Dream SMP: The Syndicate's Secret Member

[@SkellyViper]

Just found out that Techno referred to that member as a "he". It doesn't exactly disprove the theory on a molecular level, but it's unfortunate lol Edit 2: Just found out that Foolish G is most likely Poseidon, MAKING THIS THEORY STILL VALID LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

[@twisted3829]

I know this is completely unrelated to the comment but it could be Dream Since Philza, Techno and Dream were the original people who blew up l'manberg before the Syndicate.

[@SkellyViper]

At the moment, Dream has no way of communicating with Techno or Phil, so I don't think the secret member is Dream.

[@SkellyViper]

@@user-cg2hb3ye9v I'm unsure about Callahan, but Foollish might be a fair assumption. Interesting!

[@guilhermelucas5270]

@@SkellyViper I feel like callahan would be a great twist, and he would become important and start a great character arc like Karl is a timetraveler now but less important. Right?

[@paridhipandey5563]

What if Steve the bear is the secret member

[@celesital5311]

Plot twist: The secret member is George but he just slept through the meeting 😂 (I'm going to look so stupid if it actually is for some reason)

[@-JackFrost-]

It could be him

[@kristijanmadhukar516]

actually your going to look so smart.

[@darlamo2929]

@@kristijanmadhukar516 yeah

[@pig7378]

@EndermanOuch he's in prison and dream don't know about the syndicate

[@pig7378]

@EndermanOuch that does not mean they share memories

[@znvademoved]

I mean, Foolish could technically be considered a child; being Puffy’s son. He keeps a lot of secrets, being a real god. He can properly talk to the egg, and against the egg(EggPIRE)

[@amyarema4714]

True I thought of that

[@xoticlogic7933]

Same and technically being new to the smp considers as a child since his new

[@arxalier2956]

Foolish has connections to ancient Egypt. Guess who else has connections to ancient Egypt? Harpocrates

[@kaixuangan7625]

True

[@Ar-yp6nh]

It could also be Fundy, since he is Wilbur’s canonical child, or Sapnap because I think he’s Bad’s canonical son.

[@nezuko4014]

Everyone: the egg is powerful Techno fans: *CRINGE*

[@kyleistall]

*CRINGE*

[@mochiexpresss7401]

CRINGE

[@sirsovietseal1668]

CRINGE

[@TheoSlaps]

Yes

[@Alex22034]

Cring

[@delaneyhagen690]

Did- Did everyone forget Purpled exists, started a secret mafia and is a child?

[@michellenichols1190]

I was thinking about that 🤔

[@OverwhelminglyAnxiousChaos]

Ikr! I immediately thought about Purpled

[@peak.sidehustles]

Yeah but I doubt Techno would invite Purpled to the syndicate since they’ve like never communicated

[@anonymoususer5936]

@@peak.sidehustles to be fair, technos never really interacted with Niki either

[@peak.sidehustles]

@@anonymoususer5936 true, other than the Battlle of the Tower and the revolution

[@denn1222]

SkellyViper: "So there are only 3 children in the SMP" Purpled: *Am I a joke to you?*

[@John-bd2ko]

Purpled is currently a merc for the eggpire

[@John-bd2ko]

@Sophie Garciaoh yeah purpled being a neutral merc means mercs are tasked and being payed

[@John-bd2ko]

@Sophie Garcia he works with them on behalf of being payed

[@edentague8141]

Don’t forget fundy

[@John-bd2ko]

@@edentague8141 fundy's not a kid

[@savanareherman654]

I’m just saying: Callahan is silent. Harpocrates is the god of silence.

[@halfi8771]

Same

[@Lulz-fi2rf]

THEY GOT THE ADMIN ON THEIR TEAM

[@_username]

@@Lulz-fi2rf ADMIN ABUSE LES GOOOO

[@savanareherman654]

@@Lulz-fi2rf LETS GOOOOOOO

[@north3317]

@@Lulz-fi2rf LETS GOOOOOOOO!!

[@ValueNetwork]

Technos codename refers to a character who’s death was prophesied, yet he doesn’t believe in it. Technoblade never dies!

[@isahaaqmachhar1409]

NOT EVEN CLOSE BABY TECHNOBLADE NEVER DIES!!!

[@personperson1148]

The Greek guy was prophesied to die first so if techno will be the first to die but he never dies no one will die

[@minimoonie6431]

YOOOOOOO

[@StarIsSkibidi]

EXACTLY

[@ascentfox]

hits differently

[@that-one_guy]

Another reason why it can't be Tommyinnit is because Techno has called him Theseus many times before

[@autumnleaf4084]

Plot twist: The secret member isn't even whitelisted on the Dream smp server yet

[@willowshake023]

Plot twist: It's Ninja

[@justbrando4697]

Plot twist: it’s ur mom

[@master_vaughn126]

Plot twist: It’s PewDiePie

[@jerafguy]

That would actually be pretty cool

[@r-171]

AHHHH! The “God Of Silence”, as they have NEVER been seen, or “Heard”, from in the Server.

[@huntermiracle]

By the way, purpled is also a child, I doubt it’s him, but I just thought I’d point out tubbo tommy and ranboo aren’t the only children.

[@TheOrcKatari]

Hey that's true!

