The Critical Drinker and Shallow Conservative Critique

I got a lot of requests for covering videos like these, and the effect they may have in pushing people rightward. I wanted to do more than point out boring or lazy readings of movies and TV shows, and luckily I happened to be watching Battlestar Galactica while working on this video, which helped me get to some cool stuff in the second half of the video.
Also, since I imagine people might be curious about what I thought about Battlestar, I really enjoyed it.
Thanks to @JessieGender1 for some help with research on some of the Star Trek stuff.
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[@andymurray8620]

A really annoying thing about The Critical Drinker is how every once in a while KZbin thinks I want to watch it

[@thecountalucard666]

I know, *factually*, that I asked KZbin not to recommend me his videos, and yet they somehow still keep showing up.

[@trennerdios]

Yuuup that's the only reason I knew he existed. From the video titles I could tell his stuff wasn't anything of value and basically the opposite of what I want, so just another example of the algorithm pushing specific things despite it not truly being related to anything I normally consume on here.

[@samb8744]

Me too, it’s the simplest metric in showing his support is inorganic and pushed on insecure losers.

[@theobell2002]

There's a browser extension that allows you to block KZbin channels. I highly recommend it.

[@HishamA.N_Comicbroe]

​@AirstripOne-nd4du Had a similar experience

[@FancyTophatDude]

Painting Oda and One Piece as a conservative anti-woke work can truly only come from someone who has absolutely no idea what this story actually is.

[@theGIFTcast]

Dude literally has a Che Guevara picture on his desk

[@pitbullnamedcupcake8485]

The sheer irony of being a “film critic” while possessing absolutely zero media literacy is as hilarious as it is sad

[@LOL-zu1zr]

Bro is like: big boba woman means conservative and not woke

[@EdgarJ00]

thinking about one piece as a conservative work is as bad as thinking it like a progressive/woke work just because there's some trans there and there. one piece is just a good adventure manga/anime about adventures with almost nonexistent political messages and that's it. we may start to recognize this, so we may avoid another progressive fans meltdown against oda calling him transph*obic just because he ended up not recognizing Yamato as a man just because she refers herself as such, ignoring the reason as to why she considers herself as such (yeah, that actually happened).

[@walterbiggenback4678]

He did the same thing with lord of the rings and most things he critiques. Its clear he uses his influence and presumed 'chadness' to pretend he's deep in the lore while spewing his antiwoke message.

[@johnleeka3282]

I think its funny how drinker complains about a woman beating up a man being “unrealistic” but in john wick 4 there is a character who is blind and is able to take out dozens of trained killers without breaking a sweat(something FAR more unbelievable than a woman beating a man) And yet as far as i remember drinker never had a problem with that and most likely just “suspended his disbelief” And his argument doesn’t even really make sense considering that im pretty sure he likes kill bill, which by his own logic is probably the worst case.💀 (Bride killing an entire dojo of ninjas)

[@TheGrayExplorer]

The problem with your rational is nuanced. The Bride didnt win the fight because she was stronger than the men (which is where the disbelief needs to be suspended) the bride won because she was more skillful (no suspension of disbelief required) the same could be argued about the blind character in JW4

[@philipdawes2661]

If you take the battle of Stamford bridge, famous for the viking warrior who held a bridge against the pursuing victorious anglo-saxons while his own army retreats in defeat - the guy was huge with matching strength (ended by being stabbed by a spear from beneath the wooden bridge) - this is believable not just because it actually happened, but because the guy had the stature, skill and location to make it possible. If you remove both the stature and the capability then it becomes 'fantasy', size matters, skill is important but is not a panacea. Criticals', and others, point is that the women shown usually lacks the stature (sometimes the skills too, why editing it vital, but even good editing cannot disguise a lack of it) - Kill Bill, both films, are realistic in their portrayal, if subject to artistic licence, most so called 'mary sue' types are lacking, in obvious ways, realistic requirements and portrayals. eg Galadriel escaping from prison in amazons Rings of Power. There are lots of good examples of 'strong female warrior' types that are not lambasted, because they are 'realistic' rather than 'complete fantasy' types. Authenticity and realism matter, they separate actual stories from puff pieces.

[@thefatherinthecave943]

@@TheGrayExploreryou’re subscribed to critical drinker

[@Trode22]

But have you considered how cool it is to be in your 40s wearing shades indoors with a bottle of whiskey in hand

[@SonicRainbpw]

there are exceptions to everything

[@frogglen6350]

Critical Boomer

[@Yuuki_Asuna]

he makes more than your whole descendance doing that,he living good

[@frogglen6350]

@@Yuuki_Asuna The movies he complains about make more than Drinker

[@tw20239]

Ah yes, the classic fan boy comment about how the person being criticized is richer than the criticizer ​@@Yuuki_Asuna

[@NecRock]

Man beats up half a dozen bad guys in a movie: eh, suspension of disbelief. Woman beats up one bad guy in a movie: WOMEN CAN'T DO THAT!

[@jimmyowens758]

That always bugs me. An unarmed person knocking out ten guys at once is impossible, whether it's a man or a woman doing it. But somehow when it's Jason Statham, it's believable.

[@manicpreacher1566]

I remember Michelle Yeoh fought a man with a chainsaw.

[@TransientWitch]

@@jimmyowens758Oh, it's not *impossible* - just REALLY unlikely!

[@CleverGirlAAH]

I'm a regular Drinker watcher and I roll my eyes every time he says that.

[@DarkPanda558]

The Marvels still failed tho. So did Suicide Squad; Horizon Forbidden West anyone? How bout Forspoken? Give the target demographic (men) what they want to see and we’ll go see it. Simple as. Heck, why not go back to making women super attractive in movies and video games? Sounds good to me.

[@brionosullivan1992]

CDs comments at 26:55 is absolutely bonkers to me. The idea that you can’t relate to character because they don’t act like someone you know is crazy. I don’t know anyone who actually acts like, let’s say, Spike from Cowboy Bebop. But that’s exactly why he’s an interesting character! He’s a strange self destructive guy, but he’s well written and three dimensional. Obviously characters need to be relatable in some sense yes, but if every character acts like someone you know they’ll never surprise you. What a boring way to see media.

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

CD's favorite genre is Coffee Shop AU

[@yungmuney5903]

His real point is that men aren't being what they 'SHOULD' be, y'know, everything that your typical reactionary macho patriarch misandrist fetishize about men. They can't cry, have to be stoic, tough everything out, be violent and aggressive, fuck many women as they can etc.

[@braintrust12]

wow really?! that’s a legit insane take to me. i thought Spike was incredibly relatable. his confidence, his terrible win-loss record when it comes to bountyhunting, leaving old food in the fridge, getting annoyed with your coworkers, feeling stuck, feeling bored, feeling self destructive… basically everything about Spike and everything he has to endure is something I’ve seen men in real life deal with. More often than not, the “men” is me. Seemed like a based take by drinker to me: if the characters behave in ways that are counter intuitive to the experiences and expectations of the audience, then the audience will be detached. In the end you can have your “surprise” and “subverted expectations,” but no one will care because they couldn’t relate to the character.

[@aidanb58]

@@braintrust12 That's just not really how audiences have been shown to react, though. Like some people might relate to specific aspects of a character, and some people might not, but the notion that people get "detached" when a character doesn't act like the viewer or something the viewer has directly experienced.. As a recent example, Lucy from the new fallout show has some relatable qualities, but also starts off the series being pretty fundamentally detached from the average viewer. She's sheltered, peppy, and naive. Besides that, she belongs to a vastly different culture. But when we as viewers see that different culture, when we see her talk openly about something as bizarre as casually sleeping with your cousin (jesus) the audience doesn't just check out because they can't relate, they use that difference as a point of humor, as a bit of a look into the setting, and as a point of comparison we can use as she grows and comes into contact with others. This isn't some new "subvert expectation" fad, people just generally don't need a laundry list of "x is like me, I need to relate x to my life" to find a character interesting or fun.

[@braintrust12]

@@aidanb58 i think you’re missing the point. It’s not that the audience “checks out” when they can’t relate to the protagonist. on the contrary, the audience can’t get invested in the protagonist’s struggle to victory when the protagonist is unrelateable - therefore, there is no drama. That’s screenwriting 101. There’s a reason the protagonist in literally every critically acclaimed movie is relatable and doesn’t want to screw their cousin. case in point: it’s relatable to the audience when marty mcfly becomes panicked and disgusted when his mom starts flirting with him. everybody in the audience agrees it’s disgusting to flirt with your mom. therefore, marty mcfly - an all time great protagonist. Maybe there’s a reason he’s marty mcfly and there’s a reason Lucy from the new fallout tv show is “lucy from the new fallout tv show.” Also you’re vastly overestimating how many characteristics the protagonist needs to share with the audience. It’s not a “laundry list,” it’s like 2 or 3 things: the protagonist is 1. down on their luck 2. pure of heart/intent 3. has an ambition or some kind of goal in the face of adversity. That’s it. Luke Skywalker, indiana jones, harry potter, spiderman, ripley, forrest gump. There’s a reason all those characters are written with those same 3 qualifying characteristics and considered all time great protagonists.

[@plumdowner1941]

Critical Drinker when he goes to the store and sees a woman (supermarkets are now pushing a woke agenda)

[@acorlite]

😂

[@swizingsn127]

You clearly don't watch him

[@lultimodeilancelot3990]

@@swizingsn127 oh that is very much the type of shit he says

[@Double1784]

@@lultimodeilancelot3990 You watch critical drinker? tell me how many times have he said “the message”?

[@giantpinkcat]

​​@@Double1784 If I had a dollar for every time I'd be richer than Elon by now.

[@maize3201]

Critical drinker lost me with his across the spiderverse review. He praises the movie for like 99% of the video then suddenly drops the whole “Peter is being humiliated and undermined in order to make miles look better” shit. Despite the fact that Peter being a dorky father of his daughter with Mary Jane is basically fan service for Spider-Man fans. Also completely ignores the fact that Peter is clearly still a badass since he was the only one who was able to catch up with miles (besides Miguel) and has a whole ass convo with him. It truly felt like he just needed to find something “woke” to complain about to satisfy his fans.

[@ForsakenKrios]

I’ve never liked him, but out of curiosity I watched his Andor review because I figured he would find a way to complain about it, despite the show being, ostensibly, the antidote to the criticism of generic corporate slop they hide behind as a critique. Lo and behold, he spends the review praising it, then randomly goes on a tangent about how woke it was but you could ignore those aspects. The wokeness? The lesbian characters. Whose sexuality is secondary, hell even tertiary, to their characters and role in the story. And the fact that they had a committed, but strained, relationship underneath everything that he had to complain about it offhandedly. Out of obligation to his business model? His “deeply” held reactionary beliefs? So frustrating countless people eat this up.

[@ElkiLG]

@@ForsakenKriosThe grift is too powerful. You gotta pander to the weirdos to keep the grift going.

[@HitoriSanzo]

In Spiderman 2 the game, Peter is indeed hamulated and shoved to the side to make Miles the star look better. I haven't seen the across spiders movie nor said review, but it's hard to imagine that wasn't the case

[@maize3201]

@@HitoriSanzo it’s not the case at all, the spiderverse movies respect Peter in a way that most comics don’t even do nowadays. There’s more of a case to be made in Spider-man 2 admittedly. The passing of the torch theme is heavy handed for sure but I’d still say it’s a huge stretch to say he was humiliated or shoved to the side considering he carries like 80% of plot in that game.

[@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286]

No,he wasn't@@HitoriSanzo

[@MasteroftheRitz]

Drinker comes off as a dude who was beaten up by a girl at one point in his life and has never gotten over it.

[@bigpest]

More like lost a running race to a girl once in 3rd grade.

[@pitbullnamedcupcake8485]

He got beat up by a girl in P.E. Class back in middle school and that was his villain origin story 😂

[@qorso]

Bro needs to take the fujimoto method to heart.

