MW3 In Depth - Helicopter AI

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@gobeaturmomsmeat
@gobeaturmomsmeat 9 жыл бұрын
I doubt you'll ever see this Drift but I literally come home from work an watch your old in depth videos because you explain things very well to where even someone at an elementary level could understand
@akatsuki_silva
@akatsuki_silva 8 жыл бұрын
Fact nr. 1: It always goes for me.
@stryderzer0
@stryderzer0 7 жыл бұрын
Fact nr. 2: I sexually identify as one
@Dank_Dank
@Dank_Dank 6 жыл бұрын
stryderzer0 So now there's 3 genders?
@timothywilliams7243
@timothywilliams7243 8 жыл бұрын
The AI is programmed to forget everyone on the enemy team and just go for me
@mr.toebean2604
@mr.toebean2604 4 жыл бұрын
Timothy Williams stop
@pmaccarone
@pmaccarone 11 жыл бұрын
Players are then filtered through threat checklist: Begin threat level is 0, if the distance between player and chopper adjusts adjust threat level, if the player is attacking the chopper = threat level is 100, multiply the player's current score by 4 = current threat level, if the player was already assaulted on = add anti-threat value, if the anti-threat value becomes less than 0, threat level is 1. It adds up all these values to and attacks accordingly along the path. Hope that helps.
@Dank_Dank
@Dank_Dank 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Maccarone Wut
@dianrobertson2185
@dianrobertson2185 11 жыл бұрын
i love these commentaries that talk about game mechanics!
@Drift0r
@Drift0r 12 жыл бұрын
I'm aware. We tried two maps and ran about 5-6 tests of each variable on each map with all the rest held constant. Every single time the helicopter just went for the closest person. For each set we didn't test a lot but overall we called in around 20-30 choppers. Every single time without fail it just picked the closest to start shooting first. Of note, it didn't swap targets a lot. Tried to keep shooting that person until he died but that's really about it.
@NewZealandBoi11
@NewZealandBoi11 11 жыл бұрын
The reality of helicopter ai Top Priority: Me Mid Priority: Everyone else
@spudicous
@spudicous 12 жыл бұрын
driftor doing an in depth about EVERYTHING
@pmaccarone
@pmaccarone 11 жыл бұрын
Attack Helicopter and Pave Low acquire targets using the same set of code. The difference is their firing type. Attack Helicopter uses a simple turret code with a convergence mod to close in the on the player's position as it shoots, with a clip size of 40 and a random pause of about 0.5-2 seconds per clip fired. Pave Low uses essentially Sentry Gun burst firing modes on each side with a minimum shot amount of 40, and a maximum amount of 80, each with a pause of 1-2 seconds between firing.
@pmaccarone
@pmaccarone 11 жыл бұрын
Targets are acquired for each player in the game that the turret can target, it balances the following factors: If the player is alive, if the turret can target the player's position, if the distance between the player and chopper are under 3700 units, if the player is not on the chopper's team, if the player is not the chopper's owner, if the player has just spawned = give them 5 seconds of safety, if the player has the blind eye perk, if the turret can see 50% or more of the target...
@slykuiper
@slykuiper 12 жыл бұрын
Never though someone would be talking about AI in this game, useful tips from Drift0r once again :).
@driftydegree5624
@driftydegree5624 Жыл бұрын
Come back Driftor we still play MW3
@ggrant1189
@ggrant1189 12 жыл бұрын
This was an outstanding commentary--backed by outstanding personal research! This is the kind of info that I find useful, info that will help me be a more effective player. Thanks much and keep up the good work!
@lordgarold
@lordgarold 12 жыл бұрын
I am working on my own Helicopter AI code right now! This video is a goldmine of information. Thank you!
@MrSpartacus151
@MrSpartacus151 12 жыл бұрын
I gave you a like cause testing all those things cost a lot of time and your teammates' time. Ty man.
@Asiaroeschti
@Asiaroeschti 12 жыл бұрын
I like the rational approach towards the question.
@redpin6
@redpin6 12 жыл бұрын
Heres what the MW3 Heli A.I. feels like -Attack me -attack whoevers closest
@CasualVox
@CasualVox 12 жыл бұрын
Recon gives you a 5 second marking(like advanced uav) on any enemy you hit with an explosive( tactical, lethal, noob tube, etc). Recon Pro does the same only it lasts 10 seconds instead of 5 and bullet damage marks them as well.
