2024 Acura Integra Type S - Daily Driving The Newest Hot Hatch

[@taystew]

regular folks use to enjoy driving sporty integras and civics. now you gotta be a pharmacist or a dentist to get one

[@ShaiyanHossain]

i mean you can stil get an a spec for under msrp

[@astrophyzx]

It's inching on M340i territory which is nuts

[@aaromon43]

@@ShaiyanHossain anyone seriously interested in the type r or type s doesn't want that.

[@ROVA00]

@@ShaiyanHossainthe A spec is a regular civic. Not to mention it’s super ugly

[@buhketz]

Lol no. Type R has always been expensive. You had to have at least a bit of money to own one. Idk what makes you think that.

[@incyphe]

Man, you are so good at presenting, all in pretty much one take. So natural.

[@stanley2412]

12:19 The truck might have just kissed the RAM, lol. But your reaction had me a good laugh there🤣😂

[@googleleavemynamealone9145]

lol what a nervous wreck this guy

[@jxxxxx44]

​@@googleleavemynamealone9145 can't blame him when he's driving a compact hatchback and everybody else drives their F45000000000 SUPER GIGA DUTY.

[@cmasupra]

@@googleleavemynamealone9145 Not nervous, just a guy who cares for cars. The pickup truck then parking in a different spot also made it suspicious.

[@anaveragehuman2937]

you are so right about public being terrifying now. people are going more crazy than ever. can't be bothered to look out the windows, drugs, phones, road rage, no signals, diving across multiple lanes, no signaling, tailgating at 90... You know that gif of homer disappearing into the bushes? that's pretty much me now.

[@terencemichel8972]

It NEEDS the options of front cooling seats and a sunroof to be PERFECT !

[@theredsalmon612]

cooled seats and rear ac. NO sunroof

[@rickfelz7148]

Body rigidity is why it has no sunroof, affects the dynamics of the car

[@phillipsmith1489]

@@theredsalmon612 Outrageous that it has no rear air vents.

[@emmereffing]

this video is really a PSA about crippling social anxiety

[@jondoe6926]

More like a PSA about how pussified Gen Z be. Though he is right about stupid drivers being everywhere.

[@simonsmith582]

Great drive Topher! As a Canadian owner of a Type S, I can confirm that we (sadly) also don't get memory seats! I think the only difference between ours and yours is we get a heated steering wheel as standard.

[@wyattb8217]

I don't ever change my seat, I only push it back a little bit whenever I'm parked and eating. Personally, memory seats don't really make sense for me.

[@simonsmith582]

@wyattb8217 true if you're the only driver but my wife likes to drive this beast too, so the memory seats are nice!

[@arslan9665]

May I ask, what are some other features that you get standard on the Canadian integra over the American one?

[@simonsmith582]

@@arslan9665 I believe the only difference is the heated steering wheel.

[@ZWortek]

17:00 literally the exact thought going through my head while watching you get back in LOL

[@SnubBarracuda]

That thing looks outstanding! Also the white looks great but the blue...*chef kiss*

[@SerPurple51]

The bronze wheels look great with that blue color. Maybe it helps that blue is my favorite color 😂 It is a shame they dont make this Integra in a 2dr coupe. The price is absurd, but such is the case for almost all new cars. Overall seems like a great package but same issue as Honda in barely any options for customizing and individualizing the car.

[@bajabret60]

A few years ago I went from a small BMW to a mid-size pickup truck. It seems that the truck gets a lot more respect as far as not getting cut-off and in parking lots than the little car. However, I am really wanting to get back into a small sporty car again. Great review and ride along.

[@1partgeek]

This exterior/wheel color combo is SICK! Vibin like STI out here :)

[@jezebulls]

Man they kinda nailed it on the look. It’s been growing on me even more. BUT DAM, almost 60k for a FWD 4-cylinder hatch…..

[@BrayZap]

What I dont get is why does everyone look at MSRP and that's it? Who actually is dumb enough to buy cars new now a days? Give it a year, get a used one with 10k-20k miles (still practically a brand new car) and pay 35k for it which is what this car is really worth. It's a 35k car with the same specs as the Lancer Evo X and Subaru STI just glorified

[@locationly7355]

⁠@@BrayZapits definitely not going to be 35k in a year lmao take a look at the supra even the 2020 models are still sitting at 50-55k pre-owned and we're about to be in 2024.