[@CybershamanX]

Hence the unhealthy drinking persona. Go figure. 🙄

[@TheOneManWhoBeatYou]

Yeah, he hates women so much he married one, get your head out of your ass

[@finbharasa7777]

I find it so rich that Critical Drinker will praise the One Piece live action for "reinforcing traditional gender norms" despite the fact that the main charcter is the polar opposite of his conception of the classic male archetype. Luffy is the furthest thing from stoic and emotionally distant I think he just fixates on women characters because he desperately wants them to be one dimensional helpless and dependant on men rather than be original

[@Peasham]

To be completely fair, Netflix One Piece did make Zoro more like that as opposed to a dumb hillbilly lmao

[@MrEvldreamr]

I really dont get how this is the takeaway. The takeaway was that zoro wasnt reduced as a character to make nami better than him. That was the damn point. And a very valid criticism of most of drinkers complaints about big budget film. If you bothered to check other films aside from the cherry pocked ones on this channel. Lets use indiana jones for example. You saw this massive reduction of jones character. Which soured longtime fans of the franchise. Its a BAD TAKE. if you watched his praise of dune and blue eyed samurai youll see it isnt traditional gender norms he wants enforced. But a character that goes through a realistic journey that ISNT preachy. Hence why he recommended shogun, blue eyed samurai and dune.

[@Peasham]

@@MrEvldreamr Blue Eye Samurai and Dune both reduce male characters to enhance the women. I also like how Indie getting old was a "reduction", wow, ya don't say. Unless you're talking about him being outsmarted by women, in which case I implore you watch a single Indiana Jones movie.

[@finbharasa7777]

@@MrEvldreamr I wasn't talking about Zoro. I was talking about Drinker's preconceived notions of what men and women should be like in movies and shows The fact of the matter is that the dude is wildly inconsistent and only talks about the "wokeness" of a show that suffers from terrible writing because that's an easy W for him. The whole point of this video is to expose his very clear political bias and how that makes him a terrible media critic because he can't engage with it beyond complaining about "modern films being woke". It's quite lazy honestly

[@MrEvldreamr]

@finbharasa7777 and if you read my response you would understand how shallow your response is. Let me explain: The simple reality (I'm ignoring drinker now) is that Hollywood execs, producers, directors, and even actors have this agenda to push for more DEI. This isn't me talking, literally everyone in film has stated this as their mission statement full stop. Cool. NOBODY has an issue with more diversity, people have an issue with demolishing demographics that don't fit with this DEI push, leading to shallow checkboxing and even MORE shallow writing. (In the past this was called tokenism, substitur tokenism with wokis. And you have the same problem more or less) This fundamentally is what drinker criticizes(and many, many others who are NOT conservative AT ALL) Shogun, one piece and blue eyed samurai are CLEARLY DEI. But the themes are universal, carefully, crafted and sentimental. Not checkboxing and not preaching to the audience like say she-hulk or most or marvel at this point in time.There is no reduction of male characters in order to beef up female ones. Another example I will give is the new last Airbender live action. While not " bad" it isn't good either. Much of what made the characters unique but FLAWED was stripped in the live action. Almost as if producers were afraid to show the deep flawed thinking (sokkas sexism and kataras 'mom-like behavior) both of which were explained in the show perfectly. They lost their mom so Kamara filled in. They lost their dad (and all the men to war) so sokka took mantle as protector even though he had no clue what being a man or protector meant at all. They were CHILDREN OF WAR.Katara was NEVER a warrior, neither was her mother. She was a girl with gifts, who sought to use those gifts to HELP in any way she could, it just so happened that teaching the avatar was the way (and even then she sucked compared to him and had to get better). These character reductions are EVERYWHERE in film and media these days. It's more shocking NOT to see it at this point. again it's tomappeal to modern audiences, even though these execs don't seem to know who they are. What audience are they appealing to? Fans of a franchise? The general public? Women? Men? Black? Asians? The films that correctly identifiy their audience do the best. The ones that force-fed do the worst. Sci-fi and fantasy are MALE GENRES. Meaning men overwhelmingly enjoy these stories. So why the handfisted female crap? Romance and drama are OVERHWEMLINGLY female.... so why is Disney removing romance from their narratives? Who are they appealing to?

[@bealotcoolerifyoudid7217]

I live in Japan and his attempts to review anything Japanese always boils my blood. He DOESN'T understand the culture and its ups and downs its history and clearly just uses everything to push his agenda. While blaming others of the same. Truly a grifter.

[@AeonPhoenix]

Most anime tends to be centrist or left-leaning, but these anti-woke morons thinks anime suits the right because... stupid reasons (And they also fail to consider Yaoi/Yuri or hentai in general, which makes them even more ignorant).

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

So he's a weeb?

[@AeonPhoenix]

@@ChristopherSadlowski A tasteless one at that.

[@kaylemathewcomendador6964]

How many Japanese stuff has Drinker even reviewed?

[@bealotcoolerifyoudid7217]

@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 few, including Shogun, Last Samurai and suprisingly bunch of live action remakes of certain anime. Which he by his own admition doesn't know shit about - HOWEVER that doesn't stop him from inserting his conservative takling points into them. So it's less about 'oh how many bla bla' it's more about even those few he did, he immediately filled the gaps in his knowledge by ignorance and political messaging. So, basically the things he himself loves to critique. Just idiocy, really. His info is outdated at best, intentionally manipulative at worst.

[@BatMan-qr3kf]

The comment about how it's because of Japanese culture that men are stronger then women in the show is wild to me. There are so many anime and manga where women, usually teenage girls, destroy fully grown men in a fight easily.

[@darksaint0124]

The Japanese main duo of the beta male and alpha female is very common in light novels, manga, and anime.

[@kappadarwin9476]

Yeah the rugged alpha chad these guys hype up is nowhere to be seen in those types of stories. They are often painted as bad people too because they care more about power, pride and self indulgence. CD pretty much wants a protag that acts like DBZ Vegeta when he was more of a jerk.

[@zephyr8072]

CD: I HATE HOW WESTERN HOLLYWOOD CONSTANTLY HAS SMALL WOMEN BEAT BIG STRONG MEN. Also CD: *forgets that manga and anime practically invented this* This seems to stem from a particularly bizarre sort of conservative weeb culture that idealises Japan as some sort of bastion of “traditional masculinity”. It’s somewhat similar to the alphachad Andrew Tate types who are convinced that slavic women are traditional and submissive and therefore superior to degenerate western women then move over to eastern europe and are surprised no one will date them.

[@stevebeshel9418]

@@kappadarwin9476 And Vegeta got his but kicked by a girl (Android 18).

[@starmaker75]

Yeah let's not forget the whole "soft/feminine boy and tomboy/masculine girl duo" (or the ralsei and Susie duo I call it) that manga is using alot

[@DrowningInChocolate]

i laughed out loud at the "unlike other shows the men aren't getting outsmarted by the women" because one of the first things i thought about live action one piece is that nami carries the team's one and only brain cell. this isn't a critique of live action one piece--i loved it--it's just how this particular team's dynamic comes across.

[@Kirferyan]

“Outsmarted by the women” NAMI LITERALLY WORKS AS A SPY AND, IN THE MANGA, CONSTANTLY MAKES SMART AND COMPETENT PLAYS TO KEEP BOTH HER TEAM SAFE AND ARLONG HAPPY WHAT IS THIS MAN ONNNNNNN

[@endergeek236]

​@@Kirferyan Yeah. Like, remember when she stabbed her hand to make it look like she killed Usopp? That was fucking metal!

[@mikaelste-marie1275]

Yeah, SHE IS THE NAVIGATOR OF THE SHIP, she has the only braincell until other crew are in.

[@saladman420]

If nami wasn’t there they wouldn’t have made it out of the grand line 😭

[@lazilypunctual2863]

That’s pretty much how it is for the gang in the East Blue in the anime haven’t read the manga but I can’t imagine the dynamic being much different

[@Sivick314]

i used to like critical drinker, but then he said something positive about the daily wire's production company and the absolute trash they push out and i was like "whoa, i thought you were above this political bs?" that he would look past the absolute garbage just because it fit with his narrative really soured me on his ability to analyze and criticize things objectively and i unsubbed from his channel.

[@PinHeadSupliciumwtf]

There's a reason he isn't named thinker.

[@acorlite]

😂

[@henocksherlock3340]

There's also a reason why this Jose, the reddit-tier argument regurgitator, always deletes the opposing comments🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@adolfushitler9402]

Because he drinks to forget how dog shit films have become... Only they get worse.

[@bluekey1470]

@@henocksherlock3340 when has he deleted comments?

[@ZephyrFate]

@@adolfushitler9402 Except films have never been better.

[@StevoDesign]

I liked Drinker for a while because was dunking on trash that I already thought was trash, but over time it became obvious that he framed almost EVERYTHING in terms of feminism and diversity. It got really boring and he just seemed more and more like a hateful, narrowminded person. I'm not surprised by any of his takes in this video haha.

[@LordyT34]

Yeah same, it felt like it stopped poking fun at left wing pandering to just being hateful. Everytime a woman or person of color appears he claims that's where all flaws come from.

[@d00mshr00med]

@StevoDesign Almost everything in Hollywood is framed that way by Hollywood. He’s just observing it.

[@spikem5950]

Yeah, I liked Drinker for a time because a lot of what he was critiquing at the time was genuinely just dogshit, but the fact that he can look at a bad or sub-par movie and his takeaway is "it's the wokeness, that's why it's bad" is beyond infuriating.

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

Check out his Drinker Recommends videos, they are different. I've had a similar experience but not as dramatic as yours.

[@brandonhaag52]

@@LordyT34this^. Honest facts

[@phoenixfire6433]

In his recent video about the Oscars a lot of his fans were saying that since Boy and the Heron won Best Animated Feature, somehow it was some gigantic anti-woke win. Ah yes. A movie directed, animated and brought to life by a feminist and environmentalist who was constantly trolled for his publicly left-wing views and even criticised the Orange Man as a “terrible choice” is somehow a win for “anti-wokeness”.

[@charlesb.phillips5337]

These people consider any thing that "beats" or isn't Disney to be anti-woke, which makes it very funny is that you could say that the Disney movie was the less woke of all the nominees.

[@phoenixfire6433]

@@charlesb.phillips5337It seriously was though. Elemental is by no means specifically “woke” at all.

[@rickrollfan777]

I dont wanna watch his video on the oscars but I'm curious if he said anything about any of the other nominees because a lot of the films that were nominated seem a step above his usual fare. I wanna know if he ever mentions watching and comprehending movies like Past Lives, Anatomy of a Fall, or even Oppenheimer.

[@dyrr836]

​@@charlesb.phillips5337 It's very funny that Disney somehow ended up the poster boy for "wokeness." Nothing more leftist than a hyper capitalist megacorp trying to create a monopoly and lobby their way into changing entire laws to make even more money.

[@thedukealastor]

@@rickrollfan777I wouldn't doubt that he's watched more than half of the movies, but the discourse he engages in doesn't focus on neutral "Oscar bait" like Oppenheimer or Past Lives (haven't seen AoaF so I don't know about that one). He too often hyperfocuses on films that reinforce THE MESSAGE he wants to deliver to his audience but lacks the self-awareness to recognize this despite the fact that he is capable of offering intelligent discourse.

[@joshknight2463]

Imagine watching Star Trek, a utopian future where everyone is equal and then missing the point of that to get angry at women

[@hannibalb8276]

Of all the terrible, terrible things right wingers do, bastardizing Star Trek like this is probably the very worst one.

[@smarterthanall1659]

Star Trek is a shallow poorly thought-out setting based purely on delusional optimism. The future of humanity will be much closer to Dune.

[@laurentiuvladutmanea3622]

@@smarterthanall1659 1. Someone is offended. 2. The future is undetermined, you fatalist individual. It will be as good or as bad as we make it be. 3. No, Dune is not more realistical then Star Trek at all, and you know it.

[@TurboMintyFresh]

You obviously miss the point of his criticisms then

[@ChristophelusPulps]

@@TurboMintyFresh Missing the point is a core cultural element of this channel, it seems.

[@canadaclub8920]

I caught him on a twitch stream once and he really did low key admit he doesn't really fairly "critique" these movies he just tears down "liberal" movies because "thats what they do to us"

[@Scoopsdepoop]

The Critical Drinker was once called a dork by a woman when he was younger and has been on a war path since.

[@pitbullnamedcupcake8485]

His sheer distain for women and love for macho tough guys leads me to believe that Drinker has some deep thoughts that he’s too uncomfortable to confront.

