Drinker's Chasers - Disney Exec Rages At Fans For Ignoring Their Movies

[@nunyab9504]

The cinematic equivalent of “ beatings will continue until morale improves”

[@daveroche6522]

I think Nelson actually said "The floggings shall continue until morale improves". Close so yes, you do INDEED get a (proverbial) cigar.

[@steve-0493]

FREEE UR H8..makes me immediately hear and think of kmfdm lol..Lucia screaming that shit out..😜🤟✌️🥃

[@steveouk90126]

@markvictor8776 "What we have here is... failure to communicate!" is also appropriate here...

[@MikeOxiner42]

Exactly! They'll make the same slop with men in the lead and it'll flop even harder.

[@manganiaco]

They'll never realise they're the ones creating an aversion towards the message they so vigorously try to shove down people's throats. When they started campaignng on movies/games, at least we had the benefit of the doubt, maybe it wouldn't suck. Now... it's become a red flag.

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

I love hearing how people in Africa thought Wakanda/Black Panther was ridiculous. It’s sad how overblown that movie was simply because it had “a black superhero”. Meanwhile everyone seemed to forget the Blade trilogy existed

[@tylorhobbs8920]

Blade was back in the 90s. For some reason the 80s and 90s don't count, which is why Ellen Ripley and Sarah Conner may as well not exist.

[@FunPicard]

To acknowledge films like Blade would be to tacitly admit the recent past wasn't a racist hell. It would also put a dent in the idea of Black Panther being a civil rights milestone. The whole idea that black people were successful, that blacks and whites got along before these weirdos stirred up racism? Crazy!

[@NopeNaw]

Remember how people were telling "whites" to buy tickets to Wakanda Forever and not see the movie, instead giving the tickets away to "black families"? These people are insane.

[@hope-cat4894]

It's because it was a superhero movie set in Africa, and we were in the middle of a revitalized Pan-African moment at that time. It's like how some black people wore dashikis and celebrated Kwanza in the 90s.

[@Hoegen2236]

I remember hearing about how Black Panther was the first black comic book hero. I thought the same with Blade, but don’t forget about Spawn.

[@BetterThanDoomWithAZ]

Considering Captain Marvel would want me to ignore her at a bar, it's only being consistent to ignore her at the movie theater too.

[@arcadianlhadattshirotsughW33Z]

what she did to the Don cannot be ignored

[@denkerbosu3551]

@@arcadianlhadattshirotsughW33Z #DonButNotForgotten

[@sinisterling]

This statement is so valid, I wish this was pinned man

[@pete5691]

So true. Just like I don’t want to watch movies made by that boss lady who enjoys making men uncomfortable. I’m sure theres millions of women just salivating for the next star wars.

[@andystegall7407]

And yet she would be loud and obnoxious screaming at you not to notice her

[@paulrippcord506]

They told us not to see their films, they called us bigots, racists, sexist, homophobic, etc. and then they’re upset that no one wants to see their films.

[@Attmay]

While openly attacking MEN and not sparing Gay MEN, Jewish MEN, or Black MEN, there will be reparations. This is hate speech against a protected class.

[@XSilver_WaterX]

As the Simpsons added in an episode "Angry Old Man yells at Cloud". That's the refined denial everyone has in Disney, and more horrifically the WORLD!!!

[@awesomehpt8938]

Some people forget that that they’re not entitled to your money. They have to earn it.

[@petethehawk5186]

Yep. One of the rules of business is to make a product people are willing to buy. No amount of force or shaming is going to make a customer and you’re more likely to just drive them further away. Back in the day if a studio dropped a movie that bombed they just ate it. Now they attack customers and potential customers over it. If they personally like the film and think it’s great that’s fine, but no good will come of blaming people for not supporting it.

[@petethehawk5186]

@rollinrat4850 A big reason why the current generation struggles.

[@ReturnOfHeresy]

They do, they're appealing to the 'managers' of your retirement funds. Will it last? Guess we'll find out.

[@thecoach3577]

I think they got it into their heads during the height of Marvel and Pixar that, if they make a movie, they will make millions of dollars, no matter what. And I think they’re still unable to accept reality, that people don’t have to see your movie, just because it has the Disney or Marvel logo.

[@StarViewer68]

Exactly. The Disney “leadership” is doing more damage to their brand than the recent movies themselves.

[@ReturnOfHeresy]

The exec actually went with: "calling the movies bad is dogwhistle code for misogyny".

[@tbone2646]

to paraphrase Douglas Murray - If you're hearing dog whistles everywhere that must mean you're the dog

[@alberto5770]

Sure sure, my titinus was not caused in the firing lane, it was their crap bouncing on my hard skull.

