Drill Press Mortising made easy

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Mike Farrington

Mike Farrington

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In this video I show a neat way to cut a mortise with drill press and end mill.
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@davidkelly1634
@davidkelly1634 Жыл бұрын
The mag switch on the drill fence is a great idea. Thanks for the content.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have a video on my channel showing how I made the drill press table and fence if you are interested.
@Thundermuffin93
@Thundermuffin93 Жыл бұрын
This has got to be one of the most straightforward no crap woodworking videos I've watched in a long time. Thank you for a really sweet into the point demo of an awesome technique. New subscriber for sure!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Whitebassonly
@Whitebassonly Жыл бұрын
Mike’s pretty cool. You’ll like his videos and ingenuity.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
@@Whitebassonly Thank you, that is very nice to say.
@tbuc2920
@tbuc2920 Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing Andrew.
@jimwatson3779
@jimwatson3779 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeFarrington are these steel milling bits?
@justinsumersguy1104
@justinsumersguy1104 Жыл бұрын
20+ years using an overarm pin router, often mortising with it. Like you, I much prefer looking at and having full view of the cutting action. We used one inch mills occasionally but most often hss 3/8" upcut spiral bits. I've never seen these bits nor this technique before, thank you! Retired now with just a home shop, I'm sure I'll be using this technique soon! Most woodworking videos I've seen are done by 'performing' amateur woodworkers, often with little experience and talent. Many of these guys recommend "inexperienced" ideas along with "inexperienced" and frequently dangerous practices. You're one of a handful who are not. Thank you for sharing and posting!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. KZbin is certainly a tornado of competency levels.
@mattmicken6379
@mattmicken6379 Жыл бұрын
A heads up for anyone not familiar with end mills: they come in "center cutting" and "non center cutting" varieties. You'll need the center cutting variety to be able to plunge with it.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
This is a good tip, I will say, the vast majority of end mills in this size range are all center cutting. Non center cutting really comes into play in larger sizes.
@Ledgar69
@Ledgar69 Жыл бұрын
I know here in the UK at least they’re generally called a slot drill
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Жыл бұрын
they also come in a plunge cutting configuration called a Drill/Mill, very handy for plunging in and then milling, or chamfering an edge, but they do not leave a flat bottom.....due to the angle of the flutes on the end.....usually about 90 degree included angle
@billlichirie14
@billlichirie14 Жыл бұрын
Please, source of supply for roughing 4 fluted centering End Mill??
@dieSpinnt
@dieSpinnt Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip, Matt!:) The following is just a side-note, no fear-mongering, just a little smalltalk out of the engineering pocket:) Use it with your brain and not with your heart:P I think it is not worth mentioning that a drill press is named that way because of a reason and that there is that other mysterious thing one can vaguely imagine by your comment: The Milling Machine. The drill press is built for maximum forces towards the axial force of the drilling mechanism, meaning downwards, you drilling in the workpiece. The milling machine including its tool-holding can handle also radial forces, f.e. those in the X and Y direction of the milling machines table. This different operation area is achieved by a different design, other mounting mechanism and different bearings. You should look up exactly what bearing types your drilling press is equipped with when you are trying to "abuse" it as a milling machine. In doubt: Ask an expert. Or as we Internet-Folk like to say: Who cares? She needs new bearings anyway ... since years! Hehehe Have fun making!:)))
@WoodShopStop
@WoodShopStop 11 ай бұрын
Great video! I was a machinist for more than 15 years and I have journeyman's card. Worked at an aerospace company using steels and aluminum as well as titanium. So I'm very familiar with the end mills. We called the roughing end mills "hog mills"because they would hog out tremendous amount of material and then we'd follow up with the finish end mills for a smoother finish. This was all done on CNC four and five axis machines. I often wondered how the Mills would work for wood. You have answered that question in my mind. And now I have to try it, I like it. Thanks for the video.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing, good stuff.