[@LOL-zu1zr]

@@pitbullnamedcupcake8485average conservative

[@Njordin2010]

@@LOL-zu1zr simple ad hominem

[@susiek4593]

@@Njordin2010average conservative 👍

[@Njordin2010]

@@susiek4593 honestly? i get more insults and ad hominem from the left than the right. we need a more healthy debate culture. you both can do better than that.

[@HEX_17]

Using a picture of Eiji Aonuma when talking about Oda is the funniest thing

[@charlesb.phillips5337]

When Akira Toriyama died I saw some News report that used pictures of Hayao Miyazaki and Go Nagai.

[@ShinigamiKristak]

@@charlesb.phillips5337 oof

[@kenlee4356]

​@@charlesb.phillips5337how do you even f up that badly?

[@charlesb.phillips5337]

@@kenlee4356 Being generous I'd like to think that is a mixture of laziness and misunderstanding, in fact when I googled Oda the third image was Eiji Aonuma and next to it Akira Toriyama, also some mangakas are very private and there's few or even any pictures of them.

[@viktorthevictor6240]

Me knowing nothing about anime, I thought for a split second Eiji had a hand in One Piece.

[@logicalparadox815]

I can now not un-hear how drinker ends almost every sentence by emphasizing the second to last syllable and lengthening the final one. It drives me mad.

[@directorgumby.]

Listening to a man pretend to be drunk and self reports how he’s the last person a woman would want to hangout with is so crazy

[@Azrael__]

He's been married since 2009 and has two kids.

[@directorgumby.]

I feel bad for them

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

wow youre so...... awful. typical leftist. dude exposes YOUR OWN ideologies and overblown tolerance and wokeness and you feel bad for his kids. what. you'd like one of your leftist trans men to take care of his kids? you love it@@directorgumby.

[@oXRaptorzXo]

@@Azrael__unlucky

[@luigiwiiUU]

@@Azrael__ what a shitshow of a family then, i see no hope for this

[@imoutofluck7836]

hilarious to me that he uses original mulan and star trek in particular as an example of media that doesn’t have leftist political messaging

[@pengwin_]

The Star Trek example might be one of the best examples of poor media literacy I have ever seen from a reviewer.

[@Kamfrenchie]

But that's because the original Mulan is pretty far from current leftism culture. She doesn't win because she's physicly stronger and has more chi, etc. She wins because she takes advantage of her wits to make up for the strenght disparity

[@1kaz1]

​@@Kamfrenchie she wins because of her wits but it's not to make up for anything, the male characters fail at the same things she does

[@dyrr836]

Mulan especially is a movie that takes place in China (scary), stars a woman (woke) who disguises herself as a man (gender politics) and has mild romantic tension with a male character while doing so (forced LGBT themes). Like you don't even have to dig very far to see how on paper it's everything that rightoids whine about lmao.

[@mr.dalerobinson]

@@Kamfrenchiewhat’s ‘current leftism culture’? I’ll tell you what it’s not - the childish strawman argument RWs desperately want to believe in. It’s always been primarily about class and wealth inequality, like how the right has always been about keeping establishment exploitation continuing.

[@cplus14]

"They made One Piece right-wing, as Oda intended." Do people take this unripe brain seriously?

[@zephyr8072]

His fans are even more ignorant of anime and manga than he is, and fully buy into the fabricated notion that Japan is one of the last bastions of alphachad masculinity against the degenerate west. So yes.

[@Tacom4ster]

They numb themselves with cherry flavored blue pills

[@CapslockGoD]

Man... they will be preeeetty upset at the direction One Piece takes.

[@mrptr9013]

​@@CapslockGoDI want to be a fly in the wall when they learn about Big Mom

[@zephyr8072]

*Critical Drinker wails in despair* "You were the chosen one! It was said you would destroy the woke not join them! Bring alphachad masculinity to western media, not leave it in transness!"

[@AxeActly]

I used to watch the critical drinker but when I realized all he talks about is "uuuuur the woke liberulz" I unsubbed very quick.

[@Nooroodin84]

Same

[@deepflare1028]

Same here man, same here. You can still catch a bunch of his regular watchers in these comment sections disregarding the fact that he makes a big deal about "wokeness"

[@RaveDecoy242]

People like him are critical to anything but themselves. He should just keep drinking, and drinking, and drinking until he reaches a critical point in his life. Now he can truly claim to be a Critical Drinker.

[@jemenfish5408]

Tried the after hours videos and where he teams up with like-minded people? There's one guy that is constantly screaming louder than the others and unabashedly shaming people and coming across on a high horse then at one point picks his nose in front of the live camera, glorious stuff. Drinker himself, the history is astounding, he was/is a writer of cliché books full of tropes and was criticised for exactly that, nobody was buying them, and at the start made videos without the glasses and the persona and tried various things. The moment he saw something that worked he clung onto it for dear life, went all-in, THEN started piling on his political views more and more, to the point of reviews now being half filled with pandering and hate and not the movie. The most hysterical thing is the trailer he released for an upcoming self produced movie 'Because, Hollywood is so bad now, so instead of criticising it, we thought, why not do it ourselves', then the trailer is totally FULL of tropes and clichés, exactly what he was bashed about in the books, which are the origin. While constantly griping about Hollywood using boring old clichés and tropes :D Also: Look up some of his older videos, without glasses quite an unhinged look at times, as if he's either on more powerful stuff than alcohol, or has an issue. There is no way such a person can drink as much as he's boasting, or even drink as much as in those 3 hour videos 'after hours' and still speak coherently.

[@NekoRoboFunDumpster]

Yeah me too

[@GhostRavenFIN]

The Critical Drinker fits into that meme, where the therapist asks him "is the woke revolution here in the room with us now?"

[@henocksherlock3340]

As opposed to lefties' seething walls of texts rife with vacant twitter cultural mαrxist buzzwords on your daily-basis leftie reddit threads, where you ramble of being a dog-walker for 20hours/week 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@orozcodavid101]

@@henocksherlock3340 Are the “cultural Marxists” in the room with us right now?

[@henocksherlock3340]

@@orozcodavid101 at least it's not oxymoronic, unlike mUh "right wing faycihsm"

[@orozcodavid101]

@@henocksherlock3340 You keep using that word but I don’t think you realize it doesn’t mean what you think it means.

[@glibfacsimile]

@@orozcodavid101 Just like socialism and fascism, your meme is outdated.

[@eevee6930]

I will say the live action Mulan accidentally changes the message to "women can are just as good as men and can be heroes if they get the chance" to "special women with superior genes and abnormal psychical ability can compete with and outdo men" I don't understand why they had to put the chi thing in because it feels more like a way of justifying her talent when the entire point is that women don't need to be special to be as good as men. That's why in the original she's just a regular girl with no special gifts. You might say she's smarter than the men but I read that as her simply rejecting toxic masculinity and it's obsession with strength over wit. The men can be just as clever as her if they reject their gender roles and stereotypes, which is how they buy Mulan enough time to save the day when they decide to put on drag(a very literally breaking of gender expectations).

[@PuddingXXL]

So true! He just outright forgets that Mulans Squad crossdresses to flirt and distract the guards. It makes me wanna scream in frustration. I'm not a fan of the new Mulan movie because of the Chi and how the Emperor is done. It's certainly not because Mulan is OP but moreso because of pacing and narrative issues regarding Mulans motivation in the third act.

[@vlastelinprislic286]

You don't mind her being a block of wood without a character arc though?

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

''I don't understand why they had to put the chi thing in because it feels more like a way of justifying her talent when the entire point is that women don't need to be special to be as good as men.'' But they do. Women aren't half as physically capable as men normally. And if you train both, that disparity only gets bigger, not smaller. I hate how many comments like this still exist. Why do you people not make all sports unisex if you're so confident women can compete with men?

[@raffzz453]

​@@TheStraightestWhitestWe found the Critical Drinker fan.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@@raffzz453 And as crazed leftists usually do, they don't respond to a single argument you made, assume random shit about you, and then try to assassinate the person making the argument based on those assumptions rather than tackling it, likely because they have none of their own because they are living in La La Land and the argument consists of facts they cannot deny.

[@gnocchidokie]

Basically Drinker's opinion on men and women in film seems to boil down to "men depicted in movies are exceptional examples of men, and women depicted in movies are exceptions to 'real life' women."

[@TBOTSS]

He has never hinted let alone said anything of the sort.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

yeah, he somehow has no problem with Men doing insane Superman shit, but if a woman can fight, holy shit! that's not realistic, and that's what I despise with people like these, they're cowards who can't outright say they want women to be portrayed in an ultra-traditionalist backwards way and very conservative, so they twist themselves into pretzels and they're stupid enough that even then they make no sense because why should women be portrayed completely realistically in a movie or a show? since when we watched something and were like "that's not possible IRL", that's literally what movies and series and literature are all about, they're fun because they're not realistic I find it pathetic how slimy people like Drinker and Nerdrotic are with how much they desperately try to hide their backwards ideology as 'reason'

[@destroyerofturtles5024]

@@TBOTSSliterally just watch the first 10 minutes of the video.

[@TBOTSS]

@@destroyerofturtles5024 I watched the whole thing what are you talking about?

[@joshuawilliams8252]

​@@TBOTSSHe basically says that in every review.

[@properduction2586]

There’s a film called “Prey” which he made fun of before it even came out and when the film turned out to be successful both critically and commercially,he decided to change the title of his video…Same thing happened when he made fun of Glass Onion…This dude is a clown and so is the rest of the circus called “EFAP”…

[@jordanmitchell380]

It's quite sad to see they have a bigger audience than you'd expect them to.

[@gwell66v2AnimeReviews]

Never really thought anything that bad of Mauler or Jay Exci. Both make fantastic stuff.

[@Milessalt]

He made two different videos

[@GeneralTaco155555a]

​@@gwell66v2AnimeReviews Mauler literally does the same shit, but spreads it out over ten hours so you don't notice it as much. Quantity doesn't equal quality, and Mauler's opinions and "critiques" are just as vapidly conservative as Critical Drinker's are. I honestly don't understand Jay engaging with them. Idk if it's cognitive dissonance, an "I can change him" mindset, or just not caring that your friends fundamentally don't like who you are, but it's weird.

[@Peasham]

Been saying this for years!

[@Magnus_Mundus]

I have watched some of his videos in the past. What bothered me from the start, however, was his romanticization of alcoholism and later his transparent and permanent dislike of women . You can assert that it's partially satire, but as time went on, it became pretty clear that maybe the guy should talk to a therapist.

[@Counciloften]

Couldn't have summerised it better, he's the epitome of being that drunk, loud mouthed, bitter, divorced, opinionated tit in the pub whom spouts the same boreish tiresome hate filled diatribes in love with his own voice, that the other patrons just wish he would either sod off or pass out quietly in their own piss.

[@eliasgibson2878]

I used to watch drinker until I picked up on his hypocrisy. He gets mad at "modern movies" for not having pure evil bad guys and "always giving them sob stories" but then complains when nazi characters are villains without sympathetic traits. He talks about how its a good thing that James Bond is unrealistic because it's a power fantasy but women being strong is bad because it's unrealistic. He has no concrete views or beliefs, he'll make any argument to defend right wing values even if those arguments go against other arguments he's made

[@DimT670]

They dont actually contradict themselves if you understand hes just a sexist. Women arent allowed power fantasy because they are women, men require it. 0 contradictions here in his mind. Hed decry realistically strong women too. hes the kinda guy to mock a top female weighlifter even tho shes stronger than 99% of men because he thinks shes doing something wrong because shes a woman I remember once having a conversation of this type with a dude of this ilk on quora about women in medieval fights etc, he baseically went "ok enjoy yout 6 feet tall buff amazons, but most women arent like that". And i was like "but were talking on the context of joining an army, do you not think its more likely that the physically gifted would join? Is vikings or the last kingdom full of 1.78 tall lanky dudes or fat men who get wheezy after a stroll? It doesnt make sense

[@Edax_Royeaux]

I remember in the span of two weeks, he was complaining that Hollywood was making remakes (he was moaning about Highlander), then in another video complaining Hollywood isn't making enough remakes like the The Mummy 1999 film because "fun isn't allowed anymore". If there ever was someone guilty of fun policing Hollywood films, he even conveniently failed to mention The Mummy 1999 was a remake to push his narrative.

