Dream Theater Audition (Full Highlights) - Who is the best?

[@Rasmus_13]

I just love how Marco showed up in a fucking cookiemonster shirt

[@0992mexiburger]

He’s that cool

[@iamjakepaul944]

Yes!

[@tabsumrall6402]

Marco definitley allows his playing to speak for him...he's a different kind for sure

[@botJK2925]

they could have ventured to satanic reggae prog genre with him and still have the smiles

[@yuhgftp7925]

I hate how he dresses

[@rafaelmatosdasilva]

marco minnemann was DTs first choice, but they asked for exclusivity so he turned them down. I'm glad he did, he is a creative mind and a beast of a drummer that needs freedom to expand. i love him.

[@ProgKey]

source ?..

[@ayanaminorei9072]

He personally said this to me after an Aristocrats concert many years ago. He wanted to keep doing his clinics and side projects, but DT wanted him exclusively.

[@andrewraphael3800]

Kinda weird that they had those stipulations given the nature of Portnoy's departure (and even he had lots of side projects, as do all the members of the band). Shame as Marco had the best feel - Mangini is good but I find his playing on the DT records to be stiff and robotic, and ADTOE aside his sound after that is mainly triggers.

[@RohannvanRensburg]

​@@ayanaminorei9072Was Marco in the Aristocrats at this point? The guy is such a crazy drummer, he toured with Necrophagist in addition to playing with Gilbert and Steven Wilson

[@ayanaminorei9072]

@@RohannvanRensburgYes, this conversation happened after an Aristocrats concert that I attended. The band was hanging out with the fans and I had a chance to chat with Marco for 5 minutes or so. Really nice guy, as you can imagine.

[@davidh.8798]

This is almost 10 years old, I know nothing about the band, nor the drummers, nor the genre of music...but very clearly the German guy in the Cookie Monster t-shirt was best.

[@Haggath]

Marco is an incredible drummer, and a lot of people will say that he should've gotten the job. If I were you I'd watch The Aristocrats - Boing, We'll Do It Live! concert (probably in the recommended videos for this video) for some crazy drumming!

[@fostena]

In the end it was a contest between Mike Mangini and Marco. He was asked if he was ready to be employed full time, as DT is a "full time" project. He wasn't. He didn't want to commit 99.9% of his time to Dream Theater, so they went with Mangini. Minnemann was my favorite, too, by a long shot. In my opinion he would have been a breath of fresh air, as opposed to Mangini who is too similar in style to Portnoy, while also kinda worse overall (except for raw speed).

[@Mr___f]

Hard to compare these guys but Thomas Lang is one of the greatest drummers of all time. His solos are insane.. Marco is up there too though.

[@raulangel9461]

+1

[@kcorpora1]

What made him the best?

[@patton303]

Mangini: Black shirt Lang: Black Shirt Roddy: Black shirt Marco: CooKiE MoNSteR!!👁👄👁

[@ichalmeong7071]

The reason Marco got rejected

[@marlonmuller4698]

Marco go

[@illidanstr8402]

@@ichalmeong7071 marco rejected DT actually

[@LordOfSweden]

@@illidanstr8402 He did? Cause I thought he was the best by far and would have been the best fit by far

[@martyw9504]

Marco is with a better band now, The Aristocrats

[@disco4535]

Imagine the pressure sitting at a drum set auditioning, surrounded by the members of Dream Theater just staring you down judging every little nuance of your playing

[@GRILLBUOY101]

uh yeah can u say bugging out

[@Toleyshreds]

Especially since these guys are some of the best on the planet. Two berkeley students who know the craft in and out. Terrifying

[@ankihansen2489]

@@Toleyshreds Mike Mangini had it easy, he was a teacher at Berkeley!

[@Toleyshreds]

@Aeternalis Armentarius my band teacher says I should apply to Berkeley, since I have the “chops”. I’ll be damned if I go to that communist breeding ground

[@mrbouncelol]

@@Toleyshreds Bro aren't you confused on this one? There is UC Berkeley, which is a campus of University of California, and is supposed to be about as left-leaning as it gets, then there is Berklee College of Music, Boston, Massachusetts, where the founding members of DT attended. Besides, if you're gonna go somewhere, then just do it. Everyone has different politics and all universities around the world have a lot of vigorous debate. You can become a part of it or ignore it and focus on your studies. Don't let that hold you back if you think studying somewhere is going to help you in your career and life.

[@earthwormjum]

They should have invited Lars to try, just for laughs

[@mattansell95]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIGrZWiimNSVirc

[@PurpleHazes88]

yeah, and then Lars should ask to compare the albums sold and the respective stories... you know ... to laugh a little

[@graemepatterson]

He'd still be sitting outside the audition room, because he wouldn't know when to come in...

[@SaxyCalzone]

@@graemepatterson This joke should be at the top

[@mobjack]

Dream Theater covered Metallica while Metallica might be vaguely aware of who DT is Lars wrote good songs, something these guys will never understand All those years are Berklee learning technique but printing unlistenable music frustrates them That’s the difference

[@DerHerrMitR]

Best for the band: Mangini. Best overall: Minnemann.

[@headkickko609]

I think Mangini is the worst option regarding the musical feeling. I would've gone with Minemann. DT would simply write better music with him. Hell i stopped listening to DT after Mangini joined.

[@danielknorr357]

well, i think minnemann is the best for the band and best overall...

[@DerHerrMitR]

Y'think? I think he'd be bored really quick playing with DT.

[@lenynmedrano6825]

I think the same..

[@theundergroundresistance1997]

Mangini have played with them way before the audition, so they wanted him

[@cicadaflight9850]

3:22 Drummers when the guitarist is tuning

[@sinancamurdan735]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@parlamedia]

Laughing so hard it made me cough

[@nathanmoreira]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jmm7351]

I do it all the time !

[@marksutherlandjr.2121]

😂😂😂😂 Facts!! It never fails!! Hahaha ❤This!!!

[@wjlintz]

They chose Mangini because they already had "MIKE" stenciled on some of the equipment.

[@wildanS]

LMAO, best reason truly.