[@Ceabrus74]

Insults from a defeated enemy mean nothing to the victor. Kick rocks, disney.

[@kathleenhensley5951]

Absolutely. They can hate us all they want but reject their garbage... what's the line, 'without respect, we reject'

[@M167A1]

The problem is this is only one skirmish in a much wider war with that civilization is losing

[@stephenmarshall8367]

Dead mouse walking...

[@Fridaey13txhOktober]

@@stephenmarshall8367 This mouse is already dead, it just doesn't know it yet... 😄

[@TheDocLamkin]

Sealing this quote,it's just too damn good.

[@bwtv147]

Why is it fine for Kathleen Kennedy to say women and girls can’t identify with heroes like Luke Skywalker and Han Solo but bad if men and boys don’t identify with Rey Palpatine and Helena Shaw?

[@JayM928]

That's a good point. It's not consistent. Having said that, it's also a red herring anyway. I don't give a crap what the main character's sex or race is if they are interesting and the story is good. It just so happens that for the past 10 years or so, THEY AREN'T. They are just so out of touch they can't even see it.

[@Spongemonkey26]

Because they're all virtue signalling hypocrits over there.

[@Pyromanemac]

​@@JayM928how is it a red herring? It's a completely valid criticism of their inconsistent application.

[@Phazon_Corrupted]

You're absolutely correct. It's almost like they're not about equality at all.

[@atom_zero5413]

Because it's not actually about equality. It's a power grab and easy praise through virtue signaling.

[@brick6347]

It's simple: give the customer what they want. I don't want a 90 minute lecture, and I don't think anyone else does either.

[@LyaksandraB]

Absolutely no one does. It's hilarious, because the overlap between wokes and "atheists" is huge. They are the kind of people who complain about the Jehovah's witnesses annoying you by appearing uninvited at your house, yet they are doing exactly the same thing. Their lack of self awareness is fucking terrifying. They're practically inanimate objects.

[@slckb0y65]

especially when the lecturing is made by a bunch of litteral scum of the earth

[@DanielSeymour-q5q]

I wish it was only 90 minutes. Nothing Disney makes any more is less than two hours long.

[@denisl2760]

The customer isn't allowed to want things. Disney will decide what you want.

[@dretchlord873]

Lectures belong to the schools and churches since it's their job. Hollywood is not in that list

[@daviru02]

Middle American dad here. What Drinker says is true about normal people not liking this trite. But, "the message" has a disdain for all normal people everywhere

[@Smittjitsu]

Was about to comment the same until I saw yours lol

[@ohrallyyadoood]

Disney execs out of touch? Yeah, that tracks.

[@xuvial1391]

I tried searching for the source of this Disney exec story. All I could find was an article citing a newsletter from Matt Beloni, who said that a "Disney exec" sent this message to him via DM. Basically some guy claimed that some other guy working for Disney told him this in private. Great.

[@Pink.andahalf]

If I'm paying for a 90 minute lecture, I better be working toward a degree or certification.

[@garymc1105]

Yes, it is absolutely the fans' fault for not going to see these movies. Because they have free will and will, by and large, choose not to watch something they know is going to be disappointing.

[@dbsommers1]

Why do you think they are so desperate to make everything credit and then introduce a social credit system?

[@stantheman9072]

Disappointing and offensive

[@JoJo-vg8dz]

Dear Disney cookoos, You have zero rights to question the tastes of customers, whatever they are. You just provide them with what they want, if you want them to buy your product. P.E.R.I.O.D.

[@rbu2136]

And for me I am personally exhausted of the woke girl bosses in genres that used to be filled with male leads and make energy. I don’t watch WNBA and won’t watch WNBA MARVEL.

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

Make movies for the actual fans, not the imaginary fans you want but will never exist

[@michaellacy8510]

It’s pathetic when rich people are outraged that fans hate their movies. How weirdly entitled do you have to be to insist that people just shower you with money?

[@castleofaargh2093]

Exactly!! That's what makes apathy so powerful against them. So many people just simply refusing to pay for bad entertainment as it's clearly a waste of people's time and money

[@jasond130]

Disney was always viewed as "safe" for families. Parents are paying attention now and that image of safety is lost, and is very difficult to get back.

[@theunknowncommenter725]

Disney stop being totally family-friendly after 2019. Nowadays you have to thoroughly check them.

[@abehambino]

It will take years to re establish that trust, perhaps decades. And that’s from when they START fixing themselves. No signs of that happening anytime soon.

[@lareolanKFP]

It's gone for good, they'll never get it back. They might be able to turn things around in 10-30 years, but I doubt their reputation will ever be back to what it used to be.