@zapper34567890
@zapper34567890 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome Driftor! You're still hanging out with the ASF crew!
@AsianNationGaming99
@AsianNationGaming99 12 жыл бұрын
Helis and AH-6 AI is very similar in that if you're not the closest, and you're shooting the enemy, they try to protect them. I've actually tested this quite a bit.
@TheCrimson451
@TheCrimson451 12 жыл бұрын
Cool. This was actually pretty helpful. Thank you Drift0r
@rostbeefsndwich
@rostbeefsndwich 11 жыл бұрын
Helicopters wont shoot across the map just to kill those selected targets. They do move though as I've observed if you shoot at it. Those perimeters are the perimeters used if your within the heli's range, of course.
@lordgarold
@lordgarold 12 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that too, I'll put that in the AI of my Helicopter code, thanks!
@OviWanKeno9i
@OviWanKeno9i 12 жыл бұрын
@Wolfie020 He finished engineering so he took at least one in depth course in statistics. Big difference between a commentator who is an engineer and one who hasn't even finished high school yet.. (like many on youtubers) I love the experiment-like approach he used.
@l00d3r
@l00d3r 12 жыл бұрын
Several things went backwards in MW3. For example, Theater Mode only lets you view action in first person mode for yourself; it won't allow it for other players. First person mode was a good tool in Black Ops to improve your game by watching the good players.
@kookverslaving
@kookverslaving 12 жыл бұрын
I sure did enjoy this commentary!
@GodelsPrison
@GodelsPrison 12 жыл бұрын
There was one other factor concerning helicopters that didn't get mentioned that I would suggest: level of engagement with an enemy player. Over the course of my playing I have noticed that when an enemy helicopter is out I seem to get killed much more frequently if I am actively engaging (shooting at) an enemy player, rather than simply running around. Perhaps the helicopters have a built in priority clause that attacks those who are attacking?
@Jimbob1337
@Jimbob1337 12 жыл бұрын
with regards to attack choppers and AH-6s, they will not attack a person who shoots them with a SMAW or grenade launcher, instead going for the closest non BE enemy. If you shoot them with a stinger, it has no flares and takes 1 stinger to kill. pave lows require 2 stingers and WILL attack the person who just shot the stinger at them if they are the closest non BE enemy. Escorts will only attack if you are within a specific radius, it will not attack those that are far away. BTW, preds kill all!
@elmatadoryt8555
@elmatadoryt8555 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, some things I didn't know here.
@mahilo3550
@mahilo3550 12 жыл бұрын
So yeah, the full game commentary is better in some situations, but you should still have clips of certain aspects of the game mechanic/weapon/perk/etc. It makes for better understanding among most.
@Plokijuh1229
@Plokijuh1229 12 жыл бұрын
Review the overlooked proficiencies, such as Breath, Melee, and Stability
@kutter131
@kutter131 12 жыл бұрын
do maps in depth. On every map, tell how you can play it to its strenghts. Best strategy to win domination (A + B, A + C, B +C), demolition (A first, B first), drop zone (places you can be hidden on the dropzone, laying in the train on underground or in the right corner on the first dropzone in resistance (the house near garden))
@kamiljerzykarmel
@kamiljerzykarmel 12 жыл бұрын
my idea to fix the problem with ppl not picking up tags is to make one kill score as half of point streak and picking up tag another half so if you are killwhore and you are not picking up tags you will have to double the number of your kills to get ur killstreak and if you are objective player you can get pointstreaks for just picking up tags and not neceserly killing anybody(sry for bad english)
@whodatwindat
@whodatwindat 12 жыл бұрын
no im talking about mw3 has cod4 prestige emblems and thats what you get with 1000 kills with a heli is the emblem from cod4
@ChipotleSauceBestSauce
@ChipotleSauceBestSauce 12 жыл бұрын
CM901 on Survival is pretty powerful, and it has a fast reload.
@bmanngaming
@bmanngaming 12 жыл бұрын
because pave lows are built for huge domination and destruction attack heli is built for support
@MrCakeyable
@MrCakeyable 12 жыл бұрын
At least he went for a lot of tags at the end.
