Town Hall Meeting Part 2

[@volatilelyle5170]

"Give me what I want and I'll go away." I was a child when I watched this movie but that line always stayed with me.

[@emeraldtabbycat148]

Stephen King's movies always had that lasting impact. It's what made them so effective.

[@workittworkit]

This was never about the kids. It was about seeing the absolute worst in people. Notice how everyone was concerned for all the kids yet no one volunteered their own.

[@donwon7592]

If there’s a devil with this power then there must be a God NO WAY AM I GIVING UP A CHILD FREE WILLINGLY.

[@comer_es_vivir878]

Amen tho‼️❤️

[@friendme12345]

Perfectly stated.

[@fifty9forty3]

I think the winner or loser of the grab bag of stones was predetermined by Linoge. He seemed to have a "fixin" on the Anderson boy from the beginning.

[@FromAgen]

Not exactly, the situation is more subtle. Of course André Linoge knows who is his protégé, because he has a power of prescience, he's an extremely experienced clairvoyant. The stones who are an oracle confirm the vision of Linoge via a procedure in due form.

[@dkupke]

FromAgen taking the child of the one pure person will hurt them the worst. And make it all the sweeter for him. He knew.

[@Bsfnelz20]

Yup from the start

[@Guyvermectin]

No shit Sherlock

[@skyblazeXIII]

"Stand firm in your Faith, even if it means standing alone." "To be a friend of the world means you are an enemy of God, stand against the world you will be a friend of Jesus Himself" When I was a kid I read those lines in the Bible and/or they were being quoted for me to hear. Though, I never truly understood what those words meant till I got older and began seeing situations like this in books, movies, animes and games. Hell, even in real life! And I finally understood. That man, that father, was not only fighting for the soul of his own son in that town's meeting, but for all of THEM. Every single one of those COWARDS. Yet those people gave into fear. They gave into Linoge, gave into the darkness. They are weak and cowardice. And Yahweh does not tolerate cowardice.

[@skyblazeXIII]

@isaiah j. Delluvia "Fools have no interest in understanding; they only want to air their own opinions." - Proverbs 18:2

[@skyblazeXIII]

@isaiah j. Delluvia Free will, brother. You choose to believe what you want, I believe what I want. I'm not forcing my beliefs on you or anybody else. Just sharing the words of Christ.

[@kenw.1112]

WELL SAID! 😊 THANK YOU !😊

[@caramelspice7244]

Such an adequate representation of society: weak people who probably believe they are the most Christian and godly, surrendering to the devil instead. And the preacher is the most pathetic of the bunch. Smh.

[@wildforce1417]

That's not entirely true. He's not the Devil, but actually a wizard (looked him up), but still evil. Concept of the movie was to show how Good😇 and Evil😈 can enter/leave as they please. Majority of the villagers were committing sins, crimes, and murders behind each other's back. Plus going to church, then getting away with it. This explains how Andre Linoge came in. Quotes: "👄Born in lust, turn to dust👄." "💎Born in vice, say it twice💎." "🔫Born in sin, come on in🔫." Thanx for listening. May the Force be With Us All.

[@natalieps2387]

@@wildforce1417 I think hes more of a demon. Around since the beginning of time like he said he was old as anything but was young compared to mortals. He also had those stones when the earth was young wait though he did say actually he wasnt one of the immortals bc he does die but he lives for thousands of years . I also loved his quotes born in lust turn to dust born in sin come on in. Also he was funny in a dark way when hed expose the towns people & had a thing about ridiculing Davey Hogan for being too short to play basketball.

[@rogeroxford3554]

@Joe Turner nah he is a demon and ancient wizard at the same time he abilities are similar to Flagg’s aka the men in black. Flagg learn magic from his father and become a demon in the process.

[@ThePartisan13]

@@wildforce1417 Doesn't matter what he is, it's what he represents. He represents evil or the devil. Therefore OP's analogy still stands.

[@PrayThenBreathe1528]

@@natalieps2387 that’s how the devil tries to get people. By nervously laughing and making themselves likable. I fell for it too.

[@jamesearls8264]

Micheal was the only person with nobility all the others were cowards he stood against andre and had no fear of the devil that's a man of god right there to stand up in the face of evil that's why andre wanted ralphie so much because he wanted to corrupt a man of God's son. It was rigged from the start I think this is stephen king's best film

[@ThePartisan13]

And probably most underrated

[@MrShaggyshow]

The devil walked away with his trophy 🏆....

[@Tahokmusic]

The Guy that plays Rob the Town Manager has been in a lot of Stephen King movies....He was in Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile, The Mist

[@BODLive08]

He is also Dale from Walking Dead

[@ReelSchool]

Jeffrey DeMunn

[@NoNameNo.5]

Our name is Legion, for we are many......

