This was one of the best reviews I've watched so far on the MDX Type S. Thank you
@darrylk8082 жыл бұрын
I like that you lie down in the back of SUV's. Giving a cubic foot number does nothing for me. Better to give the lengthxwidthxheight...
@tracerit2 жыл бұрын
Also would be helpful to mention your height as well. He ended up mentioning it later during the back seat though
@koji.m40142 жыл бұрын
@@tracerit 6ft1.
@AFCompany2 жыл бұрын
I love this blue interior. Wish it was available on every trim.
@fabulousprofound2 жыл бұрын
It's not even an option in Canada on any trim level because of supply shortages😫
@thomasgriego75152 жыл бұрын
Some possible feedback I would offer would be to have someone that is 5’ 10” or shorter sit in third row of any vehicle you review that has a third row. I am personally 510 and sit very comfortably in the third row of the new MDX. Majority of Americans are 5’10” or under and most people that will be sitting in a third row are guaranteed under 5’10”. I think this will provide a more realistic in their opinion on the third row of these types of vehicles. I love your videos.
@rrodak Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2024 Acura MDX Type S Advance a week ago. So far I love it and it is so fun to drive.
@acsnyder2 жыл бұрын
Man I’d love to test drive this beast of an SUV!
@2013new2 жыл бұрын
I have Acura MDX 2008. Better Acura, than me Acura, is only new Acura)
@MalcolmCir2 жыл бұрын
Now imagine if the engineers actually did optimize the SH-AWD for a "Trail" soft-road mode. It would be the most well-rounded vehicle in this segment. Or any other segment, for that matter...
@jackchn232 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t a Range Rover Sport check all those segments? Although more cost and less reliability?
@Jojoboogie2 жыл бұрын
@@jackchn23 without the 3rd row.
@jackchn232 жыл бұрын
@@Jojoboogie not sure what you mean, but a 3rd row is optional on Range Rover Sports. Not sure about the SVR models though.
@Jojoboogie2 жыл бұрын
@@jackchn23 exactly.. the MDX is offered off the lot as a 3 row SUV. Range Rover Sport costs more, less reliable as you said.
@rromancunard2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for share🙏🏻 Probably this is the new king of the middle/big suv.
@koji.m40142 жыл бұрын
Acura is doing some pretty amazing stuff in this generation. Wish Honda would consider bringing them to other markets.
@Colt.evans08242 жыл бұрын
I’d love to buy this car and I’m seriously considering it. The price tag of these vehicles right now are just crazy though! I have the money to buy it and I’m still second guessing it.
@hazard5022 жыл бұрын
What an engaging and entertaining review. It was just fun watching you thrash this MDX down a winding backcountry road. This was what I was hoping the Type S variant would be - a blast to drive while being composed. I could do without the gimmicky button transmission shifter but otherwise this looks like a win to me.
@aalchian55622 жыл бұрын
When using traffic assist, if the car comes to a complete stop it will resume forward travel on its own if the traffic it is following begins moving within about 4 or 5 seconds. If the halt is longer than that, then the driver must take anction to resume forward movement. This is the same procedure as on the regular MDX.
@stevenedwards27062 жыл бұрын
Interesting, the second row moves forwards and backwards. So if you move the second row forward a bit you might get and inch or two more legroom in the 3rd row. I do appreciate that it may still be tight for taller people.
@JasonMilesComic2 жыл бұрын
That blue leather looks great !
@VG22.2 жыл бұрын
Now, this is my new favorite "affordable" sports suv.
@michaelp.34852 жыл бұрын
$72,000 is NOT affordable . Unless you are a member of the rich who are screwing over the middle and lower class in this country.
@VG22.2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelp.3485 lol dont you see the quotation marks on the word affordable in my comment you ignorant man? It is not stupid expensive like the bmws, mercs, audis or Porsches. Also another ignorant comment by you "member of the rich screwing over middle and lower class" really man ? lol You think all rich people wake up in the morning with this mindset LOL. Michael relax man... dont take every comment to your heart.
@wongchai8072 жыл бұрын
Huge acura fan but the type s isn't "affordable" the base yes but not 67-72k pricey but still cheaper than the germn counter parts.
