Driving The Most Realistic F1 Simulator Money Can Buy

[@Random415510]

Ferrari needs a strategy simulator.

[@bennylloyd-willner9667]

They believe they have. It is a simulator where they try out many very unconventional tactics. They haven't yet realized that their testing environment is by all others called "The F1 Season" 😁

[@ml8022]

And good drivers

[@tjcoetzee]

Whahahaaa!

[@gelmir7322]

They love their circus simulator

[@robz1699]

the whole team has to play F1 Manager as part of the interview

[@Arch3r666]

Can only imagine someone brave enough to open shop and allowed the paid public to drive in the sim.

[@tadroid3858]

Exactly! Merry Christmas to us.

[@EricHorchuck]

It costs too much to do that. If it was $100 for a 20 minute session and you were open for 12 hours a day it would take 556 operating days just to pay for the sim... I guess if you had a good rate on long term financing, maybe. 🤔

[@tadroid3858]

@@EricHorchuck That's only a couple of years, but it all depends on the rate. Sell the bank a marketing study of the demand and the reliability of the sim. They'll lend on it - especially between Jan. & April.

[@EricHorchuck]

@@tadroid3858 "that's only a couple of years" yes... If every single penny went to paying it off. In reality it would take much longer. Hey, I really would LOVE to try that sim so I hope someone figures it out but I doubt it. Take care, -E 🏁

[@tadroid3858]

@@EricHorchuck I was just thinking about all those "racing experiences" available using real race cars. This seems much less risky and potentially less maintenance intensive. We'll find out soon enough. I'm not in position to afford that risk.

[@1xRacer]

Almost as much as simcube active pedals

[@jerryjoe88]

I canceled my PS VR2 pre order, & am gettin this instead.

[@crashmaster26]

I've tried triple projectors, and I've tried triple 4k 50 inch monitors, ... the triple 4k 50 inch set up is FAR superior to anything a projector can ever hope to become.

[@stevenhaggar132]

however the dynamic lighting i created via projection cant be matched .. actualy I havnt seen anything close ( my last vid is a good example)

[@MOAB-UT]

Agree 100%.

[@MOAB-UT]

@@bad1971nova Have you played Forza Horizon 5? I run it on my Radeon 470 and it plays great. The 4090 would likely be a little smoother but overall no complaints. Graphics are on point.

[@MOAB-UT]

@@bad1971nova Just play it with a Dual Sense controller (PS5.) Works with Steam. I just don't know how to start the game with it. I sit there for like 5 minutes pushing a bunch of buttons until it decides to start. The little rubber button does not launch it like others say it should. If you like more race-centric, you will like Forza Motorsport. It's coming out soon. Though the Hot Wheels area in F5 is awesome. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqXVgnmIpLxoaNk&ab_channel=Destin Cheers.

[@gageboy14]

I ditched my monitor setup after I tried the Hp reverb VR headset. Once you go VR you never go back.

[@raisin39]

I have been using on line sim racing for years. Many sim drivers are excellent and would be well studied for real racing. Teams didn't take sim training seriously and now F1 drivers are racing on platforms like F1 2021. In addition the new feed back wheels are giving more realistic feed back in the games. Great presentation on sim racing.

[@31chase92]

No f1 driving is taking the f1 game serious. That game is an arcade not a sim

[@VeniVidiAjax]

@@31chase92 it’s not a arcade, nor a sim…it’s a bit in between. Prefer ACC for actual simming.

[@raisin39]

@@31chase92 when we went to the moon we used a sim. We train this way before the final action. Prefect before a mistake.

[@MOAB-UT]

Right and for $50! Forza 5 looks great and plays great.

[@ttt69420]

No one takes it seriously. It's garbage. It's good for learning tracks and thats it. The only reason anyone takes is semi-serious is because racing is so dogshit now.

