Subaru vs Evo! - Grand Tour Track Battle

[@Drivetribe]

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[@quinnjohn1]

My head says Evo, heart says Scooby, wallet says 1.3 cdti corsa!

[@davidcassidy1489]

ALWAYS LOVED THE EVO OVER SUBARU FROM DAY ONE I LOVE THE SHAPE OF IT BRILLIANT CAR GLAD HAMMOND PLULLED THE TRIGGER AND INVESTED IN ONE ITS A PROPER CLASSIC CAR

[@williamhavers7460]

It’s the evo for me

[@almorgan68]

Why didn't ben wear his stig outfit

[@MrBawkbGawks]

no ones driving that evo home, at least you got a reason to put a banging clutch in it!

[@eurasianlynx]

I don't care who wins, I just want to see both to live on and be seen on the roads.

[@hpod3sx]

No wonder she was scared to put her foot down on accelerator pedal - she's got accident-prone Richard Hammond genes. She is smart girl.

[@greengamerguy623]

lol

[@MrMolova]

Wife material smart!

[@speedglass4841]

cars are art

[@Low5er]

How could you hate either one? I’m a Subaru guy, and always have been, but I can still appreciate how amazing evos are!

[@youngxlos]

Same here! My best friend had an Evo X and it was fun to work on it and it was fast

[@fog99uk]

Now that's how you squeeze in plugging video sponsors. If I hadn't just watched the interview, I wouldn't have noticed.

[@AlexKall]

I have to say that Mike, Ben and Izzy are a great trio!

[@DevinJHiggins]

02:06 - Anyone who watched Top Gear back in the day remembers this EXACT same exchange between her dad and a young Christian Horner driving around the streets of Monaco in a Fiat Aberth NOT A HATCHBACK. Some things just don't change. 😂

[@desperado73397]

since the seventh century evo has always been better by an inch, but most people prefer subaru and so do I, excellent cars that are 20 years old, still attract attention and everyone still loves them.

[@sarahlangwith7620]

Loving Izzy’s reactions to her laps with Ben

[@EA0_00]

The subaru had her screaming like she was in a roller coaster ,the evo had her looking like she was on a relaxing boat ride.

[@FenrirYT13]

I would still rather have Martin over the Evo

[@johnnypolex]

A nice gentleman on a beginner autox day lended me his 600hp Evo 6/7. In a sense it was point and shoot but it also was effortless and felt like it was dancing. I also had a chance to take my old friend’s STI on another autocross and it was also super nice to drive and of course it rocketed out of corners. Both are awesome to drive. I still prefer the understated Evo look and interior design but in the end i would just go for the one that is more reliable on track

[@phant0]

The video is funnier if you imagine Izzy being Richard Hammond with a blonde wig on.

[@worstofficerdennis]

Someone give Izzy her own show with a Top Gear budget!

[@pistonfury]

I Agree with you Mike!!!!!!! Evo is King!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@guimarchetti77]

That powersliding subaru shot, pure awesomeness!

[@ceesdewidt887]

Great video, thnx and keep ‘em coming please 👍

[@DragonSpawn4Twenty]

Mitzy Evos have always looked better than Scoobys and everyone has a Scooby..

[@DavidChong]

I generally prefer the look of the subarus aside from the evo x with the blacked out bit in the front

[@pjccwest]

Nice. Should there be a rematch? Did the mechanical damage slow the Evo?

[@stevemcintyre4398]

Evo any day, lest cost for head gasket replacement plus a better handing chassis.

[@kml7121]

A subie being more reliable than a evo proves Martin wins😂

[@samcarpenter_]

Dude why is Mike so good at driver coaching 😅

[@josefduttyreh2409]

Ben rocking 🇰🇪 wrist band🫶

[@InternetEntity]

Early 2000's gour-wheel-drive JDM on a track? Evo or Impreza? I'll take an R34, thanks. I know, Skyline fanboy saying the same thing over and over. Less of a broken record, more of a scratched CD.

[@nikomoin7604]

Evos would bash r34s tho

[@iminyourwallsss]

There’s always one. Irrelevant. Based on value sure but that’s about it.

[@yohmsaw]

How do I take a ride-along lap with Ben? I would rather do that than drive.

[@chrisb15679]

I'd pick the evo, but the sti has a better interior

[@Arcturuseyes]

The Evo needs a drift stick

[@djmichie]

Evos handling making up for being 100bhp down on power. And it's not even an MR.