@paullasko2023
@paullasko2023 Жыл бұрын
You are a fantastic teacher! I'd heard of an end mill, but wasn't quite sure of its purpose. Thanks for showing one in action.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is really not the purpose of an end mill, however it works OK for this operation.
@mattelias721
@mattelias721 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mike... great tip. I think the secret sauce to your approach is the direct, intuitive layout-to-mortise process. Jigs sometimes require maths (1/2 distance, bushing offsets, etc.) and then on top of that, your cutter is upside-down, and hand-held. This approach takes out the math, and as you stated, gives you more control over the cut. I did tuck away the drill press notes in other comments for protecting bearings, etc., but really this is what end mills are made to do so with knowledge and caution, I'd definitely do this.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
I would suggest the bearing comments from others are a result of them not watching the video. At no point in this process is a significant side load applied. I'm holding the piece with my thumb, moving it and drilling straight down.
@mattelias721
@mattelias721 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeFarrington Agreed!
@makethepart
@makethepart Жыл бұрын
Great alternative for Testool loose tenon joinery. When it comes to green tools, no one wants a tucked up tortoise. Thanks for the gems and insight as usual.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Ha! Thank you.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I've done drill-press mortising with a twist drill bit, forstner bit, and a router bit. I've even cut grooves in aluminum with a router bit in the drill press with good results. Never thought about using an end mill.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Rossco242424
@Rossco242424 Жыл бұрын
I purchased Mike's kumiko lamp course on wood whisperer, it's really great. One of the best online courses I've taken. I would recommend that course to any woodworker, even those who don't have a specific interest in kumiko (like me), because there are so many insights into his process, and it is loaded with brilliant tips and techniques, just like his YT videos. I'm pretty sure, for instance, that the topic of this video was touched on in that kumiko course. Anyway, thanks for making the videos, Mike. It's always exciting when you a drop a new one and I know I'm not alone thinking that.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for purchasing the course. I used this method in that course. I did so because its very difficult to mortise those tiny legs using other methods. Coming up with a good clamping solution just takes too long.
@cmleoj
@cmleoj Жыл бұрын
This process works great on a milling machine too! When I lived in central Denver I constructed three wooden gates, and I clamped the stiles to the milling machine table to cut the mortises. You can use the same process to make the tenons. Thanks for the video.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
A mill would make a great wood working tool.
@mfcosi
@mfcosi Жыл бұрын
Amazed that the guy with so many routers enjoys making this on a drill press. Thank you for sharing. Greetings from São Paulo - Brazil.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
When working with really small pieces, its difficult and time consuming to clamp the piece in place. The method avoids that. This isn't the best way to cut mortises, its just another method to use when appropriate.
@mfcosi
@mfcosi Жыл бұрын
@@MikeFarrington I don't know if you are aware that there was some kind of spam (You won something! Cal this phone number.....) sent to me right after I posted my question. I warned youtube about it.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
@@mfcosi Thank you. I am aware and working on reporting/removing.
@andrewbieger5004
@andrewbieger5004 Жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC stuff, Mike. I have been looking at used hollow chisel mortise machines for just such an application. Your method beats that by a long shot, since I don't need a production machine, or a Domino, and the router edge guides are MAJOR sketch.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
If you already have a drill press, this method is worth a try before investing in a different tool.
@ZachStein
@ZachStein Жыл бұрын
Neat idea. I wouldn't have thought to use a roughing endmill to do this, I'll have to give this a try!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@johnbuenger
@johnbuenger Жыл бұрын
Amazing how simple this is. Would have never thought of it. Thanks.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@tbuc2920
@tbuc2920 Жыл бұрын
I want to get into mortising but not buying the expensive setups to do it. I will be getting a set of these drill bits for my drill press. So glad I ran into this video.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Give this a try. Let me know if it works for you.
@salvatorecaramico7104
@salvatorecaramico7104 Жыл бұрын
Great info! We used to use another "fence" parallel to the back fence to keep the stock from moving forward or back during drilling.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
That's a great idea!
