2020 BMW F900XR vs Ducati Multistrada 950S | Review

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[@enkeierick]

What kind of shoei helmet is that?

[@lyndonstickley4543]

I test rode the F900XR back to back with the Multi 950S. My head said the BMW was a safer choice and and easier bike to immediately feel comfortable with, but my heart said the Ducati. I’m now 1500 miles in on the 950S and I am SO happy with it. The ride position, the playfulness, the response, the tech... it’s awesome!! The heat is a non issue, don’t know why it’s mentioned. My bike is purely for fun and touring... sunny days and twisty roads. Maybe it would be different if it was an urban commute, but for what I want, which is boat loads of grins, it’s absolutely perfect! Luggage is fab, passenger ride excellent and as for the suspension options, i love it more than I thought I could!

[@jamiedyer7782]

Hello mate im in the same boat I just been on the 950s and love it, im just worried that maybe the f900xr would be better for sportier riding with the 17 inch front wheel? what do you think?

[@lyndonstickley4543]

Jamie dyer that was a consideration of mine too, though I’m not a die hard speed freak. The problem with the f900xr for me was that it felt a bit bland. And it seemed to have such a natural default for the centred upright position that I felt like it was trying to return me to upright as I was leaning it. Whereas the 950s just kept wanting to lean more. I’m no biking expert and so don’t have the miles or years to tell you about the 20 bikes I’ve owned... this is my 3rd bike and I got into biking after 25 years driving... however, what I can say is that I now know 2 multistrada 1260 owners (1260s and pikes peak) who have decades of biking experience and now own 950s’ and say that it’s the best bike they’ve ever had - because they can ‘rag everything out of it and have loads of fun.’ Every time I get on mine, it feels like an event. I’m not sure if I’d feel the same about the bmw. In fact I know I wouldn’t. I also rode a mate’s bmw r1250 RS exclusive last week... he raves about it. And you know what? It felt awful compared to mine... quickshifter like a tractor and nowhere near as exciting. Btw I have nothing against BMW’s and to be honest I’m not a fan of Ducati as a brand because I’ve got cars in my blood rather than bikes so I just take each bike on it’s merits rather than pedigree. I was going to test ride the S1000XR as an alternative as the bmw sales guy said that it would be a better comparison, but I decided that I didn’t need or want 160bhp! In summary, the 950S is playful, exciting and super capable. But it is very upright, which is exactly what I wanted. A 17inch wheel would make it more focussed and sporty, but also throws you forward and loses the upright position (like it does with the XR or the 1260S). So, I’d say that position has to play a big part in the decision making, whatever bike you are looking at. I came from a Z900 RS and it had a virtually identical position to the XR. And although both on 17 inch wheels and with a more forward position, I feel that I can be way more aggressive and confident on the 950S (than either of the other two) because it feels more nimble, leans harder and has an unbelievable quickshifter. Hope that helps!! Happy to answer more questions though everything is subjective. 👍🏻

[@jamiedyer7782]

@@lyndonstickley4543 Yeah I feel you. I was following the freelance test rider on the ducati and it was honestly one of the best experiences of my life, he was not messing around. I couldnt feel the bike move at all during the ride, the active suspension was amazing at keeping the bike planted. I am beginning to think that the 19inch wheel and the height is part of what makes the 950s so exhilarating. Comparing it to my mums MT07 you can throw the 950s into the corner and get so much lean angle it feels scary where the MT07 eats up every corner so well it makes you want to push it at insane speeds into corners just to try to get it to lean over, plus you can feel every bump and mistake you make, even not being smooth enough braking. The 950s is definitely my dream bike for sure!

[@jamiedyer7782]

@@lyndonstickley4543 Also the twin cylinder engine! I couldnt have the s1000xr because I just love the sound of a twin grunting through 3rd and 4th haha that narrows it down quite a bit!

[@pg88corfu]

@@lyndonstickley4543 you had previously the z900rs.. So let me ask... What's about the abrupt throttle response in on and off fueling? Was it annoying? Sure the 4 cylinder engine had another more smooth character than this L twin brutal force engine on the Italian beauty, but they say that being low geared the Z900 rs is a torque monster lifting the front wheel even in 3rd with a pull of the throttle... Consumption was another issue not to choose a 4 cyl bike.. But Tell us your experience... What you miss more from the Kawa?

[@chrissdegrece]

GREAT REVIEW, finally a nice city review. Especially the heat point. A bike is also ridden daily and not only for touring. Engine heat and city comfort are very important.

