The camaro just looks so much angrier than a dodge or mustang. And the sound🤘🏻
@antoniodominguez78625 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Ryder51729 жыл бұрын
The thing that he missed is, in the 70's you could buy a muscle car working a part time job out of high school, nowadays your hardest working blue collar worker would dream of owning a car like anything featured here.
@vincevdarend34159 жыл бұрын
Ryder5172 And the thing that you miss, is that even today cars in the us are 3 times cheaper than in europe. Over here we pay about 150k dollars for a zl1 or corvette. Even if cars are more expensive nowadays, you still have to realise that cars and gas are still probably the cheapest in the us
@Ryder51729 жыл бұрын
I realize prices in Europe are inflated compared to the US market, but I was referring to the fact that this video almost made it seem like the average american could afford to own a car like this. Which is very far from the truth nowadays, versus 35+ years ago, and it's all in regards to plain and simple inflation
@nezerac9 жыл бұрын
Ryder5172 Who the hell told you that bogus ass story? You couldn't buy a REAL "muscle car" back in those days unless you had some tenure at your job and recieved a few promotions. i don't get how so many people forget that back in those days minimum wage was like 3 bucks an hour in cali. Try buying a 6000 dollar car when you're making 200 bucks a week working full time.
@Ryder51729 жыл бұрын
listen, in 1979, working an assembly line job, right out of high school I ordered a camaro Z28 from the factory with money to spare, here in CT making $6 an hr at the time
@nezerac9 жыл бұрын
Ryder5172 Ya but that's probably being fathered in by someone who has it already.
@jaytonhawkins287210 жыл бұрын
That Camaro looks mean as hell
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
The 628 HP Dinan M6 is a stroker kit. I'm not sure you can run the stroker kit in conjunction with the supercharger, but if you can, it's probably closer to 800 HP. However, even a base BMW M6 is over $100,000. The stroker kit (installed) is another $30,000, and the supercharger package from Dinan is $20,000. All that together is more than double the price of the 700 HP CTS-V from Hennessey.
@3rdGenGuy10 жыл бұрын
700HP from a LSA 6.2L is super easy to make. LS9 cam, under drive pulley,Tune, and a bigger intake is all that's needed. You could get that done for less than $3000.
@THEAVERAGEGAMER1310 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats what I waa thinking but hey if youre rich and dont work on your own stuff I guess they like having the name on the car and warranties and crap some people like handing it over and saying make it fast but personally I'd rather do it myself or at leaat pick out all the parts
@3rdGenGuy10 жыл бұрын
THEAVERAGEGAMER13 Makes me wonder why they want like $10,000. When a $300 LS9 cam, $100 pulley and a $500 tune will get you 700hp.
@dern8815 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@blackice74084 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy because 💰
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
they are called dillon optics. the anti-glare lens is sort of their thing, as they also make lenses for sniper rifles.
@jerryaubuchon21408 жыл бұрын
Yep, I had a '72 Camaro Rally Sport & looking forward to a 2017 ZL1
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
I posted the times below, but here we go again. CTS-V: 11.08 @ 132 ZL1: 11.20 @ 129 Street tires, not much elevation, 90 degree ambient temp
@chriscatarcio29832 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of money. To go low 11s. Not impressed..
@nyelement00710 жыл бұрын
dude when the zl1 won that 1st round i was like oh SH1T!!!!!! the cts had more power but somehow the zl1 pulled it off. but when the 3 dudes jumped up in the cts v i was really laughing! cmon this is SO cool! anyway we look at it chevy/GM rocks! now if only they can make a stock zl1 with 700 to shut up the hellcat and gt500. go GM! they should make a deal with hennesy and make some 700 andd 850hp limited edition versions just for the hardcore enthusiasts like me and many other drag racers out in the crowd.
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
I have no idea, I drove it pretty hard so it wasn't very good, but I assume if you keep your foot out of it, you can get as good or better than stock.
@ChardDavis10 жыл бұрын
SMH at these comments. lol .. Both cars are pretty amazing. Either way ... bring in the specification sheet readers with negative comments in 3 .. 2... 1...
@GotHoesProductions9 жыл бұрын
Chard Davis , lmao ikr both are amazing cars, personally I wouldn't buy the wagon but its still sick.
@bud3859 жыл бұрын
both cars RIPPED! that ZL1 sounds SICK!!!! if Matt farah says its loud that means it sounds FULL ON SICK SWEEET!
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
yes, but on a dollar-for-dollar ratio, the ZL1 is a much better value for similar performance. The total cost of the ZL1 with HPE package is around $75,000 out the door. The VF engineering M3 was, as tested, nearly $120,000.