@Zmal93
@Zmal93 12 жыл бұрын
Ac130 is death if you are really good at it, but personally I always do this: I shoot the 105 at a group of 2-3, but since it takes a few seconds to hit the ground my mind automatically says "Oh shit I missed" and I shoot 2 or 3 bullets of the 40mm at the same place, wasting my shots. Ac130, like the reaper, travels in a circle and one some maps that sucks you get horrible angles against buildings. The pavelow flies around slowly AND can carefully aim and kill people inside buildings.
@theUN4GIVEABLEdolphi
@theUN4GIVEABLEdolphi 12 жыл бұрын
Helicopter AI: Attack Players Who Play The Objective. Seems fair and rewarding.
@MusicalWarfare2
@MusicalWarfare2 12 жыл бұрын
Blind Eye will always keep you off of everything, however, sometimes you can be caught in the crossfire of a helicopters spray when it's aiming at somebody near you.
@wallie1994
@wallie1994 12 жыл бұрын
Its quite funny that the whole episode is about 9 minutes, and the only heli outcome is that it attacks the closest it sees :p
@lokee40
@lokee40 12 жыл бұрын
Good info Drift0r.... I always thought that it just came after the player with the highest score.
@Andos2325
@Andos2325 12 жыл бұрын
Attack heli needs a small buff or added flares. I see so many shot down before they even get to the map.
@Varanusindicus
@Varanusindicus 12 жыл бұрын
in mw2 and black ops they at least had it to where you had to be in front of it to shoot you, so if you stayed behind it you were also hidden, but they really messed it up in this game so it could shoot you from any angle as long as there is open sky above your head, making it a necessity to run and go hide in a building and be bored for the duration its up, or waste your perk spot on blind eye
@Soupaboii
@Soupaboii 12 жыл бұрын
@ELGAM3ER if you shoot down a pavelow it brings out flares u can see if u try too shoot one with a stinger etc. the flares trick the missle to go down (opposite direction) and the reason y its soo long to shoot down is bcas its like a juggernaut but in helicopter mode
@Jynacyde19
@Jynacyde19 12 жыл бұрын
whenever there's a heli, it always goes after me when i have the highest score on my team and running constantly when im far away from it
@RickMerchantttt
@RickMerchantttt 12 жыл бұрын
I think he's simply talking about the AI of the chopper from CoD4. Like, they took the AI system from the attack chopper from CoD4 and used it for the Pave Low. Fairly certain that's all he means.
@SmokingCrop
@SmokingCrop 12 жыл бұрын
the chopper doesn't go for the closest one, it goes after the first one in the party... i can know..
@SapphireMedal
@SapphireMedal 12 жыл бұрын
The way the Predator works is it spawns closest to the team it's coming from. So if your the furthest person away from the enemy team thats usualy where the predator "Pre-Aims" itself. So if your not constantly behind enemy lines and a predator appears it will most likely go to the noobs rushing an open area or campers in the spawn. Hope that helped somebody :)
@gdcrisanto
@gdcrisanto 12 жыл бұрын
Just one suggestion for the next in depth: movement speed while ads for every weapon
@TheUKNutter
@TheUKNutter 11 жыл бұрын
Low K/D players will mainly be carrying launchers ready to shoot those heli's down for their (or your) team. I'd advise attacking both.
@VisitingBoss
@VisitingBoss 12 жыл бұрын
"helicopter wont even notice being shot" well my one has feelings you know
@koji8123
@koji8123 12 жыл бұрын
There wasn't blind eye or scrambler in cod4. Use either one and you WILL NOT be targeted. Or, as you said, find cover. I'm pretty sure every map has somewhere with a ceiling on it in MW3.
@tkdfighter0214
@tkdfighter0214 12 жыл бұрын
alright, i just subed to you today and your amazing. deserve way more than 68,782 views.
@gold3263301
@gold3263301 12 жыл бұрын
It's basically Stopping Power for one kill. So probably not very useful, unless you want a one-shot kill anywhere to the body with a sniper rifle.
@SuperHumblewarrior
@SuperHumblewarrior 12 жыл бұрын
YEAH! He gave Oregon a shoutout. XD
@gold3263301
@gold3263301 12 жыл бұрын
1) Were you near someone that didn't have Blind Eye? 2) Was it, in fact, an Attack Helicopter/Pave Low, and not a player controlled killstreak? (i.e. AC-130, Osprey Gunner)
@benjalazo
@benjalazo 12 жыл бұрын
And that is why the helicopter in MW3 is so good.
