Fixing Dents and Creases in your 59Fifty Cap

[@dreinthe616]

Hey Everyone, I started a new series of "Compact Classics" for Fitted Caps, and the main topic of this video is covered in a newer and shorter video here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnPSh4usat5mitE - thanks for your viewership!

[@dfff4342]

Thanks man

[@PeacefulPariah]

I noticed we have similar tastes, or at least I think we do - wool, monotone, no side patch, embroidered logo.

[@Graciashauf]

Not all heros wear capes! So in-depth for something simple. I dig that. Thank you!

[@dreinthe616]

Hey, you are welcome, and thanks for posting, I'm glad I could help!

[@twiztidxintentionz]

Nope, some wear hats. 😂

[@うんち-v7y]

They fo wear caps tho

[@Andy-ph2dr]

can you really do anything about the creases on top/back of hat

[@briang4944]

@@dreinthe616 Where do you get your custom hat embroidery?

[@Davinci0913]

I could have saved so many hats that were thrown away because of this ... Thank You !!

[@dreinthe616]

Cool - no more throwing away caps... glad I can help! Thanks for the comment

[@user-ne7nn2df2m]

It didnt work for me,for how much time you applied heat?

[@mr.blackhawk142]

I RECYCLE most stuff bc there's somebody out there who may use it!

[@Pastorlogangrant]

This was a life saver. My hat fell off playing basketball and a student of mine accidentally stepped on it. Left the worst crease line on a limited A-frame from culture kings. Thought it was history but this saved it. You’re the man. 🤟🏼

[@dreinthe616]

That is great to hear, really glad to help out - thanks for the comments!

[@mr.blackhawk142]

@loogan grant, YOU are a teacher? Yes, we ARE doomed!

[@Pastorlogangrant]

@@mr.blackhawk142 No, I’m not an educator. All love to your negativity though. 🤟🏼

[@raypatson8775]

Lifesaver lol

[@Rimiler]

These videos also apply to any style cap that have a “new era fitted/snap-back shape”, and share the same kind of buckram. Which make these videos even 1,000,000 times more valuable.

[@dreinthe616]

One hundred percent - great callout to recognize that, thanks Randy!

[@davidtran1360]

great vid. For the amount of people wearing new era caps, there is a surprisingly small amount of content when it comes to maintaining and fixing them.

[@dreinthe616]

Thanks for the comment - I definitely try to specialize in editing/maintaining fitted caps with this and many other videos, so I appreciate the recognition!

[@mr.blackhawk142]

@Tranny lol, Yes, I just bought 7 different stretch caps, a red Blackhawks, Red Wings, Colts (white with blue horseshoe), LA Kings (purple classic), Bears, Vikings, Chargers, (Powder Blue with yellow bolt). I still have my black FITTED Blackhawks cap from decades ago. I sprayed some FABRIC STIFFENER on it way back then. I want to STIFFEN all of my caps bc they get dents, and creases in them. That's what brought me here.

[@gordonramsayslambsauce2519]

You’re a life saver dude, thank you for making this video! I stupidly threw in my 1993 Blue Jays Diamond Collection fitted into the washing machine with cold water and it came out creased and had lost a bit of its shape, but luckily through steaming it and shaping it with a cloth I was able to bring it back to life thanks to your video! Cheers my man 🍻

[@dreinthe616]

That is great to hear, really glad that I could help out!

[@pkshowsupnoobsallday]

Bro..... I just randomly decided to see if I could fix THEEEE dopest hat ever... and u showed up!! Thanks broski.

[@yybg8]

You are the man!!!!! I did it with my 8 hats i have. Works perfectly!!! Gonna do it every now and then from now on. thank you again brother 🙏🙏

[@dreinthe616]

Sounds great, glad I could help!