[@BlueMica63]

it was modified to be a better handling car then that particular subaru, the fact it was half a second faster isn't impressive at all.

[@Alex-Walker]

😂😂 Ben yanking on the handbrake mid corner. Absolutely no fear

[@utbdoug]

Ben: "Handbrakes a bit milky, init" Mike: "Don't you dare" Ben: *laughs in already did*

[@OldWhitebelly]

He must have at least a little confidence in Mike's driving ability, banter aside.

[@GregoryGreg87]

​@OldWhitebelly he has to. Riding passenger on track and just casually pulling your buddies e-brake? I might know 1 person I'd trust to do that to.

[@OldWhitebelly]

@@GregoryGreg87 That's one more than I know ;)

[@BagheeraRaceGamer]

"Wha-... what's going on here? Why am I on the passanger seat?" 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tommyblackwell3760]

"I'm showing you the track." 😂😂😂

[@webbles]

Part way through while watching Ben drive, I pictured the white helmet and how many times I've seen him before. Finally seeing that intensity we couldn't see for so many memorable laps made me happy and sad about what a missed opportunity he was outside of the costume. What a legend.

[@ravdhani]

Evo rules!

[@Jordan-ql8pv]

I agree. Ben is an amzing driver, and being able to see his body language and demeanor as he went round is pretty cool.

[@crisantogarcia6646]

I like this, getting a non “enthusiast” take on cars is fun to watch. Probably the most accurate take.

[@pur3d3m0n67]

NGL this was the one thing i loved about Top Gear was watching Stig do a Burning Lap with their cars its just so much fun to watch

[@MrSatnavatron]

I was a huge evo fan growing up but I can appreciate both now

[@Metalution]

You are just being polite. EVO is a far superior vehicle :)

[@kevinwoolford123]

I was always an evo guy but got a subaru after a test drive. The sound is beautiful

[@MikeKnights]

Never give Richard his Subaru back! 🤣

[@Umar-gw6fy]

Anybody whos driven both will tell you as a daily the subaru is better but for a b road basher the evo is better

[@sethjansson5652]

Blown head gasket says what?

[@Spud1-q6t]

​@@sethjansson5652😂 brilliant

[@RatchetMonkey]

100% agree.

[@mixswist]

As a Subaru fan, Yellow EVO VIII is an exception.

[@Umar-gw6fy]

@@sethjansson5652yet the evo was the one that broke down👀

[@senseofthecommonman]

I went from an M3 to my Evo and it was interesting to note the difference in reaction from other road users. There were times you could almost feel the hate of some people towards a BMW driver and yet in the Evo I would receive waves or nods from other drivers and people would often comment favourably at the petrol station or car parks. Never seemed to generate any resentment.

[@ejejjeje]

That's bc the EVO has working turn signals.

[@omruuu21]

@@ejejjeje lol

[@RashaKahn]

I have yet to hear someone comment "Look at that cool guy in that BMW!" that wasn't a BMW diver themselves...

[@Craigito]

Soon as he said the subaru is "more reliable and easier to work on" I almost spat my drink

[@Charkunt.d5]

Same! 😅 Ever tried to change a set of plugs on an old ej20! Unless you have the right tools! It’s a nightmare! 😅

[@popemobile12]

​@@Charkunt.d5Remove the battery, air intake, washer reservoir, done. Doesn't take long. Try doing spark plugs on a 3.6l Dodge Journey, now THAT is a nightmare.

[@senseicorey9979]

I'm an absolute idiot and it took me less than an hour to do plugs on my ej20.

[@chicky5540]

Came here to say that. But I guess more people caught it. 😅

[@ggbear1043]

I was just about to write the same, so we know he hasnt owned any of them. I have owned both, only problem on EVO was the ayc rear diff

[@OldWhitebelly]

Hamsterette's transformation from her first lap to her last was impressive. And enjoying the passenger seat while Ben drive...VERY impressive.

[@mitul2567]

The way Ben drove that Subaru was shivering

[@GamerGabbar]

Nice to see the baby Hamster going the way of the Hamster

[@mrb2917]

meh

[@BeardedFrog]

She hasn't crashed yet, so not really.

[@GregoryGreg87]

😂 give her time. You can see she enjoys the car world more and more with every video she's in.

[@eddiehp6108]

“The subaru is more reliable and easier to work on ” vs an evo is utter madness

[@jaroslavmrazek5752]

I thought the same thing, crazy.

