How much power is enough? Driving the full Corvette lineup

[@drive]

CORRECTIONS: 1) The C8 Stingray in the video has the z51 package which comes with an upgraded exhaust adding an extra 5hp for a total of 495 2) The C8 E-ray makes 655hp 3) The C8 E-Ray is available with Michelin Pilot sport 4Ss but not the Cup2 Rs

[@RassoolRacing]

Hey everyone! Joey here. Thanks for watching! This opportunity kinda fell into out laps as I was traveling through Kentucky and we really wanted to make something for you. This is my first time doing any kind of "car review" type content, so theres definitely some room for improvement and i appreciate you all being on board. Also big thanks to NCM motorsports park for offering up their cars, track, and time to us.

[@stillsearching1284]

It was a good review. I recommend getting rid of the background music, especially when you are driving.

[@timmotel5804]

Good Day Joey. Excellent Presentation. Clear and Honest discussion. I bought my 2004 Z06 Commemorative new, and it is a great car. 131,000 miles on the LS6 engine and it still runs like new. The NEW Vettes are almost beyond belief. I'm 72 years old and 426 HEMIs and LS6 454 Chevy's were once the pinnacle. I did mostly 440 Magnums myself. Today is almost the Twilight Zone with these new Vettes. Thank You. Very interesting and educational.

[@charliecleanup]

Interesting review thank you for doing it

[@urbanstrencan]

I think that a regular Stingray is more than enough for everyday Joe :)

[@cs.8821]

More fun wity z06 tho

[@davidhayes7928]

Great commentary on the difference in the cars. I have seen many C8 videos, many, and this one talks about the difference in experience as well as any. Especially coming from an honest place of only tracking a 100hp Yaris.

[@zipperbluez]

I really enjoyed this! So many full-time reviewers have thier opinions skewed by driving hyper car after hypercar that they simply can't provide a vailid opinion on cars remotely normal folks could buy. Hearing the opinion of someone who's more in touch with reality on cars that some of us could remotely dream of driving or owning one day is valuable and interesting.

[@intelligentinvesting1633]

Great review. This is exactly what I hear from many at car shows and on the track when comparing Stingray vs. Eray vs. Z06. Note: Stingray Z51 is not equal to the non-Z51. Even yesterday, when we parked at Velocity Invitational, I have a C8 Z51, a Z06 pulls up next to us. When we talk, the owner of the Z06 says he misses his Stingray because it's just an overall, more comfortable, better package. He finds the Z06 too loud (no AFM (V8->v4), the Cup 2R tires are too sticky, and the suspension is stiff compared to the Stingray. The 4S tires are not the right tire for the car either. Indeed, as it's designed for, and as I suspect, the Z06 is much more and a much better track car, but not a great daily driver compared to the Stingray and Eray. Of course, the Z06 is fantastic, don't get me wrong, and get what your heart desires, but imho buy the car that suits your needs. I track my Z51 3-4x per year, and boy, it is plenty (of HP and speed) to have (scary) fun with.

[@MLProductions.1]

Z06 is a bad daily. But that E-Ray the best in the line up as a daily. I can only afford a Stingray though as of now. So I'll stick to it

[@intelligentinvesting1633]

@@MLProductions.1 You don't have to feel bad about "only" getting a Stingray (Z51?). It is still a badass car that delivers often more (!) than enough for 99% of all of us mortals... I have the Z51; IMHO, it is close to the best of both worlds. A great daily driver while still a head-turner on the track. Does it really matter the Z06 does a 1:10 and the Z51 a 1:15 on the track? Unless your name is Max Verstappen it does not... Meanwhile, my wife really appreciates the Mag Ride and AFM. The former is only available on the ZX06 with the Z07 package for another +$10K... Not to mention, if one were to choose the carbon wheels and CUP 2R tires... Both are useless for daily driving...

[@MLProductions.1]

@@intelligentinvesting1633 no z51 no need. I don't track and hate the spoiler. Just Mag Ride Red Calipers etc. I put a Z06 spoiler myself (the only good looking one imo, and the low profile). I daily it

[@jroe25yt8]

Z06 is a much more special car and experience than the other two.

[@forestchild3261]

I love the bravery and experimental nature of this, very fresh take, good job! I feel like you're quickly finding your automotive niche again, and that's good for everyone.

[@dogle9258]

Loved the comparison. From a AWD track car owner, it’s not really the answer video games let us believe. However, red light to red light…. Lotta fun. Being able to put down 1.6 60ft times and still stop before the next interaction can be a blast in the city.

