Dreams (Zero Punctuation)

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[@theescapist]

Watch this week's ZP episode early! A Doom Retrospective: www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/doom-retrospective-zero-punctuation/

[@Dreamspawn1978]

.... okay I keep forgetting your old enough to remeber tho old sonic cartoon with Sally and Sonics gramoa being a badnik... The 80s were wierd :)

[@E1craZ4life]

The 80s were ScAaArY!

[@JimmehRulez]

No

[@adreamer5920]

Yahtzee finally acknowledges the deep lore of the same guy appearing into his house to ask him questions

[@VF.Milagre]

This is actually the second time though I can't remember which was the first video he did so

[@Contra7311]

This is actually the third time

[@ivanrzhanoy9389]

What the calculus?

[@SUPAHshark88]

@@ivanrzhanoy9389 I assume it's from his book series where curse words have been replaced with math symbols due to a non-swearing law, i.e ply (multiply), tract (subtraction), etc

[@Halford_Steel]

@@SUPAHshark88 ya you doint

[@LautrecOfCarim]

"You know, it will be a real shame when all of this gets taken over by perverts." And then I remember Yahtzee proudly telling Gabe how removing the censor bars from Leasure Suit Larry was one of his first ventures into modding and game design. History is fun. Heh.

[@TNTLotLP]

@@magmos6346 Dildos *are* fun toys though, so it's probably the natural conclusion to these things.

[@KuraIthys]

Yes, dildos can be quite fun... But that doesn't mean I'd want everything in sight to be a dildo... Although... I guess there are a LOT of things in the world that meet the functional criteria for being used as one... Hmmh. Well, that's my brain ruined for today...

[@Jsharts]

Lets all laugh at an industry that never learns anything teeheehee

[@lpsp442]

That sounds like an interesting LP, link?

[@MrGamelover23]

This probably won't, they don't want people making m rated games.

[@jayarby8494]

Can’t wait for Yahtzee’s E3 video this year! Oh, wait...,

[@doom7ish]

Ironic

[@theescapist]

Very sad about that. We were gonna do diaries with him at GDC, and E3 and now both are cancelled. :/

[@b3rz3rk3r9]

Well, they could reschedule after the "VIRUS" (YT apparently doesn't like mentioning it's real monikers) either naturally mutates a version that inoculates everyone, like Ebola, or we make a vaccine.

[@JP_Crimson]

Escapist Is it just me or did Yahtzee predicted it from his last year video at the end when he caught the hype train bug? Coincidence? Maybe.

[@theescapist]

@@b3rz3rk3r9 Won't be rescheduled. The major pubs are going to do digital events instead this year. That time of year is too hard to reschedule around because a place like the LACC is rented out year round, plus you've got other events to compete with right after E3 like SDCC, Gamescom, etc.

[@---_---_---_---___---]

1:10 - 1:16 Its disturbing that Yahtzee can sound like that, with no bitterness in his voice.

[@jadenbrooks6115]

It’s the exact same voice he used for a character in the Mogworld audiobook whose name I can’t remember

[@useraccount333]

He narrates his own audiobooks, so he does have some experience as a voice actor.

[@dickzabreesky7435]

Sounds a bit like his Henderson voice only with all the evilness removed

[@RaymanRocks822]

@@jadenbrooks6115 Oh that's why it sounded so familliar. Thanks mate.

[@emiledlund9559]

@@jadenbrooks6115 her name was Meryl

[@ophilliadin9630]

"Huniepop review when?" You can empty your determination.

[@lexman7179]

It was alright but the porn got in the way of the actual game.

[@E1craZ4life]

Lex Man If you click the link, you can see my take on the game.

[@vigorouslethargy]

You know, I haven't seen that guy faffing about in the ZP comments for a while now.

[@E1craZ4life]

@@vigorouslethargy If you look hard enough, you might find him.

[@AnomalySource]

Ophillia Din what’s Huniepop?

[@gamertagshadow-6227]

me: dreams is so pure that its hard for anyone to hate on it *yahtzee uploads a dreams video me: oh

[@smokinggnu6584]

And then the perverts arrived.

[@Kimtroverted]

@Honudes Gai I mean in fairness Yahtzee isn't a cynic so much as he is a critic. There's a substantial number of games he has openly enjoyed that he's ripped to absolute -shreds- on the channel because it is, first and foremost, a critique. Take everything he says here as something said for entertainment value, unless he openly says the thing is absolutely wank. Usually when he calls something "wank" then it probably is. The worst he's done for this is said it's overly fiddly and there's gonna be a pervert takeover eventually. ^^;;

[@anotherpersonfromnorfolk1587]

Dunkey: *Distant laughing*

[@StevenS757]

I don't think he's hating on Dreams so much as he's hating on Media Molecule. He even says that he gave thumbs ups to games that showed promise and thought it was going to be a real shame once the game got taken over by perverts.

[@roadent217]

@@Kimtroverted Usually, I'd agree with you, but this review seemed exceptionally cynical by his standards. He's less tearing into the design of the game, and more into its untapped potential - admittedly, because said potential is the main draw point on which the game is being sold, but still...

[@lordvaust5830]

I’m amazed there was a subtle Huniepop reference in a Yahtzee video. We all know he’s never gonna review it, I’m just amazed he’d ever acknowledge it in any way.