[@M167A1]

Even if they magically minted their ways, who knows how long it would take to earn back the trust they have lost

[@Simon-xc5oy]

Yes. Disney was at its peak before I was born, in the 50s and 60s and into the 70s they were making classics. Then they had a huge second wave of classics in the 90s with Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Lion King, Aladdin, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Tarzan etc....They went full on message and woke with the new Star Wars films and Marvel and their animated output over at least the last ten years and the damage to the name Disney is going to be hard to fix. No one wants to see their stuff like they used to. Its not seen as cool, parents dont trust the name and they are just doing tired retreads and remakes all the time anyway. Of better films that were not woke and did not need modern remakes. Total loss of creativity and a total loss of their way, audience and family values....

[@rexham83]

Years ago I worked for a manager that told me: "If you want real change at your business, sometimes you have to fire everyone and start over."

[@mrcliff3709]

Yep top down everyone

[@zigmar2]

That's the only option really. These companies are infested with ideological lunatics.

[@zigmar2]

That's the only way. These companies are infested with ideological lun*******. EDIT: The youtube commissars delete the comments with "undesirable" words.

[@andrewh5568]

A KZbinr(Tim Pool) said the same thing about when he worked in a charity before he made it big online. When a branch of the charity starts to have a negativity spiral(questioning the work, feeling there is no reason to keep collecting for charity asking why the CEO makes so much money)you have to fire EVERYONE and start over because if anyone remains the mental/social infection will carry over to the new people and it doesn't go away.

[@scooterthefrog]

Culture dies hard. Worked at a place for fifteen years, we changed product skews multiple times. Completely different items, specs, and ingredients from when I started to when I left. In my last month, I was still training hires to do things in a way that only made sense for a product we made last fourteen years past. Told management multiple times we could stop doing it that way, it no longer made sense and only got crickets in response. Heard from friends that stayed that they had a real fun time trying to figure out my work arounds for their policies after I left.

[@BillPeschel]

the cope is strong in this Disney exec. He/she/them/they got hit with the reality stick and STILL said, "It's the audience's fault." In the old days, the studio chief would have called everyone in and said, "Make profitable films or you're fired."

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

In the old days the exec would not be a member of the woke cult.

[@docsavage8640]

And they'd blacklist writer and actors who were

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

"Profitable" Many movies you problably liked werent big box office hits, you have to male a movie that is at least liked, if it brings more money is good

[@JoJo-vg8dz]

IT. These creatures are barely human.

[@richardhockey8442]

the problem is, now it would be 'our films were flops - they weren't diverse enough. Get me more diversity!'

[@UnnamedBridgeburner]

“Im not making something you like and that’s your fault!” Good plan Disney. Run with that. See how it goes.

[@inthefade]

"Is it me? Am I out of touch? No, it is the fans who are wrong."

[@calebharch7229]

Hollywood acts like everywhere on earth is EXACTLY the same as it is there.

[@buckjones4901]

They, like Taylor Swift, live in an imaginary bubble most of the time it seems.

[@lindasmith320]

Yes indeed

[@MarkDeSade100]

No, they act in a calculated way to force everywhere else to become like them.

[@johnkluge3421]

Black Panther was actually wildly racist in the way it portrayed Africans.

[@dexine4723]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that.

[@johnkluge3421]

@@dexine4723 There is one scene where they have them open up the force field that protects Wakandia from discovery. Rather than just flip a switch, they have two guys in some kind of tribal dress bang on some African drums. That is straight out of Blazing Saddles or Airplane. It is so racist.

[@gipgap4]

@@johnkluge3421hey, there’s nothing wrong with Blazing Saddles or Airplane. Both are classic films.

[@johnkluge3421]

@@gipgap4 I don’t think so. The people who went to Black Panther likely don’t agree. Moreover, those were comedies. Black Panther was not. So it being incredibly racist in its portrayal of Africans should have been a problem

[@AbsentMinded619]

They literally have a free-for-all fist fight to decide who gets to run the whole country.

[@lance134679]

Hollywood has stopped trying to hide their contempt for the audience.

[@MeatSim64]

I appreciate their honesty. Saves me money.

[@JoJo-vg8dz]

You don't question the tastes of customers, whatever they are. You just provide them with what they want, if you want them to buy your product.

[@docsavage8640]

Well, they're partly right: moviegoers ARE to blame for Disney films failing at the box office. Because almost nobody wants to give Disney money for their awful woke movies.

[@axiss5840]

We'd go if their movies weren't shit. The ball is in their court.

[@nateschultz8973]

Yeah, the *fault* is Disney's. They worked hard to develop this so they can enjoy the fruits of their labors.

[@liamphibia]

The audience has gotten more smarter and more aware than what the writers are trying to give.

