We Need To Talk About This Roadmap | CotC GL

[@DreamtOf]

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[@Vayank123]

EOS confirmed for Square Enix. However game is still alive and transferred to NetEase. And side solistia is confirmed.

[@cotc_grind1059]

I couldn't agree more. EoS seems extremely unlikely but 3 months of stagnation is very disappointing.

[@RemedyElixir]

A month ago SQEX yearly earnings report was an ominous sign based on their statements of focusing only on "high quality games", ergo "we're going to gut everything"

[@NomNomPandaXD]

I think it's more on the table now if more than half of the players in EN stop spending after this roadmap. It's surprisingly expensive to localize a gacha game - think of how often EN/GL servers close before JP servers. The West is less spend-happy for gacha games. Not to mention localization costs. It would be around 1 million a year for a team of 15 if they're only paying an average of 66,666 USD salary for each member of the team. Depending on where the team is located, this could be either barely enough to survive (we know Dan and Limit live in LA and they are both social media managers - they can't be living off of anything less than 50K a year unless they are working multiple jobs) or a reasonable wage. If Dan and Limit aren't the only ones in LA, 66K USD salary an uncompetitive and unlikely salary for the coders, translators, and testers that are required for a game like CoTC. The team is probably even smaller - maybe 2-3 coders and 1 other technical engineer. Maybe 1-2 translators. 2 social media managers. So maybe around 400K~600K for the EN localization team's salaries alone. Take at least 15% off the google/IOS cuts from the revenue. I think if revenue monthly drops below 80K for a couple consecutive months, COTC is in trouble. This outcome is definitely possible if people stop spending because they've lost faith in the EN server.

[@oorbender89]

Thank you for making this video, we need to try and force some change to happen

[@FuryKingW]

Thank you for putting my fears to rest.

[@Fundinator]

Hopefully they will announce some changes to the road map during the 2nd anni live stream.

[@Piyamakarro]

Thanks for the section on EOS. The doomposting was getting to me, particularly since 3.0 isn't even on this map in the first place. But I have no frame of reference for other gacha lifespans, so it's good to know that this isn't as indicative of EoS as the clamor makes it out to be. I will continue to support this game under the assumption 3.0 is at least on the horizon, but I share the same worries about our players.

[@austinbread]

Great video, appreciate you and other members of the community for spearheading this effort

[@jonathancook1731]

What sucks is that passes renewed yesterday. I wouldn’t have renewed my passes if I knew we were only getting two story updates for four months. I get this isn’t EOS but when there is nothing to do in game there isn’t anything to play.

[@CaWalrusJr]

Really, the ONLY that makes no sense that they still keep epilogue in TWO parts, while the only way we 'catch up' with other servers is they combine the two parts chapters into one to release in EN server.

[@jackking1900]

I agree that EoS doesn’t make sense for EN, but if we’re not facing a shutdown, then why are they waiting so long? I can’t think of a single good reason for such a long delay. In any case, I pray that you’re right. This is one of my favorite games of all time and if it were to die, a part of me would die along with it.

[@sarge55555550000000]

We were already about 15 months behind before this roadmap. Now we are going to be 18 months behind and thats just stupid sad. For reference, nier part 2 came out in feburary and if anyone thinks we are getting that in feburary thats too funny. Lol. I really hope our pacing gets fixed.

[@DarkJ1425]

Maybe what they are thinking is to release the Caits banners early to EN as opposed to what happened in JP since they were our homies since day one So we can pull them in the current continent, finish the unfinished business then whenever Solistia releases they will come with us. I hope that’s what it is.

[@DreamtOf]

Even then, those units are significantly gimped without TPs/6* :( So its like, pull them early gimped, just for them to rerun later when they release the 6* and you don't have to waste materials? So its like even the most logical back up plan isn't really a good one :/

[@DarkJ1425]

@@DreamtOf I wonder did they ever updated/ changed the roadmap in span of weeks? Or was every roadmap released set on stone until the next one?

[@DreamtOf]

@@DarkJ1425 They have followed them in the past, but we didn't ever really give them push back until this one. The images say they are subject to change though.

[@edcaous]

Rique could use a full rework, haha..

[@edcaous]

Great video man. Especially 10:40 onwards.