[@arbr3]

Thanks a lot for the video, had a girl hop in my backseat this past weekend where I had my White Sox City Connect 39thirty laying on the seat and she ended up giving it a few good creases. I was heartbroken honestly since it’s my favorite hat and impossible to find now so I thought all hope was lost. Looking forward to giving this a try to bring it back to life. You’re the man.

[@dreinthe616]

Thank you, it is tough to think about losing a hat you can’t replace… so I hope your restoration is successful!

[@tobiwalker7145]

I don't have a cap but a fully-sized Aussie-style slouch hat with Disney embroidery, bought "used" off Ebay but in new condition with a few creases. Something in my brain pulled the word buckram out when I saw the lining and here I am, learning to reshape this marvelous hat. Wish me luck!

[@leannesmith9770]

Just bought a hat through the mail, and the packaging it was in was very poor (a thick bag) and created 2 creases where the front label is. I will try these techniques. Thanks!

[@dreinthe616]

You are welcome, hope it helps!

[@imdbtruth]

That Sabres hat behind him is dope af! Hockey is my least watched sport, but NHL gear is my favorite! Partially because Zephyr used to make some NHL hats, and I much preferred Zephyr to New Era. The hat I want to restore the most is a fitted Zephyr Quebec Nordiques hat in royal blue.

[@tristan98908]

My mom sat in my favorite cap and if it was not for this video my cap would of probably been thrown or kept in a dark dusty box thank you 1 million brother

[@danielpuzzer7739]

To be completely honest i didn’t think this would work but it worked perfectly I was surprised thank you i highly recommend these methods

[@dreinthe616]

Thanks, glad you found something that worked.

[@OceanComfort-z4y]

THANK YOU! This technique worked great getting the dents out of the hats I had previously heat pressed a patch onto.

[@dreinthe616]

You're welcome - that is great to hear!

[@techny1549]

To much negativity, this gentleman brought my creases in my first edition Yankee On Field First Year of the new stadium back to New. Thanks Champ 🏆 🤝

[@elmaestroandres21]

Thanks man, I used a towel and steam from a boiling pot of water for some creases. It worked, I just made sure it was on the steam for a while as I pressed and stretched it with the towel. It was a very sentimental hat that was saved.

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, that's what I like to hear, you are most welcome!

[@barnman420]

Nice. Thanks Doug, well done. If your like me and sometimes read the comments too often. I just wanted to reiterate when your doing any of these techniques, on this video or others, to always start low and slow. And work your heat up gradually. I purchased a unique hat one size up from mine and tried shrinking it. I got it to shrink, but with the excessive heat and moisture, the buckram got warped and now I'm here, finding great methods to fix it in a step that was totally avoidable. Like most hats, the buckram has one of the main features of the cap. I even said to myself to not be so aggressive, but temptation got the better of me. So hopefully this can be a cautionary tale. Thanks again for the killer vids!

[@dreinthe616]

Hey Steve, thanks. I'm pretty sure I've made a similar disclaimer in many videos where I use either heat or steam, but there's a chance some of the commentary might have gotten clipped for time in this one. Especially since I skipped a chunk of the hairdryer exposure... once you feel the heat on your fingers on the outside, time to turn it off and start shaping! Thanks for your support.

[@beatmixtape]

two of my hats from an order arrived crushed, fixed the crown immediately with this tutorial, many thanks!

[@dreinthe616]

Glad to help out, especially when poor shipping is the cause!

[@romeoalpha68]

Wow . Thanks so much . I have several caps damaged in storage . You saved me a lot of money for replacement .

[@JayGold710]

I wear snapbacks but I bought a very nice yankee hat that has the Statue of Liberty in the front next to the NY and then a Big Apple next to the SnapBack but when I bought it I told the owner of the store that the hat had crease on the bottom left side and he gave me a discount I ended up getting the hat for 38$ which was 45 , still a lot for a new era 9Fifty but I love the hat but this definitely helped me fix my hat I appreciate your videos you got a new sub!

[@dreinthe616]

Thanks man, glad I could help out!

