Drinker's Chasers - Debating The Director Of Robyn Hood

Mr H shares his thoughts on his two hour conversation with Director X, the creator of Robyn Hood.

[@yamiookami]

Can't have a 2-parent household because there has to be some realism, he says. Director X low-key admitting people with a healthy family life committing these kinds of violent crimes regularly is unrealistic.

[@jonpato]

Low-key admitting Wakandans gonna Wakando what they do.

[@SandyKrotch]

Kevin Samuels talks about this stereotype

[@guyvizard549]

Let's not forget he came from a wealthy 2-parent family, which seemed to be highly successful for his life.

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

The GrandWizard would have a hard time writing a black show with so many negative stereotypes in it.

[@Thesavagesouls]

A black familly with the dad still there is almost a fantasy.

[@Philistine47]

_"We can't show a black family with a two-parent home, we need some _*_realism_*_ here!"_ Progressive "anti-racists," 2023

[@robertbeisert3315]

"Archie Bunker." A caricature of the worst kind of person the hippie writers could imagine, and he was still the most popular character by a landslide.

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

The guy was hilarious.

[@macrosense]

All in the family was not written by hippies.

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

The next American dad on television to come close Archie Bunker was Al Bundy. (I just realized they share the same initials 😂😂😂)

[@robertbeisert3315]

@macrosense dude, Rob Reiner was one of the writers. His was the point of view character we were supposed to like ane empathize with.

[@jonchowe]

​@@macrosenseNorman Lear is one of the most progressive people ever in Hollywood, sorry to break it to you.

[@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it]

As a native Brit, I refuse to watch the bastardisation of my nation's culture.

[@ian-flanagan]

As a Brit, I’m fine for other countries to adapt my culture, as long as I’m also allowed to enjoy overseas food, clothes, hairstyles, and culture, without being called a whateverist whoeverphobe

[@chelfyn]

It's only cultural appropriation when we do it.

[@ChainsawGutsFuck]

@@ian-flanaganThey enjoy ours, I'm gonna fuckin' enjoy theirs.

[@ian-flanagan]

@@portwaydutymanager8027 If school kids in Shanghai perform the nativity play, they’ve got Chinese actors, Chinese audiences… so who cares about ethnic correctness? Same with movies. If the actors and audience are all white, what’s the big deal? Historically accuracy is preferred, but with budgets in the 60s, it’s either imperfect ethnicities, or no movie at all. Do you make similar complaints about Spaghetti Westerns? And did you notice that since the current emphasis on ethnic correctness, the number of US movies portraying non-US settings has dropped dramatically? You get the Passion of the Christ, and then nothing… for decades!

[@wesleythomas7125]

As an anglophile, I refuse to support the bastardization of your culture as well.

[@NateTheScot]

There's no point debating these people because they are already convinced they are right and will ignore any facts to the contrary. If logic or reason worked on them, they wouldn't have made such a garbage project to begin with.

[@cleanerben9636]

some people just cannot be reasoned with.

[@thatguyfromcetialphaV]

'Some people can't be bought, bullied or negotiated with. Some people just want to watch the world burn.' Alfred had a good point.

[@tris421]

at least he engaged. that's a start..

[@steveouk90126]

I see you've met my ex.

[@natejennings5884]

The thing is: they KNOW they're wrong. That's why they gotta push that shit so hard. If they were confident in their stance they wouldn't need to force it on people, because it could stand on its own merit.

[@Cashewnutter112]

Malcolm X …. Director X Just because you want to name yourself in a controversial way, it doesn’t mean you are the same measure of a man.

[@jayboy2kay7]

“Just because you shot Jesse James, don’t make you Jesse James”

[@e-satan9032]

Hw thinks his professor x

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

When I first heard the name "Director X" I first thought PornHub.

[@danbaumann8273]

Ibram X Kendi. I think I see a pattern.🤔 😂 Black activists do love that letter. 😂

[@internetjerk2839]

Fun fact one of Malcolm X's biggest gripes was black people living up to negative stereotypes cause he believed it just proved racists right if he was alive today he would have hated this show

[@SqueakingLion]

Wait... so Director X says his original vision was to have his Robin Hood rip-off be about soldiers returning from war and seeing a need to clean up their neighborhoods? And he went from that (pretty damn decent idea, if already a bit overused) to a street gang of musicians turned vigilante, wearing neon outlines of animals on their faces and somehow being super-talented vigilantes despite having zero training? And he "didn't mean to use white males as his villains", that it was a "bad choice" on his part, despite the script being clearly all about race-baiting and badmouthing white people? And he was trying to reach out to all audiences, not just black audiences and anti-white racists? Yeah, I'm going to call BS to all of that.

[@animeangel1983]

If I could summarize what Mr. H said, he said that Director X originally wanted to do that idea but the studio execs at Global MADE him change it to the shit we got. But then again, deflection and projection is all these leftist cultists know how to do so even if he did "claim" that was why the show sucks, I don't believe him. No, he wanted the show to be like that.

[@grimjoker5572]

No that actually makes perfect sense. Directors don't have godlike power over their productions. That legitimately sounds like he had a good idea and the studios meddled it into something awful. There are so many stories about this; every single Cloverfield movie after the first one is a result of this sort of thing.

[@MyBrainGlows]

@@grimjoker5572 true, and not to forget that the writers pitch an idea and a hired directors tries to make someting good out of it. But in the end writers and producers always have the upper hand. Directors have to do what they are hired for and like actors some of them are bound by contract to a particual studio to make so and so many movies and if they are no big household names they clearly have no choise other than quiting and that would be damn expensivse and maybe you never get a job again because of quiting because you had a bad workday

[@loganb7059]

@@grimjoker5572 except Director X’s default reaction to the blowback was to cry racism. If the final product was a far cry from his original vision, and it really was producers meddling with it, then he would have said that. And he would have said that because people meddling with your vision until it’s completely unrecognizable and awful usually breeds animosity. He’s full of shit.

[@grimjoker5572]

@@loganb7059 That's possible... unless he ever wants to work again. Directors, actors, anybody on the project cannot disparage the project under penalty of law in most cases. Which is why all Mark Hamill could say was "he's not the Luke you knew." I whole heartedly believe nothing he's said is his own opinion, he's just the mouthpiece for the project spouting the studio approved position. This doesn't make him look any better, by the way. It just makes him a symptom and not the cause.