[@oglordblight]

I’m so thankful for you doing this. I’ve been mulling over trading in my C8 but now I think I’ll stick with it. Thanks.

[@mastercruss]

This video mad me feel like the drive was actually back. What a great video guys.

[@drive]

thanks for watching!

[@Gearbhall]

You should revisit this with the C8 ZR1 when it's available. I also think a similar test for street driving should be done.

[@evanescent0311]

Not about power … it’s about the noise. Z06 for me all day.

[@faded2218]

I have the eray and knew I'd never be going to the track with it. AWD and zooming stoplight to stoplight is fine by me for now. Gotta see these Zora specs for that to change

[@norwegianblue2017]

Also going to be the best of the three in bad weather.

[@MLProductions.1]

E-Ray as a daily all day. Love my stingray but it's all I can afford comfortably as of now. I daily it. If I was to go Eray or Z06 I'd pick Eray. Z06 is probably the better weekend/ track car

[@EJ-V8Bikes]

Great review, great host, great video idea! I really much prefer having a reviewer host like Joey because I think the common person can best relate with someone like Joey who doesn't have extended seat time in a a wide variety of super expensive cars which are out of reach for the majority of viewers.

[@carguy7627]

I like the premise of this comparison. One thing I think is good to note is that different people want different things out of their cars. It's nice that there are multiple versions so people can get the one that fits their wants versus a one-size fits all approach.

[@joshgessinger4509]

The stingray is all or more than most people will ever need. The ZO6 is for the guy that wants to race the track maybe some drag racing. The Eray is a good all around car great traction to go straight fast. Eray probably rides better im sure my opinion if u want a little more than the stingray Eray better than the Z06. If u have the money buy whatever u want i guess. But the stingray is definitely a lot of car for the money and somewhat affordable. Good video enjoyed watching.

[@shatz72]

Being an eray owner myself and no offensive but the eray is no slouch on the track…but I feel you had no idea how to harness the true power and handling. On the street the eray is wild, especially from street light to street light. The Swiss Army knife for sure!!!!

[@michaelfrock2473]

I feel like it would also probably be great for that southern weather when it just dumps a ton of rain.

[@w.c.3714]

I honestly wish they would have done all three cars on the same tires since they are all available with the PS4s. It would have been a truer comparison. I hate it when they back to back cars and then hamper one of them with all seasons.

[@cs.8821]

So is my c8 z06 from light to light is so nimble

[@karlk9316]

My guess is that the E-Ray comes into its own in rainy or snowy weather. Just like this reviewer said, the electrical front wheel drive pulls you out of the turn and reduces the tendency to oversteer with all that power and very wide rear tires.

[@kdmscarlett2012]

​@cs.8821 lol stfu 😂 nobody asked about your c8, go try to be cool guy somewhere else, so desperate for attention

[@dcheetham8603]

The content you guys are pumping out is great! keep it up

[@DavidJCarrell]

I totally agree with your ranking of Z06, Stingray and E-Ray. I’ve got a Stingray Z51 HTC and I’d never sell it for an E-Ray. But I also think the new ZR-1 with the twin turbos on the flat plane crank engine wont sound as good as the Z06 due to the back pressure. Z06 all the way, baby. Might try to secure one in the next couple of years

[@teamvigod]

Very much enjoyed your video. I am going to comment on the all-season tires on the non-Z06 cars and recognize you actually did somewhat note this at the end of the video as it is extremely important on track. Running an all-seasons (aka no-season) vs a PS Cup/Sport tire is night and day on track. I'd guarantee the E-Ray would become quite a different animal and give you much more confidence with a proper set of track tires such as the ones you noted are an available option. I'd almost disregard any track times or feedback from a sports car or exotic if it is running anything but a track spec tire like the Pilot Sports. The Z06 was most confidence inspiring because of those tires. Your only connection to the road is only as good as the little contact patch each tire provides.

[@RassoolRacing]

That's a great point although I did forget to highlight that the Z06 is 500 lb lighter than the E-ray. Maybe the all-wheel-drive system makes up for that, but I think the programming of the electronic limited slip diff would also come into play. Guess I'll just need to do more testing! 😊

[@robertfoster3384]

Unnecessary overthinking this! It’s a sports car. Corvette! Emotional. Fun. Attainable. American! Do you want pure sports, or GT with AWD, or track capable supercar? Sports cars choose their drivers. Different Corvettes for different customers. The Z06 is for me.