[@Hopper830]

I'm glad I found this video. Some idiot shipped my new Warriors 2022 NBA Finals hat in a plastic package instead of a box which had my hat all crumpled up and the bill all crooked. I was so mad. The hair dryer worked wonders though with the creases and dents. The bill isn't perfect but it looks straighter than when it arrived.

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, glad I could help save that cap!

[@1of.collective887]

Very good job Bro! Thank you for this info, my distributor had a situation with shipping so you made a lot of people happy! Stay great my friend

[@dreinthe616]

Thanks, glad I could help out!

[@marcox0101]

just got a squished box in from ups/usps (ups mail innovations) with a last in stock cap and this just saved me from pulling my hair out. my cap looks new and crisp. many thanks..

[@dreinthe616]

You are welcome, glad that I could help recover that cap!

[@jswank34]

I forgot one of my favorite hats from a golf club in a hotel and they shipped it to me in an envelope. It arrived very bent and creased. Using your method is nearly brand new. Thank you!

[@dreinthe616]

That’s great, glad I could help out!

[@darko0455]

you helped me revive and save about ten of my hats. i used the tea kettle which i find to be a better method and i was also able to lift the crown so its not so flat. thank you! my hats are much more wearable

[@dreinthe616]

That is awesome, the kind of stuff I love to hear... thanks for posting and enjoy those caps!

[@ethane-dawgwenger4207]

Just tried the dent technique, and it worked. Thanks, Doug!

[@dreinthe616]

Right on, good to hear!

[@NathalieCruz15]

THANKS SO MUCH THIS SAVED MY HAT!!! Had an event today and haven’t wore my LA hat in months had so many dents and this shit helps and made my hat like new !!! THANKS

[@701CPD]

Thanks for the video. My son just got me a beautiful 59Fifty 1939 Cincinnati Reds cap. Now I'll know how to fix creases and dents in it if and when they occur.

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, I guess you're thinking ahead, but hopefully never have to apply the technique... thanks

[@tollefvikerdegarden1081]

Fixed my grandpas volcom hat from 1990. Thank you so much❤️

[@scrap_metal_magic]

Great video, very informative. I’ve noticed that the crown of the older made in USA 59/fifty’s is much softer than the Chinese made ones.

[@dreinthe616]

I would agree - and the ones made in Bangladesh are even more stiff. Thanks!

[@tellelf501]

Watching it cause the last hat me daddy gifted me before he passed away got dented, thank you

[@dreinthe616]

You are welcome, happy to help.

[@toniom4032]

This video helped a lot I bought a palm angels hat from Saks fifth the other day and I got drunk af and woke up laying on it ima use your method to take the creases out

[@chasedavenport8400]

I order hats a lot and they are usually limited runs. Unfortunately shipping isn't always kind to the hats.

[@iiRapidzIV]

I came here cause I just got an Atlanta braves WS side Patch and it came fucked up

[@badman7707]

@@iiRapidzIV just ordered a yankee subway series cap and mfs sent it in a bag smh

[@thatoneguywho3434]

@@badman7707 bought a trucker hat and they did the same shit smh

[@ST19890]

best video i've seen on this topic

[@rampart-hmm3]

Thank you very much for this video, it was helpful. I just ordered one baseball cap through Amazon a few weeks ago and I was afraid that it might come poorly packed and it was, in a narrow box so that it was bent more on one side and less on the other. It seems to me that I straightened it well with the hair dryer now. :)

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, you are welcome, glad I could help!

[@jdubb2396]

I’m from Grand Rapids and you just saved my Whitecaps fitted

[@dreinthe616]

Right on, good to hear. Maybe we can catch Spencer Torkelson in a Whitecaps uni before he gets a call!

[@DNightNinja]

So I personally have a jiffy steamer I use for clothes and auto upholstery (j-4000) and this worked for my hat using that steamer. It was about $350 but they also make dedicated hat steamers like the j-1, j-2000h, and j-4000h hat steamers for about $150 for the j-1 and j-2000h and around $300 for the j-4000h these are more professional products but they WORK. If you’re like me and ALWAYS like your hats fresh and crease/dent free highly recommend picking one up.