[@SkellyViper]

Yep! And I didn't include purpled because he doesn't participate in events at all.

[@danishhaikal7679]

purpled is in the eggpire side because ponk invited him

[@huntermiracle]

@@danishhaikal7679 yes he’s a mercenary who isn’t infected. Thing is that techno does not know that

[@huntermiracle]

@@SkellyViper okay that’s reasonable

[@brambi455]

Didn’t techno refer to harpocrates as a “he”. This could’ve been a mistake but I’d think techno would’ve used “they” to keep it more of a mystery

[@jacelol3452]

Thats interesting because when i heard incarnation i instandly thought of Tommy since Dream has brought him to back life. And Tommy could be he. I have to add tho that Tommy is not sielent,however he is the "Child" of the Server.

[@seven_9014]

An other theory: Karl Jacobs.. I mean with everything from the Tales from the smp and all the theories of him preventing something, it could make sense. Karl also has a LOT of secrets

[@totallynotriley9965]

But he’s not In contact with techno.

[@seven_9014]

@@totallynotriley9965 Maybe he is and that's something we don't know, in the live that techno did with the empty chair, the person obviously didn't contact him during a stream, so it can be Karl, he decided to not tell that info yet

[@hopem7791]

I dont think it's Karl for many reasons. One of them is that currently Karl is doing separate lore streams from the in-between to build his character and another being that Karl doesn't share any traits with the Greek God on the chair. I think the most logical answer would be Callahan or Puffy considering there's more evidence that points to it being one of them... but I wish it was Karl, it would be cool too see him more in lore but sadly it's less likely. 😔

[@Coco_Ren]

Although a lot of people think Karl could be the secret member, I highly doubt it. He is starting a new country after all.

[@laudrella5513]

@@totallynotriley9965 He also has his own huge plot thing going on

[@emily.1559]

puffy literally said 'its time for anarchy' Hint? YES

[@RinneGantai]

She might join later

[@RinneGantai]

She might have similar feelings like techno that is anarchy

[@Drogoz1550]

Coincidence? I think not

[@gachaberry5584]

Even if its not her she might join as well after what happened

[@Justabaker101]

The syndicate isn't the only people that can do anarchy

[@mellogleam3527]

Skellyviper: there are only 3 “children” on the dream smp Purpled:

[@saraiknowsit]

I have a feeling it's Calahan, Techno refers to the final member as a He, not She, so Puffy is ruled out, and Calahan does fit the role of secrecy. He also can be a bit child like, from what I recall, either that or Foolish, I'd my bet. Foolish has solid reasons to join, and while I can't really think of why Calahan would be interested, it's also a possibility. Perhaps Karl, but I have a feeling Techno wouldn't trust him enough to let him know about the syndicate.

[@jozef09]

WAIT! I FORGOT ABOUT HIM! Though the only question is, Is he a child???

[@winterandspark9985]

@@jozef09 From what Ik he is not actually a child

[@jozef09]

@@winterandspark9985 aw rip

[@pd-it6hq]

you know how tommy always does this thing with his chin, he always rubs his chin, like all the time, maybe its him, maybe he does have secrets.

[@carl-iw4rk]

Yeah that's what I think in first because Callahan is actually not talking

[@bagelmaster2498]

I’d say it’s most likely either foolish as Harpocrates was an adaptation with an Egyptian god and he has that base going on, or maybe puffy, but I could see Callahan maybe just to include him

[@fnafchannel3796]

I’m saying it’s probably Foolish. It might be Dream or Puffy.

[@elchente9045]

I think puffy gonna join but probably later tho

[@bagelmaster2498]

@@fnafchannel3796 it can’t be dream as he’s been in prison longer than they’ve really been focusing on the syndicate

[@dark3stknight174]

Callahan would be pog

[@akhilldhilipkumarkalaiyara1601]

I think it’s Hannah I heard somewhere that harpocrates is associated with roses

[@kumoko3728]

what if harpocrates is wilbur because: dead men tell no tales

[@AandJ9]

Either Karl, or Wilbur/ggGhostbur (Three g's since they tried to revive him, but he just died again.)

[@vekuboi]

i just got chills. This makes so much sense!

[@dragxxn2541]

3/4 anarchy sleepy bois

[@avocadotoast6776]

Wilbur did have a secret l’manberg destruction button. Has good relations with Techno in death and living. And is a child of Philza/Ghostbur was very child like.

[@klinxium8627]

@@avocadotoast6776 well ghostbur doesn’t exist anymore, soooo

[@awesomespurr3606]

Yo imagine if one day, a chair was labeled "Theseus"

[@nahlies2382]

No. No tommy redemption arc

[@viiirs3431]

Yes that would be tommy

[@seikatsu.]

Theseus*

[@hussainalaiwi9270]

Welcome home Thesius .