[@RageDaug]

This is the part that baffles me that Disney gets stuck on. Completely agree that it's the audience to blame for not going your movie. That's business 101. If your audience doesn't want to pay for your product, you won't sell anything. So to say, your potential audience doesn't want to pay to see what you are making. So now that we all understand that, what are you going to do about it Disney? Continue to make movies that lose money that no one wants to see, or fix it and make stories people are willing to pay you money to watch. I would encourage every artist to make art that they enjoy and that makes them happy. But if you are an artist who hopes to make a living with your art, your art also has to make me, or more accurately, your customer base, happy. And if it doesn't, we are not going to buy it. You can piss and moan about it like a spoiled brat throwing a tantrum, which isn't going to make anyone more likely to buy your art, or you can make something that I would be willing to pay you for.

[@victorcates9330]

Some of these movies are prejudged. If you're been listening to people say "film x is going to suck", you'll be less likely to see it. But some of the bombs seemed to be with films where the target audience probably weren't the people lapping up "oh, this is going to suck". With 'The Marvels', the desired target audience were teenaged girls. They seem more exposed to tiktok than youtube. I don't the bulk of teenaged girls tuning into the critical drinker. I'd additionally note that critics aren't in love with some of these films of late. There have even been some where the companies who made the film seemed to pull back on marketing. If you go to a film and it's good, you're going to tell your friends. It's a partial antidote to review bombing. Make something good enough that people enthuse. WIth children's film particularly, parents will take them to ANYTHING. A rotten tomatoes score doesn't matter. So if children see Elemental or Wish and don't bully their parents into buying the toys, that's a sign.

[@Anti_Woke]

The sheer arrogance, coupled with total ignorance and disdain for actual 'strong female characters' pre-woke. Dear disney - when you hate and publicly attack your audience, while also refusing to give them the products they want, you lose them.

[@burrstep36]

Appreciate you guys being the proverbial Canaries in the coal mine. Watching terrible movies so that we don’t have to.

[@yaboimax6356]

They don't have anything on it's a Gundam though. He is basically on the verge of a (offing himself) mental breakdown 24/7 because he watches stuff that is so cringe we would die if we had to watch it ourselves.

[@christophertaylor9100]

I watch these kind of shows rather than movies these days. More entertaining and cheaper

[@Tariousgaming]

You don't need a canary to tell you that the fart mines are full of gas.

[@53kenner]

Personally, I found Black Panther to be an extremely 'meh' film. For political reasons, everyone had to be a Mary Sue, essentially perfect from the moment that they appeared on screen. So, no one had any inner conflict, learned no real lessons, and exhibited no growth. We need only compare to Iron Man and Dr. Strange, two movies where we rooted for the title characters because we could see our own flawed selves in them and also appreciated their journey forward.

[@vonfaustien3957]

Black Panther had a better character arch and saw more growth in the 15 minutes of screen time he had in civil war than he did in his own movie

[@howaboutsomesoyfood]

most overrated movie of all time, perhaps.

[@LeoJay]

The fans voted with their wallets and they should keep doing it.

[@ohsweetmystery]

No one wants to pay money to see crap.

[@JourneyofOne971]

The loss of DVD release and sales 6 months after a movie comes out was huge is so many ways. Not only did production companies lose a huge revenue stream, but there is no FOMO if you miss the theatrical release. Like you guys said, it starts streaming 45 days later.. so why should I go to the actual theater?

[@astolatpere11]

I live in California and the smug supperiority is strong here. It's depressing.

[@lowlandnobleman6746]

I live in the South, and it amuses me when those smug progressive Californians you speak of call the South a shithole, meanwhile they have actual human shit on their streets and the South does not. Stay strong over there. It’ll get worse before it gets better.

[@craig_z]

Same here. It's insufferable.

[@The_Ronin1]

The ridiculous superiority attitude is also horrible here in Washington state. It's so bad here that they have signs that say "be kind." I've never seen that before I came here.

[@willros6128]

Get out of there , your life will be ruined

[@luckyducky7819]

The thought of "Our movies are great! The fans are just lying when they say they're bad" is perhaps the most delusional thing I've heard in a while. We've spent years complaining about the Star Wars sequel trilogy, and a ton of the complaints have nothing to do with women at all. Kylo's dumb (but cool looking) Saber is a point of contention for a lot of us. As well as Finn's side lining.

[@347Jimmy]

John Boyega was done so dirty

[@EchoDoctrine]

It’s wild, they scream we are bigots & sexists for not liking the movie, and yet the majority of us felt John Boyega Finn character was dropped and handled badly. We were excited he would get a great story, maybe hes a jedi, maybe something is going on, we wanted a great movie and story and they actually dropped his whole arc and made a trash story. We are simply mad at bad films and bad stories and they can’t fathom they actually made bad content we didn’t enjoy.

