Krishnamurti: “I Am That”, The Essence of Intelligence and the roots of human confusion and conflict

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davidarredondo_md

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@discoteque7768
@discoteque7768 4 ай бұрын
Be aware of your conditioning. Be aware of your inner conflicts. Reflect on the origin of these conflicts. The entirety of my being is conditioned. Any choice I make is thus conditioned. My thoughts, beliefs, preferences... are all conditioned. Understand the consequences of being conditioned. It leads to pain, suffering, inner conflict, wars... There is a sense of separation that fosters competition, "I am better than," "I am less than," hatred, rejection, attachment... Conditioning persists because we are not fully aware of the dangers of it. We are deceiving ourselves. Do not rely on external sources (teachers, gurus, wise persons, experts...). Any attempt to eliminate the ego is the ego itself. Do not try to solve the conflict or escape from it, just be aware of the conditioning. Don’t do anything, or you will reinforce it. If you just remain with it without reacting, it will dissipate on its own.
@TheSutov
@TheSutov 4 ай бұрын
Correct. Dr. Robert Sapolsky arrived at he same conclusion in his book Determined: there is no free choice. (also, choice is already conditioned!). People don't like this -harder-way. Therefore, war is easier than peace. The horror.
@mikedonald1974
@mikedonald1974 3 ай бұрын
First, listening to Krishnamurti and now listening to Dr Sapolsky has changed my life. When I realized there is no reason to hate anybody.
@mirian593
@mirian593 3 ай бұрын
Great comments ❤
@jeffreycabanellas8113
@jeffreycabanellas8113 3 ай бұрын
Hmm?I had an nde and for a short time I felt whole and was free of fear as I had to accept my state .When I was revived I tried to tell others that I experienced an unconditioned state of being.I didn’t become liberated (moksha) but. fell back into darkness-I did have several experiences of unconditioned awareness but similar to the cyclical swings of a pendulum our consciousness always descends back to conditioned states.Just as a wave has a high and low point our consciousness seems to do the same.
@dhiruparmar8908
@dhiruparmar8908 3 ай бұрын
Hello Do you have a Technique for not getting involved in the talking mind and be in the present moment. Thank you.
@jerzyw7467
@jerzyw7467 3 ай бұрын
One of the best lecture. The essence of this teaching is: if someone says jump (any daily event, situation, stimuli) think about it, be aware that your conditioning wants to react. This moment reduces the power of stimulus.
@manojkumarn2464
@manojkumarn2464 4 ай бұрын
Initially I was not able to understand his teachings.... Now I love to listen his teachings....
@motiveintentionsincerity
@motiveintentionsincerity 3 ай бұрын
Why are you labelling that JK is teaching. That would imply another label that JK is a teacher. Just listen without labeling
@JechtNH
@JechtNH 2 ай бұрын
@@motiveintentionsinceritywe have to use words you know
@dr.chrisstar3527
@dr.chrisstar3527 Ай бұрын
Understand completely, takes 3 times to settle into my mind and soul, peace
@mirian593
@mirian593 3 ай бұрын
I can listen to Krishnamurti all day long and the more I listen to him the more I learn, he has shared so much insights with the world, I hope many people can see it, it took me while to understand his language because I couldn’t comprehend what he was talking about for a long time, but I took a break for while and after I refreshed my mind I could then understand him. Thank you for sharing this ❤.
@AM-sd3rh
@AM-sd3rh 3 ай бұрын
There is only one reality he points towards , but words to describe it are none , so he tries his best to find words to point us to that . When you see that , there's nothing further to say . When jk is with himself, he is absolutely quiet. Not a word , not even about reality.
@endingoftime
@endingoftime Ай бұрын
케이의 말에 따르면, 아무리 자신이 정의롭다 생각하고 또 뭐든 행동해야한다는 상황조차도(조건화,긍정적 생각 등) 사실은 그 사회가 만들어놓은 하나의 또다른 틀이다라는 것. 따라서 아무리 '긍정적'이라 생각하는 행동을 하더라도 그건 하나의 에너지로써 그 사건에 힘만 실어줄 뿐이라는 것. 가장 지성적인 행동이란, 조건화(상황)를 깨닫는 것. 그 결과는 아무런 행동도 하지 않는 것. 와... 어렵다.
