Dreams Come From Dragons: Balerion & Daenys the Dreamer - Song of Ice and Fire - House of the Dragon

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David Lightbringer

David Lightbringer

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@wafflingmean4477
@wafflingmean4477 4 ай бұрын
*All the other Targaryen dragons meeting Balerion in the afterlife* Balerion: "I was gone for 5 goddamn minutes."
@johnbuxton4484
@johnbuxton4484 4 ай бұрын
Last time I was this early the first men were just men
@khalzoro-bl4kl
@khalzoro-bl4kl 4 ай бұрын
😭😭
@leoallan5749
@leoallan5749 4 ай бұрын
@@khalzoro-bl4kl😭😭
@snipinnukes
@snipinnukes 4 ай бұрын
Banger
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 4 ай бұрын
Last time i was this late, I showed up like 3 days after Tywin
@hoon_sol
@hoon_sol 4 ай бұрын
Last time I was this early the old gods were the new gods!
@Barendsen2
@Barendsen2 4 ай бұрын
I like this, it kind of gives credit to Show Viserys being obsessed with Valyria, because he bonded Balerion for a hot second and Balerion wanted to go back
@jazwhoaskedforthis
@jazwhoaskedforthis 4 ай бұрын
ooo that makes sense too
@caseco4979
@caseco4979 4 ай бұрын
My cats send me dreams about waking up and feeding them. They're pretty accurate
@julieloucalcote1368
@julieloucalcote1368 4 ай бұрын
Hey! I get those dreams from my cats too!!😂
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 4 ай бұрын
As a warg my direwolves send me telepathic visions of belly rubbies and ear scwatchies
@persephone342
@persephone342 2 ай бұрын
This happens to me all the time! I can be astral traveling the 7 Kingdoms, but when Chauncy catches wild prey he alerts me by appearing in dreams saying, “Fancy Feast, or I’m bringing in this snake I killed just for you!!😊” Dave, you’ve got Rhaegar’s wig slayed! Looks good!
@JomnasJomnani
@JomnasJomnani 4 ай бұрын
I was JUST thinking about making a meme about dragondreams. Balerion seems to always foresee big events like the Doom and the others while Dreamfyre is just constantly on the phone with Helaena at this point. "Helaena the rats! The Ratking Helaena! Lookout for the Rats! The Ratking burned his family, he will burn yours too Helaena! Your bother is trying to kill your other brother Helaena! You won't believe the gossip here in the Dragonpit! Tomorrow you will slip on a banana peel!!"
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 4 ай бұрын
Dreamfyre as an incoherent loopy dreaming dragon just sent me 🤣
@Midgert89
@Midgert89 4 ай бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer Dreamfyre needs to cut back and stop smoking it up everytime poor Haelena needs a nap.
@thomasleonardis711
@thomasleonardis711 4 ай бұрын
@@Midgert89lmao. Even Dreamfyre praises Garth!!
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 4 ай бұрын
@@JomnasJomnani Daenys the Dragonmemer
@saraaberdeen12
@saraaberdeen12 4 ай бұрын
@DavidLightbringer ,what do you think George ment when he said, (paraphrasing here) the birthing of the Dragons has something to do with the men or the male linearage of House Targaryen/ Dane/ Valerion.
@systlin2596
@systlin2596 4 ай бұрын
I've been insisting to my friends for YEARS that the dragons are smarter than we give them credit for and have their own plans. I LOVE THE SMELL OF VINDICATION IN THE MORNING
@spicypineapple2778
@spicypineapple2778 4 ай бұрын
That’s not a new concept at all lol your friends were just hard headed
@MarcosSantos-dj6lk
@MarcosSantos-dj6lk 4 ай бұрын
this art of Daenys the Dreamer looks gorgeous
@Dani_1012
@Dani_1012 4 ай бұрын
Possibly one of the best fanarts in the fandom
@DustinManke
@DustinManke 3 ай бұрын
I now officially think that if they ever bring this story to the screen, they should get Chloe grace moretz to play Daenys.
@taytayqueen7024
@taytayqueen7024 4 ай бұрын
So interesting to me that Halaena claimed Dreamfyre. Really makes you think how they bonded.
@westcoastweird455
@westcoastweird455 4 ай бұрын
I can’t begin to profess how much it makes my heart happy how much you give credit to all the theorists and idea slingers. It makes this channel so authentic. I know I’m gonna hear the best from all the minds! Thank you David and friends.
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 4 ай бұрын
@@westcoastweird455 it's always been important but even moreso today with how easily dismissed things like citation and credits can be
@miguelitomarques8
@miguelitomarques8 4 ай бұрын
First time I was this early, Alys Rivers was just a baby barn owl.
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 4 ай бұрын
@@miguelitomarques8 the owls are not what they seem
@hoon_sol
@hoon_sol 4 ай бұрын
@@ThommyofThenn: It's funny you should make that reference, because the scenes with Daemon at Harrenhal have definitely had a distinctively Lynchian feel to them at times.
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 4 ай бұрын
@@hoon_sol Glad fans of that are here too. It feels a bit too direct to not be a nod!
