Dremel Moto-Saw Review (A Scroll Saw Killer?)

[@joviancoins2853]

It was a good review. The only thing I noticed is he did not clamp it properly. The slots in the base allow the saw to be clamped directly to the bench from the front. It was clamped on what is essentially a diving board in the demo. Looks like a nice entry level scroll saw.

[@annawulf4910]

OverviewI had an old Black and Decker Firestorm set that was getting very long in the tooth kzbin.infoUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv so it was an easy decision when this set went on sale. I'm not a pro or a handyman. I'm an occasional DIYer. So for me, this set is fantastic. I am very happy with my purchase.The Good Parts Very well priced for what you get Comes with everything you need - two batteries, a charger, and a carry bag The products feel very well made Not too heavy The drills are small and ergonomic (for my smallish hands) Huge ecosystem - Dewalt makes a lot of tools that use the same battery type and chargerCould Be Better I guess I could say that I wish the batteries were bigger, but that's a relatively minor compaint

[@customer7903]

Thanks for your easy video, I was looking at getting one of these BUT now will stick with my hand saw for intricate work.

[@FloweringElbow]

No problem 👍

[@r5cpt]

I don't get why this video got so many downvotes, when it shows some realistic and some interesting use cases. I specifically wanted to see how it copes with the occasional thick wooden board, and got that question answered (it copes - just about). Thank you for your review.

[@RacingUnderdogPH]

Its the person reviewing the product not product itself, the guy on the video is incapable of doing an honest review due to the fact that he doesnt know the basic of assembling an out of the box product, which is to read the manual first.

[@qlf13]

Hi. What is the minimal diameter hole that blade fit through?

[@thelittlemouseshouse]

Thank you. I found this a really comprehensive review that was perfect for a crafter like me!

[@dawnlarson3071]

I believe this is a CRAFT saw. Therefore it is not meant for heavy work. I have one and I like it. Very easy for me to use.

[@FloweringElbow]

Well said sir. And now I know its quirks and limitations a little better, I too find it handy at times.

[@richardclowes6123]

I have the same scroll saw. I stuck some anti-vibration pads underneath the unit and then clamped it to a work top. This virtually eliminated the vibration. Given enough practise fitting the blade does become easy . . . . trust me ! Open up a gap for the pins at the top of the blade to go in with a knife or whatever; it won't affect anything else apart from making it easier ! How Dremel missed that on the design concept amazes me. The beauty of this unit is the ability to mount it anywhere when needed and easy to store on a shelf when not in use as it is small and compact. I can't imagine putting a larger heavy one on a shelf eh !!!!

[@FloweringElbow]

Good points all!

[@ShanicornBeauty]

I believe this is the perfect diy saw for doing small crafts like dollhouses and miniatures. Getting one soon. Thanks!

[@FloweringElbow]

I think you are probably right. Did you get one? How did it work out for you?

[@ShanicornBeauty]

@@FloweringElbow Yup I got one a week ago. Haven't got the courage yet to try it tho. 😅 It's my first mini tool/saw. Will try soon.

[@FloweringElbow]

@@ShanicornBeauty Go for it! Let us know how it goes :)

[@earthwormscrawl]

I use this to cut acrylic and lexan. Run at the slowest sped to avoid melting and it works great. (I usually need to use the side facing blade to cut long sheets.)

[@thelazychefuk4410]

I use painters tape on the acrylic, Sellotape works too or I keep the original sticky coating on if it is new plastic. This cools down the saw so the acrylic doesn't melt. I have a an Einhell though, quite glad I didn't get this one!

[@doreestone4487]

#1) ALWAYS read the directions provided by the manufacturer before attempting to use the product. #2) Look carefully at the pictures. Had you looked at the picture for how to fix the saw to your workbench, you would have seen that you had it attached incorrectly. You only had one side supported on the workbench. This produced much more vibration because it wasn't securely affixed. It also led to you having trouble seeing what the blade was cutting because the presser foot obstructed your view. Had you attached it to the workbench properly, you would have been looking forward at the cut instead of from the side and the presser foot would not have been in your way. I think it's simply a matter of men not thinking they need directions. They want to jump right in and start playing with their new toy. But, if you take the time to read the directions first, you will avoid many difficulties which will slow you down far more than reading first. Because of these reasons I feel that the review wasn't fair to the product. You weren't following the instructions of the manufacturer which led you to make negative comments about the tool which were not due to the tool's ability or ease of use.

[@FloweringElbow]

Thanks for your perspective. I guess I had little choice about it, being a man and all... I actually agree with you on some points, (though not the gender based casualty). I will try for better next time... The presser foot obscures from any angle if cutting anything other than straight lines. I did get the clamping very wrong though, and I apologise for that. Inexcusable error, that lead to shoddy results. Sometimes I surprise myself with my own stupidity... sorry.