[@esterification1996]

Now, TW exceeded GL, why does GL Dev. team plan like this? And TP system?

[@misuferenczi9114]

It should have been august. If it was September I'd be bummed for sure cuz a whole month of no new characters. But THIS. Unacceptable. Completely dillusional decision by some japanase guy at Squre HQ

[@Nooflear]

Thanks for the video dreamer

[@eddsoto4233]

Man I need a break lol, I got so many bosses to try and catch up on.

[@astral4227]

They are saying square enix EN octopath team got demoted some of them that could explain why not newer stuff is coming

[@michaelplourde8352]

The scary part is i that i think that they planning Side solistia for the 2.5 anniversary.

[@benjaminwinkler1035]

So when exactly can I pull all my rubies on Sazantos? 17.7 or 24.7 can't quite figure it out on the roadmap

[@DreamtOf]

The 24th of July

[@katzezouk]

I put a comment in facebook. Thanks for the info.

[@komania7789]

Lots of people hate it and scared its Ending really soon, En is probably will be letting an EOS notices

[@turntapeover5749]

Have you ever played SE gachas? If you did, you'd know they're not known for giving warnings. In fact, they're gonna milk it until last second.

[@LunaT-u8v]

I haven't missed a day in this game for over a year, but I don't know if I'm going to keep remembering to login, click a few buttons, and close the game for 3+ months of absolutely nothing. It doesn't make sense to me from a business standpoint to stagnate the game so much, and it's absolutely going to cost them players. I've never joined the EoS discussion until now, but this time it's either that, or it's fire-worthy incompetence. There's no way the revenue stream for EN does anything but drop significantly over these upcoming months with or without an EoS. That roadmap alone is going to result in decreased spending for the upcoming releases. I think we're going to get a lot of MT re-runs of the MTs that haven't be re-run yet for filler, which has a niche for people who missed an MT they want, but that's about it. You also summed up exactly why I skipped units like Elrica. She was a definite pull for me for months, but then so much time passed before she finally showed up that I didn't think she was worth the pull anymore. After Odio-O and Signa/Sazantos, I'll still have at absolute minimum over 10k rubies left, with nothing to pull for 3 months. So if the game continues, then by the time we get anywhere, I'll probably be over 20k again.

[@Vayank123]

Game is back. It now has side solistia.

[@PrimismyEX]

🙏

[@mofongoplaya2135]

I think they gonna come up with something as a surprised. Or, I also believe is, they doing this on purpose so new players or currently players have a little extra time to can catch up with the game.

[@Darkluster3]

The pacing for EN went through some ups and downs. When the game started out we were getting new travelers every week and the banners had 200 pity, that was unenjoyably for a lot of people. Later from the beginning of last year until the BoA chapters they had a 100 pity for the travelers at 4.5 star, which I think was good. Then after that it was mostly MTs and other limited banners. We get about 600~ rubies a month from login tasks and bonuses which is enough for 2 ten pulls... cool. I'm not against more time to save, but unless you're impulse pulling on every banner, the slight extra time isn't that impactful imo.

[@mightylotan]

BOA epilogue could have been two weeks

[@Zxcvbnmkj]

i just want to fight mirgardi in en, come on square don't be dumb

[@andyhuynh2625]

My theory is SQEX recently downsized their team, so they're forced to delay things even if they don't want to. Could just be me coping though.

[@Ohhsoodead]

As someone that just plays major content updates, and don't care at all about anything else, this just means I'll be playing less and less, which means I may as well just drop the game. Kind of saddening, it was a good 2 years.

[@butthemeatwasbad]

What if we give them their anniversary plans, but they give us EN exclusive characters in the meantime?

[@DreamtOf]

I would hope they had some plan like this in mind, but that's not something they can play close to the chest without us getting upset. Stuff like that needed to be hinted at in the roadmap.

[@boomhauer7556]

I knew shit like this was gonna happen when they started dropping the ball over bullshit. These guys cancelled an entire livestream for weather. Like are you kidding me?? SE did this shit all throughout Covid with FFBE, FFRK, FFOPOM, etc. the community took arms against me and gave them every excuse but why? It’s a multi billion dollar company and this is the absolute slowest gatcha game SE has ever released. I’ve expected this behavior for long because the community has already let it go on for long. Hopefully they change this cause I’m done spending

[@PoomerXP]

I recall that they cancelled the livestream because the storm knocked out one of CM's power, and he's the main announcer.