[@minimoonie6431]

LMAOOOO OMFG STOP AJHSKSAJAK

[@burnd]

“Child” Everyone: Ok “God of Silence” Everyone: 0-o

[@cyberrainofficial]

One thing though, Techno specifically referred to the secret member as a “he” the most important part was probably not secrets or being a child then but the “silence” part, most likely referring to Callahan

[@YearOfMe]

Agree

[@katie1925]

Oh i forgot about calahan

[@capdan9708]

Slimecicle Fits it like how he acts or Karl same reasoning

[@dish1484]

I think your right :V

[@oceanmarkmanlangit1564]

But calahan hasn't been really in contact with techno and there are no proof that calahan is against the egg since calahan doesn't really appear that much

[@tkcontrollergame226]

I really think the member is Steve it makes so much sense therefor Steve is a god

[@pathernetic923]

i- you just replied to your... nvm

[@jellycpufi1880]

bruh did you just vouched for yourself

[@SkellyViper]

sbeve is indeed god, canonically and non-canonically

[@oceanmarkmanlangit1564]

I highly agree with you

[@cloverr_moosh]

hey buddy, did you forget to switch to your alt for the reply, or...?

[@ethanfolz1370]

No, Techno has to be foreshadowing something for him to choose Protesilaus. He's probably about to lose his first canon life.

[@deimos5365]

Yeah. There’s dozens of Greek heros and gods. If it was just about being a good warrior he could’ve been Ares (god of war) or possibly Deimos or Phobos (gods of dread and terror before battle and panic and fear during battle respectively). He chose Protesilaus specifically

[@saraiknowsit]

Mhm, it's giving me a bad feeling...

[@glossteam2283]

but perhaps he is actually immortal because if i remember correctly when the egg talked to technoblade (check out the reversed audio) he definitely mentions that he recognizes techno ("have i seen you before"), and threatens technoblade with the line "i can kill anyone, even those who cannot be killed", if this line was used to threaten technoblade it is likely that his canon lives have alterations like phil and is lorewise fundamentally different

[@durps8815]

​@@glossteam2283 That's a good point; maybe his title as the Blood God is canon and so he is immortal in a sense, but since the egg can supposedly kill those who are immortal, he'll lose his first canon life and just put into perspective how powerful the egg is.

[@glitchmeisterz3947]

Ha techno dying now thats a funny joke

[@Mj-ue5vc]

Ok but what about techno saying “HE doesn’t want to be revealed yet”

[@KyosisPlays]

Syndicate? *takes a puff of smoke* Haven't heard that name in a long time.

[@Hu-nf1hv]

Is this a reference to theOddOnesOut

[@KyosisPlays]

@@Hu-nf1hv No, this is a Syndicate reference, cause that's his name.

[@Hu-nf1hv]

@@KyosisPlays ah I see whatyou did there

[@SagarCubes]

Mission impossible reference?

[@Prime_Ramzi]

Just made a vid bout it-

[@wynterfir]

Oh puffy says she’s foolish’s “dad” rather than mother.

[@screwtapee]

@Sammy Sergenko i actually havent heard that

[@wynterfir]

@Sammy Sergenko She’s just Foolish’s dad, She’s referred to as a female in almost every other instance.

[@probablynot.aether2187]

I Think is Callahan he Is Literally the most quiet guy in the smp But idk

[@charlottezv2962]

I think too. He's a lot of secret but he don’t have relationships with techno maybe

[@suzy4840]

Same i was thinking of that too

[@fabianeliud5154]

@@charlottezv2962 the most silent man won’t just appear in plain sight would he? plus it might explain why Callahan was in the last fight against dream

[@Nyx_Cheshire]

i think is dream idk why tho...

[@thyduke3010]

Callahan hasnt done anything lore related then show up. Didnt even have a reaction when bad asked him to join the eggpire so i doubt it. Not to mention his lack of owning anything but a dirt shed.

[@NathansBarelyUploads]

"Child" Everyone: TommyInnit

[@cath_innit4153]

Not wrong tho

[@Lulz-fi2rf]

he did get revived and techno did refer to the person as a he sooo

[@MayaCaguioa]

@@Lulz-fi2rf yep

[@PlamThePlam]

hotel: trivago

[@luzgabrielabarbameza521]

Me: PURPLEDDDD

[@koolkidnamedsage4983]

Before you said you thought it was Puffy, I deadass said “OH MY GOD IT MUST BE PURPLED-”

[@keaton_jb_meme_central]

“He’s the god of silence.” Me: Ah yes, Callahan.

[@Justap1g]

i through he was gonna say "but at the end of the day its just a theory... a game theory"

[@SkellyViper]

one day.

[@theboltonking4204]

@@SkellyViper thanks for watching

[@rociomancilla1]

@@SkellyViper do you purpled may be the 5th member.

[@duckinstonduckie955]

@@rociomancilla1 wot

[@donttalkaboutmypfp]

@@rociomancilla1 oh yeah purple is also a child but he is very unnactive on the server

[@RadLad69]

this group is actually a really good thing for ranboo. he gets to hang out with is friends and he isn’t actually on a side. it’s kinda like a club for ranboo if that makes sense lmao

[@callmekingos1979]

He kinda is though as the syndicate is an organisation which counts as a side as the Syndicate are a side their all allies meaning the syndicate is a side of which Ranboo has chosen

[@Randommanontheinternet9641]

The syndicate is literally a side sooner or later they’re gonna go to war against the egg or snowchester so the syndicate side or egg side or snowchester side

[@AgentLando]

@@Randommanontheinternet9641 But he doesn't have to fight. it's on the syndicate book

[@SkellyViper]

lol yeah

[@crystatittude._7408]

someone tell techno Ranboo married a government

[@lilslicelive]

There is one more child, Purpled he keeps MANY secrets and Does have contact with Techno because of Captain Puffy

[@pd-it6hq]

hey guys are we forgetting purpled, hes also a child.

