A drivers view of the Port Melbourne railway line just before being converted to light rail in 1987
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@alanriley97543 жыл бұрын
Only the old timers (like me) would remember the overhead road bridge and ramp at Station Pier. Used it twice each week day in the early 1980s. We see the branch line that led off to the BP oil tanks then located at Beacon Road. Who then would expect poor old Port to become affluent and trendy 5 - 10 years later with hundreds of medium density houses on the ex rail land and later hi rise apartments? A historic video in many ways. Thanks.
@gregorygherkins18845 жыл бұрын
Wow, never thought I'd see something like this, as a kid growing up in the nineties I'd always wondered what this looked like...
@johnphillips5925 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, glad you enjoyed it
@tubester45674 жыл бұрын
I rode it heaps of times in the 70's and 80's as a kid to go watch Port Melbourne in the VFA. Good times. Even rode the red rattlers plenty of times as they were being phased out.
@darijoe13 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the nineties too. I was born in 1990 and live closest to Box Hill where the 109 tram terminates. I have a few times travelled the entire length of the route from or to Port Melbourne. Fascinating to see how it used to look as a heavy rail system! I have to say the stations look a lot more run down and tired in this video compared to what they look like now.
@hilarybadger123129 күн бұрын
It’s crazy to think that that whole viaduct between Yarra river and Clearendon st was completely demolished when they were turned into tram routes
@gregorygherkins188429 күн бұрын
@@hilarybadger1231 I was thinking about that when I was eating at the staff buffet at Crown Casino...as in I am literally where those tracks where, now enjoying my muffin
@lachlantrainvideos4 жыл бұрын
Damn, not only a drivers view of a closed line but a refurbished Harris at that! Wow!
@darrenmiles-morland80385 жыл бұрын
I never got the opportunity to ride this route on a train before it was all converted to light rail. I never got to travel over the Yarra River and through the bit where the casino got built. This is as close as I will get to doing any of this. And Melbourne looked so much better back in those days compared to the ugly concrete jungle that it is now. These memories are priceless.
@darijoe13 жыл бұрын
Yes a fair bit of Melbourne's appearance has changed for the worse, but plenty has also changed for the better. For instance, the stations look a lot more run down and tired in this video compared to what they generally look like now. I am glad there has been a big effort to clean them up in the years since.
@FootyOnTheRadio5 жыл бұрын
as a blind guy, i love these old train sounds. love full trips. hitachis had my most loved sounds but the taits witch were before my time had great sounds, i have recordings of them.
@some.muppet5 жыл бұрын
i would be really interested in hearing these recordings!
@io44393 жыл бұрын
@@some.muppet yt search for tait sounds
@JP-ib2iz2 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the mid 1970 to early 80', as a trainee engineman then driver, this line was still operational with goods trains & the local shunting yard pilot (Y-class loco), dreadful 3 Am start @ dynon depot, ran goods trains from Melbourne yard to Jolimont yard then changed over with the loco back onto the opposite end of the train and onto Port Melbourne yard, those level crossings if I remember correctly, sill had hand gates with the gate man to swing them! Some ships were still been unloaded/uploaded at the dock and some times we would go all the way onto the end of the pier along the rail tracks with the loco, to place or remove goods wagons next to the ships. Also recall the track that swung around from the top end of the yard and led to the BP oil terminal and mainly 4 wheel tankers we would bring out of that oil storage terminal. The large number of empty 4 wheel GY trucks in storage waiting for the next wheat season Also remember the old VR electric L-Class Locos, with goods straight through to Gippsland, i think some of it was brown coal briquettes However, most of the yard and freight was beginning to wind down, I also recall the numeous large old customs goods sheds and the large rolls of paper that were unloaded for storage in those old sheds for the Herald & Age news paper companies, and wool bails, including the Kraft Cheese factory near the station and factories and a lot of passengers on the trains at North Port going to work, then from around 1982, , it started declining and the obvious closure of the goods yard & severe decline in patronage to & from Flinders Street up till Premiere John Cain, and his Transport Minister ('Snappy' Tom Roper closed the line down for light rail. Never been there since, thanks fort the live video from the cab, lost count of the numerous runs to Port Melbourne and St Kilda from Flinders Street Station Thanks for the memories
@TheCartoonHead4 жыл бұрын
That train looks like a Cyberman 😀 Awesome video, miss that sleepy quiet Melbourne.