[@paulovinasrocha6166]

Not realy. Now that he has shown that he is aware of the game the annoying request for it will skyrocket

[@lordvaust5830]

paulo vinas rocha true, but how often does Yahtzee comply with Twat’s stupid requests?

[@paulovinasrocha6166]

@@lordvaust5830 almost never, but that will not stop these people from trowing their meme game request toward him. and it realy started to irritate me.

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

Lol he acknowledged it to explain the "harsh realities" of his job

[@franciscobalanar3453]

@@lordvaust5830 I'm pretty sure he got dogpiled to review Doki Doki Literature Club after he made a passing reference to it in another video. Funnily enough, the DDLC review has a Huniepop reference too.

[@nannobot1280]

I like how calculus is a an offensive word generally

[@merrittanimation7721]

I suppose it counts as a trigger word.

Merritt Animation It’s a whole new kind of swearing invented by starpilots in the future... on the Moon!

[@GameKeeper28]

Its a "Will Save The Galaxy For Food" reference.

[@Rigel_6]

What are you, some calculus?

[@bbsuffering]

Fuck me. No need to drop the 'Ca' word so casually.

[@hookiebookie1]

"Unfortunately he has bred" Yahtz, congrats on the offspring my dude!

[@thegamingaristocrat7615]

Christ, I haven't updated my swear matrix in years...

[@insaincaldo]

And why would you, it doesn't matter if the receiving party finds your language offensive as long as you aim to, they will get it.

[@jacksmith8299]

“Unfortunately, he’s bred” Does Yahtzee have a kid? Never talks about his family, but I respect that.

[@user-bf5sc8pn8x]

Will have a kid in ~9 months I assume

[@E1craZ4life]

@@user-bf5sc8pn8x The kid was born I think two months ago.

[@VanessaMagick]

AFAIK he keeps his private life private, but his wife accidentally let slip on a livestream that she was pregnant.

[@E1craZ4life]

@@VanessaMagick On top of that, his Dev Diary slipped one week after his wife gave birth.

[@anotherpersonfromnorfolk1587]

(Cuphead Review) Yahtzee: Until the game grades you with a C- but honestly stick your grades up your ass Cuphead. I'm happy and I won't have to beat my kid tonight.

[@FizzleFX]

'Dreams' is *REFORGED'S* EULA ... on CD. "We own all your stuff" - the game!

[@headlesshunter8435]

At least thats the point of the game and its not shitting on a preestablished fanbase

[@koatam]

They own Mario? /s

[@D_YellowMadness]

@@headlesshunter8435 Yeah, Dreams has an excuse which is that you're upoading things to their game so they kind of have to own it, at least to some capacity so they can do things like spotlights that are needed to keep the game alive. Reforged had no reason to do it but did it anyway.

[@FizzleFX]

@@headlesshunter8435 As much as that sucked, we had about 20years of fun before... and now we don't even have that. Not sure if that softens the blow or the fight was over before it even started.

[@warmfuzzyvoid]

I was more angry when they took WC3 off my computer forcefully

[@merrittanimation7721]

5:16 Oh my god he referenced the Huniepop guy. That's probably the closest he'll get to reviewing it..

[@E1craZ4life]

He used HuniePop alongside Sakura Beach, NekoPara, and Dream Daddy to explain the mistake that led to him reviewing Doki Doki Literature Club.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@@E1craZ4life Donkey Donkey Ligature Clam is already a mistake on its own

[@FixerFour]

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine you should leave clever wordplay to Yahtzee

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@i hate anime Fuck off, kid.

[@12isaac00]

@i hate anime I've seen low but I think going ballistic over weeb games is the new bottom of the barrel

[@brainstorm623]

"The invention of creativity occurred in 1988 when Robert Zemeckis directed Who Framed Roger Rabbit" Truer words have never been said by a ponce on the internet.

[@arkuos8361]

I love that "Calculus" is at the top of the chart for the General part of the offensiveness chart

[@tukavaraandco7820]

Yeah, I agree fuck Calculus.

[@NoConsequenc3]

Read his books, they're hilarious and actually well done. He reads them himself if you go the audible route. Highly recommend it.

[@kristofb5013]

5:23 "unfortunately he has bred" Wait. Has Yahtzee sired progeny? Does he have a child and heir now?

[@E1craZ4life]

Yes, the Croshaw name has been passed to a new generation.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

If her/his name isn't Negative Punctuation, I'll be disappointed.

[@bigbruno2232]

Yup his wife now has a child.

[@madprophet6891]

@@bigbruno2232 Don't worry, it's not really his.

[@ampeyro]

Plot twist: He vents all his frustration and rage on the internet and in his personal life he is disgustingly sweet and corny. (probably not but makes for a good story)

[@Fandirek]

3:35 "Is a man not entitled to the plip of his plop" made me laugh so hard I lost track on the rest of the video and had to rewatch it.

[@LaLloronaVT]

Anytime he uses British slang it just makes me so happy

[@armorfrogentertainment]

A man is entitled to the plip of his plop. He is not, however, entitled to take the plips of his employees' plops while paying them only a fraction of the value of a plip.

[@KeithFraser82]

@@armorfrogentertainment But is a marklar entitled to the marklar of his marklar?