[@mangoplaymusic3582]

TECHNOBLADE NEVER DIES, so Techno can defy the fact that his code person dies.

[@glossteam2283]

@LAI HORACE (6E09)黎昊儒 is karate kid canon, if not then we do not compare techno to karate kid on a block game

[@durps8815]

I'm a huge fan of Techno, but from a storytelling standpoint, when the Blood God, the most powerful person on the Dream SMP, the One who Never Dies, actually does die.. the impact that would have would be insane lol edit: I forgot; Techno has full canon lives so.. vengeance arc pog?

[@feyytime5571]

I still love the fact how they were all just like: Tommy's Dead? Pog.

[@mitsunitaiko1742]

I'm pretty sure Techno was hurt learning this and hiding it behind his usual troll mask

[@SkellyViper]

lol true

[@cloudiialt3310]

@@mitsunitaiko1742 yeah Techno is known for coping with bad memories by making jokes.

[@Randommanontheinternet9641]

@@mitsunitaiko1742 techno literally said how tommy betrayed 20 times and he hates him I mean makes sense if I was in techno’s boots I wouldn’t like tommy at all

[@arrowpaw1847]

@@Randommanontheinternet9641 yes but in the story line he has been with tommy for months living together in pogtopia/after exile and trusted him alot and when tommy came around bugging techno after screwing him over several times he didnt really do anything he still some what cares about tommy in the story just is very annoyed by him

[@lilyanakittinger349]

"But that's just a theory" A GAME THEORY

[@kingofgames8784]

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[@Hu-nf1hv]

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[@srishenbagachenthuran7462]

Actually we all forgot fundy he is Wilbur's son and pretty secretive

[@HiHello-cw9vc]

True, and he can act childlike sometimes, but idk if that’s because he might be canonically a child or if he acts like that because he couldn’t have a proper childhood because of the wars. It’s pretty hard to tell what age he is, because you’d have to know Wilbur’s age first. I do agree with the secretive part too, because of him being a spy against Schlatt

[@knockkon]

4:25 It must be. He was the first to die irl out of the 4/5 of them

[@kittypaws7743]

When he said “but that’s just a theory” I thought he was gonna go “a game theory”

[@jellycpufi1880]

I already imagined him saying that in my head xD

[@Cvbee]

same same same same aaaaah yes

[@Cragin.]

*A GAMMEEEE THEORYYYYY*

[@captainspeedy0167]

I think foolish going to join and be thanatos. "God of death" since he said "back then i might be totem of dying"

[@captainspeedy0167]

@Jerry Quillen thanks. Hehe

[@froskyx6812]

Was a totem of dying*

[@froskyx6812]

The new member thing is gonna be dream trust me techno is gonna get dream out

[@thefandomtraveller4091]

Huh, that would make sense.

[@trif7416]

Fun Fact: The oi in Anemoi is pronounced like an English e

[@SkellyViper]

oh welp, 5/4 in terms of Greek related words :D

[@Cychlo]

anime?

[@zjthegameryt5388]

E? Did someone said E?

[@jay31wildcats19]

An that’s wrong go to school and stop lying

[@SkellyViper]

@@zjthegameryt5388 E

[@Cattermouse]

So no one talks about Dream a man filled with secrets and has a contact with techno?

[@_helvetixa]

Sameee

[@twinshadowftw7115]

Not a child

[@Cattermouse]

@@twinshadowftw7115 so is captain puffy

[@_helvetixa]

@@twinshadowftw7115 he was once called captain puffy’s child XD

[@BlankedOutSlate]

@@Cattermouse They're theorizing about it being either a child or someone child-like, Dream fits neither of those and he hasn't come into contact with anyone outside the lockdown so he couldn't have possibly known about the Syndicate

[@kustarbush]

skelly: The only 3 children on the dream smp purpled: I am a joke to you? fundy (canon age 14-16): b r u h

[@flyingburger7751]

I thought it was Fundy, here me out. He often feel silenced by others and feels like he is betrayed by his father (Wilber) and he never talks about it to anyone, meaning he knows a lot of secrets.

[@snobsy2877]

that is a solid theory

[@tag_draws]

Yeah I thought about that too, and he is well known as the child, the first child of lmanberg, child of Wilbur soot, childish nature, etc, he is very good with secrets too, as seen with him being the only spy of man berg who didn’t get caught until he chose to show himself, something that Tubbo couldn’t do

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmmm5866]

why is fundy pranking techno then

[@pretendedtobesum1sorrylol797]

Techno is Fundy's uncle too, but he was a part of the butcher army tho

[@tag_draws]

Cat Sasuke that’s just how he is lol

[@L-Stout]

What if its michael the pigman that tubbo and ranboo has been raising and they accidentally meet when michael runs away for some air.anyways that's my theory .,.

[@Spacemeister2377]

Perhaps Michael is biologically Technoblade’s son who he forgot to pay child support for, so Ranboo and Tubbo kidnapped him.