[@SirShiv7]

I'm not sure what the black community culture is like in Canada, but if it's anything like it is here in the US you'd understand why 'Director X' had such a toddler tantrum when called out on being shit.

[@danieldowney7692]

It’s bizarre: they’re corny and Canadian but in places like Toronto they try to mimic the most ignorant , destructive tropes of American black “culture”-hence this dogshit show being an inadvertent parody of itself

[@Roadwarior2]

It’s more egregious here because blacks in Canada don’t have the same history that African Americans do, in fact, the first blacks to come to Canada were escaped slaves who settled down in Nova Scotia. Most blacks living here today are relatively recent immigrants (1970s onwards) either from the Caribbean or the Motherland itself. So all the BLM bs that occurs here comes off as even more unjustified and entitled.

[@littlebabysicecream666]

Canada and the US are basically the same, Canada is just a little quieter and cowardly.

[@SirShiv7]

@@littlebabysicecream666 I dunno man, I feel like the USA has been absolutely pussified over the past two generations. We talk a big game but look at the state of us.

[@realMaverickBuckley]

​@@littlebabysicecream666And more European. The US is down to 58% in 2020.

[@thatguyfromcetialphaV]

What I especially loved was Director X calling Mr H an Archie Bunker and then having to wheel spin backward when he realized H had no clue who that was!

[@above.average.gaming.natio3026]

comedic genius of a director too

[@Exnavyjay]

I used to make words up and use them on people too, when I was 5 😂

[@steveouk90126]

Archie Bunker was a parody character, written by a Liberal, who went off the air before DX was conceived. That's how far back black people have to go to find an avatar for their grievances.

[@Mabra51]

Calling him a what ?

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

Archie Bunker had an opposite character, his neighbor George Jefferson who was a racist against whites. It seemed more balanced then.

[@AshCosgrove]

If Director X came out and said that his show was a woke parody, I'd respect him a heck of a lot more. He literally ticks every box possible that it's almost impressive. Every single woke trope is gone over: evil white people, homosexual black girl, simpish guy, annoying girlbosses, deadbeat fathers etc. etc. I will say that I respect him at least a bit more for being open for debate even if he's delusional. Most will just attack people ad hominem and that's it.

[@ephraimwinslow]

It really is funny that he put out the most stereotypical paint by numbers post-modern trash imaginable... and thinks it's high art. Like seriously, if the Babylon Bee wrote a joke trailer for Robin Hood? This would be it. Hell, if *I* wrote a joke trailer for Robin Hood right now? I'd have managed to come up with his show. (When the people you hate can call your shots for you with 100% accuracy? That probably means you're kind of a tool.)

[@above.average.gaming.natio3026]

it's one of the greatest modern day comedies going today. Stop complaining bro.

[@brockdavid]

That’s why he’s called Director X. For how many boxes he checked, not for being a counter cultural figure like Malcolm.

[@krissteel4074]

That would require some degree of self awareness and humour. Anyone calling themselves 'Director X' is flat out so busy pulling their pud to their own self image its far from funny

[@littlejohn8435]

You can really see that he is a director as a profession. Its just that his ego is wounded from the backlash of riding the woke trend.

[@RikuHino]

I think the funniest thing about this show is that all of the " bad guys" are almost 100% in the right most of the time and it's our protagonist who are actually the evil ones but the writing is so unaware of that.

[@brick6347]

I think he grew up in an affluent suburb of Toronto, and his dad is Swiss. He's since had a successful career and made a lot of money. Good for him. In short: I don't think he's got the slightest idea what poor neighbourhoods are like, but he's also got a chip on his shoulder about _muh authenticity_ or something because he's been spoon fed a bunch of progressive nonsense about black people being oppressed and living in the ghetto. He's basically larping, badly.

[@harbl99]

If he was so concerned about authenticity and representation of his roots he should have made an updated _Heidi_ for a modern audience. The Swiss are tragically under-represented in modern media. "We wuz kangz in Helvetica!"

[@ephraimwinslow]

100% He's a rich kid salty that he didn't get his allotted share of victimhood hoping for backpay in the form of hate comments for his garbage show.

[@erroneous6947]

Light skinned blacks virtue signal the hardest.

[@jamesleblanc7437]

Brampton is a middle class suburb, west of the city. In the 70s and 80s when he grew up, it was mostly white.

[@cleopatra1633]

Just another one of those 'pretending to be black' people. Annoying.

[@screech3859]

I'm Canadian and I had no idea this show existed until I saw the Drinkers video on it. Even here in Canada there was zero in the way of advertising.

[@Neon002121]

Likewise. I then it’s because sports betting companies bight all the ad space

[@pittland44]

There's something funny going on with this show. I didn't know exactly what's happening but I have a sneaking suspicion. What I think is that they funded this show knowing it was a terrible concept but they did so to preserve their government funding (they got Canadian taxes from two different broadcast/arts funds). I wonder if they originally had planned on not airing this, then the Hollywood writers strike happened and they needed shows to fill out their time slots. Then the internet discovered this thing and tore it apart. Just a theory.

[@robomega3893]

​@@pittland44might be something to that. Might also have been to fill their "mandatory Canadian content" quota.

[@pittland44]

@@robomega3893 Well Canada not only has Canadian content minimums but they also have diversity requirements, so that adds to it.

[@DamienDarkside]

@@pittland44 Dude it's the reason why it was released at the start of Hockey Season. Nobody releases ANYTHING at Hockey in Canada expecting it to succeed. Why would any Canadian watch anything but hockey? I know it's a huge stereotype, but it's honestly true. Only show I know that does a big premiere is Murdoch Mysteries, on CBC, in a different timeslot right beside hockey because HOCKEY. Global released this knowing it would fail, and got their tax credit for CanCon. To be clear though, this isn't CanCon's fault, as it requires Canadian Broadcasting to actually broadcast Canadian content. It's just studio and networking execs thinking it would make money, realized it was going to shit, and Titanfall 2'd it releasing it at Hockey. Except TF2 was a good game but I needed an analogy here. Global then can say "we did diversity look at us" and wipe hands clean while doing their other shows like Big Brother Canada, ET Canada, Nurses, Ransom and other shows.