[@BrayZap]

@@locationly7355 totally different cars lmao

[@bobbyjames3652]

⁠@@BrayZapUntil the market settles down, this isn’t like old times where buying a used car can yield you thousands of savings. New cars depending on markup, are a better buy these days than used. I would be willing to bet that this ain’t going to be 35K used anytime soon.

[@BrayZap]

@@bobbyjames3652 look at the veloster N and cars like that

[@DekiaryCarter]

Love these vids! I agree with you about the Integra type s. It’s such an ideal package. Acura knocked it out of the park. I’be driven it twice and I’m saving up to get one. I dig it

[@zalden2565]

It’s a manual. It doesn’t have a Park

[@tempestsquall5882]

Right when i saw you pull into that parking space so close to other cars i knew there would be trouble. People who daily big trucks and SUV's in town like thst are always the worst to be around.

[@joyceracing99]

Enjoyed the video! Keep 'em coming!

[@DOGO8991]

Absolutely love the content, these videos are legit relaxing for some reason. I love the way this car looks and probably feels lol, but the pricing kind of sucks. Curious to see how popular they become. Certainly don't expect to be seeing a ton of these where I live unfortunately

[@Tigerex966]

Just saw one in white. Easily the best looking current Honda or acura best looking hot hatch bar none. Only the audi a5 fastback sedan gives it competition but cost way more and no manual.

[@shahrukhbakar3248]

If Acura is watching: 1) Please offer a space saver tire option by deepening the wheel well; 2) Rear seat vents and charging connectivity; 3) option for 5th seatbelt 4) LogR mode and gauges 5) if no centre rear seat, why no centre armrest?

[@elfishcoder7287]

Acura isn't watching, and even if they were they wouldn't listen. Seriously, how dumb are you?

[@FunnyLittleGuys]

It’s so good looking! If only the dealer mark ups weren’t so brutal 😅

[@991carreras3]

I wouldn't worry about a markup at just under 60k out the door Acura is going to have a hard time finding a buyer. It will be more of a big discount just to it off the lot.

[@abdulgill5013]

Went to a Honda dealership and saw a 20k Markup on the new civic type r, crushed my wishes for wanting it anymore.

[@aquinomaster]

@@abdulgill5013yeah ikr? I hear people still buys em above msrp 15-20k market adjusted price :(

[@abdulgill5013]

@@aquinomaster Their excuse was that other dealers mark them up 40k, costing about 80-90k for one. This is incredibly insane, which they’re filled with greed, corruption, and ignorance for those who actually want it at the right price. Hearing someone talking about it is like “yeah yeah, that’s bad, moving on”. But when you’re being told up front from the dealers directly in person, that’s a whole another level. The purpose I went in for wasn’t even for the type r, it was to check out the new civic or accord. They also added a lot of the bs options to all their cars, so you’re being scammed one way or another. We need serious lawsuits against the dealers powers of market adjusting these vehicles to an extent. It should be about first come first served.

[@aquinomaster]

@@abdulgill5013 man yeah i know what you mean they should have a law saying market adjusted price is either illegal or limited up to a certain number sadly I’m one of the suckered ones that paid above msrp just recently bought a gr corolla ce and their lame excuse was its very limited and hot item if i dont buy it today someone else will and someone did come for it the same time i was at the dealership didn’t wanna go to a bidding war so i told them my price take it or leave it. I should have just stood my ground but it is what it is. But at first they wanted 16500 more on top of msrp which is crazy

[@craigster1234]

Exhaust burbles are the silliest thing ever.

[@carleontafari]

Nope!

[@craigster1234]

@@carleontafari They are ridiculous.

[@scarboy6693]

I had a 2023 A-Spec 6MT Integra for about 7 months and quite enjoyed it. Was looking forward to this car but the price threw me off big time even after getting to drive it. I think if it had the seats of the FL5 Type R that would help justify the price as the standard Integra seats are okay at best. I sold my Integra and moved to an RDX A-Spec as I have lower back issues from a bad car wreck some years ago and the seats were causing me some pain on my commute. But this and the FL5 just are an absolute blast to drive and maybe later down the road I'll be able to find an FL5 (Thankfully I have an ND2 Miata to use as a weekender/fun car too)

[@tv321123]

Your not wrong. Paying so much for a FWD based car is a bit silly. You could get a handful of new RWD based competitors for the same money. And two handfuls of RWD based cars that are 2-3 steps above on the second hand market for cheaper. Also as someone with a bad back too, try the Lexus F or F sport seats...