[@doreestone4487]

@@FloweringElbow It is unfortunate that tone of voice cannot be heard in comments, so you have no way of knowing what is said with humor. But I do appreciate your response and wanted to make you aware that the one thing which bothered you was said in jest.

[@Mrgrumpypants84]

@@FloweringElbow buddy, we're men, we dont need instructions, and we dont need dorris telling us any different! Lol,still takes less time than it takes to read a book/instruction manual. Dont apologize and call yourself stupid, pound your chest, chug a beer and get your ass back to work.

[@FloweringElbow]

@@Mrgrumpypants84 lol. arrrrrggh (pounding chest!)

[@ttraining879]

My blades break a lot, do you know what the reason is please?

[@tartanrambo]

Greetings from Scotland. Do you have any ideas how to cut a 45 degree mitre given the table does not adjust from 90 degrees?

[@FloweringElbow]

Hmmm. A different tool would be best.

[@tartanrambo]

@@FloweringElbow Let's just say, if I only have the Moto-Saw? I've seen someone on YT tape wooden 45° blocks onto the table to act as a guide. But that is not very sophisticated. I've tried searching for triangular aluminium tube online but I can't seem to find anything appropriate. I thought, given how long you have owned your own saw, you may have surmounted this problem. But, if you have a workshop full of equipment, I guess this question doesn't apply to you. But, thank you for sharing your thoughts and your videos.

[@kaypee65]

I am a handy girl getting ready to replace all of the baseboards in my house. Were it a room or two I'd just use a manual coping saw. But they look so fiddly and I went looking for an alternative. I was debating about this saw. Your review did not gloss over the drawbacks. At the same time it looks like this tool would be a good fit for what I need; especially since I can have it in the room where I'm working without generating excessive dust. It may be a cheap, limited use product, but it's a good fit to help me be successful in something I was otherwise uncomfortable taking on.

[@FloweringElbow]

Hi kay, thanks for the comment. As you say It sounds fine for that application. It has actually grown on me as a tool, since using it for a few more sensible applications 🙃

[@killerdinamo08]

Wow, handy girl 😍. I thought it was an extinct 'species' 😲.

[@fuzzy_bear]

I build model RC aircraft so I need to cut mostly balsa and light-ply. For my purposes and material use I think this might make an excellent tool as apposed to an exacto knife and 50 rolls of sandpaper. it's a pity the base doesn't angle for 30-60 and 45 degree cuts but a simple hardwood "jig-block" will suffice. I use my Dremel 4000 extensively when building models. For hobbyist's cutting lightweight thin materials this should be excellent.

[@FlowerChyld43]

Is there one you recommend that's best for intricate work?

[@FloweringElbow]

After ising it more I actually recon this Dremel onevis OK for intricate work on thinish material. But probably not as good as a more traditional cast iron based scroll saw.

[@FloweringElbow]

Friends, thanks for watching, I really appreciate it! I hope it is useful to you to see the motosaw in action. This video was a "FIRST LOOk", at the motosaw -a review based on my initial impressions. Since making it I realise I made a few mistakes! My subsequent experiences have been more positive. I realised I was over complicating how I clamped it to the bench - and with better clamping it vibrates MUCH less (assuming the bench is quite rigid). This makes it a much more usable saw! Most of my other observations remain: good dust extraction, a bit too plastic, horribly fiddly blade change, lightweight and transportable. When I get time, I'll try and do another review, now I have more experience with it. If you have the Motosaw yourself I'd love to hear what you think of it, compared to a traditional scroll saw ?? I'd particularly love to hear from you if you use it in the hand held mode (is that just a marketing scheme, or are people actually using it like that??). Thanks again friend, Bongo.

[@rx-robo3405]

I use handheld mode to cut large plywood, not too bad

[@arpansen6231]

Thanks for your very helpful review. However, after attaching the saw blade I tend to notice that it isn't perfectly straight, resulting in angled cuts and making it challenging to get the wood straight in. The wood piece always tends to move away. As a fix I need to start at an angle and push it in at angle different from 0°, which isn't very ideal. Any help from anyone would be highly appreciated! Thanks...

[@crowznest438]

I cheered when you finally picked up the user manual. : )

[@Ceyhunabdullayev144]

What is the thickness of the wood so that the saw blade is not broken?

[@FloweringElbow]

Good day Ceyhun. Thank you for your question. I am not 100 % sure, as it will depend on a number of factors, such as the hardness and grain direction of the type of wood. More than that it will be heavily influenced by how you use the saw, if you are doing long continuous cuts vs short ones, curved vs straight, and how aggressively you cut. Hope that helps. Bongo.