@Hannah-mu1uj
@Hannah-mu1uj 4 ай бұрын
I’m absolutely living for the Rhaena focus in this analysis. She is kind of like the connection between Daenys and Daenerys in my mind and I think it’s a shame there’s so little talk of her and dreamfyre when they have so much thematic importance! I kind of think Daenys may be the ancestor spirit in dreamfyre. She’s like a foil to balerion in some ways.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 4 ай бұрын
I'm gonna make a whole ass Rhaena video in the off-season don't you worry
@tamasglatz8329
@tamasglatz8329 4 ай бұрын
One thing I find really interesting is that this also explains why these dreams are so hard to interpret sometimes. Maybe the dragons want their “messages” to be as clear as possible, but humans still find them confusing because the mind of a dragon sees the world and thinks in a very different way. These dreams are a gateway to the inner workings of a dragon’s mind.
@LuMoRo34
@LuMoRo34 4 ай бұрын
A couple of days ago I was speculating about why Drogon, Rhaegal and Viserion looked like Dreamfyre (and someone else pointed me that Drogon was said to be The Black Dread reborn) and I thought "well the three dragon eggs stolen by Elisa Farman were from a clutch of Dreamfyre AND probably Balerion" and now I am realizing that those two dragons are both related to dragon dreams (I mean DREAMfyre has it in her name). Poor Dany got the dragons with the crazydreams gene pool, but maybe that's how it had to be.... Also, this video also made me think that even Aerea was a dreamer or something like that, cause IIRC Rhaena was even scared that her daugther claimed and flee with that dragon, maybe she felt the same impulse or instinct that Dany felt when she entered the pyre. All of this is very mindblowing, too much for a sunday morning haha..
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 4 ай бұрын
Aerea having a dream is a good potential explanation for her actions yeah
@ChloeGeater
@ChloeGeater 4 ай бұрын
love love loving everything you just said
@mjrtaurus2714
@mjrtaurus2714 4 ай бұрын
As a people who are very likely chimeric in nature thanks to the Bloodstone Emperor's experiments, the idea of a sphinx being a divine being to the Valeryians is a stroke of genius. The ferocity of beasts and the knowledge of man bound together by the wisdom of an exalted ancestor's soul would be the pinnacle for every well to do Valyrian dragonlord to strive for. The sphinx is the riddle. The sphinx is the god-ancestor. The sphinx is enlightenment.
@koks_jakiescyfrybozajetnynick
@koks_jakiescyfrybozajetnynick 4 ай бұрын
Human sacrification to a dragon, and then one being able to bond with dragon because of the blood conection with sacrificed is crazily good theory. Fits sooo well, and is exactly the type of thing that George would write
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 4 ай бұрын
Ned Stark were committing sacrifices without him knowing it. By killing the men who ran from the Watch.
@jeambeam3173
@jeambeam3173 4 ай бұрын
​@@sophiawilson8696that has zero to do with dragons. It would be related to the Weirwood network as far as those he has executed at the trees
@Slechy_Lesh
@Slechy_Lesh 3 ай бұрын
And there are many other parallels with the Weirwoods and the Dragon magic. Seems that they share the same magical communication highway too!
@Slechy_Lesh
@Slechy_Lesh 3 ай бұрын
Also Balerion was 'the size of a horse' when Daenys claimed him - which means he is a symbolic horse/(gallows)tree/weirwood tree
@johnnyrose5161
@johnnyrose5161 2 ай бұрын
@@sophiawilson8696 omfg does he kill as many men as he has kids with direwolves? its been a while since i read GOT
@three-eyed_magpie
@three-eyed_magpie 4 ай бұрын
Dave always has the best art in his vids.
@tyrroo
@tyrroo 4 ай бұрын
And he always clearly credits the artists with every pic, not just in a list at the end or in the vid info
@crinklescat1871
@crinklescat1871 3 ай бұрын
Yesss! I screenshotted a few to see if I can look them to up to buy a piece. I love that he credits them.
@thomasleonardis711
@thomasleonardis711 4 ай бұрын
It’s even said that the children who were sickly grew stronger and more robust once a dragon egg was placed in the cradle with them which is similar to Dany being refreshed when she has her dragon dreams.
@lindenshepherd6085
@lindenshepherd6085 4 ай бұрын
Not to mention, the dragon riders seem more resistant than even their own Valyrian kin to disease and chronic conditions.
@JomnasJomnani
@JomnasJomnani 4 ай бұрын
I thought it was extremely interesting that Viserys (at least in the show) was so into Dragondreams but seemingly hadn't gotten an accurate (or real) one in a while. But when Balerion was still alive he had accurate visions aka when he still had a Dragon to send him some. Sadly he didn't seem to make that connection. And he also didn't tell his obviously Dragondream-having doughter about them, what an enduring mystery indeed.
@velvetalex4766
@velvetalex4766 3 ай бұрын
@@thisguy8106I thought the dream he had where all of the dragons roared as one was when he was talking to Aemma while she was in the bath about the birth of their son?
