Change your car with Carwow: bit.ly/-Change-Your-Car-2409
@poplaurentiu41482 ай бұрын
Choosing to keep a friendly ending scoring equal 1 / 1 was a smart move however one could argue both can have advantages & losses and the fact that Hyundai engineers did such a great job with ioniq 5N to the point it keeps up and can overpass on full speed on track higher class more expensive performance cars (i spot Ferrari & Porsches even though was for a short period just for as long as the battery electric juice is not depleted) that is another story but a very cool one as example for future EV's..
@tubesod2 ай бұрын
Thought it read "charge your car with carwow" 😂
@dwy67032 ай бұрын
Got a Hyundai EV? Find Charge My Hyundai on your app store! No need for loads of charging apps!
@ross-carlson2 ай бұрын
MOAR OF THIS PLZ!!!
@Horejozz2 ай бұрын
in Indonesia to fully charge your ioniq 5N car costs around 17£-23£ mad 😂
@1MrBryn3 ай бұрын
For the life of me, I don't understand why charging stations don't just work like a petrol station. Plug it in and then just pay with your card. There is zero reason for them to use an app or QR code
@lassebauer3 ай бұрын
It´s like phone companies; the more complex it is the more they can hide the cost. It´s by design not by accident.
@BSquare19893 ай бұрын
The Tesla ones do. Even easier. Just plug and unplug - payment is automatically done via the car's account.
@markburton83033 ай бұрын
they do.
@lassebauer3 ай бұрын
@@BSquare1989 Is the price the same no matter where you charge or at what time of the day?
@ereinaldy203 ай бұрын
yeah, i thinking like you too.. why they do that sh*t hahahaha just plug in , choose what percetages of your battery and pay it, easy. i don;t know who make that apps more complicated.
@1InVader12 ай бұрын
Phone apps for recharging should be illegal.
@andersongustave73062 ай бұрын
And it didn’t even work
@staceypark74082 ай бұрын
You can pay by card. Just tap your card on the machine
@dopiaza20062 ай бұрын
By law, all chargers have to accept contactles payment without an app. They are just pissing about for clicks.
@xMorningstarx2 ай бұрын
Being technologically illiterate should be illegal.
@1InVader12 ай бұрын
@@xMorningstarx If you're technologically literate, you want phone apps even less, because you know they're just an excuse to harvest user data.
@frediiii50852 ай бұрын
If you would still be in the EU, all of your newly built DC chargers would be required by law to have NFC direct payment capabilities.
@timbrassey91462 ай бұрын
Yet another cost of Brexit.....
@SupraSav2 ай бұрын
@@timbrassey9146hmm ease of use cost of brexit😂?? Poltical agenda is showing
@beefiron2 ай бұрын
@@SupraSavHe's saying that the fact that they don't have this requirement, which would make life easier for consumers, is a cost of Brexit, which it is.
@edwyncorteen15272 ай бұрын
It is already compulsory in the UK, sadly does not apply to existing chargers.
@jamie-hb8gy2 ай бұрын
But not all phones have NFC.
@seanbeukman95633 ай бұрын
What a surprise! Charging problems. Unreal. Mats rant was spot on. The Porsche guy said it all,"Good luck with that"
@achaz_3 ай бұрын
What a surprise ! Gas station problems ! how interesting...
@aussie2uGA3 ай бұрын
I can't believe in 2024 that other makers can't figure out the ease of Tesla Supercharging. Just plug the cable in and walk away! No phone needed, no cares, the car figures it all out. Why can't other makers get it done like this?
@JeffreyBenzodiazepines3 ай бұрын
"why can't other apps be like Google in 2024" @@aussie2uGA
@NomenClature-o8s3 ай бұрын
@@aussie2uGATheoretically that’s true. Until you realize the Tesla charger is 10 miles in the wrong direction and they are all in use. I know….that NEVER happens to you. 😂
@aussie2uGA3 ай бұрын
@@NomenClature-o8s You must be in a different country? In the US, there are over 20,000 superchargers - they’re everywhere. Just plug the cord in and go to the bathroom…
@glenfarrugia17213 ай бұрын
Agree 1000% with you Mat regarding the chargers.
@Arpedk3 ай бұрын
Just as bad as Top gear... making EVs look like a joke on purpose... just sad.
@thesupremekai1980s3 ай бұрын
We dont want an app for every charging station. Its absolutely insane. We also have self pay petrol stations in Japan and they are pretty reliable.
@Arpedk3 ай бұрын
@@thesupremekai1980s Yes, just plug&charge like Tesla.
@achaz_3 ай бұрын
@@thesupremekai1980s then use the chargemap card ! and yoiu're really the only ones with this issue, in france, germany and switzerland, this issue doesn't exist
@sargfowler96033 ай бұрын
@@Arpedk just true
@gh1004a2 ай бұрын
As a korean, UK is way more hard to use 5N in track. we have fast DC charger in every major track in korea. And even DC charger to fully charge battery, only cost less than 20 pound. Oh, if you buy 5N brand new, charging cost is free. So in korea, 5N is bargain of century to use track toy. you can use 20min fun, 20min recharge and take a break, and do it again.
@Kaelidoz2 ай бұрын
So many fast discharge/recharge cycles are going to trash the lithium pretty f fast =(
@Gcyrusin2 ай бұрын
Yeah exactly @@Kaelidoz
@fedor76952 ай бұрын
@Kaelidoz I mean racing an M2 in the same manner wouldn't be beneficial for the car either
@VanquishedAgain2 ай бұрын
It's literally not though.
@VanquishedAgain2 ай бұрын
@@fedor7695 not even remotely as bad for it.
@dodge_walks2 ай бұрын
7 apps for all the different car park providers. 16 apps for all the charger providers. It's a joy being a motorist . . . . .
@golf1diesel2 ай бұрын
ICE ftw. One shell app. Done.
@TheRichardHonor2 ай бұрын
Pretty much all DC is by card now. Very rare you need an app. They're still frustrating to use though.
@brianbarcroft91672 ай бұрын
@@dodge_walks Well actually I use only 1 card and occasionally the Tesla app to charge my non-Tesla car at one of their chargers and that's only on the few occasions that I am not charging overnight at home.