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
Thank you , glad it brought back a few memories.
@adrianandinga72444 жыл бұрын
I miss old Port and loved seeing this footage. I was really surprised to see my younger self standing at Graham st station, although the film is a little grainy I can recognise my mop of black hair and my then favourite top and jeans. Thanks for uploading!
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
Wow , your on KZbin that's great and thanks for the comment.
@lasermodeler5 жыл бұрын
A great piece of history. Only 4km? It seemed like a million miles when I was a kid. I did the trip hundreds of times ans still remember a Migrant Train locomotive derailing on the Pier. It was amazing watching four guys get her back on the rails again. The light rail does a wonderful job, but every time I went to Port Melbourne it was on "Dog Boxes" with swinging doors. Well done. Loved it!
@vsvnrg32635 жыл бұрын
thoroughly enjoyed this. the good old days. dad used to mainly drive this and the st kilda line. he used to let us ride in the cab with him on the first train on sundays as an enticement to convince us to go to church. however we used to wag going to church.
@johnphillips5925 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that , and a great story .
@davidpreston47152 жыл бұрын
Well done . I drove trains to Port Melb. a thousand times …. St Kilda as well. We did many pilot jobs there too… plus we ran the daily direct Warragul goods with L class electrics ! Pity the locals objected to the extension proposal from Graham to Garden City. The line to there and StKilda would still be there today if they had approved the project.
@seiner0ne4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload. Ive riden the tram down to st kilda many times but ive always wondered what the st kilda and port melb lines use to look like when they were train lines.
@tjmfs19813 жыл бұрын
So awesome. Thankyou. I drive the 109 tram and always wondered what it looked like. Hoping you might have footage of what is now the 96 too
@johnphillips5923 жыл бұрын
Yes there is one on the St Kilda line , here is the link studio.kzbin.infolxZXKTDIkfE/edit
@JamesJimmaHarding2 жыл бұрын
As per usual it's great to see the old crossing signals and teardrop bells. What we got after the conversion to light rail was interesting - normal traffic lights at the tram crossings, with carpark-style boom gates and Barker Technics E-bells (which are really not in good shape now sadly)
@mvnorsel63544 жыл бұрын
I worked in the railways 84-88. One Saturday night was working at Sth Melbourne station. I received a complaint that a couple were making love on the down side. What to do ,I did nothing. I have fond memories of my time in the railways.
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
Good story and good decision .
@mickcarson85045 жыл бұрын
You brought back many old, lost memories my friend. Thanks for sharing. This was my childhood era. What year is the film taken?
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
The video was made in 1987
@canismajoris7385 жыл бұрын
I remember those in the days ,But transport back then was great! Now it's the the tram! As i used to buy a Passmaster ticket and ride the rails all day back in the late 70's -80's?
@ReubenSilveira65 жыл бұрын
After the bridge at Graham it's unrecognisable. I've only ever known the current layout so it's great to see how it used to look. Sad to see it change as a Railfan but certainly an improvement for the locals.
@74_pelicans9 ай бұрын
AY THE BIG MAN IS HERE. Vlog of Port Melb line when?
@ReubenSilveira69 ай бұрын
@@74_pelicans Hahaha good idea. Might have to put that on the to-do list!
@andrewgoldbergs44744 жыл бұрын
Montague had been "shortened" due to safety concerns around 1983-1984 when the Taits were 3 car runs on this and St.Kilda lines..some runs were still 6 cars long in peak hour though nearing their end.
@woobyvr96544 жыл бұрын
the difference is absolutely stunning, i walked down this entire route to make a video on it and theres very little resemblance
@jimpikoulis67265 жыл бұрын
I never thought I would see a video of the Port Melbourne line prior to conversion..... thanks for the upload.....
@leonkernan5 жыл бұрын
00:52 EM100 in orange. Today known as IEV100
@Gaminggunzeller4 жыл бұрын
At least it's still in service with Metro
@ambersworldandmore8708 Жыл бұрын
I miss the Port Melbourne Train Line and all the Station's Montague,North Port,Graham Street, Port Melbourne & Station Pier
@johnphillips592 Жыл бұрын
Yes , agreed it was a lovely ride to Port Melbourne
@zackhogan38783 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for sharing, I'm too young to remember these lines. I was 4 when they closed.