[@Brianmac007]

i was 9 or 10 when i saw this back in the late 90s. to this day its remained as a television memory that gave me the creeps. watching it now its not scary at all but that memories of seeing it as a child will never go away

[@vanillabadboy4469]

You dont give up a child. Such a heartbreaking movie

[@willkruzzette9434]

My Pa's name is Mark, and when he said, "Book of Mark!", my dad said Hell Yeah!

[@intensivecarebear792]

The admittance terms to Hogwarts were very strict back in the day.

[@chrissatterwhite711]

😂😂

[@RFerrer]

Well, he's certainly got one plus. At least he's not a hypocrite in his douchebaggery like this whole freaking town. Sucks, though, that the guy who suffered the worst consequences was the only decent one among them.

[@jonbourgoin182]

Hatch was good too. He was the only one that Linoge had no dirt on.

[@Music-oi7oj]

@@jonbourgoin182While he didn’t have dirt, he still was for the kids being taken.

[@Music-oi7oj]

Well said, I felt so bad for Constable Mike. I do agree with Andre though, they did play themselves and Andre wasn’t hypocritical about anything. It sucks the two most likable characters, the guy was the one who suffered the most. And then Andre, who was the antagonist. Tim Daly and Colm Feore nailed the roles

[@plupkination]

Ok where is part 3? Daam!

[@Yeauthought]

get thee behind me satin for thou savorest not the things that be of god book of Mark ...

[@GestapoPussyRanch]

Anderson put that cleric in his place!

[@bio-hazard221]

Comfy bed sheets

[@lordflashheart3706]

@@bio-hazard221 or some sweet drapes

[@vicsage890]

Except thats from Matthew, not Mark.

[@friendme12345]

The Roanoke folks chose wisely.

[@pelgrin21]

I don't know what would be the right approach in this situation give a child or sacrifice everyone.ive seen the movie and that is what I like about Stephen king it makes you think.

[@plstne48]

To me it's quite easy: It's better to sacrifice yourself for the sake of love than to sacrifice a child to save your own life.

[@castalia60able]

Rene - Ferrer - thanks for your reply. I appreciate it. I wish there was another part to this movie.

[@thesultrystrangerdanger6824]

You know he haunts this you know he haunts this KZbin section because he has to love this as a human being has a psychotic he has to love this

[@thesultrystrangerdanger6824]

Camle fenuouure

[@kenw.1112]

THIS MOVIE IS REALLY GOOD. THE EVIL DUDE WIZARD OR DEVIL ANDRE PLAYED THE PART EXCEPTIONALLY WELL. INTENSE ACTING .

[@AndreNitroX]

The good man is the voice actor for Superman in the animated series

[@ReelSchool]

Tim Daly

[@AndreNitroX]

@@ReelSchool yes!

[@michaelahearn3873]

Haha know that I think about it remember that movie ridick and that scene where he’s like I bow to know man that was Linoge he was talking to lol I don’t miss much

[@larryhall2805]

I wonder if coffee & donuts were served at this meeting.

[@castalia60able]

Rene Ferrer - perhaps that "demon" or whatever he is knew who he wanted ALL ALONG.. He wanted the child of the most decent citizen in that town. I really was so devastated by his loss because I don't think I could give up a child so easily.

[@dkupke]

That is part of the point of his torment. It wasn't easy for him, but it was for the rest of them-because they weren't the one who had to take the loss.

[@castalia60able]

The towns people had conscience so a lot of them had their own demons to deal with and as you see some committed suicide because of the pain one parent loss.. How can they feel otherwise? I would love to read the book to get insight on the demon's reasons behind his decision and if I am right he wanted the one child from the most decent family.

[@dkupke]

Catherine Lopez There was no actual book, per se. King just released the script in book format. However, it was obviously deliberate that they left the choice making process ambiguous; Linoge certainly seems to target the constable and revels in taking his child. But as he says, "perhaps you fooled yourselves," since after all, if they had not cooperated with him he would not have gotten any child at all.

[@dkupke]

John Fisher There is a linger theory that the character Andre Linoge may be just another incarnation of Stephen King's perennial villain, Randall Flagg.

[@GestapoPussyRanch]

except he is a wizard, not a demon.

[@castalia60able]

Rene - I tried to get the book but there is only the Screen Play which I read online. However when I was trying to get the book my son said he saw the Screen Play but it is 400 pages.

[@thesnare100]

If there is a novelization it was made after the mini series because that's what it was made as at first

[@natalieps2387]

I hated that molly was a coward and lost her child . I think if they stood up to him they would have lived. At the worst at least they would die knowing they didnt sacrifice a child to this devil . I'm not sure if he the devil bc he can live. I felt so bad for the constable he was the only one who objected and he loses his son . I figured he must have had a begrudging respect for him as his only sin is cheating on a test while the others he calls out did much worse. I think he rigged it to take the constables child. He is so right once they start down the slippery slope they would go all the way. He picked this town knowing they were cowards. So when they take Molly's son and she flipped out pissed me off. I think if they stood up to him they would have lived like linoge said " u tricked ourselves " that preacher really should be ashamed besides molesting his nieces he is spouting religion . Also at worst if they all die at least they would have done the right thing . Cant believe that woman says it's an adoption and the guy says a good life. Wow they are evil.