@Mcrisara10 жыл бұрын
If you watch this with surround sound headphones at a high volume, you will most definitely need to change your pants at around 3:26. Good god that car sounds amazing!
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
7:19 on the ring for the ZR-1, 7:41 for the ZL1, 7:59 for the CTS-V... and Europeans call us ignorant....
@kenshinhimura938710 жыл бұрын
A car can NEVER be too loud.
@robertpoudrette44835 жыл бұрын
An old Mazda 6 with a broken exhaust manifold is ALWAYS TOO LOUD!
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
I was replying to the point of the M3 being less tune-able than the ZL-1. Both cars have nearly identical base prices, but to get to the 700 HP level, you're going to spend a lot more money with the M3. That's a valid point when the difference is the price of a whole other car.
@camarodragsyou506711 жыл бұрын
This car is just badass
@Zen_Modeling10 жыл бұрын
I met John back in 1991 when he had a 2 bay garage on the wrong side of the tracks in Houston. Now look at you boy! Lol
@chrispappas375010 жыл бұрын
To hell with traction control, just put 3 men in your car.
@chrispappas37509 жыл бұрын
sweet dreams Someone trying to talk logic when responding to a joke, strike one bud.
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
we didn't measure 0-60, only quarter mile, where it did an 11.2 at 129 on street tires.
@justin2024atlas10 жыл бұрын
Screw HP. Torque matters.
@Belicose77710 жыл бұрын
Isn't torque a result of HP? I mean all torque is is 2 forces acting in opposite directions.
@Belicose77710 жыл бұрын
Gotcha
@Smullet9010 жыл бұрын
HP is just torque multiplied by your RPM, all divided by 5252. So... they both matter?
@ZoHBo10 жыл бұрын
LSA comes 556 with torque stock, so with these mods I'm sure its around 700.
@Blueline6627 жыл бұрын
i saw a guy with a hell cat that told me torque has nothing to do with how fast a vehicle can go. i looked at. the guy with a blank face and said "are you serious " he knodded his head said serious. i said well alright then buddy and walked off on him
@Tacomaholic11 жыл бұрын
Did you not watch the part talking about the magnetic suspension??
@1010901110 жыл бұрын
I wonder why GM never supercharged their 427 instead of switching to supercharging the 376
@MichaelH21010 жыл бұрын
one of the reason being is the cylinder walls on the 427 are way to thin to handle the boost of a blower, also high compression kills it to, 427 though harder to boost picks up stupid power with just boltons and a cam
@lop882810 жыл бұрын
MichaelH210 what are you saying. High compression is a must for that big of displacement.
@MichaelH21010 жыл бұрын
you usually want a lower compression for the ls7, otherwise you'll run into problems. most don't run a higher then 6-8lbs of boost without building the engine. then after that, well go all out. at least this is what I've been hearing and seeing in person
@lop882810 жыл бұрын
Your right I got confused but on a N/A setup higher compression fills up cylinders better. On boost you really don't want any higher than 9:1
@bunk-bn9eo5 жыл бұрын
I'm way late on this thread, but this was the most educational one. Thanks fellas.
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
yes, anniversary edition.
@xCkillaxC10 жыл бұрын
Wait, 20,000 for all the upgrades in this car shown here? This can work :)
@3rdGenGuy10 жыл бұрын
Many tuner companies have $2,000 650Hp packages. The camaro's LSA 6.2L is de-tuned because the corvette has to be the fastest. A cam, intake, pulley, ECU flash is all that's needed. cam swaps are super ez with LS v8s.
@chek1n10 жыл бұрын
Stephen Bagnell the base corvette is slower than the zl1
@brettlarson91210 жыл бұрын
jeffrey625625 What he's saying is the Corvette is Chevrolet's flagship car, so it's highest performance version has to be faster than any other models high performance package.
@3rdGenGuy10 жыл бұрын
jeffrey625625 The ZR1 and Z06 have to be faster than the Camaro because they are more expensive. GM has been doing this since the 1960's.
@pjdaballer2210 жыл бұрын
Stephen Bagnell Except for the Buick GNX :)
@athlete1518 жыл бұрын
LOL it's awesome I drive past their HQ every time i go to and from my school. They always have a couple of cars around the side, it makes me smile. :)
@kirikos659 жыл бұрын
707 horsepower . Guess that was Dodges inspiration.
@kenji3stacks2019 жыл бұрын
yes except it's out the factory that way. would love to see a modified post factory hellcat
@blackice74084 жыл бұрын
@@kenji3stacks201 what about the zl1 1le callaway with 750 hp? Thsts the most powerful camaro and everyone's forgot about it
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
except this car doesn't have the pulley, it makes stock boost.