[@mohammeds9915]

The answer to that is pretty easy: for the average car enthusiast, any power that gives you the acceleration rush on a daily without getting old. From all the cars I have, that usually falls between 550hp and 650hp. Anything beyond that is of course great, but unnecessary.

[@Hellcat-pg5pq]

I drove a C8 Stingray and it felt so composed that it just wasn't the right recipe for me. I have a C8 ZO6 and it checks all the boxes. I recently attended Ron Fellows High Performance Driving School and it was more fun than I could have imagined. The ZO6 is a track weapon. I wish I could afford the new ZR1.

[@Highlander8282]

The first production mid-engine Corvette ever made - was the 1963 model! They have been front-mid-engined ever since. There have been a few rear-mid-engine concept cars over the years, but the C8 is the first production rear-mid-engine Corvette. Thank you for the great video! It was very interesting and good to see a comparison of these three models, and from somebody not already experienced with them - great idea.

[@kentowakai1234]

Interesting idea for an episode. Well done.

[@keithjeske1670]

That was a good video I like your perspective. Very few of us have the driving skills of the professional drivers and editors.

[@garymcgowan4057]

Great video and comparison. I think you mailed it there, the C8 stingray is for the masses while the Z06 is the track weapon or for those very experienced. E-ray is for those who have the money and want to drag race or live in the snow hah. But really I've done launches in a C8 stingray, and it was already crazy fast with the right tires and surface.

[@AustinBruner]

This was a really interesting idea for a video! And the format that it was presented in was excellent. Thank you for sharing your insights 🎉

[@brettmilkovich2233]

Great video! I’ve always wondered about a back to back comparison between the current C8’s from a non supercar journalist. Nicely done!

[@MrRJC1991]

The Stingray is enough.

[@sergh8605]

I like this video! Hope this format continue. Thank you

[@terryrutherford2114]

I own a C7 Z06 and probably will for a while. After your video, if I had the means, I would opt for the C8 Z06. Thanks for the video!

[@ELXABER]

I can certainly tell the difference in the sound of that Z06 flat-plane crank. It could be the one with 470 and I'd still choose it. I'd bet if they put that Z06 motor, even detuned, and AWD like the E-Ray, it would sell better than the Stingray, E-Ray, Z06, and ZR1. AWD is just really nice for inclement weather. It's like they slightly missed the mark for the perfect everyday driver's car with the engine choice in the E-Ray.

[@The_R-n-I_Guy]

It's more fun to drive a slow car fast. Also I like the feel of older cars. They let you feel the speed. Newer cars glide along effortlessly at higher speeds and feel numb. Even driving down the highway in a modern car feels like a crawl. But an older car lets you know when you're going fast. Especially the old clunkers that I've driven 😊. Going 80 feels like 180.

[@artbaer3122]

Really enjoyed your reviews of the three Vettes. These models certainly prove, to me anyway, that more is not always better, even if it is horsepower. The Stingray is the best bang for the buck unless you are a real hard core track demon.

[@cafn8ed74]

Joey, love your racing content. It's cool to see you out there doing other things. The question on my mind is whether driving a fast car fast is more fun than driving a slow car fast.

[@LexxLuther100]

We wanted to see a drag race between the 3. But great work.

[@stephenarnold9377]

I enjoyed this video. Thanks for putting it out there! Keep up the good work!

[@ClaudioBattaglin]

Great video. Just bought a Z06 Z07 a few months ago. Looking at finally taking it to the track on Friday. Let’s see how it goes.

[@princeair]

Although I’m not in the market for one of these cars. Not in my price bracket at the moment. I am a car enthusiast and really enjoyed this video. Cheers

[@purplepurplesaurasne]

Good production on this, nice to see / making video again.

[@RosannaPorteous]

tunedbyai AI fixes this (AI assisted Car Design/ Tuning). Driving full Corvette lineup power

[@vectorcruzusa]

How does it do this

[@davidg3944]

Hope you get traction on the channel rebuild. Content and clarity to start, charisma as you grow.

[@djfrankib45]

The Z06 & E Ray cost too much. I'll keep my regular Stingray. Looks 90% the same. And the numbers are close enough.

[@gracestingray]

Meanwhile C8 ZR1 laughing at corners with at least 2x HP and 2x Torque 😂😂

[@justinurquhart5935]

I'm curious how an E-Ray with the Z51 package would fare. Seems like that would be the appropriate mid-point between the three cars.