[@entropiated9020]

Director X is what you end up with when you program someone to go through life refusing to take responsibility for their own actions and always blaming others for their failures. Be it "reeeeecism'" or the patriarchy, or whatever. Probably even got to do this show in the first place by...ahem...blackmailing the broadcaster by saying "If you don't air this you're reeeeeeeecist!"

[@Gonroamin]

Just apply the usual test. If you flipped the demographics around, just how much reeeeeing would happen?

[@theelder4797]

"I'm oppressed by racicicists! All I got is fame, fortune, a music and TV directing career! If I didn't have da hu-whyte man's boot on my neck, I could have been a success!" --- Director Xpiration Date

[@kira-dk2mx]

Literally the only way he'd ever get this shitshow off the ground.

[@brianmurphy6480]

"Director X" defends this project on a deeply personal level. From that, I can damn well guarantee the whole thing was his baby, start to finish. The sheer pretentiousness of it is his hallmark. 🤦‍♂️

[@bethanyh1637]

Hypnotic had him on a live stream panel last night. Several times he deflected criticism by blaming others for the problems... even saying that he wasn't on set when some questionable scenes were filmed. But then he got clearly triggered by certain claims. The was a definite disconnect between his words and behavior at times.

[@aikighost]

The whole idea of using the Malcom X "X" in your working name is peak pretentiousness.

[@fantasticmrmonk]

@@aikighostit’s why I just call him Nancy

[@StellusBattersea]

He was invited and actually came on Hypnotic's Stream last night. I only saw the latter half of it, but what I saw wasn't anything constructive. Unless I misheard, the questions directed toward him were sincere, and I would argue perhaps carefully worded at times, but his reaction to any criticism regarding the show was otherwise. He effectively sounded triggered and was already convinced of an agenda to review bomb his show, despite quite a few comments bringing up some well-worded critiques. Aside from the odd question here and there about if there would be a second season or some amusing antics that went on, he was passionate in his answering, colorful metaphors and all. Personally, I feel he only used the tale of Robin Hood in a superficial way. He could have went further, with further inspiration from the Crusades: have Robyn's father die while on joint exercises in Afghanistan, leaving the mother a widow (and have her working at the Recreation Center where they were protesting in Ep. 1). There are so many things he could have done to elevate the show rather than reduce it to stereotypes.

[@PolarizedMechs]

But stereotypes is all they know. The left struggles to come up with anything new, which is why they want to be ruled and told what to do, like, and eat.

[@TheWarmachine375]

Director X sounds like a horrible reject character of the X-Men.

[@leonardodavi2695]

Or a Resident Evil villain.

[@Grandmastergav86]

Their CEO

[@tomround8271]

The thing I've learned is that I'd rather have Dr Dre remove a tumour than watch a tv show by Director X

[@toh6261]

Sounds like the "leading brand" in a Tilex commercial. "Uh oh, he don't look happy. He's been using brand X"... But with Joker products, I get a grin... Again, and again...

[@namantherockstar]

Critical Drinker inspires me.. My parents said if i get 60K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...

[@mikeylicksit]

never seen it, never will. thankful for fair and honest reviews. director x seems like a real prize too. attitude is important, and race baiting is tacky and boring af.

[@kpsk8031]

Race baiting has become a business model for untalented "artists", c-list celebrities and social media narcissists.

[@paulcarmi8130]

I remember when he was just screwing up music videos...

[@Darkstar_Dayne]

This guy has a great career in the music industry, idk why he tried to get into Television 😂😂

[@animeangel1983]

@@Darkstar_Dayne Because Ice Cube did it.

[@Neon002121]

As a Canuck let me say this show is designed to fail. All shows that are released at the start of hockey season are doomed.

[@erroneous6947]

Im not even Canadian and I know that.

[@cleopatra1633]

🤣🤣🤣 bad series, bad timing

[@chrism4008]

Thats an excellent point about your culture, that many of us never would have thought of

[@spm36]

Tbf if there isn't any TV left in the world still nobody would watch it😂

[@ShooterMcgavin119]

Lol I was juuust telling my girlfriend this. They likely "gave him his shot" at that specific time on purpose.

[@CraftyMatt]

As a Canadian I can tell you in full honesty that most people in Canada are absolutely sick and tired of this woke TV garbage being shoved down our throats. The worst part of all is that there's no good Real Canadian content to watch outside of sports that's being produced today, that's why most of us have turned to Android boxes or just don't watch TV all together

[@LoneSilverW0lf]

As much as I don’t wanna say it because I like a variety of entertainment: go anime. At least they don’t insult you or your wallet.

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

​@@LoneSilverW0lfNo thanks. Most weebs are woketards. Don't want anything to do with that crowd.

[@MrEKOPriest]

I doubt that’s true because Trudeau has been elected twice and might a third time. Trudeau is the epitome of woke nonsense.

[@RediTtora]

Yeah well here's the problem, they might be sick of it but they don't fucking do anything about it

[@toaleydanza14]

@@RediTtorawhat do you suggest a full on revolution because our tv shows suck? LOL dummy

[@colin641]

I love how Mr H is almost perfectly aligned with the back ground character within his feed.

[@bellissimo4520]

If only he'd been wearing a black shirt, it would have looked hilarious...

[@Kiljaedenas]

With the absent father thing in Robyn's family, it's actually even worse than just one missing father: it's two. Robyn and her sister are from two different dads, both of which bailed. Real good show of family values isn't it?

[@TimStamper89]

Family values ? We can't have that I'm today's modern world

[@theelder4797]

Lol good point, that IS black culture, though. They praise it and love it and are proud of it UNTIL a hu-whyte person criticizes it, then all of a sudden they're super mad, hurt and defensive. When you truly love and are proud of something, no amount of criticism effects your love for it - so much jealousy, envy and hate.

[@judyhopps9380]

They probably got sick of the smoke alarm chirping

[@Donninator1]

yeah their mom is a stronk indepentint woooman dat dun need nah maan

[@nascar138]

Committing crimes to pay for legal fees? Director X just took the storyline from the Saint's Row reboot but changed it from paying off student loans to paying for a lawyer so they can sue the police. Bravo X. You can't even suck originally.

[@handbanana4899]

I'm not sure what was more awkward here, Director X realising he only got views because his movie got hatewatched or Drinker realising he gave the guy more publicity than his own efforts would have ever achieved.