[@brazenbunnies]

The price is also a realistic simulation of owning an F1 car

[@thandontantiso3744]

2-3 MILLION POUNDS. I knew it was going to be expensive but God damm. It's this or buying a house and a couple of sport cars or a few super cars

[@lukaslanger5068]

Thats incredibly cheap. For an F1 team, one weekend of testing is probably close to that or even more.

[@ehjhey7]

@@lukaslanger5068 This exactly. It's relative. Not long ago (literally) HAAS would have done very well with this kind of setup

[@crashmaster26]

3 million and a $50 game you download on the internet had better graphics by FAR... #smh

[@lukaslanger5068]

@@crashmaster26 You can play your $50 games all day long, these people develop and set-up racecars. They are not there for the fancy graphics. Its simply not needed

[@crashmaster26]

@@lukaslanger5068 based on your statement it's clear you're one of those people that has no clue what they are talking about and yet do it proudly. I wish intelligence was common and not uncommon. #smh

[@rfratelli]

Can they simulate a pitstop with only 3 wheels? this might be what Ferrari needs :)

[@paulmcmahon99]

Where are the lateral g-forces? With a long corner, seems to me you'd need to actually tip the cockpit to make that feel anything close to reality. That cockpit seemed barely tip at all.

[@Livlifetaistdeth]

Now taking applications for new best friends. Criteria: Have one of these in your house.

[@RacingUnleashed]

you are welcome to visit us :)

[@epicsimracing]

All this is amazing for sim racing too. Such exciting times!

[@MOAB-UT]

Just buy Forza Horizon 5 and a Dual Sense controller and you'll be happy. A new version is coming out that will be more racecentric.

[@Fluterra]

The price is nuts. They have relegated themselves to the F1 teams only at this price.

[@michaelb6808]

2-3 million is a lot of money, yet I still can see how a manufacturer or race team can justify the cost when you look at it over the life of ownership. I think the part that surprised me the most was the enormous size of the traction loss platform! Instinctually, I thought using a smaller base would be *_much_* easier to achieve ultra-low latency due to reduced mass & weight. Until I started really thinking about it and realizing because of it's size the motors won't require as much work or time to move it a greater distance... 🤯 Seriously great work by the engineers! Driving these incredibly powerful and agile racecars at qualy/race pace requires these highly skilled drivers to act purely on their instinct, because if you have to think about your next move you'll already be off track, or worse, crashing

[@bad1971nova]

Although my motion rig is not as advanced as this one. I still love mine. I plan on adding traction loss or even double traction loss in the future. There is a low profile traction loss kit out now, it's just the price of it is almost as much as I paid for all 4 actuators and the motors drivers etc. Still I am STOKED sim racing is moving in this direction it's really my only hobby and I cannot wait to see what comes next. I just hope moving forward, more game companies get on board with triple screen and VR support going forward. IMO it's a must for the most immersion. It blows my mind putting on a headset and actually feeling like you are in a car. 10 years ago I thought all this tech was way out of reach for me. It's come so far and become affordable, for the most part.

[@spiritchaser4337]

I also have 4 actuators and I’ve been having a blast since mid-2020. So much fun, I race with the system on, all-the-time. Scorpion Actuators here with a 65” OLED and 6 buttkickers, 5.1 Dolby Atmos, fanatec DD1, inverted pedals, formula carbon, Rseat N1 cockpit. Cost: 25,000 dollars, like my two beemers, I enjoy it everyday, every time I ride. NO REGRETS.

[@alexgee8712]

I'm just budgeting, does this simulator include only the rig? Or is the software included in the price?

[@Fastvoice]

According to the website it is "available as a turn-key solution, fully integrated to your environment. "

[@JohnStowers]

You didn't even ask what the latency was.

[@gageboy14]

Computer with a decent graphics card, a cheap home rig with a Logitec G29 wheel and pedals, Hp Reverb VR headset, F1 22 or Assetto Corsa and you get an outstanding racing experience for around $2000. That's what it cost me and a game like Assetto Corsa with mods you can keep adding to the experience.