[@rodolfodeleon5730]

Jajajajajaja true true

[@niggasjit]

Lmfao 😅👌

[@seekyou]

ajajajja

[@fdbf01]

Lol coud be...still i think it is because he was a teacher...

[@Blaze_1221]

Massive props to Virgil for playing Dream Theater with TRADITIONAL GRIP!!!

[@ChiefSupreme6803]

Why is this something to be celebrated? Good job on choosing to use a grip that is pointless and offers zero advantages? Good job on making your drum teacher proud?

[@AarosConcerts]

@@ChiefSupreme6803get lost kid

[@r.hursijevic123]

@@ChiefSupreme6803 Okay, you humiliated the man, so I'm curious what you have to say about this whole audition thing. I'm guessing you have a lot more drumming experience than most of us poor people.

[@axelrodnaga2509]

​@@ChiefSupreme6803 He's the only one who plays like that among the other drummers. though he may not be the one who plays the best but he's unique and that matters too...

[@ChiefSupreme6803]

I am only commenting on the grip. I love his playing. The audition is cool but these specialized drummers seem to have little use to most popular musicians unless they simplify everything. I want to see the crazy solos. He might be too technical even for Dream Theater.

[@jfrusciantetube]

At 3:57 it took me a few seconds to realize that "Necrophagist" was the band he played with, and not one of his hobbies

[@JustD1zz]

XD

[@floralfire]

LMAOO

[@lodovicoconrado3297]

Kinkshaming IS NOT OK!

[@andali555]

Lmao

[@Babo_Blocksberg]

Im dying!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@tnhnoztel]

marco is so badass that he can rip through one of the most complex songs in progressive rock/metal history wearing a cookie monster tshirt

[@tested211]

Marco looks the most relaxed. When I watch him I actually think I would be able to sit down and play all that stuff - he makes it look as if it's that easy.

[@Rondo2ooo]

@@tested211 For him it is. Steven Wilson sent him for The Raven songs and Marco sent him drums parts back the next day. And I think it was even a New Year's Eve or so. SW was blown away. The recording sessions are here on YT where he mentions it.

[@kalpkumudkumar8163]

He is a living and uderratted drummer legend of current generation .. but his style is lot different than DT's style

[@Ransomwarehasbeeninstalling]

When I saw Marco playing dance of eternity he was fucking killing it

[@adamrosner4396]

All of these drummers can play anything DT might throw at them with ease.

[@tiedrummer1]

I was at a Marco Minnemann workshop a few years ago, he said DT wanted him to become a full member but that meant no other bands and DT as his top priority. He didn't want that, so they went with Mangini instead.

[@Sebuguitar]

I loved MAngini in this, idk how ppl can rate him the worst out of them all... He was really living and feeling it

[@WardenOfSouls]

@@Sebuguitar yup. saw them a week ago.. he grew on that band. Mangini is 10 times better than he was in this audition now and he still was one of the best in the audition

[@into_the_void]

@@Sebuguitar mangini in this audition vs him live is very different... For this audition he turned it up to 11 ... Check out his recent live shows .. you'll know what I mean, he's good but sounds very... Mechanical I guess..

[@handler803]

Not trying to discredit you or anything but maybe you misunderstood what Minnemann said? If anything, the guys probably knew that they wanted Mangini from the get go (roddy sorta confirmed this in an interview)

[@CoolAsianGuy]

He's a liar

[@LucidRobYT]

I saw Necrophagist live once in my life and Marco Minnemann was drummin for them. The entire venue stopped talking and were in awe when he dropped a massive 10 min drum solo on us. He's an animal. I love his style.

[@MPrint67]

Robert Walsh God that was a match made in heaven. Still waiting on that new Necrophagist album🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀

[@asylumental]

Fuckin NECROPHAGIST! Yes!

[@toring61_52]

Indeed Marco is totally Amazing... kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnPOaJqAh5uLq68

[@Alex-vy1ll]

Saw him with kreator, same thing.

[@us2ragaffur]

@@MPrint67 well my friend we are on the same boat but I guess we will turn old until it comes...

[@mrhungrybutawesome]

nice,when are they gonna do vocalists auditions?

[@alvinhasal2391]

+mrhungrybutawesome this made me lol, probably when JP and JM left the band

[@redcolor9807]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaaaahahahahahahahahahaHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHHA

[@kalpkumudkumar8163]

+mrhungrybutawesome You nailed it man !!!!

[@sw1tched]

+mrhungrybutawesome hahahahaha whens the NEXT drummer audition? they chose the wrong one

[@anjasfajaryan6201]

lollll 😂😂😂😂

[@lordoftheelements2112]

Mike Mangini is a Good drummer, but that guy Marco just put everything into it, and he was so happy and energetic!

[@chrisb2535]

Yep. That dude is incredible. I like the accidental trick at the end of Scarified with Paul Gilbert. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5e7loKVe8uSjcU

[@orionburton3829]

Man, mangini just acting here! Cause he's a totally robot!! Any of the other drummers will be ok. I don't hear DT since Mangini was joined.

[@Conundrums._]

@@bulloozer5552 Mangini is one of the most robotic drummers on earth. There’s a lot a people who don’t realize how good he is.

[@bulloozer5552]

@@Conundrums._ I didn't say Mangini is bad. I've learned a lot from him. I just think Marco was a better fit for DT. But it's DT's decision. They probably didn't want someone who can steal their thunder.

[@Conundrums._]

@@bulloozer5552 the reason why is Bc DT wanted him to be full time DT and he didn’t want to

[@kryzs_kornhell]

Minnemann is the type of drummer every band could pray for. Such a master!

[@ZtlaMusic]

@WhoDarestheMAN gamer The thing about Marco that makes him so valuable is his outstanding musicality. Imho projects he's joined have suddenly become a level or two better - be it that one Plini EP he played on or the two Steven Wilson Albums etc.

[@thorhbar1255]

​@WhoDarestheMAN gamer Music is about music not how you can play in 22/8 and chop your rudiments all over the kit at 300bpm. Marco has a musicality that Lang doesn't have. Music always wins. Phil Collins can't do what Lang does but everyone remembers his drum parts and nobody will remember a single thing Lang has done.