[@IssaqAl-Ahmed]

Great video! I can vouch for the general theme here, not with Corvettes but other cars. Adding more power doesn't necessarily make a car better unless it's correctly complemented with beefed-up components that communicate well. I've driven a few otherwise stock cars with boosted engines, and I can safely say I'd almost never go the route of adding power first. It mostly ruins the car unless you beef everything else up. It's all fun and games until the suspension can't act fast enough for the weight transfer brought on by quicker changes in speed. A base Stingray to a Z06 looks to be that from the factory. One caveat: "better parts" doesn't always equate to a better ride or experience. Chevy went out of their way to make the C8 approachable with all the tiers they currently have. This didn't seem to be the case with previous Corvette generations, which aimed to simply be better track cars vs. faster, livable cars. One special note I'd add about the E-Ray: in my experience, making an otherwise 2WD car into a 4WD car often doesn't feel right. A great example is the Focus RS vs. the ST. The RS was for sure a more capable car, but it never felt right to me. It felt like the chassis was never comfortable with where the power was coming from. The ST was a riot at all speeds. It felt "right". Could be talking some BS, but that's how it felt to me. Hope to see more stuff like this!

[@drdroop2163]

I feel like they should have matched tires for a fair comparison. Try that Z06 on all seasons and see how it goes. Not well.

[@The_R-n-I_Guy]

I don't need a track ready car with a wing and carbon brakes. I just want a base model C8 with the magnetic suspension and a limited slip diff. Anything else is unnecessary for the area and style I drive. That being said. The E-Ray would probably be better for the part of the country I live in. I could even drive it in the winter 😂. As long as the snow wasn't too deep anyway

[@dutchyjhome]

I do think it really matters where you live and what kind of weather conditions you will have to cope with, especially in winter-time, what your choice of Corvette would be. Yes we can all be very fossil about this, but in the end the Corvette E-Ray provides you with All Wheel Drive and in many weather conditions that is the far superior car. Obviously in summer-time, or living in a warm climate state, you have the luxury of getting the Z06, but then again, although you may have the money to get one does not mean you have the driver skills it takes to not to crash it. Many junkyards are filled with wrecked overpowered cars, which turns out to be more than a handful for any average driver. Large amount of money do not automatically come with driver skills. So it is safe to say that the convincing majority of people who are about to get themselves a fast Corvette, that they in general are way better off with the Corvette E-Ray. And when you live in Florida and you have decided to go skiing in Aspen at Christmas-time, you will find out that a Corvette Z06 can be useless up in the mountains on snowy roads. Spinning rear wheels; no traction at all, and so all those horses and no grip to gallop. It may surprise you how much All Wheel Drive car will do for you in situations a 2 wheel drive car 100% guaranteed will let you down due to no grip, even at the slowest speeds thinkable. This does also go for other extreme weather situations, like heavy rainfalls and the risk to aquaplaning, heavy winds; storms in general, because it isn't always 80 degrees Fahrenheit and nice sunny weather... After all, a car must be able to do it was purchased for: to get you from A to B under all circumstances throughout the entire year no matter your destination, it must be reliable, and safe to ride in. Just like most of us would not want to get strapped to a rocket just before launch, you also may prefer to drive a car you actually can handle.

[@xtnuser5338]

How exactly do you imagine AWD helps with hydroplaning?

[@dutchyjhome]

@@xtnuser5338 Yeah, ok... well go see rally video's and especially those with Porsche 911 (rear engined...but All Wheel Drive) and see them go like hell o places where average Joe/Joan will not even try to go slow...under ALL Cirumstances (Icey Snow, Dust, Forrest, through rivers; you name it ! Then you will understand.

[@xtnuser5338]

@@dutchyjhome I already understand the benefits of AWD quite thoroughly. I have been a performance driving instructor for almost twenty years. Hydroplaning resistance is not one of those benefits. Not even a little bit. I asked you only about hydroplaning. I didn't question any other part of your post. You responded in a way suggesting that I just don't understand. But you didn't actually even attempt to answer my question. You probably did that in some attempt to distract from the fact that you are wrong about hydroplaning.

[@Seventh7Art]

How much power is enough? 3 billion horsepower. And the new ZR1 makes only 1064 HP.

[@AshtonCoolman]

I don't think any of these cars are meant for average consumers. However, some people have more money than sense though.

