How To Design Effective Exercise Programs | Pat Davidson PhD

Pat Davidson, PhD is a Strength and Conditioning Coach, author, lecturer, and creator of the Rethinking the Big Patterns exercise certification. Pat has been a professional MMA fighter, world top 10 strongman finisher, and college professor. Pat's primary interests are biomechanics, strength, speed, hypertrophy, and developing intelligent algorithms for program design and exercise selection.
In this episode we discuss:
• How to design an exercise program that works for your goals not someone else’s
• Where is the fitness industry heading?
• The game changing new way to approach movement for more effective training
• What’s the world’s greatest medicine?
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[@shelly7017]

I appreciate you having this conversation. You guys gave me a couple of new tools for my toolbox. Thank you. 😉

[@jasonwaters382]

As soon as he referred to the general public as "low hanging fruit" I thought "this is not a nice guy". But once he started to tell his story, I had nothing but compassion for this guy. Given where he is from, he is doing amazingly well. Very tough background and he has done so much to make the best for himself and a contribution. Respect.

[@Jerry_TheFitnessMessiah]

Don’t be so quick to judge

[@iempower53]

All I can say is .. what an amazing human he is. Strength of character and determination are apparent. Know thyself .. is KEY in making one’s way in the world. Thanx for your sharing. 🌷

[@rubenmatossoto6801]

I love your channel and your muscle theories. In fact I always listen to all of your videos. But this video is too long (almost 2 hours). Too much theorical knowledge but too little practicality. Iwas excited when I read the title of the video, but after listening to the entire video I got extremely disappointed. Felt like I wasted my time. High level knowledge that cannot be transmitted in an efficient an effective manner to others is only useful for himself. Maybe a warning at the beginning of the video to indicate that this video is only useful to fitness and medical professional would have saved the time of many listeners. However, I admire what this gentleman has achieved in his life. That is inspiring.

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

RUBEN MATOS SOTO - I won't say what I really think about Dr. R's attitude towards well...humans, in general.... bc I may be entirely wrong. Plus, I thoroughly dislike it when folks watch an interview of someone in a podcast, then offer up their judgemental opinion of that person like it's objective fact. I agree w/you. The childhood adversity & trauma he has overcome is admirable. It appears, (imo) that he has not escaped his troubled childhood psychologically/emotionally unscathed, though. (who of us have? - and for much milder parental 'transgressions'...like we were forced to go to church on Sunday, or we were imbued with the 'children should be seen and not heard' stricture that made us feel inferior. He must have had one helluva strong will not to have succumbed to the usual pitfalls and minefields of his unfortunate early life. His numerous comments liking humans to apes and chimps, though... I sorta wonder what he thinks, deep down, about the average person. References more than once, also, to Frankenstein's monster (?) Could these comments be indicative of some sort of Freudian slip about his feelings toward his fellow man? 🤷‍♂️ idk, but I've found this all to be very interesting, to say the least. 🤔 8 think he's authored a book on fitness, or exeecise physiology(?) Do I have that right? I'd rather check it out prior to purchasing.

[@latashathompson-montoya3092]

I really enjoyed this podcast. It gives me inspiration and motivation seeing what an overcomer of drug addiction can accomplish. I am three years sober am really so grateful for all the guidance and blessings as well as the strength to remain sober. Thank you.

[@jasonbeck6020]

Congratulations on your sobriety 💪 I am 1004 days sober myself 🙏🇮🇹

[@emptynester9241]

One Day At A Time❤

[@AndrewPuentesFilms]

I was waiting for the practical application part of the conversation so I could implement some changes into my current exercise program… 😐

[@ABAdams]

He just yacks?

[@LarryChi-vr7xx]

@@ABAdams The vid is titled How To Design An Effective Exercise Program. Quite the oversell. Of course, I knew going in that there's no way to design an effective program without individual dialogue. Still disappointed Gabrielle Lyon would market using this title.

[@nikosrosos5180]

Blah blah, more than one hour and speak really generally, hasn't Said anything yet I am more patient than I thought,

[@awesomesauce3110]

D-bag response from a Beta.