@richardskull5279
@richardskull5279 Жыл бұрын
There are variable flute endmills that help reduce resonant viblration or try 2, 3, 4 or 5 flute endmills.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Yes, I have used 2, 3, and 4, and I've found 4 to be the best. It seems as though 5 flute are only in the larger sizes.
@williamkaiser8490
@williamkaiser8490 4 ай бұрын
Best drill press mortis I've seen yet!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington 4 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 Жыл бұрын
I have used end mills in the past but without the results you are getting. My bits were either dull or the wrong type. Your results appear to be excellent.👍👍Thank you for sharing. Have a great 2023 and stay safe.🙂🙂
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Try a 4 flute roughing end mill. It will greatly improve your results.
@alfredobanuelos4730
@alfredobanuelos4730 8 ай бұрын
This was very helpful. Thank you for the tip. I use mortise and tenon construction almost exclusively. This is a great alternative. I’ll give it a go.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington 8 ай бұрын
Good stuff. Thank you.
@tomhauburger6959
@tomhauburger6959 Жыл бұрын
Love this technique. Have had similar success with end mills on horizontal boring machines. Would love to see a video on your drill press table/fence!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
I also use these bits on my horizontal boring machine. I have a video on restoring the drill press as well as building the fence and storage cabinet. Have a look around my channel page.
@tomhauburger6959
@tomhauburger6959 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeFarrington Ah! I had watched the drill press restoration video already, but missed the follow up video on the cabinet and fence! Thanks for the pointer
@FunoXXX
@FunoXXX Жыл бұрын
I was so prepared to type the typical "you are not supposed to use the drill press as a router, the bearings... Yada Yada..." but simply just using the drill press to progressively plunge.... Actually a good idea. Just the set up time alone is a great idea
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@FunoXXX
@FunoXXX Жыл бұрын
@text-3264 Yes!!! Awesome! Maybe I send you a few bugs, so the tax people are not suspicious and you give me my price via google gift cards? ^^
@Omegasupreme1078
@Omegasupreme1078 10 ай бұрын
You can also reduce deflection by not bringing the quill down-- raise the table instead. This only really works if you've already made the plunge, though, or if you're going around the outside of something.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington 10 ай бұрын
My raise and lower on the table isn't accurate enough to do that.
@LewisRenovation
@LewisRenovation Жыл бұрын
I’m going to try this in my Bridgeport mill. Thanks for the tip!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
A bridgeport would make this whole process a lot easier.
@gregmead2967
@gregmead2967 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, there were some great ideas here, and since I'm about to need to make some tenons, and I just happen to have some end mills, I'll give this a try!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington 5 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@gregmize01
@gregmize01 Жыл бұрын
THAT 1/8" BIT IS ADORABLE!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Ha! So cute.
@danieldibiaso9342
@danieldibiaso9342 Жыл бұрын
I don’t do M&T but I do occasionally make slots for jigs and projects and this would be a quick setup for slots. Easier than setting up a router.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
I use this method for cutting the occasional slot for a jig part. Works great for that.
@landrec2
@landrec2 Жыл бұрын
Next-level-wood-carcass-mutilation. Some of the stuff you share is... wow. Thats all I can say. That mirror-finish on the chisel wiped my whole brain.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Gotta have sharp chisels, especially the 1/4".
@markarita3
@markarita3 2 ай бұрын
Excellent! Little tip: Get a strong (neodymium) magnet and place it on the drill press' side to hold your chuck key :-)
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Ай бұрын
Good tip, thank you.
@jwm6314
@jwm6314 Ай бұрын
I like keeping a cheap metal magnetic parts tray from harbor freight attached to most of my floor tools. Makes 'put this somewhere real quick' a lot easier.
