DRILL- TAP COMBINATION REVIEW - WATCH BEFORE YOU BUY THESE

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[@Rexster2022]

Too aggresive on the steel

[@patcb829]

Thanks Steve. I was curious about these.

[@SteveRobReviews]

I was too but not any more eh :)

[@FromSteelToWood]

That trial is convincing! Like you said, for some applications, they seem good. Most of the time, when a tool combines two functions at the time, they end up being very effective in a few situations. Then ineffective most of the time... Thanks!

[@SteveRobReviews]

Yes exactly Joe , there is a reason why tools are made to do specific jobs. Great idea if it worked. Cheers

[@ozzstars_cars]

Hey Steve have you tried using some cutting oil and slowing down the rpm's? I would be interested if that helps prevent the bit breaking.

[@SteveRobReviews]

On the other ones I did and broke another one at the point it starts to cut a thread. If you switched the chuck from drilling to the adjustable settings on the drill it would do much better but I could drill and tap faster without playing with the drill . I cant see me using these again.

[@AnnieFarmerFarm]

Ya I forgot We are talking about a bit and drill and steel. I'm learning Steve!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Busted first time! I guess they would be handy if you had a bunch to do. Drilling without a pilot might have warmed the steel/bit and it may have worked better???

[@SteveRobReviews]

Could have but I think these are just too brittle , on aluminum or plastic ok :) Cheers Moe

[@LiloUkulele]

Thanks for the Review. By hand, I take 3/4 to 1 full turn and then back it off to clear the chips then proceed repeating the process. I would imagine that if you set the clutch and reduced the speed including backing up and clearing you might have better luck...an easy hand does it.

[@SteveRobReviews]

Yes I agree but like usual you will see staged videos showing how fast and easy they work :) All my reviews are actually testing stuff as intended and never stage a video to make it look good or sell any products or accept any sponsors to flog their stuff. Cheers.

[@RCAFpolarexpress]

Great video Steeve, they are great on soft material. For steel use a good drill mech than a separate tap set will do the trick !! Cheers !!!

[@SteveRobReviews]

Thanks buddy. 👍

[@drivecleat]

My personal feeling is that cheap drill accessories are just that....CHEAP. But in the interest of fairness think about this. Didn't you ever notice when you drill a substantial pilot hole how much harder your drill bit grabs and how quickly it cuts through. You can feel it in the torquing action of the drill motor in your hand. Your pilot hoses were really large and almost caused your screw bit to grab and almost screw through the pilot hole. As an example I'm saying if you were to drill a 1/8 pilot hole for a 3/8 final hole the results would have been different possibly. When you took your finger off the trigger the metal around the bit was smoking hot and when the bit stopped it cooled.... then you reversed and the bit failed. In the end buy a good set of tap and dies which I know you already own. Good vid.

[@SteveRobReviews]

Great observation. I just wanted to use the drill/tap as most would but yes on the aggressive side to test it out well. I think spending less never gives you more most times so a better idea may be to spend more and get better results. Cheers.

[@wyattoneable]

That's a neat idea and maybe with some limitations this would work on steel too. I do like it.

[@SteveRobReviews]

I thought it was a great tool idea. Thinner material would work much better .

[@WC09PU13]

I feel like these would work best in a cnc, because you can drill at the required speed until it starts tapping and then running a tapping cycle. You broke it because it was cross threading itself, something that’s easy to do with uncontrolled power and speed on a hand drill. Plus it needs a lot of lubricant to tap all the way without stopping to break the chip.

[@SteveRobReviews]

Good point and I agree but as long as they are designed and sold to use in a common drills its predictable they will be a challenge to use as intended.

[@CarsExposed]

Good ideia to have the drill bit and tap all in one, do you think the quality isn’t just up to par ? Cheers

[@SteveRobReviews]

Ya $12 is definitely on the cheap side so you get what ya paid for :)

[@PinetreeLine]

I’m gonna be honest here, taping & drilling gets my full attention! Nice one Buddy!

[@SteveRobReviews]

LOL ok I get the drift ........

[@WallysPlace66]

I've seen these coming through the auctions. I think I'll stick to the old fashioned way. Thanks Steve

[@SteveRobReviews]

Wally that's a good idea and so will I.

[@STARDRIVE]

Thanks for showing. For mass production, time is of the essence. For DIY not so much, so I´ll stick to drilling, tapping and deburring separately :)

[@SteveRobReviews]

👍

[@farmboy30117]

Maybe in a slow drill press? Looks like a neat idea.

[@SteveRobReviews]

Maybe try it out on cardboard or styrofoam before you get into the tough stuff :)

[@BackCountryWrenching]

a trades person knows that there is a speed and feed rate for what your doing, also the harder something is like a drill bit or tap makes it weak..... should have had the clutch set up in the drill to prevent that

[@SteveRobReviews]

It's a good idea but using it in a hand drill can be a challenge.

[@BackCountryWrenching]

STEVE ROB REVIEWS all you need to have the clutch set up not to break, drill/tap all the way threw before you reverse. In the middle of tapping something you never broke the chip but instead reverse it high torque which binded the bit and snap it. Even tapping by hand you you tap for a bit then reverse the tap to break the chip and repeat this saves that hassle.