@tomas_klouda2 ай бұрын
@@TheRichardHonor yeah, if you are rich, you can use just a single card and don't care about the price. But if you have to decide whether to pay 40-60% premium or use an app it's an easy decision for all of us poor guys 😉
@brianbarcroft91672 ай бұрын
@@tomas_klouda Don't be silly! For about 90% of EV owners using a public charger is a rarity. If you do have to use chargers on a long journey, and you want to pay the absolute minimum, you could plan your route and sign up to whatever app you think you may need within seconds.
@ohiou_2kbobcat4942 ай бұрын
I experienced the same problem with my EV. Charging stations all have apps…creating accounts, setup payment methods….and they are all different and incredibly irritating.
@trevorberridge60792 ай бұрын
I helped a newbie set up an app in three minutes. You only have to do it once and most faster chargers have contactless payment so an app is not required. Funny how some people who own smart phones that run entirely on apps only have a problem understanding the ones that charge EVs. 🤔
@bikeman1232 ай бұрын
@@trevorberridge6079 And that one app is all he needs for every charger? Doubt it.
@Lemingtona-x5g2 ай бұрын
yeh there no reason for what they have done, only the Tesla system works best
@uaexemarat2 ай бұрын
Relying on an app means: 1) You spend time downloading and setting it up 2) time to open it and find the page to start charging 3) Having internet data available 4) Having space in your phone for an app 5) Having online transactions enabled on your card 6) A possible data security issue in how each of the many quickly made apps store your card info 7) Having charge in your phone 8) Your phone not being broken if you have a card terminal on the machine, you just insert your card and go
@trevorberridge60792 ай бұрын
@@uaexemarat That's why you set up your phone BEFORE you make your journey and your app is ready to go before you leave the house. And it's not like contactless card networks always work.
@nawafa43072 ай бұрын
With respect as M owner spanning 2 decades; the refueling is not the issue between sessions. The biggest challenge is brakes on more demanding courses. Also; you don’t need to recharge to 100 or even 90% to keep going back to the track in Ionic 5N. The fast charger takes it from 10-80% in 18 mins and that’s good enough for 2 full laps in the Nordschleife. How many fast laps do you think you can do on the same circuit back to back with standard spec M2?
@DickVanPaiton2 ай бұрын
Sam wants to drive with gears. Matt says "nah" and turns it off. Matt goes into the driving seat and turns on the gear-simulation right away bragging how cool that is. Nice!?
@druscanam3 ай бұрын
Fun fact, if you've just been thrashing your electric car and heat your battery, the internal resistance will lower allowing for faster charging so that's probably why your car charged faster than Hyundai claimed possible.
@astro88332 ай бұрын
for conductors, increase in temperature means increase in resistance
@druscanam2 ай бұрын
@@astro8833 In a battery extra heat causes the electrolyte to become more conductive therefore lowering the internal resistance.
@Jacobwlane2 ай бұрын
This is somewhat true - the rate of charge increases (as does the capacity interestingly) within batteries when they heat up as the heat further catalyses the redox reactions inside the cell, hence why modern EVs will preheat their batteries before charging or heavy driving. The other commenter is right - internal resistance does increase with heat in conductors, but the catalysing action of the heat far exceeds it. Pushing this too far is catastrophic for the battery, hence why EVs will now (paradoxically) cool their batteries whilst charging. As with any good technology, there are some massive tradeoffs though - increasing battery temperature to catalyse the reactions will damage the cell and reduce its lifespan and capacity in the long term. I'm surprised Hyundai didn't current limit the charge rate before it reached their quoted maximum, but I would hope they would know the upper bounds for battery safety and longevity and limit the current accordingly (edit: a temporary 1kw over the max is probably a rounding error or a pre-loss measurement at the charger. I wouldn't read into that)
@zdkama2 ай бұрын
This could not be more backwards. Google drone batteries exploding. Over discharging is terrible for Lithium batteries. IR goes up when the voltage drops below a safe threshold, which can happen under heavy load not just when the battery is at low charge. And with enough amp draw (read: heat) the electrolyte separation layers can break down causing an internal short and instant self ignition. Lithium batteries do not fuck around, and they REALLY do not like being over drawn.
@aussie2uGA2 ай бұрын
@@zdkama None of that can happen as the BMS monitors it all.
@Humax9182 ай бұрын
I just can't believe how crappy these charging station apps are 🤮
@nomayor13 күн бұрын
The whole thing with the chargers just proves how hastily it has been done. It's a mess.
@ChronicBintX3 ай бұрын
Had ours 3 weeks(5 N), loving it so far. Home charging a full charge is £7 (Intelligent Octopus Go), super chargers are a rob.
@03Deltaintegrale3 ай бұрын
If you don't mind me asking, I assume it's on a workplace ev scheme/salary sacrifice deal and 40% tax rate payer. What's the monthly cost for you?
@ChronicBintX3 ай бұрын
@@03Deltaintegrale Its a fully maintained lease through a work scheme. No point giving prices unfortunately as its completely different scheme from things like sacrifice schemes etc. Suffice to say an M2 would have cost less but my 6 foot 4 boy wouldn't fit in the back 😂and an M3 is way more expensive. The 5 N is fairly unique at the moment for the price.
@colinnicol70193 ай бұрын
i'm thinking of getting one - do you mind me asking what everyday range are you achieving ?
@ChronicBintX3 ай бұрын
@@colinnicol7019 224 mile indicated range at 100% charge. Did 106 miles and had 59% charge remaining and an indicated 122 miles left. Usually only charge to 80% and has around 180 mile indicated range. We generally only do a few miles a day and longer trips very rarely, so suits us great.
@mikadavies6603 ай бұрын
Not only is home charging cheaper by x10 the service costs will be peanuts and the old bill won't be pulling you over every Saturday evening...
@Milos92ns2 ай бұрын
19:45 For me, the big question is how many laps did the BMW do for 90£ and how many the Hyundai for 60£? My guess since the Hyundai was charging half of the time, that the BMW did more laps on the track.
@northcountrywoodcraftny59532 ай бұрын
For racing, gas will riegn Supreme for a long time, unless your doing time attack once per day then gas is simply better no matter what racing your doing
@techfreaks41342 ай бұрын
the battery is to small in the hyundai 5n I didn't drive much and dropped 10/15% easily on test drive for 15 mins drive. the new 2025 taycan 4s did better and I rinsed that thing hard for an hr@@northcountrywoodcraftny5953
@Midala872 ай бұрын
@@northcountrywoodcraftny5953 Having an EV racing circuit would be interesting. It could extend the amount of time that races last due to pit stops to recharge would take up a lot of time.