[@stevencampos4456]

Horsepower & torque is never enough the first time I did a blast from 0 to180 mph in my 2018 ZL1 The first words out of my mouth when I let off the gas was now I know why people modify even a 650 HP 650 tq car 0-60 in 3.5 seconds is fun but my next sports car is gonna be a 2028 Corvette ERAY 655hp AWD MONSTER I haven’t put my sports cars on a dragstrip or the track in 15 years and don’t ever plan to do the ERAY is definitely gonna be my next ride!

[@nboccanfuso]

0-180, but haven't been on a track in 15 years? Doubt... it's okay, you don't have embellish.

[@cross6588]

0-180 and not on a track. Hopefully you are lying and not that irresponsible.

[@stevencampos4456]

ZL1 tops out at 198 and yes, I was on the interstate on a Saturday morning in the summer 6 :30AM no traffic as far as the eye can see no offramps been driving that stretch road for 25 years the only reason why I tapped out at 180mph was because I saw a couple of cars a mile ahead of me the speed limit in NM is 75 I passed them going 80 I would never endanger someone else’s life, except for my own!

[@cross6588]

@@stevencampos4456 cool story 🤡 next time use a track but you are probably lying.

[@ezpz4659]

Great video. I have the c8 z07. Best car ever

[@JerryCecco]

Did you run a full session in eray with 100% battery boost? I heard battery power falls off in 1 lap....not many reviewers talk about it

[@RassoolRacing]

Hey Jerry. I honestly only had a few laps with each car so I didn't even think to check. We had to get the whole shoot crammed into about an hour. Next time though!

[@jemery3]

There is no thing as too much power just not enough traction

[@andrewsbbq]

For 99% of buyer that 490 and stock suspension is more than enough for a daily driver and the though of “I ~could/might~ track it” but never actually track it

[@jroe25yt8]

The majority of Corvette’s aren’t daily drivers though. I certainly wouldn’t want it as my only car, especially for those up North.

[@andrewsbbq]

@@jroe25yt8 I think you missed my point

[@jroe25yt8]

@@andrewsbbq 99% of buyers don’t need a Corvette at all, especially for just the street. Thing is, these things aren’t about needs, they are about wants, the experience, and how they make you feel. That’s why the Z06 is clearly the most special car among these three. Completely different experience from the other two, regardless of performance numbers.

[@andrewsbbq]

@@jroe25yt8 woosh

[@jroe25yt8]

@@andrewsbbq I get your point, you apparently aren’t comprehending mine. I don’t think you understand the Corvette market. Someone could easily say that 99% of buyers don’t need a Corvette at all, even a base model Stingray, and certainly not as a daily driver. The vast majority of Corvette owners have a different, daily driver. These are toys, vehicles for enjoyment and the experience. Buy whatever car provides the experience that talks to you the most. Trying to rationalize like you are shows that you don’t get it. Whoosh.

[@mikelyon5595]

The E-ray is more my type! I will never track anything again!

[@twoweeledsoto6072]

You will undoubtedly be able to tell the difference, whether or not you could put it to use is an entirely different question. I think the 670 horsepower might be close to the perfect balance. The ZR1 might have too much power for two wheels. Just my opinion

[@valensinclair6750]

Just like motorcycles, a lot of performance car horsepower is just for bragging rights on the street. My modded sportbike makes over 200hp at the wheel. Can't really use it anywhere on the road except out in the middle of nowhere. Even on a track 200+ hp for most riders isn't being used.

[@turdferguson2839]

I like corvette and all the history it has but they have really gotten confusing and watered down with too many models and packages. E Ray, stingray, z06, Z07, z51 and Zr1 have just become random numbers and words that most people don't understand or care about.

[@michaeldodd9302]

It’s no different than Porsche with the 911: 1. 911 Carrera 2. 911 Carrera S 3. 911 Targa 4. 911 Turbo 5. 911 GTS 6. 911 GT3 7. 911 GT3 RS 8. 911 GT2 RS I think I may have even missed a few options and trims, but the point I’m making is that when car manufacturers find a winning formula, they tend to make several variations of that formula.

[@user-ie1hg5ov1m]

The Eray seems to be the best of both worlds especially with AWD so those in cold weather climates can potentially use it in the snow

[@sp1pilot]

The car can barely clear a speedbump and you think it's practical in snow?! Goodluck.