@Daffodil956
@Daffodil956 Ай бұрын
U got it 💯 percent, it's very very very hard to understand.
@slusszpassz
@slusszpassz 2 ай бұрын
How pleasant to see people questioning the guru and nobody takes it as an offense and the guru also try to respond the question.
@thetransferaccount4586
@thetransferaccount4586 2 ай бұрын
i think this is his best speech ever.. this is the closet one gets to enlightenment just through a speech
@Daffodil956
@Daffodil956 Ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯
@tom7471
@tom7471 Ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite of his talks! So clear. It is the starting point he has always spoken of, and there is nowhere else to go... ever.
@ahmetdogan5685
@ahmetdogan5685 4 ай бұрын
I'm not only conditioned but shampooed too.
@positvgal8
@positvgal8 3 ай бұрын
😂❤
@michaelmahy5810
@michaelmahy5810 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@AM-sd3rh
@AM-sd3rh 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣 it should be fun to even enquire this question
@vandanasrivastava7169
@vandanasrivastava7169 3 ай бұрын
What is wrong with being shampooed?
@seedfromatree
@seedfromatree 3 ай бұрын
Rinse and repeat 🔁 😊 🚿
@Ritza.Elefteria.Michaki
@Ritza.Elefteria.Michaki Ай бұрын
It took me some years to understand what he was saying/talking about. In the end I got it,, with the help of holly books and so many other books like Poetry from around the world, and many more, never give up on what you All are surging to achieve, whether it's knowledge or inner peace or inner healing . It's never to late. Enjoy your journey 😊❤
@Daffodil956
@Daffodil956 Ай бұрын
Greatest of great insight Leave it alone,no action
@ifyougrewupinbrightsgrove4840
@ifyougrewupinbrightsgrove4840 2 ай бұрын
I, once you state, I Am, you then enter the conditioned mind. Where all conditioning exists, for good or bad. When you sense passing I am, to am - hot, cold, happy, sad, step back into the I am. This is where the tree of life lives, free from karma, never ending garden of eden, the other path out of eden is to the tree of knowledge. The knowledge of I am, bringing into the branching tree of knowledge. Birds of the sky live by way of the tree of life. Neither storing, nor hoarding grain, mankind live in the tree of knowledge. Leaving the present forward, they experience anxiety and hoard. Looking back, they feel guilt and depression. In the present, you will find yourself. In the future and past, you lose yourself, as you exist in neither. The present eternity, awaits your presence. You will arrive, that takes time and space. They have both been provided to you, enjoy your journey.
@Iam_Trying
@Iam_Trying Ай бұрын
appreciate that I can rewind and watch again and again till I get what Jiddu is trying to convey.
@rogerlin9602
@rogerlin9602 3 ай бұрын
14:43 You know when you are pained. Do you approach conditioning externally, or internally? 17:56 Any form of psychological choice is conditioning. It's the result of viewing it as pleasant or unpleasant. 22:06 When you keep good conditioning and putting away unpleasant conditioning, you are playing game with yourself. 25:00 When you see the immense danger, it's finished. Why don't you see the immense danger of being held by conditioning? Are you waiting for an external event of great pain before you would give up conditioning? You are waiting for an external event to make you intelligent. 28:20 No one can help you to break down your walls. Any positive act I take is still an action of thought. 31:23 Positive action is totally inaction. I observe. I see every response is from that condition. Thanks Krishna. 4 July 2024.💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝
@ashleythor1803
@ashleythor1803 3 ай бұрын
Monday July 8 an incredible and insightful man,when you reach a point of understanding with what his message is one is transformed forever 🙏🌎🙏
@guysweenie
@guysweenie 2 ай бұрын
Beware! Don;t add any new conditioning!