[@ericfontidl]

hi ty for the video, do you think this can cut small pieces of rocks? carbonates for example?

[@FloweringElbow]

Probably could do that, I doubt it would be a pleasing or good method though.

[@nextellcup8]

i had a delta but was to big for my work area. i picked one of these up 3 years ago and i totally love it . but anything over 3/4 an inch you would want a bigger one.

[@drumw41]

Does it use plain blades & the adaptors for the blades come with it? TY!

[@11941leechie]

Like a test on 4’’ Olsen blades for it with small kerfs.

[@11941leechie]

Doesn’t look like they doing it with small kerfs. Just copying them. It’s the one thing that’s holding me back from buying it. Would be so much easier to go to markets with this.

[@deepakparab1808]

Which blade support for this machine?

[@kjemradio]

You did forget that this is a 2 in 1 saw. When it is removed from the base it becomes a coping saw. For the hobbyist wood worker this is a slick tool. Denser wood is gonna push this thing pretty hard, but softer woods (like mahogany) should be no problem. Also more teeth in the blade will give you more precise cutting, and scrolling work. Note too that this isn't a ripping type of saw so don't expect this to aggressively cut like a saw mill blade. That;'s what a bandsaw can be used for.

[@FloweringElbow]

Hey Kjemradio, Good points all! I still haven't experimented with it in hand held mode - the need never seems to arrive... When do you find youself using it this way? Thanks for your comment :) Peace, Bongo.

[@TheBrainwaveHub]

How do you think it would cope with 5mm thick rosewood or ebony? I would be cutting mostly curves.

[@deeoneal1267]

Have you tried cutting copper sheet ( 18 gauge or so ) with this using the metal blade?

[@FloweringElbow]

Hi Dee, good question, but no, sorry I haven't tried that. anyone else?

[@timadams3975]

I would have bought one today until I heard he sound on here. Thanks for the vid.

[@FloweringElbow]

Hi Tim, thanks for getting in touch. No problem 👍 - Just don't be too hard on the saw - this was just a first look remember. I have since softened my slightly negative stance towards it quite a bit (as i have learned to use it properly!!) Peace, Bongo

[@philrobbie1670]

ive been using one of these for several years now, its not great, but it works, its nice that its fairly portable and doesnt take up a lot of space, but it doesnt compare to a scroll saw

[@FloweringElbow]

Thanks for sharing your experience Phil, appreciate that :)

[@rhondamcginn35]

I love my Dremel Moto Saw, I use it for very fine work. And you are supposed to keep the presser fot on top of the piece you are cutting out. Safety first.

[@jejosi]

I have one several years now but do not like to use it often. Having said that I managed succesfully to saw out a delicate 3D figure last week (as my other saw was broken), it worked best at full speed and with the plastic support as tightly as possible against the wood, I was cutting through 4 cm. Fitting the blade back with the blade through the wood for an inside cut was nearly impossible and took me several tries. Another annoying point is that you need a big hole to fit the saw blade through, more than 2mm! I have no issue with blades breaking, probably because I use the highest speed and work slowly. The table is fixed so cutting under an angle is not possible. I do not find the sawdust suction great, I have a festool dust extraction system, but still have to blow sawdust constantly what covers my line. I love the dremel drill stand and accessories to route, drill, sand etc, but this saw is not much use for me, and I do not like using it either. The positive, it's nicely packed away in a platic box ones you puzzled out how to put everything back, lol. To buy or not to buy? Well it depends for what you want to use it for. If you want a real scrollsaw spend more money and sawing becomes much easier!

[@vankuipland]

These seem to be ideal for cutting lard, butter and mellow puffs .

[@rogerhawkins6433]

Yes. I bought Dewalt..... should have done that in the first place. I’m now a devotee of Dewalt and am progressively replacing all my hand tool with the new stuff....I got a recommendation from a friend of mine who is a builder! I’ve learned my lesson..... kind regards from Auckland, New Zealand :)

[@FloweringElbow]

Cool. Amazing how important a recommendation from a friend is. Hope things a well over there in NZ. Peace, Bongo.

[@bodstrup]

Finally - the instructions :-) - First test found it useless - blade bending/twisting, hard/impossible to make a straight cut in 6 mm board (hard) UPDATE: I put the blade in upside-down. The top of the blade have a long section with no teeth - Unfortunately I mounted it in the Australian way - upside down, giving almost no cutting. Closer inspection after watching videos of the saw working revealed the embarrassing truth. You don’t notice the ‘missing’ teeth when the saw is running.

[@johanbooysen2530]

Thanks for the review. I am for sure not going to get one and your video put that to rest for me.