[@nont18411]

MauLer was quiet the whole video. MauLer is Director X confirmed.

[@jayboy2kay7]

I think he is away as it seemed that way in the other open bar vids aswell

[@MrDeepseadweller]

Critical Doggo was quiet the whole video. Critical Doggo is Director X confirmed.

[@remuslazar2033]

Mauler X

[@motherurck7542]

​@@jayboy2kay7So why is his avatar even in this?

[@MagcargoMan]

He was thinking about how to make his next 5 hour long video essay instead.

[@brando3342]

Oh gosh… as a Canadian, I do not claim this “Director X”, or anyone supporting the production of “Robyn Hood” 🤦‍♂️

[@toh6261]

It's OK, he's black. Nobody in the rest of the world believes there's actually such things as black Canadians 😏

[@namantherockstar]

Critical Drinker inspires me.. My parents said if i get 60K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...

[@WayStedYou]

You are supporting erector X with your taxpayer dollars! not like you have a choice

[@bitty_beastly47]

Well...he's black so he's definitely not Canadian

[@BleachDemon707]

Yea, no one care about your condolences. They're fake anyhow.

[@MrHeavy466]

The fact that this whole thing is earnest, from the show to the director, makes this show go from funny to comedy gold.

[@jacobjoseph1468]

Why did Director X not step aside and let a stunning and brave BIPOCLGBTQHIJKLMNOP person direct this project?

[@SpaceForce635]

He is mixed race so he gets oppression points.

[@harbl99]

"OP has Scatmanitis. I'm afraid it's untreatable."

[@erroneous6947]

He should have let a native two spirit have his job if he didn’t hate native people.

[@Darkstar_Dayne]

​@@erroneous6947 A native goat is probably more talented than anyone involved in this whole production

[@MrMatt-qs2ck]

Nailed it around 8:00 - A key problem with modern "artists" is that they can't laugh at themselves, take an L, or recognize any degree of responsibility. They're just weak, uninteresting people.

[@MrMatt-qs2ck]

@@naturallawgiver agreed

[@Rob-gp6yb]

You can attribute that to social media, where you can't be caught lacking and everyone is showing up, which is thoroughly effecting people's expectations of themselves.

[@DdiamantEh]

This seems to be common across the entertainment sector in general. There is a kickstarter scam game in the video game sector called "Dead Matter", it released to the lowest scores of the year on Steam (8%) and the CEO and his team came out accusing the entire gaming community of review bombing the game afterwards. Numerous screenshots of the entire team blaming the fans, the former staff, etc. It was confirmed to be an asset flip on reddit. Narcissism seems to thrive in entertainment because they don't have to accept feedback as authentic; it is able to be hand-waved off as "Well that's just your opinion", or even worse (as in the case with what happened to Mr. H) they just start disparaging people who call out their nonsense.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

When you have coin, connections, clout, crews, computer code, control, communities, and opportunities... whaddya need with INPUT? 😂 Or what use is an ethical compass? Wealth is health. Might is right. Just like Theranos chick and Crypto creep.

[@DamienDarkside]

I HAD SUCH HOPES FOR DEAD MATTER. Not like, "I am going to actually give you money" type hopes but they seemed to have the drive that the Project Zomboid developers had. Of course we all know now that it is completely BS in terms of what it was, but if it did what it promised it would have been pretty good. Hell even PZ has public relations issues at one point and improved a lot over the years, but never broke goodwill. At least 7D2D and PZ update and are content-rich now. I just wish more projects reached completion.

[@cleanerben9636]

oh i5t was finally confirmed to be a scam? Brilliant I missed that.

[@gbmotors4150]

Oof, Dead Matter. I got caught on the hype train and back it years and years ago. Played the pre-alpha disaster and watched the subsequent fallout. Since it’s Early Access launch I like to randomly read the patch notes and then check Steam Charts. There were three people playing it the other day 😂. You are correct though, the developer backlash against the community for honest criticism was so strong, and typical of today. You release utter shit, people call it shit, so you get mad and insult your entire player base all the while bemoaning the lack of support….

[@Cruddy129]

If a director calls themselves something like "Director X" - i dunno how they'll think people would take them seriously

[@theritchie2173]

"It's like trying to fit a Zeppelin into a condom". Finally, something about this show I can relate to.

[@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it]

Everything looks bigger under a microscope.

[@RB-bd5tz]

A Zeppelin IS just a great big condom ...

[@TimStamper89]

Hopefully there's no burning sensation like the hidenburg

[@LuminousPath13]

Fun fact, Red Foxx was in an episode of All in the Family and it was _fantastic._ They were essentially playing two versions of the same guy, and none of the racial content was edited _at all._ Oh, the days when people didn’t take themselves so seriously.

[@exocet1]

There is a great episode of Sanford and Son in which lamont gets into trouble with the law. He goes to court and Red Foxx defends using the "N" word and it was so funny.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

"I'm going to steal money from someone who is more competent and have the willpower to work harder than myself" What a rotten, entitled philosophy to have.

[@Y7D]

They steal from the corrupt rich people in the original novel

[@heathermillsphantomlimb9314]

@@Y7DIn the original story, Robin returned home from the Crusades to see the Kings younger brother John had usurped King Richard’s throne (while Richard himself was also away in the Crusades) and subjugated the kingdom with unfair taxes, stealing people’s lands and homes, and brutalizing the citizenry. Robin fought against and stole money from an unfair and brutal government for actual reasons that made sense, not some land developer trying to better his community. The show version was a pandering, hate filled, backwards piece of garbage. Robyn only stole from the rich white land developer to enrich herself, not her community or anyone else.

[@marcelcoetzee7152]

Dispairu should really have been a part of this one because he has done the 'homework' on it. Also I think that the stolen money was used to post bail for the paralyzed mother. The show arguable gets worse after the first episode. I especially liked how the protagonist asked the paralyzed mother if she wants to go for a walk. This show is really something else.

[@Senate300]

Plus he's one of the You Tubers Director X called out for not liking his show.

[@vulgaritar48]

Nah, Disparu misses as often as he hits. Bad for a podcast because if he goes off on one of his reaching tangents then you can't have a conversation with him, you just have to wait him out and nod along indulgently or try to change the subject. Plus his janky teeth are too distracting to the audience.