@jessesands40994 жыл бұрын
I remember when the Clarendon Street Bridge was demolished in 1990! Very sad!😞
@125sloth4 жыл бұрын
And the tram/light rail is even slower than the train was. To be fair, the tram does not go into Flinders Street station, but even if it did, it is not as quick as even the old swing door trains that used to run to Port Melbourne back in the day.
@iceblock1805 жыл бұрын
Thank You for this upload, like other commenters I would never have thought I'd see this perspective again. One of the few areas of Melbourne that has actually improved over time, I'd forgotten what a mess it had been down by station pier. Now days there'd be no change out a million dollars or more for a little townhouse in that exact same area.
@johnphillips5925 жыл бұрын
Yes you're right , there have been many changes in that area and as you have said, all for the best and thank you for your comments .
@warrenscarlett93024 жыл бұрын
That brings back memories thankyou mate
@mebeasensei4 жыл бұрын
Just before Port Melbourne got yuppified. A house might have sold there pretty affordablly then .
@paulliddy52364 жыл бұрын
I’m so grateful to you John for uploading this video. I travelled on this line many times as a kid back in the 70’s. Standing in the open doorway of the old Red Rattlers as we crossed Sandridge Bridge. I was hanging out for the end of the line as I fondly remember the flyover at Port Melbourne with the ramp down to Station Pier. My dad would park down the side of the ramp in the shade as we spent many a day at the beach in Summer playing under Station Pier. The area was very industrial back then..you wouldn’t recognise it now. Love the sound of the old train horns..brings all those memories flooding back. Thankyou!!
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul for your comments , so glad it brought back happy memories for you, makes it all worth while.
@vsvnrg32633 жыл бұрын
paul liddy, we also played under as well as on the pier. we used to have barbies on the beach in the big hollow beneath it using dried drift wood cooking spuds in tin foil. some people i knew found a body under there back in the 70's.
@trailwayt9H3372 жыл бұрын
Very beautifull catching 👍👍💚👍👍
@chygwelanmeneth5 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks John. Nostalgia there! I used to catch the Port train many dozens of times in the late '60s when working on Fisherman's Bend (Dog Box then of course). Two things always struck me - 1. For a line that was dead straight on the earliest maps - apart from the curve into Sandridge station and the curve off the Yarra bridge, its amazing how many curves it had by the end, and, 2. Why did they not have a station near the St Kilda/Port diverge? Flinders St to Montague was half the length of the line but with no intermediate stations; then in the second half of the line, Montague to Port there were two intermediate stations. With all those factories around at the diverge point there be plenty of clientele every morning and afternoon. - Phil
@johnphillips5925 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree there was a big gap before Montague station , no doubt there was a reason , glad it brought back so many memories , thanks for the comment.
@alexisprotopopo5 жыл бұрын
i remember 1979 i was running away from home i hang around the train all the times and the driver ask me do you want you to drive the train i say yes and i drive the train about 10 times and i love it one of the driver very nice to me and the last one i rove the train was in epping and back and never heard from him again
@Taitset5 жыл бұрын
Looks like the platforms at Montague had been fenced to only be four cars long.
@KotaruKun912 жыл бұрын
Great footage mate =]
@adityashrivastava77935 ай бұрын
Although it is nostalgic to watch, port melbourne looked terrible back then.
@loagzie383 жыл бұрын
The footage i want to see is of the springvale cemetery line
@jessesands40994 жыл бұрын
I worked in Port Melbourne for 14 years from 1989-2003! Always wondered what the Montague North Port Graham and Port Melbourne Railway Stations looked like! I've got a few Railway DVDS which show little bits of the Port Melbourne line but not all the Stations!🙂🚇🚃🚃🚃🛤️
@mickman35825 жыл бұрын
You can see the newly constructed elevated part of the Westgate freeway.