[@kathycrv14]

Hi!, Actually, I have this product, so I try to make a straight cut but I have many problems with it because of the vibrations, I have a good one straight cute in the begining but after It moves even I press the piece of wood over the black table, to be honest I don't know if it is my hand that doens't press hardly or this is how dremel moto saw works. Also, I can say the blades are to thin that it makes 'em to weak and with the vibrations it makes it worst. I would like to know if you got any piece of a straight cut perfectly and it doenst look like a bite of shark.

[@asmallholdinginwales]

I have this scroll saw and yes I am just a hobbyist but I found it easy to set up and use, mine is clamped to a work bench I get very little vibration, I did read the instructions first, mine looks slightly different to yours and came with a UK plug and a miter gauge that fits in those grooves, I have had mine about 4 years now.

[@BigbyGralla]

Hi Dawn, would you recommend this for a dollhouse hobbyist? I'm looking for a moto-saw for a bench. Thank you!!

[@systemtim]

Dreadful review really simply because you set about to criticise from the beginning. The only thing you praised was the free notebook from Instructables. IMHO all Dremel kit is easy to use doesn't require too much skill to work out how to use it, maybe read the instruction on assembly first?

[@FloweringElbow]

Thanks Systemtim, I also praised the dust extraction - which is excellent, how tightly you can make turns in the cut, how portable it is, and how it managed to cut through a thick chunk (which surprised me).

[@akaredcrossbow]

Timmamakes yes it’s a great video! Gives you a real feel for what your in for, what to do and what not to do!👍🏻👍🏻

[@nitsan]

looks nice. I considered one for a while but I reckon I'll just get some slimmer blades for my jigsaw and a hand coping saw for really delicate work. That noise and vibration would annoy me.

[@FloweringElbow]

It's certainly one you would want to use ear defenders with🙉. I'm not sure you will be able to use blades too similar in a jigsaw as these blades for scroll saws are designed to be used in tension - they are very flexible without support both ends...

[@nitsan]

thanks. yeah I just mean some blades slimmer than my current ones.

[@dacentabaal]

I was always under the impression the power came from your dremel that you attached to it, not that it had its own power source entirely

[@FloweringElbow]

Good evening Lucas. Thanks for the comment. Power comes from the mains supply. Its 110v so here in the uk I need to use a step down transformer.

[@fredio54]

Nice Record 25 fitters/turners quick release vice in the back ground! I have two of those, one like yours in near-new condition (one tiny angle grinder mark on the back of the frront jaw that I could fill and touch up) and one vintage with the beautiful rounded hub for the handle. Great vice either way :-)

[@fredio54]

The slow mo at 10:36 highlighted that without the foot down and firmly pretensioned you're wasting a lot of the power it has on resonating the head up and down rather than cutting the timber. Definitely just a hobby level toy, though. I stopped using my old moto tool when I got my M12 die grinders :-)

[@Backstabbio]

Heard mixed reviews of those, which did you get?

[@fredio54]

@@Backstabbio Both. They are not as powerful as an air die grinder, but air tools beat lithium tools every time, the power source is external so size to punch is always best. However they are powerful enough to do reasonable things. Unlike an air tool you can't *over*load them or they will stall out. Also watch out for the earlier version of the straight one - it has a one size fits all collet whereas the right angle and later version of straight one have the same 3 collet system which is much better. Borrow or try one in a shop or something, take your target work style and test it, I found them to be great especially for stuff like getting a 3" cutting disk into a tight place to cut something I otherwise couldn't. Just take it easy and it'll do great.

[@fredio54]

@@Backstabbio If I wanted to do some heavy long period work with a die grinder I'd still get out the air tool because of the infinite run time and superior power when you lean on them too hard (note TOO hard). But for example shifting a wrongly placed drilled hole in some steel plate over a few mm or so, I'd go for these every time. Same deal with big grinders, I have 3 dewalt flexvolt grinders near the garage door and I pick them up for small jobs every time. If I was doing heavy fab and lots of grinding back welds or rust removal or some such, I'd run an extension lead and use a tool that will out-last me :-D

[@Backstabbio]

@@fredio54 Thanks for the review! I've been looking at getting the M12 grinders for a while, being cordless is too handy.

[@SuBastos]

I got mine yesterday and not happy with it, first time I use it today I damaged the plastic hole where the blade runs with the blade. Vibrates a lot and for me is not a good investment...or maybe just need to practice a bit more...

[@FloweringElbow]

Hi SuBastors, thank you for getting in touch and sharing your experience. I have actually found it more useful as I have go to use it more. I think a LOT of the vibration in mine was mitigated when I changed the clamping arrangement, and clamped it to the 3/4" steel plate of my welding table! My biggest gripe is still that the blade change system is fiddly, and that it's just repulsively plasticy... Thanks again, Bongo.