[@Senate300]

@@vulgaritar48 My only problem with him is that he never talks about what shows and films he actually likes to give balance to his dislikes.

[@oakleyraverty1030]

​@@Senate300There was a list of shows he liked in his most recent video.

[@wombatillo]

Did anyone else notice the score distribution on IMDb? Something like 94.5% is 1/10 and 2/10 and 3.9% 10/10. The written reviews for 1/10 and 2/10 seem like a diverse selection of very honest, realistic and well-argumented opinions. The written 10/10 reviews on the other hand are *clearly* astroturfed. They are so ridiculously cookie cutter PR copy paste answers that I refuse to believe they're anything but astroturfing. They tried to review bomb the series themselves with 10/10 votes but failed miserably.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

Just like the scores on rotten tomatoes are for some similar products.

[@TheresaMayPM]

The film or TV programme was excellent. I related with character, myself having lived through the same racism as him or her.

[@homelessjesse9453]

Yup. Just like the reviews for working for Dish Network. All of the positive reviews are blatantly corporate stooges.

[@ShooterMcgavin119]

@@TheresaMayPM Product was excellent. Doesn't feel cheap. I like how it looks. Shipping was very fast. My husband loves it. Definitely be watching/ordering again.

[@marychocolatefairy]

Yes, I saw that as well. Plus a bunch of the very first written reviews were 10/10s, which indicated to me that it was from people supporting the show personally. Also, it's pretty telling that there are no written reviews at all in the 4/10 to 8/10 range. Strongly suggesting that the low star reviews are not in fact a sign of "review bombing" but that the show really is that bad!

[@chasehedges6775]

I had no idea that this show even existed.

[@TheHeesom]

@@NoonesbusinessI was crying 😭

[@matthewmeurer5696]

I wish I were you. At least I never saw an episode.

[@sedohema]

Stop it

[@LucianDevine]

The reason I don't believe Director X about all that studio interference is because of how adamantly he's defending the work and claiming that it's being review bombed. If you had this great idea and it got bastardized from the start by studio interference, I feel like most people would just claim that from the start instead of claiming racism and review bombing. I think Drinker is spot on and the guy thinks he made some sort of high art that is so lost in his delusions that he just can't see all the obvious flaws.

[@thebibliophilering8881]

What bugs me is that Director X acts like an innovator yet he's doing the same shit that Disney do. It's the most mainstream, corporate approved, kind of content possible.

[@darthlaurel]

So true. Zero risk really. Must have been a quite a surprise to him that it was badly reviewed.

[@davidsummer8631]

I find it hard to believe that if his original plan was to do a vigilante veteran show he still stayed on the project when he found out the type of show the studio actually wanted him to make

[@jamescollier9196]

That could have been great. It gives Battle of Athens vibes. WWII veterans returned to their town in the US to find the mayor and sheriff corrupt and have themselves a revolution. Add in stealing back the illegal fines from the police and you get Robin Hood.

[@ShadowRulah]

I mean the reason so much garbage is coming out is that the projects where someone puts their foot down and says "you're not going to turn this into the same woke slop as everything else" don't get made.

[@mcd22630]

Sometimes you have to take a job just so you can pay the rent.

[@davidsummer8631]

​@@mcd22630 He does a lot of music videos and what I have heard is that they pay big to the director he might be having financial issues but he seems to be a person who is always getting work of some kind

[@ryancoulter4797]

It won’t get cancelled. It’ll last however long the funding lasts. There are crap Canadian shows that went on for years despite low low ratings because there was funding available.

[@harbl99]

'Jobs for the boys', Canadian media edition.

[@SpaceForce635]

Does that kind of funding apply for non CBC shows?

[@steveouk90126]

Corner Gas, FTW!

[@ryancoulter4797]

@@steveouk90126 oh there was much much worse

[@WWF98bc]

I don't think this show has the back funding that a shows on the CBC will get.

[@sickbozo8152]

the fact that his 1st reaction was to threaten with calling someone a wacist is not just childish but shows how much hollywoke is out of touch with the real world

[@nealsterling8151]

The fact that "Director X" is so huge in the music business, made me think about his stance about being in the right. Could it be that his case is another example of someone being successful and surrounded by "yes" sayers so in his mind, any fom of criticism is wrong by default?

[@sugartoothYT]

11:05 My brain immediately started buzzing on that older draft of the show. Military men (and why couldn't women be involved as well?) just put their life on the line out there in the world, probably scarred by it but also have an instilled fighting spirit and they return home, what should be their haven, yet they find corruption ruining their city and tormenting innocents and their loved ones. This background can also naturally lead them to be experienced athletically, tactically and technologically, everything urban vigilantes might need. Like it's not obviously a guaranteed success, but it's FUNCTIONING without being a "woke" young adult wish fulfillment.

[@dwarvernbard9782]

I heard that bit and thought 'wow a show I'm actually interested in, how in the world did it get shifted to what it became?'

[@boobah5643]

And it's already got a built-in inciting incident: the changes the protagonist went through while he was away combined with the changes to his home in that same time, making the discrepancy between what he remembers and what is big enough to motivate him. That's a lot better than 'Mom trespasses on a rich man's business, gets shot by corrupt, trigger-happy cop.' Might take a little longer to develop, but it's better character building than 'condom jar.' Especially since we're presumably supposed to like and/or empathize with the protagonist.

[@dwarvernbard9782]

@@boobah5643 on top of that it also explains away why these people would have any advance skill sets, like drone repair/use without having to say more the that guy was the tech sergeant

[@barretxiii27]

Hell, that's pretty much a tried and true story outline at this point, like the classic Hero's Journey! Hero comes home after long time away, finds evil and corruption everywhere, sets out to stop it. Arrow did it, Walking Tall did it, and you could even argue that Rambo First Blood kinda fits into the same mold.

[@killer3000ad]

That idea would also be more in line with original legend where Robin returns from the Crusades.

[@Atc_cryptokey]

Mr h deserves around of applause for creating the bridge. I thought the interview with x was balanced although mr h wanted to smite him. Kudos. Takes a legend to restraint oneself. The interview was a masterclass.

[@NPCMii]

Mr. H is a dummy.