@TimmyLongBalls
@TimmyLongBalls 12 жыл бұрын
Wow really? I'm glad you told everyone! I'm sure no one here already knew that!
@VaultCon
@VaultCon 12 жыл бұрын
I believe that too, i've seen preds skip groups of people to come after me i started running the trophy system on classes i have quickdraw pro on so that i can put one down as soon as i see it on the mini map, i have destroyed hundreds of predators since i started doing this.
@SpartanDusk
@SpartanDusk 12 жыл бұрын
You forgot one, if you stand near a scrambler, the AI Choppers are blinded, as well as the Pred Drone, Reaper, AC130. Basically, scrambler will work similarly with Blind Eye.. xD
@BlastedMind
@BlastedMind 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always!
@SuperLetterbomb
@SuperLetterbomb 12 жыл бұрын
no, everybody would rage about it but who thinks rational about getting killed. it's not about deserving it or getting punished for earning points, it's about being a primary target because appearing dangerous. anyway, I see your point and it's clear that nobody would accept being killed because of his points whether low or high. So, the whole idea of attacking low/high scorers is kind of unjust and shouldn't be a part of the factors the heli AI regards.
@MatchResults
@MatchResults 12 жыл бұрын
bcuz when you call in an AC-130 you are stuck controlling it, but when you call in a Pavelow you can be on the ground and do work while ur pavelow does work
@DonMezzo
@DonMezzo 12 жыл бұрын
In MW2 it seemed like the AI killstreaks (especially the Harrier) would stop whatever it was doing and attack me if I tried to lock-on with a stinger.
@SacredBlazeXxX
@SacredBlazeXxX 12 жыл бұрын
Impressive, I learned a lot with this video drift!
@iizk47x
@iizk47x 12 жыл бұрын
very nice video driftor keep it up
@Skankhair333
@Skankhair333 12 жыл бұрын
The Attack Heli and Pave Low have different AI. The Pave Low will attack anyone that shoots at it. Perhaps the Pave Low has the same AI from CoD 4, while the Attack Heli has been slightly nerfed to be less intelligent.
@lordgarold
@lordgarold 12 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression I had a lot of code to do. After watching your video I realise there's a lot less going on. Do you have any suggestions on how you would like the AI to operate?
@deathbyclaw
@deathbyclaw 12 жыл бұрын
@Drift0r if you have an objective, say a bomb or the flag in capture the flag it will attack you first. The same goes for if you are planting the bomb or capturing the flag in domination. I just thought you should know this even though you gwt about 20000 of these a day.
@Skankhair333
@Skankhair333 12 жыл бұрын
I didn't say it was. You must be confused. In CoD4 the attack helicopter used a similar AI to what the Pave Low has in MW3. The Attack Heli in MW3 has nerfed AI. I didn't say the CoD4 helicopter was a Pave Low. I said the Pave Low uses the AI from CoD4. It does.
@ColossalCrib
@ColossalCrib 12 жыл бұрын
I love having my AH6 And pave low up together...
@Wolfie020
@Wolfie020 12 жыл бұрын
I actually did, and it turned out he didn't meet the recommendation as I recall. I'm not saying he is wrong, I was just wondering if he met the usual conditions of performing and experiment.
@paco111ification
@paco111ification 12 жыл бұрын
The pavelow does go for whoever is attacking it first...
@ADRIANTHO831
@ADRIANTHO831 12 жыл бұрын
Hey Drift0r, i remember watching my 1st vid in your channel back in the mw2 days and you went over that in mw2 if you had the riot shield, the helicopters would just go 4 you no matter what. Does this also apply in mw3? I would check but i recently let my friend borrow it.
@wileymalachi
@wileymalachi 12 жыл бұрын
Best commentator ever
@ChipotleSauceBestSauce
@ChipotleSauceBestSauce 12 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the CM901 in Multiplayer. But the FMG9 tears apart Juggernaut's pretty fast
@nairbzaid
@nairbzaid 12 жыл бұрын
1:40 There was no perk that protected you from Heli's in CoD4. Just uav's.