[@MrTmartin01]

This was a big letdown. I was excited when reading the title of the podcast but I got very little from this one.

[@georgekakos9081]

This guy should be a politician,many words but not really saying anything

[@ryanvorster3556]

LMAO

[@Christine-xs2of]

Couldn’t have agreed more. No practical implementation we can utilize on daily basis. Disappointed

[@FortheHealthofit.]

right?! Get to the point. No application possible.

[@klyphimortis]

my thoughts exactly

[@jpro8908]

Read smarter and don't waste almost two hours watching! Thanks mate!

[@MelanieSakowski]

Conceptual integrity; giving the power of autonomy back to the people.

[@anzaborrego399]

Thank you Dr. Lyon! I like this guy SO much. His attitude is great! Ready to learn here. Following!

[@TinaAnn.]

Dr Davidson has a lot of information to share. I can respect his journey and thank him for his courage and transparency. In my opinion, he is still evolving and wants to share with us. Most people are not open these days, we need to give them the space. Dr Lyon will have a part 2! ❤

[@reenajacob256]

For a novice weight lifter, there was nothing said here that was a good take away message. No practical advice on how to build an effective exercise regimen. He did say that you do not want to take on too high a load if you’re a beginner but that’s common sense.

[@LenkaSaratoga]

The guest is brilliant! 👍💚 I enjoy the talk tremendously! Dr Gabrielle, you are a wonderful hostess - such balanced approach, you ask questions, make parallels and are listening attentively. I have heard so many great guest struggling to finish their point because of frequent interruptions by other hosts who simply can’t contain themselves and interrupt.

[@jennym4127]

So far, lots of “I” speech! Talking a lot about himself. If this guy knows stuff about exercise, I wish he would talk about things the listener could do in an effective/health exercise program. Example: try this, this is how you try it, etc…. Interviewer needs to ask more specific questions. Maybe it gets better, later….

[@izm4life]

I ENJOYED Pat Davidson. Thanks from bringing him on.

[@bryceherring946]

Very interesting guy, smart too to have all of that physical and real world experience but also combine that with the academic credentials later on in life, he's not the typical cookie cutter PHD, smart guy and I enjoyed listening to him and share his story/knowledge.

[@xcessa]

It’s rare to listen to a podcast and hear something truly new. I loved hearing some of these ideas for the first time - thanks

[@petemalone7897]

Appreciate the backstory of the guest, Dr. Pat. He is very open and honest about his background and recovery, his motivations and the ways he transformed a very rough start in life to a present moment of high level functioning. I’ll learn from him…..

[@janinewest7676]

I’m waiting for information. He talks a lot but Dr Lyon can’t get a word in edgewise

[@privateerburrows]

At first sight I thought "muscle-bound", but after a few seconds I realized this was a real philosopher. Heck, Plato was called "plato" because he was big. I'd be curious to know what he thinks of Mike Mentzer's research, and HIT.

[@critterdude311]

Here's the deal... this guy is clearly intelligent, articulate, and knows his field of study at the highest levels. The problem I have with this guy, like virtually all of the fitness influencers, is that he is clearly on or has used PEDs in the past. And I'm not accounting all of his successful results to PEDs, but it IS a big difference maker, arguably bigger than anything you can do eating or training. It's disingenuous to not talk about the 800lb gorilla in the room as part of this discussion. And you might go, well why does it matter, who cares? And the answer to that is, it creates an UNREALISTIC level of expectations as to what is possible and achievable for your average person just looking to get in good physical shape and health. I don't want to hear it from people who are 'enhanced', because we aren't playing on the same field.

[@DamaniJones]

Very helpful for fitness professionals like myself. A bit deceiving to those who aren't lol

[@DeeFitnessLifeBze]

Aerobics was popular in the 80's with Jane Fonda, Gilad,. Dennise Austin's..

[@mysticalheart8107]

Great guest. Thanks for sharing yourself with us 🙏

[@edwhite2255]

Wow lots of time to not say very much.

[@sevbesimi823]

Maybe the title of the podcast should of been titled… just let’s chat 😅

[@adf2M]

I think he forgot about aerobics in the 70s and 80s

[@floydald]

No practical information for me.