[@thorhbar1255]

@WhoDarestheMAN gamer No, re read carefully, i didn't say no musicality, i said Marco has musicality he doesn't. Reading is cool. Also, 'he would spank him' as if they're boxers or football teams. Music isn't a competition, but if it was, it would be judged on actual music and not drum chops, which is why you linking to this tuneless song that nobody would buy and listen to is an example that you're putting drum technicality over musicality. Good for you son. See everything Marco has done with Steven Wilson. Thanks for playing, bye.

[@thorhbar1255]

@WhoDarestheMAN gamer "Marco has *a* musicality that Lang doesn't have." Learn to read and understand or go get checked to see if you're on the spectrum.

[@GreenGartside1989]

I’ll take Minnemann over Lang anyday. Lang is all flash not very much substance IMO. Great drummer but not on Minnemann’s level at all especially when you factor in musicality

[@hunterjessup]

Biggest lesson from this: band chemistry beats individual virtuosity all day.

[@antonionovi1706]

I think this was only a promotional show and Mangini was already choosen.

[@4ctmam]

@@antonionovi1706 Exactly. They knew him well, he was proficient, willing and also a local guy, which is important logistically. Still, about half of DT's audience are guitarists and the second is drummers (real or air :D ), so they needed some kind of vehicle to try and keep the Portnoy fans. That was a pretty good ploy.

[@steveluth3139]

Not only that, but Marco had some extra demands and the band didn't it. Marco was by far the best drummer ofc

[@andym28]

Individual artistry beats band chemistry, mainly Kevin Moore. They could have all average players with him it would be art rather than a stale circus act.

[@rubenrada3493]

Same hapenned with Trujillo in Metallica....

[@BlueTaylor88]

I feel like I was watching the metal equivalent of Americas Got Talent. I kept waiting for Simon to come out and say "Your blast beats were trash, your timing was off, and you act like you're scared of the crash. Are you trying out for Avril Lavigne or Dream Theater? Its gonna be a no for me."

[@bbqseitan7106]

This is an amazing idea

[@jonesyak]

😂

[@christophersmith8486]

LMFAO!!!!!!!!

[@david.cutipa]

Randy Jackson: “it’s a no from me dawg”

[@muhammadriddhuan1960]

Benny greb?

[@rycor9117]

I'm very happy Marco is where he is now. The playing in the Aristocrats is just on a level that fits Marco. That band communicates through notes to each other. Amazing to watch.

[@davidderoux7552]

I'm happy too! I think Mangini fits very well in DT.... that's life ... if you didn't succeed with DT it works with Kreator or Necrophagist:))

[@gunnarjordan6980]

Better than Dream Theater!

[@rlnwvr]

True. Marco is too good for DT back then and especially now.

[@6stringstorulethemall967]

He needed to be somewhere where he can improvise

[@mr.brenman2132]

​@@rlnwvr calm down

[@MrAndrebatera]

Last drummer made John Myung smile....he should be the chosen one. He's made the impossible... .

[@danielrgoldman341]

marco was wayy beyond, but goddamn those guy finished the song at 6:57 was WAYYY MORE, remind me of portnoy. just look the way hes kickin those bassdrum and that long hair. even myung was smiling !

[@danielrgoldman341]

@Reed Tard mike mangini. damn you never heard of dream teather do u ?

[@internetm8]

Ya. He's also one of the three that the band considers to hire.

[@jeremyjohnson9222]

They tried to hire Marco first. But Marco had just started with Guthrie and told them he wouldn’t be able to be exclusive to only DT. So Mangini got the job

[@destianpatrianagara1119]

@@jeremyjohnson9222 How did you know?

[@callanish5384]

Top 3: 1. Marco Minnemann 2. Thomas Lang 3. Mike Mangini

[@wanderson6588]

Yeah man i repport. To me Thomas lang would be the drummer and not being possible he would be marco minemann.

[@user-me7mm7gr1p]

Yeah minnemann would have been suc ha good fit for them

[@ryanlyle9201]

Iskalder I’m really glad they didn’t pick him. He blew my mind seeing him play with the Aristocrats.

[@maxkennedy7915]

And Donati?

[@bardscreamer]

minnemann lang donati imho

[@keyboardwarria]

fucking Marco with the Cookie monster shirt to a band audition. Classic Marco

[@DrKFC69]

it's joke like your profile

[@MigiDrums]

How did you get here lmao

[@mammontustado9680]

I feel like Marco would've put some sense of humor back into that band

[@RockandMetal645]

The reason I like Mike Mangini the best is because I no longer have to relearn the names of all the members. it's still Mike, James, John, John and Jordan

[@ALBundy73]

Strange reason : it s a joke maybe

[@nicoraibak]

NSA RUHERE no, he means it

[@CR1992..]

RockandMetal645 might be the same reason why the band chose him.

[@CR1992..]

RockandMetal645 might be the same reason why the band chose him.

[@juniuroVR]

Derek of course, they already had the tshirts with those names hahahaha

[@fiveish77]

The dude who played for paul gilbert kind of looks like paul gilbert

[@ironblud]

thereal MCPM at least two of the drummers played with Paul

[@fiveish77]

ironblud Cool. I’m talking about the one that looks like him.

[@chingsengdaring]

@@ironblud he's talking about Marco

[@guitarworship812]

His in Aristocrats now. With the great guitarist Guthrie Govan.

[@zandrocastertroymontano9083]

Truest of the true

[@ryanhosier8785]

Definitely Marco Minnemann. But he wasn't chosen because the band asked him what songs if theirs he like and he couldn't name any lol. He's more of a session musician

[@sound285]

what did he think of kreator then?

[@norpriest521]

Ryan Hosier Nah, more like he was there just to punk DT that their songs are pieces of cake for him lol. Trust me he went there just to humiliate those guys that he's easily the best drummer around fundamentally and technically. I don't think he was serious about getting the job at DT lol 😆

[@reynamaemaranga6085]

they picked mike mangini because he is technically an amazing drummer and he didn't make any mistakes,he is a smart drummer.For me mike mangini is the best for dream theater

[@Derazed85]

Captain Falcon Marco Minnemann young? He's 47 years old :)

[@xavierazad]

Reyna Mae Maranga Is that why he sounds like a drum machine? If that's what DT needs they might as well just program the drums with Superior Drummer or something. The best for DT is still Portnoy.