[@Isweartolucifer]

*this is the stimulator mercedes should buy immediately*

[@garyrandall3059]

I'm going to order my Sim for Christmas 2072!!😅😅😅😂😂😂

[@daveg5857]

How much money would it save to replace the display system with a state of the art VR headset? I'll bet a lot.

[@davids9960]

Interesting. But I'm failing to see how this puts the driver under the cornering G forces that would be experienced, at say a corner like Parabolica. Also, what about 3D vision? That is crucial to being able to pick turn in points.

[@pavulon5000]

I think it's physically impossible to create sustained g-forces on a simulator. I can imagine maybe using seatbelts to pull the driver in certain directions to give the illusion but idk if that will be anywhere close to the real deal.

[@davids9960]

@@pavulon5000 Not that difficult actually, use gravity for 1G. Rotate to the sides for lateral forces and tilt front and rear for acceleration and braking. The tricky bit might be both together which requires picking the best point of rotation, Likely the seat bottom, the mass needs to be considered too. Full harness required. Add shakers for road input to the chassis, subwoofer drivers might work (minus the diaphragm). Above 1G requires much more in the form of long stroke rams that move very quickly. Toyota built a simulator in a warehouse that translate through a large horizontal area. As for 3D vision, googles are the only low cost answer currently. This thing would be fantastic for many road cars and historics of course! Now how about MotoGP?

[@blakebarrilleaux8073]

@@davids9960 maybe a jacket/harness combo that inflates/deflates at quick rates to mimic g loads?

[@MOAB-UT]

It doesn't. You are correct.

[@jpx1508]

I'm a believer in giving ourselves something we want for Christmas - and every Christmas being a success. Something this large requires adding some house space for the toy.... and something this conspicuous requires getting the wife an equivalent toy to keep the household balanced and smiling. This looks like a 4x cost project that takes some advance planning.

[@changen4125]

this is like 500k+ lol

[@MOAB-UT]

Just get Forza Horizon 5 my dude- you be happy.

[@Map71Vette]

What's interesting to me is that it really doesn't look like it's actually moving all that quickly or violently. I'm sure some of that is certainly based on driving style, but I'd be curious to know what the actual force/accel limits really are. There's no real way to simulate sustained multi-g forces while effectively "sitting still", but the brain does a surprisingly good job of filling in the gaps.

[@nednobody3253]

2 COOL Imagine having one in the Game room.

[@rodolphendessabeka8721]

One of your best videos. Great job.

[@ml8022]

Funny name you have 🤣

[@StreetComp]

So next time we’re all on lockdown for a year the FIA will have to FedEx one of these to every F1 driver 🤓

[@GenAvAviation]

DHL*

[@TheOfficialOriginalChad]

I really don’t understand why they don’t use an HMD, especially considering they could easily integrate it into a helmet. All this effort for it to be in 2D is a shame. $3,000,000 should buy 3D.

[@gelmir7322]

they still need to see the steering wheel.

[@whysoslow1999]

VR headsets supposedly have really bad latency, if that is true, that'd be why they dont use one.

[@TheOfficialOriginalChad]

@@whysoslow1999 they don’t have any worse latency than mid range gaming monitors… Stop spreading misinformation. You’re the scum of the internet.

[@ElementsMMA]

Aramco, Alpinestars, Stilo.. plenty of product placement going on here.

[@badgumby9544]

What a deal. I'll take two.

[@HootMaRoot]

Its not exactly cheap but I do remember not that many years ago the numbers of 50mill+ for lower end simulators being said, its amazing how much cheaper certain technologies are getting while older tech is getting so much more expensive

[@brien1254]

Full motion flight sims are around 5-10 million

[@limetimemusic]

I think we’re reaching the point where it becomes cheaper to just drive a real car.

[@cbdrift]

Until you have a wreck.... or 10.... or 20.....

[@DelacruzDigital]

nice add for the company hope they paid good money for it.