[@Renejime9288]

I have to agree, it was more related to conceptual information rather than practical application. Somewhat disappointing the conversation drifted to something else

[@shuyingsha9023]

Why the host and guest have different chairs and the host sits taller . In our culture, it is. It respectful

[@MelanieSakowski]

“Basics + huge ROM, tight technique, and great effort make your shit grow.”

[@JLSGK]

I think that Dr. Davidson and his approach is amazing, but I’m a person whose mind works similarly-I like breaking complex things down and organizing the parts. Most of the negative comments are likely by people who only want to know the practical application. Maybe you can bring him back to do that.

[@Falconnner]

What a good interview 👏👏👏Industry truth itself. Thank you!

[@reubenandreessen2063]

I connected with this guy thank you for bringing him on.

[@gijoyjoy]

In the 70's and 80's Jack LaLane was a very popular exercise influencer. Not to mention Jane Fonda in the 80's. I don't recall exercise being considered such a foreign topic. I joined 24 Hr Fitness back in the 80's. In the early 70's we had athletic competitions in elementary school for some elite presidential medal, as I can barely recall. I never won it, so the memory is not real strong. No the science wasn't nearly as strong as now, but I never heard that exercise was going to enlarge your heart so you shouldn't do it.

[@BiomechanicalGorilla]

Sorry, IMHO someone should've stopped him wasting too much time on this a long time ago. Nothing new here, just an overly complex way of saying know your goals, choose your diet and training regime appropriately for your body type, goals, limitations and lifestyle. Nothing wrong with the message at all once you decipher it, but it's delivered in an overly detailed and idiosyncratic way with a lot of unnecessary terminology.

[@NAKMUAYACADEMY]

I have a question,since one of the most important aspects for longevity is hypertrophy training and if we train 3-4 times per week ,how much should we do zone 2 cardio and vo2max training to meet criteria for health and longevity? And would we do the cardio before or after weights?

[@emale03]

Dr. LYON has alot of charisma plus beauty and brains.

[@fysiologikwellness]

I found it very interesting. Very intelligent speaker. What a success story. Also hes built a taxonomy for training? He used Carolus Linnaeus, Systema Naturae as a template to build his program. 🤯

[@krisvette5874]

This guy's good. Standardisation and measured progress.

[@MotivLifter]

Someone needs to tell this guy humans were never chimps.

[@omilyn3127]

I like the way this guy thinks.

[@williamholten2088]

He is a great guest. His view of history is funny, however. He says that no one exercised in the 80's. I guess he doesn't remember Jane Fonda and the aerobics craze. Every park was full of joggers, skaters, and older people just walking. Olivia Newton John released her "Get Physical" single in 1981. The "Stop the Insanity" woman was on TV every night with her infomercials for a low-fat diet and exercise. John Travolta even made a movie called, "Perfect" in 1985 with Jamie Lee Curtis about the exercise craze. I'm older than Dr. Davidson, so his early memories are not quite as clear as mine evidently. After Arnold made Pumping Iron, people started lifting as a form of recreation. I was lifting in the early 1980's for sports, and I certainly wasn't alone.

[@chuckleezodiac24]

don't forget my favorite: Richard Simmons!

[@keithgriffiths9864]

Me too. I'm a 62yr old woman, and I was lifting weights by 1980. We called it Body Sculpture then, 2hich made it sound more feminine. My bf had a bull worker that he used in his bedroom every night 😊

[@davidcottrell1308]

This guy is a real brain!

[@Egyfitness]

She asked about TRX bands and he talks about evolution, Chimpanzees, Jacksonian Desolution. Answer the damn question man

[@shaunclubberlang2887]

Anything about the dosages he is on?

[@tommy92660]

Timed static conteactions for gods sake. Get Ken Hutchins on.

[@GuidetteExpert]

inflammation after a exercise is a natural thing so it can repair itself. When he said having to avoid that in exercise kind of lost me.

[@ForeverYoked]

This interview was amazing! I especially loved the part about the brain connections with movement. THIS is yet another example of the existence of God yet he is choosing to not consider this. Fabulous information.