@northcountrywoodcraftny59532 ай бұрын
@@Midala87 like how trains are powered? There's ways to do it but all of them Involve ridiculously dangerous conditions for racers and exorbitant costs, not to mention training costs, r&d costs etc. Sometimes it's best not to re invent the wheel. Gas works and it's starting to reach a point where emissions arnt an issue, that took 100 years of development, until electric makes more power, lasts longer, wighs less and costs significantly less it's just a gimmick politicians use to pad thier resume
@doghous32 ай бұрын
right, funny how they glossed over that. Anyway, to each their own, I guess. Electric motors are just not as fun in any way compared to an engine in the context of motoring.
@joeynessily3 ай бұрын
Why would Silverstone only install 22kw AC chargers?
@402m2 ай бұрын
Отсталая страна
@josefv-y8m2 ай бұрын
AC Chargers are a complete waste of money at such a location...does not scale, and does not help anyone. At home and at work it is Ok, but at public locations...no...no one stops for hours just to wait for the car.
@rabidpb2 ай бұрын
For anyone visiting for the day to spectate, or to drive something that isn't the family runaround, AC charging is exactly what is needed.
@cherryjuns77642 ай бұрын
It would be used to charge golf carts for lawn care.
@AI-Records242 ай бұрын
They have to buy grid space and more won’t have been available (or was, but at a price they didn’t want to pay) not to mention demand clearly isn’t there for it, yet.
@Timmycoo3 ай бұрын
That whole debacle that was Mat's final petrol station visit was hilarious. Starting off with him walking right into the bollard, then having issues with the pump and receipt. So freaking funny lol.
@Twmpa2 ай бұрын
Debacle it might have been but it still took a tiny fraction of the time spent charging that EV.
@Timmycoo2 ай бұрын
@@Twmpa Yeah, that was funny too with the plethora of apps and complaining :P Oh and the guy at the Porsche station telling Mat good luck lol.
@christopherbiomass7155Күн бұрын
And he left his card in the machine whilst fueling.
@solomonsmith36582 ай бұрын
Imagine waiting for your track day to start, and then deciding to charge your car
@dopiaza20062 ай бұрын
EVs do require a certain amount of common sense that is severely lacking in many people these days.
@solomonsmith36582 ай бұрын
@@dopiaza2006 precisely
@Trucking_Tom2 ай бұрын
@@dopiaza2006 it's definitely lacking in ev drivers that's for sure
@Angusoksen3 ай бұрын
That's just poor planning. At Denmarks largest track We have 4X 400kW chargers just outside the track entrance. We had them for 2 years! It's not that difficult!
@biafo45413 ай бұрын
Thanks for that tip, if you want to race your EV on a track, a trip to Denmarks largest track is the way
@enricocolombo3 ай бұрын
Yes but in Denmark you can buy two i5N at M2 price thanks to ICE tax… Nice 👍🏻
@purwantiallan50893 ай бұрын
@@enricocolomboICE tax is rated at 8.9 percent on these cars.
@Astke3 ай бұрын
@@biafo4541 Too bad going on track is not that important to pretty much 99% of people. otherwise this would maybe become a problem...
@nurburgringuk3 ай бұрын
@@Astkebut the point of this video is if an electric car is fun to drive and taking it on track is far easier to explore that fun than on public roads.
@DrewsTurbo2 ай бұрын
Whilst I don’t own an EV, I’ve spent plenty of time with many of them and the biggest issue is easily the public charging infrastructure (and that’s coming from mostly positive experiences). If you want to get an EV and can’t charge at home, I’d seriously suggest sticking with ICE for a while longer.
@henrytang22032 ай бұрын
What's insane is that the 1800kg M2 weighs more than the Ford Falcon I used to own. 2006 model, large interior, 5m long and only 1700kg with fluids and heavy. Soon any car below 2000kg will be considered light.
@greattoseerobinscore2 ай бұрын
Yeah just modern BMW things and ghey electronics.
@dannywhite1322 ай бұрын
Mostly because of safety. Modern cars have far more regulation around crumple zones etc as well as all the tech on board as well.
@CoinLaundry5002 ай бұрын
The actual official kerb weight of the G87 M2 is 1730kg and a 2014 XR6 Turbo has an official kerb weight of 1776kg, but yeah still pretty crazy to think the last gens m3 is lighter than this m2.
@Dcage132 ай бұрын
Dulwich Hill represent!
@wykydytron2 ай бұрын
It's for safety, go crash in that bmw at 100km/h and then crash your falcon or whatever old car, but in that order because your not walking out from old car while you will be perfectly fine in new car. Stop being ignorant people.
@mikadavies6603 ай бұрын
Nice test... Two car costing around the same money.... However, the Hyundai would suit as a our family car better. Appreciated that it's not perfect on all fronts, but it is a great all round performance hatchback.
@onehorsepower3 ай бұрын
Agree. It has the interior size of an X5M to pick a BMW equivalent. But the cg of a hot hatch....(quoted lower than i30N)
@mikadavies6603 ай бұрын
@@onehorsepower Exactly... Look at Misha taking one around Nürburgring.... No brake fade, sideways through corners and past many supercars. I don't have £65k..... But if I did, I would consider this Hyundai value for money. And in gloss black it doesn't even stand out. Sky Blue is a bit to "Essex" for me.
@soltcolt45063 ай бұрын
Perfect family car, you, your wife and your children will love it. You definitely need that 650hp 😂
@Astke3 ай бұрын
This is only possible on EVs, have M2 performance but way more practical without costing more. People overlook this
@dylanburston74532 ай бұрын
@@Astke It isnt.
@jakes55302 ай бұрын
Look, I’m team ICE until I’m forced into an EV, but the I5N is certainly tempting. Of all EVs on sale right now, that’s easily gotta be the most engaging.