[@user-ie1hg5ov1m]

@sp1pilot judging from your past comments seems you arent a fan

[@w.c.3714]

​@@sp1pilotit's not necessarily about the depth where I live it's just all about the cold and ice so the ground clearance isn't really an issue. I can't easily clear a speed bump in my car either without planning but it's not an issue.

[@cs.8821]

No

[@xtnuser5338]

Those in cold weather can potentially use a 2WD car in the snow also. Sure, AWD will be a bit better, but don't make a blanket implication that 2WD just can't be used period. That's ridiculous.

[@rockemsockemrusbot684]

They are all C8s the base one is called stingray

[@peterperez2840]

Great show. Different, I like it.

[@RobertBrown-lf2wn]

Eric it looks like a cat 3 hurricane is going down hill quickly it’s going to be catastrophic flooding brad

[@brellnob]

Almost the full lineup.

[@Ganbala]

From those 3 I took...E- Ray

[@theguy1224]

ERAY to me is weird. As if GM made that car with a question mark. No one knows what it is really. People just get it because it's AWD for "winter" duties. When in actuality it would make a terrible winter car because of those insanely wide tires. Even if you can get all seasons or winters close to those sizes, you would want a narrow tire for snow to slice through it, not plow through it with those wide ass tires. So essentially the stingray would be a better winter car even if it's RWD. It's a milestone for GM to create the ERAY but honestly when it comes to C8's, which is a push towards that exotic/supercar level, it starts with the z06 and ends with the ZR1 or ends with the ZORA, if that car is a reality.

[@spdcrzy]

The E-Ray is a Michigan car. What I mean by that is that it is a Corvette meant for incredibly harsh roads and snow and slush and potholes but also high speeds and a plush ride, AND for zero to 100 runs - with beautiful design. Adding the Z06 body and suspension onto the AWD platform makes for a really well-tuned GT car.

[@theguy1224]

@@spdcrzy I get that but the stingray is already massive. The widebody cars just add to it and again those insanely wide tires aren't ideal for wintry conditions. It was definitely a good approach of making the first hybrid corvette but it is literally a stingray with an electric front motor. Hopefully in the next gen ERAY it'll be better. However still not an ideal "winter" corvette.

[@spdcrzy]

@@theguy1224 the previous C7 Z06 and ZR1 had winter tires too. Size means a lot less than the compound for winter tires. Wide winter tires aren't as big of a problem as you think, especially in a mid-engined car.

[@theguy1224]

@@spdcrzy I know. I had winter tires on my C7Z because of the compound for the COLD weather, not necessarily for snow. LIke i said the wide tires are not ideal for snow because wide tires "plow" through snow when you want narrow tires to "slice" through them. Mid engine doesn't mean much in the snow when your tires are like steam rollers.

[@JerryCecco]

The C8Z06 has & will have the LOWEST TQ number of all the C8 corvettes (current and future)

[@ALMX5DP]

Is that a good thing, bad thing or?

[@jroe25yt8]

Look up torque to the wheels, thats what actually matters. C8 Z06 basically matches the C7 Z06 torque to the wheels, even though the C7 Z06’s LT4 produces significantly more torque.

[@JerryCecco]

@@jroe25yt8 Sorry I dont understand reply >>>> My 2017 C7Z rwtq is 573, vs C8Z06 rwtq is 416, 157 rwtq difference

[@ALMX5DP]

@@jroe25yt8 I just did a quick search and am not seeing that. I saw C7’s making mid to high 500lb-ft on dynos where the C8’s I saw were making at most mid 400lb-ft. What sources did you use? Are you maybe trying to estimate the area under the curve, taking into consideration the extra rpm the C8 is able to hit?

[@jroe25yt8]

@@ALMX5DP just needs to be driven higher in the rev range than a C7 Z06. Very different experience with the high revving, NA FPC.

[@protectandswerve]

Key words, "Average Consumer"!!

[@dameonsmith7763]

Dude I was literally just wondering this same situation

[@valkyrievillage3673]

99% of owners never use the hp anyway

[@philjackett-simpson5149]

That's true, I had two R35 GT-R' s, never went full throttle. I found the mk supra with around 400hp was enough.

[@kinggor555hk]

That's why z06 is better with its exotic sounds.

[@jareknowak8712]

Good Job! Thank You! 👍

[@joem7755]

lol.. yeah Im sure AS tires are not going to feel the same as Cup2s on the track. Thank goodness reviewers don't hold it against the car itself... 😔

[@IndependenceCityMotoring]

Correction: previous generations of Corvette were already technically "mid-engine" for 50/50 weight distribution. Front-mid-engine versus the current rear-mid0engine.