@jrumbel
@jrumbel Жыл бұрын
Love the drill press magnetic stop block system you have.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@homesteadfromscratch
@homesteadfromscratch Жыл бұрын
Nicely narrated and shot.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@matsler89
@matsler89 Жыл бұрын
I am finishing up the wood whisperer guild lamp build and this was in that project. I will say the quality of the drill press makes a big difference. I found my not so great drill press had the bit wandering just a little bit even going slow.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I agree, a decent quality drill press is required. However, I am wondering if there isn't an issue with your drill press? Or is it very very small? I was able to perform this technique on my last drill press which was a piece of junk, but I had it tuned up and dialed in. Feel free to send me an email, maybe we can get it worked out.
@jamiejessup90
@jamiejessup90 Жыл бұрын
What a cool drill press fence!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@donmcleod8307
@donmcleod8307 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike , cost effective and quieter! Awesome
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Right on!
@awahlmubdi4372
@awahlmubdi4372 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, I like this method better than what I was using. Also great video, right to the point.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@randypowell4799
@randypowell4799 Жыл бұрын
Very nice. Always look forward to your videos.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@chrishodde
@chrishodde Ай бұрын
Awesome easy method! Thanks!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@branchandfoundry560
@branchandfoundry560 Жыл бұрын
Great technique, per usual. I've cut timber frame mortises & tenons on my vertical mill for precise fit-up. I'm sure pure machinists cringe, but I believe in making the most of all my tools regardless of original intent.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@marcellemay7721
@marcellemay7721 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have a bridgeport mill and huge 20"swing metal lathe that I'm thinking about using for a lot of wood working operations. I got the equipment that most people would dismiss as not usable for wood working, but I see something that's superior in many ways to wood working tools. My metal lathe even has a hydraulic tracer attachment on it that I can use to reproduce any profile I want on a wood turning. I could produce 100s of wood turned pieces and they'd all be identical to within .005". I gotta figure out the dust collection scenario for these machines to keep the machines somewhat dust free.
@CleaveMountaineering
@CleaveMountaineering Жыл бұрын
Great overview, never tried it this way on wood but I've used the drill press as a router before. Do note my old Delta DP and probably yours has a quill lock to hold it in place - most modern drill presses don't have that.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Mine has the ability to have a quill lock, but I don't use it. For this process its certainly not needed as material removal is happening in the up down orientation.
@CleaveMountaineering
@CleaveMountaineering Жыл бұрын
@@MikeFarrington Right, but for that lateral clean up pass at the bottom of the hole, quill down to the depth stop, then lock the quill and you don't have to hold the lever.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
@@CleaveMountaineering Yup, good idea for sure. Just one of those things, I'm not in the habit.
@walterhall9682
@walterhall9682 Жыл бұрын
This is something that is old I did that 20 years ago I knew that the Edmil yet we’re good for anything and Wood. It was way back in the 80s but you got a good point. It’s a lot easier if you just gonna do a few.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jaapvanklaveren6929
@jaapvanklaveren6929 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video. I'm going to try it myself too. I have a metal milling machine with a cross table. I use the same cutter as you. I only use them for metalworking. For wood I use an electric die grinder with wood cutters. I mounted the Die grinder next to the chuck. In this way I can mill wood very accurately with the cross table.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
That would be a great setup for sure.
@jaapvanklaveren6929
@jaapvanklaveren6929 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeFarrington Thank you, I also like being able to see where I'm milling / cutting wood. I also think it would be a cool idea to convert a Sliding Compound Miter Saw into an overarm router.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
@@jaapvanklaveren6929 Interesting idea for sure.
@makenchips
@makenchips Жыл бұрын
Square corners are high stress concentration points were cracks and trars propegate from.. Rounded corners allow for less stress concentration and better stress flow of internal stresses.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@leeedwards3783
@leeedwards3783 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Good to see another video and tip. My workshop is slowly filling with jigs and tips from your channel. Still need a drill press though
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@normanbott
@normanbott Жыл бұрын
Excellent idea, I'll have to get an end mill and try it since I don't do many mortices.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@djeity
@djeity Жыл бұрын
This is a super-nifty idea. Thanks!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@Dandoestilla
@Dandoestilla Жыл бұрын
I been using this for pocket holes but didn’t think of this, great tip
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@petergamache5368
@petergamache5368 Жыл бұрын
Drill presses typically have chucks attached via Morse taper, which is not designed for side loading. Don't be surprised if your drill chuck falls out!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
At what point in the process is side loading occurring?