@justalonelypoteto2 ай бұрын
if you don't live in EV hell (rural North America), I'd really recommend trying one out if you can, and even if you are maybe do so anyway:) I am a lover of manuals, old shitboxes whatnot, I'm borrowing a city EV (an e208) and I found it to be extremely satisfying, I miss shifting and all that fun stuff but it's got its upsides too. Instant torque, preheating, cheap charging, flies away at low speeds absurdly fast for being a city commuter car lol, doesn't waste much of anything keeping you creeping forward and comfy in backed up traffic, list just goes on. Unfortunately expensive new but I mean, so are car enthusiast cars and I find something's really appealing about a stupid little scifi looking nugget that can just absolutely go flying whenever you want it to (albeit with french traction control, scary lol). I might not be the best reference as I live in a european city, but the only non-fun scenario I can think of is highways at high (German) speeds because you start to see your remaining charge drop away q u i c k
@jakes5530Ай бұрын
@@justalonelypoteto Maybe in a different stage of our life. We routinely do 450 mile trips 7-10 times a year to visit our inlaws. The I5n just wouldnt be practical enough to do that. With an ICE you can drive the 150 miles to the destination, drive all around town 150 miles over the course of a weekend, and then spend 3 minutes fueling up before heading the 150 miles home and arrive home with half a tank. The i5n would barely make it to our destination, then would have to find somewhere out of the way to charge it for 30+ minutes multiple times over the course of the weekend since our parent’s homes dont have level 2 charging and we dont want to spend 16+ hours using their electricity waiting to charge up at level 1. The math just doesnt make much sense. If we were in a situation where we didnt do this I might consider an i5n. I really do like it.
@GallAnonim-jx2cz29 күн бұрын
I live in China and already 55% of sales are EV and PHEV. Charging don't need any apps, it just works, plug in and pay
@CaptainKedah2 ай бұрын
I'm 100% Sure this Videos of Matt Complaining about Issues Ev Charging Stations is going to be Played in Parliament and National News like Bbc News ..etc . He got a Point , Good Job Matt
@andreasu.35462 ай бұрын
Sure enough the MP have long been convinced by lobbyists that this is the best way to go. Hell, half of them probably get a personal profit out of the system.
@lonzie2 ай бұрын
@@andreasu.3546 your cynicism is unfounded for once. The government has already created legislation forcing charging points to be pay as you go via contactless, so this garbage will be a thing of the past soon.
@jeskli112 ай бұрын
100% agree with Mat's take on the charging stations, it's overly complicated across different suppliers. I would also add, that the cost of the charge should be more transparent - if you come to a petrol station, you clearly see the price per litre (or per gallon), but then if you come to a charging station you're not familiar with and you have pretty much no idea how much it will cost until you plug the cable in. In addition, if you have an app or some bonus card for a petrol station, it'll typically save you just some spare cash, but usually no more than about a pound on a full tank; with electric charging stations however, at least in my country, being included in some bonus programme could at some stations save you HALF of the cost (or shall I say you pay once more than you should, unless you have their app)! I don't mind if a car manufacturer gives as a 'gift' discount to certain charging stations or if you can save a few penny with an app, but you absolutely shouldn't need twenty different apps with twenty different accounts to get fair prices on a road trip through Europe for example, IMO.
@johnbaker55332 ай бұрын
Later this year new regulations come in that make it mandatory to have contactless payment and display the pricing. People will still use apps though to get a discounted rate.
@trevorberridge60792 ай бұрын
One thing I can do every day with my EV that no ICE owner can do is to fill up for FREE when I'm at a supermarket or a hotel or a cinema or a coffee shop or a mountain of other locations. Most people don't need expensive super fast charging options. Most people don't drive most of the time and don't go very far on most of their journeys. And you're right. You don't need twenty different apps going through Europe. They've had a one app solution going for years that allows you to charge on multiple networks. ZapMap do a similar thing. It's only as difficult as you make it. I did the longest journey I've ever done by car in 2017. 890 mile round trip to Scotland in two days, no charging issues, one app and one RFID card for the journey and it was totally free. Seven years later and the networks are far more expansive and easier to use, never mind a lot faster. Even in my old, small battery EV I can go anywhere in the whole of the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland. And now with networks opening up and adapters being made to allow older cars to plug into chargers with newer standards it gets easier all the time.
@rileygale_3 ай бұрын
13:54 In korean market, Hyundai advertises IONIQ 5 can be charged up to 350kW. I think this differs between infras of country. For instance, Hyundai and Kia are operating their own ev fast charging network called 'E-pit' in Korea, which is usually installed in service areas, huge mall, or train stations. Its network is not that big now but it is certain that Hyundai is enthusiastic on spreading their EV.
@MrPhatties3 ай бұрын
350KW charger compatible (800V) but not 350KW charge speed. It tops out around 265KW and they claim 240KW.
@purwantiallan50893 ай бұрын
It supposed to have 475KW Charging Speed,@@MrPhatties
@cannonacesw22362 ай бұрын
@@purwantiallan5089 why not over 9000? 475 not possible...
@kosiranze2 ай бұрын
Hyundai advertised 18 minute charges on a 350kw station. I have yet to see them claim 350kw charging capability. Slimy marketing technique if you ask me.
@Mav86asian2 ай бұрын
Yeah, before they explode in the parking lot
@siutingkwan28942 ай бұрын
As an owner of i30n in Hong Kong, I am very impressed by the ioniq5n as air conditioner able to keep running when parked and waiting for my wife. And i am looking forward to get a simulation of manual gear bix from hyundai or lexus❤
@w1ldwesty3 ай бұрын
It's like the people who designed the charging systems have never used a car before. Why on earth cant you just tap a card and charge up.
@aussie2uGA3 ай бұрын
I can't believe in 2024 that other makers can't figure out the ease of Tesla Supercharging. Just plug the cable in and walk away! No phone needed, no cares, the car figures it all out. Why can't other makers get it done like this?
@biafo45413 ай бұрын
It's like telling people that they gonna built water ways all over and that we should buy boats. The water ways is 0.5 complete, but pls go ahead and buy the boats immediately 😂
@00Silvin003 ай бұрын
I don't know about Britain but on the European mainland most charging stations work with tap-and-go. And some stations (Fastned for example) let you register your car if wanted. In that case is just a case of plugging in, charge and drive off. Invoice will be in your mailbox at the end of the month. It's my primary reason for using these.
@drunkenhobo80203 ай бұрын
@@aussie2uGAMaybe Tesla have a major stake in making sure EVs are easy to charge. Shell and VW? Well maybe they want the opposite...
@timt38133 ай бұрын
You can just tap and pay on some in the UK but often they will give you a preferential rate if it means they can harvest your personal data through an app signup.
@SuperBloodyskull2 ай бұрын
Wished they had posted flying laps for both to compare.
@pqvid2 ай бұрын
I must be doing something wrong: I have an RFID charging card and it works with all charging stations across Europe. Tap the card on charging station and walk away. That's it. But that's of course not enough drama for a Car Wow episode.