[@swagmaster2114]

I hope they fix the road map

[@turntapeover5749]

Now that they finally announced EN EOS all I have to say is FUCKING CALLED IT. 😂

[@DreamtOf]

@@turntapeover5749 but they didn't? They are moving gl to netease

[@aaronkaferle1933]

Well now we’re getting transferred to NETEASE which means that we get to live 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@boomhauer7556]

I hate the refight content who wants to sit on there phone for 45 min plus to kill one boss and get 30 rubies or 100 guidestones. It’s exhausting and a ridiculous excuse for content

[@brutussmithers6341]

Someone made a good point, that you should be more concerned about EOS if the devs DONT respond to all this. Soon too. Like before the 2nd Ann.. because obviously no one will spend on the anniversary if everyone thinks it’s over in 3 months. Also, Given how they’ve responded in the past. (Bargello banner, et etc) I had a ton of fun with this game. It would suck to see it go.

[@LunaT-u8v]

EoS was essentially just confirmed during this TT today.

[@RandomPerson-uw1oo]

I only spent 2,100 rubies thus far the entire time I been playing the game. Why? Because after I spent 1,500, I heard about OT2 characters in JP version of CotC, as well as them having the new TP and 6 star system (other 600 rubies I used was from a special banner). So I decided to save since than til they come out that way I can get all of them (except Cleric), so I want 7 of those characters on day 1, that sadly meant I was unable to do fast clear event on those Arena fights to get even more rubies though cause not strong enough to do it that fast so I could had gotten even more rubies, but still higher chance of getting 7 OT2 characters regardless. Although it's not as excitable which is a shame, that is a plus for someone like me since it gives me that much more time to increase the chance of getting them all in day 1. And currently I have 24,000 rubies (All free rubies, not paid. Never paid for any rubies, not even once, not even the battlepass, only did advertisement to support them and that's literally it. So F2P friendly player here) cause of how long I been saving. And you telling me I have to wait even longer just when I thought it's finally close for the first OT2 character? Are you kidding me? Oh wow, lol XD

[@Zashux]

F y yo había epezado hace poco y me estaba encantando el juego, salvo pq son tacaños con las gemas, pero la historia GOD

[@odionoini]

If the game continues like this, it would be boring to play because there would be nothing new to do, they didn't add QOL either so the game will become boring to the point that no one will play it.

[@rainsspark]

I will lose it if on November roadmap they put in the words "Bestower of All Postscript Part 3" lol. Jk please don't do it, Square Enix

[@WiggleEtuff]

Sir, How Much Are You Being Paid By The Japanese Government To Say This?

[@DreamtOf]

You know too much 🔫

[@komania7789]

​@@DreamtOflmfaoo People live too much on the internet

[@KuronDarkly]

What are the chances of this game becoming fuctional as offline at eos? 😅 Its honestly depressing to think all the time and money put into this game over the past 2 years can just be lost at eos when it seems like this game could easily be playable offline and feels like a massive diservice to the fans

[@DreamtOf]

They made an offline version of one of their older mobile games, various daylife, but even that was years after. So I hope it will one day be a thing, but I wouldn't expect it anytime soon.

[@mchlup]

I have to say, the game on EN went through a really weird period. They kept releasing tons of units but not giving enough gems to the F2P, and the game was lacking in content. As a result I took a 4 month break from the game because Ditriana and Szantos were no where in sight. Then they release Ditriania and Szantos (for the 2nd Anniversary) but still no content. It's just really strange they way they are running EN honestly. I don't understand how those other servers are going to be closer to JP than us. 🤔 I've been watching your videos (and not playing the game) and I figured the game would already have the Octo 2 characters and content.

[@boomhauer7556]

This map is ASS

[@boomhauer7556]

No more spending until content drops and that’s ONLY if they drop more content at that time

[@astral4227]

@@boomhauer7556 just for curiosity how much money did u spend until start of play i am stuck at bestower of all and i am f2p only good units i have is o.odio 2b therion and cyrus