@kingey714 жыл бұрын
Look at all those lines. Almost all gone now and with expanding Melbourne we are worse off for it :(
@dasistmick42736 ай бұрын
Lovely, but I can totally understand why it was de trained and made into a tram.
@haydenandrewsmith9384 Жыл бұрын
Really wish the saint killda railway station was operational aging
@matthewmassarotti25964 жыл бұрын
Boy it looks empty without Southbank depo lol
@Techno-Universal29 күн бұрын
There’s even quite a few other things that don’t exist today such as the Port Melbourne road bridge which was replaced with a roundabout during the light rail conversion or in the early 2000s! :)
@johnphillips59229 күн бұрын
Agreed , there have been a lot of changes since then .
@AnkosLoveSlave Жыл бұрын
Please please please if you have the Port to Flinders run would you mind upoading that one? I use to ride that train every day going from Graham into flinders then out to Albert Park for school back in the early 80's
@johnphillips592 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but for some unknown reason I only filmed one way
@KennyTC634 жыл бұрын
Some nostalgia here that's for sure. Used to get on the Port train to go down and watch the Burragh play at North Port Oval back in the day. I Remember the old black bridge that crossed the Yarra carrying both the Port and St Kilda lines near the old Allen's lolly factory there too - where the Crown complex is nowadays. Even back then it was a dirty and grungy part of town and I'm glad it's been cleaned up significantly to what it once was. I cycle the path these days from Clarendon St down to Port. It's a great ride!
@seiner0ne4 жыл бұрын
I was born in 91 so never got to see how different Melbourne was back in the day. I do remember the late 90s early 2000 and that signal box got burnt down.
@KennyTC634 жыл бұрын
@@seiner0ne As I said above, it's interesting and yeah even nice I suppose to see the videos and reminisce, but you really haven't missed anything by being born later. Melbourne, whilst now the world's most livable city, or at least one of them, was a far cry from that status back in the 80's and earlier. Areas like the Port railway line, what is now Southbank, St Kilda and Docklands were a blight on the city really. They were dirty and ugly. Not so nowadays - and much, much more for the better too imo.
@seiner0ne4 жыл бұрын
@@KennyTC63 they certainly look different now but i kind of like the industrial look. Its also amazing how an area can change in 20 or 30 years. I use to live in Macleod where the old mental asylum is. The whole place use to be a ghost town until the developers knocked down the buildings, now theres million doller houses
@MRHenHen9 ай бұрын
My grandfather used to work in the Allen’s factory with the gigantic neon sign. He started working there in 1932 he was in the RAAF during WW2 stationed in PNG. After returning home he continued to work at the factory until he retired
@TheAxelay4 жыл бұрын
It's SO different back in pre-1987!!! This is the 1st time I've seen the old Port Melbourne line via it's throwback trainage!! So gentrified now and leveled up via the current tramline!! And Port Melbourne with a Y-class and that bridge near the end of the station!!!! OMG!!! Priceless seeing this, it's everything I had hoped it was back then?!...Surpassing all expectations.
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mathew , glad you enjoyed it
@RCT19638 ай бұрын
Funny how your mind plays tricks ton you. I always thought it became a single line AFTER Graham Station
@johnphillips5928 ай бұрын
Agreed , I often think the same way
@clawz90Ай бұрын
Great video, the double bells from the guards was a real throw back as well! A few years before I drove trains!
@johnphillips592Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment , glad it brought back memories .
@giddy13374 жыл бұрын
I have a question: when did IEV get owned by V/Line?
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
As far as I know when V/Line was formed
@giddy13374 жыл бұрын
John Phillips ok, thanks.
@guild933 жыл бұрын
Great but would be nice to see this in original 4:3 aspect to retain detail and quality
@aussiejeff83915 жыл бұрын
This was a flash back, worked Port melbourne one shift. Then hearing the gaurds bell bleeding hell they were the days.
@Whatevs84855 жыл бұрын
Joffa Dee - was a soda of a job the old Port Melb Pilot, the sound of that bell reminds why I wasn’t a fan of the sparks on my first tour there.
@ThePaulv123 жыл бұрын
Not one for viewing the past with rose coloured glasses I must say I miss Centenary Bridge. However the gunzel in me is less charitable - I'm aggrieved the rail infrastructure at Port Melbourne is gone and the whole area was turned into a 'resort' for cashed up retirees. Yuk! It was far nicer before - at least it wasn't pretentious.