[@artsinvegas5241]

I'm going to be fixing my caps this week. Thank you so much my hat wearing amigo.

[@dreinthe616]

You are welcome, glad to help out!

[@denied7616]

jesus, thank you so much 💜 you're very professional!

[@ruubentedman4606]

Thanks! I have a trucker/baseball cap and it got all creased and messed up. Great vid thank you!

[@dreinthe616]

Sure thing... I'm glad to hear it worked well for a slightly different type of cap too.

[@W-T-F-Over]

Thank you! Put me in the drawing for the new "my choice" ball cap. lol

[@kurimallow]

I thought my partners hat was forever damaged, thank* you so much for making this! I'm going to give it a try this weekend and hopfully surprise him with a fixed hat!

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, hope it works well for you, thanks

[@DaniLedesma16]

Man, you're a life saver. Thanks for this video! ❤️✨

[@dreinthe616]

Really cool, glad I could help!

[@WaveePapiii]

We need a review on the new WS Fitted they seem to have tons of defects and no year on the patch, it’ll be nice to see you do reviews on post season hats or some info on that kind of thing I think as a sub little post season review on caps wouldn’t be so bad! Thanks for content!

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, thanks man - I have not picked any of those up this year, but I did notice the really strange omission of 2021 on those patches this time. It was a down year for collections like that too - no Players Weekend caps, and there were only 6 or 7 City Connect caps after a lot of fanfare.

[@stalebreadzz]

Thank you so much for this video! The hairdryer trick is a life saver!

[@dreinthe616]

Right on, you are welcome!

[@NachoAverageFinds]

The video I needed 💪💪💪💪

[@destudiokurse5527]

Ребята, пробовал исправить вмятины после неправильного хранения, на боковых стыках ткань тоже имела складки. Лучший способ - 2 полотенца скрутить и вставить (набить) до приблизительно нужной формы и паром от чайника нагреть, выровнять, выгладить и оставить остыть. Аккуратно, чтобы не сильно много влаги было и да, в перчатках! Всем удачи!

[@instagramdedrizz2784]

Protect this man at all costs

[@petergordon8344]

Thanks for the great video. Sent it to all my buddies have the new era ball caps.

[@DCT876]

Thanks for keeping me fresh OG

[@BlacKWidoW70s]

That video was so professional 👏🏻

[@ksanders249]

3:51 to the good part

[@oderfhuerta6277]

Saved a bunch of hat's life today. Thank you sir they thank you lol

[@dreinthe616]

Outstanding, good to hear it!

[@damianangelov7796]

This Video is pure Gold

[@ecapone4389]

Nice video, you saved my old Chicago bulls cap

[@Rob-lv3fc]

Easy and simple. Worked well and my favourite hat looks good as new.

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, glad to hear it!

[@JRP..]

Thank you so much on these doug. You save my Angels Cap hehe

[@draztiktunez7104]

You just saved my dodgers hat thank you . I recently just bought it and had it hanging on my hat hangers in front of the bathroom door . Me and my wife got into a dumb argument so I kinda slammed the door not think and it put huge creases because it got stuck in-between the door and door frame . I tried all the techniques in this video ultimately it had to use the iron and that finally did the trick. The other techniques would be good for minor stuff but if it's bad then iron is the way to go. I was so nervous ironing it but everything turned out ok . Anyway thank you for the info and the video . I would have hated to throw a brand new hat away

[@dreinthe616]

You are welcome, happy to hear you saved that cap!

[@aziatic617allstar]

I'm a Mitchell & Ness hats guy because it feels, looks way better than New Era.

[@dreinthe616]

I'd like to try a Mitchell & Ness fitted, and will put together a review for one when I do, thanks for watching.

