Off-Road SUV Shootout: Land Cruiser vs. Defender vs. Grenadier Trialmaster

[@drivingsports]

There is a lot of concern about the payload numbers we report in the video. The numbers we give are from the federally-mandated max payload stickers that are affixed to vehicles in the USA. These are the numbers that are accurate per the specific trims we're testing, accounting for accessories and trim changes. You can see the Defender sticker here: instagram.com/p/DCsB2-bTTDs/?img_index=1

[@Land_Raver]

@@drivingsports The Defender numbers seem to match what I've seen in the past.

[@flamesfan2635]

Love your reviews and especially this comparison of 3 of the vehicles I'm cross shopping! I've seen the door stickers on the Defender too. The numbers seem off when compared to the GVWR. The GVWR is what the DOT is going to go by when determining if a vehicle is overloaded. ....any chance you could get that Defender to a scale and get a curb weight?

[@mfreidberg]

Defenders have an odd way of showing GVWR versus “max weight of cargo and passengers should not exceed…” Apparently LR calculates “max weight” by multiplying 165 lbs times the number of seats in the vehicle. 5 seats (like my 110 and the one you tested) get 825 lbs; 7-seaters show 1,155. BUT that’s not the max it can carry per GVWR. My GVWR is 6845 lbs. I took my 110S (P300 smaller engine, no hybrid battery, but I added rock sliders) to a truck scale and it weighed 5,440 lbs. So that leaves me 1,405 lbs, not 825. No idea why LR provides that 825 number.

[@scandinavia6271]

@@mfreidberg Exactly - my Defender 110 is packing 800-900 kg. If the number circulated in this test is true - then 4 adults going hunting/fishing/skiing can not bring any equipment what so ever! Roughly the same situation for the Grenadier. Clearly, that is not the case!

[@billybobbob3003]

my 2014 honda crv is better for adventures more reliable k24 engine lol.

[@Michael_Fiore]

Ineos sales employee here at the Grenadier dealer in CT. Your description and walk through of the Grenadier was great, but quick thing to note about the lockers: you mentioned wishing there was a button or way to disable everything once you're finished off roading, and that does sort of exist! If you want to disengage all the lockers at once, you can actually just use the mechanical lever for the center locker and bring it back to any left position (either 4 low or 4 high). That will disengage all 3 lockers simultaneously, and typically they do disengage almost immediately, however the way it works with the Grenadier is there are wheel sensors on each wheel to track the wheel rotation that controls the indicators on the tell tale display. Those wheel sensors normally take a few rotations in order for the sensors to display the lockers are disengaged through the indicators which is why they'll flash for a little bit, but as soon as they are disengaged that process is normally very quick and you immediately feel the difference in the way the Grenadier turns/gets traction. Hope this helps, and thanks for the awesome review!

[@AvalonEndures]

As a disabled vet, I can't afford any of these vehicles. But I can watch a video and live through you guys! The Land Cruiser stole my heart!

[@K03sport]

....me too so I would look at a used (5+ yo) land rover and make it my new hobby. Same with the Lexus. A 2016 VW Touareg V6 (Gen 3) can be found all day long used and keep up with these 3 with a comfortable interior, so there's that option too.

[@AvalonEndures]

@K03sport I worry about repair costs with those vehicles. I've heard bad things about Land Rover. Not sure about the Lexus though. Which one are you specifically talking about? You seem very knowledgeable.

[@mononeo]

If I win the lotto I will track you down and buy you one :) Thanks for being a vet.

[@AvalonEndures]

@@mononeo that is the most romantic things anyone has said to me! If you buy me one, then we will hit a trail and do cool shit and I will grill every night and tell random military stories. They may not be entertaining stories, but YOU WILL get stories!

[@mortensenvick5711]

@@AvalonEndures I'm rooting for you guys. Everyone should help each other to reach their dreams.

[@imagesbirds5066]

I really love the Landcruiser!