[@meerkat4292]

You should see the efap with yms about his video about drinker lol

[@xel1673]

The massive condom jar is what I feel like is another negative male trope thing they try to use to make their "girl bosses" more powerful. It's the idea that men somehow become more manly the more women he has conquered. Women become body counts. The other male characters will give him respect and back pats. Shacking up with lots of women is a power move. Like some alpha energy bs. Of course, this is an awful thing to teach boys/men and something people would be able to call legitimately "toxic" by treating women (or anyone) as objects for sexual gratification and for narcissism/egotism. But, like most toxic traits they accuse men of possessing, they then write into their fictional Girl-bosses and call it empowerment. Just like when these female characters are bossy assholes to everyone, where they are aggressive and condescending, where they treat men as lesser to the point they shouldn't speak unless spoken to first, where men become objects to please and serve them, where these women are praised for abandoning or neglecting their families to pursue their work or dreams (while the family must be in total support of and they never complain, unless the husband is an asshole), and so on and so forth, all while the writers of these female characters always make sure they suffer no in-world ramifications. The world is always perfect and anyone who gets in the girl-bosses way of anything she wants is a victimizer. Anything wrong is always the man's fault. So the condom jar scene is another prop to not only masculinize female characters, but to also convey she has alpha energy. Where she is so desired and charismatic, she regularly gets whomever she wants whenever she wants. And she's always well-stocked for the occasion to add another body to the count. There is nothing inherently wrong with having that kind of character in a story. However, if you aren't writing it as a joke, and you are taking it entirely seriously, you need to write it realistically. Especially if this is a trait you are applying to your hero. It is a negative trait, not a positive one. It needs to be acknowledged as a bad trait, and hopefully one they grow from in an on-going narrative storyline. Which I doubt will happen in this show (not just because I doubt it will get more Eps made) since it is treated so casually and natural by everyone in Robyn's household and no women, especially black women, are ever in the wrong in modern shows. They don't view it as wrong and no person in-narrative will ever tell them its bad. It's a terrible message to romanticize that sort of behavior. You can't make it seem like it is rainbows and gumdrops as a person sleeps around on the regular, and the individual (male or female) won't suffer problems later for it is just sending the wrong message. Fortunately nobody is watching Robyn Hood except those interested in checking out the car crash.

[@hope-cat4894]

That reminds me of when the song Blurred Lines came out, there was a female singer who, in her music video, had done a reference to the balloons in his video by saying she has a "saggy vag*na" because in his video he said he had a big d*ck. Most women don't brag about that, but it's meant to _subvert the norms.~_

[@ischmidt]

Feminism is a cargo cult at heart. "If we do everything just like men, and especially powerful sleazy men, we'll gain the same power and status those men have!" That's why the end stage inevitably turned out to be "Men are actually the best women", with the whole trans thing.

[@atlanteum]

I've heard our good Mr. Drinker comment [quizzically] on the name "Much" in a couple of vids, so I figure it's time to speak up on this one. Much is a character in 1938's "The Adventures of Robin Hood," played by Herbert Mundin. He is addressed and named specifically by Robin Hood in at least one scene in the film. He was not, however, one for building jet packs.

[@jsinjapan1689]

My hat is still off for Az for not only watching it, but reviewing each episode. This show is aneurism inducing.

[@carpentermt]

In case no one else said so, the name Much is from Much, the Miller's son. He is a character that appeared in some of the oldest ballads about Robin Hood.

[@helRAEzzzer]

Director X should have just done this as a narrative photography piece or a music video. The show seems like it was built on the visuals alone - modern-day Robin hood set in Canada. What he is doing is far too abstract to be told effectively in a medium like it is currently in. If I were to tell the story he seems to be trying to tell (giving him the benefit of the doubt that his racism in it is accidental) I'd take the following photos: 1. The merry men putting on their masks as they approach a department store or grocery store. 2. The merry men walking away from the store with food and/or clothing. 3. A wide shot of a homeless compound, like skid row in California. Have the merry men facing away from the camera, towards the neighborhood, in the bottom right third of the shot. 4. The merry men, still disguised, handing out the items to the people living there. 5. The merry men leaving the neighborhood. Maybe have a homeless shelter with a sign saying, "full" or "no avaliable beds" or something in the background. ***All 5 shots would be taken at night, to contrast the lights and colors on their masks. I really think to modernize Robin Hood in any non-abstract way. It would have to be set either in a fictional modern-day style city or in a place that is actually violating human rights and/or has genuine and widespread financial curruption issues - North Korea, China, Russia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Congo, Venezuela, Mexico, so on and so forth. Even in some of these areas, it may be a bit of a stretch. Visually, I like the idea of what he did with Robin Hood. Unfortunately, that is the only good thing about the idea. Director X should stick to music.

[@ifu138]

That interview sounds like it had big "How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?" "But I DID eat breakfast this morning" kind of energy.

[@THExMRxLOKKI]

I think a big issue is people’s inability to understand “worth”. Just because you like something, doesn’t make it worth anything, just because you dislike something, that doesn’t make it worthless. And putting time, money, and effort into something will not automatically make it good…

[@the_weed_in_your_garden9319]

Gotta give credit to Mr. H for having a conversation with him. Very interesting insight

[@teastrainer3604]

So why didn't they set the story in AFRICA? You know, change the name and move the concept there? The answer of course, is that this is just one more laughable attempt to diminish white people. It has nothing to do with elevating black people.

[@paulcarmi8130]

And director x deserves a small sliver of credit for even agreeing to a debate with someone that doesn't agree. They tend to shy away from debates.

[@the_weed_in_your_garden9319]

@@paulcarmi8130 he tried to get on with Heels vs. Babyface but AZ refused to do it. He's also been on Hypnotic channel

[@TheChannelofOrange]

We are living in the writer director epidemic. Just because you are a good director, does not mean you are a good writer.

[@derkeheath5172]

YES!!! THIS! Everyone wants to be an auteur, and few have the writing talent to back it up.

[@ischmidt]

It's the late 90s "artist who writes" plague in comics all over again.

[@pjnj042]

Hey Hollywood, if someone says they have a “new, fresh take” on a classic….it’s stupid.