[@rokkarokka120]

@@DimT670i wonder how much women are into Weapons and Gun parts, and how much men are into gossip and fashion, percentage wise.

[@milesmohrien8964]

@@rokkarokka120i think you would be surprised

[@kagutsuchi969]

@rokkarokka120 Do you think these interests are biologically innate or taught? Do you think men are genetically predisposed to like cars and sports, and that women have a genetic drive to enjoy spa days? Or is it more that boys are taught that certain interests (ballet, poetry, sewing) aren’t “for men” and therefore are wrong for the them to participate in under threat of communal ridicule and emasculation and likewise for girls?

[@WilsonMayberry]

I will never forget the time he thought Oldboy (2003) and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon were both Japanese. Really amazes me how popular he is.

[@thevilified6041]

Lol, yeah that’s pretty bad for a “film critic”

[@joebloggs2908]

@@thevilified6041Except if it was the interview I just watched, he didn't forget. He was talking about Japanese or Korean movies being popular, then when asked about which Japanese movies he liked he mentioned those two and then mentioned that they weren't Japanese.

[@eko9554]

I found out he got famous during 2018-2020 which is weird considering I thought he got his start around 2013-2017. His username sounds outdated and being an anti SJW is very dated in that time.

[@KhiemNguyen-ly1wz]

Well Oldboy was adapted from a manga so I supposed you could considered it Japanese if you squint

[@TiggerTiger-le8kc]

@@thevilified6041 He's not actually a critic, he just rants about stuff he doesn't like.

[@ntsocializing]

"Men gets beaten up by women is unrealistic." But he forgot that half the time the women are trained fighters or have powers going against thugs or going after someone with same skills as them.

[@PatrickWDunne]

His own movie has the MC talk about how he's going to take down five opponents. Unrealistic!

[@seanryan3020]

And he seems to have no problem with one man single-handedly beating up a whole gang. Spoiler alert: Nobody is *that* tough!

[@bradleysaunders1730]

spoiler alert: you were wrong its happened and some guys are that durable they tank hits and knock everyone else out cold.

[@laurentiuvladutmanea3622]

@@bradleysaunders1730 That is objectively false. Nobody is can over power 12 people at the same time in reality.

[@MichaelDavis-mk4me]

The real problem in movies is underestimating how much training and strength matters. It does not matter your gender, if you go up against someone who is much bigger than you and / or is better trained, you are screwed. You need both the muscle and the training. And yes, women in general are going in at a massive disadvantage when it comes to hand to hand combat, they can get the training, but even unprofessional, but trained men will outperform top female athletes in sports or combat (a bit less true in cardio or skill based sports). Of course, as you mentioned, thugs or untrained people will still naturally lose, given they have no idea what they are doing.

[@YasugoLiehu]

It's funny that the Critical Drinker cites the Netflix Cowboy Bebop series as being "woke", therefore "bad", when in reality it's actually less woke than the original anime. The original anime, especially at the time, was _super_ left leaning, and explicitly so.

[@theancientsam]

oh yeah i remember when *** ****** ***** ******* wild thing to see as a kid

[@_9br]

.... right for the time in 90s japan where it was super controversial and left leaning to show guns and cleavage and an anti-capitalism thats not at all comparable to the twitter kind of leftism of today which is basically just a new form of censorship the very thing cowboy bebop was against. youre just parroting some youtube video arent you

[@_9br]

... the original cowboy bebop was controversial and left leaning cause it was anti capitalistic and showed gun violence which is basically the norm for tv now. thats not at all comparable to todays leftism which is just a new form of censorship the very thing the original cowboy bebop was against. youre just parroting some youtube video you dont really understand arent you

[@_9br]

... right "at the time". the original cowboy bebop was controversial and left leaning because it had an anti capitalist message and shootouts. thats not at all comparable to todays leftism which is just a new form of censorship the very thing the anime was against. stop parroting youtube videos and use your brain for once

[@pipjerriyt1354]

Yea I remember in the anime, Spike opens a room and disturbs a gay couple from having sex. I think he was looking for somebody.

[@phangkuanhoong7967]

It's quite sad that they still haven't found a new meme besides the screaming person. Also, the drinker calling himself an anarchist is the joke of the century.

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

They can't leave that poor women alone and she wasn't raging at all she was yelling while in a good mod

[@gregvs.theworld451]

@@USSAnimeNCC- As if context and facts are going to get in the way of their feelings.

[@stevebeshel9418]

We should just bring up the PRONOUNS guy from now on in all our videos. Never let them live that moment down.

[@zephyr8072]

Considering what a toxic joke Trump turned American politics into which is still going on right now, the woman had every right to act like that. Not that people like CD would admit that of course, he has a fanbase of MAGA blowhards to pander to.

[@weirdofromhalo]

Anarcho-capitalists exist, even if it's an impossible ideology.

[@3dartxsi]

It is really something for a guy who melts down every time he sees a woman failing to conform to traditional gender roles in a film or TV show insisting that normal men just don't show emotion. The lack of self awareness is unreal.

[@OK-wm2mr]

​@@myuugithere is barely much of a difference with the drinker

[@pitsburg91]

@@myuugi I've actually seen said videos, and the thing is, if he likes the story, he tends to finally let go of his agnst against FICTIONAL films characters and who they can beat during fight scenes. As Jose pointed out, the discourse he is trying(and failing) to establish falls flat when his hypocrisy is shown in regards to male characters being able to beat waves upon waves of enemies(at times bigger than the protagonist). Also, when drinker DID mention the female heroes he liked, he did so after making the Ms. Marvel video in which he once again showed his bull**** hypocrisy by mentioning that female heroes tend to pass around the hero name. This is pathetic, given that he ignores the many Robins, the many Flash mantle holders, Antmans, Spawns, etc. Drinker is an angry incel that just cant admit that he hates current films, but needs to segway his hate into other things that piss him off, ergo anything that pisses off new-wave conservative zealotry. And before you mention that he also attacks the daily wire films...those were some mighty soft gloves he used for said reviews, INCLUDING the one for terror on the prairie, given his newfound love for gina carano AFTER her firing from Disney, seriously before that happned he admitted that she was hot but heavily criticised her role as an actress, only to later make a simp video about her.

[@3dartxsi]

@@myuugi yeah... The thing is, pointing out times when he has approved of female actions heroes would actually make him look worse. The way Jose makes it look, Drinker is just bad at critiquing media, including the examples you mention makes him look like a hypocrite. In a lot of ways it mirrors the case of Dirk Benedict. I distinctly remember him appearing in promotional materials for the reimagined series when it first premiered, and not only did he clearly approve of gender swapping Starbuck, he commented that he thought that Katee Sackhoff's Starbuck could kick his Starbuck's ass. He can't just be a bigot, he is a hypocrite too.

[@pitsburg91]

@3dartxsi Basically, Drinker liking a few female characters while shitting on others for having similar builds and fighting capabilities just makes it seem like he wants a get out of jail free card, essentially he has token female characters lol

[@YEY0806]

​@pitsburg91, his like a sexist "I have a black friend" guy

[@calebjordan5068]

His delivery is so annoying; it is like by the end of every sentence he is fighting off oxygen deprivation.

[@dee-you-see-kay]

its like he took narration lessons from chills lmao

[@thesummaryguy3911]

that "go away now" gimmick after EVERY video...by like the third video of his i watched (i liked the sharpe series and was searching for youtube videos back in the day and his popped up) caused me to just turn him off and cant listen since.

[@sapphicgal3245]

He sounds like he's constipated

[@pferreira1983]

Then listen to this moron then. 🤣🤣

[@plvmbvm513]

one of the most frustrating things about conservatives is that they can be right with their criticisms but for the wrong reasons often the criticism that "modern movies suck" followed by the explanation of how a franchise ruins what made the originals good (such as star wars) or a remake completely missing the point of the original (like mulan) has merit the problem is that their conclusion is that "they" are pushing "the message" on us, which demands us ask the question: who are "they" anyway, and what do they stand to gain from pushing this so-called "message?" they miss the point that disney has indeed repeatedly ruined properties it gets its hands on, but it isnt because disney is so "woke" that they cant help but force gayness and feminism into everything; its because disney is capitalist, and they are willing to sacrifice the soul of the stories that they tell if they think that it will make them more money. the biggest enemy of modern storytelling isn't the woke mob, but conservative old board members who dont give a flying fuck about the properties that their company owns, only that their margins improve.

[@acorlite]

this

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

"this" hyhehehe im so smart i write "THIS"@@acorlite

[@acorlite]

@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it okay, warren

[@Cybrix]

The only way you're able to have this opinion is if you're deliberately ignoring what every major player and every major journalistic publication in every major entertainment industry is plainly, and proudly, saying.

[@Peasham]

​@@CybrixPlease, explain how mega corporations are Marxist. I'm all ears.

[@samb8744]

Remember when Chris Ray Gun said he was offered a big deal by conservative funders to make his content explicitly conservative, but he said no? Critical Drinker just so happened to blow up after this revelation and 100% was a benefactor in that deal, which is why he so heavily pushes Sound of Freedom. Like so many other conservative channels, his popularity is inorganic and propped up by millionaire donors

[@Hoganply]

Yep, it's all a consipiracy. It's not like his outlook could resonate with anyone genuinely or anything.

[@slevinchannel7589]

My fellow Leftist's often have their brain melt at hearing simple explanations or claims lie "IF Toph or Katara or Zuko or were written to be Gay back then but all the rest, the quality and all, was IDENTICAL, then we would have no f-ing issue. But we very much would have if they now change it post-seriesend" Drinker looks too much through a rightwing-lense but at least his Criticism is on Point and his 'Why modern movies s-ck'-Video-Series is absolutely amazing

[@Los499]

​@@HoganplyOh, there are plenty of morons who would like that sort of content, but I think he's talking about the channel's exposure outside the moron demographic.

[@MrTheevilmage]

@@slevinchannel7589 " Drinker looks too much through a rightwing-lense but at least his Criticism is on Point" No they aren't its some of the worse, dogshit media analysis ever. The fucking Nostalgia critic is a better reviewer than the Critical drinker and Doug walker is playing a character!

[@zennistrad]

I think the Critical Drinker is a tool but this seems like a stretch.

[@JeddtheJedi]

31:57 when he's explaining why he likes the animated Mulan movie, Drinker says it teaches us that "a person's worth isn't defined by the size of their muscles", but he routinely gets upset about women defeating men in fights because women necessarily have smaller muscles than men and brings out charts and diagrams showing muscle size.

[@sebastianocampo71997]

Men is factually physically stronger than women like duh.

[@maxxymrice6200]

You don't always need big muscles to be a great fighter. Usually, people don't win fights by being the biggest and strongest, but by being the best fighter with the best combat skills, resourcefulness and unpredictably.

[@maxmfpayne]

​@@maxxymrice6200he showed a clip of Kill Bill at one point, The Bride uses a samurai sword almost exclusively, the fist/knife fight being with Vernita Greene (no idea if I spelled that right tbh) who's another women of comparable size at that. They also beat each other's asses. Most of the time, her weapon of choice is probably more suited to a woman if anything. She's faster and more agile, it makes sense she'd be awesome at it after all the training she endured.

[@crestren5996]

Its so...odd too because its an animated film directed towards family audiences written to show that you shouldnt treat people differently based on their gender, in the case of Mulan, she is strong as a man regardless of her status as a woman and she has proven herself strong. He could not grasp the lesson from a KIDS MOVIE

[@Imbalanxd]

​@maxxymrice6200 this is why weight divisions definitely aren't a thing and people definitely wouldn't be liable to die if they fought in the wrong class professionally

[@zoomingby]

Since so few comments here mention your work itself, I wanted take a moment to commend you on your remarkable communication and reasoning abilities. The quality of this essay is a testament to your talent and dedication. You articulate complex ideas with clarity and precision. You challenge viewers with thought-provoking insights. You have a stellar talent for analyzing complexity, looking at things from multiple perspectives, synthesizing information, and drawing well-reasoned conclusions. Seriously, kudos on a job really, really well done.

[@mundicox8951]

The Drinker lost me with his review of Barbie. Ive never seen someone miss the point that bad.

[@Steve-yn3cs]

He misses the point of almost.... Everything. Just like Moon(the conspiracy doomerist KZbinr).