[@Retroman1]

All these years and i still think they should have picked Marco

[@mildr7]

Agreed

[@jordy2x_]

They did. He turned them down...

[@Retroman1]

@@jordy2x_ really? That's so interesting.

[@jordy2x_]

@@Retroman1 yeah, they wanted him to leave all his other projects to be in DT. He didn’t wanna leave his boys behind. Glad he did because we’d never have his new stuff.

[@xdarckstrack45]

Minneman said that he didn't wanted to be part of the band from the start, something along the lines that it wasn't his style, he just did it for the lols

[@MetalAndStoneYouTube]

4:00 "what shirt should I put on for the interview?" "Fuck it, throw on the cookie monster one" LMAOOOOOOO

[@Boston84]

Lmao comment made my day

[@tomasferminades9536]

That's exactly the reason why he didn't get the part

[@sauzeeee]

@@tomasferminades9536 yeah he should've just worn a Big Bird t shirt instead.

[@bobajanfettsolo9143]

@@tomasferminades9536 he didn't get the part because DT are dickheads and they wanted a drum machine.

[@rickanduiza186]

@@bobajanfettsolo9143 They completely missed on Marco. He has way more soul and creativity

[@cultofskar4492]

0:08 Mike Mangini 1:58 Thomas Lange 2:46 Derek Roddy 3:29 Virgil Donati 3:57 Marco Minnemann 5:25 Aquiles Priester 6:15 Peter Wildoer

[@goodbass123]

What is the name of the song marco plays?

[@cultofskar4492]

@@goodbass123 A Nightmare To Remember by Dream Theater

[@Nick-ln5dp]

Qq

[@chandratriana9501]

What name intro song for Aquiles priester ?

[@brianpage7569]

@@goodbass123 The funniest part is Marco's video here wasn't even a real audition for the band that day. Jordan actually invited Marco to come jam with the band while they were doing tryouts, Marco said it would be really cool to be in the band, but had zero intentions of being in the band at all, he expressed that several times. He did an interview about it saying how they made his jam session with the band look like he auditioned for the band and he clearly didn't. He also told them to take his audition down because it wasn't an audition at all, they just made it seem like one and he wasn't happy about it.

[@jane5944]

John Myung's level of silence

[@dreamdrummer5]

But laughed at Wildoer Performance!

[@jemsar2]

Irene .W. Isn’t that a John Myung composition?

[@LogicofChaos7871]

He didn't want to be dishonorabuuu

[@philippelafortune-leroux1620]

They actually chose Marco first instead of Mike Mangini. But the new drummer had to sign a contract stipulating that they couldn't play in any other band except Dream Theater. So Marco turned down the offer because of that very reason. The second choice was Mike.

[@さぼせんぱい]

Does it include also that they can't make solo albums like the guitar players most do??? Just curious.

[@philippelafortune-leroux1620]

@@さぼせんぱい I do not know the answer about solo album. I do know that it involved other « projects ». So I don’t know.

[@JRM---516]

That's news to me about Marco being first pick, and turning down the gig!!! Thanks for the FYI. (Where did you get that information?) As a killer drummer myself, I thought Marco was clearly the most musical drummer, with no less chops. Plus, Marco seemed like a matter-of-fact guy, free of any egoentric tendecies. Mangini, on the other hand, acted like a 'drama queen' while waiting for the audition results. Bottom line, though, all the contestants did a great job at the audition.

[@philippelafortune-leroux1620]

@@JRM---516 I read it from Marco himself in an interview he's done. I tried to find it for you but it's been a while. You can read a lot of other interviews where he says basically the same thing. That he didn't really know any of DT songs before hand which just shows how freaking good of a drummer her is. Here is a similar part I found in an interview which isn't the same one but it pretty much sums it up. I mean, coming from the man himself. Pretty hard to deny right ? ''There might be something along those lines that we could collaborate, but if I had been in Dream Theater, I would have have to give up the most of my activities like The Aristocrats, which are my band and that’s my home''.

[@rizkyjelang4737]

@@NoNo-ro9gx TRUUEE LOL

[@ToVisitOctober]

😂 blast beats so loud that you can’t hear anyone else.

[@rsaldivar8]

Dude my eyes lit up when i saw Derek roddy then was totally let down they didn't like him but i mean he said himself hes primarily an extreme metal drummer and didn't really prepare. Hes still awesome though.

[@stripedfrog1122]

@@rsaldivar8 What Derek Roddy did is just a shame! No DT song need blastbeats....

[@rsaldivar8]

@@stripedfrog1122 yeah i know i just like Derek roddy thats all

[@pararanthecaveman]

@@rsaldivar8 same reaction lol. Although you KNOW it's never gonna go together, you just want to see it unfold

[@frankscassi4960]

@@stripedfrog1122 maybe it was just a jam moment

[@escadrums2]

Thomas Lang, the Cristiano Ronaldo of drumming. So mechanical, a machine like beast

[@diegopelozo2679]

Messi Matt Garska sorry.

[@zackbetterton489]

Seriously there’s no other drummer that is more respectable than Thomas lang

[@panuveijalainen8051]

@@zackbetterton489 I agree. However check El Estepario Siberiano. There's something coming up.

[@hugostiglitzracing866]

@@diegopelozo2679 LOL Messi is better than Ronaldo, and Thomas Lang is better than Matt Garska

[@hugostiglitzracing866]

tbh, he is the best drummer in this video, but he's not who I would go with if I was them. IMO Mike Mangini and Marco fit them better. Thomas is a better drummer tho

[@Kromatikeys]

You know you're a freak drummer when you're too good for DT. Hats off to Minneman.

[@numetalinkin]

He's not too good for DT smh

[@norpriest521]

Erik MetalyRock Lmao you're offened or what? Everyone was aware Marco was one of the best drummers in the world, even far greater than Mike Portnoy. Marco went to audition just to punk the band that their songs were too easy for him. He fucking nailed it without even trying. DT knew Marco was meant for something greater than this. Marco drumming skill is far superior than to play with DT. The band would hold him back.