[@audreybennati2618]

I worked out with weights in the 80’s in gyms full of people. There weren’t trainers like we know today, but we used weights and there were weight machines. Not sure which planet he was on? Why would he say this?

[@BeHealing]

Yes part 2 please!

[@myhumps2730]

Yum 😋 beef sticks 🐂

[@kadila14]

I am intrigued by what I hear and in particular the idea that we can select exercises tailored to our level of experience and body structure, etc. However I am not fully clear on what his system and general recommendations are that we can run with. Can someone summarize?

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

kadila14 - doubt it. Can't get there from here, imo. That's because he advocates for ultimate personalization. So, anyone who could summarize his system for you - would have to know you, your age, gender, physique, body structure, movement limitations, etc - basically YOUR physiology, mindset, environment, fitness goals... on & on. In other words - he HAS no generalizations to impart.

[@johnseddon7793]

Where does stamina come into play?🙏

[@TheCatseyepub]

why is she seated so much higher than him??

[@DrGabrielleLyon]

Thank you for your feedback! We are working on adjusting!

[@valentinepayne6464]

This guy is talking loud and saying nothing.

[@davidedsall9362]

too bad you can't listen he is spot on with science which is the best truth. opinion is so wrong

[@hi_saylee]

All I know is that Larry was a real one.. the way he went down on that zebra?! 47:04

[@waltermagee2305]

I would have appreciated less distraction with general philosophies of remotely related issues including biographical ones to more focus on specific exercise modalities explained in layman's terms that can be utilized post podcast. This was in my opinion, bloviation and a waste of time.

[@nicksainsbury696]

No practical information just reterick

[@NikolaTeslaEE]

This is where being so generic yield no practical info. What the heck was I supposed to learn from this. What was the takeaway?

[@JG-xr1zu]

Pat Davidson is smart and full of profound articulate words and really like to play intelligent, but can you just get to the point instead of throwing a lot of scientific words and intracellular theories and pillars of ideology in a complex world or simplistic way.

[@PhiyackYuh]

Yep so much jargon but no substance in it. Andy galpin is much better physiologist!

[@toreilly100]

Very intelligent Dude!!

[@myhumps2730]

Speaking of backstories, my dad and I were hobos and we lived in a dumpster until I was ten.

[@yanlongeats]

is that gonna be extra off upon the holiday discounts?

[@sevbesimi823]

She likes shorter men 😂

[@amalgamating]

Lmao where tf did this ramble to

[@d4v3-R0]

After 19 min, no information...very slow

[@toniwiding1331]

I think he needs to talk in more Laymans term. It seems like he is talking about most average people unless you’re a scientist.

[@davidedsall9362]

this the negative comments who can't grasp wha the is saying or are threatened by what he is say because they are in the training hype industry. I have had 4 trainers they are 100% opinion and no science and way off base for a 75 year old swimmer who needs to put on muscle. Way off base for swimmers in general or older folks in general

[@bobstokoe1332]

He sounds just like Joe Rogan !😅

[@Kitiwake]

He never took a roid in his life.

[@foxtrot111100]

Very intelligent man, however, was all that “Gobbledygook” for the initial 25 minutes really educational?…NO?? Further, it must be recognised that this guy is on PEDs or at the very least TRT! That being said…his narrative was quite interesting, Somewhat. I follow your channel incessantly, please keep ‘em coming! Thanks.

[@nancyj795]

59:10-59:35 Quotable.

[@Mariodbs62]

Still waiting on practical advice or information to use in my daily basic training. This is all esoteric rant not an educational video with specific instructions that may benefit an average listener.

[@robertthompson5501]

Blah blah blah. "Your speaking my language ". 🙏👹🏋

[@dallenwade]

"He doesn't know if he believes in God but the closest proximity would be progress". You are a "science" person and can't see the "progress" in nature. Intricate, complex, and purposeful molecular and biological systems did not come from random chance. That has been mathematically established. Since he is a historian, he might have heard of a man who had the ability/power to manipulate matter/creation any way he wanted like creating wine out of water, calming storms, or bringing dead bodies back to life. That god-man established a worldwide religion. We'd all like to think we can "see" what others don't...pick a topic, but all of us close our eyes and ears to what we are biased against whether it be a supernatural god or new contradictory health discovery.