[@RayRicDay]

Always doing good reports and videos. I finally bought the Ducati and I can’t be happier. Many thanks

[@corujariousa]

Great video review! You both brought up important aspects I did not see mentioned in other videos. It seems your review was more realistic/honest and less of a commercial. Greatly appreciated.

[@HD2O13XL12OOC]

I can guess before even watching the entire thing who's going to win cuz it's these guys. I'd go for the Ducati in a heartbeat.

[@ravivSimplyRide]

I can reply on this thread now, after owning both bikes, without a doubt it is the BMW. Had the BMW for 1.5 years, then swapped to the Ducati for also 1.5 years. Now I am back on the BMW, overall so much refined bike. We did a road trip from London to Bucharest, and with full luggage and 2 riders. Overall the BMW was a gem. We covered 5000 Miles without an issue. Sorry, Ducati, the build quality isn't great, and the heat is a huge problem especially in southern and eastern Europe (from May to September its simply uncomfortable to ride).

[@samiam5326]

Heat is a major issue for me when city-riding in a hot country like Australia. Thanks for the heads up and keep up the good work.

[@nokneedownian8521]

Here in the UK we don't need to worry about that well for 364 days of the year 😂

[@samiam5326]

no knee down ian 😂

[@Whos-That-Guy]

AGREE! I'm in melb and while it we have cool winters, the summer is as hot as up north. My 1190 is dangerously hot! Dehydration and heat exhaustion has almost caught me out twice. On 1 occasion it was 38c, I found myself on the log jammed freeway, cars everywhere and my air temp sensor was saying it was 56c! All the heat from the other cars and my bike was slow roasting me! Although any big cc bike would suffer but V twins are stupid hot.

[@khakimzhanmiras]

No BMW I’ve ever ridden has had a heat issue. On the other hand I burnt my thigh on a monster 😂

[@niallmcmenamin7368]

@@khakimzhanmiras I once rode my air cooled r1200gs through central Italy in August with short boots and kevlar jeans... My shins nearly burnt with the heat from the cylinders.! There was a heatwave at the time to be fair.

[@williamdavis5800]

I was looking at both bikes. I went with the Multisrada 950s. I made the right choice. The BMW made me feel cramped. 90 degree day here today and I didn't feel that much heat. The Multi is a blast to ride.

[@Shahar_C]

Thank you, great video ! And using English is much appreciated.

[@ForgotToMentionThat]

From America here, your reviews are highly enjoyable, keep up the good work!!!

[@jolebole-yt]

I have a Multi 950 and the heat is not a problem while riding. You can feel it while riding only on hot days when you are stopped on a light or slow traffic. You are sittign on top of a engine. Of course its gonna generate heat. Feels great in the colder days :) . Anyhow nice comparison. +1. Dont be modest, the Ducati handles like a dream.

[@MikeHenrick1]

I’m the same love my 950s 2021 no real issue with the heat but problems are all relevant to your expectations, and if your the sort that uses face cream or not. I started riding trials bikes at 8 we would be out all day rain, snow sun, never really bothered me. Just got on with it.

[@kaiivalo169]

Heat is certainly not a problem where I live in Scotland. With the Ducati I suggest you need to use the revs and gears more. It's also more fun that way. I used to have R1200GSes before the 950S and while the Ducati has less power and torque, it's so much more fun and the handling is amazing. Not sure on what you mean by the vibrations. Good review.

[@777yakuza777]

Multistrada is generally one of the best and convenient motorcycles for traveling and has much premium towards its competitors.

[@Kevin-px7so]

Thanks for this review and looking at both here in Thailand. Heat is a big issue so thanks for talk about that. Great reviews and would like to see perhaps the Tracer 900 GT or the Tiger GT Pro against the BMW. Thanks guys!

[@DriveMagRiders]

Our pleasure!

[@volodymyrforos1031]

Nail in the tire and heat in the arse)) guys you are just great and the best!

[@mereclander]

I like both bikes, maybe I should choose the BMW because of the after sales service and it’s liability. Very good test!!!

[@StunningToaster]

Your certainly correct about after sales service, any issues are just ignored by Ducati dealers if you want anything done you have to make a complaint to Ducati in Italy.

[@mauriziozanni4161]

Good luck with the Chinese motor...lol

[@expatbiker6598]

You guys make videos that all motorcyclists want to see. I was always curious about comparison between middleweight adventure bikes. If you added tiger 900 and trace 900 gt. This could have been perfect.