[@bio-hazard221]

No they are scared And most child molesters preach religion

[@natalieps2387]

@@bio-hazard221 and priests. My catholic grammar school had one of the worst serial child molesters. He would work at a catholic school molest until someone spoke out theyd pay the family off & instead of the catholic church getting rid of him moved him to the next school same pattern in total he was moved to 9 private schools all elementary schools as well not hs bc his preference were pre puberty kids. The cops finally caught him screwing a child in his home or car. He was de frocked( they took away him being a priest ) u can google him even he was one of the worst & I unfortunately got to cross paths with him at my school his 5th place. Just dispicable. Not saying all priests are pedophiles but am curious if they pick that job bc they will be around children or after years of being celibate they target kids. I think it's the former that they pick that job. Bc if it was just that they have to be celibate why pick kids instead of an adult to secretly have an affair with

[@comer_es_vivir878]

I know right?! It was crazy to me that they even debated like that’s not a question, iTs A fReAkIn KiD for crying out loud you don’t give away children to demons that’s not okay and you can’t make it okay!

[@Music-oi7oj]

Say what you want, Colm Feore nailed the role beautifully! 👏

[@Bsfnelz20]

Wow micheal even called it he’s bluffing

[@greenybros]

This is an allegory, in the Movie the ‘child’ they have chosen to ‘give away’ is a symbol of Jesus Christ, in real life thats what happened to the Christian Church , they all decided it was ok to make human sacrifice.

[@dieterludwig3006]

Regardless whether he was bluffing or not i would've died for my children or with them because the lord would defend me for standing against the demons. I couldnt live with what mike did. I wouldve killed myself. I do believe he was bluffing because why didnt he just take the child and leave. Why all the BS?!?! Because he had to convince them. Plus if i was mike molly wouldnt have lived past that town hall meeting. I wouldve ended her. Never understood why mike didnt control the crrowd with that gun. I wouldve killed as many as possible to get my son and leave. Guess thats just the man and father in me.

[@brandonobaza8610]

I see far, and know much

[@petej9982]

I wonder why none of the woman offered to let him make his own baby?

[@Godenschemering7]

Beside Linoge, perhaps.

[@Parasmunt]

The moral thing to do is to let him take one of them. To not let perfect be enemy of good. And to devote what's left of their lives to living better. But then again, if he gets one he propagates himself another Linoge for thousands of years. He is undeniably an evil creature. Very cleverly drawn villain.

[@friendme12345]

Stephen King is a dark soul... brilliant writer, but dark soul.

[@jolliebearforchrist5468]

JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS FOR OUR SINS AND HE WAS BURIED AND HE ROSE AGAIN ON THE THIRD DAY THE BIBLE JOHN CHAPTER 3 VERSES 16 THROUGH 21 AND 1ST CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 15 VERSES 1 THROUGH 5 THE BIBLE

[@MrSinister616]

I question whether or not he could make them walk off into the water. If he could do it, why not do it, and take whoever he wants? And if the kids could die when he let go why didn't they when he did it? Seems like a lot of hype and tricks.

[@ThePartisan13]

Where's the fun in that?

[@xrustynailsx]

0:28 he blinks when he says "I CAN PUNISH" indicating that there wasn't much truth under that threat. His power was clearly limited to a few people at a time. He was never shown to be making more than 2 or 3 towns folk commit murder or suicide at a time. If they all did what Mike Anderson suggested they would have triumphed over him. He was clearly worried when Mike tried to dissuade the Towns folk and refuse. He preyed upon their fear as a last resort. Moreover, he is a complete hypocrite in regards to his own evil. He commits acts on wanton murder, and then exposes the towns people for their sins as if he is somehow more innocent than them.

[@BoyKagome]

Abortion rates in the US and you're going to tell me not one selfish parent was willing to put their needs ahead of their child? Not very realistic.

[@icouch]

This movie is kind of pointless. Linoge exposes everyone's dark secrets but then what? He asks for a child and then leaves? Not sure what message this movie was sending, if any.

[@shawnweeks7479]

Maybe he can take Biden out of the office

[@loganwkl4871]

Biden is at the office by the will of God, as everything in Earth. Respect lord’s decision and knee and obey

[@imcallingjapan2178]

Well the right wingers have all sold their souls to a demon in order to make that happen, but fortunately it didn't work out

[@ThePartisan13]

Yes, sell yourself to a demon just to get Biden out of office. Like a good ol donny dipshit cultist.