[@FrenchSe7en]

This: is the most realistic simulator. VR: Let me introduce myself and make your cinema screen obselete

[@ramyanthony4615]

I can smell the cockpit from here

[@oskar6661]

While I can't stand F1...let's see this applied to rally and then I'll be excited. :D

[@stevenhaggar132]

agreed zero latency rally... he thought that hurt, now add a violent rally heave motions see how it feels

[@alesksander]

@@stevenhaggar132 😁mine bones would be like jello☠

[@richardstock1]

Throw real weather, wind and temperature in there as well then you'll hone drivers senses as well.

[@stevenhaggar132]

somthing i have been actualy considering.. hehe, cant forget about environment

[@richardstock1]

@@stevenhaggar132 absolutely, it makes a massive difference to reaction times, concentration and overall ability..

[@stevenhaggar132]

the rig i created out of hard rubbish for free even has better dynamic lighting than anything I have seen. adding smells and weather cant be any harder.. ( i just posted a vid with the immersive lighting on my Hard Rubbish Rig ) check it out..

[@Calyx]

Commercially available. Just when I'm about to order one he drops the bombshell. 2 to 3 million pounds. Fuck me. 😭

[@RacingUnleashed]

order one from us ;)

[@mikel6989]

2 to 3 million....holy crap thats expensive, cool, but crazy expensive. I could have a fleet of cars for that.

[@RimfireAddicted70]

Waiting for this to be on Amazon's 12 month pay plan.

[@Simracing25]

looking to maybe work with you guys free if possible. I love sim racing as a passion and want to give my time and service to help with maybe installing these in the usa where i live. if not maybe do something on the sales side of things or tech support. just want to be part of the team

[@69kiyo69]

Did you consider to add monopost failures for ferrari simulator ? :D just to be accurate :D and now add wind blowers and closed up helmet :D

[@bennylloyd-willner9667]

Interesting video. I do think you should turn down the volume on the back(fore?)ground music. It is dramatic and impressive enough without it, and we who do not have English as our native tongue may have it harder (I do) to hear talking with the music as it is.

[@paulbuswell6566]

I race on my home rig exclusively in VR. For £2 to 3 Million you'd think it would have multiple overlapping polarized projectors with appropriate eyewear...Depth perception is a HUGE bonus in VR

[@ElementsMMA]

That kit is worth nowhere near 1 million, let alone 2-3 million. The only reason they can demand those prices is because of the prize money associated with F1. So to an F1 team, if the simulator can give them a slight advantage it can pay for itself. But away from F1, as far as what you are actually getting for your money, 2-3 million is an obscene joke which they should be ashamed of. For 1 million you could buy a Mclaren 720s, service and maintain it all year long, spend every weekend doing track days all over europe and still have enough change for an Exism VR5 F1 simulator.

[@stevenhaggar132]

agreed

[@gageboy14]

@Jonas Jonaitis You obviously have not tried VR or given it a chance. Your lap times will only improve with VR because of the immersion but you have to be honest with yourself and give it a chance. Screens compared to VR is like driving a model T to a Porsche.

[@formulavideos_9860]

@@ElementsMMA any clue why f1 drivers doesnt have this at home so they could train lol

[@AZWildk4t]

I’ll place my order after I win Mega Millions tonight

[@eamonahern7495]

Ash Warne looks just like the actor Aidan Quinn

[@M.F.Gamesta]

Why no driver's cockpit view? Not sold on this.

[@michaelsheedy]

Well, at least you don't die when you screw up.

[@baccattack]

If my lottery numbers ever come up....

[@motomark790]

Now make one for MotoGP!

[@HansGruberX1]

Would love to "Drive" one of those but i think its not really helpfull for F1 Teams. They want to test new Parts and Setups for hours and hours if possible and when you have an exhausting Simulator like that its actually bad isnt it?!

[@pihakamera]

Soon all f1 races can be simulated, no need to make tracks anymore.

[@tadroid3858]

Where does the line start?