@VG22.2 жыл бұрын
@@nickcrawford4953 do you see the quotation marks ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? around the word affordable? do you???????
@wanglee212 жыл бұрын
Finally Acura's Type S is making some right moves.
@ianandrews59882 жыл бұрын
Great to see a review with some excitement in the vehicle. Looks like a winner for Acura.
@mateosmithy56682 жыл бұрын
Finally! A 3.0 Turbo is where this vehicle belongs! Honda’s 3.5 is very good, but this is better!
@MrSamPhoenix2 жыл бұрын
Acura has a winner here.
@regan83722 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful beast, and that blue leather is slick. Acura is on a roll!
@JulezWinnfield2 жыл бұрын
Just like butter.
@robertmurdock75302 жыл бұрын
Great review, Ryan! Clearly you had some fun and explained all the systems very well. Now, all I have to do is convince my wife that the vehicle is comfortable, and order one! 👍🏻🔥
I'm hearing a lot of positive things about this in different reviews!
@leonbaptiste22722 жыл бұрын
Seeing that the NSX is going to be discontinued they should’ve used the twin turbo from it detune it to 365 hp and use it for the advanced type S and leave the twin scroll for the base type S
@purpleiris6489 Жыл бұрын
Two days ago I was at the Acura dealership ordering the options for my 2023 MDX type S. You can order a Tire and Rim plan that will cover anything happening to your tires or rims. I figure with prices always going up it's better to lock tire and rim cost now. Also to you can order a doughnut and or a full size spare. Granted there is no designated space for a full size spare but if you like me there are times when I have come home on a Friday and not leave the house again till Monday only to come out and find one of my tires on a flat. I had a full size spare right there in the garage to roll with. So I ordered both a doughnut and a full size spare,cause you just never know. Since my MDX has the off white leather seats I order the seat protection that if they cant get a stain out they will replace the seat.
@davidy9322 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I bought one recently….absolutely love it!
@atmartens2 жыл бұрын
Love the review! It’s awesome it’s your top choice. People are giving Genesis to much of a pass to quickly.
@ejtriance87652 жыл бұрын
The blue interior 🤤🤤🤤
@elvispink47922 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan and DST team for the review apart from the car great visuals.
@binzhao7445 Жыл бұрын
I have always had a question to ask: how come most, if not all reviewers never mention the fact that you can slide the second row seats a little forward so that there is more room for the third row, so that it is more usable? It to me seems to be a really important feature. I know you mentioned the second row can be moved forward. But without indication that can be a solution to the limited third row knee space. Even better, you can adjust sitting position of both first and second row so that all passengers can have a pleasant longer trip.
@suzysparks2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have a ‘22 MDX A-Spec that I’m trading in for a Type S Advance in a couple of weeks. Just waiting for it to come in. I’m like a kid at Christmas. I can’t wait!!!
@K03sport2 жыл бұрын
So, what was wrong with the A-Spec? It has the tech pkg (because Acura wants you to buy two packages), so what is the A-Spec missing? Power? Sh-SWD? Given the market, you'll prob not lose on the trade assuming the markup on the Type-S isn't absurd.
@suzysparks2 жыл бұрын
@@K03sport the A-Spec is great, don’t get me wrong. But once you drive the Type S, it’s puts a silly ass grin on your face. In my case, I’m not losing on the trade, and my dealer is selling at MSRP. I am getting the Type S Advance, so it is an upgrade from what I have in the A-Spec.
@RedlineGaming0072 жыл бұрын
Why MDX Type-S gets positive reviews but not the TLX Type-S, it's basically the same powertrain and faster on the TLX.
@drivescene67472 жыл бұрын
Most of the reviews of the TLX Type S are positive, the complaints are the tight back seat, no 360 cam (in the US), it’s the heaviest and it’s the slowest in the segment. The MDX Type S is the best Acura on sale today and is packed with great luxury, tech and a lot of “Acura firsts.” There’s not much to dislike about the MDX.
@limitedreach44462 жыл бұрын
@@drivescene6747 Well said!
@drivescene67472 жыл бұрын
@@limitedreach4446 Thank you!