[@Mick0Mania]

This was essentially my concern as I grew older. I loved little big planet, and dreamed of building the best levels ever, but why bother committing to that when I can spend the same energy and effort learning industry standard creative tools that will directly carry on to career opportunities. This issue pops up anytime a game with creative tools appear. I felt the same way about Wolfire game's Overgrowth and it's creative tools. They tend to hit that uncanny valley where the tools are just complex enough that it takes too much effort to justify mastering them rather then investing the same time and effort on actual creative tools. The one saving grace of Dreams is that they intended the process to be collaborative. So one person can just play to create music on their off time, another one can create assets, and another one can just code everything in in their spare time. But still, I'd never say "I wanna model something in Dreams" in my spare time when I can learn Blender or Maya.

[@TheGeekRex]

This is exactly why I can't play anything like LBP or Minecraft or the like anymore. As soon as I realized as a kid that I could make my own games that can do ANYTHING I want just by writing some magic words, I couldn't go back to the relatively clunky, slow-paced game builders. I just found myself begging for programming again.

[@kerricaine]

admittedly, i think the building tools can be a great way for people to get a basic understanding of programming and development. i remember as a kid playing age of empires level builder, and being introduced to how flags, "if/and/or" and other things like that worked.

[@TheD736]

When I was young I used StarEdit, a starcraft 1 map editor. It’s pretty complex but it was accessible enough for me. To me saying “Creativity games are useless because you could just use actual programming” is like saying “Why use an etch-a-sketch when you could use a pencil and ruler”. Maybe it’s not a matter of making some profound fucking piece of art. Creativity doesn’t revolve around what skills are useful or not. Unfortunately dreams has a centralized server and someday all that art will inevitably die, but my point is that learning to use a tool in a creative way is just as much a fun time as it is a way to stretch the way you see games or reality, and can absolutely be gateway into other things.

[@Deliveredmean42]

What funny about that, others will, in fact, do it in Dreams. Dreams like other limited game/dev tool product like Net Yaroze did gave you an idea on how game dev works and get their ideas going just as effectively or even more so than big name game engine. Some people who will try Dreams may never achieve greatness like many things in life, but like some of the games and showcases in dreams, those who do take the step and be consistent in their work it gave people the opportunity what be creative. Heck, if anything, I heard Media Molecule are hiring those people who made impressive games, designs and the likes. Heck, who can't say those games people had created in Dreams become actual products in the future? Sure, it can get complex, but don't underestimate people's capabilities. There will be poeple that WILL use every single tools available. They manage to recreate so closely to some games from the past, and even create new ones in a span of weeks to even a year (early adopters).

[@gungriffon220]

Truth be told, there's not many ACTUAL level design toolsets out there, and those that exist are for incredibly ancient games or very specific indie ventures. Level design has become almost exclusively a 3D Modeller's job, and building things has a big tendency towards "well I can't make this pretty or functional in Unreal/Unity, time to import into Blender and do slow iterative tests for weeks on end" It's kind of astounding how few serious tools are developed for this particularly important step of the process, and how much import-export-reimport has to happen to get anything done. Though I definitely agree that I way prefer to model and animate in a real program than do this sort of thing. It's just not worth it unless you can export it out and use it as a prototype/block-out.

[@olotocolo]

Fun fact: Who framed Roger Rabbit is based on a book. And is PG-friendly version of it. So it kinda crumbles as a totem to creativity just like roger does at the end of the book

[@Eight-Bit-Kit]

Gamers: "where are all the new ideas, the new ip?" Mm: "here's Dreams, you can create anything you can think of!" Gamers: "I done a Sonic"

[@gyga100]

Well making a 3D sonic game is like a rubix cube ,everyone is curious how to solve it,but few people will actually make it....

[@hoodedman6579]

@@gyga100 I've only ever played one good 3D Sonic fangame, and it was Sonic Robo Blast 2, a game made in Doom's engine of all fucking things.

[@barb1974]

@@hoodedman6579 This one guy is remaking Sonic Adventure in Dreams and it looks really good so far.

[@junjiexie]

The trick is to realize that Gamers1 and Gamers2 are different people speaking at different times.

[@psychospeech6189]

there is a guy that is making a avatar game

[@adam-vm3zj]

"Have you tried feeding them cornflakes" Now that's a deep rabbithole! "Dr. Kellogg introduced Kellogg's Corn Flakes in hopes that it would reduce dyspepsia and, in accordance with the practices of the Seventh-day Adventists, masturbation and excessive sexual intercourse. "

[@kopperhed4472]

I too appreciated this bit of high-brow humour.

[@G33KST4R]

thats why I jerk off into my bowl of corn flakes before I eat them.

[@typacsk]

I learned that from QI! (Using the word "learned" very loosely.)

[@Athrun82]

I learned that from "You don't know Jack!" and i was really confused when this answer was the right one.

[@DanaTheLateBloomingFruitLoop]

I could google what dyspepsia means but I'm gonna assume it means you don't like pepsi.

[@sabre0smile]

The details of the furry analogies worry me slightly.

[@animorph17]

The accurate details you mean.

[@thesuperpierre59]

Knowing your enemy is the first step to defend yourself against it !

[@aiden4917]

@@thesuperpierre59 didn't you hear the rest? we always win because we've got all the stamina 😈🤣

[@rotz394]

@@aiden4917 Which is why I'm preparing to use movie review sites as my social media platform of choice. Why the fuck would someone upload porn on IMDB?

[@bionicdragon5]

@@thesuperpierre59 We are born of the furries, made men by the furries, undone by the furries. Fear the furry fandom. By the gods, fear it, Aldo.