[@scarboy6693]

@@tv321123 I actually owned a 2015 IS350 F-Sport and those seats were incredibly comfy too as I drove that car cross country in the time I had it. I did drive a few cars including the new NX and Even the Mazda CX-5 and CX-50. Ultimately I just really like the feel of Honda products along with SH-AWD the RDX is fun to drive even if it's not the spec sheet king. Seats are comfy and I love the sound system.

[@bobloescapee7909]

I ended up trading in my 6mt aspec as well. I wanted to wait for the type s but the price threw me off as well cause I didn't even think the aspec was truly worth its asking price. I ended up going with a 23 BRZ cause I am young and wanted a true sports car experience that wouldn't cost me an arm and a leg. I do miss my aspec but I am much happier with the BRZ as I feel it was priced much more accordingly.

[@mikemccormick6128]

@@tv321123 Why would you even consider a FWD car when you obviously think RWD is better?

[@ScbyPwr]

Seats feel like they come from the RDX. They are much more comfy than the Integra seats

[@HowYouuuDoinnn]

Integra Type-Station wagon

[@livinginwilderness7913]

Your review was very nice and quite entertaining, thanks! I imagine you going home and start picking on fridge handle “why is it all covered with jam”, or “what kind of a shoe that has white laces”, I laughed at the shoe, the lug nut, the jeep without the rear glass coz I do the exact same all the time. 😂

[@yaseoul8475]

I live in Ohio but often drive to Ann Arbor. There are so many bad drivers in Michigan nowadays. It's either left lane hogs, people who don't check their mirrors when reversing, or people that literally do not know how to do a 90 degree right turn. I was waiting to turn left out of a shopping plaza and this middle aged white guy in his red Ford explorer right turns into the plaza, crosses the solid yellow line into oncoming traffic and almost crashes into my car. The yellow line is literally in the middle of his car at this point. I honked at him but then he gets insanely angry. It's crazy how many people don't know how to do a proper right turn and believes that you have to give them literally the entire planet of space.

[@albertogonzalez1746]

Is this more engaging and fun to drive than a 230i?

[@ryanmattson1735]

60k! That is outrageously expensive for a car of this caliper.

[@jezebulls]

*Caliber?

[@gregblack8550]

No the caliber of the car is fine for 53 k.The car’s performance and features are on par. The problem is that Cars in general are ridiculously expensive and only go down in value . Except for a used Camry or Accord they are not money wise decisions. Unfortunately I love cars and willingly bought a type S.To me it drives better than my buddys 75 k Beamer so there’s that .

[@balaysked]

This is one of the best looking cars ever made.

[@closg9309]

Get a GTI for 35k and tune it for 600-700 bucks, instant 330HP. My Mk8 with stage 2 is at 363WHP. No where near 55k-60k this thing will cost oh and I have cooled seats, sunroof, memory seats, usb C ports in the rear , and arm rest in the rear 😂

[@sengsythao1896]

Type R and Type S are nice cars, I just have one major gripe for them, there are no traditional handbrake. GR Corolla is the pick I would go to, since it has the traditional handbrake system, plus awd for all season weather. But still nice review man! 😎👍

[@duck8280]

Why do you need a handbrake in a FWD car 😭

[@sengsythao1896]

@duck8280 it's personal preference, and I'm old school. 😎👍

[@cmasupra]

@@duck8280 A traditional handbrake is useful for slowing down in incognito mode when you discover you're accidentally driving too fast and don't want to alert others to your mistake.

[@duck8280]

@@cmasupra that’s extremely ratchet

[@emilianoorozco6498]

I found people like you to be unicorns . Sticking to some ideology that’s seems outdated by the modern society

[@_Pikalika_]

Before watching the video, I have the same problem with that car like I have with the new Civic type R, they are hot hatches that lose their hatch, it looks more and more like a sedan. Accord type R And the price, that's crazy

[@xelawash]

Dude your commentary during filming was awesome! 👊

[@19hundoc47]

Remember when upper level civics and integras were attainable by anyone

[@tradewindsurfer3814]

I never realized how close you were, It's fun to see you go down all the roads I know so much faster 😆

[@uncleogee604]

Ypsitucky!

[@dewaynebeard5324]

BEAUTIFUL CAR!

[@MattN03]

Loved seeing a DD perspective on this car as this would be exactly how I'd use it. Thanks!