@inkandecho
@inkandecho 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if the “mad dreamers” who thought burning would turn them into dragons actually represented that in death their souls would merge into future dragons. The sacrifice would mirror the og sacrifices made to bond dragons in the first place. Some of the bloodline are meant to be dragon riders, some to become dragons themselves. 👀
@sabinebirdsong929
@sabinebirdsong929 3 ай бұрын
Damn this comment is excellent
@fouff925
@fouff925 4 ай бұрын
Balerion is the harbinger to the Targaryen house. He even reincarnated and helped Daenerys with her dragon dreams and gave her prophecies. He was basically the anchor. Once balerion died, the house fell
@anthonysale4915
@anthonysale4915 4 ай бұрын
Oh it's Sunday morning, so I guess it IS time to praise Garth. 🙏
@PITAchic84
@PITAchic84 4 ай бұрын
This makes so much sense. Daenys confirms it in my eyes. Just because the dragons don't *talk* to humans doesn't mean they have *no means* of direct communication
@sommer8337
@sommer8337 4 ай бұрын
I really love your ideas and the way you communicate them. It’s also fantastic that you give other content creators their flowers. You’re amazing! Thank you for a phenomenal video!
@freckles0829
@freckles0829 4 ай бұрын
Daenys is such a mysterious and fascinating character! I love listening to all of the ASoIaF KZbinrs theorize the implications of Daenys being Balerion's first rider!! 💜👑💯🧝🏻‍♀️ The Disputed Lands has a good video about Daenys, her mother and The Doom!
@julieloucalcote1368
@julieloucalcote1368 4 ай бұрын
I 💜Disputed Lands too
@LGManDee
@LGManDee 4 ай бұрын
Ohhh I'm never here this early! I offer this humble comment to the Old Gods and the New.
@snowyowl235
@snowyowl235 4 ай бұрын
I'm so early that the Great Empire of the Dawn is still kicking
@serpounce5699
@serpounce5699 4 ай бұрын
The moving Hightower intros are so much cooler than static 2d artwork.
@anorangetabby
@anorangetabby 4 ай бұрын
Septons, Wyrms, and Wyverns: A True Telling of the Adventures of the Half-Maesters of Essos.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 4 ай бұрын
It sounds like a three people walked into a bar joke
@anorangetabby
@anorangetabby 4 ай бұрын
When I got here, the video had zero views. To please the algo-gods, I streamed this from three separate YT accounts on three separate devices.
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 4 ай бұрын
What dark Freehold magic is this
@anorangetabby
@anorangetabby 4 ай бұрын
​@@ThommyofThenn My sorcery of Starry Wisdom is for the priests and priestesses only, ser.
@systlin2596
@systlin2596 4 ай бұрын
This is the Way
@jessjess23brooks89
@jessjess23brooks89 4 ай бұрын
​@@anorangetabbyPriestess of Starry Wisdom is part of my Discord tag, but I have absolutely zero qualifications to handle such magic.
@noahh2338
@noahh2338 4 ай бұрын
Dark algorithmic blood magik..noice!
@moiz85
@moiz85 4 ай бұрын
Septons, wyrms, and wyverns is definitely a sequel we need.
@Drew_Thompson
@Drew_Thompson 4 ай бұрын
Also Draconet is a mouthful, call it Hotmail.
@sweetpea3349
@sweetpea3349 4 ай бұрын
I agree with the dragon dream theory!! You are spot on. I wish they would use Helena more in the show and somehow every day viewers could come to this conclusion as well. BTW I love the artwork that you show in your videos! These artists are amazing and it’s so cool you are able to use them in your storytelling. Oh and you are hilarious. I love your humor!!
@cloverazar5315
@cloverazar5315 4 ай бұрын
Watch me update this eight times but to start: at 3:39 I LOVE this theory - that the “ancestor spirits” inside the dragons have access to the astral plane and thus are unmoored in the river of time and can see past and present? No wonder they’re sending dreams - it’d be like trying to shout through soundproofing that the house is on fire.
@queenpersephone9685
@queenpersephone9685 4 ай бұрын
The art!!! So good! What an excellent video David! My favorite content always involves Dragons and Dreamers.
@WeesanTV
@WeesanTV 4 ай бұрын
What a huge one! Thanks for this video, Mr David Lightbringer person! You're making HOTD / ASOIAF really enjoyable for me and I'm always glad to see new uploads from the channel! ♥
@MichelMawon4982
@MichelMawon4982 4 ай бұрын
My dragon gave me a prophetic dream that you’d be wearing your red square specs today. (I followed your instructions and clicked when I noticed when you published this so KZbin knows what we already know…you’re fantastic!) 🎉
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 4 ай бұрын
thank you so much Michel! what's your dragon's name, he's on point
@yanvictory2832
@yanvictory2832 4 ай бұрын
In Tolkien's lore all dragons have basically 2 spirits. Glaurun's (Father of Dragons) eyes "glow with Morgoth spirit", since hi used to infuse all his works and creations with it, to make them mor powerfull. In the end, that kind of makes him luse his "grace" and become lass ancelical than the other Ainur... Very Valyrian vibes, right?
@themanyinone6
@themanyinone6 4 ай бұрын
I think this might be one of my favorite videos from you, it’s so well done and it encompasses like 10 theories in one, it’s beautiful😍 Cleo’s dancing and singing really does wonders!😂 Great job on this, as always, and I’m certain this will join the list of the ‘videos to rewatch’ when I need the fix on asoiaf theories🙌🏼💕
@quincy839
@quincy839 4 ай бұрын
The art looks so good!