@JTMoodie22 жыл бұрын
@@drivescene6747 you beat me to it, once again lol
@drivescene67472 жыл бұрын
@@JTMoodie2 lol great minds
@Offensively-normal2 жыл бұрын
I had a great time watching. Thanks. The car does have stop and go. But if you are stoped more than 3 seconds you need to hit the button or tap the throttle.
@nathanconner32922 жыл бұрын
Very good video. You took your time and explain the interface system. Which other videos don’t do
@GoBrand0n2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for One but I end up buying 2022 X3 Competition in Brooklyn Grey..I love everything about it 😍
@drivingsports2 жыл бұрын
We're filming an X3 M440i right now and that thing is hella fun to drive.
@GoBrand0n2 жыл бұрын
@@drivingsports thank you sir
@AlaskanSnowLeopard2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the X3. The X3 and the MDX does not necessarily compete with each other, but one of my co-worker did bought a X5 M competition in bright red color, and that thing is a Beauty and the Beast.
@GoBrand0n2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanSnowLeopard thank you
@Kiss__Kiss2 жыл бұрын
Ryan, It's interesting that you just mentioned, you would pick this over the GV80. I remember the video you made with the Acura SH AWD vs the Audi A6/7 about a decade or so ago. and the Acura Won that race(Sure, there was a round 2 lol). Jess was in that video I believe.
@drivingsports2 жыл бұрын
We bit off way more than we could chew for that one... and somehow managed to pull it together. Lol.
@Kiss__Kiss2 жыл бұрын
@@drivingsports It's okay. I have equally enjoyed both, your funny and knowledgeable videos throughout the years!! Part of your charm, Ryan. It's what keeps us all, coming back..
@ruturaj472 жыл бұрын
I was really excited for type S MDX till I heard about CX-90 with RWD and inline 6. Great review regardless, hope I get to see on CX-90 too when that comes out.
@sandilemajiya78312 жыл бұрын
I have never had of this vehicle cause it is not available here in South Africa. I have never seen its review as well. But this car is amazingly beautifully.
@jonwear97912 жыл бұрын
Great reviewing and test drive so positively.
@eddienardo2 жыл бұрын
And now, what is the better choice X5 or MDX?
@JayLato2 жыл бұрын
My 2012 MDX handles amazing under full throttle I wonder how much better this is.
@stevehinkley9099 Жыл бұрын
Actually smart the system makes you initiate adaptive cruise from a stop (versus going on its own). It's the only way to confirm you are paying attention and ready to steer/drive.
@Pinoyako117052 жыл бұрын
A lot of piano black, wonder how that's gonna age versus if that was aluminum trim instead or an open-wood pore
@Gdsamplify2 жыл бұрын
Really wish these were sold in RHD in Australia
@UnobtaniumsQuickReviews2 жыл бұрын
Did your 0-60 of 5.8 seconds eliminate the 1ft roll-out time of 0.3 seconds, or is that a "raw" 5.8 seconds that would likely result in a 5.5 if measured at any dragstrip? Thank-you!
@Novilicious2 жыл бұрын
Is that a blue interior or is my screen playing tricks on me? Deciding on MDX Type S and the new Infiniti QX60. Both great cars from Nippon.
@jerrymyahzcat2 жыл бұрын
It’s Not a Crossover. It’s an all new platform and is a full SUV. A Crossover by definition is a lifted vehicle based on a passenger car platform “crossing over” between a car and an SUV. It just needs 18” or 19” rims and AT tyres. Pity we don’t get it here in Australia. It’s a Honda - of course it’s amazing. They always have been. The only thing I can’t stand is the infotainment screen sticking out of the dash rather than built in. I hate that. Also the rear seats are heated, they should be cooled too same as the front. Love the blind-spot monitoring on the inside not out on the mirrors. If it was good off-road - I’d want one. Pity you didn’t take it on some gravel roads.
@aesthetixdesigns2 жыл бұрын
You've done two reviews of the MDX and still haven't mentioned one of the coolest features... the middle fold down seat in the 2nd row is actually REMOVABLE converting it into Captain's chairs. (Unless they've changed something)
@sunshinemodels12 жыл бұрын
I like mine so far.. surprised the front fenders are actually plastic.. not metal like the doors
@shadowpapito Жыл бұрын
Thank you, great job.