[@nonimacaroni6791]

feels more like a headcanon and less of a theory, still very cool to think about though

[@grassei3370]

"Lets look at the children" *doesn't show purpled who's a child*

[@duceysanem]

He’s not really part of lore

[@redwartakashi9984]

@@duceysanem He's becoming prevalent in the lore or at least starting to. A lot of people are saying Callahan, because silence, but what also adds to it is child(Callahan isn't young), and secret(Callahan has no lore important secrets, or is known to be secretive). Purpled is young, silent in the lore, and also has a ton of secrets that everyone does want to know about, very secretive and quiet child, fits the description if ya ask me, lol.

[@gstreet9005]

@@redwartakashi9984 PERIODT

[@vel9049]

And i think that foolish is the 6th chair

[@aeosmar6166]

Why do I keep envisioning Tommyinnit whenever I hear the word 'child'.

[@cath_innit4153]

Its lore and its stuck in our minds

[@Raymuk]

Please nl more Tommy SMP

[@chaoticangelic]

Because he's the definition of child

[@predefined8118]

I personally think fundy, he was wilburs child in the OG L'manburg war, Extremely quiet on the server and remember when he tried to start a villain arc, Because he was there from the beginning but has never gotten an important role in the government, thus him probably wanting to destroy it, this is why I think fundy...

[@Mustard_rat]

What about Callahan, he never talks, or purpled, hes a child.

[@cvvorr_]

Purpled is actually part of the eggpire! On top of that he hasn't rlly participated in lore recently. And the only thing that matches with callahan is that he doesn't talk. He hasn't been in contact with nearly anyone on top of that (not participating in the lore a lot)

[@bopgoestheweasel7745]

@@cvvorr_ I don't think Purpled is officially part of the Eggpire, he was hired by them. He's gotten a single bounty from them, that's really it. And he agreed because they promised him anything he wants. I don't know if that officially makes him part of it or not.

[@morganawells9507]

I mean, Callahan doesn't really give off those vibes? I mean he does keep secrets being mute and all but also he hasn't had a lot if contact with techno, the only time I can think of possibly is when him and dream blew up l'manburg, or possibly the events leading up to it

[@thebeanman8204]

I think the secret member is eret, he has connections to current members of the syndicate, and expressed intrest in anarchy, however was turned away for being a king. And what is more secretive than a plot to betray the other members of a revolution for your own personal gain? Furthermore, being a king, of course he would want to keep his identity secret from most of the members.

[@Lazyman0909]

Yeah but it doesn't make sense why he would be god of silence

[@jelliefishr2336]

i would love to see eret join the syndicate bc he's one of my fav streamers but i dont see the connection between silence and/or children tbh

[@Lazyman0909]

I'm starting to think its foolish because he's like a god smiting the eggpire the other day

[@Lazyman0909]

Him or Callahan because Callahan doesn't talk

[@owllet1018]

Me: purples is also a child but not the most involved.

[@irissundstrom3813]

Agree

[@chrisarnett4707]

It could be Fundy, as he is male, child like, and has contacted techno, also, I hope the syndicate gets him/Fundy, puffy, and tommy.

[@me-vm7sd]

Correct me if im wrong, but i think it could be fundy, a character whos childhood was ripped from him just so that he could fight in war, So he could be considered childlike. Plus, his own father was killed just because of a government, causing him to never get the approval he so desired from his dad.

[@eimanb3887]

Techno will defy the fact that his code person dies because TECHNOBLADE NEVER DIES

[@anitaremenarova6662]

I'd say Techno losing a canon life could be a possibility, perhaps a display of godly power from the egg.

[@eimanb3887]

@@anitaremenarova6662 Maybe! idk!

[@TheoSlaps]

Kinda reminds me of kratos from the god of war series. The man died and came up from the dead and is cursed to live forever

[@eimanb3887]

@@TheoSlaps interesting! I wonder if that could be a name in the syndicate later.

[@stillloading1564]

I’m thinking about Callahan. God of silence, Callahan doesn’t talk

[@kaigakusimp690]

Him:Say that’s all the children Purpled :*exists*

[@SixSpades1]

He said”but In the end it’s just a Theory”and I immediately thought A GAME THEORY

[@CandyGlitchYT]

Just because Tommy is in prison with Dream doesn't mean that he isn't a part of the Syndicate, he could've planned it with Tecno during his time in exile as he found out where he lived. He could've said "I want to be a part of this but we should code names, mine is (whatever dudes name was)" or something- Also! Tommy likes to learn peoples secrets, but he hates sharing his own, and with the childish...well- I don't need to explain THAT one

[@toxicclan6142]

If you go back to when l’manburg was made Wilbur always referred to funds as his son so could it be wilbur and he dont want to be known 1st cause he’s dead. Also Wilbur wanted to kill shlatt so could he have team with techno before his death?????

[@pissum420]

Wilbur has not way of talking to Techno? He’s only talked to Tommy once.

[@raeonfaux1260]

I think it would be Fundy because he did talk to Techno on a few occasions, and is a traumatized child. I’m not sure about the secret thing but most of the descriptions for Harpocrates. Also, on Fundy’s most recent stream, he said that he would get involved with Dream SMP Lore.