@panosbaratheon6385
@panosbaratheon6385 4 ай бұрын
I really missed those kind of videos from you. Be good Lucifer
@NotoriousTim
@NotoriousTim 4 ай бұрын
I really like that sunday is just full of all kinds of HOTD and ASOIAF videos. Sunday is the day of Ice and Fire. Love your vids david.
@xXImikoXx
@xXImikoXx 4 ай бұрын
I thought in the Tapestry opening, the man standing behind the woman with the sword and the bowl, was Azor Ahai making Lightbringer, by plunging it through Nyssa Nyssa's heart.
@lutilda
@lutilda 4 ай бұрын
Yes! And can easily be Sacrificing his wife to hatch a dragon egg! Because it's not so clear that he's literally making a sword in that image! I think it's a clue
@lynnep0906
@lynnep0906 4 ай бұрын
Your theories are always so fascinating and well done! Would love a full breakdown of Yi Ti at some point; you’ve touched on it but a video solely devoted to it would help the gap between seasons (and books) so much! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@SBGClub-pi7tk
@SBGClub-pi7tk 4 ай бұрын
YESSS! David! David! David! David is the champion David is the champion!
@alonnawood
@alonnawood 4 ай бұрын
the art!!! the eyes convey so many emotions at once. ertac KILLED IT!! and this theory is sick🔥🔥 i love it
@chrysippus4321
@chrysippus4321 4 ай бұрын
I always thought that part of preparing an egg for hatching was a sacrifice. The dragon keepers knew this and took care of it without bothering the Targaryens. Once the keepers all died in the ahem…incident…, no one knew it required a death to prep the eggs.
@Javierw1f
@Javierw1f 4 ай бұрын
Going to watch the whole video
@MyNameMeansNames
@MyNameMeansNames 4 ай бұрын
It’s been said that some Targaryens have been dreamers but according to this theory it can be that some dragons are dream senders instead. And what’s interesting is when we look at all the dragonriders who were dreamers, they were either the rider of Balerion, Dreamfyre or Drogon. Dreamfyre could be coming from Balerion and it’s been said that Dany’s eggs were Dreamfyre’s but stolen. So maybe it’s only that dragon lineage who sends the dreams or just the stronger
@alex52043
@alex52043 4 ай бұрын
There were a few dreamers in the Dunk and Egg series as well. This was after the death of the dragons.
@MyNameMeansNames
@MyNameMeansNames 4 ай бұрын
@@alex52043 Yes, I know. But Dreamfyre was an highly fertile dragon as I know and she was in the dragon pit longer than Syrax or any other known fertile dragons, so maybe the dragon eggs which brought dreams to Targaryens post-civil war are still her eggs. Not that I strongly defend, just an idea
@yanvictory2832
@yanvictory2832 4 ай бұрын
I will just kind of put all my thoughts in this comments. I'm very lazy when it comes to writing in English, but I have noticed some little things, especially about the dragon's lore, and I don't take any part in fandom discussions, but I don't think anyone has ever said that the wyverns in Sothoryos are the pterodactyls. In Tolkien's lore the fell beasts are very similar to those dinosaurs, and they have BEAKS, one of the things that makes there species very NOT dragons. I think the wyverns in George's story could be a reference to the Fell Beasts.
@Magmafrost13
@Magmafrost13 4 ай бұрын
14:40 we got another clue to this in HotD I think, we're told Rhaena (Daemon's daughter) attempted to claim a dragon on dragonstone but was rejected. Could be because she already has a bond with the unhatched Morning 37:45 I've been saying for a little while now, I think all three of those examples specifically saw visions of Dany's dragons hatching. All three scenarios have the three big things in common: lots of fire, a sacrifice of kings blood, and dragon eggs. And just a few days ago when I reread Dany's dream of Drogon hatching, HOH BOY does it sounds like what Aerys tried to do to King's Landing
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 4 ай бұрын
intersting notion!
@ChellTahs
@ChellTahs 3 ай бұрын
Gotta say I love that the creators in this community recommend one another’s content. Keep encouraging one another and teaching your audience how to admire rather than compete 👏👏👏
@noahh2338
@noahh2338 4 ай бұрын
Dragonlords of ancient asshai was the video that got me into your channel, a true banger..this one is a banger also, new theories always rolling in, gotta love it!
@CaveNJ
@CaveNJ 4 ай бұрын
I was convinced as soon as you started talking about Dreamfyre. They say she's a "notorious egg layer," which resonates a little too well with Rhaena's egg hatching methodology. In this theory, some Valyrian ancestor spirit in Dreamfyre is bent on hatching more dragons, but might have realized in Helaena's time that all the dragons are well and truly boned, instead sending her warnings of the horrors to come.
@jeffreybennett177
@jeffreybennett177 4 ай бұрын
I love the piece you had made for this video. Ertac’ knocked it out the park, I love his work!!!❤❤
@ertacaltinoz
@ertacaltinoz 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Jeffrey, glad you like it!🤜🏻🤛🏻
@DreyM3
@DreyM3 4 ай бұрын
it’s a dragon party
@dunkwm000
@dunkwm000 4 ай бұрын
hey there ❤
@DreyM3
@DreyM3 4 ай бұрын
@@dunkwm000 come here often?
