don't think that's true at all. Dude is just angry and saying dumb shit

[@dxrks2561]

There was genuine disappointment and sadness in Charlie’s tone talkin about how much time he puts in his vids

[@lisoo9045]

@UC53Z5zlPcm_KV_h66xp1owQ why don't you comment with the channel this video is on? So you can delete all evidence of your begging by deleting this channel?

[@unofficialAJP]

Lies, there was no tone.

[@milea9617]

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[@unofficialAJP]

@@djdndi elaborate.

[@SuperQuarterNote]

Poor guy making over 6 figures a month needs to put time into his work 😢

[@jayla.o2792]

I'm super proud of you for spending the time and passion in to putting more effort and care in to your work I'm so proud bc my butt just got done roasting GE and all other creators that build a brand and get lazy on their products for money sakes to make it look good for a short time of work

[@Oldanarkybob]

Charlie *moist* is easily the scales of justice we need. Well spoken, well researched, and if not? Well responded to. No complaints here, keepin it moist on my end