[@beanburnham01]

Expat Biker what he said 👆👆

[@lyndonstickley4543]

The Tiger 900 GT pro was a consideration for me when testing these two in this review. From what I’ve read, it is a real contender. But I couldn’t get around to getting to the dealership to ride it, because in my heart, I couldn’t love it enough from it’s aesthetics... it just felt very safe from a looks viewpoint and so my heart wasn’t in it. Dodgy logic I know, but each to his own. However, I can comment on the Tracer 900 GT as I regularly get on and off one of those, back to back with my 950S as my brother has one and we swap on rides. For the money, I think the Tracer GT is unbeatable. The function, form and luggage make it fantastic value. It’s light, very quick and easy to ride with confidence. Though it is not in the same league as the 950S. The difference in build quality is really noticeable throughout, as well as ride quality, comfort, position, stability. Everything. I suppose if you’re on the small side and are intimidated by the weight of the Ducati at junctions and slow speed, then the Tracer is much easier to handle. And it’s engine is very responsive. I personally couldn’t get on with the Tracer as a permanent bike as it feels like I’m pushed over the tank a little in the ride position... a bit like a scrambles bike, whereas on the Ducati, I feel like I’m sat back more. If your budget is £10K though, then the Tracer is brilliant. If it’s £15K, the 950s blows it away. IMHO 😊

[@robertmarsh3588]

F900XR is a lovely bike but the engine is dull, although it does the job. The boxers I normally ride have so much more character. Lovely handling, great ergonomics, just doesn't feel like a quality product. So easy to ride though. Need to get a test ride on the Ducati now. Quite fancy one.

[@yarflocrispy8814]

Here in the states the base msrp of the XR is over $5k less than the multistrada, thats a huge difference. I feel like a lot of people in comments are forgetting that

[@HD2O13XL12OOC]

Good point

[@kee7678]

@@HD2O13XL12OOC and apples to apples the BMW is at least 2k more than the Yam Tracer GT

[@khurshidhere]

Exactly. Absolutely right!....around 6k difference is there. I would buy BMW save the extra amount for service , accessories,maintenance!

[@dennism1919]

Nice review, guys! I like how you broke it down. Personally I lean towards the Ducati. There is just something about the 900 XR look that I don't like. There is almost a kind of cheapness to it - I dunno. It just doesn't do it for me. And I don't much care for parallel twins - especially that one. So yeah, if it were my money - I would go with the Ducati. It is a better bike for me.

[@johnschotz1614]

Love this channel. Lot of knowledge and great reviews!

[@brendanobrendan9]

Thanks guys .. I have been waiting for this comparison review

[@DriveMagRiders]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@jade509]

Very nice and usefull video. Best regards from Serbia.

[@christianmouraux7269]

Ducati 👍👍

[@artmchugh5644]

BTW. THE BIKE NOW HAS 93.000 MILES ! 😄😄😄😄🍺🍺🍺

[@leonv1553]

Hello DMR guys. Useful comparison, as is the comments section. Looks like a lot of experienced riders are looking for exactly this package. I suspect any heat issues are now a big deal, with even cool climates getting 40° plus temps. Yes pollution doesn't help. We are 4000 years over due for an ice age, so melting ice caps is pretty normal on the lead up. That's how the oceans are cooled enough for deep freeze down or up to the twenty fifth parallel. Hello Panama! Right? Anyway, one issue for me is the clattery sounding engines. After too many years on carefully serviced Kawasakis, I am very used to silky, smooth sounding and long running bikes. How long? Around a million sport touring km, on a handful of bikes. No don't need the searing power anymore, hence the 950 interest, not the touring dragster 1200s. The Ducati seems about right, except for the black nose and boring, invisible black front fender. Easy fix of course. Happy Trails!

[@smurik1]

It’s true Riding in a leather jacket on summer time it’s a bad idea. I have 2020 Bmw F900R fully loaded and I took my alpine leather jacket same as yours on a hot summer day and I said what a bad idea. Also the hit is coming mostly from left side. I’m looking for a tallest seat right now but no luck here in Canada. I have to order from Germany. Not feeling comfortable at all with stock seat, I am 6 foot tall. Great honest video Thanks

[@prabhakarganapathy9469]

Perfect. this is what i am expecting from you guys. Due to some reason not many experts like you avoiding reviewing the Ducati so long. You are more lean towards BMW in some places but its ok after long time you did the review of Ducati. Thanks.