[@cypresschino]

Fantastic car for $40k. I love it. But $55k out the door at most dealers? Nope. Im a huge honda fan but this is just out of control, stop the madness. There are tons of great options at that price range. Sadly this car will be discontinued in about 2-3 years because no one will buy them.

[@vondroid8185]

I'm getting mine next week and I'm also from washoe county in sparks NV.

[@longplanning6273]

Great review!! What are your thoughts on the Integra Type S vs. CT4-V Blackwing with a stick? What would you rather own and daily?

[@mistamaog]

That F150 definitely did not crash, even tiny crashes make a really loud thud. Would've heard it through the mic.

[@aquinomaster]

Good looking car! I like how it looks plus the color! So 🔥

[@jjacob25101]

I'm not really heavy into performance now, plus I'm older and will be totally happy with something much more subdued, but if I had the money, and place to keep it, this would be my choice for a performance vehicle, and the hatch makes it much more practical and makes it much more desirable than a Type R, that I wouldn't even consider. And the ELS stereo is a very important factor. It's really nice with the gold wheels, and I love the Apex Blue Pearl and white orchid interior. Even an Integra A-Spec Technology Package this color would be nice, too, but not as awesome, but would have the ELS stereo.

[@terencemichel8972]

I think the type R is a hatchback ?

[@jjacob25101]

@@terencemichel8972 Yes, the Type R is a Hatchback, but the Type S is much more street friendly and nicer amenities, even though the new Type R has a Bose stereo I would get a Type S, but not a Type R, even though I like the Civic Sport Hatchback.

[@Quattro46]

I’m in the same boat, the A spec is something I’m going to look at. I think that has the moonroof and hopefully a heated steering wheel, plus I can still get a manual transmission.

[@jjacob25101]

@@Quattro46 I like the Civic Si, especially with the Bose stereo, but I want a hatchback for cargo utility, and the Si overkill to me, unless you like to race and mod your car a lot. The A Spec Technology Package is the more comfortable luxury version of the Si, like the Type S is to the Type R, plus you can get a CVT if you want, and the manual costs a bit more. But the win is the choices. The 1.5L turbo engine is not ideal to me, but it has 200 HP, instead of the 180 HP on the Sport Touring Hatchback, and the LSD with the manual. And I don't plan to abuse and thrash it. I never did that with my Buick GN and Impala SS. The biggest selling point to me is the ELS stereo. The rest is good icing on the cake.

[@craigster1234]

It would be so much more appealing with a sunroof. And I wouldn't mind a rear center armrest either.

[@Marley20]

Lol! Oh gosh he’s coming this way 😂

[@CrialCrial]

Goes out for a nice weekday-afternoon drive, witnesses chaos. Apparently yielding is optional to those drivers. And that F150, wtf???

[@ericmauricio498]

Due to the price would it be worth it to get a regular a spec vs a type s? Is it that noticeable?

[@mahfah7911]

I wonder if there are driving school which teaches Manual in Texas

[@Tigerex966]

Sunroof ventillalted seats power passenger seats rear vents and usbc in back suede headliner rear arm rest hand brake modds?

[@natthaphonnoble7946]

If they made a 2 door version I would definitely buy one and pls stay away from the stupid stubby back look like the new civic coupes

[@nieo777]

Lmao the round about wrapped it up.

[@RamandChevyOwner]

You can get the same metal shift knob as the type r as a option on the integra

[@BoKennedy-y2g]

@ 20:05 you said the integra has wild turbo lag? or the Elantra N? Didn't quite catch that.

[@danielj.rodriguez8621]

Overpriced. A bit more gets you into a TSX type S or a G80 sport. It should be in the mid 40’s as the four cylinder FWD manual it is.

[@chrisvigo4880]

Im glad i subscribed!

[@FlatsixSTM]

Enjoyed the video. Do you know if the rear seats have AC vents?

[@fxjaytrades]

i love these videos keep it up bro ❤

[@rusher38]

I'm surprised Honda didn't update their DCT for this car. It's supposed to be a more comfortable and luxurious Type R, right?