@thekevflock
@thekevflock 4 ай бұрын
Finally he is getting more recognition
@thekevflock
@thekevflock 4 ай бұрын
But reposting doesn’t show understanding
@DavidEArredondo
@DavidEArredondo 4 ай бұрын
True
@sumangupta829
@sumangupta829 4 ай бұрын
​@@thekevflockwhat else do u want from him.
@Zoki_Joy_of_Being
@Zoki_Joy_of_Being 2 ай бұрын
31:00 to the end So beautiful and powerful...just observe..don't act ❤
@PeacefulPegasus-dr6jo
@PeacefulPegasus-dr6jo 3 ай бұрын
We all know deep down we are lost and that fear enslaves us. The unwillingness to accept ourselves in all our confusion. We say I will be happy when _______ but it eludes us.
@leroyessel2010
@leroyessel2010 2 ай бұрын
Awareness of being lost is salvation from struggle.
@henrykoek7204
@henrykoek7204 4 ай бұрын
see it and leave it al - one free from culture is real `cultural` freedom .Thank you davidarredondo
@Mansour-nt5je
@Mansour-nt5je 2 ай бұрын
we lack such souls in our time now.
@Zara-um1nx
@Zara-um1nx 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much ❤❤
@DavidEArredondo
@DavidEArredondo 3 ай бұрын
You’re more than welcome.
@carenkurdjinian5413
@carenkurdjinian5413 Ай бұрын
That’s Very True ……In Some Very Sense …..🌞
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
Can we see for ourselves 🫶 And the seeing of our conditioning is the Essence of Intelligence 🪷🪷🪷🪷🪷🦋🕊️🌻
@juvenalhahne7750
@juvenalhahne7750 19 күн бұрын
Se a essência da inteligência é a visão ou descoberta de nosso condicionamento, poderíamos dizer que a ciencia é o descondicionamento da crença?
@carenkurdjinian5413
@carenkurdjinian5413 Ай бұрын
Every Time Listening To Krishnamurti - New Thoughts - To Think 😂Without Condemning Your Mind ……Very Interesting……🌞
@johnwibbels4678
@johnwibbels4678 2 ай бұрын
Conditioning is a process! You must process the conditioning! It sucks 😢the awareness that can be found is the path to a place of peace
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
Choice is conditioning 🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸 Choiceless awareness 🌸🌸🌸🫶🫶 perception 🪷🌸🪷🌸🪷🌸🪷🪷
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
Why don’t we see 👀👀👀👀 the Danger of being 👀Held in a small narrow space 👀
@windomaha1668
@windomaha1668 29 күн бұрын
@annacatlin I don't think there is any unconditioning, unconditional, no original thought. It's all conditioning. Like a library of levels of conditioning that moves like the tides. Constantly beckoning you to partake. Giving you more and more of itself sometimes big waves that wipe you out, sometimes little ones that have you begging for more. And the myriad of levels of it in between. Balance is perceptual as one person's balance is a gaunlet on a topsy turvy for another. It's all constructs of the mind which was,is will be soaking in the soup of conditioning, dripping in it. Unconditional is a distant land possibly never before discovered, a mirage if you will at best.
@juvenalhahne7750
@juvenalhahne7750 19 күн бұрын
Deus é a imagem da consciência não condicionada, ilimitada como a natureza. Não podia deixar de me lembrar, aqui, de Spinoza...
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🪷🪷🪷🪷🪷🪷🪷🙏🦋🙏🦋🙏🦋🕉️🕉️🕉️🕉️🕉️🕉️
@richardscott2235
@richardscott2235 Ай бұрын
Excellent. K pointing up our blindness to self. We do not see conditioning, because we become that; but in mirroring, that is, in relationship with objective others, behaviour can be pointed at - and there is then the opportunity for beginning self-inquiry; to know Self.
@KassJuanebe
@KassJuanebe Ай бұрын
Indian version of "You can't see the beam in your own eye, while pointing out the splinter in your neighbors."
@amarjit311
@amarjit311 11 күн бұрын
It is a very important talk of J.k. If you can understand it then no need to understand Gita, Bible, Upanishads.
@cool77arrow
@cool77arrow 2 ай бұрын
The living embodiement of the Upanisads he is.