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

Yeah it's nice I just hate how from the side they literally copied the full size Bronco if you blow your eyes

[@iamgermane]

The Grenadier has manual steering???

[@VladFilipT]

As a resident of an EU country, I had the chance to see the Ineos Grenadier quite early on. Trust me, this car is an absolute tank. Manufactured in France at a former Smart factory, the Grenadier is made by Ineos, a British company, doing everything possible to create a super, super, super solid vehicle. So, if you have the chance, don’t hesitate to get your hands on this dinosaur-cars like this simply aren’t made anymore. And as for the technical side, believe me, the latest-generation BMW engines powering it are incredibly reliable.

[@johnmckenna4256]

He never learned about the vehicle before he tested it, He winged it, It was the only one he felt necessary to floor the gas pedal in the mud.

[@amarrao95]

Except for the carbon build-up…

[@jimsulemani5845]

Jim here from Crown Ineos St Pete FL. I am one of the Sales Ambassadors for the Ineos Grenadier. Great Video! Ineos is coming with an update to disable the over speed warning in the near future but for the mean time there is a quick fix. You can go into general settings, select CCI favorites and select ISA (intelligent speed assist) . That will set your FAV button on the bottom control panel. When pressing that it will bring you straight to the over speed warning section on the infotainment screen and simply select it off - a two step process but simple enough. You can also go into the acoustic settings and select the warning sound to be low which won’t be as loud of a click click sound if you forget to turn it off. Hope that helps and gets you to consider putting yourself in the Grenadier! Here to help best I can and feel free to reach out if anyone is interested. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone!

[@gsj-66]

Just a safety note...one of my buddies was carrying his spare wheels/tires in his old Range Rover Classic (probably about the same weight as in this video) several years ago; just like this-not secured. He was just going down to his workshop 2 miles from his house. A lady slammed on her brakes in front of him and all those tires nearly killed him and destroyed both front seats, the center of the dash and the windshield. He was really lucky. Please secure your load even when going just a short distance or even a short course like this. Gravity is real!!

[@Peanutdenver]

I'm surprised they didn't secure the load. Even if you're just doing 10mph off road and a mishap takes place just one of those tires would do some pretty good damage to a person. Maybe he doesn't have much off road experience and a little common sense.

[@fabiena1787]

Strictly nothing to do with gravity. Call that inertia, momentum or whatever you like, but this has nothing to do with gravity (mass plays a role in both, but they are not the same thing at all).

[@klausroethel5961]

My compliments for a wonderful presentation and very good driving. I’ve been driving almost 60 years in all kinds of forest and jungles with all kinds of four by fours. Well done !!

[@gsj-66]

@@fabiena1787 I'm a History Major at University; Physics wasn't my forte.

[@BryanPike]

On the Grenadier, the stock steering stop has a nut which if you replace with a washer will improve turning radius by around 6 feet. It is designed like this to protect when overtly articulated on the trail.

[@Land_Raver]

I'm going to have to do that to mine.

[@blesperance]

@BryanPike - Can you take a video of that? Seems almost too good to be true?

[@rodgood]

I think changing a front axle u joint on the trail, is worse then taking a quick backup .

[@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451]

I doubt my 35x12.50 tires will clear at the point though 😀

[@Fr99763]

I am going to do that to mine. Thank you

[@projectwildearth]

Hi Ryan, great review! Good to see some weight in the back of them. Would be great if they were all on the same tyres to level things up but I know that's not as easy as it sounds and would probably require sponsorship of some sort. The Grenadier you have is very cool! Great to hear you enjoyed driving it so much. We love ours! We're actually on a 5 year trip across the world in one now towing a Patriot X3, which we live in. We set off from London in mid-July 2023 with our two young kids and we’re approaching 50000km. At least 70% of our journey has been off-road...

[@garronah]

Never seen someone so happy and willing to stop in the middle of a slippery obstacle and just lose ALL momentum time and time again quite the same way this dude does.