[@FKCENSORSHIP]

Or those of us that read the third trilogy, can't stand the movies cause they completely ignored the books. 🤷‍♂️

[@docsavage8640]

Their rage is like fine wine to me.

[@kevgamble]

The persistence with which they don't get it is striking. With superhero movies, the first Wonder Woman was beloved by fans, men and women alike. With Star Wars movies, Rogue One is far and away the most admired of all the post-Lucas movies. So their narrative holds no water. "Just make better movies" IS the core issue. The Star Wars sequel trilogy was an utter catastrophe of poor story and writing, never justifying its own existence for a moment, and tearing the resolved storyline to pieces in the process. How can they think that's something anyone would enjoy? The angst has nothing to do with Rey being the main character. That could and should have worked out fine. They just thought they didn't have to bother actually making her a real character in a real story. It was the most insultingly lazy, resentful, slapdash effort I've ever seen in my life in a big-budget film. It was the easiest layup in cinema history, and they found the one way to make it a disaster.

[@tylergoodman3560]

Disney: We're going to mock and belittle the fans for not watching our terrible movies. Me: Let me know how that works out. 😂🎉

[@tekno647]

"It's a bold strategy, Cotton! Let's see how it plays out."

[@hassathunter2464]

They've been doing that and that's how they got her. No learning :/

[@EvenTheDogAgrees]

Exactly, I mean, what do they expect? The audience to go "oh, damn, they're mocking us" and as a result flock en masse to the theaters? There is nothing to gain from antagonising your audience. Quite the contrary, the only thing you'll achieve is even more people will stay away.

[@lonepigeon68]

Here's a radical idea - have the lion's share of the CEO and board members wages and bonuses with Disney stock that has to be kept and frozen in for years. In those positions you are supposedly there to ensure the long term health of the company, prove it. If the corporation's stock keeps tanking, the well will be pretty dry for those at the top. Also, more cement shoes and less golden parachutes.

[@mrcliff3709]

Or have when they bomb they lose the bonus and such for that period. That's how it worked at one job I had, we fuck up and go overbudget kiss your bonus goodbye for that fiscal period

[@jodi2847]

To presume the intent behind the criticism is how these activists sleep at night and stay the course. That way they don't have to address the actual points made and can simply dismiss, ignore, and demoralize the critic. "You're only saying this because you're one of THOSE! If you were one of US, on the good moral side, you'd love our films and stand with us in unity!"

[@DamienDarkside]

That's why the chant is "Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss"

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

To be honest he's right about some of us, I wouldn't lie about it but a lot would. He's climbed the Hollywood ladder so i'm fairly sure he knows a liar when he sees one, game respects game and all that. I think the real cope is that they tell themselves at night that they are the inevitable future and we are some old fossil when the reality is the complete opposite.

[@commotiocordis1037]

@@dontcallthemliberals3316 There's a lot of cope and blinders going on in middle management and above right now. I suspect as the recession hits and excess administrative positions start getting axed, you'll see at least a little bit of a pivot towards not shooting oneself in the foot.

[@ohsweetmystery]

The lefty activists are full of racism and rage and they simply cannot envision the people who are not.

[@denkerbosu3551]

They can't say what's a woman, so wtf do they know it's moral or not?

[@susanalderson8267]

Disney seems to have forgotten, THEY need US, WE don't need THEM!

[@12crows1]

A bad movie is a bad movie, it doesn't matter if the leading actor is female or male!

[@vincent207]

The audience is not obligated to lap up whatever the studios put out. If we’re not interested, then we’re not interested.

[@NickB283]

Imagine making food that everyone spits out in disgust and then telling them that it’s not going to change but you demand they keep giving you money anyway. Disney is the entertainment version of this concept.

[@misugita]

Disney is like an abusive boyfriend that can't seem to understand why she won't come back, even though he is in jail and she is happily married with three kids. It is just a relentless denial of reality.

[@croaton07]

An abusive partner. Women can be asses, too.

[@hawkeye5955]

​@@croaton07: As an example, Amber Heard.

[@rogerlarsen5328]

Only it is an abuseive girlfriend who, because she is a girl, thinks it is impossible for her to do anything wrong.

[@20th_century_Ghost]

I know that you mentioned middle America being fed up, but I grew up in 1980s Philadelphia, right down the street from Rocky Balboa's house; and I, like you, gentlemen, watched the slow degradation of the entertainment industry over the past two decades. I never in a million years would have ever imagined that one day Disney would be in support of such abhorrent behaviors that are being pushed by Hollywood. I feel like we're in a twisted version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

[@alphacause]

Disney executives are about as idiotic and arrogant as a vegan who tries to take a much beloved neighborhood steakhouse, retain the name of that steakhouse, but turn it completely vegan, all the while berating the customers for not liking this change and castigating them as animal haters.