[@SteveRobReviews]

@@BackCountryWrenching This is designed to operate in a drill so using it as a hand tool is not so easy. Get a set and give it a try , $12 🤣🤣

[@BackCountryWrenching]

STEVE ROB REVIEWS I’ve thought about them actually I may have to do that

[@SteveRobReviews]

@@BackCountryWrenching I did try the others and it didnt get any better.

[@AnnieFarmerFarm]

Excellent review! Glad we didn't buy them for steal! could you imagine if you hadn't had the pilot hole done drilled we would of seen smoke, sparks and flinging bits

[@SteveRobReviews]

HAHAHA smoke and sparks are a good sign of quality Annie 😂😂

[@sewasewa6585]

It pains to watch you rushing. See how you hand tap and then use these with more care so that you take the advantage of being combination. Still lot of fun and learning from watching your video:)

[@SteveRobReviews]

Thanks much appreciated 👍

[@DriveShaftDrew]

it seemed like your drill was still fast for being on slow but yup cheap is cheap good to show the fail as well as the good stuff thumbs up shared

[@SteveRobReviews]

I'm thinking under the right conditions whey will work like on threading holes in hard cheese or frozen butter :)

[@BruceLyeg]

I've seen these around but never tried them. I was always pretty sure that they wouldn't work very well.

[@SteveRobReviews]

They work great at selling them . HAHAHA

[@ziggassedup]

Not for me but if you're in a tight spot where you can't swing a wrench then I guess but you'd have to be real careful.

[@SteveRobReviews]

It's a good idea but most can do it successfully with the old reliable ways .

[@themechanic6117]

was not expecting it to break so soon into the testing lol . when ever I use taps, to me it seems like a delicate process so I take my time.... I think the drill puts too much stress on it. never thought these were a good idea from the beginning, don't care what brand they are.

[@SteveRobReviews]

Its a great idea but these just does no cut it at all. I have to think there must be some out there that do work but most likely at a higher price point.

[@547Rick]

Thanks Steve! You don't know how much I appreciate you spending YOUR money on these failures so I don't have to. LOL!

[@SteveRobReviews]

HAHAHA, Rick I break them so it doesn't break your bank . 😂😂😂😂

[@547Rick]

@@SteveRobReviews No actually I hate to see these failures after you paid good money on them but everyone needs a little humor!

[@SteveRobReviews]

@@547Rick Thanks Rick 👍

[@IchibanMoto]

I like the idea of something like that though.

[@SteveRobReviews]

I thought it was a great idea. Best to spend a lot more to get better quality I guess.

[@georgeboring7521]

did you use cuting oil it would help

[@SteveRobReviews]

No but I agree cutting oil always helps.

[@stuzman52]

As you mentioned in softer and thinner metals, it will work okay, but thicker and harder metals, it's a bust.

[@SteveRobReviews]

It's a good idea and will work for those that need to tap and drill fast in thin material.

[@wisdomsquare28]

I'd keep some old used motor oil around for this purpose. Dip that bit in some oil and then start. Take your time.

[@SteveRobReviews]

Yes, absolutely good idea 👍

[@bunyanforgings7849]

Maybe 1/8 inch steel maximum. 1/4 inch would be hard on even a tap done by hand with cutting oil. Mind you it might be better if I wasn't using taps from Princess Auto. Grear video, though, I saw that type before and was a bit skeptical. Cheers.

[@SteveRobReviews]

Yes thinner material and soft like brass or aluminum , even better 10 year old cheddar .😂😂

[@fayz44awad]

thanks

[@dukesworld3020]

I had a set a few years back. Most of them broke or just didn't last.

[@SteveRobReviews]

It's good to show these time savers but it would be nice if they worked as well :)

[@airratchetjockey7605]

Well those are interesting, never seen anything like them before did you get them from princess auto? You still need to do a video tour of that place would be interesting to see how it compares to harbor freight

[@SteveRobReviews]

I bought them online. I am waiting for PA to grant me permission to film before or after store hours .

[@airratchetjockey7605]

STEVE ROB REVIEWS sweet I hope they do I want to see this place 🤣

[@whatnextsunshine3046]

btw what effing good camera do you have? The picture is better than hd tele! :-D

[@SteveRobReviews]

Canon vixia $300 cheapo . Its HD of course .

[@whatnextsunshine3046]

@@SteveRobReviews :-)))

[@whatnextsunshine3046]

@@SteveRobReviews But... there is a couple of them Vixias...which one do you have :-))

[@SteveRobReviews]

@@whatnextsunshine3046 HF R600

[@whatnextsunshine3046]

@@SteveRobReviews :-D

[@TomokosEnterprize]

I can see these working in softer materials such as wood, plastics and poss the aluminum in thinner stock. Definitely not for any kind of steel for sure. $ 12 is tolerable ?