[@LordSothMajere]

I'll make a prediction: best luxury = defender Best offroader = Grenadier Best value = Land Cruiser

[@Gemini_0815]

It’s my guess as well, and it seems the categories were picked such that there’s a winner in each. However, I feel the Defender is better value because it has a much wider span of use.

[@jasonsmith1158]

Beast Allrounder………..DEFENDER ❤

[@jerrymyahzcat]

Defender for all categories. Hands down.

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

​​@@jerrymyahzcatand least reliable least articulating hands down LOL and I have a modern Rover on air suspension so I'm not talking smack I'm telling the truth. Land Rover thinks hey let's do things the most complicated computerized way possible why have solid axles and coil springs the way we did on the old Range Rover and we were so proud of the articulation in 1970😂😂 let's replace it with unreliable air system in a million computers so that the people who like to drive on the street a bunch they can handle so great and never take it off road. The new Defenders should have been what Grenadier turned out to be no brainer. Any REAL LR/ off roader knows this and for good reasons

[@Expedition_Tranquilo]

@@jasonsmith1158 until you folks can get the GWM Tank 500… and at half the price of the Defender…

[@NA0183]

You guys are killing it!! Best episode yet!!! Keep them coming 🔥 🔥🔥

[@ClassicSteelRC]

It's definitely the Land Cruiser for me! Great video comparison of all three rigs!

[@nevco8774]

I would never think twice - the Grenadeer is clearly standing out with its off roading ability. It just screams about it.

[@jamesmoline4411]

Well done, as always. Makes me glad I cancelled my Defender order and went with the First Edition Land Cruiser.

[@Pollyelliofficial45438]

I own a grenadier and the majority of reviews are people who just aren’t familiar with the systems. It outdoes the rest easily when you know what you’re doing in engaging and disengaging difflocks. Hill decent is easy to use, you just can’t use it with lockers on.

[@tillyfoxtrotter]

So true. Nearly every 'expert' reviewer has failed to understand the process and systems the Ineos has to engage lockers. The issue the Grenadier had additionally is its weight. All that commercial grade utility comes at a price - weight and fuel. Cannot have it both ways I suppose.

[@anthonyvanderstar1448]

If I'm not mistaken, ineos has a software update that permanently disables the speed warning but you need to take it to an approved ineos dealership to be installed. They can't install it over the air.

[@jacobgreenbough5678]

We need to see the Grand Cherokee Trailhawk vs the Defender. The Defender is all over KZbin, praised for its hardcore capability, while the Trailhawk is called a crossover. They both have unibody construction, four corner independent air suspension, 4-low, diff locks,… the GCT has ATs and a disconnecting sway bar too. The internet is missing this comparison!

[@drivingsports]

The biggest problem is that Jeep doesn’t have any Grand Cherokee Trailhawk in the press fleet right now. So we can’t even get one.

[@jacobgreenbough5678]

@@drivingsports that’s awful. Okay I’ll write to Jeep and if I ever drive up there you can use mine 👍

[@SpeedyNeo]

Honestly both should be classified as crossovers being on a Unibody frame.

[@jacobgreenbough5678]

@@SpeedyNeo agreed. But usually when people say crossover the attached connotation is soft roader. They may be unibodies that don’t beat Wranglers and Broncos but neither are soft roaders

[@scandinavia6271]

@@SpeedyNeo having Independent suspension does not make a car a “SUV” - then most cars would be “SUV”s - I assume you know what SUV is short for?

[@jonjones6583]

❤❤❤❤Landcuriser every time! Reliable, robust, reliable, robust ultimately, the best all round 4x4 period!❤❤❤❤

[@robertjohnston3658]

Excellent and comprehensive testing and commentary on and off road in real 4WD conditions and great coverage of the features, pluses and minuses on each vehicle. The best comparison I have seen world wide, so well done! Greetings from warm and sunny Western Australia 👍🏻😎

[@DrDankoff]

Can I love that the Grenny had to save the Defender. Cheers Sir Ratcliffe.