@antz19coyote739 жыл бұрын
Nice non existent 1/4 mile numbers....
@clearliquid11 жыл бұрын
the sunset shots in this video were perfect. and the ending with the extra passengers was funny.
@kenshinhimura938710 жыл бұрын
Doesn't really matter if your car has 700 horsepower when it weighs over 2 tons.
@tenaciousj959 жыл бұрын
Do you understand power to weight?
@3rdGenGuy9 жыл бұрын
tell that to the hellcats
@3rdGenGuy9 жыл бұрын
sweet dreams the ZL1 is 4150lbs with the 6 speed manual. So ya 2 tons.
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
they are called Dillon Optics, you can go to The Smoking Tire website and click on the banner on the top right.
@Sargebsa10 жыл бұрын
Better than a SRT Hellcat
@laroccam11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Abdul, I'll check out SLP and Lingenfelter too. I plan to get the new 2014 Camaro Z/28 and was considering having it tuned right out of the factory. I reached out to Hennessey first after seeing a promo Jay Leno did with him. I also saw Howard Tanner (Redline) out there, but I didn't reach out to him yet. I'll keep doing research! Thanks again for your help.
@capcloud11 жыл бұрын
Yup, would love to help anytime. I own a 2ss, myself. I know the Z/28 is way more than the SS. I would recommend that you use it stock initially as it is a LOT of power to begin with. When you start to get used to it, upgrade it. My previous car was 250HP and going to 426HP was a really big deal. Controlling the car and stuff is not as easy as i thought it would be. Especially when having traction control off. Good luck with the Camaro. It's an amazing car.
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
Calling someone fat is literally the laziest way to insult someone, and reeks of lack of creativity. Just because cost is taken into consideration doesn't mean we won't do expensive cars. A tuned Lamborghini is expensive, but when you compare it to other cars with similar performance (I.E. Pagani Zonda, Bugatti Veyron, Ferrari Enzo, etc), it's a very good value for money. And as the host and PRODUCER of the show, yes, I make the show.
@isurid17 жыл бұрын
Had a 2013 CTSV coupe with Hennessey HP700. Bought it with 5k miles for cheap and sent it in for the package. Best thing I ever did. Sold it to a friend so its still in the fam. Had to get another car.
@MrKnifeFanatic10 жыл бұрын
The drag race with the car full of passengers at the end.... f-ing hilarious! :)
@zxtenn12 жыл бұрын
So what is the time difference in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times between the stock ZL- 1 Camaro and the Henn.? You are correct as muscle cars are in a great age now as most cars from the 60's were running in the 14's off the floor, some were true 13 second cars but they were the high performance versions or top of the line options with such steep gearing [such as 456] that made highway driving no fun or impossible at all with even worse gas mileage and increased engine wear
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
you missed the joke, Hennessey was referring to the extra weight over the back tires as "traction control" which helped him get a better launch and beat me.
@bobkin61112 жыл бұрын
what do you think they should charge?? its not a bad price, cause its WAY faster than stock.
@GuAp_JZ12 жыл бұрын
@VonenEsp I understand what you're saying but you have to remember, that M5 is bi-turbo. Turbos always have benefit of making big power from smaller displacement. If Hennessey's kit swapped out the blower for twin turbo... this car would be making more power
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
@Mauryd22 A raptor, corvette, Aston vanquish and Volkswagen lemons car
@iXetsuei12 жыл бұрын
"Supercharger Pulley Upgrade" is listed in the HPE700 package on Hennessey's website.
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
We've said this many times: traveling is expensive, and if we get on a plane, we have to make at least 4 episodes to make the flight financially work out. Hennessey tunes a wide variety of cars and gave us full access to his demo fleet. So when we went there, we took advantage of the situation and drove a few different cars. That's all.
@AnOrganCornucopia12 жыл бұрын
Is this the old V10 M6 or the new twin-turbo V8 one? If the latter, do Dinan really strip the turbos off and fit an old-school mechanical blower?
@272flashlites12 жыл бұрын
That CTS-V wagon was crazy! I'm "all in" with that one as soon as my lottery winnings come in, once I actually win the lottery.
@SPMNDK8911 жыл бұрын
Dude Matt, I just went to the Hennessey performance website and found out that they also boost Ferraris, particularly the 458. The numbers are already better than the Underground Racing twin-turbo version and about the same as the Heffner 458. Any chance John could hook you up with one of his 458s for another drive episode?
@musicboy91512 жыл бұрын
i don't have alot of knowledge on cars but i was just wondering would it be possible to tune up a chevy nova ss like this? or does there have to be something specific in order to do it? like only certain cars, since the car is not a modern car. originality is good but i am just curious.