[@danfrenchtoast9830]

This is very helpful thank you for helping me on my journey as i repair my cap on my home

[@dreinthe616]

You are welcome, glad to help!

[@ttvdanefunk]

Thank you, my friend! The blow dryer method worked for me.

[@dreinthe616]

Right on, that's great to hear - you are most welcome!

[@AveryStolte]

What I found works best is if you deflate a ball and insert it into the hat and inflate it until it pushes out the dent or crease, then put a towel over it and iron it with a steam iron

[@johndiperna192]

The techniques worked great on my Richardson mesh back hat thanks for sharing this!

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, that's great to hear!

[@wills2652]

thanks so much! my fave hat for the school that I attend got dented! This is great! thanks!!

[@dreinthe616]

Right on, glad to help out!

[@marcovdwalt6261]

Hey man.. Small tip. Kettle and a spoon. Heat up the spoon. Press the inside of the cap. Press out the dent or crease 👍🏼

[@dreinthe616]

I'd published prior videos where I have used heat and a spoon to press out an intrusive logo ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppixdomZqd-dq68 ) and also as part of my regular break-in process for smoothing front crown panels or wrinkles in the sweatband ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHeyimCDerhprsk ). Here I was focused on repairs across a larger surface area.

[@damianporter7114]

Those were some tough creases thanks for the content 👍🏾

[@dreinthe616]

Sure thing, thank you

[@SonsOfZang]

Thank you for this. I used steam from my teapot and worked!

[@dreinthe616]

You are welcome, glad to hear it.

[@ChrissssNBob]

I’m watching this bc my dad gave me a expensive hat and I accidentally creased it

[@unknownprimal7106]

Lmfao

[@L3GHO5T]

WhAt hat?!

[@bassboy_davis3111]

@@L3GHO5T prolly Columbia 😢

[@UrFavArmoWarriorOfGod]

BRO SAMMMMMEEEEEEEEE Same exact story that’s crazt

[@carlosrobles2048]

We are also happy for you, keep up the good work man!

[@tkkirkland220]

I just got my grail and USPS box was damaged so my hat got a wrinkle , thanks for this video

[@dreinthe616]

Arghhh, shipping damage is the worst... glad I could help - thanks!

[@techny1549]

Cleaning Tips for the wool hats would be great 👍

[@dreinthe616]

I do have 2-3 cleaning videos on my channel page, most tips can be applied to wool caps - and I appreciate the suggestion.

[@techny1549]

@dre in the 616 Thanks Champ! What is fhe best way just creases at the top of my opening day Yankee Stadium hat iron? Looks like indents a pic if I can send you would get it on the time. I want to get it to the real wool feel also. Thanks in Advance for all your help. 🤝 now sneaker restores for you? Free tips.

[@techny1549]

@@dreinthe616 I really appreciate it I have to check out your cleaning tips.

[@rockywest1407]

Very very very simple sir . Appreciate man 🆙🔥🔥🔥

[@AlyssaShawne]

put a hat in my suitcase baggie didn't handle it well now it has dents and creases, This fixed ittt

[@dreinthe616]

Nice, good to hear it's fixed!

[@jaimegranero9027]

Thanks man, you saved many of my caps

[@dreinthe616]

Sure thing, glad I could help!

[@rawtoast4152]

Thank you so much you saved three of my favorite hats

[@dreinthe616]

Great to hear, glad I could help!

[@santylowks7454]

hat collection 🔥

[@sonnywong378]

I'm in Thailand New Era official store do reshape the Cap for free, they told me as long as the cap is genuine is free for the life time of your hat and I think official store in the US have it too.