[@numetalinkin]

Nor Priest okay

[@huarachudo47]

Yeah, but they just needed a drummer for DT, nothing more. XD

[@wiggy009]

Nor Priest Marco maybe technically superior to portnoy. But portnoy's creativity far exceeds anyone imo. Also Petrucci and Rudess are regarded as some of the best muscians for their instruments and DT is extremely technical I don't think anyone is too good for DT

[@gleventhal]

I love Marco, his vibes are so damn good, but all these drummers seem like great dudes and great players.

[@AlbanianThrash]

he would honestly be lowering himself by joining dream theater

[@SirForwyn]

I'm so glad that Marco didn't get it, he's in a better place now, with Steven Wilson and Guthrie Govan.

[@jimorocks]

+Wecu Snow - Exactly what I said! The Aristocrats are so fricken good! Guthrie is amazing and needs a drummer like Marco.

[@tomesilva36]

+Wecu Snow Never thought of it that way !

[@rabinrai5732]

+Wecu Snow who is the drummer for dream theater ..?? who they selected??

[@SirForwyn]

rabin rai mike mangini

[@purplespecter]

i totally agree with you. At least Steven is releasing great music

[@EgorKlenov]

take it away Marcoooooooo

[@yalikejazz4380]

*Scarified starts playing*

[@frederiklikesgames6481]

a true Kreator

[@Sparcle]

@ Егор Клёнов лол, час назад смотрел твоё видео по baldur's gate :) интернет тесен

[@Weewokk]

Man, this reference made me laugh so much.

[@GuitaroortJ]

Necrophagist :'(

[@maprow]

Thomas Lang is like a drumming terminator sent from the future to break sticks like twigs and crush DW 9000 pedals with his ultrafast double-bass technique. Love that guy!

[@ableusermcz]

Haha exactly what i thought :'D

[@darthvader6845]

Druminator

[@thecclan4087]

Hell yeah Thomas is awesome

[@Masky.Malsawmkima]

Neil oh come on!

[@Masky.Malsawmkima]

Neil shut up

[@Mr___f]

It's wild to see Thomas Lang auditioning for anything lol the guy can quite literally play anything and is easily one of the best drummers of all time. Thomas and Marco were never getting chosen though. They had way too many side gigs going on.

[@jamesroboyle]

@@Momoa786 Dave Weckl

[@mattdelany6799]

@@jamesroboyleweckl is a great jazz drummer.

[@jeffame7]

Cookie monster guy shoulda won. Mangini wasn't bad but, for sure not better

[@aidanloewaffle5467]

he did win but he didnt want to leave his other bands and Dream Theater wanted a full commitment

[@vintagemxer9165]

A cookie monster shirt at an audition? Just implies he's a goofball. He doesn't look right for this band. It was Mangini all the time. This music blows anyway.

[@MKRocker2012]

Who gives a shit what his personality is? As long as he's not a dick, which he clearly isn't.

[@norpriest521]

@@vintagemxer9165 You realize the cookie monster guy had bigger talent than all those fuckheads. Sure he won't stay with DT cuz he knows he's too good for the band 😆

[@norpriest521]

@Nero Then why he's there in the first place? He just wanted to humiliated them? 😆

[@trevscribbles]

Derek was gone the moment he started doing blast-beats. You can't be louder than the egos hiring you.

[@SOGNAMETAL]

I'm a huge fan of his drumming but in this video I was like WHAT THE FUCK IS HE DOING

[@tankwfw]

I didn't think someone could be louder than Mike P lol

[@DaveDexterMusic]

I'm pretty sure the audio wasn't captured properly from that audition, so - unlike the others - we're hearing the audio from the camera. You think it wasn't loud as fuck with those other drummers? It would have sounded just as overpowering standing there; but DT are using in-ear monitors, so they get the balance they want.

[@mschmuck2]

Embarrassing for sure.

[@Wheelio]

I legit started bursting out laughing when that part happened. His loud ass blast beats just drowning the entire band out lmao.

[@rudessdfdf]

they didnt take Lang , cause they were scare of him.... he is the real monster.

[@alberths2279]

rudessdfdf agree

[@tomesilva36]

rudessdfdf druminator

[@AlpcanAras]

rudessdfdf thomas lang rapes drums.

[@dougsteeleguitar]

rudessdfdf He's a power-hose.

[@Kain_R_Heinlein]

+rudessdfdf And cause he's also boring and tasteless. No feel or emotion, all tech. Also implying that Mike, Virgil and Marco aren't monsters. Eh... at least those 4 are all better than Portnoy haha

[@commenter4525]

At this point Derek Roddy was just trolling. Lol what a legend

[@ArexSant]

Hahaha, he was just in the neighborhood and stopped by for audition

[@TheSunMoon]

He wanna take a break from 300bpm

[@fmills1583]

Holy shit! That was a bunch of really good drummers!

[@fasteddie1241]

That was my takeaway

[@wojciechostrowski3580]

YES!

[@mattiemclean9882]

Its a shame the music is so shit because they are incredible drummer's

[@jeus_saaa]

I feel bad for Priester. He fucked up really bad on that one.

[@pergustafsson1155]

Justin Laurente Yeah, i mean wouldn’t have been called to the audition if he would be a useless drummer. He just had a really bad day. Also he weren’t really used to their way of jamming and creating music collectively. He usually writes the music himself.

[@WhereThereDude]

5:01 Damn Christian bale and his method acting

[@Weewokk]

His German accent is phenomenal. Even better than his American accent in American Psycho imo.

[@gonzalocisternas4564]

i mean kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2iyl6ilrqt_ZpI

[@rizkijuliawan7219]

The dark knight

[@ThatMeansHesMad]

Or.. could this be Michael Cera from the future?

[@theboxofdogs]

Virgil’s flare is stunning. I’ve been blown away by listening to his chops since the late 80’s. There’s a film loosely based on his experience.

[@KitWriter]

And his foot chops are KILLER. Everyone forgets he has AMAZING kick work.

[@mattdelany6799]

Who?