[@SteveRobReviews]

It was a good try at showing their limitations and as you say or maybe some hard cheese or cardboard. LOL

[@ritterjon]

💥 Put a label on the kit. Use only for aluminum or butter 😁

[@SteveRobReviews]

HAHA good idea buddy. 👍👍

[@utk.k]

Hey I want to use these to drill and tap.... Aluminium at the same time. I wish to do M12 x 1.75 questions 1. Will one need a pilot hole? 2.can you use them in tapping attachments that reverse? 3. If anyone can nake a vixoe doing that....itll be of suoer help

[@SteveRobReviews]

These should work fine for what your asking but with M12 I would drill a pilot hole if placement is critical. Alluminum is very soft compared to steel and these do well on Alluminum but on steel not so good in my experience.

[@utk.k]

@@SteveRobReviews Nah this is primarily for balancing holes. So Accuracy though needed is not super critical. but Thabks for ur feedback. anyhting on using it on tapping attachments? the ones that reverse

[@SteveRobReviews]

@utk.k I never tried but it's worth trying .

[@billyr9840]

Nice !

[@SteveRobReviews]

Cheers Billy.

[@CalvinsCorner72]

We use these in the electric shop but the panels we are drilling or aluminum plated ...so that’s the difference

[@SteveRobReviews]

Yes I could see on softer and thinner materials they would work great but how many have the same experience as I shown and say WTH :)

[@whatnextsunshine3046]

:-)) cant beat this strumming a guitar...

[@txsviking]

Looks OK for the hobbyist but not for industrial use. 🍻

[@SteveRobReviews]

Yes I agree but imagine that breaking off inside a $20K part 🤣🤣

[@martinklaus2203]

Your speed was too high for the steel.

[@SteveRobReviews]

Could be but its the regular speed I regularly use with so many drill bits so I'm thinking its not the speed its the design. Cheers Martin

[@Jasey2Spacey]

All the ad videos I have seen show it drilling at one speed then tapping at a slower speed! They just don't show the speed change but it is clear to see in the ad...

[@RustyGlovebox]

That is a fail if you work mainly with steel. Thanks Steve

[@SteveRobReviews]

Steel nope but softer and thinner materials I bet it does well.

[@GrampiesWorkshop]

How's she goin'? They look good in the ads, but like you found out, maybe for aluminum or brass or soft metals they would work, but not in a hard metal. They just won't do it!!! Nice demo buddy. Take care!!!

[@SteveRobReviews]

Thanks Mike and its a chance on what you use them on but for me I will go back to a drill and tap.

[@Jaxter1137]

That’s not the top or bottom it is a 3 stage bit 1-Drill 2-Tap 3-Deburr But bummer it broke.

[@SteveRobReviews]

Jack its a good idea but you definitely have to go slow and not too much torque. Cheers

[@PAPATexas]

Not made for steel! Maybe a larger pilot hole!

[@SteveRobReviews]

Might do better on hard cheese or wet cardboard 🤣🤣

[@jean-pierredeclemy7032]

As the whole idea is to save you having to drill a hole and then change to a tap, drilling a pilot hole is rather missing the point!

[@utubemtk11]

Use cutting oil.

[@SteveRobReviews]

I dont think cutting oil would have prevented it breaking but yes I do use cutting oil when tapping by hand . Cheers

[@BasilRBhan]

@@SteveRobReviews 'Drilling' at higher speed than 'by hand', warrants more care: lubrication. Well-lubed s/b OK for 1/4in thick steel.

[@Badgertronix]

Multipurpose things are never great. Just like the toilet paper taco from Taco Bell. Seems great on paper but the implementation falls short

[@SteveRobReviews]

The end result was definitely a fail for me but do these work at a higher price point. I will let someone else waste their money to try that out LOL

[@PhatBoyiee]

i think you went to aggressive on the steel. For all the tappers the specifications say what material to use with. Most of the cheap ones are for aluminum plastic or other soft materials.

[@SteveRobReviews]

Hi David I agree 💯 % . I like to review items as used by most to test for durability. I could have easily made these look so great as do many with a buy below link but I don't do that. It was an aggressive test , an honest test of how they performed . Cheers 👍

[@PhatBoyiee]

thank you for taking the time to make such great reviews.@@SteveRobReviews

[@PhatBoyiee]

I was debating which type to get. I need to cut a screw and tap the leftover metal on a light level sensor on an Audi that attached to the lower control arm. Not sure if one of those would work or is it better to drill the pilot hole then use the old fashion manual ones. The sensor is still good and I do not want to spend $300 on a new sensor.@@SteveRobReviews

[@SteveRobReviews]

@DIMoratya The old fashion way takes more time but it's a proven method. Imagine having one of these break off on a hole . Go with a good drill and tap , much better results.

[@PhatBoyiee]

do you have any recommendations? @@SteveRobReviews

[@bowlweevil4161]

piss poor design with sholder above tap, tap should be able to run through tapped material

[@SteveRobReviews]

I do believe there are designs that work but not these as the price point is that of scrap iron that breaks so easily.

[@jackassman6726]

Looks like more junk from " WING-WANG "... LOL ...!!!

[@SteveRobReviews]

They make it , we buy it , send it back as scrap and they send us more again. Brilliant eh 😂😂