[@djbrown_]

Thanks for the high quality video man !! I tried the ironing method some days ago with a crease that i had in my cap, improving the visual aspect of it but in terms of texture the cap stayed a bit rough in the place that I did the ironing, I realized that with the heat the inside of the panel remained with air forming some sort of balloon as if the white fabric had come unstock. I don't know if I did something wrong but that problem is stopping me of restoring more caps, if you know how I could solve or prevent that please tell me about it 🙏🏼 Thanks for the info

[@dougwbenson]

Thank you for creating this video. I’ve used towels for a long time too. Never thought to try the hair dryer or the stovetop steam. Very cool 😎

[@dreinthe616]

Hey, thank you Doug - glad you could appreciate the techniques!

[@willamestrada1121]

Man.. I could have saved hundreds of dollars if I only saw your video b4.

[@astroobandzzz9567]

Thank you so much this videos have been helping me out a lot ! Preciat it

[@dreinthe616]

Good to hear it, thank you!

[@brandonivey2001]

This is awesome. Is there a what to make the brim stiffer again? Some of my hats that I wear frequently, the brims have gotten softer and won’t keep their shape. I guess over time sweat and water has just softened it.

[@dreinthe616]

Unfortunately there is no way to get stiffness back into the visor - they can get fatigued from either water exposure or frequent flexing/shaping. This is mostly true for any visor with fiber/cardboard content - and New Era has a plastic/fiber blend which is better, but can still wear out and soften over time. 47 Brand uses plastic visors which don't normally fatigue like this. I did a whole video on visor types, ICYI it's on my channel page, thanks.

[@elliotspencer1384]

Amazing Doug- always appreciate your techniques as well as your diligence to do the job right.

[@dreinthe616]

Elliot, good to hear from you as always, and thank you.

[@615jets]

Ty if I knew this wouldn’t had thrown out so many hats if I knew this ty

[@dreinthe616]

Sure thing, once I saved a couple with this I decided to share, so I'm glad to hear you will be able to rehab some caps!

[@PeacefulPariah]

I really like the recommendation of the soccer skills ball. That's perfect. Quick question, my puppy chewed off the buttons of two of my really nice new era caps. What do I do about that? I saw that you can get buttons on Amazon but is there someplace I can just go to replace them real quick, like Lids or something?

[@dreinthe616]

Tigers cap is definitely a 59Fifty. This repair relies on the buckram up front, so the Dodgers 39Thirty where I removed the dent operates on the same principle of smoothing/reforming the buckram.

[@PeacefulPariah]

Great video. I will say that time heals all wounds I've had some hats that I thought were unrepairable but I just wore them and they gradually came back into shape. Obviously, I would recommend your method but just thought I'd mention it. Do you recommend a blow dryer over a steamer?

[@dreinthe616]

For just forming the two buckram panels up front, hair dryer is sufficient... but in any other case of shaping or editing caps, I recommend steaming because it relaxes the fabric too, thanks.

[@andresblanco3833]

Keep doing your thing boss great f’n content 👍🏽👍🏽

[@RpGamingProductions1]

Im watching because I beat up my stuff and I now have to deal with all my hates being creased.

[@tonz928]

Great video. Im a fitted hat dealer in Grand Rapids.

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, retail or wholesale? I'm in GR too, and would check it out if it's retail and accessible. Thanks!

[@tonz928]

@@dreinthe616 I have retail priced hats along with a more limited ones from Manolo and Jon J. We got lucky with some Myfitteds this past year. Im near John Ball Zoo and Family Fare area.

[@murda_3210]

Thank you so much man I needed this

[@dreinthe616]

Right on, glad I could help!

[@pr0gressd]

I have a problem with the "headband" inside in the front curling on old and used ones, any idea how to make it flat again?

[@dreinthe616]

If it is pretty old and worn that's probably a form of dry-rot with the materials and foam inside of it. The only thing I could recommend trying would be the front of a flat iron... but you'd need something to support the outside of a cap - like a bowl or cap insert. I haven't had to deal with that yet, but I am looking for a way to get creases out of sweatbands, so maybe I'll give it a try, thanks.