@Great4179
@Great4179 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeFarrington I wondered that too…
@sfogarty2
@sfogarty2 Жыл бұрын
The way he set this up, there was very little side loading going on. That cleanup pass couldn't have had any noticeable tool pressure.
@jimbennett7248
@jimbennett7248 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeFarrington Most of us have had the be jesus scared out of us regarding side loading our drill chucks. Your method clearly doesn't rely on side loading the bit. I'm looking forward to trying this out as soon as I can get some bits. Thanks for your clarification that appears obvious in your video, but some of us appreciate that reinforcement.
@TWC6724
@TWC6724 Жыл бұрын
What exactly is side loading?
@MrRwp1
@MrRwp1 Жыл бұрын
Very handy, well made video, good content and excellent video production.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@giansala7409
@giansala7409 Жыл бұрын
From Italy : bravo ! 👍
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@masontejera506
@masontejera506 Жыл бұрын
Great tip Mike! Thanks again for all that you do! 🫡
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
@thedevilinthecircuit1414 11 ай бұрын
Use a magnet on the quill hub to hold your chuck key. Hanging it from a string is a pain in the U-know-what, and it's also a huge safety problem.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. I have my check key on a lanyard thingy. I was always taught that the lanyard was the way to go cause the string will remind you that the key is still in the chuck.
@manualdidact
@manualdidact Жыл бұрын
When doing this, you may feel tempted to just move the workpiece to do the bulk cutting, rather than doing the repeated plunges -- after all, that's what an endmill is designed to do. Unfortunately, the drill press isn't, and rigidity isn't the biggest problem. Unlike a mill, the drillpress doesn't have a drawbar to keep the chuck firmly inserted into the machine -- the chuck is typically held in place only by a taper friction fit. The vibrating side loads at that connection may be enough to dislodge the chuck such that it falls out. Possibly damaging the workpiece, or worse. (This has happened to me in a different situation involving side-loading a drill press -- fortunately no injuries.) The approach taken in this video seems reasonable, using plunges for bulk cutting and sideways passes for light cleanup.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input. I'm guessing you haven't tried this? I say this because, I am holding the workpiece right at the corner with only my thumb. I don't think the human thumb has the strength to push hard enough to cut a mortise via sliding it from side to side. I totally agree a drill press should not be used for slot cutting, like if someone used a push stick, or a sliding vice.
@manualdidact
@manualdidact Жыл бұрын
@@MikeFarrington The force your thumb applies is not the most significant force the chuck will encounter; it's the momentary peak lateral force as the teeth impact the workpiece, especially in those moments of imperfect engagement (chatter, partial contact, knots and other density variations...), with the rotating mass of the spindle reacting against the mass and inertia of the workpiece. When it happened to me personally, it was a slightly different situation, it was a small metal burr, but the work I was doing was small and the forces were also mainly being applied by my fingers. I've seen it happen to someone else with an endmill in HDPE (community workshop environment), and I've been lucky it hasn't happened to me. I didn't intend to criticise what you were doing, in fact I meant to point out that you were doing it right, but that this is an issue people should know about.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
@@manualdidact I very much appreciate your input, however, if there were any momentary peak lateral forces that were measurable they would show up as bobbles on the side of the mortise closest to me. So in other words as the bit dug in and pushed the workpiece tight to the fence, lateral forces would push the the bit away from the fence, this would show up on the wall of the mortise. If the lateral forces were acting in a left to right fashion, my light thumb pressure holding the workpiece in place would be broken. In the video I specifically did not show cutting from side to side for the reasons you have listed.