[@wizzenberry]

“There are much easier ways” Looks at the collision in death stranding No

[@IntellectualBA001]

The thought occurs: this may be the perfect way for Yahtzee to realize "Mankind Has Yet To Recognize My Genius"

[@jkorok6357]

5:16 I am glad that the guy that kept commenting "Knowing the some day Yahtzee will one day review Huniepop. It fills me with determination." Got his acknowledgment. It takes serious dedication to write that each week. Where is he anyways?

[@bradley4615]

The “they might as well just learn how to code” bit had big ‘why does school teach us stuff we’ll never use’ energy

[@Deliveredmean42]

What bothers me about that, it really insulting when not everyone can do that. Everyone is best in something, so having Dreams being capable to collaborate between other people with coding, arts, animation, sounds, etc is a blessing in disguise.

[@bradley4615]

@@Deliveredmean42 He also very deliberately ignores that Dreams can appeal to people who don't know they want to learn how to code, or have never been placed in a situation where they're exposed to the kind of thinking you need to be good at it. When I was 13 I didn't *want* to 'learn to code', I wanted to 'make a game'. And Little Big Planet 2 let me do that, while giving me a cursory understanding of Logic so when I started to code proper I had a leg up. Dreams is trying to do the same to current 13 year olds. And trying to act like giving people like that the platform they want is a bad thing is Gatekeeping of the *highest* degree.

[@Rot_Soft]

@@bradley4615 It has very heavy "kid who did a game Dev course and now scoffs at anyone who doesn't code their own engine whilst never actually making anything good." These people act as if Dreams is totally separate from "Real" game Dev, people have literally already been offered jobs because of their Dreams portfolio with 0 knowledge of other software.

[@derrickmelton5844]

@@Rot_Soft I didn't get that takeaway at all. It sounded more like the criticism is that you are basically coding, making assets, etc in a way that is harder than doing it the traditional way...so why learn to use an inferior tool that ends up being limiting when you can just bite the bullet and learn the ools which are streamlined and industry standards. Like end of the day the amount of time and effort spent in dreams to make something would yield more doing it in Unity or GMS2...meaning the only pro is the collaboration features which itself can be overcome by actually becoming a part of a community of developers, designers, etc making it not even as strong of a selling point as some may initially believe.

[@SirJokerMcDuff]

@@Rot_Soft That sounds decently unbelievable. Anything to back that up, or is it one of those "I know a guy who knows a guy who.... a guy that got a job after his Dreams levels were the greatest thing since sliced bread"?

[@makotoplush9776]

I remember first seeing the trailer for LittleBigPlanet 2 and I was like "Wow I can make all this?" 5 years later, I still have no idea how logic tools work

[@hand13932]

Cosmo the blue peashooter I’ve got a good 4K hours in the game and I still have no idea

[@AGC915]

Idk, I figured it out pretty fast in LBP but dreams is a whole different story. With LittleBigPlanet atleast you have ground to work on (A playable character and an easy to manage menu) thus it inspired me to figure out how to work things. Dreams is different though, it doesn't make me want to learn it because the controls are janky at best and you start off with essentially an empty void and terrible movement.

[@farmzombie]

I'm genuinely impressed that Yatzhee knows Princess Sally's last name.

[@hoodedman6579]

Someone read the Sonic CD manual. If you think that makes no sense, you haven't read the Sonic CD manual.

[@Worgen33]

@@hoodedman6579 I thought Sally was just in that one cartoon series that was pretty good but on at a really stupid time so I only saw like 3 episodes of it.

[@frostryu]

@@Worgen33 She was also in the Archie Sonic Comics, which were a not quite continuation of the afore mentioned cartoon. Except she kicked in more doors in the comic.

[@farmzombie]

@@hoodedman6579 I guess somebody thought Amy Rose was Princess Sally. Weird.

[@robertlinke2666]

i mean lets be honest, he probably watched satam when he was younger.

[@justingreenland7399]

Was not expecting so many insults towards the Sonic the hedgehog fanbase, but it somehow feels completely appropriate for a video about Dreams.

[@queermelancholy1562]

So kids, metaphor of this story is sex sells literally everything. Dreams? Sex sells that. Frustration? Sex sells that too. Welcome to life!

[@YourCrazyOverlord]

This is now among the best in the long catalog of the ZP canon. Well done indeed.

[@pamdemonia]

Watching these is like eating potato chips; you try to eat just one and the next thing you know it's 1:30 am on a work night and there is greasy salt all over your face!

[@reillyobrien4372]

1:57 I had to pause and laugh at Yhatzee putting calculous at the top of the plying swear matrix

[@TehKorwinMikke]

"Haha, DAE also laugh at the funniness of mathematics being bad? xD"

[@BugsyFoga]

"Sweet Dreams are made of these "

[@Ash0512]

Nathaniel Foga who am I to disagree?

[@Megaspartan23]

who am i to disagree

[@nannobot1280]

@@Megaspartan23 i travel the world and the seven seas

[@AlexandreSantos-yv2tj]

@@nannobot1280 everybody is looking for something

[@scoutshellby7226]

@@AlexandreSantos-yv2tj some of them want to use you

[@donniedorko3336]

"Smarter and more dedicated people than you have tried to hold back the masturbators..." Magnificent

[@dubstepbeecorsi6892]

The Horny always prevails Even people who try winning NNN can never win because even if they do they're just masterbaiting their egos

[@circuitboardsushi]

The last time I was this early, Jessica Rabit taught me that I like girls.