@stevenromero17232 жыл бұрын
Very Luxury
@kuyaboyred2 жыл бұрын
Those gas prices though.
@mrgold35912 жыл бұрын
I love the MDX Type-S; but, very hard to give up my 321hp 19 MDX hybrid for it. It was only $1500 to add the sport hybrid tech to the 17-20 MDX. I would pay an additional $1500 if Acura did the same for the MDX Type-S for +420hp, $420tq, and +21 mpg always.
@oldtwinsna83472 жыл бұрын
It is very odd this 3.0t (or a slightly detuned/lower displacement turbo V6 variant) has not been paired to a hybrid drive system that Honda had proven with the MDX and RLX platforms, which were offshoots from the NSX system. Not sure why they have squandered this huge advantage away from the model lineup.
@bg6932 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@AmitSharma-yb2ux2 жыл бұрын
Yup i was expecting hybrid type s mdx
@jsfbay12 жыл бұрын
Can you make Apple CarPlay take up the entire infotainment display? Or are we always stuck with what's probably music track info on the right 1/3rd of the display?
@bxtremefitness5428 Жыл бұрын
What is the maximum ground clearance?
@jsfbay1 Жыл бұрын
How was your legroom in the 2nd row? Could you have moved the seat forward a couple inches and still been comfortable? If so, then obviously this would help with 3rd row comfort considerably, but no help regarding headroom (2:50). It looks like that was possible (3:25) Thanks for the review!
@dmitriykravchenko77062 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review.
@Andrew-zx9wx2 жыл бұрын
Sweet ride, engine sounds aggressive, love Honda/Acura products. Sidebar: the gentleman in the black Acura jacket reminds me of Gary from Team America 🤭
@HotHeadCJ2 жыл бұрын
Do you think the Ridgeline will get this motor?
@tigrantashjian13052 жыл бұрын
What road did you drive on. It looks fun
@hycinth53712 жыл бұрын
Where is this? The road is appealing, HWY name please?
@eketony2 жыл бұрын
I’d add a lil change and get LX600 instead. True body on frame constructed beast
@jamesmitchell92032 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, starting at $87K plus, plus, plus. No way!
@MartinLisius2 жыл бұрын
Well done, Ryan!
@ShakerCherukuri2 жыл бұрын
Looks like you disabled the idle stop? It stopped the engine in traffic assist for me. Had to press throttle to get it to start and go.
@drivingsports2 жыл бұрын
I think we were still in Sport mode which disables it automatically. (IIRC)
@jsfbay12 жыл бұрын
Ryan, I really enjoyed this review - the positivity absolutely transfers to the viewer :-) Question - why doesn't anyone but the German's put a moving map on the LCD gauge cluster? Or maybe someone else does? It seems like a no-brainer. Although I guess with the Heads Up display perhaps it's not entirely necessary. Thanks for an entertaining review!
@drivingsports2 жыл бұрын
I love the moving map in the BMWs. I think others don't do it just so they're not copying that design language, perhaps?
@jsfbay12 жыл бұрын
@@drivingsports - Yeah, I don't know. Audi does it too. I thought maybe it was patented but I'm not sure that kind of thing can be patented. Thanks for the reply.
@bikingmoments2 жыл бұрын
They built the NSX super car, and totally gave up the fancy sport hybrid AWD! What a pity…
@drivescene67472 жыл бұрын
They’re skipping hybrid and going straight to EVs
@Jermigggricoooo2 жыл бұрын
EVs
@jameslee52372 жыл бұрын
You specifically mentioned road noise in the standard mdx review. Can you comment if that’s any different on the type-s?
@drivingsports2 жыл бұрын
Hard to say since we drive then on different roads.
@sayedmuhibulhasan68492 жыл бұрын
Better than so-called Audi,Mercedes Benz SUV
@Tully36742 жыл бұрын
So...what makes this better then a Genesis GV80? Like the MDX very much, but at $72K, I'm questioning its value. Maybe a top of the line Telluride or Palisades is worth considering?
@DM-xt3rl2 жыл бұрын
The Air Suspension is a big deal……..The GV80 does not have that. They both are similarly priced. An air suspension on a vehicle under $80K puts this vehicle ahead of the GV80. Not to mention the GV80 does not have wireless Apple CarPlay.