[@jackgtir1]

why ? easy to work on 100 percent goes to subaru .reliable is debatable ... just because the evo can get more power out the box doesn't make it more reliable ...

[@jaroslavmrazek5752]

@@jackgtir1 how about we try changing spark plugs, or a timing belt, or remove the turbo?

[@mundy5008]

Reliable and subaru don't go together

[@jackgtir1]

@jaroslavmrazek5752 can literly do any one inside an hour ... ever done a clutch in an evo ? Lol

[@JustKicks786]

Watching Ben around the track is AWESOME

[@DevinJHiggins]

There was a moment in Martin with Ben and Mike where Ben gave him a disapproving look as they were setting off that was so Stig-gish I could almost see the white helmet on his head. As for what happened to the Evo's flywheel, I believe James McAvoy said it best on TG, 'It was cut to shribbins!'

[@StormdriverOne]

I thought the same thing. Ben might as well have had the suit on. I could see him so perfectly.

[@H4iryP0ppins]

Seeing Ben buzzing was awesome. Think it’s the first time I’ve seen him smile? 🤣

[@LRKIRBY]

I love how Izzy is just slating the intake on the evo while Mike is loving it 😂😂

[@CrypticByNature]

Mitsubishi needs to bring back the EVO😢🙏🏼

[@MrBipito]

Already in the works. 🤫😉

[@RichterBeyond]

Mitsubishi Motors doesn't really exist as they once were. They are Nissan in all but name now. It's a shame if you ask me, loved the old Mitsubishi

[@CrypticByNature]

@@RichterBeyondsame, fun car

[@alastairhatt360]

Mitsubishi and Nissan are part of Renault and all three use same architecture now for all models. EVO will never come back as too costly for a single model and the WRX is pretty much at the end of its life cycle. RIP both of you.

They decided to retire to give Subaru a chance to catch up

[@maxtorque2277]

For their entire product lifetimes, these cars were basically just seperated by their engine position and layout. The Scoob was always fighting physics with it's high mounted long engine slung out front, whereas the Evo with it's short transverse low engine was an inherently much better balanced car front to rear. Having worked at prodrive for 6 years during the height of these cars reign, both on the WRC and road car projects, with the scoob you could choose between a nice handling balance OR max LatG, whereas with the Evo you could find a setup to do both. Basically the Scoob always understeered if you set it up for max LatG, which drivers hated, and this really was why it was never a very successful tarmac car, as opposited to on loose surfaces with more low gear, low friction accels where the mass distribution worked more in it's favour. Over the years and models, FHI threw more and more tech at the scoob chassis to try to help things out, but at the end of the day, you just can't beat the laws of physics. Evo for me, every time....... ;-)

[@PPC4]

Can you clarify what you mean by the Subarus engine mounted high, slung out front? Compared to the evos very much upright transverse four. Nearly the entire Subaru brochures from yesteryear banged on about the 'low slung' flat four.

[@898orion]

@@PPC4it’s mounted low correct, but the engine is hanging out in the front of the car to make room for the gearbox. The front wheel axles go directly in the gearbox hence the engine is pushed out to the front of the car. So you have the engine connected to the gearbox and the front wheel axels going into the gearbox. Hence the engine needs to hang out front. The Evo has to do a 90degree turn via the gearboxes to get the power to the front wheels.

[@maxtorque2277]

@@PPC4 Ah the power of "marketing" What FHIs marketing department did was actually really quite clever, and the managed to hoodwink a lot of people, including most of the motoring press of the time. FHI claimed "our flat four engine has a low center of gravity" which is in fact absolutely true. A bare engines CofG is measured in terms of it's height above the crankshaft centre line, so yes, a flat engine indeed has the lowest possible CofG architecutrally speaking. What FHI failed to mention, was that the thing that actually matters is the INSTALLED CofG, and here, things go south quickly. Firstly, you need to leave space under the engine for exhaust manifolds and the sump, so the crank has to be high relative to the lowest installed point of the engine. Secondly, you have to couple the engine to a transmission and have a clutch, which in a road car that needs a practical/affordable clutch (ie no 80mm carbon-carbon race clutches here) means the engine again gets lifted up. So, when you measure the engine CofG when installed in a Scoob, it actually ends up higher than that of a well installed transverse inline engine ie like the Evo has. Then because of the 4wd system that FHI was wedded too (See: "marketing" again) that engine has to be infront of the front axle lateral centre line, so now not only is your engine high, it's well forwards too. So, your vehicle is now absolutely laid out in a physically non-optimum fashion, and nothing can change that. You always have a high CofG, a large polar moment of intertia and a forwards mass distribution. You can mess with chassis settings to try to dynamically move that mass around, but ultimately, everything you do to achieve that reduces max lateral acceleration, ie cornering speed.......