[@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445]

​@@Steve-yn3cs What conspiracy stuff has he posted, I'm geniunely interested.

[@Steve-yn3cs]

@@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445 Stuff as ridiculous as the CCP is monitoring your Discord App. Or that Tiktok is somehow a weapon that the Chinese are using against the west in a cold war tactic. Basically, Moon is a guy that starts his video out with normal analysis of things as they are, until before you know it, he cranks it up to 11. Almost every single of his videos (like The Drinker always HAS to bash "wokeness" every time he reviews any movie that is even just slightly progressive) have to somehow link up back to the CCP or some unseen shadow cabal. At this point, some of his fans are tired of his doomerist perception of the world.

[@zenmaster8]

Wait till drinker finds out about the trans guy character where everyone respects his identity

[@Alex_Vir]

And the whole nation of crossdressers.

[@caegray6987]

There's a trans actor in the live action show too. Certain conservatives seem to think that if a media is popular it must be *because* it's conservative, and ignore any evidence to the contrary. Or maybe that's just the narrative they're pushing to their audience

[@Animefan24711]

And Kikunojo the trans swordswoman who came out around the same time Drinker was criticizing wokeness in media.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

this reminds me of anti-woke anime viewers who think 'Japanese Culture' is the last bulwark against 'western degeneracy/wokism', meanwhile they point to the most wokely written anime ever, my jaw literally hits the ground analyzing how their brain works, it should be studied by neurologists

[@Scaash]

People act like he just hates Trans characters and not that he is pointing out how pandering it is to the LGBTQ+ community that it is. If it apart of the story and has been well astablished I know I dont have a issue with it. It's when they take alread astablished characters and change them. I like my respresentation of my group to be authentic not some gotcha shock wow factor like it has become

[@jjoe7078]

You just need to see how hard he rips into anything marvel and just how easy he goes into “lady ballers”. It’s so obvious he’s a right winger and doesn’t want to piss off his anti woke audience.

[@lukepearson5931]

I can't believe he called it a rough gem and the dw a rising studio like they are going to replace all the major studios and not just give up on making movies like the wwe and regret it down the road because it was a waste of money.

[@xibalbalon8668]

I wonder if he gets mad at being called a conservative or bias. Because Lady Ballers is a prime example of things he claims to hate. A movie designed to be an political statement first, art second, exists to attack a specific group of people, funded by political ideologues, and aimed to be watched as a virtue signal. But it's right wing so it's just normal.

[@Sugarman96]

It's also very telling that the only indie movies he reviews are conservative propaganda pieces.

[@BaronVonQuiply]

_"I'm totes a lefty, fellow kids, but gosh darn, aren't republicans swell? They really are the bees knees and their policies are groovy. I'm a lefty by the way, don't call me a centrist, that's next year. Yup, big ole lefty doing big time high level idea lefty things like.... uh... voting for Mitch McConnell because he's so cowabunga, dudes!"_

[@nolabets3130]

@@BaronVonQuiply too wordy

[@Toolumens]

Put drinker in a ring with a female mma fighter and he’ll get to test his theory of men being naturally stronger first hand

[@kingpinpasta2934]

Oh I would give one of my fingers to see that dipshit go up against Amanda Nunes 1 on 1 let see how long he lasts before he’s begging for mercy

[@entertainmentfan1463]

Drunk is probably too much of a incel and virgin that he probably legit lives in a dark basement as a defence from everyday women, let alone a trained female fighter.

[@Walhor]

That argument dosen't make any sense. Might aswell give her a gun.

[@Walhor]

@@entertainmentfan1463 That's alot of grass grasping there. Why all the name calling?

[@TNTspaz]

I mean. Let Drinker train for it and I'm sure he could. The argument you are putting forward makes no sense. Are we really just straight up lying and saying that women are naturally stronger than men in this fan base? I don't care how far down the political rabbit hole you've gone. Saying this just to one up you're opponent makes you look like an idiot.

[@makisbizarreadventure4669]

I remember he tried to shit on Prey before it came out saying it was woke then tried to walk it back when it was good. After that he’s gone on the ignore list lol

[@Sugarman96]

I don't know if this is something Jose touches upon, but YMS points out a relevant issue with CD. CD claims to be a critic who loves movies and uses broad strokes to paint years as good or bad for movies, but he doesn't actually watch that many movies. His media diet consists of blockbusters and whatever Disney puts out, he doesn't go to festivals, he doesn't cover any foreign films, it's just whatever's trending at the moment.

[@The2012Aceman]

Actually he was confronted on this with EFAP, and YMS conceded that Critical Drinker DOES review indies, but his most popular critiques are about the most popular movies. Which… is obvious.

[@Sugarman96]

@@The2012Aceman What indies? A24 movies?

[@starmaker75]

Yeah I'm not munch cinema/movie guy(like I have seen my fair share cult and underrated movies and historic films) and yet I probably know more cinema stuff then drinker at time. I mean drinker doesn't really recommend or review that many "out there" or "cult" unless the popularity was slread. Like the closest I can think is maybe " sound of freedom". Hell even nostalgic critic had a fair amount of cult films reviews

[@ashb7]

It's probably good he doesn't review too many indies and festival films. With his staggeringly awful media literacy even when it comes to mainstream movies/TV/gaming, I don't think the world is ready for his takes on content that'd require him to at least exert a modicum of brainpower.

[@ijones36]

I always felt this is like saying a game reviewer reviews too many triple as. Most people are only gonna play triple A games and the most popular indies and double As. Like... yeah. Those are the main things in gaming cultural. If youre reviewing things in a broader cultural context, ofc indie and festival films arent gonna enter the conversation. Most people cant afford to go to film festivals and dive into indie films, even people who love movies. When discussing the state of movies in the modern day, only talking about what 99% of people watch is fine.

[@Tonberry2k]

So excited for this. I got roped in and watched 3-4 of his reviews before he started whining about “woke” and I noped out.

[@stevebeshel9418]

Even if you take all his whining about "woke" and diversity out, he's just a terrible reviewer in general. He just flat out lies about the movies he reviews to make them seem better or worse depending on what agenda he's trying to push.

[@Jimyrt.]

Was hoping for an unbiased criticism and praise as I like those sorts of videos but the continual mentioning of “wokism” and such really put me off.

[@GoblinMoistland]

same here, watched like two reviews and in the second one he started whining about abby from last of us part2 and I was like "maaaaaaaan, not another one :/" and noped out :D

[@Afgrahamistan]

I struggled trying to get though his horribly bad caricature voice of an alcoholic, I know he's exaggerating his real accent but it just sounds like someone doing a bad impression of a cartoon character.

[@Tonberry2k]

@@stevebeshel9418 Oh for sure. With so many thoughtful reviewers out there, why would anyone watch this dope (except to refill their rage-meters)?

[@cidschnubedubaubau6781]

It's weird that people like him think movies and stuff suddenly went woke in the last few years. By their standards, stories have always been woke because they have always tackled social politics. But when it's well written and makes for a good story they will praise it. And when it's badly written (or has certain "woke themes") they will slam it as woke infested garbage instead of actually pointing out it's flaws and meaningfully critique it. This makes their agenda quite clear. They're not media critics, they're political influencers.

[@acorlite]

!

[@TNTspaz]

Kind of ironic posting this on one of the most politically biased videos I've watched in a while.

[@fullaregrets5015]

Biased? Calling out a loser alcoholic?

[@orozcodavid101]

@@TNTspaz Kind of ironic posting that in defense of one of the most politically biased movie "reviewers"

[@fromhimarswithlove]

José sucks balls ⚽️ ⚽️💩

[@stewpacalypse7104]

Perhaps his view of the world is inaccurate because he usually sees it through the bottom of a whiskey bottle. He should probably sit down to a chat with someone to figure out his own issues before he claims to understand everyone else.

[@ShockArcl1te]

I get weirded out when reactionary types try to funnel down movie fights between men and women to just "stronger person wins." It's like they've never heard of agility, dexterity, or stealth. More over, weaponry usually evens the playing field dramatically, since it doesn't matter how much muscle mass you have if she can just slit your throat or shoot you. It's grade school playground logic to just default to "strength wins everything." I'm very tempted to say none of these guys have been in an actual fight, and certainly none of them has been in a fight with a woman trained in fighting.

[@MrGameadd1ct]

The other thing that also bugs me is that the heroes are EXCEPTIONAL and EXTRAORDINARY people. Yeah sure, you pull a random man and a random woman off the street, the men will probably win more than 50%. You pull a random man and Ronda Rousey, shes winning the majority of matches. Now you put Mike Tyson, and Ronda Rousey in an evironment where they can use their various skill sets and creativity, we've got no idea how it'll go. Tyson might have legendary bob and weave, but can he dodge a slam? Can Rousey even get into position with Tyson's rush. Can she tire Tyson out, like how Holyfield did?

[@ShockArcl1te]

@@MrGameadd1ct Women can play mind games just as well as men can. What if Tyson underestimates his opponent? What if she wants the win more? What if he keeps falling for a feint? What if she reminds him of a childhood friend? But no, surely it's all about a single stat on the character sheet. /s

[@yurifairy2969]

This guy has clearly never been in a fight with a woman before. Strength isn't everything. All it takes is one good hit to the temple and you're on the floor, doesn't matter who you are.

[@kristinatellefson4149]

Yeah, real history has plenty of badass women in it so what's wrong with having fictional ones? One of my favorites is Milunka Savic.

[@sirrivet9557]

I know biological women who have beaten men who had knives in fights. These clowns would so easily lose a fight to any women their weight from a ghetto.

[@TempoTronica]

Let's just take this moment to acknowledge that critical drinker would absolutely hate the animated Mulan if it came out today. He'd likely highlight the scene where Yao misses the rope, and would say, "in this movie, male characters are all bumbling idiots who can't accomplish anything, while Mulan is hyper competent and always saves the day despite her companions incompetence. Edit: you guys have done a great job showing you're not offended by other people's opinions. ~Jack Saint. Edit 2: I am noticing that a lot of you are leaving comments that make arguments I've already addressed. So I'm gonna periodically update this one with text from other comments I left. For those of you trying to counter me on this, almost none of your responses are actually worthwhile to me. All of them miss the point, and none of them actually counter what I've said. The fact is that the criticisms of other female heros he's presented to us are not levied consistently. Many of the things he dislikes about other female heros applies to the female heros he likes. So let's go through some of this. The reason why he doesn't dislike Mulan, is because of nostalgia. Bear with me, cause I am terrible with names. 1) Mulan manages to defeat her teacher during be a man. Sure, she has trained for it, but in another analysis CD essentially claimed that a woman would not be able to out-compete a man like this, even with training. Yet, with Mulan it's OK. 2) when Mulan disarms the bad guy, sorry, I cannot remember his name, it's seen as being due to her ingenuity. But disarming a seasoned sword fighter with a folding fan would take a ridiculous amount of strength. Something which would be caught and talked about if the movie came out today. 3) if we are willing to accept Mulan being so competent due to training, have you ever considered the fact that Captain Marvel was trained by both the US and Kree militaries? 4) why is fighting with ingenuity over raw physical strength bad when Captain Marval does it, but ok when Mulan does it? Captain Marval couldn't beat her main male rival in a competition of strength and hand to hand combat. She only ever beat him by using her powers. She recognized at the end that she could only beat him using her own skills rather than fighting on his terms. Not to worry though, I don't expect anyone to actually listen to what I'm saying here. It's just gonna continue with the whataboutisms, and other such deflections. I'll admit that ingenuity isn't really the correct term. Sure enough. But the fact of the matter is that she realized she couldn't take him without using her powers. She had spent the whole movie thinking she had to be able to handle him with raw physical strength, in hand to hand combat. It was a major blow to her sense of self worth. And the story was about overcoming that. By ingenuity, I meant that she fought within her means, using the tools she had that he lacked, instead of letting others dictate how she should go about the fight. The struggle of earning her power is irrelevant here for two reasons. 1) CD has already made claims that women cannot compete with men, even with training. This can be seen in the video we are commenting on. 2) It's still not being applied consistently. Plenty of characters got their power without any struggle or sacrifice. Captain America saw Steve undergoing training, sure. But he saw no advancement from the training. His only shining moments before getting the serum was that bit with the flag and the moment with the grenade. Both of these stem from previously established character traits and did not come about due to training. He had no physical attributes, or combat skill after training. That was all the serum. Superman has powers cause he landed on a planet with a yellow sun. Spider man got bit by a spider. Now, you could make an argument that sacrifice/struggle came about anyway. After all, each of the characters mentioned above had something to lose, and/or lost something after gaining powers. Think uncle Ben, for example. But different characters have different struggles. Carol Danvers is the most powerful character in her movie, as we can both agree. But is the conflict she was dealing with one that could be dealt with through raw power alone? Not a chance. Most of the film saw her against her own emotions and self worth, or against a foe that could be anyone. Her view on the conflict at hand in her movie was a primary struggle. One that is not easy to deal with. It's not an easy feat to look at your core fundamental beliefs and change your mind, after all.