@iamthedutchbro2 жыл бұрын
This thing will last 300,000 miles with regular maintenance. Does Genesis even have dealerships yet?
@rdmz1352 жыл бұрын
@@iamthedutchbro don't hyundai/kia offer 7 year warranties? they probably aren't at Honda reliability levels yet, but they aren't far behind
@bradleyscarreviews2 жыл бұрын
@@iamthedutchbrothis engine hasn’t been proven yet. Stop talking out your head.
@tonychau19832 жыл бұрын
@@rdmz135 warranty is useless if they don't honor it.
@jonathancortes86572 жыл бұрын
ACC resumes on it's own when stopped less than 3 seconds, otherwise a little tap on the gas resumes it.
@jsfbay1 Жыл бұрын
I don't suppose that there is a moving map on the MID? What vehicles besides Audi have this, and what is the big deal with not doing it? It just makes it that much safer to have the map right in front of me. Yes, I know, the turn-by-turn stuff can be on the head-up. Final question - can the artificial engine sound be turned off completely?
@tymom9313Ай бұрын
I want this car sooooo bad!!
@banderson19792 жыл бұрын
Where was this filmed? Eburg?
@banderson19792 жыл бұрын
I read the description, Napa. ;)
@GarmentofPraiseSewing2 жыл бұрын
Royalty free music to test the sound of those speakers
@project.dfilms4232 жыл бұрын
👍🏻 Acura
@vipergt852 жыл бұрын
I love my mdx type s fun to drive
@Kiss__Kiss2 жыл бұрын
72K?? Wow!! Yes, here I go, lol That's Macan/SQ5/X4 M40i Money for me.. Reason why I say that is, I don't need a third row. Or a second row to be honest. (See: Empty Nester). With that being said, I do like the interior. Nicely laid out, with loads of tech/comfort features. In that price range, It should have another 25-50 hp. 0-60 in 5.85 seconds(Although numbers don't necessarily tell the whole story) is slow for a $70k vehicle. Exceptional review as always, Ryan.
@bg6932 жыл бұрын
You can tell you’re not shopping in this segment or even the segment of the cars you mentioned. Good luck!
@AlaskanSnowLeopard2 жыл бұрын
Those cars does not even compete with this car. The closest one that the MDX Type S would compete with is The Porsche Cayenne and 3 rows X5 which will probably cost way more when it's similarly equipped. You wouldn't b cross Shopping a three-row SUV with a tiny little CUV, because if you are then you might as well compared it to a $70k Corvette.
@tonychau19832 жыл бұрын
All that extra money and its only a little bit faster than a pilot
@AlaskanSnowLeopard2 жыл бұрын
@@tonychau1983 I do agree with you that it is not all that much faster than a Honda Pilot, especially for the price of you're paying. But I think there's more to it than just the speed alone when buying a cars like the MDX Type S. If you're looking for a 0-60 SUV Beast, I would say look at the Grand Cherokee Trackhawk. Otherwise you can also look at the BMW X5 M Competition for an all-around SUV. I believed the two vehicles that I just mentioned does not have a third-row option on the specific trim.
@tonychau19832 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanSnowLeopard trackhawk 100k? Me personally ill stick with a pilot and buy a gr86 for a toy car. Unless i have some Porsche money to play with
@mallninja122 жыл бұрын
So could you have scooted the second row seat forward to a point where you "would have" had comfortable leg room up there, and then had ample knee room in the third row???
@drivingsports2 жыл бұрын
No, it has to go back to "lock" into position.
@noobwow20092 жыл бұрын
Those thin sidewall tires give me 😱 I got sidewall bubble for last 3 years. I have to change my wheel from 17 inches to 16 inches ;(
@David-tf3zr2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to finally see the Silver/Blue interior combo, however, I’m very disappointed in the infotainment though and the fact that you can’t customize the screens with the menus such as navigation full screen and being able to switch between the main screen and tachometer screen like in Audi, BMW, or Mercedes. It’s like Acura is 10 years behind everyone else.
@flippypippy18512 жыл бұрын
10 years behind everyone else?? Some bmws don’t even come standard with heated seats..