@KingEdwardMMVIII
@KingEdwardMMVIII 4 ай бұрын
GET GLIDUS IN A LIVESTREAM
@Charles-In-Charge
@Charles-In-Charge 4 ай бұрын
Might be my favorite of your videos yet
@camilamercado5961
@camilamercado5961 4 ай бұрын
This makes me wonder if the first Targaryen ancestor who was sacrificed to create a dragon bond was a sorcerer/seer. Could explain why Daenys and the Targaryens were warned of the Doom of Valyria and not all the other dragonlords.
@setelliott9683
@setelliott9683 4 ай бұрын
I love the idea of actual dragons lairing an advanced psychic dragon culture from Stygai, and Ashai doesn't fully know, so the secret remains.
@setelliott9683
@setelliott9683 4 ай бұрын
When you put it like that, it's like distant future hell Pern.
@farahgiovanna
@farahgiovanna 4 ай бұрын
This is so amazing, and it totally makes sense, David, you did it again!❤
@farahgiovanna
@farahgiovanna 4 ай бұрын
As a sidenote, the dragons always reminded me of super fierce winged flame, throwing support animals
@jerb5965
@jerb5965 4 ай бұрын
Hey, David. I mostly listen while working, so don't get to comment much. I listen to all kinds of ASoIaF creators now, but you were the one who originally captured my attention. Just wanted to say thanks! Appreciate your vids.
@tigressjolie
@tigressjolie 3 ай бұрын
I really want to thank you for all of your informative videos. I lost my mom to suicide 2 years ago, and the trauma of it made my memory go wonky. I don’t remember things like I used to, so it’s wonderful to be reminded of information from the books I can’t recall as easily anymore.
@Fathoms09
@Fathoms09 4 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this one. Thank you once again for the great content, David!
@buvplays4078
@buvplays4078 4 ай бұрын
Does anyone else think the dragon lords with swords in Dany's dream are previous Azor Ahais communicating with her. Kinda like Deku and previous one for all users
@rosstemby1347
@rosstemby1347 4 ай бұрын
The dragons remember. Do you?
@lepatate3457
@lepatate3457 4 ай бұрын
Dragon dreams had Targs think they were the Lisan Al Gaib
@rivermistfae
@rivermistfae 4 ай бұрын
Okay, did not expect to hear Kansas, tho.. - Robby Steinhardt's fabulous ginger locks are only the 17th most epic part of that music vid 🧡🤘
@abigail6873
@abigail6873 4 ай бұрын
FANTASTIC VID DAVID!! Here are a few thoughts this sparked in me, if fire made flesh give dragon dreams, does ice made flesh give "other dreams"? Are their multiple "heads" in an Other (despite them looking like twins/clones)? Can we think about the expelled hivemind of the others in a similar fashion to the draconet? Could the others be sending dreams to Stark "blood of the other" people? Additionally, is each Valyrian family's draconet isolated? What happens to a draconet after the family dies/no new sacrifices given? Do the draconets need a physical place to reside (e.g. volcanos instead of weirwoods)? Can we glean/postulate anything about this or forgotten/abandoned weirwoodnets/hiveminds in Essos?
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 4 ай бұрын
I do think the others have prophecies / future sight. the Tower of joy scene implies they are watching for Jons birth
@Midgert89
@Midgert89 4 ай бұрын
If house targaryen were abolitionist and had tried to unite the seven kingdoms and rule it by themselves, the valyrian freehold would have almost certainly intervened to stop it. That necessitates the doom. If true however, the Targaryens clearly forgot their abolitionist roots by Viserys I time, going by HOTD. The focus on uniting the seven kingdoms clearly took priority, given how nostalgia for old valyria was prominent in their views from that point on.
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale 4 ай бұрын
Well, we have Aegon I to thank for that, his priority #1 was preparing Westeros for Zombies On Ice.
@jennifertomaiolo
@jennifertomaiolo 4 ай бұрын
I see David Lightbringer, I click! Awesome video as usual.
@SBGClub-pi7tk
@SBGClub-pi7tk 4 ай бұрын
There’s probably a few on Driftmark as well.
@konstantinospetrakos2536
@konstantinospetrakos2536 4 ай бұрын
Glimbus and Shwifty love your theories they had you in their thoughts in their latest Pictionary-theory video thingy.
@XCaliber-2000
@XCaliber-2000 4 ай бұрын
If a dragon bond can only be formed with an ancestor/blood relative, could this tell us who will be the third head of the dragon in winds/dream?? Dany - Drogon - Drogo (her husband) Jon - Rhaegal - Rhaego (share a grandfather) ??? - Viserion - Mirri Maz Duur Lhazarene god is the Great Shepherd, Targs we’re shepherds🤷🏻‍♂️
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 4 ай бұрын
Vic is gonna get stuffed in Viserion when th Dragonbinder so Euron can link
@XCaliber-2000
@XCaliber-2000 4 ай бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer makes more sense than me starting to cook up my ‘Mirri Maz Duur is the Nights Kings great great great x1000 granddaughter’ theory🤣
@GehennaDreams13
@GehennaDreams13 4 ай бұрын
Good Morning. Excited for this video. Love the dragon dreams.