[@colinjfordham]

I read this in his voice exactly lmao

[@a.f.schmied1571]

No, most likely he wouldn't. Just like he didn't hate Everythin Everywehe All at Once, a movie with a mostly female main cast, a strong fighting female lead that can even overpower men, a main character who is a lesbian, and a meek and pacifist beta male.

[@GirtheAlienGoldfish]

Then he'll just forget the entire part where Mulan is using her wits to fight an opponent that she knows can utterly annihilate her if she tried to overpower him. He'd seriously miss the entire point that regardless of her being outclassed by him as a warrior, her mind is stronger. Not one person takes him down, an ENTIRE TEAM takes him down because they used their brains to work together and find a solution. In Chinese media, Puck-like characters are valued over strength-focused characters. Education and knowledge beat strength and sheer force every time. This extends to Japanese media, somewhat.

[@llamaczech]

He'd also hate Sarah Connor. She doesn't actually do anything but is treated like she does everything, she goes on random feminist rants about how all men know how to do is destroy because they can't give birth, she doesn't have character development she self actualises (because those are two separate things apparently), she acts "like a man."

[@zephyr8072]

@@llamaczech She also beats the ass of a strong, heavy set asylum orderly who is trained to deal with and restrain psychotic patients, takes Dr. Silberman hostage and easily menaces Miles Dyson. There goes Sarah Connor the GIRLBOSS humiliating all men she comes across again!

[@espiritu2757]

I come back to this video every week, just to enjoy it again and again. Great video, I'm very glad somebody is calling out Critical Drinker and their entire conservative circle of "critique" for lacking actual critique and just screaming "go woke or go broke"

[@brandonspain12345]

Critical Drinker: "I don't like this" = WOKE!!!!!

[@acorlite]

basically

[@liamdalemon1525]

And vice versa.

[@MegaToonzNetwork]

@@liamdalemon1525 is woke! I AM WOKE! WE ARE ALLLLL WOKE!!!!!!

[@officialmonarchmusic]

Couldn't be more right

[@purpleblah2]

Whenever he says "men are bigger, faster, and stronger" the DK rap starts playing in my head

[@PatrickWDunne]

His coconut gun can fire in spurts! If he shoots ya, it's gonna hurt!

[@samfann1768]

He has no style, he has no grace! This kong has a funny face…

[@Jane-oz7pp]

THEY'RE THE LEAD MEMBERS, OF THE DK KREW

[@phoenixfire6433]

And then there’s Chunky! he’s dead

[@optillian4182]

He's the first member of the DK Crew! Huh!

[@JoseBird]

An earlier version of this video included some silent footage at 43:55 that was taken from a Drinker video. It supposed to be a clip of Drinker complaining about "modern audiences" that I was contrasting with Benedict's statements about the same thing. Somehow the audio got dropped when I was exporting the file, so I've edited it out of the live version and it'll be updated once it finishes processing. Apologies for the mistake!

[@AJ-nn5yl]

The rejection of women beating up men due to realism is so funny to me because watching almost any action movie involving hand to hand combat between 2 men is so clearly beyond realism. Movies like The Bourne Series, James bond, Mission impossible, John wick, etc, feature lengthy hand to hand combat scenes where even the 1v1 man on man combat scenes have both characters persevering through fight ending, crippling injuries, with inhuman endurance; as well as remarkably quick recovery time after the fight scene is concluded.

[@chrispaige8880]

Again, this is a straw man - the heroes you mention are depicted as being unusually skilled. If you've set up that your female character has unusual skills, fine, but these films don't do that. It's just Rey who's never seen a light saber in her life instantly knows how to use it better than a Jedi master to which he objects. Had they established that Rey (like Bond or Bourne or Wick) had special training over years, then nobody would object.

[@Sam-jx8tv]

Honestly thank you for making this.

[@Loggodover]

I always find it funny when these people say "modern movies are never good" and then when a good one comes out they say "this is the first good movie in years" and then completely ignore it's existence after 2 weeks so they can pretend the next one is the first good one in years Edit: check the replies if you need your daily "stupid argument from someone with awful film taste" fix

[@eko9554]

Yup. If they lived before the 21st century, they would say the same thing. They’re blinded by nostalgia. Just like how I’ve seen the over hate towards minimalistic art (which I do like it), in the 2030s and 2040s people will say it’s nostalgic just because it’s 2010s. Probably in the 80s people say they hate movies and hate Memphis design.

[@redtiger8275]

Yup, an infinite loop

[@Cybrix]

Bad movies used to just be bad, they didn't preach at you.

[@eko9554]

@@Cybrix Then how come you learned themes or social commentary in stories?

[@Cybrix]

@@eko9554There's a difference between human and universal values and ideological values. If you can recognize the clear shoehorning of ideology in christian "entertainment", you can recognize it in the vast majority of current-day Hollywood's output.

[@EmeralBookwise]

The expectations of male stereotypes are honestly one of the things I hate most about being one. I don't see any of myself in those types of stoic emotionally closed-off badasses, and I've spent far too much of my life feeling like a miserable failure for failing to live up to such standards.

[@dionysusNME]

And that is the real tragedy of the stupidity and self loathing Drinker and his cohorts spread

[@kzumf]

"I am not like other men" - doesn't mean others don't enjoy a capable strong man or a leader in movies. It's okay to have an opinion, but look at how men are portrayed in media in recent years. Stupid, incapable of getting something done, weak, expendable or just plain evil. That's why you don't like being one and are eager to claim, that you're not like "Male stereotypes". And that's why it's a good thing that people are pushing back against modern media and wokeness. It not the Nobel cause it began as anymore

[@Morgan597]

You should feel like a failure. Man up.

[@josh-oo]

I see the emotionally closed-off part of myself in those stoic, emotionally closed-off badasses, and I hate it. I'm only emotionally closed-off because no one ever cared if I was sad or angry or happy when I was growing up, unless it was to mock me for it, so now I'm terrified of showing emotion around other people. Strong male role model, right here. /s

[@vincentmalloy4424]

The first time that I ever saw a character on screen that I could say, "oh my... it's me... that's me on screen" was Shrek. lol

[@FosterZygote]

Listening to Drinker describe someone else as "a completely unlikable arsehole" had me laughing.

[@TheOneManWhoBeatYou]

Because you are one? Got it...

[@FosterZygote]

Did you make up that burn all by yourself? Here, let's stick it to the refrigerator with a banana magnet so everyone can admire it.

[@SwiftyDeejay]

Another soy latte-wielding flid 🤣

[@czevak89]

The thing I dislike the most about Drinker's take is that he sometimes gets extremely close to a good critique of a movie or tv show, only to then fall back to a conservatives perspective. Take Mulan: I agree with Drinker that her having "a lot of chi" in the live action adaptation was not a good idea. The cartoon did not have this "predestination" angle and Mulan was just a regular young woman. She was smart and resourceful, she had a strong sense of self-sacrifice, but there was no "inherent supernatural quality" with her - aside for a magical companion in Mushu, but he was not the key to her rise as a character and he mostly served as comedic relief. I believe this is a valid critique to the live action movie and a good reason to consider the original animated movie as more inspiring: every girl could look up to Mulan and be inspired by her determination and resourcefulness. But instead of pointing this out and maybe diving a little deeper, Drinker goes on a tirade about his idea of a girl boss and how woke culture is destroying media and how men are all inferior to Mulan... Like, you almost made a very valid observation, there!

[@ManiacX1999]

The great thing about the drinker is how you can become one too! Take a shot everytime he says "woke" and you'll be a mumbling alcoholic after 4 videos

[@daelen.cclark]

Or dead from alcohol poisoning.

[@gbrow1604]

Except for the fact that he doesn't even use that word and you're clearly pulling things out of your ass.

[@phoenixfire6433]

I’m not that fond of ethanol, thanks.

[@optillian4182]

I'd rather live, thanks.

[@jbofficial32]

I would be alive for over 100 years! Critical Drinker: "Woke. If there's one word I would like to erase from the English language, it would probably be that. It's a word that I try to avoid in my own reviews as much as possible because just like racism and sexism, it's been overused so much over the past few years that it's basically lost all meaning and relevance. It seems like every piece of online discourse about a new movie, TV show or video game inevitably devolves into whether or not it's woke, without really understanding what that word even means, and how to measure it." The rest can be found in his "what is woke" video. One of his best videos.

[@grfrjiglstan]

2010s commentary: “Japan is misogynistic, and that’s bad!” 2020s commentary: “Japan is misogynistic, and that’s good!” Sometimes things do go from bad to worse.

[@PenguinEconomics-st2ws]

You're wrong, people like Drinker thought that was good back in 2010 too.

[@muddman34]

Nobody would ever say that manga/anime doesn't have a problem with the writing of the women characters but him saying that the japanese wouldn't put up with domineering female characters overpowering men is insane. Japan loves their strong domineering female characters. If Chainsaw Man ever gets a live action CD is gonna lose his shit when Denji gets his ass handed to him almost every arc by a woman, sometimes more than once.

[@zephyr8072]

@@PenguinEconomics-st2ws If he did he wasn't as blatant about it.

[@thealphaincel1619]

Just because you personally don't like it doesn't make it misogynistic. Grow up.

[@starmaker75]

​@@muddman34yeah it like sure manga and anime do have problems writing women/girls at times, but acting like there is no dominant female characters in them is a level of willfully ignorance, like you have to be living under a deep rock for like 40 years or probably even more.

[@nobodyimportant281]

I stopped watching Critical Drinker after his Midsommar review. Don't think I've ever seen some miss the point of the movie as much as him.

[@juicedgoose]

His Midsommar video is the only review anyone needs to watch to discover exactly how limited his understanding of film is. Straight up embarrassing, glad you mentioned it.

[@CaptainCobbler]

That movie was rubbish and I'd be ashamed to merely know the plot rather than understand it. The movie made no sense and if I were a social activist who had a point that agreed with the message of the movie, I'd change my points.

[@amuroray9115]

@@CaptainCobbler someone who doesn’t understand what they’re watching should never be a critic/reviewer then. It makes for rubbish reviews. Common sense.

[@loicbosman4739]

His critique of that film included issues such as contrivences, bad quality dialogue and a lack of cause and affect, any film can be victim to these qualities, how was he wrong?

[@coolnerdlll6053]

​@@loicbosman4739 A movie about a depressed woman finding solace in a cult that manipulates her insecurities has no cause and effect. Excuse me?

[@entertainmentfan1463]

"The men are actually allowed to kick ass, and make decisions, and hold their own. Instead of exist purely to get outfought and outsmarted by their female counterparts at every opportunity." Okay I'm already sensing Drunk idiot never actually seen either the One Piece live action or the Cowboy Bebop live action. Because saying this is hilarious seeing how I recall Faye (from Cowboy Bebop) only ever fighting in all of ONE episode which she lost no less then proceeded to get restrained by the male characters. Pretty much every other fight in that show was done by Spike (the male lead) from what I remember. One Piece on the otherhand I recall pirate captain Alvida taking over a pirate ship and whopping a bunch of male characters as well as having her entirely male crew (from what I recall) being completely scared and subservient to her. Then there's Nami beating up a bunch of marine cadets. She even beats a dude whose outfit she stole twice. As well as beating various of Buggy's sidekicks. Zorro got knocked out by one of Kuro's female crew members and lost and gets humiliated every time he tries to fight his female friend Kuina. So it's ironic Drunk idiot is claiming this when the male characters actually lost more fights and got humiliated to a worse degree by the female characters in One Piece live action than Cowboy Bebop live action.