[@HiHello-cw9vc]

He kind of has a secrecy thing with being a former spy, and foxes are stereotypically sneaky

[@annatoullie4914]

Now I get we’re supposed to be focusing on who the secret member is but all I can do is look at how beautiful the meeting room is, like dang, they did a great job lmfao

[@zach-dr9yg]

i feel like mybe fundy after rewatching the destroying lmanbirg streams he was laughing manically throughout the whole thing and he is wil's child and he as a fox which means he is sly and may know a lot of secrets

[@just.a.random.user_]

Wait wait wait. I watched this first months ago when I didn't know as much, but I rewatched this now to double check my thoughts. Realization hit me. I don't think anyone suspected this person yet, but to me it makes sense. It may be Fundy. Keep reading to understand. Ok, so you do want to know. Well, Fundy fits the ENTIRE description. He is younger than Tommy. While he isn't in real life, he is canonically. Think about it. No one really thinks about Fundy being a child at first thought. They think about IRL age more than Canon age. It makes people overthink it, causing them to not realize Fundy has a high chance of being the member. First off, Technoblade said HE wants to keep his identity secret. That could have been an accident, and it could be a she, but there is a chance that it was on purpose. Second, as I stated, Fundy is canonically the youngest. To me, Tommy is like Wilbur's little brother. Fundy, however, is Wilbur's son. This means its highly unlikely that Tommy is younger than Fundy. While its possible, its unlikely. Fundy's pranks he does can also seem very childish to some. Third, he has acted as a spy before. He was acting as a spy against Jschlatt. He had a secret journal, managed to successfully keep his cover very well, and even managed to trick Jschlatt into thinking something else when Jschlatt found Fundy's book. Also, Fundy does pranks and steals things. For both of those, you can't get caught, meaning he has to do it SECRETLY and QUITELY. If in canon he has fox stealth, that would make him very quiet, secret, and stealthy. Fourth, there is many lore pointing to the fact that he wants someone to look up to. Someone to appreciate what he does. He could have joined to get appreciation from Philza. Philza has been there for him a couple times, and is his Grandfather after all. Also, after meeting Michael, and knowing Michael is Philza's favorite grandson, he could be wanting to steal that title. By joining, he could potentially get his Grandfather, and maybe even Technoblade's respect. He could finally get the attention he was seeking. Maybe he wanted forgiveness for being in the Butcher Army, the way Ranboo did, proving himself through joining Anarchy and the Syndicate. Fifth, he was laughing, actually LAUGHING, as he watched L'manburg get blown up towards the end of Doomsday. He also explained how he, Nihachu, and Eret already realized how Technoblade was right. This could be a sign of Anarchy in him. After everything, it proves he has sided with Anarchy. Sixth, we all know about the lore with his Nightmare. We know it was warning Fundy of Quackity. What if that ties in as well. Fundy was being a smart lil fox and considered that it was warning him of Quackity, but could also be warning him of someone else as well. He probably knows that Quackity hates Technoblade the most. He could be keeping up to the secrecy by being a spy against Quackity. While it seems hes joining Quackity, he may just be keeping his secret of being a spy. He could be staying secret from any other members and from chat themselves so that he can stay as secret as possible (Btw, he may just be acting as a spy to make sure it doesn't become anything major or involving government). Secrecy. Silence. SILENCE. NO MENTION OF IT. NO SIGN OF BEING A SPY AT ALL. HE COULD BE LIVING UP TO HIS CODE NAME BY BEING SECRET AND SILENT. HE LEARNED HIS LESSON ABOUT A JOURNAL WHEN HE WAS A SPY AGAINST JSCHLATT! Seventh, we gotta be honest. Does a giant sign saying ANARCHY in an open area seem secret? Its even on fire. Anyone could have seen it. What if Technoblade was just trying to invite Captain Puffy to the syndicate. Others people think it is would be Foolish, Wilbur, Callahan, and Dream. Wilbur Soot was dead when the syndicate was formed, and when the first meeting happened. Callahan has zero relationship with Technoblade. Foolish doesn't care much for lore and stays neutral, and Dream does have the possibility of being the member. He could have joined in the two day difference of the syndicate being formed formed and the day he was put in prison. Either way, it all seems to point to Fundy in my eyes.

[@random_mooshroomi]

The children of the smp: Ranboo, Tubbbo, and Tommy Purplred: Ò-Ó

[@jamkb9266]

Sapnap is 17

[@grug455]

@@jamkb9266 he's 20-

[@jamkb9266]

@@grug455 no hes 16 or 17

[@random_mooshroomi]

@@jamkb9266 No, Sap is an adult. I believe he's 22 bc his birthday was the same as Phil

[@grug455]

@@random_mooshroomi he's 20.His birthday was March 1rst 2001

[@applejuice4449]

silent, a child, talked to techno. we just forgot about purpled dindt we

[@SoupBowlofMadness]

Probably yeah.

[@snobsy2877]

rip UFO

[@jeebusisclapped]

Chair: Harpocrates My Brain: H I P O C R I T E S

[@imkody]

I think it could be Fundy. Think about it. Canonically, Fundy is a child. He is also against government at the moment so I think it could be Fundy.