[@walterlangkowski4723]

I think vevor makes a heated hat press from about 120 dollars I’ve been thinking about it

[@dreinthe616]

Thanks for the comment - looks interesting for crafting trucker style caps, but I'm not sure how useful it would be for the whole crown.

[@ricmartinez83]

Man thank you so much for this video this helps out a lot

[@dreinthe616]

Sure thing, man - glad I can help

[@alberts1985]

Anyone else order a hat online and it come with a big ass dent in it lol. Merry Christmas.

[@jayhill1703]

i just received 5 rn😔all w massive dents now here i am

[@guerratiburon]

Order 1 came with dent

[@killamode8186]

Ordered 2 mad dents now im here lol

[@dannynugroho1431]

Very nice dre! How about remove the wrinkles?

[@dreinthe616]

Check out this other video on my channel for that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXbTaXymqraJnJo Thanks

[@dannynugroho1431]

@@dreinthe616 thanks

[@juliencooper177]

I don't know why hat makers put buckram in ball caps. If the right material is used and the panels are cut and sewn right, without that added they can come out to form with just a hint from the hair or head while they may need the occasional ironing like pants for those kinds of creases to the material itself. And some different kinds of caps or hats are somehow made seemingly with nothing added but yet gently pop back into shape without creases or wrinkles even after being stored tightly or sat on. I had a tam and it had a form fit like a military beret which stayed, it was rabbit fur, I couldn't reform it to make a new shape less a military style. I have a felt cap with a wide brim, it does the same on the dome while the brim holds its slight flexed shape, it's cowboy style. The strands of that buckram in ball caps also separate in such a way that they become no longer a uniform pattern in design, that breaks the integrity of their intended hold. It looks wavey and disorganized inside, that won't go back to straight lines with air or steam heat and a skills ball or towel. These plastic strands also tend to come out at the seams, and they poke the fingers and head, they also snag delicate materials, say if coming in contact with a knit sweater. It's rather nasty getting jabbed by these and sometimes there's one pointy tip just touching the head causing an itch which won't go away with scratching, the hat has to come off for final relief, find it and carefully clip it down with nail clippers or scissors, huh, do that in your meeting or at the stadium. I have separated that junk from the fabric where I can find a weak or detached spot, cut a hole into it, separate it just to the stitches with a nicely edged plastic stick and then pulled each strand out. That's hard to separate, cut without getting the material or stitching and get them all out, especially in the middle seam between the 2 panels and out through embroidered patches. But I either get a relaxed form of what the cap was or a more relaxed shape fitting closer to the head shape depending on the material and how I reform the panels. It has happened where the creases stayed because they were trained into it too long by that buckram or the material needed some sort of better support to stay under it. Sometimes there are tiny white dots left inside, likely traces of layer-bonding glue. That's okay though, looks like an intentional dotted pattern and people don't look in my caps anyhow. I am so sure many people throw out caps which get creases and wrinkles permanently as it seems, what a landfill disaster that is. And the money spent on them, that's a whole disappointment. People who collect caps, there's going to be tight display spaces and even times things get tighter during moving or renovating, I'm sure a lot of damaged ball caps result from that even if never worn or scrunched into a suitcase. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the damage added character, but the way this stuff goes, it just looks like it was piled in some dingy corner, then washed, not like a leather or canvas cap which went to work and camping vacations and got weathered with a few battle scars. Risking Shiney spots. I am curious why pants are more durable with iron heat than many ball caps. They're made of nylon or other materials which melt. Sometimes things are made to pay lots and toss far and repeat. Hat makers have to catch up with the small numbers of manufacturing companies and industries which have or are finally making thing to last so we save the money and the environment while having something of value to pass along to family and friends. You first creased your caps with a Sharpy and a pressing to demonstrate the fix and you couldn't get them back to what they were, better but not original. Nope, that's not good. There's also a foam layer in some caps. After they age a bit, that crumbles, put that on your head and then go shampoo, then clean up where that cap shead some of that over a while and launder the cap in hopes all that washes out and it appears as a nicer cap. That's probably not even healthy, off-gassing and particles getting into places which are difficult to clean out. I say: we need to boycott hat makers and promo merchandise suppliers / sellers where these useless caps are made and sold. You might buy your next cap for the long-term once they catch on. Yeah, spread the word, let these people figure it out from our side. I found your video from an Internet search because I am trying to save a ball cap with its (buckram) form and it is hard to pull this all out. I thought oh, maybe someone has experience I can use. Well, it's not going as good as you did, not even close. Oh yeah, the peaks with cardboard in them. These are real pieces of junk too. I recall a box of ball caps embroidered with the company logo came to my workplace. The boss hoped we'd wear them. I claimed one and a peer grabbed it and "put that nice crease into it" a jagged ridge appeared in the middle under the material. I said 'Thanks, I'll get a different one now, keep your hands off my things.' and I made sure not to put a sharp bend in it dry or wet. But eventually it broke down into little fractures or blisters from rain. And weak hat bands sometimes with exposed materials which fray and hang out and crooked stitching, ball caps are the worst for poor quality in the garment industry. The embarrassing disheveled look is not as bad with the messy hair as with the junky ball cap.