[@random_comic_fan]

Like someone else on here mentioned, either Drinker legitimately has zero media literacy or he intentionally misrepresents the media he reviews to pander to his audience.

[@entertainmentfan1463]

@@random_comic_fan It's probably both. Lets be honest. Drunk Idiot is well, and idiot, but his audience are even more brain damaged who just wants to scapegoat certain groups of people they hate for all their life's problems, so Drunktard can just get away with saying anything. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Drunktard is the type of person to say the video game industry is doing so well where Hollywood is succeeding because it follows more traditional and linear gender roles. Saying this unironically about a industry where many of the top selling games allows players to not only make a female main character, but make her gay too. Hell I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Drunktard is one of those people saying Disney is trying to push the "gay agenda" onto the world and that's why it's failing. Saying this unironically because Disney is actually the most restraint in allowing characters to be gay onscreen and services like Netflix is the service with both the most subscribed on the planet as well as most collection of gay characters.

[@JamesRindall]

True, he misinterpreted Kuina's words and thought the show agreed with her when everything points to the contrary. He just wants his own worldview regurgitated back to him in order to love a piece of media unconditionally even if he doesnt understand it.

[@VendettaSoundtracks]

The crazy thing about that quote is that, if you just flip it a little, he'd wholeheartedly disagree with it: "The women are actually allowed to kick ass, and make decisions, and hold their own. Instead of exist purely to get saved and used by their male counterparts at every opportunity."

[@D3AdMn]

Well he never watched bebop sooo

[@mrseaweed88]

"how could a women ever beat up a man" gives me the same vibes as a random dude saying he could beat a world class female athlete just because he's a guy 😂

[@JamesRindall]

lol that guy never saw a street fight, or pro combats, or fights in general. Women can do it.

[@dashmeetsingh9679]

Scientifically women has less dense bone than males. They are at direct disadvantage, biologically. Now please think, if Harley Quinn from Birds of Prey, drop kicking thugs (who are taller and bulkier), seems plausible or not. Or a woman soaking up punch on her face directly, of a dude who is atleast double in mass, and still doesnt show any scratch or sign of slowdown, looks plausible or not. Woman can beat man, but it has to be tactical. Taking advantage of sorrundings, like Jackie Chan/Jet Li used to beat bulkier thugs. Plus take any sport, woman teams/players usually arent comparable to their male counterparts. Lawn Tennis for example. Exceptions are always there, but there is a reason those examples are anomaly.

[@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445]

In Andor, a show he himself has praised (rightfully so, I might add), Andor also beats up a guy much larger than himself in the like first ten minutes or so. I guess he doesn't see this as a problem, since Cassian Andor also fulfills all his checklist points of a stoic male hero.

[@Nzosaba_Matenge]

I once saw a video by a female runner about a guy claiming he could beat her in a 800m race. She breaks down how she was keeping a slower pace in the first lap before leaving him in the dust during the second lap. There were guys in the comments ignoring her describe her performing a basic and common tactic to claim that this out of shape guy who has never competed was giving her trouble

[@Hawkatana]

And yet at the same time complain about trans people in sport.

[@ratbaby3107]

Ironic that he cites the original cowbow bebop as "anti woke" or an example of what he wants, and then complains about women kicking mens ass. As if Faye Valentine isnt right there, kicking ass.

[@ratbaby3107]

Also he acts as if cowboy bebop and it's characters arent already really grounded and surprisingly realistic. I don't think he's actually seen it

[@zomebody5529]

@@ratbaby3107 critical drinker just doesn't have much media literacy

[@Kamfrenchie]

Nah he's fine with mowen character kicking ass if there's a good reason

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

They're the one actaully pushing an agenda an agenda that enforce patriarchy, gender roles, and sexism and misogyny whlie they complain when someone say women are as capable as men or men can human instead of a cold and cutoff

[@RariettyC]

​@@ratbaby3107 Him complaining that the Netflix show made Cowboy Bebop's characters "more grounded and realistic" just proves that to me. Most of the characters felt so much more cartoon-y in live-action. The live-action show's tone leaned very heavily on comedy, and most of the plot points and character beats that they directly lifted from the anime came off as more absurd and exaggerated. Not saying that the anime didn't also have comedy, but the anime felt like it gave itself more permission to realistically breathe and contemplate while the live-action version felt like it had more pressure to keep throwing zany jokes and action scenes at its audience. To me, live-action Cowboy Bebop felt like a bunch of distilled stereotypes about what Westerners assume anime is "supposed" to be like, i.e. quirky and action-heavy, with minimal interrogation about what makes an individual anime like Cowboy Bebop distinct and special. Critical Drinker seems to be a victim of assuming those stereotypes himself.

[@johndick5298]

I find complaints about Star Trek suddenly going woke baffling. If there was ever a show that was open about pushing a progressive worldview, its star trek. It's like complaining about it suddenly going space.

[@thedarter]

Breaking news: Pirates of the Caribbean suddenly pushing pro-ocean agenda

[@TheLizardKing752]

I didn't care for Picard, but being too progressive was never a criticism that crossed my mind.

[@sgnox7781]

It`s like he has no issues with progressive media when its done right crazy you figured that out lmao. Problem with modern star trek is that its written like complete crap.

[@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819]

@@sgnox7781 You know I don't care about Star Trek anymore when I'm far more excited about the man who played Data reprising his role as Mr. Wheeler from Night Court.

[@shitmandood]

😆

[@bloedekuh]

One thing about the drinker is that he always blames the woke culture when the movie/game is bad, but if you swap the gender of the characters, those movies/games would still be bad. The more of his videos I watch, the less water his opinions hold.

[@Billiamwoods]

This is the funny part about guys like him. He's supposed to be a movie reviewer, yet because of the types of videos he makes, he can't actually just review and talk about the movies. If he made a review about a modern movie that was just bad, what would he actually have to say? Yet, because most modern movies (good and bad) tend to have many different types of people, he can act like there's some ideological fault causing this. And if the movie is actually good or clever, he can just misread it or take scenes where "a white man is put in his place" and say that's the movie. It's such a miserable way to live. Imagine watching One Piece and biting your fingernails waiting for something "woke" to come up. Also, it's kind of telling the kind of movies he does like. All of them are old movies, focus on men, and often critique people like him (Fight Club is one of his favourite movies), but he can consume movies like Taxi Driver without thinking about its message or analysing himself. His types are frankly utterly incurious in regards to art. Critical Drinker is the kind of guy who actually thinks every movie has to follow the Hero's Journey template. He doesn't enjoy the art of filmmaking or writing on a deeper level, which is fine- if you're not a film reviewer.

[@Mastermind4life]

As a man I am so happy all of you other fellas all saw some of that absolute wildness CD was spewing, and instantly knew he was bs. It literally made me fear for the future of masculinity, how crazy toxic that personality is.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Glad you feel a bit hopeful.

[@TreeHairedGingerAle]

Heh. If there's anything I've learned in my old age it's that decent guys really DO exist.... it's just, when we're looking around and we don't see any decent guys, then what we need to do is seek out better social circles

[@porgguy4962]

What do you think is the best example of that wildness you mention?

[@NorthernRealmJackal]

Me: watches one Jordan Peterson lecture. KZbin for six consecutive months: How about some old guy screaming about the "M-She-U" on stream, and the worst comment section in the history of telecommunications?

[@TheFriley4]

Well, what did we learn? Jordan Peterson, not even once. Lol

[@eko9554]

Jordan Peterson is like dr Phil

[@henocksherlock3340]

Sounds better than what you consoome on your lousy leftie reddit/twitter threads, where you ramble of being a dog-walker for 20hours/week🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrEvldreamr]

Thats just the algorithm. Youre either a bleeding heart communist or the kuklux klan nowadays

[@rodolfodoce]

youtube is a reactionary platform, just use the israel genocide of the Palestinian people and how youtube is practicing hasbara all the time.

[@cheatsheet3325]

In the name of realism, all fights should look like MMA.

[@gaiusjuliuspleaser]

Sweaty muscle men tight shorts rasslin' all over the ground? Hell yeah

[@Snipergoat1]

How about they just obey the laws of physics or make it look like the heroic girlboss has something to do with her victory and not like it's a stuntman jumping into she is supposed to be doing.

[@amateuroverlord8007]

lol most fights in real life look nothing like MMA.

[@54032Zepol]

​@@amateuroverlord8007you mean I didn't have wrestle on the ground naked with the other guy? Oh no!

[@zephyr8072]

@@Snipergoat1 I assume you want this with the men too? Or do you only notice fight choreography when women are involved?

[@InvaderKaz2008]

Drinker not understanding the very basic point of Kuina talking about the perceived inequality between men and women she had been fed all her life, and how ridiculously wrong it was especially in One Piece where there are countless awesome and strong women (to name a few: Boa Hancock, Big Mom, Nico Robin, Carrot, Baby 5, Koala, Yamato if you wish to count them), really ought to ruin his reputation as a critic.

[@YEY0806]

Conservatives not being intellectually challenged by bacteria challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

[@CrookiNari]

My bf watches Drinker and is constantly showing me clips or entire videos of his. One thing that bugged me about the Argylle video is that when he's talking about the movie, he lists the male stars but very specifically not Bryce Dallas Howard. It's not like she was the main character or anything... Edit: Also, his connection to The Daily Wire is dodgy af. Cynical Reviews made a much more harsh criticism of Lady Ballers but got a manual copyright strike from DW, while Drinker's lighter video did not get claimed. HMMMM.

[@qlka8609]

"Japan loves conservative media" yeah, one of the most popular drama in Japan airing lately was 2nd season of comedy-romance about gay couple... and no, they don't make fun of them beeing gays

[@eko9554]

Imagine his reaction to yuri and yaoi

[@Goetia544]

@@eko9554 Just goes to show how full of shit he is and why people shouldn’t take him seriously.

[@theshire9173]

Really? What's it called?

[@blackRXrider]

He'd cry about all the gay characters in Super Sentai and Kamen Rider.

[@justsomeguywithoutamustang6436]

What are you implying? As a conservative gay currently living in Japan, there's plenty of content catered to us. But you westerners injecting your politics where you see fit make life harder for us here 🤦

[@durzio9630]

Why the fuck does drinking skeptic talk like that? Its like if an announcer from WatchMojo was doing a drunken macho man randy savage impression.

[@cikka3425]

scottish paul joseph watson

[@AlexM-ky8on]

You mean you don't like how he emphasizes and growls out the last word of every sentence? Shocking.

[@AdumbDriver]

I've never watched a video of his purely because I heard his voice once and my soul said 'nope'

[@mikem4314]

i think the idea is that he's acting like he's drunk while doing the review. its epic reddit humor that went out of style like 10 years ago and is frankly embarrassing coming from a like, 40 year old man

[@connorsullivan1855]

Right? It would be fine for like a 10 to 20 second joke about someone watching a movie drunk, but how does this guy have an entire youtube channel where every video is him pretending to arguely slur his words? He's making Doug Walker and the rest of channel awesome look like scholars of comedic writing.

[@cloudofthought]

The way he speaks every word through his teeth, like he has lockjaw or something, is like nails on a chalkboard for me. A shallow critique of my own, I know.

[@iago9711]

This is anti-Scottish bigotry and I won't believe otherwise

[@DeshadCato]

Critical Drinker was one of the first film/pop culture critics I followed. His reviews used to be funny, tongue in cheek kind of affair to me but overtime they just got more and more mean spirited and specifically pointed towards what he considers the "woke agenda". He's not the only one tho. I think that whole "angry, pissed off culture critic" thing that was popular only a few years ago has aged like milk for most of the creators who made it their crutch. You can only play that type of persona for so long before it either wears thin or it wears you down and you become...well...like Critical Drinker. That, and there's not much room for actual nuance when your persona kinda puts you at odds with the content your consuming. Like...channels akin to Critical Drinker basically helped to re-invent the "hate watch" culture that we have today, but its hard to truly critique something in good faith whilst also basically hate watching it with the sole goal of picking it apart.