[@adamgodbold6923]

With the Grenadier, You have to be in low-range and Center diif, then you can engadge rear diff first, then front diff, in that order. If you take center diff out it will disengage front and rear diff too. On the slippy hill with the front diff error, you tried engadging the front diff before the rear diff was engadged, this caused the error you mentioned. You also cant use hill decent control with the front and rear diff engadged, it individually breaks each wheel, so this wouldn't work with front and rear diff engadged.

[@supernaturalself3577]

Amazing how narrating it can influence people's perspective.. I feel like he had to downplay how well the Land Cruiser had the least issues and actually did way better, but the narrator didn't want to make the others look worse.

[@chrismcdowell5515]

That’s exactly what I was going to say. It was pretty easy to see the Land Cruiser did the best yet had the worst conditions. Not to mention the defender will probably be broken within six months.

[@marcelmadaire9056]

Thanks for mentioning the whole 4cyl turbo/hybrid question. I have a 1958 with about 10,000km or 6,000 miles and the drivetrain is super smooth and powerful.

[@MrXerxes]

Bacon, Eggs, and an off-road shootout on Driving Sports... Oh yeah, Friday is off to a good start!

[@Doncan0823]

👌 Another great video. And finally someone decided to do a test with realistic weight in the vehicles.

[@WillHemphill-z1z]

The INEOS may say 14mpg but users including myself actually see around 18-20mpg.

[@tillyfoxtrotter]

Petrol? US or UK gallons? Meaningless without the parameters. My experience and from what I have read from owners is the diesel will struggle to average 24mpg UK. Short run stuff where it does not hit top gear and 20mpg is typical, long journeys on motorways below 60mph and you might get 27mpg but its rare. In short this vehicle is by current standards is pretty fuel hungry.

[@sunroomstudios8487]

Love this long form content. That Grenadier is 🔥🔥🔥

[@paulelledge8977]

I went with a Defender but i have it on 18" tires with KO2s which would have made this test better. Its a great combo of comfort and capability.

[@carlbeveridge384]

Best mod on mine. 18” Evo Corse and 275/70-10 Yoko MTs.

[@JohnSmith-wx9wj]

The tire and wheel situation is getting ridiculous.

[@paulelledge8977]

@@JohnSmith-wx9wj Yeah but it's a simple fix. You can get the 18"s factory but you need to upgrade the tires no matter what.

[@mfreidberg]

@@paulelledge8977You can’t get 18s from the factory any more. I have them (MY 2023), but now the smallest you can order is 19”

[@michealweathers4769]

As soon as I saw this test, I knew the Defender would not have equal tires to the other vehicles. Didn't have to watch more than 3 minutes and I could tell I was right. Garbage comparison.

[@dogbombballet]

The Defender would be my #1 choice. Current owner of a 2020 110 P400 SE with only 34,549 miles. Amazing feeling of the suspension.

[@dainolson7184]

Fellow seattleite here, personally its the LC for me and have one on order right now. Should be taking delivery in late December. I've been watching every episode and looking forward to more. Cheers

[@briancrossley1710]

I drive a Grenadier in the UK, it does not have 'overspeed warning' nor is it a legal requirement as you stated. To disengage front and rear lockers all you have to do is disengage the centre diff lock and it will automatically take care of the rest.

[@donzioldbuddy]

Great comparison actually off roading instead of just counting USB ports…

[@jaydabliu]

😅😅😅

[@jayabq11]

Great episode! The Grenadier is on my short list!

[@JavierCR25]

So the Land Cruiser looks great, is comfortable, great off roader, it’s reliable and will hold its value… no brainer there

[@azchris1979]

The concern on turbo 4s versus v8 is not the parts count. The fact is that you are asking more out of that smaller engine which will necessarily shorten life.

[@gabeielflores9635]

Viewing this videos from Honduras and hearing mention it is a pleasure and having a land rover defender in our family just give goosebumps And olso great video👌🏻

[@maxws5735]

For the grenadier, you actually don’t need any of the lockers for this trail. It’s just the way you drive made it difficult.