[@youcdtube]

I have a 70th Anniversary edition pearl white c8 and on the fence/list for an E Ray new or could buy a used ZO6 or should I keep the c8 I’m very very happy with it is the extra power really worth it does anyone really know? Hopefully this vid sheds some light on

[@briantaylor9285]

ZR1 and Zora: 😏😁

[@rondail5675]

Good review.

[@MikeBaloga]

Loved the video, nice work guys! Interesting perception here though at the beginning...."mildly wealthy" consumers spend $200K+ on a vehicle???....huh, that's crazy. IMO, if you're spending a quarter million on a car, you're likely in the top 2%, probably not what i would say is "mildly" wealthy. Americans don't save money either, so the argument can be made those folks are just spending more than a mortgage to afford these types of vehicles but will be working their entire life. There is no doubt, the value prop on the C8 platform is pretty unbeatable (especially when buying used) but GM keeps pushing them up the foodchain where MSRP's continue to increase and the dealers ruin releases like the Z06 and the upcoming ZR1 with slapping ridiculous market adjustments on them. If i could justify the cost of any of these, i'd pick the Z06 hands down.

[@xtnuser5338]

Just speaking statistically...yes, the ability to buy a $200k car is "mildly" wealthy. I'm worth about three million so far. That's very wealthy in the eyes of most, until you are reminded that the VERY wealthy have billions. Yeah, my net worth makes me wealthy, but it pales in comparison to the very wealthy, so I think mildly is a suitable word.

[@skip741x3]

I already left a comment similiar to urs... 200k is just unobtanium to the average struggling person out there. these cars would cost as much as a mortgage...Im driving a 30yr old car and would be thrilled with a 20 to 30k used car... I get a kick outta these vids but none of them have any bearing on reality as far as actually owing one...

[@MikeBaloga]

@@xtnuser5338we’re at about the same here but nobody knows what tax rates or cost of healthcare will be in 10 years so I’m not about to spend $200k+ on a car. I get paying that kind of money if you’re going to start a collection of rare blue chip collector vehicles but that’s not what we are talking about here. The vast majority of Americans will never retire because of a combination of their saving and spending habits and the government may go bankrupt trying to support them when they can no longer work.

[@xtnuser5338]

@@MikeBaloga I agree with everything you said. I think PART of the reason people make stupid financial decisions is BECAUSE our government tries to take care of them. I believe that if the safety net of "other people's money" weren't so available, a higher percentage of people would put more thought into saving their own money. I appreciate that you're being careful--due to unknown future factors--and that you wouldn't spend so much on a car. In my opinion that's why I think the phrase MILDLY rich is appropriate. We're certainly seen as rich by the relatively poorer folk, but if we're smart we're still worrying about unknown future expenses. I'm putting two boys through college right now, and the expense is certainly not something I can just mentally gloss over. I'm very fortunate that I CAN pay for it, but it does require choosing an in-state school, moving assets around, planning for a few extra years of work that I otherwise could have skipped, etc. The VERY rich don't have to think about that kind of thing. The VERY rich just think, "Oh my son didn't get accepted to Yale on his own merits? I'll just go donate a new Science Library building or something." Those on more average incomes look at a $3MM net work and think it means private jets, homes across Europe, forty thousand dollar hand bags, and whatever other crap they see on television. That don't realize that $3MM wouldn't last a year with that kind of lifestyle. I figure you'd have to get up to about $30MM to start living like that on the interest, which is still only MID rich. The REALLY rich think, "Private jet? Is that your big flex? That's cute."

[@smksfla]

Not sure this is a true evaluation of the Eray. Sound more like you didn't understand how to use it. Kind of like the first time someone drives a FWD and goes into a corner. I'm sure if you took additional time to figure out power on driving, you'd be more impressed with the Eray.

[@TimRobertsen]

I want the 1. gen NSX

[@shadowbotz4293]

Eray is 655 HP.

[@richarddobreny6664]

For a street car and keeping it mildly legal, I would say no, besides, the electronic nannies restrict the insanity

[@skip741x3]

Unfortunately, the "average consumer" wont be able to afford a car that costs as much a a small home...150-200k is a crazy amount of money for a car ...its hard to believe there are alot of people with that kind of money burning a hole in their pocket LOL.