[@uncardedreviews9721]

I think that Mr. H did an excellent job at having an intelligent conversation with someone who has an opposing viewpoint. At no point during the entire conversation did I sense things were getting out of hand. The director was all over the place, yet Mr. H continued to keep the conversation on track and focused on the issues and addressed them one by one to get clarification right from the horses mouth. More conversations like this are needed. Great 👍 job Mr. H👏

[@casinodelonge]

Horses mouth? Entirely the wrong end I fear.

[@ephraimwinslow]

Canadian TV is a lot like the BBC. Which means that yes, this show will run its course. You don't have to be successful in any when you're living off a set gov't allowance that draws from their big pool of protection money (read: taxes). And since Canadians get taxed on every dollar they earn around 4 times? Yeah.

[@AnishChari]

Yup, Canadian media companies can draw from a number of "Cultural Funds" to support their shows, all paid for by mandatory taxes.

[@ephraimwinslow]

@@AnishChari I just now fully realized the irony. He's paid out of pocket by the poor to make stuff in service to messaging put out by the rich. That's... actually hysterical. 🤣

[@khiclark31]

I only knew about this show because of the youtube commentaries, and for that I'm grateful 😂😂😂😂😂

[@cheeseburgersuperior1874]

robyn asking her paralyzed mother for a walk in a park is brilliant writing. lol.

[@st0nedpenguin]

Spot on from Joker about the teen girl tech genius epidemic in Hollywood. It's doubly absurd when all the male characters they're clearly taking inspiration from are all grown ass men with formal engineering training and years of experience.

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

JLongbone did a brilliant commentary of Robyn Hood! If you don't want to watch the show, watch her commentary. She makes an unbearable shytshow hilarious!

[@BloodyInitiate]

I’m pretty sure the hate watching content creators are the only people watching this show

[@steveforster9764]

As an English born Canadian I'm embarrassed that my beloved Canada is responsible for this carbabge

[@azzajames7661]

Technically, the money they got from being criminals by stealing Mr Princes car was for the bail money for robyns mum, as a poor lady in a wheelchair is a flight risk🤪 The moral compass is completely broken on this sh!tshow🙄

[@TheKageRyu]

I have seen the interview in question. Critical Drinker was amazingly fair and showed remarkable restraint when you consider how Director X has called all of the youtube critics Racists, not real men, cowards, etc... Meanwhile, Director X finds a way to repeatedly call Critical Drinker a racist in the interview - the actions of a clear cowardly soul and someone who has no grasp of real manhood.

[@nixonagnewreviews7206]

you mean Mr H?

[@TheKageRyu]

@@nixonagnewreviews7206 I am unsure, this was more than a month ago now. I thought that the interview I watched was with Critical Drinker, but might be mistaken.

[@nixonagnewreviews7206]

@@TheKageRyu ok i didnt realise Drinker did one as well

[@carlrood4457]

The thing people forget about the Robin Hood legend is in most versions, he's trying support/restore the legitimate government against those taking advantage of the king's absence.

[@SabastianMoran]

October 22, 2023 - I think that Director X is indicative of a certain demographic. While he may have a big ego, he also reflects how certain groups feel about society. What I find interesting, is that all of the directors, production companies, and writers that are involved in "reimagining" various classics and works that are in the Public Domain. If they were really talented they would create original material. Also, I find it interesting that the industry is so invested in ripping off established works, rather than reaching out to talented creators like those in places like Nigeria. There are African creators of characters, comics, and films that are truly reflective of African and non-Caucasian populations. The Japanese have been very successful in exporting their entertainment productions and products. I ask rhetorically, why can't people like Director X reach out to creators of color who have created original products?

[@PolarizedMechs]

And actually do work? "Directors" like Director X are lazy.

[@SabastianMoran]

@@PolarizedMechs October 22, 2023 - I don't know that they are lazy actually. I think there are a number of factors involved. Firstly, I think that ego and lack of imagination play a part in some cases. Secondly, the big companies in entertainment are hiring people that have a certain political and social viewpoint that they feel adheres to their agendas.

[@tombrook32]

Mr H is lined up so perfectly with the background.

[@itzybitzyspyder]

I was so petty and entitled to complain about Kevin Costner's lack of an English accent in Prince of Thieves....I had no idea how bad it could have been.

[@SensSword]

Director X simply has dyslexia. He meant to be called "ex-director" as his original name "Unemployable" didn't have a nice ring to it.

[@realhorrorshow8547]

From 1989 to 1994 the BBC ran a children's show called _Maid Marian and Her Merry Men_ which was popular and won several awards. So, if you want to see a "re-imagining" of the Robin Hood legend try that.

[@ian-flanagan]

Growing up I understood the concept of “actor”, but Tony Robinson was in so many historical shows, I though he was legitimately Medieval

[@realhorrorshow8547]

@@ian-flanaganI believe he commutes by Tardis.

[@jhb1493]

Yaaaay Baggage Claim! Her videos are astonishingly good! So glad to see her here.

[@ArtistFormerlyKnownAsShitlord]

My son used to, occasionally act like Director X. Fortunately, though, he grew out of it shortly after his 6th birthday.

[@imakethesites3048]

A better trope than "I learned tech by myself" is "I finished my degree because I didn't drop out and I respect my teachers."

[@ephraimwinslow]

Yeahhh, considering educational standards have never been lower, and the institutions in question have never been less respected... the: "Stay in school, acquire 90k in debt." Thing? Doesn't really hold water anymore.

[@imakethesites3048]

@ephraimwinslow Considering the alternative is low wage jobs, Try: 1.attending cheaper schools 2. Living with your parents 3. Applying for financial aid 4. Working while in school Encourage students not to quit.

[@ephraimwinslow]

@@imakethesites3048 I hope you and the sunk cost fallacy are very happy together. (Are you seriously naive enough to believe that the only way to *learn* or *achieve* in the information era is to go to a big building with a bunch of high functioning alcoholics in their party phase for 4+ years?)

[@Rabbithole8]

The character Much was introduced into the Robin Hood legend in the 15 century. He is a Miller's son that joined Robin's men who is often a comical figure.

[@Aikurisu]

We all know Director X needs that extra coin from debating you fine upstanding folks to help pay for the condom jar.