[@thatytbananakrew5356]

Fundy could also be Harpocrates..... Fundy is known in to be the child or son of Wilbur. Fundy had been silenced by people many times, either from his own father or his allies who care less about him. He also been offline from the Dream Smp for a while so that can also imply to that as well Sadly, fundy dose not have contact with Techno. Considering that techno was able to give Tubbo a chance in explaining himself about what Snowchester, there is still a chance that Fundy could be the secret member.

[@Keso_rt]

I was dying laughing when I found out the secret members code name is about secrets and they wanted to keep them self unknow PFFFT I still a, dying XD so iconic

[@equilibrium.3035]

Callahan never talks he’s the god of silence boom I win

[@hardhat8595]

I think it's Dream, since it's the "God of Secrets" and he likes to mess with the mental states of children

[@Sam-lb6mq]

VOUCH

[@Spacemeister2377]

There is four words in there that you don’t want to remove.

[@leh.6913]

yaaas same page here ma friend

[@dominicmaino4331]

I would say either puffy or fundy, because fundy is Wilbur’s child, has been wronged by governments, and the way his character is going I think it could be likely

[@chemicalvenom1235]

Is no one else thinking it's Fundy, Philza's grandson, he sabotaged l manburgh surprises in dooms day and he secretly wants to cause chaos on the surver.

[@irawain4858]

Techno has technically already fulfilled the "first to die" requirement for his codename. As he "died" when he went to be executed by the butcher army. You might say "but he didn't die he used a totem" the explanation I have for this is the hypothesis philza put forward that the totem doesn't stop death it just brings you back from death in exchange the totem is destroyed

[@charliemurphy7130]

Fundy perhaps? He was once a child and not really involved in the plot right now so maybe he's meant to be working in the background.

[@dreamsgrandma3584]

the first time I heard there was a mysterious syndicate member I immediately thought of puffy since she did state that it was going to be a new start for her character

[@SkellyViper]

Exactly!

[@ThrowawaytheRatman]

I was thinking ether puffy or dream so ya

[@asomewhatdecentperson9190]

The thing is that Puffy is more sympathetic to Tommy’s death. She’ll probably have a frosty relationship with Techno if she found out he was elated about his death.

[@SkellyViper]

@@asomewhatdecentperson9190 Agreed!

[@allensullera1565]

@@asomewhatdecentperson9190 or even Niki for that matter since those 2 have history already and Niki wanted the one person Puffy desperately tried to protect dead.

[@wilbysooooot]

Technoblade's character was the first to die . . . The name was too perfect. May he rest in peace, Technoblade never dies!

[@jlcc2creaton394]

So I don't know if this would make sense but I'm torn between Sam or Foolish because me and my sibling did some research on Harpocrates and turns out Harpocrates is the God of Silence, but isn't originally Greek but was derived from the Egyptian God Horus. Foolish, because yeah, his theme and everything, but I doubt that his personality or vibe would match the name of Harpocrates. Sam on the other hand, is referenced as a creeper hybrid. Creepers usually hiss before exploding but are usually quiet when they sneak up behind you so you wouldn't they were there. And to be fair, Sam isn't really in a faction since the Badlands only consist of him, Ant and BBH (wherein the other two are completely corrupted by the Egg which is something he's against.) so he technically doesn't have a faction to side with. Though I think there are way too many flaws in Sam's canon character and thus he might have not been scouted. Though I love the idea of it being Purpled somehow though.

[@danielhughes1711]

I bet they put the secret person so people just make theories

[@SkellyViper]

I mean, I like it

[@Croopzy]

@@SkellyViper Views pog

[@Cvbee]

@@elufey9516 DREAMXD WHOS WITH ME?

[@serxuegoldisprettyuselessi2683]

@@Cvbee i tought its going to be the homeless teletubby. But yea maybe its dreamxd the protector of the dream smp.

[@elufey9516]

@@Cvbee i dont think having a god on your team would be fair

[@urosmihajlovic6305]

The secret member of Syndicate is either: Purpled Foolish Callahan Dream I am think that it's probably Dream, cause he has lots of secrets like he kept a secret that he can revive dead people, and he also has pretty negative relationship with the children of the smp: Like tommy, ranboo and tubbo (idk what bad he did to purpled) But he is like the biggest enemy with Tommy he manipulated him, killed him and brough him back to life, tortured him He also manipulated Tubbo and tried to kill him in the fight for the Discs He manipulated Ranboo into thinking that he blew up the community house and is his voice in the head, making his mental state dreadful. Purpled doesn't have a lore alot in Dream Smp but he is a child and is quiet Callahan isn't a child, is quiet but doesn't have a lore either, would be cool if it's him Foolish, he isn't really a child but he is unknown for now, he does seem to have a big role in dream smp right now and is likely to be him, From my conclusions: Technoblade might defeat Tommy, Tubbo and Ranboo into killing Dream, Help Dream escape from the prison and then reveal that he is the secret member of Syndicate.