@darylatkinson8802 Жыл бұрын
Nearly everything even the buidling are all gone, barely recognise it today
@johnphillips592 Жыл бұрын
Yes , certainly a lot of changes
@MrSOOTY772 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful to see, I used to go fishing at Station Pier if the fifties and sixties with my father and the terminus brings back happy memories for me and also used the train occasionally in 1966 to get to work. The area didn't change all that much up till 1987 and then of course everything happened.
@jimcrawford5039 Жыл бұрын
I first rode on it in 1962.
@belhudson712 жыл бұрын
Great to see. As kids (14 year olds) we would come into the city then get the train down to Port Melbourne then spend all day at Station and prince's pier vising ships. Those days was red rattler train that ran there (late 60's) Thanks for posting.
@jessesands40994 жыл бұрын
I did ride on this Railway Line in 1986! Got off at Graham Railway Station from memory! 🙂🚇🚃🚃🚃🛤️🏖️
@762Media425 жыл бұрын
Great video John
@johnphillips5925 жыл бұрын
Thanks , that area has changed over the years
@redhead31993 ай бұрын
The silver ghost and the bell.
@johnphillips5923 ай бұрын
Yes , both long gone now
@kimjunjustin48345 жыл бұрын
Port mebl
@MrThuggery4 жыл бұрын
Been there drove that.....quite a few times before the closed it off to trains.
@jamieb81123 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing. 👍
@gayemayles56133 жыл бұрын
We ran goods down the from Melbourne yard
@Jason-ke9ms4 жыл бұрын
That was awesome thank you very Much 😁🍺
@vsvnrg32634 жыл бұрын
i've got a story for your viewers. if anyone else can remember. someone found a blue plastic container (about a 15 litre size) full of money under the down side montague station about 30 years ago. i'm sure it was after i moved to perth in 1987. as kids we used to play under the platform and wonder where the infamous "montague gang" hid their shanghais( a.k.a. slingshots). blue plastic containers hadn't been invented then. anyway, they handed the container plus contents in to the cops. and then returned to look for more. and they found, i think, 3 more and handed them in as well. anyway, it got on the news and everyone was turning under the platform upside down looking for more. there were no more reports of any more being found. there were no genuine claims for the blue jars full of cash so the finders got to keep! i have not been able to find anything about this on the internet. can anyone else remember this?
@biglethal4 жыл бұрын
this was at Balaclava station 1996. close to $450,000 In 1996 two men found $200,000 in a drum buried beneath one of the platforms at Balaclava Station. The local men handed the drum into the police and the find was reported in the media. Probably spurred by the report, another eager digger, in the same week, found a second drum under the platform containing a similar amount of money, which was also turned into the police. For whatever reason, and we can only imagine, no one claimed the money and both ‘finders’ were granted ownership of their loot.
@vsvnrg32634 жыл бұрын
@@biglethal ,thanks for the reply. i'll check it up. i was bloody sure it was montague. were they blue jars/drums as you remember it?
@biglethal4 жыл бұрын
@@vsvnrg3263 yes from memory, blue plastic drums
@vsvnrg32634 жыл бұрын
@@biglethal , i can't find anything on-line about it. are you really, really sure it was balaclava station? i'm sure the footage showed montague which i knew very well as a kid. it looks like you can or could get under balaclava station.
@biglethal4 жыл бұрын
@@vsvnrg3263 short write up from the age newspaper In May 1996 St Kilda detectives sought legal advice before handing over nearly $450,000 to two businessmen who found it buried in plastic drums near the Balaclava Railway Station. They had already discounted up to six claims on the money, including one believed to have come from Queensland. The first of the drums, containing about $200,000, was unearthed on January 23 of that year. The second was found a week later. After examining the bills for fingerprints, police destroyed most of the money, in new $100 and $50 notes, because the Reserve Bank had agreed to accept and replace the damaged cash.
@vsvnrg32634 жыл бұрын
you've uploaded the st kilda line in both directions. have you got the port line going up?
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
No, sorry , we had a pretty grumpy driver on the way to Port Melbourne and didn't want to go back with him then didn't do a return trip.