[@melnewdemon4873]

Last time I was this early, Jessica rabbit made me realize I was a furry

[@theBraxil]

@@melnewdemon4873 Jessica rabbit is a cartoon human.

[@melnewdemon4873]

@@theBraxil R/whooosh

[@Ghonosyphlaids]

@@melnewdemon4873 Your joke was actually kinda obtuse

[@Dracorex13]

I'm too young for that. My awakening was Lola Bunny.

[@joelverkaik]

I hope the offensiveness matrix gets as much mileage as the expectations matrix and PC Gaming Master Race

[@tukavaraandco7820]

Joel Verkaik hopefully less than the PC Gaming Master Race, that one is so prolific that it makes me want to bash in my knees with a crowbar.

[@90maducc]

Second Life. Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a decade.

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

Imagine Yahtzee pulling a fast one and making April fools look like a Doom Eternal review and it’s just animal crossing. Or the other way around perhaps

[@juniorjunior5884]

I mean he did say Animal Crossing is evil, so I can see that working.

[@Mernom]

Remember the fake Duke Nukem review?

[@thereorayshow]

I've watched well over 100 episodes of ZP. This is by far one of the best I've seen. Keep up the splendid work.

[@igorthelight]

1:57 - Swear Matrix A very useful thing ;-)

[@quiettimegaming3642]

2:16 It’s actually like give someone a spade and bucket, lecturing them on the history of industrialized strip-mining... *then asking them to dig them a quarry, to which Media Molecule owns all the rights to, which they will used to entice other poor simpletons to also dig quarries with the hopes of unearthing a pretty rock that they’ll never own, and will only be highlighted to further perpetuate the cycle.* I still have a good time with Dreams though, lol.

[@aiden4917]

I can't find any source for the now we own whatever you make on here thing could you link me something for it?

[@quiettimegaming3642]

DR Death the wolf it’s in the terms and service agreement when you first start the game.

[@aiden4917]

@@quiettimegaming3642 the one that flys off fast?

[@aiden4917]

@@quiettimegaming3642 i can't find it I've searched everywhere for hours.

[@slambangaction]

4:29 Alright Yahtzee, that's too much. You must now officially change the title of your show.

[@oomfoof7294]

I am once again at that point where I have watched so many Zero Punctuations, that Yahtzee's has taken over mine as the voice that relays my thoughts in my head.

[@AltimeterAlligator]

Well, yes! Dreams is a fancy intro to coding (and game design, 3d modeling, music writing, etc.). Its USP, in my opinion, is the extremely efficient collaboration-remix system. If a creation has remix permissions toggled, anyone can peer into the inner workings of that creation, change whatever they want, and re-release it as their own thing, while automatically giving front-cover attribution to the original -- as well as the original's constituent parts.

[@daveyishere55]

It's been a while since I laugh this hard with a ZP episode

[@dakotamcintire7419]

That lesser known plagie of egypt bit during the end credits absolutely destroyed me XD theres a reason I watch a marathon of these videos every time before I have to write a critical review paper for school.

[@patrickrowles5747]

I've put away the best part of a bottle of very nice red wine in the last hour or so, so bear that in mind. However, I feel compelled to say that, on days when I think of ending it all, I remind myself that (a) my daughter still needs me, and (b) I'd never get to watch another Zero Punctuation. Last week we had "like a pistol shrimp taking a course in native African languages", and this week we get, "like cleaning a bathroom floor with the eyelashes of a horse". I'm trying to think of anything else that has been this consistently funny, engrossing, and entertaining for this long, and...no, I've got nothing. Sincere thanks to you, Yahtzee. In a small but very important way, you make the world a better place.

[@ralgore]

2:27 Umm...the "Sharks with lasers" have been swapped out with "Dolphins with Fleshlights" !?!

[@DemonicEngineer]