[@davesunhammer4218]

Coming in late to the convo, sorry. Used a few scroll saws and lots of band saws. Let's stick with the first rule of any craft: The Right Tool For The Job. All Dremel tools are more for the hobbyist. Period. Always some in-duh-vidual that buys a Dremel anything to save some money and then bitches because it's Not Professional Grade!! Well, if you yourself were pro grade you'd have known before the purchase. I am considering buying this moto saw thingy for hobby/light work. I build custom knife sheaths and other things using materials like kydex. This saw should be just fine for that kind of application... maybe. Will keep looking for reviews. I've got the Ridgid 20v Drill / Driver combo, and really do not need to pull it out to drill some stitch holes in leather. That is why I have a Dremel... for Dremel type jobs. Way more compact, easy to handle, and amazingly has all the power I need, to drill through an inch of leather. If I am doing custom woodworking then I'll pull out the Rigid hand drill or more likely head to the drill press so I can get super precise drilling done. Same with cutting. If I am making a custom pocket magnifier with a little cherry and walnut the big band saw will definitely do the job, but it's work I could easily do at the hobby table with a lot less saw. Maybe this saw is perfect for that light work it was intended for. Anyway, scroll saws are primarily That Tool for cutting out hole shapes. Outside edge work really should be done on the band saw, but people get lazy, even me. Still, blade life, motor life, etc... scroll saw = inside hole shapes / band saw = outside shapes. Doesn't matter the scroll saw, you are going to bust blades and cuss putting them in. Craftsman, Delta, Dewalt, Shop Fox... blades bust always in the middle of the cut so cussing occurs (see steps 2, 5, 12-16). Band saw blades will bust under the right conditions but as you said the whole blade gets used. -- In closing, I am not trying to be an a-hole, but you can't make some cantilever surface to clamp a scroll saw to and then bitch about vibration. "Vibration" saws are all about that rattle, does not matter brand or if you use the little boot, you will vibrate your hands numb pushing an 8 hour shift on one. Simple Physics says putting ANY scroll saw on a surface supported at only one end will be trouble. Hell, now that I write this I am actually more interested in this saw since I am surprised you got any cut out of it the way you had it rigged. The more the scroll saw vibrates the less energy goes into the cut. Stop as much vibration as possible and you get as much cut energy as possible. Thanks for filming your experience with this tool.

[@FloweringElbow]

Hey Dave, Thanks for this. I think you're about right on all points. It IS way better after I clamped it up differently to a more solid surface. Peace, Bongo.

[@fabiandaroca]

Thank you! Great video! I was looking to buy one of these so I'm searching reviewes...

[@robertlangley258]

Fabian Daroca ....this is because your an idiot too just like this guy.

[@nextellcup8]

i’ve had mine for 3 years and i love it

[@jackyausten4737]

I have tried to cut silver without any success using the correct metal blades , has any one got any tips ?

[@natedog3636whynot]

Jesus, I don't know why you guys are eating this guy alive. For what it's worth, I appreciated your review!

[@Mail2elr]

What has Jesus got to do with this you low life!

[@natedog3636whynot]

@@Mail2elr lol I don't even.

[@John-ls2kw]

Hmmm found this video useless. There much better ones on KZbin ! He should look at the manual, and not toss it away ( or look at one of the better KZbin videos) might help him put the blades in.

[@netmarketingdirect6910]

I think that the saw would have worked better if you attached it to the table with the G clamps facing the other way from underneath the saw. Rather than clamping it to a piece of wood

[@danielchunko6604]

I picked up this saw when I had to do a laminate kitchen floor for a customer and It worked well for the thickness of the planks. I think the vibration problem was more about how you had it mounted, I had it attached to the counter top and it was fine for me.. pros.. portable . lite weight, good for small cuts. cons,, to me the only problem is I can not go out and just buy blades for it. Dremel used a smaller blade than any other saw out there. so for the money spent you could add a few more dollars and get a cheap scroll saw if you were going to do a lot of scrolling, I do like the saw and only wish blades were available.

[@FloweringElbow]

Hi Daniel. Thanks for your mini review of this saw. Valid and good points all. I guess you must have had some intricate shapes to cut for the floor to make it worth it... How do you think it would have compared to using a jigsaw? Did you try using the saw without the base, in it's handheld mode? I haven't tried it that way, and wonder what it would be like. PS agree, I stuffed up the mounting, which was a cause of a good lot of the vibration...At some point when I have time I need to redo this review...

[@cyberherbalist]

I was considering getting this product, and I still might. If I had more than a small need, I would get a 50% more expensive one I saw on Amazon, which doesn't require clamping and does have a tilting table. Decisions, decisions. Thanks for a very good review!