@amapan81
@amapan81 4 ай бұрын
Got my Ceraxe-Ohs shirt in the mail yesterday! It’s really cute, which is an aesthetic you don’t see much with art related to fantasy. It is the only thing I’ve purchased related to ASOIAF that aren’t books or an HBO subscription. Can’t wait to show of my new dragon drip!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 4 ай бұрын
yeah!! I need to order mine :)
@girlnettles
@girlnettles 4 ай бұрын
@@amapan81 ayyyeee!!! Dragon drip!!
@Toker888
@Toker888 4 ай бұрын
Call me crazy.... It's said rhaegar would often go off to summerhall alone ? Did anyone ever recover the 7 dragon eggs from that location? Was he protecting them or looking for them? Were they giving him dreams ? Even if out of those eggs if even 1 remained with all the time rhaegar probably spent at summerhall even if he never found it, it still could've given him dreams if he was in the vicinity enough?
@tiffanymarsh2225
@tiffanymarsh2225 4 ай бұрын
Woohoo🎉I'm here in the first hr! Thank you so much LmL for your content. I love these books but as a stay at home caregiver I don't have the time to think so deeply about it. I love how you go on the same tangents as me lol
@nightside-of-siberia
@nightside-of-siberia 4 ай бұрын
There's probably a link between dragons and R'hollor, what with the whole visions and 'fire made flesh' thing. Makes me wonder how that'd play out re: the Valyrian gods - like, if your personal WMDs are connected to a *different* god entirely, how would your *actual* gods take that?
@UnbiasedMaester
@UnbiasedMaester 4 ай бұрын
Yes! I’ve been waiting for this one
@lilith5059
@lilith5059 4 ай бұрын
Kind of seems like male dragon dreamers are prone to madness.... Which also makes me theorize it wasn't Aegon the Conqueror doing any dreaming but one or both of his sisters, though my money is on Visenya. Perhaps I've just been watching too much Wheel of Time lately though hahahahaha
@Rafa36999
@Rafa36999 3 ай бұрын
Yea too much wheel of time
@trehubb6144
@trehubb6144 4 ай бұрын
To help with the Aenar theory I feel Aegon helping halt a potential Valyrian revival before conquering Westeros may help bridge a dragon dream gap.
@TuathaTuna
@TuathaTuna 4 ай бұрын
Yaaay been waiting for another one of your vids. No one else compares, I’m sorry!! 🎉 🐉
@hansholbein1047
@hansholbein1047 4 ай бұрын
10:35 Rhaegar chillin with a blackfyre blankie 🙂
@hinakhodiyara7883
@hinakhodiyara7883 4 ай бұрын
Couldn't click on this fast enough. Excellent video David. Thank you.
@Richardfondleson
@Richardfondleson 4 ай бұрын
I think the Farseer Trilogy is a good place to look for ideas on how some magical shenanigans work in the GoT world. Apparently the writer of the series and GRRM exchange manuscripts, and likely collaborate on similar ideas. Major spoilers for the Farseer Trilogy (Which I highly recommend reading, as they're excellent) ahead, as the story comparisons are major plot points. The main character, a warg, dies at the end of the first book, goes into his wolf for a time, and is brought back far wolfier than before. Just an obvious 1:1 with Jon, both down to the magic used as well as the characters involved. (Secret Prince and his Pup) The overarching plot of the series is an invasion, of sorts. Raiders are leaving black stones, which pretty much mind wipe the people in the vicinity, turning them into something comparable to wights. The Kingdom under attack had legends of fending off something similar far in the past with Dragons. So, the main plot is to figure out where Dragons went and get them working again. The dragons are found, a forest full of stone gargoyles scattered here and there. They are simply inactive, however, and wake from stone after being refueled with blood. One of the main characters even CREATES a dragon, and I think that the process involved is very similar to what we see all over GoT. It's effectively the forging of Lightbringer, but using a sculpture instead of a sword. He gets his block of cold stone, and as its worked into shape, more and more of himself goes into it, and it isn't until his "Self" is fully drained that his Dragon wakes. While GRRM apparently toyed with Glass Candles working as Lich Phylacteries, I would imagine waking dragons from stone requires both the blood AND soul of someone to go into it.