"Yahtzee, do you have Dreams?" Of course I have dreams. I dream of the day you stop breaking into my house to ask me stupid questions; I dream of finding a commercial-grade air freshener that covers the smell from the basement. "No, I mean, do you have Dreams on the PS4, the new game - well, game-tangent creativity experience - by the people who made LittleBigPlanet, who appear to be trying to pull off the same scam where they get young creatives to pay to make their content for them? Dreams is the next logical step from LittleBigPlanet in that instead of just making levels for a slightly twee platformer, you can now make entire slightly twee games from the ground up with a suite of inbuilt art, animation, and coding tools." I assume people have been asking me to cover this thing partly because I'm an established hobbyist game designer currently doing a side series in which I pledge to make twelve games in twelve months the way a small child goes, "Hey, everyone, look at me!" just before they crack themselves in the eye with a rock, but partly, I suspect, because a lot of people started up Dreams, watched the intro sequence, and then said, "Someone really needs to piss all over this." So that's what I'm going to do, Media Molecule; I'm going to piss all over your Dreams. And if you called it that to make me feel bad about pissing all over it, then you obviously don't know me very well. The intro and tutorial dialogue has the tone of a kindergarten teacher handing out gold stars to everyone for all being equally special. "Welcome to a magical universe of your very own, where you can realize your wildest imaginings, as long as they're slightly twee!" Bitch, I can realize my wildest imaginings with a blank wall and a handful of shit! You didn't invent creativity; the invention of creativity occurred in 1988 when Robert Zemeckis directed Who Framed Roger Rabbit, and you don't look much like Robert Zemeckis. The next step in our creativity journey is to play the example game, a game about a broody jazz musician going through a symbolic odyssey of self-doubt after someone mildly criticizes him, which makes me think he should hang out with Kay from Sea of Solitude so they can have fun getting the fuck over themselves together. But because it's a showcase, it has to contrivedly switch between noir adventure and cartoon platformer and various other setpieces and musical numbers, which makes it a bit of a tonal dog's breakfast, especially when the protagonist uses the word "shit" at one point, which I took special note of, because it was quite a lurch for the established family-friendly vibe. Don't tell me "shit"'s been downgraded; I hate having to update my swear matrix. I guess it doesn't matter, since the sample game's only purpose is to say, "Hey, we made this in Dreams, and so could you!" Yes, Media Molecule, I suppose I could, just as soon as I, too, have access to a studio full of industry-standard professionals and pay them all a salary, but considering you expect me to release it for free on your network, I might prefer to reserve my cash for something with a better return of investment, like heroin. So it's not exactly inspiring; it's like giving someone a bucket and spade and then lecturing them on the history of industrialized strip mining. I went through some tutorials and fair's fair, it is an extensive suite of 3D art tools and drag-and-drop coding systems that could potentially realize a lot of complex visions. But the big question that I keep coming back to is, why bother when I could just do all this on PC with a mouse and keyboard, rather than having to relearn basic drag-and-drop skills with a PS4 controller like a man clumsily attempting to remove Tinker Bell's bra? "Oh, Yahtzee, you crumbly old gaming insider, you've got it all wrong! Of course it's not trying to compete with commercial game creation tools; it's a creativity toy for the kiddywinks to get their coding feet wet in between naps and demands for McDonald's." See, I just think it's too complex for that. You're talking about it being like playing with Lego; I say it's more like playing with Lego with a pair of remote-controlled animatronic hands with a 200-page operators' manual. Once these drag-and-drop engines go past a certain level of depth, I feel like they can't be that much easier than just learning to code, as I struggle to memorize a new language of icons and seriously chafe Tinker Bell's nipples trying to line up a cuboid. I feel like making a game in Dreams would be like cleaning a bathroom floor with the eyelashes of a horse: impressive, yes, but there were much easier ways. And you'll have very little use for all that horse-wrangling expertise you had to learn if you want to move into cleaning bathroom floors on a professional level, even more so after Sony inevitably decides it can't be bothered to support clean bathroom floors anymore and turns the servers off, sending everyone's hard work right down the bathroom drain. Yes, I have completely lost the fucking thread of this metaphor. But what of playing the games? What of being the societal parasite in the Objectivist utopia that is Dreams? The content is arranged like the layers of a trifle made by dementia patients: it starts at the top with the cream, mostly Media Molecule's example games made, as discussed above, by professionals being paid money. Then under that, the custard, the hand-picked smattering of decently-playable games made by earnest creatives, presumably mostly bedridden and with nothing else to do all day but count the ceiling tiles. And then under that comes everything else, a bottomless ocean of ranch dressing and polystyrene, mostly games consisting of two buildings plonked on an empty field and released as "super early pre-alpha test demo for the epic open world sandbox action RPG I'm totally going to make after I break both my legs and the ceiling tiles lose their allure", about fifty percent of which feature Sonic the Hedgehog. But that's all to be expected, and no reason to be discouraging; I made sure to leave a like on the small number of games that I felt got into the right spirit of things, offering nice, straightforward gameplay loops, occasionally even original ones. And as I looked around at the colorful menus and the careful curation algorithms at work, I found myself thinking, "You know, it'll be a real shame when this all gets taken over by perverts." These things always are, Media Molecule; the Sonic the Hedgehog fans are the warning sign. Now, Sonic fans aren't necessarily perverts; basketball players aren't necessarily tall, but it fucking helps! Sooner or later, they bring in that one character who's a bat with tits, and the furries have got a foot in your door. Remember Second Life? Once a lovely, wholesome attempt at a community-created online world of imagination, now just zebra dicks and yiff piles as far as the eye can see. The earnest creators will all return or graduate to more efficient systems once the novelty wears off, and then all your fancy 3D art tools are so much fantasy penis-shaping equipment. What are you going to do, screen all incoming content for the rest of your fucking life? Smarter and more dedicated people than you have tried to hold back the masturbators, and the masturbators always win, probably 'cos they've all the stamina. See, this happy-clappy "everyone's special" approach just isn't preparing the kiddywinks for the realities of life as a creative: stress, rejection letters, audience indifference, the frustration when someone makes twice as much money as you just from drawing nipples on Princess Sally Acorn.

[@vincevileborne]

“Impressive” - ***Shao Kahn voice***

[@nannobot1280]

Just why

[@DemonicEngineer]

@@nannobot1280 BECAUSE I CAN!!

[@DemonicEngineer]

@@nannobot1280 And because it's 100 Times better than saying "first"

[@lonelymascot]

honestly im more impressed than anything else, you wouldnt happen to be the flash would you?

[@hiiambarney4489]

I was surprised he knew the full name of Sally from the Sonic comics...

[@elberethgilthoniel1397]

"Unfortunately he has bred." Whats unfortunate about that? We're delighted that a little Yahtzee has been born. Mazeltov!