@adamcrane31263 ай бұрын
Seems electric is only the go if you charge at home as fast charging is a rip off and more expensive than petroleum
@AleksandarStefanovic3 ай бұрын
Exactly - and fortunately, that's what'd you'd do 95% of the time, unless you travel more than 250 miles daily. Fast chargers are expensive, but you're only supposed to use them when traveling long distances
@jonc-19893 ай бұрын
@AleksandarStefanovic exactly this. Plus you don't do a 0-100% charge on an expensive rapid charger, you just top up what you need to get to your destination
@stephenclay68523 ай бұрын
It is if you only use rapid chargers but most people would charge at home and only use a rapid charger when absolutely needed
@dlevi673 ай бұрын
It's not just the expensive (though that doesn't help) - it's the faff and fragmentation: need an app here, a (dedicated) card there, a login there. All different. Why on Earth don't they simply use the common payment circuits as any other purchase (including fuel)?
@dlevi673 ай бұрын
@@AleksandarStefanovic That makes the big assumption that you have home charging available. About half the homes in the UK don't - not as in "they don't have it now"; as in "cannot install a home charger" because they don't have an own car parking space (or even a public parking space reachable via a reasonable cable length from the home).
@HaramiSalami4202 ай бұрын
4£ for 1 Liter 102 Octane? 😮 I will never Complain again when 102 Octane costs over 2€ here in Germany.
@TomWxm2 ай бұрын
Usually it’s around £1.50’for 99
@frodej66402 ай бұрын
I wonder what the governments cut of that is.
@dmitriyvolsky2 ай бұрын
@@frodej6640 in Germany, more than 50% of the price are taxes
@dalepeters38412 ай бұрын
Me as a US guy: You guys get more than 93 octane?
@JoaoSilva-xy5ep2 ай бұрын
@@dalepeters3841no we don't, the thing is us measures the octanes differently. Your measurement is what goes to the engine ours is what goes from the fuel pump
@BlurryFace-zz2roАй бұрын
4:15 I agree with the Rant. Governments like making stupid laws about things they know nothing about and making people's lives difficult for fuckall.
@UncleChopChop223 ай бұрын
Matt getting humbled at Porsche: Matt:Im matt watson. Porsche: Thats a no from out the back.
@purwantiallan50893 ай бұрын
Alfa Romeo to Porsche: No room out of the front of the box.
@ericedge29292 ай бұрын
*Watson
@mediocreman22 ай бұрын
His name is Mat Watson. Matt Walsh is the legend that is opening people's eyes to the flaws of the religion of woke.
@datoome_2 ай бұрын
@@mediocreman2can’t wait to watch his new documentary
@goldenageofdinosaurs71922 ай бұрын
@@mediocreman2lol, that guy is a complete joke🤣
@gian-lucanardini97062 ай бұрын
21:56 love these two together! Keep going it's great content with you two ✌️
@Nightcore_all_night2 ай бұрын
I love what they did with the gears. If they replace the sound with sounds from solar crown on rpm tracking this car would be realistic and super fun!
@Manakuski2 ай бұрын
I'm in northern finland and there are 150-350kw chargers everywhere, literally. Also i have only one app, one tag and the BMW card. That's all i need. I usually use the tag since it is the most convenient. So charging can be an issue, but isn't everywhere.
@josefv-y8m2 ай бұрын
Seems Brexit was not the best thing... ;-) Same for Germany...you can find HPCs everywhere...
@tomedward86522 ай бұрын
@@josefv-y8m - not in Berlin.
@erebostd2 ай бұрын
@@tomedward8652Berlin is „Special“ in any way possible, that’s nothing new…
@sebastiansandvik8252 ай бұрын
Not to mention that it costs 35-40 cents per kWh. Not closer to a pound per kWh like in the UK.
@kiljaeden76632 ай бұрын
Whenever I visit my construction sites in Norway I always rent an electric car. The infrastructure is amazing. I just use one app (Elton) but you can just use your bank card if you want.
@osceli96823 ай бұрын
Race electrons. Someone somewhere will sell this.
@Snerdles2 ай бұрын
Audiophile EV owners salivating about race electrons using deionized directional charging cables for the cleanest possible charging signal!
@osceli96822 ай бұрын
@@Snerdles it’s like those 100 dollar hdmi cables vs 8 dollar hdmi cables.
@valuemastery2 ай бұрын
Also, if you want to go really fast, you shouldn't charge green electricity. Use 100% nuclear power for best acceleration.
@myscho2 ай бұрын
4:15 ...and when you add the chargers, let each of them have a card payment terminal, I don't want to use a mobile phone, an app, or register anywhere. I want to come, insert the cable, charge, pay by card.
@MattKeller2 ай бұрын
They should offer both. No reason to isolate anyone regardless of personal preference
@stevenmeyers50882 ай бұрын
One car is good on the track and doubles as an everyday family car. That’s the true advantage of the I5N.
@verynormalman2 ай бұрын
It's actually good to see the real chaos that normal people experience with EVs. I borrowed a Mini electric for 24 hours. It was a fecking nightmare. It kind of destroyed our whole day. The stress, and then finding a charger, then once we found one, it wouldn't charge at the advertised rate, but still took the full enhanced payment rate for the DC rate. We finished the day, thinking that we were either stupid, or had somehow totally misunderstood the whole process.
@kuro_shinigami75263 ай бұрын
11:52 if you put Jeremy Clarkson voice over there saying "15 minutes later and after a lot of technical yet stupid difficulties we managed to charge the car" it will be the perfect edit xD
@mihilcho822 ай бұрын
I went to SPA track day a month ago in my 2019 Megane RS Trophy. Drove 2500 km to there from Bulgaria, made 22 laps on stock brakes and drove 2500 km back with no issues at all. A lot of people hate on this car but I had so much fun without having to thing for anything than drive the hell out of it. I saw a lot of nice cars there and a lot of cars from UK but not a single EV was seen even near the track 😂
@loyallion64773 ай бұрын
When are we doing Matt vs Yianni foot race? 😂
@MakhoHlatywayo-wk8cr3 ай бұрын
😮😅😅
@snakeeyes92463 ай бұрын
Never.
@SoulTouchMusic932 ай бұрын
can i bet on "neither making it to the finish line unscathed"?