@SuperKoreanGuy
@SuperKoreanGuy 12 жыл бұрын
Hey Drift, could you do a Knife In-Depth? What determines whether you lunge at the person or just a regular swipe. Like in the video earlier that guy panic knifed you and missed but he didn't lunge, other times people would lunge at you and what not. Thanks! :)
@buddhistgrandma
@buddhistgrandma 12 жыл бұрын
Can you test the predator missile "AI"? Meaning, is there a rhyme or reason as to where the pred missile spawns? I always do fairly well, and those pred missiles will spawn above me EVERY TIME. It feels like there is a correlation between score and where the pred missile spawns.
@HvHobbit
@HvHobbit 12 жыл бұрын
He was using a tactical insertion, that's why he spawned there.
@igotnoideawhattoput
@igotnoideawhattoput 12 жыл бұрын
My experience has always been that the heli would attack you next if you shoot at it.
@SleepIsForbidden
@SleepIsForbidden 12 жыл бұрын
also the predoator missles are being controlled by tac nayn
@ThexJaMzYx
@ThexJaMzYx 12 жыл бұрын
has anyone else noticed on certain maps staying still the heli wont kill you
@windlesstea
@windlesstea 12 жыл бұрын
driftor you forgot to tell us the damages of the helicopters and how long they shoot for and stay in the air and stuff
@TheMassgames
@TheMassgames 12 жыл бұрын
The AI has always me on the sight
@Zuxicovp1
@Zuxicovp1 12 жыл бұрын
Drift0r, I was in a ground war yesterday and the helicopter was shooting me when it was on the other side of the map, with teammates outside.
@MavicAVF
@MavicAVF 7 жыл бұрын
BO3's wraith just will not leave me alone
@SuperManGamer
@SuperManGamer 12 жыл бұрын
You're my favourite youtuber!
@TheSecondMC
@TheSecondMC 12 жыл бұрын
im not tryin to sound wierd, but this guy has a nice voice. Its the kind I can trust and listen to.:-)
@EnviousMrWizard
@EnviousMrWizard 12 жыл бұрын
No surprise COD4 Heli had a more complicated AI, it only competed with UAV and Airstrike as a killstreak. I wish there was a 3,5,7 only lobby with no blind eye, assassin, and lock on launchers.
@chrisrogers1229
@chrisrogers1229 12 жыл бұрын
hey cod community and developers i have some ideas. that might be interesting. 1. A new attachment for assault rifles called "mini gun" a small machine like pistol that you can attach to your rifle 2. unlock-able weapons, perks, and maps when you prestige (only). 3.Third person shooter game or mode 10/12 players 4.new weapons in general. 5.a online beginner mode for levels 1-10 6. A new kill streak call in Juggernauts and delta force online (cpu operated) 7 sentinel charge or timed bomb.
@joeyoh9292
@joeyoh9292 12 жыл бұрын
As "MW3 CHOPPERS ATTACK WHOEVER IS CLOSEST" appears onscreen, "DuMBiiT DoWn" starts talking. Dat_coincidence.
@TheSpurry
@TheSpurry 12 жыл бұрын
I don't know if ur serious but whatever, a pave low can take more hits and i think the pave low is more agrressive. It might last longer than the normal heli but i don't know.
@Wolfie020
@Wolfie020 12 жыл бұрын
I did watch the whole video. I was curious about how much of a knowledge base he has on Statistics and how well he performed the experiments as to reduce bias. Have you ever taken a Statistics class yourself?
@Rizz3n
@Rizz3n 12 жыл бұрын
How about you do an episode about prestiges? Like what you spent your tokens on etc.
@JCally83
@JCally83 12 жыл бұрын
i always think if your top of the leaderboard you are priority number 1 to be killed by the attack chopper, this happened to me in every COD game?
@laughfaster1
@laughfaster1 12 жыл бұрын
I thought KC went to 65. It does when I play. But that might just be on the elite playlist.
@TheRoboticAssassin
@TheRoboticAssassin 12 жыл бұрын
I think it was more robust in COD4 since it was the highest kill streak you could get.
@IndigoSolace
@IndigoSolace 12 жыл бұрын
i could have sworn if you shot a pave low, reguardless of how close you were, it would go after you
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