[@ShaiyanHossain]

Nah they should keep this manual only for people who actually give a shit about driving. The ilx dct wouldn't be able to handle the torque of this either. Also the main reasons this didn't get the 10at in other acura products are presumably it wouldn't fit, and they don't have a good trick diff for an automatic the way they do for the manuals

[@chhoyla]

This car is just a reskinned Type R. It offers virtually no additional features over the Type R. Reviewers have to mimic and stretch the few things they have changed like revolutionary 5 EXTRA horse power (oh my god!) and the “pops and bangs” exhaust that’s still worse sounding than the 34k Elantra N. Don’t forget the NVH worse than the 24k Mazda 3. It’s so luxury that the only luxury features is the ELS audio and heated seats (oh my god!) while your passenger uses manual seat control haha

[@ShaiyanHossain]

@@chhoyla i mean it has ps4s it was never going to be quiet tf lol. Also you left out how they retuned the dampers to make the car ride softer- which was one of the biggest complaints of the type R. I guarantee you nobody in the market for one of these is looking at the boy racer N or a auto tragic Mazda 3 either

[@chhoyla]

@@ShaiyanHossain LMAO! Why did they put “pops and bangs” when that’s the literal pinnacle of “boy racer”? This car is an identity crisis made from Acura’s cheapest attempts to add anything to this car. Firstly the dampers are the same ones they downgraded from the last gen Type R. It’s “street” but needs to weight reduce exactly like the Type R and has more power AND boy racer pops and bangs? It’s more “luxury” when it’s actually more barren than every car half its price? It’s simply a Type R reskinned with a massive markup for Honda fanboys to buy. The Elantra N, because none have exploded so far, is 10x a better deal and has so called “luxury features” like heated seats too.

[@Zangetsu1435]

@@ShaiyanHossainI was in the market for a Type S. Ended up going with the Elantra N because it’s not worth an extra $18k for a slightly better ELS audio, softer materials and a heads up display. Outside of the soft materials and a hatch, I much prefer the Elantra N. The seats, the cluster/display, exhaust note, and driving experience made it a much better value to me.

[@ArseneLupin786]

Stunning, great exterior walk through and camera quality

[@mtshark7]

Nice review man!

[@seb5945]

I personally would take TLX Type-S over this. Especially they both cost pretty much the same.

[@19hundoc47]

Gross. Overweight automatic trash

[@koraegi]

Damn I didnt think they'd be that similar Do I take the slightly cheaper route but only limit myself to 360 hp max or cough up the 6k so that I can get 400+ without losing traction and spinning out

[@alaya_shiki_1]

Non-ironically I've seen an Integra Type S on the road already. On this road that i live near there are people who have nice Porsches, McLarens, Lambos, and gaudy stuff like G Wagons and RSQ8s. So you know this Integra owner was also a rich person...even though I'm the target audience, I'm not the target demographic, they are.

[@elfishcoder7287]

Why would it be ironic to see the car?

[@MoeCamera]

60K and couldn’t give you hydraulic hood struts 😂

[@Jeffe4506]

Yeah the northern middle states of the US, you’ll see some interesting drivers out and about. When you’re out in the middle of the day of the day during the week, it’s the worst. All the “normal” people are at work haha

[@seb5945]

Product placement. 15:18

[@stephensfriends]

Color combo is 💯

[@FL5_OGryan405]

You and tedward lol. You sit in backwards and kick your feet before you get in. I have no idea how you do this lol. Maybe back seat but I’ve seen tedward do it on front seats and I have no idea how. I guess it just depends on the seats/car. I could never do that in my fl5 it just doesn’t work lol.

[@PhoEvr]

Definitely hit that Dodge Nitro! Probably minimal with a scratch, but definitely hate it. Really hate parking in public also, just have to drive the beater to go out.

[@mahfah7911]

Any compliments about appearance? Or do people think it may resemble with Blue Scion with that color?

[@VinceFung]

Always an interesting video LOL with the f150 vs. nitro, and then the random lug

[@tedjohnson64]

Very interesting to see a drive in normal (ie, hectic) road conditions. Tedward and TheTopher always seem to be able to drive on roads which are miraculously void of traffic. So unrealistic.

[@RatAvenue]

I just have a hard time figuring who this car is for. Competitors do what the integra does better and at a cheaper price too. Acura as of late has been pretty suspect and it feels like Honda doesn’t care as long as they keep selling CRVs.

[@grp5ltdot2024]

A wonderful machine that you can control yourself and feel it, what is missing in my opinion is more power and seventh gear :)

[@robbydragi]

Terrifying going into public? Relax man, just relax. Great car and good review.

[@ranss]

that lug stud is now part of nature 😌

[@BenBrrown]

Absolutely no way this should be above $40K

[@airblizzard]

First time I've seen the full tachometer with nothing else on the left.