@bobsarfatty4673
@bobsarfatty4673 Ай бұрын
A true man of truth.
@garykalo2908
@garykalo2908 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant
@windomaha1668
@windomaha1668 Ай бұрын
The difficulty is the ignorance, overlayed so deeply, layered veils!
@gk_1336
@gk_1336 3 ай бұрын
Great words: Non action is intelligence. i.e all action is from conditioning. Now I could understand why sages like ramana maharshi were enlightened just by sitting (tapas).
@lovestars9635
@lovestars9635 2 ай бұрын
What a man !!!🙂🙂🙂
@apassafaro
@apassafaro 4 ай бұрын
To question all authority seems to be out there… to truly question authority of any kind ultimately means to acknowledge your conditioning without acceptance, or resistance of any kind… freedom begins when we acknowledge and observe our conditioning and with that observation, conditioning ends
@DavidEArredondo
@DavidEArredondo 4 ай бұрын
If only it were that simple!
@kengwong13
@kengwong13 4 ай бұрын
Non action to arising within our consciousness is intelligence. Wow....Buddhicitta in a sentence.
@BobbyMcDonald-wq7il
@BobbyMcDonald-wq7il 4 ай бұрын
I am; A constant transformational evolving evolutionary indigenous being to all there is.
@shashi_fv
@shashi_fv 12 күн бұрын
My God!!!!! BG Chapter 4 Verse 18, I get it now, I understand it. 🙏🙏 Gosh, it always fascinated me but i had never truly understood it.
@sivanarulsiva5616
@sivanarulsiva5616 Ай бұрын
Conditioning itself can't be explained dangerous. As the outside world's conditioned mind interacting with you is unconditioned for you. So unconditioned is much more dangerous than what you have been conditioned to do. He is talking about the extremes. All I can say is that the balance is extremely important so that our consious choices are more biased to our condition but we must allow some unconditioned things also in to our territory to find the balance.
@juvenalhahne7750
@juvenalhahne7750 19 күн бұрын
Não entendi o que você disse, mas desconfio que algo parecido ao que formulo de outro jeito. O condicionamento é necessário quanto as ações técnicas e ao reconhecimento das leis, mas não quanto a esfera do sentido que atribuímos a vida e ao mundo. E neste segundo aspecto, psicologico, acredito, que JK nos esclarece sobre o perigo do condicionamento: o de ficarmos presos num espaço estreito incapaz de ver a realidade sempre nova...
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
Any form of physiological choice is conditioning 🌸🦋🌸🦋🌸🦋
@doityerself99
@doityerself99 2 ай бұрын
So, what am I to do? And as the perceived teacher, all I can teach is that you, the student, already know!!
@carenkurdjinian5413
@carenkurdjinian5413 Ай бұрын
Mind Will Under Stand Eventually…..🌞
@vandanasrivastava7169
@vandanasrivastava7169 2 ай бұрын
The noise is always there because he mostly speaks in open air venues.
@DustinMiller-n1p
@DustinMiller-n1p 12 күн бұрын
Ppl started telling my wholeness who it was right away before I even knew what was what. Once u see you've been giving a piece of your wholeness away to everybody it starts becoming whole again. If your anything then you awareness I am knows I just separated my self from the whole. Universe consciousness please allow all to see are truth.
@entertainmenttemple661
@entertainmenttemple661 4 ай бұрын
It’s just like a child who is let out into a mansion! The child then makes up stories to feel himself safe. That’s it. The mansion is the creation. And everyone is a kid here, including the saints, Philosophers, scientists, artists, common people and animals too!
@Wuming-rn8ee
@Wuming-rn8ee 3 ай бұрын
Be aware of the conditioning and don't act. Non-action is intelligence. Action is unintelligence.
@johnwibbels4678
@johnwibbels4678 2 ай бұрын
The past is the poison pill that one takes for the present moment Self awareness the moment you experience is only what is truly needed. Life is like the tip of a burning candle. What is burning? The candle or the flame the tip. Where do you exist?