[@dreinthe616]

Certainly an epic comment, thanks for taking the time to explain your views on several topics. On the very first point I would say that I like the buckram because it gives structure to the crown and therefore a more 'tailored' and crisp silhouette. And manufacturers do NOT put buckram in every cap model - the '47 Brand Clean Up and Franchise Models and the New Era 9Twenty have none. The New Era Golfer and '47 Hitch do not have it either, just a curved nylon stiffener panel under the pinch-crown front - the stiffener can be easily cut out if you prefer. And New Era periodically offers the 59Fifty in a "Retro Crown" model with Cooperstown logos - and the buckram used is classic linen, which is almost like having no structure at all. Other retro cap makers (e.g. Ebbets Field Flannels) have honored historic 6-panel and 8-panel ballcap designs with the same kind of soft buckram - no nylon thread for stiffening at all.

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@@dreinthe616 I like that crisp look too, if it will stay or at least be easily regained to its former self once crunched or bent, and without the prickly ends sneaking out the seams. I think one reason for those strands is they leave it breathable, so air and sweat can move. A pair of panels with something solid would be like having part of a rubber ball sewn into your ball cap, a wet mess. However, with today's technology and new materials, even older materials with form fits without backing, I'd think buckram should be the old and outdated fail. I hope there's a better way, something with holes built-in or punched in, takes heat if needed including the accidental parked car interior heat and generally just pops into shape with touching inside and just putting it on. And with no sharp ends, that means everything to me even if the crown shape comes out with a nicer character - warn-everywhere look. I do think it's time to call buckram stiffened caps the cheap and useless, disposable caps, call it what it makes any cap which won't be hung or sat in a dry, dustless spacious display area - like a paper or cardboard craft keepsake for its lifetime. And, I am curious how that hat block may stretch the band when that is placed in to make the crown shape again. When I have any hat or ball cap which fits snuggly and stays good enough in the wind, the last thing I want to do is brace it to maintain it. I did that once just with tightly packed-in towels in attempt to reform the crown and that was enough to loosen it, came off in any light breeze with no fix to that. This stretching worked in my favour with too-tight hats though, they fit and stayed to the new size stretched in. Thank you for your reply, you got a thumbs up on it for keeping the conversation going.

[@ingebriktyt7412]

thank you mioster man for helping me. my caps was bent on myh caps so you help me insteaf of me friend

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, glad this video was able to help you, thanks.

[@htx.g9322]

How do you get rid of the circular dents in the back of the hat ??

[@gstyle3138]

Do you have any suggestions or a video on if there is a slight crack in the brim/bill .. I try steaming but it won’t come out. It naturally happened as I was making the curve .. not sure if it happened due to the stitching being off on the hat .. Never happened before