@bohan99572 жыл бұрын
$72,050 before destination & delivery.....good lord
@minipandora222 жыл бұрын
Is that leather blue??
@drivingsports2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@R3AP3R7182 жыл бұрын
Had a bad experience with continental tires on a brand new Honda vehicle, at about 10k miles the tire was pealing...chuncks of tires just falling off
@TheAnonymous9162 жыл бұрын
Acura missed the mark with the non-touchscreen. Lexus customers was extremely dissatisfied with their non-touchscreen and received numerous criticism, that they finally brought back the touchscreen in their new models. Seems like Acura is a few years late with the touch pad. Bring back the touchscreen and move the screen closer to the driver. What a bummer.
@jamesmitchell92032 жыл бұрын
It's fantastic and sooo much easier to use than the Lexus version. My wife has an RX350 and I literally can't use the trackpad, Acura's version is very easy and intuitive to use. I really thought that would be the thing that I didn't really like about this car, but I liked it after 5 minutes of playing with it. If you touch the track pad in the relative position of the icon you are trying to activate, you never even have to move your finger to use and you don't have to reach to hit the touchscreen.
@EEDad4012 жыл бұрын
The seats look rather spartan compared to the ridiculous Infinity's leather interior. I prefer the MDX seats.
@Aikynbreusov2 жыл бұрын
It's called "kaizen".....which means the continuous cycle of improvement....that's why Japanese car manufacturers don't do sudden jump on design and engineering
@cruishall2 жыл бұрын
I'm tempted...
@chrisa.81752 жыл бұрын
Who buys a type s for off roading ??? Who would buy a super sport suv amd not know this is a sport car in a suv. Like porsche etc.. i am shock you would have to say it..! Anyway.. i want one !!
@erbolattasnim43422 жыл бұрын
Acura Super!!!!!
@Jermigggricoooo2 жыл бұрын
I wish the Azurite Blue make it to the other colors not just Lunar Silver and Tiger Eye
@android-ud2nf2 жыл бұрын
The fuel economy is embarrassing considering a larger, les aerodynamic, more powerful Ford F-150 gets 23 mpg with its larger 3.5 ecoboost v6. Cmon Honda!!!!
@limpunsing2242 жыл бұрын
It looks good, but terrible fuel economy With the heightening gas prices, families will hesitate to buy this
@leobuckey2 жыл бұрын
They moved the battery for better weight distribution 🥴
@comeconcon5692 жыл бұрын
Acura SUVs are better-looking than Lexus ones from my own perspective.
@beri2322 жыл бұрын
Yes but not as dependable
@RichardJoashTan2 жыл бұрын
@23:00 "and that's okay" because I will buy a fully loaded MDX Type S Advance anyway.
@BMBangladesh2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great review. No available spare tire is a deal breaker for my parents who is in the market for a luxury suv. Thanks again for all the leg work.
@ALMX5DP2 жыл бұрын
I believe it’s available, just not on the Type-S.
@jamesmitchell92032 жыл бұрын
That's what roadside assistance is for.
@yippie68622 жыл бұрын
It's surprisingly not that fast. I was expecting 0-60 in the 4.8 - 5.2 second range.
@DavidTschoepe Жыл бұрын
I want one.
@RichardVac2 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@Paa3752 жыл бұрын
For $72M I would live in it
@m0t0rhead2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I enjoyed your presentation. I feel it was complete and well thought out. As far as my opinion on the vehicle, I test drove the 2023 Type-S Advance and I liked a lot about it. The items that I think they should change are the top speed limiter of 110 MPH. Other SUVs in this segment are 130-140 MPH. For a Type-S, that’s pretty disappointing and was a horrible decision on Acura’s part. The other iteam (which isn’t a deal breaker) is the middle seat fold down arm rest for the second row. Sitting back there, I noticed how low it was for my elbow. They should find a way to raise that to an even height for comfort. Side note, they should also offer an all gloss black wheel option. Outside of that, I think its a huge step forward for Acura. Let’s not talk about current interest rates of 5.5% at it’s lowest. Considering I have a GMC SUV at 2% and a Shelby at 2.5%, that’s horrible. I suppose we can thank the current administration.