[@E1craZ4life]

Elbereth Gilthoniel It’s a reference to his Amy review.

[@jakegriffith6871]

As Yahtzee points out, the inevitable unplugging of the servers really does give all the work you put into this a limited shelf life. Especially if they don't port this to the PS5. A lot of games just die now from server support being removed.

[@Rot_Soft]

Every level created within LBP1 is still accessible, 12 years later.

[@jakegriffith6871]

@AMQ__SA If their company takes a downturn, that's not going to be the case.

[@CP-uw4ts]

@@jakegriffith6871 from what they've said it's not flying off the shelves. If so what can Sony expect when they've set a standard for photorealistic videogames? Because that is very much a reason people prefer Sony exclusives.

[@jakegriffith6871]

@@CP-uw4ts Good point

[@geardog24]

One man's dreams are another man's nightmares.

[@NIHIL_EGO]

Can relate, one night HypnosCorp mixed-up the dream I should had have with another who was for someone else. Cue me surrounded by half naked women and a beer ocean. Though I took it better than the guy who received my dream, he got traumatized and had to go to mental ward for 2 months.

[@angeldeb82]

LOLed at the mice imp cluster. Also LOLed at the two kid imps jumping for joy near the game, each going "Yaaay!", until one on the left sleeps in the water and the other on the right says, "Aah, me noggies!" XD BTW, congrats on having your kid, Yahtzee! :D

[@Dany21251]

My favorite Dreams games is probably "Wario Dies in a Car Accident"

The way I see it Dreams has all the tools in one on a console no less (not everyone has a PC. Also is has a distribution front that hopefully distracts people from posting their first effort in Unreal on Steam.

[@igorthelight]

To post something on Steam you have to pay 100$. With Epic Games it's even harder - you have to make a descent game! So it will help but just a little :-)

[@thesnowboundcabin]

It should not surprise me that you know the word "yiff."

[@YukonHexsun]

To be fair if you've spent the amount of time he has on the internet, I'm not sure how the hell you could NOT learn that word. And by "the internet" we all know what I mean. Communities, not just fuckin Wikipedia and Facebook.

[@84warhead]

@@YukonHexsun I admittedly learned the word from Watch_Dogs when reading the notes on a random NPC. When looking at random street NPCs you get a few notes on that NPC. This one said that he liked yiff. I then looked up what that was because I never saw the word before. I then had a lot of regrets.

[@YukonHexsun]

@@84warhead "Likes Yiff". I guess you could word it that way but isn't that like saying "Likes Fuck". Not likes TO fuck just... "I LIKE FUCK." Fair enough I guess.

[@TheKrossRoads]

@@YukonHexsun Yiff is specifying a specific kind of fucking, so it makes more sense to translate it as "Likes furry fucking". Which would make a lot more sense in context. It's the same as saying "Likes anal" or "Likes oral".

[@ItsProjectGenesis]

It's odd that people can't create content in Dreams because it's fun.. Sure you have Blender, FL Studio, Unity, but yet again, people enjoy the social media aspect, of simply making something, sharing it and getting instant feedback and love from a community. I don't create content at all, I just like playing thanks to Dreams I can do that, people often miss the massive point of Dreams because it's so big and ambitious that if you were to look at it quick you'd simply think "this is just a game engine" but it's not just that, most people here probably didn't even know it had a complex music program built inside of it, most people here probably don't know you can share assets, voices, music, etc all with a click of a button and collaborate with anyone with the community, ofc you wouldn't know. It's too massive but based on this video you'd think it's pointless, not bashing the video, I recognize that this is his persona on the channel, the GradeAUnderA of video game reviews

[@matthayward7889]

Definitely the hardest I’ve laughed at a ZP episode in awhile 😂

[@cyndrasil3008]

Came to watch this again since Dreams got tossed up for free as a PS+ monthly game

[@2CPhoenix]

And now a week later it’s biggest selling point is all of the rip offs it offers

[@spongebobfan78]

@@switchplayer1016 I subconsiously and ironically only read the last sentence in Yahtzee's voice.

[@luigimaster111]

That Fallout 4 recreation kinda blew my mind.

[@AlexMartinez-cu5bw]

Mainly that PT Demo recreation someone made.

[@theharvardyard2356]

@@switchplayer1016 People are making fantastic original things, but they don't get shared as much because the don't immediately capture attention the way a ripoff does. Just check out IGN's video on the great original projects being made so far.

[@Dw7freak]

I didn't realize that "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" came out in '88. It was one of my favorite movies growing up.

[@nemosenpai]

"unfortunately he has bred" lmaooooo

[@chris7372]

"Yiff piles" oh boy Yahtzee that's all you need to say!

[@chris7372]

@RedBlue Hewesy detected my empewow OwO

[@The_Foxxo]

@@chris7372 Oi mate , do you got a licence for that "OwO"

[@chris7372]

@@The_Foxxo Oy mayte, ye fookin wankah, ye got a loisence for dat bad dragon innit.

[@lavetissene339]

I will defenestrate both of you

[@CorneliusCob]

3:22 you know, just like they did with Littlebigplanet

[@michelvanderlinden8363]

"unfortunately he has bred". Congrats yahtzee!