[@amalditapilula]

The best was Virgil, but Mike sounded more like DT all the way. When you have a band like Dream Theater is important to sound similar to what the fans are used to.

[@qndj6449]

This.

[@nathanaellopez3307]

THOMAS LANG..ABSOLUTELY..CLEAN..PERFECT..SIMPLE..BEAUTY

[@damnchin2694]

virgil too, es a drummer from not around here

[@andivax]

Marco Minnemann has Portnoy's vibe. I vote for him but who cares )))

[@rickanduiza186]

agree, I was pulling for Marco...he has way more feel

[@danielrgoldman341]

marco was wayy beyond, but goddamn those guy finished the song at 6:57 was WAYYY MORE, remind me of portnoy. just look the way hes kickin those bassdrum and that long hair. even myung was smiling !

[@hamppa9798]

also extra points for the shirt

[@Atleticanodosul]

6:07 not quite my tempo

[@DavidNwokoye]

😂😂😂 I get the reference

[@ArgathosSnake]

I thought the same when I saw Rudess's face

[@PoohhNani]

Damn I didnt even notice that at first. How did i not see that lmao

[@juanvazquez5836]

dude wanted to up the tempo

[@isaacperetz5984]

*_ARE YOU RUSHING OR ARE YOU DRAGGING???_*

[@GG-iu6xd]

Marco is crazy good... brilliant musician with tons of energy.

[@mattdelany6799]

Lang is better.

[@shallowlord]

I almost feel like DT wanted Mangini in the first place, but just wanted to make shure he's the guy so they held an audition...

[@julianlak1017]

Yeah I agree

[@sazidhasankhan9144]

Yup

[@franciscofuentes9533]

MARCO MINNEMANN IS THE BEST

[@budo.1556]

Debatable.

[@H4RM0N1C5]

+FRANCISCO FUENTES dont even have to listen and I agree. Man is a god

[@Robiobass2]

+FRANCISCO FUENTES Mangini hands down! Jus sayin

[@ycrossroads1423]

I think so too. I like Minnemann's snare sound, it is very good.

[@arthurpetersen1783]

there's no question. Mangini is certainly great, but he's not like Marco Minneman. And the fact that we could have had a Dream Theater with Marco Minneman, and now we don't, makes me depressed.

[@elguitarTom]

3:17 -- > Haha his blast beats :D "dagdagdagdagdagdag!" not sure that was what they were looking for :p

[@heresjohnny999]

i think Roddy knew he wasn't getting the gig so just showed what he can do, although there is a blastbeat in nightmare to remember

[@Kain_R_Heinlein]

he really didn't belong in that audition haha

[@krispy3790]

one of the songs had that beat so im pretty sure thats what they were looking for

[@ardiologi]

LOL 😂

[@Dizzydawne]

That’s what a blast beat is ..

[@juanmavillazan642]

I've seen once Marco playing for Kreator. God it was amazing, that guy tooks everything to another level.

[@ricardocardoso2047]

I would love to see Marco in dt, he would bring something very different than mangini. If you watch his stuff, this man doesn't stop trying to improve, he just keeps getting better

[@calebconejo]

Marco Minnemann is the best

[@spotterpt7706]

The best of them all refused to go, check out Bobby Jarzombek!

[@earthwax7946]

I liked Marco best. Plays like a dream theater drummer. Looks, acts, and dresses like a primus drummer 😂

[@fanaticaldueling6337]

Tim and Jay never were show stealers

[@blppt]

I love that Marco wore a Cookie Monster shirt to the audition. LMFAO

[@djjazzyjeff1232]

Yeah great way to take yourself out of the running and make yourself seem like a joke.

[@Bruhskivibes]

@@djjazzyjeff1232 maybe if you were just some random off the street but these are all recognized professionals with nothing to prove to anybody, just seeing if their styles mesh well.

[@dingusfuzzklonnkt2755]

@@djjazzyjeff1232 Marco could wear a pink lace bra and not one musician would say a damn thing. He is a drummer, one of the greatest on the planet. His cookie monster shirt is fitting when trying out for this Olympic bs. Cookie monster> V neck all day everyday, he was the best drummer auditioning, he turned the spot down. Bow to cookie monster immediately

[@jonajon91]

Coming back to these tapes nearly a decade later and I can't help but feel like they took the safe option, someone that would just play the parts, not fuck it up and have decent chemistry with, there are better and more creative drummers here that would have changed the DT formula too much and DT are very much a band resting on their laurels releasing the same record for a good 15 years now. A fun documentary, but they only ever wanted someone to play the parts given. I can't imagine the albums we'd have got if Marco landed the gig.

[@frederickfritzsche97]

Imo the only other possible choice would have been Marco Minnemann, he's insane. Other than him nobody was better than Mangini who is phenomenal and I hate that the DT fans can't accept him. That's not his fault tho, those people wouldn't accept anyone, as if Portnoy was some God who was so much better than anyone else somehow

[@Cobalt985]

@@frederickfritzsche97 seeing the guy complain about berklee being a "communist breeding ground" in this comments section I think we can get a good idea of who and why people fight so vigorously against Mangini. He's an amazing player and now has made some seriously great music with DT. Music that stands strong on its own without Dream Theater's name to back it up, too.

[@GuiltyHAL343]

Don’t sleep on Lang

[@TheTommyboy63]

Mike is technical, Marco is inspirational!

[@pvdaele]

@@frederickfritzsche97 , Marco Minneman and Peter Wildoer were musically more interesting to me. But I can't imagine them still playing the DT material 10 years later.

[@amranthabaniya5768]

The best thing to happen from all this is Marco Met up with Guthrie

[@benberron5393]

But he would have been the best choice for DT. Still, I'm glad we have him in The Aristocrats.

[@andym28]

And virgil played with probably the best musician of the last 100 years Alan Holdsworth.

[@larkstonguesinaspic4814]

My favorite drummer out of these guys is Marco . He is a very musical and a Creative drummer , Just listen to him on Steven Wilson's Raven that Refused to Sing . He brought so much to that album . but still I think Mike Mangini was the fit for DT .

[@mejsjalv]

Probably one of the most interesting "reality shows". All the guys auditioning are insanely skilled. And there's just no way you can just "wing it" auditioning for DT.