[@burprobrox9134]

Music’s a bit much

[@MrCarCrazy]

Great video

[@gtrzero2157]

Weight, the eray is too heavy for track, it's a gt car for sure.

[@kentowakai1234]

Love the content for normies. Thank you

[@erniethedachshundshorts]

And then there's the zr1

[@sp1pilot]

The only people who continue to defend the eray are eray owners who refuse to admit they bought the wrong one.

[@danam0228]

Thought you'd be driving C6, C7 and C8 instead of talkkng about car like Yaris and 3 different C8s

[@RassoolRacing]

Driving every generation is Donuts schtick

[@emusoda]

This doesn’t make sense. You say the z06 has more “mechanical” grip than the eray? Well I’m sorry to say but they are the exact same chassis as each other. The only difference is the Z07 package that added the FE7 suspension which was not in the car you drove

[@RassoolRacing]

Maybe I misspoke. I was including the tires in mechanical grip. Is that not how you'd refer to it?

[@emusoda]

@@RassoolRacingyes but they are also the same size tires. The tire is different from eray to z06 but the grip difference is very minimal.

[@RassoolRacing]

@@emusoda oh, then I didn't make it clear. The difference is tread wear. 320 vs 300 doesn't sound like a lot, but the 4S perform closer to a 200tw tire and when you add to that a 500lb difference in the two cars the Z06 has significantly more lateral grip off throttle.

[@AdrenalineJunkie25]

It’s never enough

[@RDEnduro]

So your saying the base corvette is only one wheel drive? Kinda lame. Shouldnt a sports car come with some kind of diff

[@DaveSpen]

It's two wheel drive, rear only, and of course it has a differential

[@RassoolRacing]

The electronic limited slip differential is optional on the stingray.

[@michaeldodd9302]

@@RassoolRacingI don’t believe that’s accurate. All trim levels of the C8 come with eLSD.

[@RassoolRacing]

@@michaeldodd9302 Yes, what I meant was I wonder how it interacts with the front axle getting power in the e-ray

[@michaeldodd9302]

@@RassoolRacing I understand…. 🙂

[@cs.8821]

I own a c8 z06...if someone says nice c8 to me i tell them its a z06 not c8 stingray..

[@xtnuser5338]

But if they say, "Nice C8," then they didn't SAY stingray. So why would you correct a mistake that wasn't made?

[@ClaudioBattaglin]

I don’t thing anyone has ever said “Nice C8” to me. If they even know it’s a Corvette, they just love the look and sound and it makes them feel happy. That’s all that matters. :). But yes….loving my Z06 Z07.

[@aswerty312]

Having a 200k toy is mildly rich?

[@TheCarpenterUnion]

Realistically, yes. If you look at the top 20%'s income, this is comfortably attainable as early as age 35.

[@Tharley87]

None of these cars are 200k….or even close to it. A fully loaded Z06 with a Z07 package is around 160 I believe, but you can get a base z06 for 115. A base stingray can be had in the 60s. When the average new car is currently 48k, a base stingray isn’t too far away.

[@michaeldodd9302]

There are two kinds of wealth: 1. A person that has a job that pays $200k per year, but doesn’t have a lot in the bank, cause their money is tied up in a house note and other expenses. 2. The person who claims $200k per year as salary from the interest earned from the $20 million they have in the bank. The first is mildly wealthy… the second is straight up wealthy.

[@cs.8821]

U can buy c8 z06 sticker 110k to 117k new now

[@xtnuser5338]

Yes, MILDLY rich can get you into a $200k toy. It would be your baby. Your wife wouldn't be allowed to drive it. You would fuss over it. The other end of the "rich" spectrum are people with many billions of dollars, people who might--if they were so inclined--buy a $200k toy for their sixteen year old daughter's first car, then buy her another one a month later after she wrecked the first one. Those people are the VERY rich.

[@rickygodette]

Not the full lineup

[@z06doc86]

Corvette buyers are not your “average consumer”.

[@mattabell3657]

So just looking at your username and pic. I’m a red C8 Z06 owner, a physician and born in 1986. Are you me?

[@z06doc86]

@@mattabell3657 I was born in 1954. My new 2024 Z06 HTC is Sea Wolf grey and the red C8 Coupe was just sold. My 2021 C8 Z51 HTC is shadow gray. Need to update the photo. I’m still practicing Internal Medicine after 35 years because it love it more than my cars.