@cameron53349 жыл бұрын
Amazing......old time muscle is great but the new tech with the new horsepower has brought the new era muscle cars to an unbelievable level. To all the new car specialty manufactures "I say thank you!"
@gtiguy112 жыл бұрын
Matt Farah and Chris Harris have the BEST job on the planet. Color me jealous. Great production value on the Drive videos and my only gripe is that they are on KZbin, which compels me to watch them during work.
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
it won't require much convincing. We're on it.
@jerry18285 жыл бұрын
So I am thinking of picking up a 2017 convertible Camaro SS with a Hennessy 700 plug on it and selling my 2016 SS....any thoughts?? Will this do anything bad long term to the engine?
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
yes, Hennessey re-tunes the Auto and it works well.
@trell70712 жыл бұрын
both car are super clean. thats the first station wagon i seen thats worth getting cant beat the style and power of a wagon and camaro is extra loud that i also like. i have a 08 trailblazer ss and it would be nice to see a hennessey tbss only cause i havent seen or heard of one yet. wish i had the cash to be the first one to do it in 2013 it was be really nice
@andrewjamesmithson11 жыл бұрын
In Australia we have Ford falcon FG which are the new models they have a 4ltr Turbo Inline 6cly twin overhead cam. The guy that I work with his ute or pick up as you guys call tham makes 420rwkw and does the 1/4 mile in 10.80 stock trim running ET drag radials. $38,000 not bad for half the engine size and price.
@highvelocity12311 жыл бұрын
Great video, the smile on John's face says it all...it's fun. And he's right, some of these foreign car companies don't leave alot of reliable horsepower on the table. If you stress these smaller motors too much it's a go then blow situation. I don't have time for that rebuild it every weekend crap...
@seangarnett46735 жыл бұрын
That wagons putting out a hell of a lot more than just 700 hp!
@Immortallize12 жыл бұрын
How the hell do you not love the sound of that cam? Jizztastic!
@richard_franks12 жыл бұрын
That's not always true.. take an e9x series, the 335 can get a dinan tune that blasts more boost in to the car and can add up to 100 hp and 120 torque to the wheels, and it's still covered by warranty. However, that is true for something like an m3, a tune and exhaust, if I remember right, will only net like 15 hp.
@Hoprgras10 жыл бұрын
Well Dang! The CTS-V with all seats filled, still whooped the Camaro. @ 10:47.
@marcojordan13684 жыл бұрын
Joel frank ain't no ctsv going to whopping no camaro zl1 stop this shit
@tubejorrit12 жыл бұрын
Matt, what kind of sunglasses do you have? I tryed to google but I cant find shades with matte silver glasses.
@askloglog12 жыл бұрын
seating for 5, with a usable trunk, you can see out of it, and it looks way better... that CTS-V is badass, i hope one day i'll have one for a daily driver
@alessandrozerbone12 жыл бұрын
Why won't they show any of the numbers? I'm really curious as to how much quicker the V wagon was
@TheyCallMeNewb12 жыл бұрын
Mr Hennessey seems like a really decent person and his passion makes him someone to admire. That camaros sound gives me shivers and looks sublime WOW!
@JasonBungard11 жыл бұрын
If a Ford Model T can still run in 2013, what's to stop a 2013 Camaro from running in 2033? Any electronic part can be replaced if needed. They do make spare sensors, you know?
@REZhomie11 жыл бұрын
WoW! This is probably the BEST sounding Camaro i've heard so far :O
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
it's a flash, not a stand-alone.
@XfarglesX12 жыл бұрын
lmfao the ending was the greatest, Matt: "across the creek? then they'll call someone else right?" cop: yep probably
@seitaneddy10 жыл бұрын
Also... What were the 1/4 mile times with these insane engines?!?!? O_O
@Spinal21119 жыл бұрын
The golden age of muscle cars to an extent was back in the late 60s, because everyone could afford one. The Z/28 here (ontario, canada) with just the option of AC/speaker system is $80,000 before tax, tack on another 13% plus all the bs fee's GM loves to bombard you with and you're easily over $90k. Far cry from the cost of a car back in the 60s era, even with the inflation difference and whatnot. Some nice machines today though, can't deny that.
@brandino1312 жыл бұрын
john said that the calibrations they do allow the car to have "great fuel economy"....whats the MPG on that camaro?
@cxbra11 жыл бұрын
707hp/717ft.lb torque for $75,000, thats a great deal for that car! That magnetic suspension is the way to go for 2014. Its great to see American cars with big brakes and tuned suspension, the GT500 has a long way to go to get to the ZL1's status!