[@helgejohan3604]

Ducati feels a lot faster 🤙🔥

[@Diaboluss999]

I like Your videos, keep workin guys! Best regards from Czech!

[@DriveMagRiders]

Thanks! Will do!

[@tigerick7291]

An excellent comparison review boys. Well done.👍

[@hunkyleepickle]

multi 950 is so underrated, such good deals to be had on them. F900xr is oppositely overhyped i feel. Dull chinese made parallel twin vs. proven italian twin.

[@gpzfan5272]

greg alford the dulls Chinese made parallel twin is also proven, having been used by BMW for over a decade

[@Paolo1]

greg alford you obviously know absolutely nothing about contract manufacturing

[@martythompson6509]

I ended up choosing the beemer. 6k on it now. Comfort seat and bar risers turn it into a lounge chair. I know you guys made comment on the shifter. Mine works great both ways??? My only real complaint is it's a little slow steering. The wide bars mask it somewhat, but at 29.5° it's lazier than a 2021 Indian Dark horse chief.....😂 The trade off is excellent stability and dirt road steering. 👍

[@edwinbarahona303]

I have the 950s Multistrada and all I can tell you is “I love it” the heat coming from the engine hitting your legs still not a big issue.

[@silvsiri3478]

I’m looking at a 950s , is the heat an issue on a warm day?

[@edwinbarahona303]

Silvsiri When is too hot like 90F and up you’ll feel it but still for me not a problem . This motorcycle rocks 👍🏼 you are not going to be disappointed.

[@MrBecksy2]

Worth adding the Multi has a 19” front wheel while the XR has a 17” front. That makes a difference and would put me off the Multi.

[@gabrieltiso8537]

Agreed! Crazy town how this gets overlooked. Would love to know how the Multi's handling sharpens with a 17"

[@quiver99]

I have a BMW F850 GS, but between the two, I’d go Ducati. So much better.

[@mnnic4292]

Interesting and honest review. Thanks. Cheers!

[@DriveMagRiders]

Thanks for watching!

[@niallmcmenamin7368]

The F900XR looks a lot like a Versys 650, especially the back end. Same format too...

[@JohnMFlores]

Love your channel. Always good insight! Subscribed!

[@סםפסח]

Great video thanks alot. Keep it up!

[@Speedytrip]

This convinced me to try and demo the 2022 Multistrada V2S

[@pistolpete6321]

Great comparison video!

[@wannabemotorcyclist2232]

Love your videos. Here in India both Triumph and Ducati just recently launched the Tiger 900 and Multistrada 950 S respectively. Would be great if ya'll could compare both these motorcycles. Thank you!

[@dragandimovski4935]

Even this is old testing do you think that heating from the engine on XR was so bad in city trafic? I live in country with very hot summer like yours.. I tested F800 gs 2024 ( similar engine) and feel some heat from the left side but not too much, not so sxcessive. I like your chanels very much! Regards

[@Accurize2]

These guys are just likable.

[@sergiuulici3908]

were likable,, one of them just passed away .RIP

[@Porsche996driver]

So the BMW handles better, quicker out of the turns, smoother, quieter, runs cooler, superior clutch, way nicer display and controls, about $5k less, yet you both pick the Ducati?! Huh????

[@jonts1776]

because Ducati. that's the best reasoning you will get, hahaha

[@mikehamilton9128]

Excellent reviews guys! I currently ride a 2017 Yamaha Super Tenere and I am considering moving to lighter, sportier bike and the bikes I am thinking of are the BMW F900XR, Ducati Multistrada 950 and the Yamaha Tracer 900GT, so thanks for the reviews, so how does the Yamaha Tracer 900GT compare to these bikes? Keep up the great work!

[@DriveMagRiders]

Thanks! We also did an F900XR vs. Yamaha Tracer GT comparison a couple of months ago. Check it out :) The Tracer comes with a nice engine, sporty character and there are so many good things to say about that bike. However, it's the snatchy throttle and the comfort that we don't like. And it's not so nimble in the corners.

[@mikehamilton9128]

Thanks for the reply, I have watched the Tracer 900 GT review and I wondered which order you would rate these three bikes for touring and sporting riding?

[@leonembo6278]

And, by the way, still a nice and honest video!