[@dwaynemurphy8229]

I wonder how it is simulating grip, downforce, slip streams.

[@menscolognecraft66]

will this work with xbox one?

[@rockybass9764]

Just 2,000,000 - 3,000,000 pounds…… no problem. Honey!!! Where’s the Nuclear Credit Card???

[@F1SimulatorManiac]

I wonder what specs the pc has.

[@EricHorchuck]

Wow! I want one!!! Wait... How much? 😳

[@mcsuperfreak6759]

For what I know, immersion comes from never seing the end of the screen, and from that cockpit for sure you see it, which can drive to sickness since the image is compansating motion. How can you drive a GT car from a single seater cockpit? For sure not immersive. Also, 1:19 at Barcelona is not realistic model wise, a pro would do 1:15. Can't comment on latency

[@kidShibuya]

ffs... experts in comments never fail. Yeah its not as good as mario kart, we get it

[@LukeVesty]

It almost looks like the software is based on iRacing. Very similar visuals. Is it a custom version?

[@ehjhey7]

Some teams use a heavily modified engine from R factor, so it's not impossible

[@LukeVesty]

@@ehjhey7 indeed. Before I saw the video I would have assumed rfactor 2 but it does very much look like iRacing. Perhaps it can run on multiple software platforms. Or maybe it's using iRacing because of the recent W12 and W13.

[@MrThinlySliced]

@@LukeVesty Doesn't look like any iRacing overlay I'm familiar with in the top left of the image here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2makpyAdrahqLM - and I'm not aware of them licensing code/engine to others. At a guess it is indeed a modified rFactor2 probably custom car model / tyre model plus some laser scanned tracks.

[@scottmcqueen3964]

The use RfPro. Basically its the graphics of rFactor 1, but generally everything else is completely written by scratch in house.

[@aledmb]

a 21 was impressive, then he worked up and got a 19.0... good god, who can stand 5 minutes of conversation like that? how can a lap 2 seconds off pace (comparing to a probably really bad lap) be impressive?

[@khasmir666]

Would they accept one of my kidneys?

[@simpulse21]

For 3M I want to risk my life every time I get in...

[@krooked613]

Yeah but can it run No Hesi

[@balamacab]

looks like the software is rfactor pro....

[@thibaultleclerc6536]

Is it compatible with Forza horizon?

[@Dave062YT]

£2m and you dont even get to race anyone .I'll stick to my £3k rig thanks but an interesting watch

[@markwilliams5654]

No g force lol

[@phrtao]

I am surprised they don't use a VR helmet rather than that huge screen. Surely that would make it much more immersive and probably take less computing power to render.

[@nialljdoherty]

But can it porpoise

[@atlantic_love]

What does that even mean?

[@OSPerry]

Projection system... Well that is a major weak point.

[@crashmaster26]

Hardware looks great, graphics look like an absolutely pile of dog shit. I wouldn't use this sim if you gave it to me for free. I have 95% the same thing at home I built with less than $7k with VASTLY better graphics. Since we sense with our eyes more than any other sense, yes, graphics are important. I'll never understand why pro sims always skimp on this part #smh

[@atlantic_love]

Very good points. Yeah, I was watching this video and thinking about how washed out the graphics are.

[@stevenhaggar132]

agreed, I built mine out of rubbish cost me a whole ..nothing. and my dynamic lighting flogs their 4 mill job.. haha

[@MOAB-UT]

Sad. Forza 5 has far better graphics and it costs me $64.99! The feedback/latency is fine. These guys want to claim how great it is- would an LCD screen be that hard guys? Come on now. This honestly looks like a 1980's simulator you could play at any funplex with slightly better electronics. Step up or you will be passed by real quick. I think I could build a better simulator.

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

It doesn’t even have a halo. Pathetic

[@ElMoShApPiNeSs]

Unironically though. He's also not sitting low enough.

[@sanjithdesilva3711]

First

[@hamsamich9]

Get this man a trophy