@tooljunkie555
@tooljunkie555 Жыл бұрын
@4:54 u answered my only question I had ..Thanks for sharing!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@edstud1
@edstud1 Жыл бұрын
Great idea and video!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@terrywawro2951
@terrywawro2951 Жыл бұрын
This is a genius idea.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@TheOlsonOutfit
@TheOlsonOutfit Жыл бұрын
This is a great idea, I'm going to have to try it out. Do you think it cuts consistently enough for a DIY floating tenon system?
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
If your drill press is tuned up and you go slow, yes.
@zacharywong483
@zacharywong483 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, Mike!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@HWCism
@HWCism Жыл бұрын
Nice explanation, thanks
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@thewoodworkersjourney3314
@thewoodworkersjourney3314 Жыл бұрын
Just scheduled time to catch up on my ww videos and Boom, the Mighty Mike Farrington alert appears! I need to find a good song for this experience.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Ha! Thank you. Well I suggest one in the video.
@desviz
@desviz Жыл бұрын
Woot! Well done and I'll say, timely with the relative humor!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@ClintsHobbiesDIY
@ClintsHobbiesDIY Жыл бұрын
Nice vid. Short and to the point. You have a new sub.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@carlpetitt2241
@carlpetitt2241 6 ай бұрын
hey Mike, one thing to keep in mind -- end mills are generally designed to operate at much higher speed (e.g. 18000 rpm) than a drill press can provide. So while your method does work, it;'s really not ideal. Also, end mills are really designed to do their cutting where either the workpiece or the cutter is moving laterally. Your technique of boring a series of straight-down holes into the workpiece using an end mill means you're probably getting the least possible cutting efficiency you can get from the tool. You are correct, though, that once the holes are bored you can then lower the tool into the space and cut laterally from there. Why not cut the original holes with a brad point (designed for straight-down boring) and then follow up with an end mill to cut laterally to complete the mortise? All the best!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the question. Couple things, the RPM of an end mill will vary, those that I used in this video were designed to be used on a mill, so under 5k rpm. Other types like a router bit will be over 15k. As to switching bits for efficiency of drilling; I think over all amount of time would be more. The point of this process isn't that it's the best way to do it, it's that is a quick and easy setup for a couple of mortises. If I needed more efficiency, I would use a different tool. Hope that makes sense.
@jeffreysmith5018
@jeffreysmith5018 Жыл бұрын
Cool cool cool. I like the cut of your jib 😀
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@GNU_Linux_for_good
@GNU_Linux_for_good Жыл бұрын
I'll test that out
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@xl000
@xl000 7 ай бұрын
You should always drill the first one, the last one, and a maximum of holes that do not overlap , and clean what is left on the last pass.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington 7 ай бұрын
End mills don't drill well enough to get a good mortise using that technique.
@Renegator1
@Renegator1 6 ай бұрын
Real nice. Thanks!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington 6 ай бұрын
You bet!
@ticklefritz5406
@ticklefritz5406 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos, Mike.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@williamellis8993
@williamellis8993 Жыл бұрын
Great tip, Mike. Thanks. Bill
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@alooshalshammari5915
@alooshalshammari5915 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@danielford5027
@danielford5027 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome Mike! I am in the process of restoring a JET mill/drill. I think it would work amazing with this technique! Thanks for knowledge.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
That will be a great machine. Oddly enough I am in the market for something similar.
@BlackMapleMFG
@BlackMapleMFG Жыл бұрын
Ive been wanting to try this for a while! Just don't have a drill press at home
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@danakraemer8512
@danakraemer8512 Жыл бұрын
That slightly rough inside is great for the glue to grab onto.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Yes, as the joint is pushed together, little bits of glue are left in the undulations, once dry makes for a strong joint.
@bobmartin6055
@bobmartin6055 8 ай бұрын
Very cool!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington 8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@andyfarmer759
@andyfarmer759 Жыл бұрын
This is a great idea and rather faster than setting up the morticing attachment on my drill press
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I think thats the best feature, super fast setup.
@andyfarmer759
@andyfarmer759 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeFarrington Hi Mike you have a scammer operating via this post. See replies to this post above.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
@@andyfarmer759 Thank you. I have taken down the posts.