[@blackdragonxtra]

You know its a good one when Yahtzee cracks you up less than 20 seconds in

[@MalfunctionWhocares]

I don't know what kind of Second Life you've seen, but every time I've looked at the game in any way, shape, or form, it was just filled with "sexy" human models being controlled by egotistical people that think the game is real life. Honestly wish I could've seen the supposed furry outbreak so that the game had at least SOMETHING interesting going on.

[@tahunuva4254]

Dreams - aka Unity Lite But for shitposting instead of 8-bit 2d platformers.

[@igorthelight]

@@WilTheNyanCharmander You can also create some good games with that! (Ori and the Blind Forest) But that is long and boring :-)

[@Rot_Soft]

@@igorthelight You can create good games with Dreams.

[@igorthelight]

@@Rot_Soft Of course you can! :-) It's just a tool. Someone has to know how to use it correctly.

[@noctemcat_]

@@Rot_Soft tbh if I had a choice between making a good game in dreams and making a good game in unity, I would choose unity

[@Rot_Soft]

@@noctemcat_ Obviously. But it's not a 1:1 choice. Also you can't make a game with Unity. You make a game with Unity + a coding language + Blender/Maya + a DAW; all with different controls and interfaces. Dreams has it all.

[@TheDigitalWeeb]

I saw that "Will Save the Galaxy for Food" reference when you put calculus as an offensive swear

[@DeezNuts-bg2qp]

The hunniepop reference made me realize that I kinda unironically want the hunniepop girls in the ZP style.

[@AndrewPetersonGameDev]

3:22 This aged as planned

[@FlakkerDPS]

i find incredible that he didn't mention the tax evasion simulators or the "peter griffin kills sans" shorts

[@professionalahegao6475]

Tax evasion simulators.. xD , What even is the game play of that?

[@KeithFraser82]

@@professionalahegao6475 You have to drag and drop all your money to the Cayman Islands?

[@FlakkerDPS]

@@professionalahegao6475 run from the police as yoshi

[@Nimble_Mimble]

I really feel like you got a great night's rest before scripting this one. It was refreshing (can't explain it really)

[@GaiaDblade]

This explains why Minecraft was so successful used as a creativity toy. It's simple enough that it fits snug into the gap between 'too hard to learn' and 'too simple to do much'

[@fishpop]

5:22 "Unfortunately he has bred" I'm not sure how to interpret that statement...

[@DemonKingMidas]

5:22 I just rewatched the “Amy” episode yesterday, so this was weird.

[@AGrayPhantom]

"Unfortunately he has bred." Yahtzee is a dad now? Congratulations!

[@matesafranka6110]

I am only here to loudly and proudly declare that I understood the Kellogg reference at 5:03. I will now accept your praise and adulation.

[@Balsiefen]

2:17 But I _like_ Factorio.

[@ironraptorstudios]

*looks at his bank account from making furry art* I mean... you ain't wrong....

[@WeeklyMusicalShitposts]

5:16 HE ACKNOWLEDGED IT

[@nicholasdonald6673]

"Unfortunately he has bred" was the tagline above his name.. does that mean Yahtzee has a child!?!?!

[@paradoxacres1063]

5:16 Knowing that Yahtzee will one day review *HuniePop 2* it fills me with determination!

[@paulovinasrocha6166]

Thanks for reinstating why meme humor has gone down hill because of people like you.

[@funx24X7]

To be fair some of those nipple-drawers are actually quite talented. Not that I would know.

[@igorthelight]

;-)

[@0seraphic]

Never in my life would I have thought I'd see yahtzee make a reference to Kellogg pushing circumcision to prevent masturbation

[@siechamontillado]

0:34 Saul Goodman wants to know where you keep that figurine.

[@CyberLink70]

How does he even know who Princess Sally Acorn is?!

[@robertlinke2666]

i think he wathed satam when he was younger.

[@BJWeNeedUDefendingUsWithZeMG42]

I dream of the day that I wake up one morning and not want to embrace the sweet release of death...

[@mr.e2239]

Okay stop thinking your clever by quoting Nietzsche Side note: if your not quoting Nietzsche it’s still unoriginal regardless Side side note: also if you see the obvious unoriginal nature of my comment please ignore it.

[@IamaPERSON]

@@mr.e2239 well if you wanted us to ignore your comment, why didn't you just wait until a few other people commented?

[@edwardhernandez6668]

Is that your bit? Having a pic that is part of Yahtzees lingo and mimicking what he may say? Cause it's pathetic, at best you're a fan boy cosplaying as someone as creative as him. It's shit.

[@ichigo9171]

The heroine bit really got me badly. Was laughing nearly the rest of the video from that alone.

[@MungkaeX]

I really need to start using “calculus” when I feel the need to swear.

[@MungkaeX]

Dahn I actually just picked that one up the other day. Looking forward to reading it.

[@Mulch4321]

Huniepop review when

[@RusStarik]

Yiff piles, eh? Seems like this game worth the purchase after all.

[@talltroll7092]

You seem like a nascent Space Station 13 player (praise be to our Ugandan overlord)

[@SurrealKeenan]

Was not expecting a kellogg reference

[@johntibz]

Oh christ that end gag. 8 years in the making!

[@JP_Crimson]

Quick question? Can it play Doom?

[@igorthelight]

Why not? :-)

[@draconomorphus413]

I'd be surprised if it couldn't.

[@IntellectualBA001]

Grabbing this via PS+ today. Oof.

[@powerhousejp]

Whoa, I haven't thought about Princess Sally since the last millennium. Thanks for that.