[@Ostsol]

It's great how the understanding that you can't just berate people and expect them to change their mind keeps coming up. I learned that long ago, back when atheism was big on social media and even before that with pseudoscientific cranks. It's tempting and maybe you don't even want to change their mind: you just want to tell them that they suck. It doesn't do any good, though. It hardens them in their views and they see it as validation. It goes both ways, too. Polite and constructive criticism met with vitriol feels very affirming, even if there's the possibility that one is very much wrong. Good debate is hard - and not just from a rhetorical standpoint. It's hard to go into a conversation about deeply held beliefs while simultaneously thinking: "I may be wrong." Even harder is finding an adversary with the same good faith mentality.

[@5pointview717]

Real Debates/Discussions exited pre2010s. With today's Woke Agenda it is all Biased - War/No Debate/Cancel Culture over a simple disagreement/difference of opinion. Snowflake Gen Z is too weak or has been taught no Critical Thinking/Debate through Leftist Liberal Education system.

[@pulverize3]

Im not shure about that, if someone is wrong i don't care if they believe the wrong thing harder after i tell them why they are wrong. It just means their dumb and will have a harder time in life. But the most important thing is to only debate someone if you're right.

[@dinosaurwoman]

First: That's a really nice apartment and they sure have nice clothes and material possessions (that's an expensive bike she rides) for being in a poor, oppressed neighborhood. Second: I think the key here is the absolutely stereotypical crap that X has put in the show. He's just confirming the problems within poor black communities and how they need to stop blaming everyone else for the issues they chose to cause. It's completely backfired on him, and he can't deal with it.

[@sxwthvndzl]

Baggage Claim!! Love your content. Awesome to see you on a panel

[@GlenAldcroft-dh1vs]

Director X sounds like the Alan Smithee of the 21st century for director’s guild members that want to distance themselves from their previous R Kelly music videos

[@thelastmotel]

It's worked backwards, weirdly enough. In the credits for the show, they've replaced "Director X" with "Julien Christian Lutz PKA Director X", and his representation have stated that in all future projects he'll be going by his real name and no longer using Director X.

[@gooshie3]

Mr H blends in with the background perfectly.

[@NPCMii]

He’s about as interesting as his background.

[@Whiskey0880]

And you are the life and soul of any party eh? I highly doubt it.

[@zhrimb]

Love how the plot of stealing money to pay for legal fees just takes money from one rich guy and gives it to another

[@Andrew-ft9ut]

Much the Miller's Son is one of the Merry Men in the original ballads

[@natetete1379]

If Robyn had a father in the house I would agree with you about the sleeping around thing. A lot of single mothers have daughters that sleep around because the husband isn't there to make sure the guy is worthy

[@mrkeogh]

*REALISM* Some media-savvy lawyer would ABSOLUTELY represent the victim of a police shooting pro bono because they'd be in for huge publicity and a massive settlement. So the premise that the gang need to steal in order to pay for a lawyer is garbage, unless you've set it up so that the local lawyers are all terrified to take the case on, and the only one willing to even consider it is from far away and demands some exorbitant fee to even consider taking them on as a client because they'll be leaving existing clients, have to move cities, relocate their office, etc. Hell, you can have the lawyer as an ambiguous character: are they a money-grabbing mercenary or do they actually believe in the case? Are they a bit shady themselves, willing to break rules to win a case? That plotline writes itself, it's nothing new but adds a little depth and complexity. I'm guessing the show didn't bother setting any of this up, though?

[@wht-rabt-obj]

LOL! Mr. H is perfectly lined up with the background image, making it look like he's raising a drink! 😂😂

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[@thomasmills339]

"never take credit for other people's quotes because then everyone knows you're an idiot ".

[@MrGreenAKAguci00]

Based on what Mr H said here, and assuming that Director X was honest, the meeting for this show must have went something like The Screen Rant Pitch Meetings. Where the Director went with one idea, and it sounded like a cool thing but then it just got derailed and transformed into this atrocity. Now if it did, the director still went with it. So at the very least, this one is still on him. He could have vetoed it Sly Stalone style and just tried somewhere else.

[@barry3045]

Canada also brought us The Kids In The Hall , Bob and Doug Makenzie , and Rush. Let’s remember the good things eh ? 🇨🇦

[@notesandlettersbillcushing7741]

Just occurred to me today that Director X is Ali G reincarnated (without the irony)

[@Sizzle247]

Definitely the team up we needed

[@setlik3gaming80]

Mr H 👏👏It was a FANTASTIC conversion with Director X. And to end it with Director X admitting he needed much much much more meditation 🧘‍♂️ was the chefs KISS 😘

[@blshouse]

Director X is a genius. He made some woke, government-mandated schlock for a third rate Canadian broadcaster and then turned it into one of the bigger entertainment topics for a hot minute. Good for him? Maybe. Shame on everyone else (outside of the half-dozen Canadians who would have watched it normally) for paying ant attention to this nonsense at all.

[@noblepolygon8694]

Break out the condom jar and enjoy the show!

[@RichDunn51]

The way Mr H perfectly lines up with the background character with the glove is *chef's kiss*

[@gloomboy1639]

Director X: "Am I out of touch? No it's the millions of people that dislike my show that are wrong".

[@steventwist1435]

The show episodes with Matt le blanc from friends was quite an eye opener in terms of companies changing things within a show to comply with modern affiliations. An English couple who are showrunners design a show based on an old English school teacher or coach, and it ended up being completely different from the original version in order for them to sell it. Could Robyn Hood be the same?

[@donweatherwax9318]

That show _Episodes_ was great, ran twice as long as it had any right to (from 2011 to 2017) and had a lot to say about British vs. U.S. sensibilities. (Not to mention changing my whole opinion of Le Blanc as an actor.) Unfortunately, _Episodes_ is destined to be unjustly forgotten. Particularly now that Showtime has been unceremoniously "wound down" and is now just a category on Paramount Plus.

[@Mr.Buckshots]

The original Robin Hood is about stealing the taxes back that the Sheriff collected for King Richard...this could have an actual parallel with African American treatment in the US....but they just fucked it up and just reduced the actual story down to "rich people bad" His original idea of soldiers coming back from war to do vigilantism is actually interesting and could be done well, I think there would have been an actual audience to watch it too.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

As someone who came in Canada in the early 90s, this production makes me think about returning to Germany.

[@thewargimp]

Hahahaha, really? Over-ran with illegal rats?

[@chriswilson3126]

Great seeing Mr H on with you guys.