[@billcushion1049]

The BMW is like a Sport Touring bike because that’s what it is

[@booshallmighty]

This review is so close obviously both great bikes. The only way to find out which one is best is to ride them both yourself, because the best bike is whatever you think it is.

[@Thizlamic]

The Multi looks like an ANGRY BULL. The F900XR looks like an ALIEN MANTIS. I want both.

[@cromablu]

Ducati tutta la vita! 🤙🤙🤙

[@suppersready4you]

Great video guys as always! I can't understand why in Century 21st with all the technology available motorcycles still heating up to an unbearable point where discomfort becomes very annoying to rider and passenger Not only BMW and Ducati, also KTM and Triumph (I had to get rid of brand new Explorer after 2 months of purchasing it back in 2018) UNBEARABLE HEAT not acceptable when spending 16k+ in this "advanced" machines

[@kugangles9860]

Blame the Euro emissions crap. The more strict they get the hotter our bikes have to run to meet these standards.

[@leonembo6278]

The wind deflector on that horizontal position on the Multi cannot be seen! It's true that the Multi original windshield create some turbulence, but that, horizontal, still cannot be seen!

[@paradoxiCk]

I d like to see your review of the super tenere!

[@UFGgamings]

Why tho, it's like 10 years old without any upgrades.

[@geertd3244]

Interesting. I rode the BMW last week, and although it's a solid bike, I wasn't really impressed. The quickshifter sucks, the engine and exhaust sound are not pleasant, it feels quite tame, saddle way to hard and made my ass, back and shoulders hurt after an hour or two. It looks cool though, for a touring type of bike. In two weeks I'm testriding the 950s , curious to see if that one cán set my pants on fire.

[@enkeierick]

You test ride the new supersport-s? How was it?

[@geertd3244]

@@enkeierick In the above comment I meant the Multistrada 950s :p the supersport 950s didn't exist yet haha.

[@ithaca3929]

Excelent video. congrats

[@DriveMagRiders]

Thank you very much!

[@AyoHues]

You should definitely review the MV Agusta Turismo Veloce SCS. More expensive bike but answers all the criticisms against these two bikes.

[@twil9531]

Those mirrors on the XR are hideous.

[@hayrivonnebenan5127]

agreed, on my 900r same shit!

[@gpzfan5272]

Hayri von Nebenan you bought the €400 billet mirrors for your F900R and you think they look shit? Why’d you get them 😂

[@lordmalayanorca7943]

are you guys touring in sofea? beauty city..

[@DriveMagRiders]

Brasov, Romania

[@ddouras]

I'm 187cm height. Which one do you suggest for taller riders?

[@alejandrovarela3818]

Ducati, of course , BMW Donat hace soul!!!

[@rramirrezz]

great review guys. f900xr seemed to be a nice bike, but then i recognized the much to short seatbase of the passengers seat. thats ridicoulous for a sports-touring bike.

[@DriveMagRiders]

Fair enough!

[@TheAskme32]

So for hot countries like Greece and city traffic both of these would have heat issues. So I bet tracer is better if heat is concerned.

[@jonb3860]

2020 s1000xr vs 1260 pls

[@captaindonald]

Just a question is the front tyre on the BMW fitted in the wrong manner?

[@DriveMagRiders]

Nope. :)

[@alfonsofornabaio3482]

Hi Dudes. No match in favor of the Multistrada 950s. You didn't mention at all that the Multistrada when equipped with knobby tires it can handle everything. And the Bmw cannot. Greetings from a Multistrada Enduro pro owner..

[@mauriziozanni4161]

This channel is always very pro BMW...nothing new here.

[@hayrivonnebenan5127]

@DriveMag Riders Can you pls tell us your Gear wearing in this video? The Jeans u wear is nice. Ty

[@DriveMagRiders]

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[@OntarioAndrews415]

Good review. However, you're both wrong. Go with the BMW!!!!! :)

[@DarioRapisardi]

I would also chose the Ducati, even if I think the BMW is a slightly better bike, but just because of the design. Both bikes look the same, but I hate copycats, and I can't understand why BMW keeps copying Ducati for their touring lineup, completely unnecessary.

[@robertmarsh3588]

Eh? Which bikes has BMW copied?

[@mikefry6765]

BMW invented this class of bike with the GS

[@dragostiganuc4671]

Baieti, felicitari pentru efortul pe care`l faceti , dar as fi preferat sa vorbiti mai mult in ROMANA , si sa puneti o sub in Engleza Va rog pe viitor sa mai lasati dreq Engleza

[@DriveMagRiders]

Salutare. Urmareste canalul "PeMotoare" - acolo vei gasi versiunile in limba romana.