@leiana_yt
@leiana_yt 4 ай бұрын
Paired with GRRMs NotABlog dedicated to dragons, I took away some interesting notes, mainly on the point abt George saying, "𝘔𝘺 𝘥𝘳𝘢𝘨𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘯'𝘵 𝘯𝘰𝘮𝘢𝘥𝘪𝘤". He laid out that the Dragons basically "know home" & for the storyline, "Home" = Dragonstone & they don't stray too far from the isle bc all the dragons were born on Dragonstone. EXCEPT for Balerion who was born in Valyria. He says artificial homes, like the dragonpit will suffice, but it's also bc their dragonriders are nearby. KL dragonpit, dragonriders in Red Keep. 2(½ lol) reasons why that stuck out: • Aerea/Balerion's trip to Valyria ½• Balerion/Viserys "bond" • Nettles/Sheepstealer living in the mountains of the Vale; "fire witch & her dragon" My theory is that Balerion only gives ONE DREAM & it's a Doomsday Prophecy: • Daenys = Doom of Valyria • Aegon I = The Long Night • Viserys = The Dance of Dragons ~ I don't include Aerea bc Idk if she actually "bonded" with Balerion, so much as maybe she hitchhiked a ride on him & he decided "I wanna go home" & took off for Valyria & that ultimately was both of their undoing. ~ I don't include Maegor BUT ALOT of what transpired during Maegor's reign sets the stage for Viserys/The Dance...& since they introduced the idea of "Aegon's Dream" & it being passed down from King/Ruler to Heir. We have to suspect Maegor knew the Prophecy. Viserys' dream, as outlined in HOTD: "Our son born wearing Aegon's crown. I heard the sound of thundering hooves, splintering shields & ringing swords. I placed our son upon the Iron Throne & all the dragons roared as one." Viserys' Dream was a warning, again "doomsday" ⚠️ He perfectly describes the Dance. He thought it was triumphant tho, but it was actually WAR. The "dragons roaring as one", is all the dragons screaming bc they're dying. It was always meant to be a warning: Don't chase after a male heir. I also feel strongly that bc Viserys talks so much about Legacy, he thought that bc of HIS dream, HE was the one to sire the Prince/Promised & his judgement was clouded by Aegon's Dream. So he pushed for multiple tries to have a male heir w/ Aemma...we know how that ended. Viserys talks about it in that (amazing) Bonfire scene (Ep3/S1). I think Viserys claiming/riding Balerion ONCE is also a factor. Viserys in the show says he had that dream vividly ONCE & never again. I think that has to do w/ Balerion dying quickly after Viserys claimed him. An important detail is Viserys' mistrust of the dragons. He's actively kinda against the dragons. I think that's why his health suffered AND I think that's why the Throne "rejected" him (he always got cuts/wounds & they never healed). I believe it's all tied together. My point abt Nettles/Sheepstealer & why I'm covering it last, I think that's a preemptive strike from GRRM against HOTD 𝘐𝘍 the rumors are true that they're changing dragon-lore & Rhaena = Nettles in the show. I think he wants it explicitly known Sheepstealer would NEVER be in the Vale roaming around. It's a gentle way of saying "that's nonsense" 😅 The "fire witch" portion of Nettles story/mystery. I always LOVED it. I think the Nettles fandom is split between: She's an ordinary person who thru quick wit (or commonsense) bonded w/ a dragon & became a dragonrider. OR she has magic of some sort & along w/her commonsense, she bonded w/a dragon. I'm in the latter camp. I love the idea of Nettles having some kind of magic. I somewhat fall in-line w/ GreyArea's theory that Nettles might be part CoF. That's why there's this random bond between Nettles & Daemon towards the end of his life. Why he chooses Harrenhal/Isle of Faces to make his "last stand" & it being a MASSIVE blood/magic sacrifice to the Old Gods. ^^I'm in-line w/you tho that Daemon ISN'T a Greenseer or the progenitor of Bloodraven. I just think Daemon somehow comes across supernatural information -- maybe Rhaenyra explains Aegon'sDream finally or Nettles/CoF tells him of WWs? -- & he chooses for the greater good to make this sacrifice.
@LadyCrazyMonkeyPants
@LadyCrazyMonkeyPants 4 ай бұрын
This would mean that it would cement the theory that Dany’s dragons are the ones stolen by Elisa Farman. Because if they were any other clutch Dany would probably struggle to bond with them due to them having the wrong ancestors inside them.
@Charles-In-Charge
@Charles-In-Charge 4 ай бұрын
Right on time for some real knowledge!
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 4 ай бұрын
First regular video of yours to watch in a while, feels good
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 4 ай бұрын
Also woha, major supporting evidence it is
@fouff925
@fouff925 4 ай бұрын
Wow I watched this all. The way George wrote the dragons themselves communicating with their riders through dreams is so amazing. I think it might be only a few dragons but Rhaena is grated for the baby cradle idea
@lutilda
@lutilda 4 ай бұрын
About the cost to pay for a Faceless Men assassination is that they charge not based on a flat fee*, but a sliding scale based on rhe wealth of the "client". So it would be ad impactful on the finances for a peasant to pay as for a King, rather than a specific price. So maybe they sold the Lannisters the sword after they were told the price the FM were charging them (and probably couldn't "afford" otherwise as the cost of a FM is always meant to be huge, and that's just for 1 assassination, let alone a bunch). * I believe the books say this but i cant remember what Arya chapter.
@anaraquelcavalcantelopes
@anaraquelcavalcantelopes 4 ай бұрын
What incredible art! Perfectly compatible with the theory. Considering this theory as canon. Dragons would be a (fiery) counterpoint to the trees of the heart. And it raises other points such as: perhaps not all dragons follow the same objective.
@TheMarkXIX
@TheMarkXIX 4 ай бұрын
Rhaegar's ringtone is the same one I use. It totally had me. That silver-haired slippery fox(dragon - obviously not a Florent)
@HHisa
@HHisa 4 ай бұрын
Me too!
@robertkulb6640
@robertkulb6640 4 ай бұрын
It would be cool to read a series about Aenar & The Doom.