[@jongreen9171]

I like animals, especially the ones you can eat

[@bobblehat6603]

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[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

They go down as easy as a vegan too once you stand up to them.

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

You can't beat apathy. You can silence people. You can take away their right to protest. But you can't take an intrinsic feeling on a mass scale, and that is just not caring.

[@disgruntleddude]

We come to be entertained, Hollywood. Not to be told what to think by people who should but do not know better.

[@heartysquid]

And we will be entertained...popcorn while it burns slowly to the ground? 😀🤏🍿

[@TarossBlackburn]

@@heartysquid Let me get the fiddle.

[@GermanWeaselZA]

I don’t have money to say thanks that way, but I just have to say thanks to you guys. You guys work so hard to expose what we all are thinking. Thank you.

[@BruceBergman]

DEI based films need to go away. 1:14

[@patricklewis9787]

It’ll be around as long as people are paying their taxes, literally

[@ReturnOfHeresy]

@@patricklewis9787 Or at least as long as they have investments managed by the big 3.

[@lemond2007]

No such thing as a based DEI film.

[@jw1415]

Disney believes that all fans dislike women, even parents with daughters. Admitting that their movies are bad, is a tough pill to gulp.

[@Cassp0nk]

Even my daughters aren’t interested in their movies now

[@wavegun]

Loved the 'Am I out of touch?' thumbnail! Yes Di$ney, you are badly out of touch.

[@tophat2115]

There are great women characters out there from Leia to Ripley to Sarah Conners. They did not need to tear down one sex to build the other up. The characters had flaws, they had to struggle, they weren't smug and dismissive of others.

[@JoakimOtamaa]

Connor*, also they demoted Leia from a princess (should be queen since her adoptive parents died with the planet) and made her a general bwcause that's progressive? Disnwy is built on princesses, why do they hate everything?

[@keiichi8191]

Disney Exec: "It's not that our movies are crap. They're just filled with things the audience doesn't want."

[@tylorhobbs8920]

Clearly the audience wants the wrong things, and we need to educate them on what they should want.

[@HumanAction76]

My wife and had our first date to see a Disney movie, 27 years ago. We own shares of Disney. We then moved to Florida so we could go to Disney World often. We owned all the Disney VHS and DVDs. We saw all MCU movies on day 1, and then again the same week. That is all to say we were huge Disney fans... and we no longer have D+ or go to the theater to see Disney movies. We still go to the parks, but the more they remove the classic Disney theming, the less we are going. Still haven't seen any MCU movie after Multiverse of madness. Iger has destroyed the Disney brand.

[@phoenixdzk]

Abed said it best in Community: TV defeats its own purpose when it’s pushing an agenda, or trying to defeat other TV, or being proud or ashamed of itself for existing.

[@tylerharris7081]

I think the turning point was when Disney went out against the "Don't Say Gay" bill. That decision told every parent and Disney kid that makes up the backbone of the Disney fandom the the company has betrayed them for woke. Up till that point, we were willing to tolerate most of Disney's BS.

[@erikvarela2045]

The irony of Black Panther in this whole discussion of polarizing politics is that the ideology that Disney has decided on is the one espoused by the villain of that film. Because frankly, the character of T'Challa is pretty centrist when you look at him as both a superhero and a politician.

[@michelemorgan2051]

“They don’t go out and protest, make a big deal…”the quote might not be exact, but you are SPOT ON. I mourn the loss of what Disney was for my family and now theirs, but we have all walked away from everything Disney in just that manner.

[@mrbleak9873]

I mean Jesus Christ I tried watching Multiverse of Madness last night and I was just pissed off for the majority of the film. Who the fuck signed off on that crap? Absolute nonsense. Terrible writing.

[@JamesPoe-tr1tm]

It's an awful movie but that bee scene had me laughing so hard.😅😅😅

[@thecoach3577]

I haven’t gone to the theater in months, maybe even a year. It’s the saddest thing for me, because it’s one of my favorite things to do. But I’m not just gonna go watch something just because of that. There hasn’t been a decent movie in theaters in forever, and Disney certainly isn’t helping.

[@RagnarokiaNG]

I love how people saying "This is bad" is now code for some conspiracy of hating agendas and values but being too cowardly to admit it. Rather than it meaning... its bad. It's just bad.

[@theunknowncommenter725]

Disney has been high on California's smog fumes for too long. They're in desperate need of fresh air.

[@somethingclever8916]

Hollywood is ignoring that theres a recession and its too expensive to go to the movie. And most of us are just streaming

[@lance134679]

I like how out of touch Marvel was with Black Panther, where in the US, they were calling it a "cultural moment", but in Africa, it was a joke. Really it's just something a couple white guys from New York made up in the '60s to add some diversity to Marvel Comics.