[@oliviermissal8739]

Where is the heated seat on the XR 😭😭😭😭

[@prowler13prowler]

How woild you compare these bikes with the 790 adventure s? Its not a direct comparison, but the price is similar, and even thoigh these are more street orientated than the ktm, most of the reviews say the ktm is really good on street.....

[@DriveMagRiders]

Yes, the KTM is fantastic on street, but it lacks the torque compared to these two. It's also less comfortable. Otherwise, it's absolutely fun to ride.

[@dgomes265]

Significant price gap between them. $5k in Canada. The 950 (Non S model) would have been a better comparison.

[@Boxer1250RT]

Buy the GS and never look back. Both are Fugly as Hell. They depreciate like Rock as soon as you leave the showroom. Cheers!

[@sv650nyc7]

The GS is the fugliest of them all.

[@paulharvey5053]

Not the best sound from the engine on the BMW

[@fs5866]

It is a Chinese engine

[@clawbass888]

@@fs5866 It's EURO 5 restrictions. So BORED to hear anything about chinese engine omg. Just buy a link pipe and exhaust and hear the difference. Multi sounds like crap also. All bikes now sounds like crap.

[@fs5866]

@@clawbass888 no have you heard the Africa Twin?that bike has a really satisfying sound with stock exhaust and it will run for years with no reliability issues,unlike this Chinese "BMW" cheap boring engine.

[@clawbass888]

@@fs5866 I rode Africa and have raw sounds of all exhausts on my channel, so I really know what i'm saying. I can say that AT exhaust is ok, but no so cool, for me they are all boring now, and that is not an engine problem. Regarding reliability, of cource it is a question of time, and perhaps Honda could be better on long distance like 200k+ km. I had CBR1100XX for five years and about 50k km withiout problems, but 50k km can do all the engines. Only time will tell.

[@lovelessissimo]

Seems like KTM is the only company that can make a parallel twin sound good.

[@macexpert7247]

Next the Ducati vs Moto Guzzi

Romanians.... Never underestimate the Romanians... This is a simple notion that people tend to forget. They ARE a force to be reckoned with, especially when it comes to having a "good ol' time"...

[@Youtube_Globetrotter]

I wish the screen was bigger on the Ducati.

[@mxg709]

I spent over a year living on a multistrada 1200 enduro . The heat when touring in big cities is insane !!! It caused Heat rashes. Also even though the bike looks beautiful after just 12 months the engine needed a rebuild. I agree the hand guards are pure garbage . Every time the bike would tip over the levers and hand guards would need to be replaced. Not cheap. My second year of ownership I was only able to ride the bike 20 days. it was in the shop the rest of the time. I can not recommend this brand due to ducati red warranty denying my engine rebuild claim due to a dirty chain. I rode 960 miles in 24 hours to the dealer so yes the chain was dirty . Go Japanese

[@mauriziozanni4161]

Never had a problem with mine and others friends bike. Sure you are not the problem?

[@mauriziozanni4161]

In my 55 years of age and 28 motorcycles I have put quite a lot of km's in in them. Everywhere. Starbucks is for gays, no thanks.

[@mxg709]

@@mauriziozanni4161 no need to be mean to gay people they ride motorcycles too. My point wasn’t how many bikes you have put miles on . It was the amount of time you toured on the Ducati . I have spent 7 of the last 10 years touring North America . I’ve used 2 Honda vtx1800f3, a yamaha bolt cafe, a Honda vfr1200f and a Ducati . The Ducati needed an engine rebuild after 12 months. That’s not acceptable! Not on a global adventure bike. I met 2 guys on the road who had dievel with same engine both had to be replaced . The day I picked up my bike after the rebuild there was a Ducati sports bike there new with no engine . Guess what mechanic said they had to replace the engine . Don’t know what the quality issue at ducati is . I rode 1500 days and 1000 mile days for the iron butt association. But any modern bike should handle that . My yamaha bolt handed 3000 miles in 4 days no problem . The bigger issue is ducati blaming a dirty chain because I rode 960 miles in 24 hours to their dealer as the reason the bike was shutting down and restarting on the highway . I almost fell under a semi. Had to speak to the ceo to get the warranty honored . That’s pure bullshit !!!!!! What’s worse is their customer service suggested I have one of the 3 kids charities I was working with pay for the $10,000 repair to the engines internals . How does a dirty chain damage pistons and cylinders . I lost the support of two of the charities because of all the delayed the Ducati caused. I can’t stand behind a company that doesn’t stand behind their products 110 percent and who’s customer survive pulls the shit they pulled with me . They don’t know the first thing about customer service.