@Lemingtona-x5g2 ай бұрын
will be foot race against boston dynamics atlas robot
@ricardoferreira20382 ай бұрын
Thats older than my grand mother…
@cyruslad54622 ай бұрын
To be fair i got my first ev 3 weeks ago and i had so head scratches when charging, now its no bother, you learn which are the faff set ups and avoid them pretty quickly. I thought id miss petrol and the engine but now im full converted. When the 6N comes out I'd prefer it to any M3 or M4
@sooofancier2 ай бұрын
I've never seen Mat so angry and so serious ever before😅😅
@АлександрГайдук-н9ю3 ай бұрын
What about lap times?
@babisotonggg2 ай бұрын
Ioniq5N will be faster
@PEACEOUTXX12 ай бұрын
@@babisotongggno it won't. Name one track the 5N beats the m2. Go look at the throttle house review of the model 3 performance. They posted it's lap time and the 5N and model 3 both lost to the m2 on their leaderboards.
@babisotonggg2 ай бұрын
@@PEACEOUTXX1 G87 M2 did it with cup 2 tyres, Ioniq5N OE tyre is not that great compared to cup 2 tyre.. Tyre much tons of different on track, Tons of video out there showing how close both car timing really is. For example M2 laguna seca 1:38. Ioniq5N 1:39 with OE tyres.
@kng12818 күн бұрын
12:44 "It should work on the Shell App. Have you got the Shell app?" Face palms cracked me up! I can SO relate to this! I've lost count how many apps I need for starting charging. I'm so glad I can charge at home and work (2 networks near my office, 2 apps) for the majority of my trips.
@samteks1253 ай бұрын
6:20 Mat accidentally pronounced "Porsche" correctly. Probably just because the Hyundai owner did though
@H.K_R2 ай бұрын
He didn’t though, he said “Porsch’ has got some”
@Basih2 ай бұрын
Feels like the UK is like 5-7 years behind Sweden and the rest of Scandinavia when it comes to EVs. Essentially all charging stations here are required to accept normal payment cards with no apps needed.
@benmarley3086Ай бұрын
Oil money
@Jonny_O2 ай бұрын
Regarding the idea of putting chargers at gas/petrol stations: I think that might actually be perfectly wrong. Here's why: one goes to a gas/petrol station to get fuel, but rarely do you actually *want* to be there. Since electrical charging takes longer, why not put those mandatory charging stations at places people actually want/need to spend time at? Put a few at a restaurant so your car can 'eat' while you do. Put them at shopping centers and amusement parks. And just like everyone else is saying: ditch the annoying apps and just swipe/tap your credit card.
@AugustBanks9 күн бұрын
In a few short years we will likely have 10-minute charging (10-80%). These long charging times will be gone before the end of the decade.
@philsmith22193 ай бұрын
Where's Ginny Buckley when you need her! 😂 Matt should of had her on speed dial at the charging station
@richardcampbell86852 ай бұрын
Okay Karen
@Aydiniyom2 ай бұрын
21:08 haha, I don't know but I wish I knew how that Ferrari driver reacted here...
@hectorvieira43682 ай бұрын
I got that the intention was to show how inconvenient it is to have to recharge an electric car during your track day, but I think the main question remains: how many laps can an electric car (or at least this particular Ioniq 5 N) can do with a full charge? Because, let's be honest, if I'm taking an electric car to the track, surely I'd put extra money to transport it with a 100% battery, not wasting anything on my way there. So, with 100% charge, can we do what? 5, 10, 20 laps before the battery is depleted? Or else: how many laps before the battery heats too much and makes me stop? I think this subject deserves a part 2 to answer theses questions.
@warlock912 ай бұрын
This is like your older coworker kicking off because they can't use Excel. It's not the cars fault you don't know what you're doing.
@Pilch92 ай бұрын
😂 very true. Perhaps Matt is not the target demographic … 😂
@TrueSkyl1n32 ай бұрын
Excel has been around for longer than you’ve been alive, what a glorious self-own.
@Michael-pi8ps2 ай бұрын
@@TrueSkyl1n3yet yall still can’t use it
@hersir5573 ай бұрын
In iceland there are a couple of privately owned companies that put electric chargers all over the country. They all have every type of connectors on them. You can pay by app or an rfid keychain
@christohees91503 ай бұрын
Yap no thank you 😂 gasoline all day every day
@conor71542 ай бұрын
Oh cool, just need to pay what, about twice as much for the car as normal, world contributing countries?
@GraveUypo2 ай бұрын
@@conor7154 here in brazil byd cars are actually cheaper than most of their ice direct competitors. you can get a byd seal for like 15% more than a jetta gli (and cheaper than a series 3 bmw) and it has over twice the power.
@Nuntingdoli2 ай бұрын
@@GraveUypo yes. but china..
@joaoreis10792 ай бұрын
What stays about this video is the cuddle in the end 😂
@RandomKiddVR3 ай бұрын
Hyundai has really started to warm up to me, they have been innovating so much recently keep it up hyundai
@vedantsinghrathore13573 ай бұрын
Making a fast battery car is easy than making a high perform combustion car there's literally no innovation cuz there are many companies making high performance battery cars in cheap price for example byd seal ask Hyundai to make a powerful combustion car then we'll get to know that yeah they are improving let's take the 2.0ltr tgdi and compare it with 2.0tsi you'll see a huge difference in performance and many more things
@vedantsinghrathore1357 Hyundai has just came from only making combustion engine cars and also I was complementing them on their inavation in all areas like hydrogen
@vedantsinghrathore13573 ай бұрын
@@Tommmmmmmmmmmm electric fan boy got triggered but whats i said is true cmon you tell me the engineering through which electric cars go in comparison to ice cars ask Hyundai to make a v6 or v8 engine im damn sure it gonna be the shittiest engine ever i don't know of you know they made a v6 engine which they used in sonata literally a 1.5 tsi evo golf is faster than that shit but when you are making a battery car it's way more easier just put a big battery big motor EVs have fewer moving parts compared to ICE vehicles. They do not require complex components like exhaust systems, fuel tanks, and multi-speed transmissions
@Lemingtona-x5g2 ай бұрын
German brands are old fashioned
@alisyafiq24312 ай бұрын
1:42 Sam is me, i is Sam
@jklasfjklАй бұрын
20:40 not quite: a f1 driver doesn't plan when to deploy DRS (there a only a few designated zones in a track that you'd never not use). But rather when you harvested enough energy by braking you can use the electric motor fully (often called overtake button), which depletes the battery in a matter of seconds, but nets around 160 hp.