[@sublimebouquetblaze9198]

I don't think it's dream, especially because he's incredibly untrustworthy and sometimes works with the government if it benefits him

[@puckaduck9250]

5:26 purpled is a child, he is also in the story un unknown charater, whes only known by ponk and is an assassin. he might be it

[@trif7416]

From what we know Purpled is a part of the Eggpire so I don't think it may be him

[@SkellyViper]

I thought about purpled, but let's be honest. He's got college above Dream SMP in terms of priorities lol

[@puckaduck9250]

@@SkellyViper true lol

[@puckaduck9250]

@@trif7416 he isnt, he was only heird to kill puffy for money and stuff. well atleast i think he isnt part of egg lol

[@MrNormal321]

I have four possible people who fit at least one of harpocrates descriptions Wilbur-he would be very secretive having been in limbo for so long and is on great terms with techno Punz-ever since the first l'manburg war punz has known to be very quiet and secretive and also he is a spy for dream Fundy-he knows techno very well and has despised government but also he is the only person I can think of who fits the childlike personality

[@MrNormal321]

Sorry three people

[@omniambitionsbadediting6765]

There's canonically one more child on the SMP, Fundy. So I'll guess Harpocrate is the alias of Fundy

[@ezaanzayaan7461]

Didnt watch the full video but im guessing puffy since Puffy wants to join the syndicate because of the egg she told herself its time to join the blood god ( technoblade ) Alright then ill comment if im right

[@snobsy2877]

we got a genius over here! ding ding ding.. it's pretty weak theory displayed in the video tho

[@AyazYilmaz09]

If a chair says Theseus then everyone will know who it is

[@vel9049]

Who

[@vel9049]

I cant match anyone in the dsmp with theseus

[@cath-zy2371]

@@vel9049 tommy

[@jellycpufi1880]

5:25 what about Purpled? he's also a minor (Also I don't remember exactly what happened but I remember that not a while ago Ponk and Antfrost (I think...?) hired him as a **secret** hitman or something) it could also be Callahan because he never talks, which means he's probably good with secrets

[@jellycpufi1880]

@@elufey9516 ohh ok I didn't remember that he's on the eggpire side

[@LocalInsomniac]

God of silence, and secrets My mind: Callahan

[@r0seyTh0rnSs]

Although this video has been put out a while ago, i would just like to put my theory out- I personally thiink it may be Fundy. He has sided with Niki before, he is the child of Wilbur and the grandchild of Philza. The secrets may be reffering to him because he's a fox, and foxes are usually reffered to as sly. Just putting my thoughts out there. :D

[@cbry]

the editing is incredible !

[@SkellyViper]

Thank you!

[@jacksonmatlock3]

I have a theory: the secret member is jack manifold. He is related to children in the sense that he is basically hunting down tommyinnit. The majority of the things said about the secret member apples for him. I think it’s either puffy or jack manifold

[@shrilleth]

the thing is, if it was Jack, I think he would have told Niki.

[@jacksonmatlock3]

@@shrilleth techno told them to not discuss the syndicate, and he joined before niki, so he wouldn’t have been able to tell Niki.

[@Some1__]

Maybe the secret member of the syndicate was the friends we made along the way

[@maxiguess9922]

Can someone explain me this meme? Please?

[@HiHello-cw9vc]

Xd

[@HylianWolfMage55]

Why didn't you take Fundy into consideration? 1) Makes senses with the lore (Fundy wanting respect) and the codenames give him a disconnection from his past. 2) Fundy is the only character who hasn't had the spotlight on him currently, thus his current activities remain a secret. 3) Philza has a connection to him (biological grandfather) and it's possible that Techoblade doesn't know who the other member is either because Philza is the co-founder and most likely to recruit members when Techoblade is logged off.

[@marcelondioguimba3095]

Maybe techno's name represents the execution in lamenberg when he used the totem of undying

[@codenamepizza4971]

I think it might be dream, apparently dreams doing a lore stream soon where he will probably escape prison. He’s not a child but he does have a lot of secrets. Also techno owes dream a favour so what if techno frees dream and dream is actually part of the syndicate.

[@crickets.scareme]

That’s what I thought too.

[@AzrealZ01]

Bruh did everybody forget about wilbur? He's trying to come to life and I wouldn't be surprised if he occasionally took over ghostbur and joined

[@candiceraidsyou4148]

Well wilbur is now revived but he claims dream to be his saviour and therefore he wouldn't support techno

[@47FLA]

I think it is callahan because he does not speak, and harpocrates is the keeper of secrets

[@gabshickey9743]

He is also the Greek God of silence if I’m not mistaken so....maybe???

[@Lazyman0909]

I agree

[@grug455]

i agree

[@ZeroIQBee]

Isn't fundy like supposed to be 14? There is also stuff being said about him living for other children and their mother. Fundy being an orphan would fit that. He would represent and protect the two things he never got to have. A childhood and a mother, considdering she died. Also some stuff about seeing and being responsible for the sunrise. Fundy lived to see it all. I could be very wrong cus I haven't looked into fundy s relationship with the other members. But yeah that's what came to mind

[@Person80000]

I get your point , it's actually true that captain puffy could be the secret member , she helped techno and she started a fight Vs the eggpire , so i think that's true

[@meeltera]

Puffy made a lore stream recently revealing some of her past. It could really fit the "secrets" part, however, as some people already said in the comments, Techno referred to the member as a he. Since there isn't much women on the Dream SMP, it might be to cover even more her identity but I doubt it. Someone also said in the comments it could be Fundy, which would be really interesting.