[@petethehawk5186]

They way some people think of Wakanda as a real place is like when I talk to my relatives that live up north. I live in Florida and it doesn’t matter what time of year it is they always think I’m either at or had just gone to, or planning to go the beach or Disney World. That’s what Florida is to them…the beach and Disney World lol.

[@lance134679]

@@petethehawk5186 We also think that gators will steal your pets when you're out for a walk.

[@alaskadrifter]

With how expensive it is to take a family to the theaters these days it’s got to be something special in order to go now.

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

They don't even need to abandon most of their goals. They need to write a story, an actual story. But it's now obvious they didn't care at all about writing a story, it's all about the politics.

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

Bro they are the elite of course they care about the prestige of being adored for an amazing achievement. They ALL want to be George Lucas. The problem is IQ decline, they literally couldn't make a good movie if they wanted to and a lot of their writers are only there because of affirmative action. The real, cold, hard blackpill is that they ARE genuinely trying their little hearts out and everyone hates it, that's where the rage comes from. It's the pain of a narcissist experiencing true rejection. EDIT: you can even live test this with a prediction, I hereby predict that if Elon buys Disney the quality of movies will not improve, nor will they ever if made by Americans.

[@violetmoon2283]

I love how they said that it's the segment of the audience that doesn't want to see the political messaging that has become "politicized". Literally all we're asking for is that they stop making propaganda and start making movies again.

[@InfernosReaper]

It is sad how many Americans, including black ones, see Africa in through the lens of stereotypes and/or fantasy instead of getting to know the *real* Africa and the *real* history, which are far more interesting than the fictions. When I saw that dude with the big disc in his lip, I was like "is *really* what they think an African country that's centuries ahead of us would be like?!" and then there was the whole "trial by combat to be king" thing which should probably have been "trial by combat to be Black Panther" instead That doesn't even get into what is implied back the fact "the *only* reason Wakanda is so advanced is they lucked their way into a super metal and super soldier serum plant so none of their neighbors could be a threat to them" ya know, minus whatever unspoken bloody history led to those handful of tribes uniting to for their nation.

[@HowToChangeName]

Its so good knowing Im guilty for bankrupting megacorporation from the comfort of my room by doing nothing really

[@hitmanmonaghan6633]

“Wakanda isn’t real.” “Neither is Hogwarts.” “I……never said it was.”

[@stormcutter59]

Do these people REALLY believe I'll see their movies when they keep telling me how much they hate me? This isn't out of touch.....this is just insanity

[@Thx1138sober]

Dear Disney, go fork yourself in the ask

[@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763]

Apparently they LIKE that.

[@tetraquark2402]

Disney has to persuade me to watch their films. I'm under no obligation to watch them.

[@croaton07]

You can complain all you want, disney, but at the end of the day, we have the power, not you. Your job is to make movies fans want to see, not movies YOU want them to see. It's not complicated to understand.

[@lukeymuffler6265]

New owners of my local convenience store have completely turned it to shit. Hot food's basically all gone, they don't regularly re-stock, never put up weekly special tickets, and it always smells like a soiled nappy in there now for some weird reason. It used to be inviting and was worth the extra price for what it offered. I've heard the new owner complain as if it's the customers fault they're not making any money.

[@deethy19]

Imagine having your head so far up your own AR$E you don’t understand making money involves giving the consumer what they want!😂😂😂

[@johndoe1.196]

Because Marxists don't comprehend economics.

[@gladiatorscoops4907]

The other Simpsons meme i like to use for Disney is when the Simpsons and others are stuck down the well. Homer says "We'll dig our way out!" Wiggum: "no no dig up stupid!" Homer is Disney we are Chief Wiggum.

[@davidunderwood5]

People don’t like our movies?! That’s unpossible! 😅

[@dominusetdeus060644]

I can't believe we used to mock companies for just wanting to make money and now i just want them to go back to wanting to make money 😐

[@tom2gunzbombadil689]

It's evidently my fault that something I've followed like Marvel from childhood with comics n cartoons and Star wars which I've absolutely loved since ESB no longer even registers on my interest scale. I jst decided on my own that I would now ignore the things I've loved for almost 40 years. 🤔

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

I would go a step further I'm actually sentimental about hating them now tbh.

[@higgydufrane]

I don't doubt that they think that they are not the problem. They are living in an alternate reality where the customers are always wrong.

[@Omar_listenin]

Was Madam Web a movie or a pepsi commercial?

[@docsavage8640]

Why would I watch either?

[@rjbennett3418]

Hearing a drunken Scotsman talking about middle america is my new favorite thing.