@dnpo2 ай бұрын
Why are we forced to own smartphones?
@lechprotean2 ай бұрын
There's always a catch - I tried ordering Ioniq 5 N and I simply can't - the whole production capacity through 2025 is filled up :( On the other hand with the current price it's not great value as I don't expect it will hold the resale price that well. But If I could I'd order one for myself anyway - the savings on petrol would basically break even for me vs owning a slightly less expensive 2nd hand sports car.
@mikeman86532 ай бұрын
There are cooling vent covers in the front wheel wells that need to be removed on the M2 to help with the brake cooling on a track. They are very easy to remove. You just pop them out during track days. You can leave them off if you like but on regular street driving its better to cover them back up to prevent pebbles and debris going towards the discs and brakes.
@cookiedoughdynamo27472 ай бұрын
I dont understand why any of the digital information such as car ID and payment method isn't directly communicated between the car and charging station. You plug in a fat cable and you're still fiddling around with a smart phone and credit card in hand.
@tiborpalatka2 ай бұрын
it is, you just need to get a Tesla
@ErebosGR2 ай бұрын
@@tiborpalatka Because a Tesla is collecting a lot more user data in the first place, so they don't need an app.
@richardcampbell86852 ай бұрын
@@ErebosGRthis guy gets it
@ErebosGR2 ай бұрын
@@richardcampbell8685 Yeah, the study that the Mozilla Foundation did on most car brands showed Tesla as the absolute worst offender in terms of data collection and data safety. Not to mention the anecdotal stories about Tesla employees watching live feeds from people's cars.
@eyupdemir81232 ай бұрын
Serious request from Carwow : 1) You must state the fuel consumption by liters per 100 km also. 2) Before you were showing how much luggage and etc. Can fit it the boot. Why quit ? 3) A lot of new models arrived but we can’t see it if they are not high end cars recently. Where is the new Kona, revised Tucson, new Santa Fe, Bayon models of Hyundai ? New Kodiaq is coming probably and 5008 is also coming but you are little behind. 4) VW group is struggling mightily recently, how about a podcast about it with Matt and Nick maybe ? 5) Why not review vans ? Caddy, new Transporter, Ford Transit, Connect , new Rifter, Berlingo, Proace, Doblo, Staria, Kangoo etc. A lot of people buying it through Carwow maybe but can’t get any information. 6) Some brands are missing a lot of reviews from Carwow. Maybe a short review for them like Nissan Micra, Hyundai i10, i20, Citroen c3, c4 etc. We love the drag races, we love Matt’s approach but this channel is more useful than it is fun.
@chriscringle92632 ай бұрын
Lest we forget 99.9% of people who comment on this video have never been on a track, will never go on a track and dont even have the skills to drive quick enough if they got a chance. So however much it pains me to say this... ON THE ROAD it would be the Hyundai.
@conor71542 ай бұрын
That’s cool. I’ve been to the track with my car more times than I can count. Multiple tracks. I also saw how comically difficult and convoluted charging that thing is, so no thank you. Perhaps you can point me to some 420 volt or whatever chargers in the middle of Tokushima or Miyagi. Oh what’s that? You can’t? Yeah, I’ll stick with gas cars then.
@henrytang22032 ай бұрын
Like the "manual or nothing" people who haven't yet learnt to drive stick?
@ChronicBintX2 ай бұрын
@@conor7154 Charging is dead easy in reality, the only real factor is the time it takes.
@kronik93172 ай бұрын
@@conor7154lmfao i doubt it buddy
@GraveUypo2 ай бұрын
i would get the hyundai anywhere. i like cars, i like racing, but practicality is important. this ionic is the new "hothatch" of the car world. does everything and still goes fast and is fun to drive
@LHSlash2 ай бұрын
You finally convinced me: M2 ordered!
@TurtleSodadrives2 ай бұрын
This dual driver concept was really enjoyable to watch. More of this please!
I hate to admit it but the hyundai is hella fun as an EV ngl. But M is king☻
@mauricetoussaint72832 ай бұрын
Still an EV, so basically, shit.
@andrecooper64662 ай бұрын
@@mauricetoussaint7283 agree
@8-Bit-Retro2 ай бұрын
I charged my EV6 at Porsche Bristol - zero issues. Tap my Electroverse card, plug in, charge. I've never used an app to charge so far. My experience of charging is good, maybe I'm lucky 🤷♀️
@calvinallan22083 ай бұрын
This should have been between ZO6 and Gt3rs. please make it happen Carwow
@preludeh22a573 ай бұрын
nobody cares about corvette outside US
@calvinallan22083 ай бұрын
@@preludeh22a57 you're just not a real car guy . Typical carrow audience 😂
@riba22333 ай бұрын
@@calvinallan2208 🤦♂
@calvinallan22083 ай бұрын
@@riba2233 you're proving my point thanks
@riba22333 ай бұрын
@@calvinallan2208 no I am not, please stop coping
@sschetters11302 ай бұрын
Lot's of emotions, I love it. That's what it's all about. And props to the editing guy putting in the MGS5 sound bit ❤
@combativesquire42343 ай бұрын
Fyi it's ers that f1 drivers use and need to plan and not drs
@Chris-nw6ws2 ай бұрын
I'd rather the 5N over the current hideous M2. I would however take the previous M2 over either
@Muzzy_6611 күн бұрын
I'm in Australia and I've been saying exactly this - that the only way EV's become feasible for the mainstream is if they can put at least one or two chargers at every petrol station. I wanted to take on a novated lease a couple of years ago for tax benefits and strongly considered an EV or PHEV due to bit tax advantages that the government was offering - but at the time I was living in a shared house, did not have a garage I could park the car in and did nto have regular access to a power port that I could use for charging. No matter how much I tried to make it work in my head, I kept coming to the same conclusion - that it just was not feasible at all for my lifestyle. In the end I picked up a Skoda Octavia RS245 instead, and it's been fantastic.
@jcg12752 ай бұрын
Staying with ICE cars, EV no thank you!
@Sahkoautoseparempiauto2 ай бұрын
Planning to drive a lot on track so you?
@Eminetics2 ай бұрын
To be honest I don’t think EVs will see much adoption now that sales have slowed to a crawl and buyers are afraid of the deprecation and hidden problems. Personally i am 32 and will never own an EV but it makes a great appliance for the GF to go shopping in I guess but yes it’s 100% utterly souless.