@vsvnrg32634 жыл бұрын
@@johnphillips592 ,ha ha ha. well it wasn't my old man. he'd retired 5 years earlier. he used to make life hard for crawfords when they were filming division 4, homicide or other things in our street. they'd ask him to park his car elsewhere because they'd have to reshoot scenes for continuity and he'd tell them "too bad, bugger off".
@mikeporta19094 жыл бұрын
I take it those people getting on at Graham were returning to the city?Only other scenario would be a trip to PM to do the shopping.
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike for your comment , you could be right .
@thomasmatthewharris19804 жыл бұрын
Will you doing a Flinders Street service from Port Melbourne?
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
Sorry , I only took that line in one direction
@ianwoff70004 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, as I never travelled this line - great to see!
@stapes655 жыл бұрын
That is where the route 109 goes.
@michaelwyres5 жыл бұрын
Yes, the line became tram route 109...
@MrBeheard5 жыл бұрын
Great video John.
@Magpie_Mark925 жыл бұрын
It should never have being converted to light rail
@fauzirahman32855 жыл бұрын
It was a short line. They should have connected it directly to the Sandringham line at Flinders Street.
@thomasmatthewharris19804 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mikeporta19094 жыл бұрын
@@fauzirahman3285 yes,or taken it down to Fishermans Bend.
@vsvnrg32634 жыл бұрын
maggie 92, agreed, but it could be argued that it and the st kilda line finally got built to the gauge that the original owners of the lines wanted it to be built as. both lines should have remained connected to flinders street but there may have been a big problem with the foundations of the sandridge bridge.
@vsvnrg32634 жыл бұрын
@@fauzirahman3285 ,yep.
@deidregiblin61124 жыл бұрын
Wonderful - Slow rail - this is meditation at its best. Can't wait to share with my Port Melbourne neighbours! Great to see the change in the parklands along the rail ... sad too ... the last two old elm trees at North Port (city side on Evans Street) are to be chopped down this week! Thanks so so much John.
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
Thank you , glad you enjoyed it, and yes , please pass on the link to your friends
@borisjevic63384 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about the elms. Why are they cutting them down? Maybe take some photo's and post a video on KZbin before they are gone for good. :-( oh and post a link here ;-)
@vsvnrg32634 жыл бұрын
the last 2 elm trees being chopped down? i'm thrilled! i'll check it out on google street. i don't share your sympathies for them. or the plane trees. they are great trees if you like the alien birds like sparrows, blackbirds, mynas and starlings. these trees and these birds are what dominated port when i grew up there. what do these trees offer the native birds? nothing. and no shelter in a winter rainstorm either. tim flannery promised to shout the bar in a south australian bar if anyone could present him with a plane tree leaf which showed that something had taken a bite out of it. he considers them as useful as concrete. i jump for joy when i hear about alien species being removed for an underground railway station at domain road. when i view videos of this and the st kilda line these days i see native trees and native birds that i never saw when i was a kid.
@jessesands40994 жыл бұрын
Wonder when this film was taken?🤔
@borisjevic63384 жыл бұрын
it mentions 1987. :-)
@Gaminggunzeller5 жыл бұрын
Thats cool.
@aussiejeff83914 жыл бұрын
Did you drive these? Miss the guards bell. Worked Port a couple of times..great shifts
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
No , I was the railways Chief Photographer for 25 years .
@vsvnrg32634 жыл бұрын
@@johnphillips592 , i noticed what you wrote here and moved on............WHAT? RAILWAYS CHIEF PHOTOGRAPHER FOR 25 YEARS? from when to when? did it include some of the steam era? do you have any pikkies of the famous s class steam locos? omg, what a sweet job.
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
@@vsvnrg3263 I started in the railways in 1965 an joined the photographic section in 1970 worked there until it was all shut down in 2003
@vsvnrg32634 жыл бұрын
@@johnphillips592 ,i've just started rereading copies of old stack talk mags i bought at a newport workshops open day a while ago and i noticed your name in the ad for the public records office.
@johnphillips5924 жыл бұрын
@@vsvnrg3263 yes I worked there for a while after they shut down the photographic section , that's where the negatives went.