[@emh8861]

That’s why I hate squats. It’s the dumb medicine.

I would never even listen an interview which is made in such an arrogant and egocentric attitude. Anyone who is accepting an interview from this person is clearly putting himself/herself in a place of disrespect! Why? Because making your invitate to sit in a chair clearly made to look inferior to you, even if maybe he has a lot of knowledge in front of you, and yours to be on a different level, by creating an artificial aura where you in your limited mind, would probably want others to think that you are superior to that person, even when that person is doing you a favor because he or she accepted to give you his/her time, and this is how you treat that person... it is a pure definition of an unmannered person. When you invite someone in your house you make that person feel happy and well treated. No need to talk about the non-elegant environment wich gives you the impression that you made it in the garage of an abandoned hospital... I dont think it is a matter of money, only about taste, education and moral views. Inviting quality persons can actually make your channel to grow, but clearly this is not a good example of journalism or a podcast who respects broadcast etiquette principles, of a well designed message to be shown to the world. ”The guest is brilliant”. Yeah. A GUEST!!! Ask Mr. Ben Saphiro or Jordan Peterson if they would accept to be treated like this...

[@chuckleezodiac24]

give Dr. Lyon a break. she's only 5'1 and is insecure about her lack of height.

[@formxshape]

He needs to buy a shirt one size larger 😅

[@chuckleezodiac24]

but we won't be able to tell that he works out -- if he buys a larger size shirt!

[@jennyjohnston1993]

N this guy is supposed to be smart....REALLY what the he'll is he even talking about......I'm glad he's not training me l wld be so confused 🤪

[@oscarc2286]

Too many informacials

[@1icestone]

A lot a lot of bla bla bla No actual implementation

[@alibabets]

Didn't take a useful, practical clue to design a better workout. This people just aren't practical and paradigmatic.

[@butterflywings8332]

Usually I love your interviews Dr. G but where did you find this guy? He’s so full of himself it’s not funny! I am a one of many PT’s working at our local gym along with exercise physiologist and I have to say all my colleagues are very knowledgeable in their field. I did a 2 year diploma along with training in yoga and pilates both taking a year to complete. My colleagues specialise in other areas but they are very professional and know what they are doing. Also, absolutely not true about what he is saying about exercise being “new”. I remember my mum exercising when I was little doing the 80’s aerobics with dumbbells. My grandma who is 96 has exercised all her life and she has always said that is the elixir of youth (along with cold showers). Maybe in America it is new but in Europe people have known exercise is healthy for centuries. The arrogance is distasteful. This guy thinks he’s revolutionising the fitness industry? 🤦‍♀️

[@davidedsall9362]

all opinion and no science try trainer does not even know which muscles do which exercise many still do passive stretching which give more injury and less performance even if no injury DR Davididson is spot on.

[@kellyrose7407]

Too bad he’s so smart! Too much intellectual talk and not to the point! 😮

[@ericbarry3639]

Have no idea what this guy is saying , painful to listen too

[@TheCadborosaurus]

Another sob story, sad times.

[@worldchanges10]

Another talking over

[@colong1158]

This doctor is a little .............

[@fainakleitman6856]

OMW🤢

[@jcgoogle1808]

Goodphecking lord an hour and a half for a discussion on "how to design an effective exercise program"??? This isn't rocket science,.. and yet they waste an hour and 30 minutes on minutia,.. to try to make it sound so academic. A previous video they talked about several papers disputing how to measure muscle change as a result of working out. Ya know if you're not sure on how to measure,.. they rest of the "test" is usueless. Here's an idea,... if you train to look better, then physical changes shouldn't be that hard to measure,... key word measure,.... as in tape measure. And this guy is clearly taking steriods of some kind. That's how you "train smarter,.. not harder"???? Of course you'll cause other damage to your body and health,.. but at least your didn't train harder.