@mauricetoussaint72832 ай бұрын
We had a Tesla Model Y Performance and hated it. It was the wife's company car. It's gone now and back to ICE. We'll only get another EV when the infrastructure is in place and the cars are better.
@ysj58142 ай бұрын
As Korean, I’m just proud of Hyundai that their cars are now being filmed with BMW M!
@mpilv2 ай бұрын
A message to the government is a good idea. Chargers should be in every filling station.
@TheBasher-_-2 ай бұрын
As long as they don’t take away from actual gas pumps and there’s space to the side for them.
@andywillis97012 ай бұрын
having ICE sounds through the speakers of a performance electric car tells me all i need to know about them :)
@Veloclips142 ай бұрын
The Ferrari challenge at Silverstone was fire bro
@wellsyandcars2 ай бұрын
I will drive ICE cars until they are completely banned from the roads.
@CyberUtilia2 ай бұрын
I will drive them longer than that
@ThinkscapeVideo2 ай бұрын
Ok boomer
@kasmstamps18972 ай бұрын
Not so much being banned. It will be the tax. I paid my tax upfront. I got a Seal and solar panels.
@sorinelpustiu56742 ай бұрын
Dumb charging comparison. Reality: EV is fully charged when you wake up. ICE...you waste your time to go to the pump 😂 Also,nice advertisment for Tesla, supercharger network is flawless and that's why they sell MILLIONS of cars
@CyberUtilia2 ай бұрын
Well, if you only drive the same way to work everyday back and forth ...
@markgomez90792 ай бұрын
@@CyberUtilia wrong. With over 300 miles of range if your work commute is more than that then you need to find a new job
@CyberUtilia2 ай бұрын
@@markgomez9079 No, in that case you can still get a normal car. Or yes, you find a new job, I wouldn't enjoy driving everyday more than 100-200 miles and THE SAME WAY
@telfer33882 ай бұрын
in europe about 50% of the population lives in a home. So the other 50% will probably never have the ability to charge their electric car over night. And even for those living in homes If 100% of those 50% precent owould charge their cars over night as things stand for today the power grid is not capable of handling that - I wonder how many years it will take to overhaul the power grid for it to even be possible. All the early adopters bought Ev's by now (and if you are one of them and you are happy - good for you) and the sales plumeted all over place. The rest of the people just dont want them because there not practical for them. Not even mentioning the price and value los over time.
@sebastiansandvik8252 ай бұрын
To everyone wondering why there are charging apps - as someone in the tech sector dealing with valuations, let me tell you; If a customer buys elecitricity by tapping their credit card they buy a commodity as a one-time customer, then the company is valued as a commodity company with low expected growth. If a customer downloads an app, preferably has some kind of plan, and uses it to pay, then the income becomes recurring revenue.That means that you the valuation, usually, takes a certain expected growth into account (they are a tech company!) and the multiplier for the stock goes up. Luckily the EU requires card readers on new fast charging stations these days.
@risokoly37012 ай бұрын
Just by a Tesla and you will never have any charging problems. It’s that simple 🤣
@Highlander14322 ай бұрын
Just overheating after every lap
@alex993982 ай бұрын
Yeah, but it's a Tesla. Nah, I'd take the Ioniq 5N over any Tesla... Build quality is still awful on Teslas, those spare interiors and ergonomics are a joke and styling is absolutely HIDEOUS imo.. Styling is subjective, but man, Teslas ain't it imo..
@LouisDuran2 ай бұрын
You know what's really not fun.. paying $9 per gallon of gasoline!!! I pay about $3.00 to completely charge my EV battery from empty.
@Mav86asian2 ай бұрын
That’s because you’ve already PAID the price for your battery in advance. Without that battery, your car is worth 15K less.
@LouisDuran2 ай бұрын
@@Mav86asian wrong. I don't have time to explain to you why you're wrong. But you're wrong. My battery would not cost anywhere near that to replace. And I will NOT need to replace it before 100K miles.
@ianmungwadzi2 ай бұрын
@@Mav86asianI’m sorry but that’s like saying “you paid for your engine in advance”. That’s a given as it comes with the car.
@dopiaza20062 ай бұрын
@@Mav86asian And your engine was free?
@sachinparihar85822 ай бұрын
9$ for once and 3$ for 3 times. And already paid for battery
@sithlordsoup2 ай бұрын
9:40 lmao my old ass tablet has blown speakers so I use a Bluetooth speaker for audio, and right as this scene came up, the low battery warning started going off at the exact same time 🤣🤣
@olivers28782 ай бұрын
The reason that you can’t charge your EV at a petrol station is the fire risk that EV’s have. Fire and petrol do not go together.
@edipires152 ай бұрын
Last time I’ve checked ICE cars have a greater fire risk than EVs.
@RoytheLevy2 ай бұрын
So it's an electric car with sounds of an engine and gears in order to make it fun... That answered the question
@alex993982 ай бұрын
You know performance cars, including many high performance BMWs have fake pumped in engine sounds, right?
@jakes5530Ай бұрын
The bottom line is weight. The fact that most performance EVs weigh as more than an F150 should tell you everything you need to know. The I5N is a good start, at least it gives you a dynamic driving experience, but it’s never going to be as fun or nimble as an equivalent ICE sports car which weighs less.
@kagisot54793 ай бұрын
Mat is so stubborn why not take the 102???
@seepel3 ай бұрын
As he said, doesnt matter. Its not optimized for 102, so u gain nothing in terms of power
@bmonq3 ай бұрын
16:24 you're all so very welcome. 🤣
@rheinhardtfabisch34973 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@mrpeace38602 ай бұрын
EVs are not fun. I am driving a lot of the 'sport' EVs and they are just fast. Fast but boring and emotionless. And no matter what some brands come up with to make them not boring, they just stay boring and pale.
@arthurcurry34732 ай бұрын
Super entertaining video! More of this, please!
@dlhennes2 ай бұрын
Forcing EV only is the most asinine thing the UK and Europe is doing. Won’t work.
@hayk9032 ай бұрын
M2 of course. The other car is a laptop
@mamunlaskar33842 ай бұрын
Fun watching you guys on the track. Want more these.
@SchafdoggGTO2 ай бұрын
I love BMW, but the new gen is fucking ugly!
@benmarley3086Ай бұрын
BMW haven’t made a good looking car for almost 20 years
@DerRabe30002 ай бұрын
hm, clickbaiting headline turns me off .. much more than any bad car .. enough ev "sceptics" for me ..