@MagicSecretsandMysteries
@MagicSecretsandMysteries 4 ай бұрын
‘The sphinx is the riddle not the riddler” has always bothered me… until now
@Dani_1012
@Dani_1012 4 ай бұрын
Do you think it's possible that before Daenerys dies fighting in the Long Night (it hurts but it's likely) that she will free her remaining dragons from the dragon bond? Since "a dragon is not a slave" maybe the dragonbond is a sort of slavery or servitude to the Valyrians that the dragons will need to be liberated of so that Dany finishes undoing the acts of her ancestors. I envision her dying with her remaining dragons all around her and her last words being "be free, my child". I don’t know how likely this theory is but I like it, I heard it from Hallowed Harpy in TikTok, she has made many theories about the dragons, specifically Viserion and how she believes Viserion is actually a female dragon who will carry on Dany's legacy after her death.
@WhitneyAllisonGG
@WhitneyAllisonGG 4 ай бұрын
I heard that Dreamfyre is somehow her egg comes from Balerion the Black Dread since both dragons give riders dreams 😊 ps this is a theory I stumbled on but I am not originator of it. I believe that Balerion was a male dragon is the father of Dreamfyre but the theory goes that he laid the egg that the later would come from.
@bonafide4874
@bonafide4874 4 ай бұрын
Omg I love this idea and it makes the dragons EVEN COOLER! Like, it's the dragons that have been giving the Targaryens/ their riders dreams this whole time?! It also really scratches an itch biologically for me. Coz like, if you're a dragon stuck in an egg, and you want to hatch, but you need fire in order to do so, a good way to make this happen (if you're magical that is), is to psychically communicate to someone that you need fire/ to be put in fire. Like a tree, you cannot move yourself, so you get a mammal to move you instead. So what magical adaption have you come up with? Send them dreams about putting you in fire. It's interesting as well haha, as dragons only hatching in fire is a bit like flora in Australia, some of which is fire-resistant, but some of which actually LIKE fire -- either because it benefits their population/ species in the long run (it helps them survive/ propagate while hurts their competitors) OR because fire is when they release their seeds/ fire is the only thing that cracks open their seeds. Edit: only half way through, but had to comment haha, but weird that THREE different Targaryens attempted in some way to get dragons back (Egg and Summerhall, the guy who drank the fire and killed himself, and the Mad King) but only ONE seemed to have dragon eggs on them when they tried to do this? I mean, the Mad King was mad, and I suppose the guy who drank the fire was well, probably mad as well, but how come no dragons hatched at Summerhall if Egg had fire, a blood sacrifice (seemingly, since a lot of people died I think), and he himself was a Targaryen? Also, if these three got the dreams yet where the only ones to act on it (or rather, act on it in such dangerous/ life threatening ways) it could mean that others also had similar dreams about dragons coming from fire, however, since they never acted/ tried to make this occur, we don't know. I mean, ik other Targaryens had dragon dreams, but did they specifically have dreams about dragons coming from fire, like these three (and Dany) did? Edit: it could also be that the original dragon-tamers/ people who created the bond btw dragons and humans (if it was created) saw/ had some access to the future, and then with each dragon they bonded to, the dragons got these dreams of the future. Then, when/ if their rider died, the dragon would be the 'storage' for the memories of the future and they would give this to their riders AND their eggs. This would explain why Dany had the vision of the Gemstone Emperors -- they could have been the ones to originally connect/ have access to the future, connect to the dragons, which had access to the future as well, and thus Dany is not rather seeing back in time but seeing a memory through the dragon dream of Drogon's ancestor seeing/ bonding with this. Idk, I know this is a stretch but your question of where are these prophecies coming from is interesting -- like are dragons just always connected/ can forsee the future, or could it be that back in time there was like an event/ source which allowed them to see thousands of years into the future, and then pass this information down to other dragons and to riders.
@IsmailSimba
@IsmailSimba 4 ай бұрын
Your theories have given me theories. Specifically, about how dragons came to be. I theorize that... When the other moon was destroyed by a comet, the bulk of the debris fell on the arm of Dorne. But, some debris, from the comet fell north of Yi Ti and the five black castles, opening a previously unknown volcano. The debris contained some kind of alien life that thrives on heat and managed to survive and thrive. The usurper emperor at the time sent people to study the impact who discovered these alien creatures. They also discovered that these creatures could take over other life forms. To solidify his power, the usurper merged these creatures with wyrens/wyrms to produce dragons. But the first dragons where uncontrollable, and they learned they could only kill them by drowning them in volcano. This probably led to the downfall of the usurper and the empire. Some of his researchers must have theorized that they need to merge the alien creatures and wyrms with another creature, one that is strong willed enough to be able to keep enough of their identity to bond with their own kin. To try this ritual, they would need to find a place with abundant volcano (Valyeria) so that if the experiment goes wrong, they can easily drown the resulting dragon and try again. During this process, they also discovered Valyrian steel. It's probably also how the Braavosi learned to make Dragon killing weapons, teaching it to Dorne.
@WhoIsCalli
@WhoIsCalli 3 ай бұрын
This was a real cool video. Loved this and I missed this in my watch along for HOTD, so thanks
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