@alfreddifeo9642
@alfreddifeo9642 3 күн бұрын
🙏
@carenkurdjinian5413
@carenkurdjinian5413 Ай бұрын
KriSte……..In The Mind …..🌞
@gameofthrones5655
@gameofthrones5655 4 ай бұрын
Yeah...we dream it all up in our own mind or call it whatever....if consciously or not...or half half. Who created thought and from where thought does arise...??? When u realize u just do.
@mayaciza8337
@mayaciza8337 Ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@dr.dhirajsinhamedicalconsu577
@dr.dhirajsinhamedicalconsu577 Ай бұрын
🌹🌹🙏🙏
@harshavardhanb455
@harshavardhanb455 3 ай бұрын
Conditioned knowledge or thinking which comes out owing to conditioned learning. The question is, the outcome of it. We should try to comprehend over this and try to find out the truth through intelligence, i.e., by observing the thoughts of mind.
@carenkurdjinian5413
@carenkurdjinian5413 Ай бұрын
Already Programmed……🌞
@rhondamathis1323
@rhondamathis1323 3 ай бұрын
The little things
@hassinagk8576
@hassinagk8576 20 күн бұрын
I love listenning to him but I still don’t get what he is talking about…
@DavidEArredondo
@DavidEArredondo 19 күн бұрын
keep listening. There are explanatory videos also.
@sarc992
@sarc992 Ай бұрын
13:07 "Everything has got be explained, huh?"
@windomaha1668
@windomaha1668 Ай бұрын
The conditioning begins in the womb
@windomaha1668
@windomaha1668 Ай бұрын
Possibly in the Astral realm, a place they say our souls reside which is more conditioning, it's all lies!
@windomaha1668
@windomaha1668 Ай бұрын
T h e illusion is collapsing rapidly, can you feel it?
@GS-um6ww
@GS-um6ww 2 ай бұрын
You are conditioned by condition ... not wanting to go to another person or a Guru is also Conditioning ....
@vamshichindaluru5519
@vamshichindaluru5519 2 ай бұрын
That’s not conditioning. That’s realisation
@Neti-Netti
@Neti-Netti 10 күн бұрын
Where are the economic interests and even the seeking for power in all that?
@carenkurdjinian5413
@carenkurdjinian5413 Ай бұрын
That’s The 😂First - Thing My Mother Taught …. 🌞
@Neti-Netti
@Neti-Netti Ай бұрын
I know I am conditioned because I investigate my thoughts feelings perception and sensations…
@docmix
@docmix 3 ай бұрын
👍👍👍🙏
@carenkurdjinian5413
@carenkurdjinian5413 Ай бұрын
That Is The Problem…..🌞
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
Pleasure keep Pain throw it away. Talking of total conditioning. And understood it very carefully. Q. Ask Is it possible to be unconditioned at superficial levels of consciousness And at the deeper layers ????? Greater depth of conditioning totally. Not out of idle curiosity but to see what this conditioning has done in the world. 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️Billions spent on armoury 🥺
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
That is the conditioning 🥹🥺😵‍💫
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
Each protecting themselves 😵‍💫 🦋🦋🦋🌻🐿️
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
A recovering Catholic
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
We are playing a game deceiving ourselves 👀
@arulrajsankaran9335
@arulrajsankaran9335 Ай бұрын
Only something that is unconditioned can be conditioned and so you are that unconditioned which has been conditioned by karma
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
Do we see the danger of Ambition ? The immense danger of Ambition 👀👀👀🧐 e.g a Prime Minster etc
@cheri238
@cheri238 4 ай бұрын
🙏❤️🌎🌏🌎🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
🎵🕊️🪷
@jeffreycabanellas8113
@jeffreycabanellas8113 3 ай бұрын
Has anyone noticed how noisey the venues are when JK speaks?Sounds like an airport?
@leroyessel2010
@leroyessel2010 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes the crows provide excellent distraction with all their vocal chatter to exercise our awareness of the moment.
@guysweenie
@guysweenie 2 ай бұрын
This was in the 80s when JK used to speak at Ojai Krishnamurthi Retreat and Center, in CA It was an open arena and planes used to fly over all the time from the nearby airport.