[@cnn787-i9e]

The dealer in my city wanted a Market adjustment of $20,000 plus Desert protection for another $2000. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[@michaeld5198]

its good to know someone else has the same thoughts as me about parking lots and gas station receipts 😂

[@khyoon14]

crazy, how does it not have memory seats

[@michaelbryan7498]

What’s your thoughts on the the factory car audio?

[@cooldaddyslick6869]

That's why I don't park next to those extended cab pickup trucks.

[@Flysh24]

Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I don’t understand this obsession with tuned pops in cars now. My R does the same thing and it almost makes me roll my eyes knowing it’s manufactured

[@katiecannon8186]

I’m gonna eventually have the fake noises deleted on my GTI. I hate it

[@ddogg14]

I wish the base powertrain wasn't so anemic - a cheaper mid-grade powertrain option or a better base motor would move a lot more Integras

[@BrayZap]

I still get a kick out of the fact that Ford made the mustang ecoboost high performance pack years ago with 330 hp and 350 ft/lbs tq making more power than all these new cars STILL till this day while being substantially cheaper. Arguably much better interior and digital dash as well.

[@Jeffe4506]

Our driving tests our way to easy… it’s kinda like the gym… once you know what you’re doing, you can tell when people don’t… which is 88% of all people so yeah lol

[@jasonpope2705]

I think making videos like this is really interesting, how do you even get started and being able to do reviews on cars like this?

[@DOGO8991]

I, too, am very interested in learning how one becomes a KZbin car journalist. Dream job for real

[@chiefhere1968]

You can rent cars or approach dealerships with a request to borrow a car - offer them a plug in the video and they will likely accept a free marketing video. But have a few videos done already so you can show them some of your work. (no fancy equipment needed to start, u can use your phone)

[@07BSPtC]

What is that white light in the middle of the gauge cluster that sometimes flashes on it and the ctr?

[@keithjackson4985]

Nice car. These things are a little pricey. I still believe I'd pay it if one was available? I lived in that area for years! Always park in the back!

[@danimalkim]

Using a heat gun briefly can remove those cupholder marks

[@Ken888]

Hold on, I swear I saw this exact same Type S on the east coast (DC area). I recognize the license plate!

[@mybrucester858]

Audi RS 5 would be my first choice..Acura is no 2 & its a good one..luv the fast back hatches

[@SeanFit]

This car will be a collectable , people. This is what the price is partially factored for. 10 years dowm the road, you can bet itll retain its value (at least 30k for a 80k) yes... thats the reality

[@BrayZap]

The one thing thats amazing about this car is its looks and styling. Everything else is good but offers about the same performance of all other cars in its segment and nothing special. But man does this car look amazing

[@991carreras3]

It is nice looking but at just under 60k out the door for a rebodied civic is just crazy.

[@phillipp2442]

Make it with a DCT or 8spd auto and I'm sold. I don't like driving a manual in heavy Texas traffic.

[@NCLme]

That blue needs them gold rims yo, trust me 😊😊😊

[@rafaelmoreno2332]

Which one you chose between the integra and the Golf R

[@theholt2ic219]

He said in the video he prefers the integra over the golf R

[@Towert7]

Stick shift without a manual e-brake is stupid in my book. But then again, I know how to use one.

[@ScbyPwr]

Already trashed a tire. $400 later.... Might be worth going down to 18s to avoid 30 series tires. 32mpgs on the highway

[@viralticks8661]

You can buy a used m3 or even better a used m4 for this price, imma have to say I’m good

[@SonikDethmonkey]

I’d have the agree. As someone who grew up driving Hondas and Acuras in the 90’s, the whole point of these brands was VALUE. Regardless of how well they perform I just don’t see the value proposition with the CTR or ITS anymore. It seems to me that Hyundai is becoming what Honda used to be.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

@@SonikDethmonkey a USDM DC2 Type R would have been $40k+ adjusted for inflation in 2023 dollars lol. Type R/S are never value propositions. Btw dont waste your time with a used M car when you can get a Camaro or Chevy SS or C6-C7 with better perofmance engineering for this much ;)

[@viralticks8661]

@@ShaiyanHossain m3 gaps ss all day, and has turbos so way more potential. im sticking w german over anything nowadays

[@maisondav1d]

​@@viralticks8661also gaps in maintenance costs 😄

[@SonikDethmonkey]

@@ShaiyanHossain absolutely, if you don’t need full-size back seats the SS 1LE is a killer actual sports car.