[@mauriziozanni4161]

@mike granda If Ducati had the issues you describe, they would not sell the increasing number of bikes they sell worldwide. It could be that you have been unlucky, but I tend to think ( from my own personal experience) that the quality of the average motorcycle technicians (especially in the US) is exceptionally low. Either way, as of now, I also own a Triumph and a Yamaha, and I can't say they have been faultless but since I do repairs myself, I am able to keep all my vehicles efficient. I hope you will be satisfied with your next bike. P.S I didn't mean gay, I meant "posh". My bad.

[@mxg709]

@@mauriziozanni4161 I agree I think they had some issues on that engine model . Or an issue on the factory line. I ran into a guy at Sturgis who had his dievel 6 months and had to have the engine replaced. That was right before mine had issue. I ran into another guy in Alaska . The anchorage Alaska ducati dealer,Seattle ducati,Florida all told me I bought the wrong bike. Them as well as moto forza in Cali told me they couldn’t give my bike away and only sold 1 per year if lucky. I tried to trade mine in to every ducati dealer I could from Seattle to Cali to Orlando . They all said the same thing . That bike will sit here for years. People don’t want them they aren’t as good as the bmw or ktm. It took a year to sell mine and that was to a used bike dealer at a giant loss. But since I couldn’t ride the bike because it had another breakdown I had no choice but to sell it and drive a rental home. Only bike I ever regretted buying . Destroyed a life long dream and project that took years to set up. The ceo new that and even when a dealer said they would take the broken bike if ducati just fixed it and they would put me on a demo. Ducati said no. They new the bike was fucked and didn’t want to be responsible for it .

[@juve750]

950s with no power under 3500 rpm.... Lovely engine... Lol !!

[@gilvietor1918]

I own the 950s, I got it 2 weeks ago, I live in Lake Havasu City Arizona, it if quite warm here. I am pretty sure that most of the heat on my bike is coming from that catalytic converter. I plan on removing it soon. I had a Husky 701 Enduro before, and it was also a very warm bike on my butt then I ditched the stock exhaust and it was way cooler. Where my bike seems to get very hot, is you ride, then stop for fuel or to eat, where it sits for 10 minutes or more. This really gives a time for that exhaust piece to just cook everything. The complaint about the engine covers is something I notice only after stopping for a bit. Going down the road for even a couple hours it is fine, stop? There it is.

[@1DavidS67]

I'm moving back to AZ in the next month or 2. Cave Creek. I've been thinking about the 950S. Is the heat enough to where, if you were to do it over again, would it keep you from buying it? Thanks!

[@gilvietor1918]

@@1DavidS67 that is a tough question to answer, I really love the bike, and no matter what bike you get, the exhaust to make them pass emission standards for Europe make a ton of heat. For example, my 701 was really bad on my butt and leg, after I got rid of that, I was actually getting cold (up in Utah and other places high elevation)! The bike is just amazing, the only thing is the fuel level indicator doesn't seem to be very accurate, just track your miles even though the computer seems to get mpg correct. Recommend, highly. I still plan on getting rid of the catalytic converter, but we're moving to Wyoming soon, so I am not sure I want to do that now as I probably will need the heat!

[@1DavidS67]

@@gilvietor1918 Appreciate the response

[@GazVanDyk]

The only thing that lets the XR down is the engine. No soul.

[@grumpysprout3505]

Ducati is the better bike !....👍

[@Ioannes]

DUCATI TOP!!!!!!

[@skyworks1621]

Bikes are there to make fun and for that you need to be relaxed after few hundred kilometres. This 2 bikes are not for me, yesterday I made a one day tour to the Alps and made 600 km in a day on my Suzuki Vstrom 1000 XT. I ride sporty and fast but if engine heat would give me that uncomfortable filling I would go crazy.

[@sidheshpatil7120]

The CFMoto 650MT riders, particularly from India, haven't had any issues with engine heat around their feet. Besides, the looks are great and it won't cost you an arm and a leg. In short, the CFMoto 650MT shits on BMW and Ducati!

[@iainwall]

That bike is 1/2 the power and 1/3rd the cost though, without many of the 'premium' features on the BMW/Ducati. Nice bike but not really in the same class.