[@andy37372]

​@maxtorque2277 Sweet point, I never thought about how far forward the flat 4 sits, make so much sense now when I drove a new wrx couldn't work out why it felt like it understeered far worse than a awd should, heck the fwd Renault's we had had less understeer than the new wrx

The amount of people who don’t know this is mental. You can never get rid of understeer in a subaru unless you run active diffs like the wrc cars did. Terrible weight distribution and the heavy engine mounted miles upfront just like an Audi. Internet talk always said they just need a stiffer rear anti roll bar, lol they need more than that. The engine indeed is mounted high up aswell, sheep just consume all the marketing BS. Even a ford cosworth from the 80’s/90’s has a better weight distribution and gearbox design.

[@StriclySegaEurope]

Ben saying SEGA Rally made me happy!

[@LordJobby]

Absolutely loved seeing these two battle against one another! Get Izzy on more presenting videos for this channel! It's a breath of fresh air seeing and listening to someone who isn't completely TV and media trained.

[@smartgorilla]

Nah not for me. Soo basic

[@LordJobby]

@smartgorilla from what I see in the comments, majority seems to approve of a non car enthusiast. Obviously, the top gear three will never be beaten. However, I think the original review of Martin she done was class.

[@johnsonsl944]

Hopefully the evo gets fixed and the next video is James and Richard driving these!

[@PaulMcElligott]

James is too busy making gin.

[@MattWiggyWiggins]

Watching Ben go around the track makes me so happy. Him going off road in the Evo just screamed Gambon Corner...

[@MahadShahzad08]

WRX and Evo enthusiasts are not enemies but brothers after 2 decades. Subaru lost Colin McRae and Mitsubishi lost the Evo.

[@Petrus-j7p]

Evo All day Every Day. So sad we are not seeing a new generation.

[@JDM_PLUS]

I’ll watch anything with Ben on the track. Always enjoyable.

[@awaisenterprises9919]

Both excellent cars, but I'd prefer Subaru any day over Evo. Plus, I wanted to see Richard Hammond in his Subaru and Mike in his Evo to have that last ride to verdict that which car is best and also have a drag race as well. I mean, Richard Hammond is known for car stuff, so it'd be logical to have him there with the ex stig Ben Collins. Lastly, I love your content and love the humour to give us Mike and Richard Hammond ❤️.

[@Jameesjourneys]

Evo all the way! I had the STI and then changed to an Evo 9 FQ340 which I've owned for almost 11 years now. Absolutely love it!

[@lukino690]

put a Subaru Impreza spec C, not a normal European Impreza like this one, evo lose

[@daturbo4life711]

Everyone talks about Subaru and it’s unreliability. Yet it’s the Evo that breaks. How ironic lol

[@stevenbrown9374]

Team Evo right here.

[@Charkunt.d5]

Let’s get 2wisted! Team evo 😘

[@remissiveslave]

Haven't watched video yet "one of the cars doesnt make it home" i say subaru. Just maintain it bro, just drive it gently bro, just dont mod it bro, mod it bro, you dont change oil bro. Ill update this oncd done watching. (Wow, i was wrong)😨

[@teddygunzbarno2102]

We know dam well on a track or rallying a wrx always wins but the Evo is a rare diamond in the ruff

[@R1eger25]

There is this place in Hungary where you pay like 200 eur and you can hoon around both cars for some laps, having driven both the subaru and the evo back to back i can say that the eveo felt abit more manageable, some how more planted and more confidence inspiring.

[@lunarweasel]

Really enjoyed the three of you together. Great chemistry and balance of personalities. Cheers!

[@Redmi-j4i]

I dont care who wins. They are both legends. I want both of them in my garage. 😊

[@tony66au]

Having enjoyed a few Mitsi's from a VR4 to an AWD Magna/Diamente Sport and an Evo3 and 5 their AWD systems are incredible along with the chassis dynamics which makes them a great all round sport sedan, the motorsports heritage and the resulting trickle down engineering makes them a really fun thing especially on the loose stuff.