@andyfarmer759
@andyfarmer759 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeFarrington You are very welcome. The little dirt bags should join our government, they would be in good company.
@EvanDunville
@EvanDunville Жыл бұрын
Great method. I used an end mill in my router to cut morices it was cheaper than the fancy spiral upcut router bits.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@erikp2004
@erikp2004 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mike!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@jimbo2629
@jimbo2629 7 ай бұрын
Perfect
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington 7 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@tick_magnetedschaper5611
@tick_magnetedschaper5611 Жыл бұрын
I like it! Will look into using this idea myself. Thanks!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Go for it!
@---we1ok
@---we1ok Жыл бұрын
Love your vids Mike!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@awlthatwoodcrafts8911
@awlthatwoodcrafts8911 Жыл бұрын
With a rounded mortise and a square tenon, I was hoping you'd show us how you round over your tenons. Rats. I don't have a good set of chisels nor a sharpening system of any kind, and I don't own a pantorouter, so I'd love to see how a seasoned woodworker rounds over a tenon. Any search I've ever done on YT doesn't turn up many good examples.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
You have to have chisels to woodwork. You need to get with the program. You don't have to break the bank to get serviceable gear. Get a Chinese diamond plate. I only use 1,000 grit for sharpening. But I maintain primary bevels with a bench grinder. So I never have to remove much material to sharpen up. Really you need a bench grinder too. But I've never paid a lot for one. I've bought them used. You also need an adjustable angle tool rest. I've made those myself. The other item I'd recommend anyone get is an Eclipse style honing guide. Freehand sharpening is a pain.
@awlthatwoodcrafts8911
@awlthatwoodcrafts8911 Жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred I appreciate your words but just as I wouldn't buy a band saw if none of the current projects I make don't require one, the same goes for chisels and a sharpening system. I certainly understand that not having chisels or a band saw, or whatever, limit what I can make. For the moment however, I'm ok with confining my projects to what I'm tooled up for. I'm also not saying that I would never get a good chisel set and sharpening system. I want those things, but I don't want to go down that road until I can afford to get all the necessities. I make due with what I have and I "level up" when I can. If I never get there, so be it. As long as I enjoy what I'm doing.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
I show my method for rounding over tenons, in the video that I did showing my saw horses. Have a look at that.
@awlthatwoodcrafts8911
@awlthatwoodcrafts8911 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeFarrington cool. Thanks.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
@@awlthatwoodcrafts8911 chisels cannot be compared to many other tools. A chisel is one of the simple machines. There's only two of those really. A chisel is an inclined plane and the other simple machine is a lever. So chisels get place of pride among human artifacts.
@onehappydawg
@onehappydawg Жыл бұрын
“…I like to look down on my work pieces…” What makes you so superior? 🤣
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Ha!
@liudas5377
@liudas5377 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, thanks...
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Жыл бұрын
if you get a Morse Taper end mill holder, [one that will match your spindle if it has a Morse Taper like your drill press and many other drill presses have] you can put that in your spindle after you remove your Morse Taper drill chuck....[by using a Morse Taper Drift Pin in the slot in the spindle].as drill chucks are not meant to hold endmills and have very hard jaws which allows the bit to become loose and move, [the endmill holder retains the end mill with a socket head set screw and is very precisely machined to fit the particular size endmill your are using, usually to .001 of an inch, and the side thrust on the endmill also causes issues when using a drill chuck, I hope this helps, Paul in Florida ....you can also use the endmill holder if it is a 1/2" model to very securely hold Silver and Demming bits that tend to slip in a drill chuck [even a very expensive Jacobs, Rohn, or Albrecht keyless] when they are of a larger size.....
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Good info, however, there really isn't enough load to cause the bit to come loose. I've cut hundreds of mortises this way, and haven't had one slip yet, either in rotation or to be pushed up into the chuck. The forces involved, wood vs metal are in totally different categories.