[@VegasSongwriter]

Everybody else has to struggle to keep up with Portnoy's parts, but Marco looks like he has to slow down.

[@guithegood87]

Marco was my favourite, but the cookie monster shirt got him cut.

[@randomhalf-mapplesiruphalf1666]

Guilherme Vitoriano Pereira Me it is Thomas

[@GothPopTV]

I heard it. Dude was definitely too fast at a couple different times. That was probably why they went with Mike... That and he looks like Kylo Ren

[@CavalloDiSpade]

I personally liked Donati the most, but yeah they all were really good

[@firatbalkaya]

Technique: Virgil Look: Thomas Best Name: Mangini Best Performance: Minnemann

[@unknownxyz7]

So you liked Thomas, huh ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@cristiannunes5456]

Shame: Aquiles

[@sepita10]

Cristian Nunes Too humble for DT

[@cristiannunes5456]

If he was REALLY humble, he would not have even tried to get into the DT... Mike Mangini simply toyed with the songs as if they were easy, deserved the spot!

[@sepita10]

Cristian Nunes sure, decline the chance to play with the best band in the world simply because every other drummer in the audition is better than you. Smart.

[@JazzyJonas]

I heard Marco was their first choice, but they didn't want him to play with any other bands so he said no? Juicy rumor, don't know if it's true.

[@noonesenemy89]

Fell in love with wearing the cookie monster shirt to that serious audition. Cool guy!

[@jsmit7730]

Thomas Lang is levels upon levels beyond the others. He just doesn't have the hair.

[@johnvincent1823]

This

[@CDMAHTCDESIRE]

or the time to learn a song...

[@jollez8]

He was my favorite too, the dynamics man.

[@spotterpt7706]

The best of them all refused to go! Check out Bobby Jarzombek!

[@razadrum]

No, but you're about the hair

[@m.a.nathaniel7660]

Marco Minnemann hands down....best guy to work with: Peter Wildoer!

[@adamgordon]

Definitely Marco! I met this chap in a bar in Lake Elsinore CA and had some beers with him. His crazy sense of humour (he loves Dumbland by David Lynch) and drumming talent are just out of this world.

[@caryd67]

All these guys are incredible, but it’s Virgil for me. Slayed it, with traditional grip!

[@davidhenrylake2047]

It's like Carl Palmer playing for Queensryche. Talented but not for them.

[@aaron3423]

nothing is more metal than wearing a cookie monster shirt

I would be still listening to Dream Theater if they adapted to Marco's personality and projects. I mean, everybody in DT released personal projects. I think Marco would have taken DT to the next level of perfection, his personality also would have been very challenging for them. I imagine Marco stealing the show from all of them.

[@andreslyon13]

The reason why derek's blast sounds that loud Is because His drums weren't recorded properly like with the others, you can notice that His recordings were just the raw audio of the cameras

[@allfasten]

These auditions were a charade. DT wanted Mangini all along, they just wanted to make a show of it. Listen to some of post audition interviews.

[@dagoelius]

+allfasten Absolutely. Virgil Donati for me was(and always is) the stand out. He thinks 'muscially' alot like Rudess. Pushes songs in interesting ways.

[@croakingfrog3173]

Really? I can't see them stooping that low. You think they would set all those other guys up to waste their time and effort like that? Even to the point of forcing the hispanic guy to interrupt a tour and stress about visas (see full audition videos)?

[@danlc95]

I always got the feeling the Lang "threw" the audition. I wouldn't ever think a drummer of his pedigree would ever struggle with any of that material. He's like a damn living robot.

[@WillEnj0y]

Am I the only one who loved Peter Wildoer? really great playing and tone

[@SagarmayBiswas]

No man. His work in James Labrie Project was absolutely phenomenal. I respect him for his foot work \\m//

[@LuisSoto-nl3ti]

No! Peter is my favourite, what a great drummer!!!

[@JPnME4ever]

One of the Best! among Marco and Thomas. Monster! Salute and Respect!

[@tikidrummerpoi]

I think if not Mangini...Wildoer would have been my choice...very smooth and easy yet powerful and right on cue...there others were much too choppy in their transitioning to play as an ensemble with DT. Mangini and Wildoer had the best flow and fit right in there...

[@troywest]

I'm with you ... Wildoer was amazing - my personal fav.

[@chetthehoss]

Marco wins for best audition shirt and performance. I'm so glad that he wasn't chosen by Dream Theater though. That band would have absolutely sucked the life out of him. He's so much more fun-loving and whimsical.

[@SadisticKillerXx]

The Aristocrats wouldn't exist

[@chetthehoss]

@@SadisticKillerXx Too true. What a great trio.

[@AlexVanTrue]

they sucked the life out of mangini. he was great with steve vai and in this audition...but he died

[@derhenry6577]

Actually he was chosen by DT in the first place but he declined the offer. The contract that was given to him said that he couldn't join other projects/bands. He didn't want that to be so DT had to take their 2nd choice; Mangini

[@chetthehoss]

@@derhenry6577 Where did you find that information? I watched the film that the band put out, and of course that wasn't the story they wanted to put out. They made it sound like Mangini was the best fit completely. I'm just curious where you found the alternative version ;)

[@voxblu]

Was cool to see Marco do this. His own band is miles beyond Dream Theater. Overall I'm amazed at the talent level though.

[@SeriesTube01]

I'm not a drummer, I don't know who's the best. All seem talented but after watching all the guys, I have to say I loved Minnemann's drumming, flawless and super energetic!!

[@mariobargonetti6037]

They really missed out on Marco, dude was a beast for the recent Joe Satriani tour.

[@jeremyjohnson9222]

They tried to hire him. He declined. See my other comments as to why

[@joakimhinesbredahl5781]

Jeremy Johnson I’m sure it was the right choice for him, but damn I would have loved to hear a DT album with Marco Minneman on drums, next level creativity....

[@jeremyjohnson9222]

Joakim Hines Bredahl absolutely

[@samkingsounds]

@@joakimhinesbredahl5781 True. But we got to hear two Steven Wilson albums with Marco Minnemann which were out of this world.