[@ultimateshadeofwar]

Welp, looks like the evo was faster, but it wasn't ready to leave... Subaru for life :P Joking aside, both cars are amazing, and there is a reason to why both of them are classic, there is no wrong choice just preference... And i prefer Martin

[@OO7JAMS]

Ben Collins makes any car look fast. The man’s a legend 👏 Scooby or Evo …. BOTH 🚀🇿🇦

[@codthelegend]

Subaru everyday of the week and twice on Sundays

[@urbanstrencan]

Subaru for me ;)

[@williamp6271]

Top gear already did this test/review. They all concluded the evo is by far the best.

[@maxtorque2277]

Sorry, but i have an instant pathalogical hatred for anyone that can't pull on a handbrake without pressing the button.......... ;-)

[@tim1289r]

We always call them ratchet snatchers! And I wholeheartedly agree.

[@matthewmandregan1467]

10k build for two laps? And I thought Subarus were unreliable.

[@naderyehya4693]

The cars with Izzy were like: we have all the power and heritage but you're going to cruse. The cars with Ben: Yeah BABY 🤣

[@MarieWest-tbic]

I would think lap lines won't match when also conducting an interview. Mike can drive. Izzy got better at driving a stick. And Ben is awesome! Love Drive Tribe! ❤

[@leemosley9206]

I’ve had both and I’d say evo puts power down better and handles better but scoops may be slightly faster in a straight line but it’s only fair if all things are equal which will never happen. Evo for me

[@0Y02USH]

We need James and Rich to do it Then we're talking 🗣️🗣️

[@antoinedoinell]

inline 4 > flat 4

[@Carlos19716]

Scooby for me all day

[@dalejenkins5660]

Watching Top Gear over the years every time they had the Evo vs Wrx the Evo beat the Subaru every time around the track and with less HP.

[@keithmcdonnell4485]

What the heck happened to that flywheel? I am guessing the clutch got way over heated during the laps, and when the clutch / flywheel cooled down it cracked?

[@hsingh630]

Both brilliant cars, iconic in every way.

[@jimmywatsup1]

Love both cars, But prefer the WRX. The suby rumble is unmatched.

[@Nightmareof94]

Subaru every time i just love the noise of a boxer engine

[@dmacpher]

Really sensing a new team demo real being made for your production company 😊 Go get it!

[@ExodiaNecross2]

Always been Evo for me especially 1995 Evo 3 in WRC 1995 & 1996.

[@hector_nimrod]

I cant decide, Need both in my life

[@robertneak8613]

Both car look big for her to drive if she was in America everything here is super big.even the ego cars here is super big

[@flight240]

Evo was always better. But by the time I was financially ready... It was dead. 😭😭

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

Stig says martin is best, plus the evo breaks. Common wrx W

[@D3V1NF5]

Honestly fully expected the evo engine to develop a knock as the car with the "problem" at the end, because the track was predominantly right hand fast corners. And the way the oil pan is set up, consistent fast right corners starves the oil pump, and its not uncommon for track evos to have this issue. As well as MASSIVE amounts of blow by, forcing all sorts of junk into catch cans if you have them. Still the car I would choose though, hands down.

[@mcgoo721]

Nothing hurts more than when a girl gets in your cool car and says "that noise in unbearable" 🤕

[@LegerAndCo]

AS an Ex Evo owner I always regretted selling mine.

[@chriswood1904]

So Subaru was better car 😂 Evo couldn’t even make it off track same as when there are on road

[@vladbej959]

Evos seem more “exotic” and special to me.

[@codthelegend]

If the Racing driver chose the STi and the female chose the lancer, you should probably know which of the two is the superior platform 🤭

[@daturbo4life711]

Yep. The racing driver knows which car is for a man 🤭

[@SlinkSquash327]

Why's ol' mate pulling the handbrake in an awd car while in gear 🤔

[@BugattiONE666]

0:05 in and/// Subaru vs Evo? You mean Subaru vs Mitsubishi OR Impreza vs Evo....CURSE YOUUUU OCD XD

[@DragonSpawn4Twenty]

FQ300 vs STI

[@atodaso1668]

Always liked the evo more. All my friends that had subarus pulled the engine at some point.

[@gigi_subi]

Normal to pull the engine on Suabru’s lol. I do it in an hour or less if I’m not being lazy. Look up wrx engine pull speed runs I think people are under 30 minutes 😂

[@kjwilson862]

Subaru all day long, the real drivers car, end of 💪

[@pragmatist7455]

I love this! What a great tribute to two legends.