@KaliBlaz
@KaliBlaz Жыл бұрын
i can get the same results with a forstner bit, the problem with this is whether you use a milling or a forstner bit, you still need to chisel out the corners which defies the purpose, if you gonna do a lot of these mortises get a dedicated mortising machine.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
I have several dedicated mortising machines. That isn't the point for me. I like this method for tiny pieces. Like the legs of a Kumiko Andon. Those are so small they are hard to clamp in place. This method works well for that. Also, its fun to share different ways of doing things.
@evanlove808
@evanlove808 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I want pie now
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
You and me both!
@DylansDIYWorkshop
@DylansDIYWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I do really like this set of tips. Do you actually like the extra length on the drill press provided by the morse taper section? I had one on my drill press and decided to get rid of the morse taper on the chuck and the morse taper on the press. and just use the jacobs taper on each of them. I had to find a chuck that actually worked though ended up being the older JT33 size. I have much more room to drill with the press now and it seems more rigid being much shorter.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
I think you are right about the morse taper section. I'd need to think back, but I do not know if on my drill press it is removable.
@chipperkeithmgb
@chipperkeithmgb Жыл бұрын
Spiral router bits work as well
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
They work, but the 4 flute really work better. There is always a cutting edge engaged. With a 2 flute, it can create the feeling of the bit hitting.
@stefana1446
@stefana1446 Жыл бұрын
Love your presentation and the tone of your voice. Is there any technical reason ( i.e too much flexing pressure on the drill head)for which you can't use a router bit instead and do 2 /3 passes to achieve the desired depth?
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
A router bit will work, but not as well. The 4 flute is really key to getting a nice cut, there is always a cutter engaged with the wood. With a 2 flute router bit, there is more of a pounding effect. Hope that makes sense.
@fabienstriblen8004
@fabienstriblen8004 Жыл бұрын
So clever, thx for the tip!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@tmr0806
@tmr0806 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this might have already been mentioned as I have not read all the comments... But for someone who does not have a Festool Domino, I wonder if the mortise could be cut the same width as a common size domino (in both pieces) then use a domino to join them? Admittedly it might be tedious, but would still beat a biscuit joint.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
I don't see why not.
@pettere8429
@pettere8429 Жыл бұрын
The square inside corners may cause extra stress on the wood so from a structural perspective it is better to round the tenon.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Hmm, you may be right.
@ritchtaylor3831
@ritchtaylor3831 Жыл бұрын
The technique is great but you got my thumbs up for the Sonic Youth.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@thomasalison6188
@thomasalison6188 Жыл бұрын
Nice tip; thanks Mike!!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
You bet!
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Жыл бұрын
Great video mike, Paul your new Subscriber
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@brentjenkinsdesigns
@brentjenkinsdesigns Жыл бұрын
With some practice the tenons can be produced with the end mill/press combo as well. 😏
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@phooesnax
@phooesnax Жыл бұрын
Love the idea. Have same drill press
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Right on
@phooesnax
@phooesnax Жыл бұрын
@text-3264 wow. So very excited. Not. Scammer
@benoitfauteux4920
@benoitfauteux4920 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, now i have a “domino” machine!
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@richardskull5279
@richardskull5279 Жыл бұрын
This will work, but the drill press bearings are not made for big pressures 90 deg from spindle. Routers are made for tool side pressure. Just a heads up
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
At what point in the process is big pressure from 90 degrees to the spindle applied? I'm guessing you didn't watch the video.
@richardskull5279
@richardskull5279 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeFarrington step cutting does put sideways pressure on spindle.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
@@richardskull5279 I would agree that there is some tiny amount of side pressure. However, its only going to be a very small amount. If it were significant it would show up in the quality of the mortise, like a bobbly edge caused by runout. Also, I'm using very small bits, the largest of which only has a 1/4" radius.
@rodpotts2666
@rodpotts2666 Жыл бұрын
im going to have to order some bits.
@MikeFarrington
@MikeFarrington Жыл бұрын
Go for it.
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