[@flashcraft]

Audio is a bit up and down but I really appreciate the demonstration and especially putting the Moto-Saw to an extreme test with that large block of wood. Well done!

[@kyle9335]

Im glad I watched this before wasting my money on one. I get really depressed over the quality of pretty much everything nowadays. This is certainly another example. Greedy corporate assholes making their products out of cheaper and more inferior materials every year. Yet they charge more for them than ever. What happened to quality? Everything is shit now. Most of the time you'll be lucky if the product functions as intended let alone lasts for more than a couple uses

[@FloweringElbow]

Hi Kyle, thanks for taking the time to comment. There certainly are plenty of poor products out there, aren't there. I guess that's one of the great things about making your own tools. You get to choose and own all the compromises that inevitably get made… Thanks again, Bongo.

[@maninderjeetbook]

Quality is due to 'made in china'

[@davedaniels8211]

Good video . Thanks . I thought this Dremel would be rubbish and wasn't wrong . For the same money buy a scroll saw from Aldi (German supermarket). Its filling a niche market gap , where no gap exists . And whats with the 2 pin socket ? Cheap tat ! Cheers from 🇬🇧

[@danharold3087]

When a saw cuts the chips collect in the gullets between the teeth. When trying to cut thick stock with a scroll saw only a few teeth on the top and bottom of the stock get a chance to empty their gullets. The rest fill up and keep the teeth away from the stock. I have an old low end delta scroll saw from the 80's. It has a heavy cast iron table but unless it is firmly bolted down its vibrates too much to work on too. But yeah just say no to plastic saws.

[@FloweringElbow]

Yep, love it - great explanation of the teeth problem! "Just say no to plastic saws." Chuckle.

[@ptabz3112]

Good point about chip clearance.thanks

[@mariogutierrez3432]

As far as it being a good saw maybe for an amateur hobbyist but for a professional scroll saw artist this wouldn't do well at all .thanks for the review 😁

[@TheSuppressFurry]

5:05, you put the clamps in the little slots you had them in before but from the front side not the back.

[@FloweringElbow]

Worked that out right after putting the vid out. Doh.

[@zs1dfr]

And this simple action makes the saw much more stable on the table, if you'll pardon the alliteration! Also, I believe you can put the blade in at 90 degrees to the position you showed it, and thereby cut longer items along the side of you bench. Your method of attaching it to a piece of wood jutting out from your bench gave it NO chance of proving any stability. Not a fair review!

[@dacentabaal]

Also I've been thinking of getting one to cut my high density eva foam for my foam armour builds

[@FloweringElbow]

Lucas, I suspect it would cut that quite well but may leave a ragged edge?

[@angelamcdonagh1026]

I have one it’s ok for light thin wood, changing the blade is a pain in the arse

[@MacStrange]

Thanks i will build my version

[@Lloyd.B.]

You could do with sorting out the audio levels, they are all over the place. I had to turn down the volume for the machine noise and then it's impossible to hear what you are saying, so had to turn it up, and down and up etc.

[@FloweringElbow]

Thanks for the feedback Lloyd 😀

[@macrumpton]

It is strange that this thing exists. For about $100 (about the same cost as the Moto Saw in the US) you can get a new cheap but far more serviceable scroll saw. Or for about the same price you could get a RotoZip, a small router that also works better than this toy.

The problem with Moto saw is that it accepts only Dremel blades which are crazy expensive outside the US.

[@jjvirella5754]

You have the saw attached to the table wrong

[@patriciayoung6593]

THANK YOU FOR DOING THE VIDEO

[@robertlangley258]

PATRICIA YOUNG ......”please.” This Guy is a joke, the beginning of the video should have prepared you for what was coming next. Use your common sense if there’re available.

[@deepdiver849]

Thanks for this review! You reckon this can cut a 1mm copper sheet ?

[@FloweringElbow]

I suspect so - with the right blade.

[@edumemox]

Tenias que bajar la prensa, le falto estabilidad a la cierra. Por eso el resultado defectuoso en los cortes de corazón

[@yubidubi]

Great video.

[@danielmcnamara897]

Clamps are to go on table from the front

[@weldmama]

i think you may have put the blade in upside down - the little tbar pin should go in the bottom section and the plain end up the top. i dont think it is locked in properly which is also why you are getting a lot of vibration, it not cutting properly - quite risky running it like that

[@FloweringElbow]

Thanks for this Ruth. You can only put the blade in the way up i had it since the teeth will not cut the other way... I'm using the blades that came with the tool.

[@smartrajful]

The blade insertions are correct... but it doesnt give a straight cut... i actually bought it to cut pcb but it cannot do my job

[@nicks_mix]

A scroll saw by any other name... I don't really see an advantage to this, I had a good scroll saw with a nice quick release fitting for the blades. I'll look for one of those.