[@christiandecoster6132]

Favorite Critical Drinker moment (was a while ago so I might have some details wrong) was when he parroted that line about how "Japan's film industry is doing great because they're not political" and when asked for some Japanese movies he liked he stuttered, said he didn't watch any but that he heard Shin Godzilla (a movie with a ton of explicit political satire), Parasite (not Japanese, also explicitly anti-capitalist) and Squid Game (not Japanese, not a movie, explicitly anti-capitalist) were all good. Edit: I was wrong. He said Oldboy, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, and Battle Royale (which the host came up with and he agreed with). None of which are new, only one of which is Japanese so the point still stands that he was talking out of his ass. Just like I was, I guess.

[@ninavale.]

Godzilla...not political XD movie literally about a monster born from nuclear radiation and that was because of the trauma from Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings. Which were very much political. They happened during WW2...which is as literally political as things can get. CD honestly has zero research or critical thinking skills. despite his name. I guess he calls himself 'critical' because he's overly critical a.k.a negative about stuff XD

[@christiandecoster6132]

@@ninavale. Shin Godzilla is even more blatant, hitting you over the head with scenes of the government stubbornly failing to contain Godzilla.

[@eko9554]

Japan has punk bands there. He thinks they only make jpop or city pop there.

[@christiandecoster6132]

@@eko9554 Japan has so much great art across all mediums that pushes boundaries politically and culturally, and then some dick whose only ever watched anime ten years ago will go "ah yes, the apolitical country for non-wokeness."

[@masaharumorimoto4761]

I always hit 'em with the classic "Love & Pop" with Tadanobu Asano from Shogun being a super creep lol.

[@xibalbalon8668]

Seeing how Conservatives analyze media is always fascinating. It almost never makes sense and is always filled with contempt, passive aggressiveness, fear mongering, and the most superficial interpretations.

[@Superfan303]

And i thoughy i was the clown😂😂

[@Meyveda]

To be fair the same is with the woke cult people, that’s why I find these comments entertaining.

[@Wheelman2004]

@@Superfan303Care to explain why you disagree?

[@Superfan303]

@@Wheelman2004 the other guy gave a good reason and y'all can be as mad as you want but the public hates these movies the drinkers critisicm is a valid observation

[@Wheelman2004]

@@Meyveda Anyone who unironically uses the term "woke cult" has nothing of value to say.

[@CrashbeeUK]

Critical Drinker sounds insufferable

[@TTTristan1]

My god, his cadence makes me want to peel my toe nails

[@YEY0806]

Imagine listening to his voice in force isolation for hours as punishment

[@Psyclonus7]

So his whole schtick is a "drunk" act with misinformation? CinemaSins is the sober version of him.

[@JohnDoe-uf3lj]

God… That was brutal. 😂

[@pferreira1983]

Whatever you say Psycho.

[@JosephKLambert]

jose i pray for you. you’re gonna be swarmed by countless awful people.

[@klex3905]

I am a subscriber of the drinker and I do also have my problems with some of his stuff. We're not all awful! But the empty vessels do make the most noise! Jose has laid this out extremely thoroughly though and I like to believe it will only be the children who retaliate with nonsense.

[@PatrickWDunne]

Yeah, I've seen his fans do that before

[@klex3905]

@@PatrickWDunne it's easy to say ignore it I'm sure. Sadly it's the same audience that has re-enforced the cycle of his type of content. He used to be far more objective about the actual content.

[@MichaelBagshaw]

Here comes a 7 hour Efap breakdown

[@AlcoholicBoredom]

I’m assuming Jose’s expecting that since he’s obviously hoping that putting Drinker’s name in the title will get him a lot of clicks.

[@PROPAROXITONO]

imagine when he find out that one of Oda's desires was to portrait women as more than just romantic partners in manga culture, he wanted to lift the women roles in manga stories when he started one piece...

[@Zuuh-su7oy]

Wait until he gets to the part with anti-government drag queen revolutionairies whom are unequivocally the good guys lol

[@JsnVrhs46]

More like Critical Grifter.

[@andrewdevine3920]

I thought he was funny at first, but it's so obvious his idea of how things 'should be' is hackneyed schlock.

[@yusufkadar]

What stands out to me about these kind of film bros is that they don't even seem to actually like movies; it's just that you can engage in the culture without any outstanding knowledge or skill. As long as you know the talking points, you can make a personality (even a career) out of it without having anything that insightful to say.

[@youtubeviolatedme7123]

Ah, but Critical Drinker is a bit smarter, because he sprinkles in a few reviews for movies he likes, and never explicitly reveals his personal stances on issues so as to retain plausible deniability that he doesn't engage in the culture war grift.

[@pancakes8670]

It's the same mindset behind AI Art bros imo. They don't seem to actually like artists at all, it all feels like a spite movement. Like they don't actually care about what constitutes as "Art" or "Film Making", and instead their concern is stowing anger and frustration.

[@KickinRadTopHat]

It’s ironic how far CD types reach to justify their anti-woke complaints considering these guys are some of the first people to moan “it’s not that deep bro” any time they see any kind of art that asks the audience to consider more than the most blatant surface level interpretation.

[@Susanoo7108]

What's more annoying is that if these guys have a sizable audience, and if they really cared could make an effort to get them to watch stuff mainstream crowds wouldn't know about. But nope, they stick to mainstream stuff that's served to them and pray it's mostly bad to make them money.

[@fallenhero3130]

I think one of the issues with KZbin is that many creators combine being a legit film critic offering critique with also being entertainers. In addition to Critical Drinker, you also see Doug Walker, CinemaSins, and many others try to have it both ways as well. On the one hand, they'll offer a critique that may make valid points. But when their reviews are inaccurate/misleading/lacking, they then pivot with "Well, we're comedians first, not essayists. The point of our reviews are to be funny videos more than real critiques." And by trying to have it both ways, the critique ends up being shallow.

[@jtlego1]

They're the Shrodingers Douchbag of movie-based content creators.

[@JohnGardnerAlhadis]

Except the Drinker has never purported to be a comedian, nor has he ever backpedalled on an opinion he's shared. He's had his share of dumb takes, and he's even openly admitted when his initial impression of a film was incorrect or misleading.

[@Titleknown]

To be fair, I still think you can be funny and also smart. Look at Thew Adams or, for more dry humor, Kevin Perjurer!

[@l3mmycaution]

People who started as amateur filmmakers and crafted reviewer personalities (James Rolfe aka AVGN, Stoklasa aka Plinkett) seem to be the only ones who can make the distinction between the actor and the character... Probably because of their filmmaker background

[@eko9554]

They’re basically like dr oz and dr Phil. They aren’t actually part of their occupation but easily fooled the world that they were. This also goes to the education genre, I’ve seen many political essayists as educational but they don’t have a teaching license and make a million dollars while an average teacher doesn’t make that much money which is unfair. Those types of channels should be called opinion pieces.

[@NeedsContent]

I used to watch Drinker way back in the day. Unsubbed from him like 3 years ago, have not regretted it once.

[@dtanobo]

I keep trying to remove critical drinker from my search results but KZbin won't let me. For a guy called critical drinker, he sure as fuck sucks at criticising.

[@somanytakennames]

The lack of media literacy amongst conservatives is quite staggering. They’ll complain about woke messaging in today’s comedies whilst praising films like Blazing Saddles with a straight face.

[@noahvance6160]

My guess is that whenever they compare current films negatively to films from back then, there's always a 9/10 chance they haven't actually watched the movies they're name-dropping.

[@GeneralBolas]

They lack media literacy because the purpose of what they're saying is not to offer genuine insight and criticism. It's to push forward a political agenda. Within that context, an event in a film either can be made to support the agenda or it is ignored. This is all media analysis is to them: proof of a thing they've already convinced themselves is true.

[@NikoJr.]

Apparently conservatives don't like the term "media literacy" now either. I'd love if both sides could just stop moving the goalposts

[@KickinRadTopHat]

@NikoJr They don’t tend to have a positive view toward any kind of literacy, it’s nothing new.

[@LordPerrin]

My conservative inlaws and parents all loved Don't Look Up. They were not aware it was about climate change. Like, it's subtle as a hammer.

[@ScarecrowSkye]

why does TCD always end a sentence sounding like hes so angry that hes holding back tears? holy fuck it is so grating

[@gaiusjuliuspleaser]

Kinda answered your own question there.

[@refitdan]

Sounds like he's straining one out, on the toilet, to me.

[@quietone2674]

He's Scottish.

[@theviniso]

Rage baiting is profitable.

[@celtickawaii57]

He's secretly a sad drunk and seeing a strong female character makes him cry.

[@velcroshrimp]

I’m amazed at how fragile the critical drinker is

[@ignatius929]

Yup. For all his blustering of “the message” being oversensitive snowflake, but whenever he sees “woke” media he immediately whines and rant like like a spoilt brat, if the left are snowflakes then he and his putrid entourage are as sensitive as ice paper in the desert.

[@AgentH53]

Here is a video were someone is fragile about The Drinker: B4vlT3YUKq8

[@egon8947]

12:41 Vinland saga also has a trans character later on in the manga with a whole story arc related to that fact

[@Cyynapse]

the critical drinker feels like a parody of bad youtube review channels

[@godkekliveshere431]

i think that's the idea of his joke. still batter then Hannah Gadsby's long list of bad comedy

[@OhWellWhatTheHell1]

@@godkekliveshere431 if you don't fw hannah gadsby's standup, cool. But then it's THE SAME mfs jerking off dave chappelle's modern stuff, and that's been just as preachy and unfunny as gadsby

[@PatrickWDunne]

@@godkekliveshere431 why is Hannah Gadsby like the bogeyman for so many people? I see people bring her up all the time in completely unrelated comments sections

[@Suinlu91]

@@godkekliveshere431 yeah, he is a joke, you are right about that.

[@arubinojr5670]

@@PatrickWDunne You have to remember: Conservatives cannot engage with ideas. Everything they do is wrapped up in the emotions they feel when ritualistically repeating from a list of about 1200 party-approved names that themselves all stand in for complex ideas.

[@PatrickWDunne]

"Nooooo you can't criticize Critical Drinker!!!! You're just jealous because he's popular!!!!!!" - This comments section once Drinker fans find this video

[@SpoopySquid]

Either that or "He never actually said that/you're taking him out of context"

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

They found it before ya said this, they're freaking ravenous.

[@eko9554]

That’s what happened to turn nation in late 2021. That was the same year I found CD and I felt that there was something suspicious of him. However, I didn’t since I thought I would be seen as a hater and I didn’t know anything about anti SJW content.

[@XEPER888888888888888]

I forget where it was, if it was YT or FB or w/e other social media, i seen someone had commented a small issue with one of his critiques and one of his fanatics clapped back and said something to the effect of "yOuRe JUst JeAlOus bEcaUSe hE IS a mIlLiOnAiRe" and had a whole string of comments echoing that same sentiment. I was baffled because like who fucking cares that he is a millionaire? I myself didnt even know he was, i just thought he was just some schmoe on YT and him being millionaire had literally nothing to do with anything the OP said and it has nothing to do anything in general and its just a small comment on a fucking review on youtube, so calm your tits. And this is coming from someone who is subbed to him. Like, some of the shit i see is like crazy. Not just him though, other guys like him i had to unsub from because they just got to crazy with spamming the word woke (probably why im still subbed to CD because he never uses that word though the "THE MESSAGE" schtick got old mad quick). One guy, Nerdrotic, i had to unsub from not because of the spamming of "woke" (unsubbed before that trend thank god) but much early on when in some video, i forget which one, he was bitching about Nancy Pelosi of all people and im like well yeah i agree she does suck, though i hate her for much different reasons, i dont come here for criticisms of politics (I go to Secular Talk, Rational National, ROF etc for that).

[@PatrickWDunne]

@@eko9554 That was actually my introduction to TurfNation!

[@stephanieleblond3495]

i used to like him too but i realised he started to shit on women physical appearances far too much and honestly i cannot respect someone doing that

[@rodrigosoto4827]

The drinker takes it as a given that women will never beat a man in a fight even when the woman has trained more. Maybe he should look at what's happening with Audrey Jimenez.

[@kentknightofcaelin4537]

He'd probably say that's because woke judges rigged her matches, or because boys aren't brought up to be masculine anymore, or something.

[@AgentH53]

"The drinker takes it as a given that women will never beat a man in a fight" Comments like this prove that people fail to understand his criticisms.