@rohaanashraf8589
@rohaanashraf8589 2 ай бұрын
I have noticed how still my own mind is when I listen to him
@aftychodhu758
@aftychodhu758 2 ай бұрын
Can you truly understand the mind if you don’t know who made the mind
@davidhissey4851
@davidhissey4851 4 ай бұрын
Greatest danger is hearing supposed knowledge of Absolute Truth from someone who is not connected with one of the bona fide disciplic succesions of Vedic knowledge , as is this man.
@jkm3297
@jkm3297 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like effective conditioning
@nickidaisydandelion4044
@nickidaisydandelion4044 2 ай бұрын
He warns about gurus and also said to not use him as a guru. He wants you to explore for yourself and learn from the bottom up. Not download.
@lyellmurray7355
@lyellmurray7355 2 ай бұрын
How does the unconditioned mind negotiate breakfast?
@DavidEArredondo
@DavidEArredondo 2 ай бұрын
Depends on what’s available and on whether one is hungry or not.
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
What to do??? = to do is part of my conditioning culture go to priest guru therapists etc 🙄
@eligijusselkys7083
@eligijusselkys7083 3 ай бұрын
♥666♥
@getachewkumera9633
@getachewkumera9633 3 күн бұрын
Philippians 2:3-5
@gameofthrones5655
@gameofthrones5655 4 ай бұрын
Are u the Master of ur mindshow- dreamy events in the days and nights or are u its puppet...u could also say it like that.
@fifes0ul
@fifes0ul 4 ай бұрын
Neither, their both ego, a master ego or puppet ego. Both ego.
@gameofthrones5655
@gameofthrones5655 4 ай бұрын
@@fifes0ul What is called Ego is just a sort of created self moment by moment...a change off mind , awareness...who moves. That not means, u have 2 cling 2 any of or deny it...its just ...what seems 2 happen in the mindplay...its not some is so bad.Its all a bit a theatershow anyway...this Maya...
@lynwood9615
@lynwood9615 3 ай бұрын
I dont think so. Matter of fact i know not.
@RobertAdamsSatsangs10
@RobertAdamsSatsangs10 3 ай бұрын
That's funny! Even facts do not give the legitimacy to impose the fact, or to expect others to see the fact!
@carenkurdjinian5413
@carenkurdjinian5413 Ай бұрын
Like An 😂Onions -Layers Layers…… That Has Consequences……🌞
@carenkurdjinian5413
@carenkurdjinian5413 Ай бұрын
It’s All How The Energies Work ….And It’s Influences The Body The Mind …. The Social Conditioning - With Sooo Many No no -S - In Serious Things To fix and Yessss - for 😂No Sense … All The Writers Wrote and Writing - Which Must Deeply Healed - Like A Naughty Child Plays Only Killing and Destroying - The “Parents Created “…..🌞
@sivanarulsiva5616
@sivanarulsiva5616 Ай бұрын
But in my opinion, surface seeking is considered to be sane. In any extremes we can go into insanity.
@coursefacilitator2342
@coursefacilitator2342 16 күн бұрын
12:33
@davidrossifernandez7551
@davidrossifernandez7551 2 ай бұрын
point bihon del acento ,envión,el asiento cincuenta ...lo irraciónal manifiesta mas temprano que tarde el dicenso lo irracional entraña siempre un riesgo es irracional la condición de un acuerdo por venir esa guerra y otras no se entienden no caben en la cabeza pero como puedes hablar de una mundial mundial es un evento olimpico una primavera no un invierno nuclear y sin embargo ese era el riesgo
@CirakTekeletsione
@CirakTekeletsione 4 ай бұрын
Trash talk
@annacatlin
@annacatlin 4 ай бұрын
I built this enormous limited prison 🌸 🦋🌸🦋🌸🦋🌸🪷🪷🪷🪷🪷🪷
@leroyessel2010
@leroyessel2010 3 ай бұрын
I recall the advice to float above your prison has begun by noticing how elaborate it is.
@fookkongng1786
@fookkongng1786 4 ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
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