[@trysmthing4951]

I like ducati but heating issue no go for me . That why i love my africa twin. But i will give ducati one more chance will see

[@ampm9771]

How can BMW sell a bike with non adjustable front fork and electronic shock? 😅

[@ruezi12]

Fine video guys! Thanks for that. I had a great problem with the seat of the BMW. Much too hard and a uncomfortable position. But guys, why driving with hang off with an adventure bike? This doesnt fit.

[@aaronsmith2929]

The bike you buy in your 50’s?

[@silvsiri3478]

Aaron Smith just turned 47 , and I bought one. Never ever thought I would.

[@kee7678]

@@silvsiri3478 I'm 52, a former pro paraglider and hangglider and part time skydiver....and I can't decide between the Tracer and this XR. Never thought I'd like a BMW and....I'm pretty dang close!

[@carlocetin2879]

I've owned few motorbikes and have tried many but between all of them I have fallen in love with two. Yamaha R6 and Ducati Multistrada. I've had the R6 and bloody loved it. Now I am waiting to get the Multistrada probably my choice will go for the V2. Buying another one it would be a waste of time like staying with a girl you neither love nor like 😂

[@americanflyer4126]

I don't know why anyone would prefer that lame, uninspiring BMW inline twin when you can have a throbbing, exciting Italian V twin instead. BMW needs to copy one of Triumph's fantastic inline twins.

[@gpzfan5272]

American Flyer swap one uninspiring parallel (not inline) twin for another uninspiring parallel twin? Your comment makes no sense.

[@oderosaddler9431]

Freeload a few fleets of those to me right now in time for me

[@tech_90]

Very good. I like +1.

[@Szlejer]

I heard nothing but bad things about the new chinese Loncin engine in the BMW...

[@bazitube390]

It's old boring parallel twin with conventional firing order. Absolute scam at this price. People should just go for the 1000xr

[@MotorDanko]

@@bazitube390 conventional firing order? what is conventional firing order? 360? 180? 270? 315? 275?

[@ericiglesias4313]

Everybody bashes the chinese engine yet having 2 friends that own bmws ive never seen or heard of any problems with any of them so who knows

[@leroybrown6042]

German bike with a Chinese motor is just wrong, no thanks

[@ericiglesias4313]

@@leroybrown6042 most bikes you buy are assembled in one place but get parts from other places. Whether it be thailand, India or any place to get cheap labor.

[@alithejumbo]

I would go BMW... the Strada thing is too bulky for what it should be. Also it's kind of empty! I mean look at the gap between the fork and the radiator. Also the gap under the steering bars. Plus somehow it lacks identity. It doesn't feel 'Ducati'. And for its price tag? No! BMW is better.

[@miligen]

Two bikes which is not possible to compare. Ducati is the MOTORBIKE! This kind of "BMW" from China is bicycle only. The glory of BMW is out :-(

[@billcushion1049]

In Thailand the Multistrada 950S is THB 657,000 and the F900XR is only THB 535,000

[@sirikulsomsuwan]

I know the BMW & Ducati is built here ( Thailand ) not sure why a big difference in price?

[@IdealBike]

I really don't understand these bikes, they are an unuseful hybrid in my opinion. You can actually ride them only on roads, they are heavy and expensive with no revolutionary features. Thank you for sharing.

[@robertmarsh3588]

They've got great ergonomics and are perfect for the road for many riders. Not all of us want to ride off road, or to ride a sports bike.

[@Whos-That-Guy]

I had a sport tourer but wanted more comfort so I changed to a adventure bike. Visibility is also better cos your up higher plus I can confidently go down dirt roads for thousands of kms. Turns out I like a twisty dirt road more than a bitumen road... Each to their own but just cos the are not revolutionary doesn't mean they don't have a place or use. As a city commutator they are a little top heavy for going slow but the added visibility is a major safety factor. I don't think I could ever go back to a standard bike as my only ride. On my 1190 I have done track days and kept up with 600 super sports, 2 week off road trips through the Aus outback and commute through melb daily. I sold my fireblade cos I get as many thrills from my adventure bike.

[@hollowaysteve]

And yet you appear to own a Honda NC750X. Basically the same thing 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bressan1998]

The way you put your feet under the speed selector all the time is annoying me. But you may be a beginner. It's dangerous and reduce the control of the bike. But I don't know how you learn to ride in your country...