@waleede1212 жыл бұрын
is this an upgraded automatic ?? cause the shifts are impressively quick 5:28
@StevenLindsay199510 жыл бұрын
Matt, this may sound stupid but can you guys do a show about chevy s10 and Sonomas like find a really tuned and tricked out one or an offroad specialty one, its kinda lame but I'm just a huge fan of those small trucks, thanks!
@EJ257IHI11 жыл бұрын
I agree, even the car in stock form is awesome. Great car and great deal. I am looking forward to owning one someday.
@tacticalbugout81338 жыл бұрын
What's the exhaust system on it? Is it Hennessy or just straight piped lol
@TheSmokingTire12 жыл бұрын
They already do.
@dobbins255011 жыл бұрын
The suspension on the Z/28 is even more sophisticated than the one on the ZL-1. I'm a Mopar guy and there is no denying that GM has the most sophisticated suspension systems in the world. Just listen to the guy talk about the new suspension on the Z/28 - F1 technology that not even the Porsche GT3 has!
@TheCompyshop11 жыл бұрын
I prefer manual too. But I believe it's a double clutch transmission. "Automated manual". AWD is better than Rear wheel drive though. Especially when the AWD is bias to the rear wheels. Which it is in the RS6. So it feels like a Rear wheel, but you have the grip of All wheel.
@BenNoel11712 жыл бұрын
The exhaust sound is amazing
@yogeana12 жыл бұрын
Finally someone shows some class. The best colour for the Sub.
@lazybugs112 жыл бұрын
@drive matt just straight up you have the most fun job I have ever seen
@Analog88712 жыл бұрын
It's cheaper to just tweak the supercharger setup that's already on it. If you wanted to go anymore power than that I'd assume you'd go twin turbo.
@PoPeYe52012 жыл бұрын
if the exhaust is loud would it help if you buy the exhaust silencers or not ?
@CAJFB12 жыл бұрын
Good episode I especially like the ending the Wagon beat the ZL1 with the drive crew inside!!LOL!!!Meaning everyone had fun!!
@pradaj92912 жыл бұрын
I believe the new Shelby is an Aluminum block. Most people use boat anchors for boat anchors actually.
@patrickpelletier631511 жыл бұрын
I love that Hennessey changes the engine parts, instead of just slapping on a massive supercharger and saying oh this is fast, but this is equaly fast and will last
@EatmyDust131111 жыл бұрын
You can buy one from Hennessey (the 700hp one) for $120,000. They have a shop in Texas and one in California. Or, if the 750hp Lingenfelter Camaro sounds better (plus, a good reputable shop- lookup "hennescrewed"), that is only a $35k, or 38k for 775 hp upgrade. So about half the price for more power from a better company with 3x the warranty.
@charged41811 жыл бұрын
@swingerss1 actually the 13 gt500 is all svt, the only input Carroll Shelby had was whether it was worthy or not to be a Shelby. Not one person from Shelby America lays a finger on the new gt500 unless its a supersnake
@gtmaster303111 жыл бұрын
How did the CTS-V win at the end with all those extra people in it?
@walperstyle12 жыл бұрын
ecu reflash or stand alone like Vipec, Motec, AEM series 2?
@Rad_MTB_Rage12 жыл бұрын
Well how fast did they go in the quarter mile ?
@steinarne7912 жыл бұрын
That wagon is just SOOOO SICK!
@Jusrin2112 жыл бұрын
oh man i love the sound that wagon makes!
@GregQuillen11 жыл бұрын
I was actually looking at used vipers yesterday. Was thinking trading my car in & selling my other car for a new viper
@CarsnStuff12 жыл бұрын
I thought the ZL1 was the upgrade for the ZR1.. according to this video its the opposite ?
@carmencolumbusohio11 жыл бұрын
I couldnt agree more about GM LS-based engines. My father has a LT1 Impala with over 183K miles that he uses as an everyday work car and its extremely reliable. The only thing that he had to replace on it was a fuel pump. Other than that he drives it constantly.
@717xcrunner12 жыл бұрын
What song is always playing at the end of these tuned videos? I really like it.
@ProCharggedGTO12 жыл бұрын
The ZL1 has close to 470whp/580hp at the crank stock. The HPE700 has close to 680whp. 210whp plus a 3 year/ 36,000 mile warranty for close to 75,000 is a bargain considering its competition The Shelby Super Snake sells for about 90,000 plus tax at Galpin Ford in the San Fernando Valley and it has 660hp at the crank. The 850bhp/780whp version sells for well over 110,000 plus tax at the stealerships.