[@KevinWiebeJ]

I have owned one of these saws for almost 3 years now and outside it being portable it is a POS in my opinion and since bought a 16" Ryobi scroll saw which is a much better saw.The dremel has been sitting collecting dust for just as long(3 years,made approx. 2 hours worth of cuts)...never again dremel.And the clamps can also go in from the front onto your bench that way you can sit and do your cuts...

[@FloweringElbow]

Thanks Kevin, I agree with you! Realised the clamping thing right after putting the video out...

[@HJKelley47]

Kevin: Do you plan on selling your Dremel Moto-Saw kit?? I am looking to get one for hobbyist wood work, and not for 2-3" hardwood work. Also would like to ask, would a cast iron table be required to cut 1/4-1" wood??

[@FloweringElbow]

Hi Kelley. Cast iron table would not be required but would make it better. I can't recommend this saw for 1 " thick stuff but it would do it. I would like to sell, but I fear you are probably the other side of the pond?

[@HJKelley47]

Yes, I am on the other side of the pond. Up early this morning preparing to purchase the Moto-Saw. I am looking to make puzzles, and smaller hobby type items. I had also given thought to purchasing a Harbor Freight scroll saw, however, do not have the space to secure it to minimize vibration.

[@FloweringElbow]

Good luck with it!

[@snakebait5118]

Thanks for the video, but I'll stick with my DeWalt DW788. I'd be hard pressed to say I've seen anything better!

[@snakebait5118]

@Lord Jock 😁😁

[@snakebait5118]

@Lord Jock I sure hope to hear from you again sir! I appreciate Dremel tools also! I was surprised to see they came out with a portable scrollsaw and I liked your video! I needed a deep throat scrollsaw to replace my Craftsman Contractor Series that went on the fritz. The DW788 has a tilting upper arm that shortens the time to re-locate the blade in your project. That was a big seller for me so I started saving money, (at that time they were close to $800) but my wife went on Amazon and bought me one for Christmas. That was back in 2012. Now they're half that price! Keep the vids coming brother! Show some of your projects!

[@tassie7325]

Hard to take a review serious when presented by a person that can't be bothered to read the instructions.

[@samsaville8472]

Wow, I didn't realise just how much like a sewing machine this would seem like - how does it compare to the scroll-saw sewing machine from way back when? I love you too, good job I don't go by the full name ;)

[@robertlangley258]

Sam Saville .....yikes!, what’s wrong with you man?

[@garygullikson6349]

This product is obviously intended for thin sheet plywood, basswood, or other hobby and craft materials. It is not a precision and durable power tool intended for heavy continuous usage like table scroll saws costing much over $200. Expert woodworkers would know not to buy inexpensive light duty products like this for their own continuous use.

[@LoriUren]

I watched another video saying the same things about the blades and the bouncing. I don't think I'll buy this one. I love dremel tools.

[@ganeshjangid706]

price

[@HJKelley47]

This machine is meant to cut up to 3/4" woods.

[@maxpolaris99]

nice vise!

[@smckee9063]

I have a 16 inch RBI Hawk. I found that the larger blades do a really bad job and should only be used for larger opening because they don't turn well (understatement). If you want to do smaller things you need to get thinner blades. PS mine came with larger blades and they are useless for my needs. PSS- you should be able to adjust the tension on the blade. When you did the thick block your tension was way to loose.

[@tecnoplus563]

Hola, es de origen china?

[@deandee8082]

I need to make an adjustable fence, for cutting precise widths, the material I am working with is very costly and making mistakes is not an option, wooly mammoth tusk, I picked up a few pounds of scraps for guitar nuts and saddles, many of the pieces I can get 2 nuts out of 1 piece, or that s the plan because I am not sure I will ever have access to anything like this ever again, its quite rare, quite old and in very very good condition amazing actually.. I shaped and cut one acoustic nut out of a piece that was the real close to the size I needed and its well worth the effort and tooling, specially after buffing... mammoth tusk has its own unique ID or fingerprint and cannot be mistaken for elephant if you know what to look for, its grai is more zig zaggy compared to elephant that is straighter, under a magnifying glass its unmistakable and all of this is indeed mammoth and 110% legal and legit.. the reason I got this dremel is due to the small blade width, a table saw blade is just too wide and wastes too much material, again its very expensive and rare, so rare I will be collecting the dust ina sterile container that can be used in repairs so forth.. onto the issue of the table, the guides, I picked up are only adjustable in one direction, the distance the "mitre" fence is away is fixed, but it slides front to back? why its this way I dunno, seems unusable unless you have something that just happens to be that distance needs to be cut square? since I have two I was thinking about modding the table and putting one in perpendiculare and cutting them away where they intersect which is how this should have been done, a fence for both directions they wont move the material with a 90 degree fence closer or further away from the blade which is what I need.. if anyone has found a way to cut material in widths of say 1/16th to like on 1" with a fence that keeps the cut straight please let us know... TY, Dee

[@davidr6585]

This and so many similiar videos, well, products shown in the videos is beginning to remind me of back in the 70's when AMF took ownership of Harley Davidson and cheapened the hell out of the brand, that is... "let's see how cheap we can build this 'thing' and still encourage people to hand over the money for even though it's a plasticky piece of crap". Great video by the way, thank you Elbow.