[@sylance777]

We have a large extended family. We used to see Marvel movies on opening weekend, 12 or more tickets easily. At first, we stopped because we didn't trust Disney to sneak in a scene we didn't want our children to see (looking at you Eternals) but now we don't want to give Disney our money even if the movie is good (GotG-3).

[@nobobynnobody]

Fwiw Dial of Destiny had a ~5 month window to streaming. Came out in July in cinemas and Disney+ in December. I am genuinely curious if it translated into subscriptions. I never heard anything about it's Streaming ratings (or minutes viewed, whatever the metric is)

[@kevinizatt4358]

Dont feel bad guys, i live in Wyoming in the us and those same people think we all dress as cowboys and ride horses.

[@StriderDSC]

My old sports coaches always used to say that criticism of your performance was a good thing because it showed you that the coaches cared and were trying to make you better. You only ever needed to be worried if they stopped because then it means they gave up on you. That's where Disney is now. Fans critiqued, they refused to listen, then blamed the audience for it. Now, nobody even bothers because they just don't care about it and I think that says enough.

[@katgirl3000]

When you read how the executive said that the fans are the ones to blame there are so many levels of absurd plus some ironic truth I laughed so hard that I nearly choked on my dinner! :). Another fantastic review!

[@Bosch_Bosch]

I even consider paying KZbin the fee they want to go ad-free to avoid my kids being exposed to Frozen III trailers.

[@HollywoodVoiceActor]

“If people don’t want to go to the picture, nobody can stop them.” -Samuel Goldwyn

[@MrJeffcoley1]

I remember years ago when a website featuring violent, gory content had a pop up asking if the person was over 18. If you clicked "no" it re-directed you out to the Disney website. These days the Disney website is probably worse.

[@3rdpig]

I'm not just ignoring their movies, I'm ignoring the entire company and every product and service they have. They are dead to me. And I grew up living less than a mile from Disneyland and we went several times every summer. It was the best times of my childhood. Oh Disney, how you have fallen!

[@Apocalypse_Meow...]

"Matthew Bologna..." 🤭😂🤣 How can you ever take this guy seriously?!? 🤣🤣🤣👍😎

[@InconspicuousBot]

Disney must have thought it was too big to fail that it could mold its consumers rather than adapt to them.

[@notKevinFeige]

07:39 Drinker kinda hit the nail on the head with this one, it's ironic, the ones that make protests and noises got what they wanted, and those who don't are leaving, and because the heads of Disney never thought of this possibility, the company its going down

[@mrburgess1698]

They say a bad workman always blames his tools but bad film makers always blames their audience.

[@PyroMancer2k]

The funny thing is it just shows how bad these people are at business. Let's assume that he was 100% right about the "reason" the movies were not doing well. Then how about you take a business 101 class and learn "The customer is always right." Or "Give the customer what they want." Let's say it's an ice cream business that's been selling Vanilla ice cream for years and suddenly wants to make only Chocolate ice cream. Then sales tank and the CEO of the company comes out and says "People saying our ice cream is terrible is just code for they don't like Chocolate and want more Vanilla." So a GOOD businessman would go, "Maybe we should start making more Vanilla ice cream." Instead they double down and continue to wander why their sales are tanking.

[@blueshellhater1845]

Disney really replaced EA as the most disliked company

[@Lee-vk1xy]

It's interesting that the exec managed to put himself in a position where even if he's right he's wrong. As an executive of a publicly held company he is suppose to be doing his best for the stockholders. The fans were his customers and are still potential customers. Making films that are incredibly expensive that don't appeal to broad audiences is pretty much guaranteed to if not loose money to minimize any profit. Given the amount of evidence the last few years have supplied I wouldn't be surprised to see the courts get involved before long.

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

Elon Musk considering a purchase will probably accelerate this.

[@macmcleod1188]

It's not just a social conditioning. Is the fact that it used to cost about 3/4 of an hour of work to go to a movie and get a little bit of snacks. Now it costs between 1.5 to 2 hours of work to go to a movie and get some refreshments. Movies with price themselves out of the market on an inflation adjusted basis.

[@BrunoMosor]

Remember Adam Savage's: "I reject your reality, and substitute my own" quote from Mythbusters, and you'll come closer to understanding such mindsets.

[@mikkelnpetersen]

"How dare the plebs not worship everything we make, how dare they decide for themselves what they like and don't" - Disney

[@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin]

The fans are ignoring Disney and the "un-named" executive. Hey, "Un/Bob" you just got Bud Lited..

[@jamied1579]

One of the biggest problems I had with Black Panther was that even though the Wakandans have had advanced technology for centuries, perhaps even millennia, they still adhere to ridiculously primitive, stone-age rituals and customs - including designing skyscrapers with grass huts incorporated into their design