[@nu-metalguy1012]

Virgil donati was my favorite, playing stuff like that the way he was holding the stick just looks super awesome

[@Vincentalbot]

Check the young new drummer of Angra : Bruno Valverde, looking foward.

[@Cameron5540]

I was really surprised to see a Metal drummer hold traditional grip.

[@ronaldent5781]

Virgil Donati is not a metal drummer. He is a much more allround player. Watch some of his videos.

[@SpiralstaticXX]

Cameron5540 Virgil is more of a session drummer and traditionally more of a "light touch" player. He's an incredible drummer and it was cool to see him play DT but it's definitely not his style. They are right not to pick him for the gig.

[@pierreoconnor5635]

Virgil used to be in a DT cover band, i cant figure out how its definitely not his style...

[@jeroengevers]

Marco is my favorite. That's why he should stick with Guthrie Govan in The Aristocrats. Suits him way better. Better music too.

[@mmv4920]

1- Virgil 2- Mike 3- Thomas - Marco - Derek - Peter 4- Aquiles (bad day) 25 - Lars

[@BrianAuer]

If Marco was a fan, then definitely. He is one of the greatest and most inspiring musicians on the planet right now. He is way more than just a great drummer. He wold be an asset to ANY band project he joined. I think The rest are a really hard call. They are all amazing. I was happy to see Mike get the part because of his passion. The last guy would have been my next choice. For the band. What a great and natural feel. I could care less who is better. It's all what you like. I say well done to DT for their tough decision.

[@ultraag8]

6:04 I feel bad, you can see the pain in his eyes

[@zoroonfire4619]

Man, I felt so bad for him. The work that guy did on Angra was amazing, I was hoping he could get into DT.

[@rafaellago172]

He's not very good at proggy stuff, he himself has said it a couple times. However, he's a remarkable metal drummer with some good ideas for fills. Also the dude is freakishly strong. I've once attended one of his drum clinics and it was like a freaking earthquake.

[@bigmike9558]

Peter Wildoer honesty impressed the the hell outta me I didn’t expect him sound that great with them. Marco was my favorite, Mangini was a good choice for them, but the could of took Peter and done absolutely fine

[@joelthanhledelgado9565]

All these drummers are awesome 😎👏🏻 but they forgot to show Lars Ulrich audition 😂😂😂

[@jebrengl]

meanwhile lars is in metallica and he dont care who the fck re d.t

[@SoulmongerV2]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnu1kJ2tnZd7j6s

[@kartirnium]

That's the one where john bonham comes in, slaps him, spits on his face and shoves a Jack Daniels down his throat.

[@mcgrath274]

Why. Who wants to see the drums being set up

[@MarlonLeandroSilva]

Hahahahaha

[@isaacperetz5984]

I would’ve hired Lang because of how fucking heavy and clean it sounds. Can you imagine Train Of Thought played by him? It would be godly!

[@KevinLuWX]

If you watched the full audition. Lang failed the riff test.

[@Toni_560]

And now you have a drummer with a plastic set playing each night just from the sound

[@complexdevice]

@@osbrax Now watch him play with Chris Turner on "Triggered".

[@complexdevice]

@@KevinLuWX Eh, i'd say the way they went about it was the problem. Not Lang's playing. They wanted a robot and they got one. To their detriment.

[@KevinLuWX]

@@complexdevice You didn't watch the audition then, he visibly messed up.

[@kaiquemendes3867]

I don't know why they didn't put Angra in Aquiles biography, the biggest band he played

[@dhfonz]

Achio que o Rafael ligou pros caras e pediu pra tirar por ue o nome Angra tem direitos autorais lol

[@geraldorodriguew3605]

Eh triste q o cara tenha ficado nervoso e n tenha ido mt bem

[@kaiquemendes3867]

@Alan James acho q aí já é demais kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[@dossantos558]

@@dhfonz Não. É porque não queriam passar vergonha mesmo, senso a banda original do pior baterista do teste.

[@matsjonsson9492]

Who's the best? Tie between Minneman and Lang. In my opinion.

[@lukather1236]

Why, Mike Mangini, why don't you play like in the audition now? :(

[@felipetenorio3450]

he got all rolled up to play hell's kitchen, if they put this as a test he would not have been accepted

[@lawnboyfreak]

I remember seeing Mangini as the first one to audition and thought, how is anyone going to top that? Then I seen Marco, and thought, holy crap he is bad ass! This was the first time I heard Marco and have been a fan ever since. He’s just incredible!

[@GG-iu6xd]

Amazing drummer. I am glad he is not with DT as Marco is at his best when he is "free" like when playing with Guthri and Bryan.

[@lawnboyfreak]

@@GG-iu6xd I totally agree. I just liked his feeling over Mangini’s.

[@FredOliveiraTecladista]

Marco Minnemann is a TITAN of drums!

[@St3ph4n3]

Marvelous energy...

[@michaelolson]

The amount of musical joy while playing says it all. This guy was having fun and I think we all had fun watching him play , winner for me

[@SiversonGorski]

Aquiles Priester was so underrated on this one... that dude is SOMETHING. How come they didn't mention that he played for Angra?! And later on, Primal Fear.

[@amazingawesomekawaiiexplos1690]

indeed, and showing a clip where he screwed up is in poor taste. I bet some of the other drummers also slipped some beats from time to time.

[@JonahLukeHeavyshield]

Amazing Awesome Kawaii Explosion Animation LOL I wouldn’t doubt that either, those are some challenging songs to learn. I bet a few run throughs of the songs and he’d be perfect at it.

[@dima.jiharev]

@@amazingawesomekawaiiexplos1690 3:18 But one drummer didn't slip the BLAST BEATS!

[@danielfawley4711]

Cookie monster shirt wins hands down.

[@alexscarboro6786]

Do you know what song he was playing?

[@umutonuralppolat9352]

Alex Scarboro a nightmare to remember

[@alexscarboro6786]

@@umutonuralppolat9352 Thank you!

[@GuitarMAXMusic]

I've always wondered why they didn't have Bobby Jarzombek audition...

[@andre-michelgoulet6933]

+MaxxxwellC Bobby stated in other interviews he declined the invitation. He has his reasons.