[@FloweringElbow]

'preciate that David. Thanks for watching and commenting ;)

[@jlrosel9208]

You're a good man. Your video showed me exactly what I wanted to know - that's to go with a better product. I love the Dremel rotary tools and their Mini Max. Will definitely go elsewhere for a scroll saw. Keep the faith and good work. I subscribed.

[@drumsju91]

Can he cut metal ? :)

[@E-BikingAdventures]

Most people just want to see how the product performs, not watch 4 mins of someone bubbling around trying to assemble it without even reading the manual. You didn't even have an outlet to plug it into.

[@FloweringElbow]

You are probably right. I guess this is not a channel for 'most people'...

[@E-BikingAdventures]

+FloweringElbow. You should put a disclaimer in the title. "Dremel Moto-Saw Review. - Not for most People".

[@kentowakai1234]

Rebrand it Fischer Price and it might be more appropriate. Oh yeah, I did really well at not screaming with the set-up mistakes. Are you proud of me? The clamps go under in front not from behind.

[@FloweringElbow]

Fischer Price - chuckle. Very proud! Realised the clamps thing immediately after posting video, I was screaming at myself! sigh!

[@Lemzati.]

Hi, you did not put the saw on a table, you put it in a very thin pice of wood! This is why it trembles! I use mine and I Love it! With different woods and raven ironwood !

[@FloweringElbow]

Hi Lemzati. It wasn't THAT thin... Either way I subsequently clamped it to the work bench with no noticeable reduction in vibration...

[@Guitarooster52]

Thanks for the review. Looks like something that would quickly earn its place in a trash bin

[@FloweringElbow]

Haha. Only if you have other options for scroll saw work I suppose...

[@KellanMeigh]

RTFM, buddy. If you're not familiar with a tool and its intended purpose, get familiar first. Don't put down a fine power tool just because you don't understand its capabilities. The only real issue with that saw is the cost of the blades.

[@fabianarias1027]

I have several dremel products, this particular one in my experience sucks, I do not recommend it, do not throw your money away.

[@lauracullen8122]

Never had a Dremel anything that was even worth the cardboard box it came in. Always calling the coroner for an autopsy.

[@aerofly2]

My one criticism.......RTFI !!

[@smartrajful]

Not good... the blade dont give straight cut it bends

[@000BSA000]

You might want to equalize your audio, it was all over the place. Not a complaint but a tip.

[@FloweringElbow]

Good Morning Brian, Thank you for the tip friend, appreciate that. Bongo.

[@000BSA000]

@@FloweringElbow Just trying to help, I had the same problem when I first started editing video. I thought everything was at the same level a nephew helped me out.

[@FloweringElbow]

@@000BSA000 thanks. What program do you use for it?

[@000BSA000]

@@FloweringElbow I use a number of free app depending on what they are good at. Last one I use3d was VSDC Free Video Editor it lets you normalize the audio. You can download it at majorgeeks.com.

[@FloweringElbow]

@@000BSA000 Thanks a lot. I will check it out.

[@7sulzer]

Exept vresatip gas soldering Iron all the other tools from dremel are quite useless.

[@robertdaly6209]

It's looks good but, I think if I were to get one I'd get a real one.

[@FloweringElbow]

Hi Robert. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Reasonable conclusions ;)

[@MulderXfile]

I love my dremel tools but this saw is not worth the money. I bought it to cut printed circuit boards with and the blades just doesn't last.

[@ninamcrae7295]

but to be fair , the blades have nothing to do with the scrollsaw itself not being a good product.. you can purchase better blades of your choice. I have one and for smaller jobs this worked great

[@HunGredy]

No shit, not even a dewalt or metabo would last cutting pcb-s. Those are meant to be cut with special diamond coated tools that are not available for many tools. The blades for this dremel are for simple materials like aluminum, plastics and wood, not composites that eat up almost anything.

[@lynngodden6436]

You had decided you didn't like it before it before you even used it.

[@FloweringElbow]

Maybe I had. Material choice and stink do play a part in human experience....

[@The_Joker_]

A gimmick folks. Seriously don’t waste your money.