[@gabemiller9873]

Yep, stopping the momentum right at key spots. My 80 on 37's would love to show these rigs how to wheel. Open open for fun

[@Dallen112]

I’m surprised no one else mentioned that. He stopped as soon as he gained traction.

[@ElgenHansi]

He drives like that to stress the systems, and see how they manage! If he used momentum properly, every 4x4 vehicle with enough ground clearance would do this track, and then whats the point?

[@someguy9440]

bro he drives like that because he's channeling Ned Flanders.

[@rob5852]

I picked the Defender, love it!

[@FickleHead]

Grenadiers have been around for little more than a year and already dominating.

[@paulelledge8977]

This is still one of the best car review pages on youtube.

[@SigSayer]

Ryan I have watched your videos for years now. . This by far is the best one yet. Very professional and un-scripted review. Keep them coming.

[@8oliverraymond]

I picked the Lexus GX550 OT+

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

me to best value for the price

[@faheemabbas3965]

I guess the Land Cruiser (Prado) will leave America once again thanks to high prices. They never learn. We have the 4Runner! It makes the LC Prado irrelevant in America!

[@1GulFF]

Best choice 💯

[@ShockWaveGamings234fg321f]

Good bye engine

[@SD-ft6gs]

@@faheemabbas3965 the current US Land Cruiser 250 is the cheapest we have had in over 2 decades although it would be better deal for $7k less it is still a MUCH MUCH nicer truck than the boy racer incredibly ugly 4runner which is only $10k more with the exact same driving abilities... Point being it is not that overprice since it is for a different market segment (more classy versus more teenage testosterone.)... But still I do wish Toyota offered one cheaper trim at the same price as the 2025 4runner, lowered the price of the 4runner to what it should be $27k

[@titanx04]

Thanks for video, I must say you’re the only one happy with the storage of the prado, no flat floor is a big mistake.

[@joshknutson16]

INEOS is the best looking hands down

[@MikeFigge]

We bought a MY24 Defender 110 before we ever heard about the Ineos. I love the Defender, but wish we'd been able to test drive the Ineos before purchasing, though I might have held off on the Ineos for a couple years to ensure they work out all the bugs and demonstrate some market staying power. Great review all the same--thanks!

[@DavesIneosGrenadier]

If you stacked 3 tyres on top and one upright next to them on the Grenadier you would get all 4 in with the rear seat up.

[@2URLex]

Extremely well done video, Definitely can’t wait for you to get an LX700h Overtrail on this channel! The Land Cruiser did the best to me, took the torn up trail last and struggled the least with no over heating. Give the Defender the same tire will put it in the same league.

[@briangleeson1528]

I can see all three have some winning traits. I own a LC, and that is my favorite!

[@darrenjones3681]

I still can’t believe that tester think it fair to test different vehicles without fitting at least the same tire pattern it’s like the defender automatically has the handicap

[@livingstonekot757]

That Landcruiser looks beautiful....!!!!

[@zerochance8581]

Grenadier has the looks of an older Land Rover but built sturdy like an 80’s series LC. It be my pick for off-road expeditions. The LC ok for playing and the Defender for luxury and willing for it to be in the shop a lot with my BMW(sarc).

[@substitor]

them headlights make them look like a bunch of siblings

[@evoemperor3776]

Well to be fair all of them was born to compete with willy jeeps

[@substitor]

@@evoemperor3776 true

[@beaviccoon470]

Payload of the defender in the US seems very low as in the uk we can get defenders around 800+kg (1763lbs roughly) of payload capacity.

[@drivingsports]

That’s straight off the door sticker. (Weight limit stickers are required in the US and account for all accessories.)

[@christianamabile1083]

@@drivingsports That's a huge difference in payload. Wonder why the big difference?

[@drivingsports]

Quick search online indicates a VAST difference in capacities between what the documentation says and what the door sticker says in the US. But here we have to go with the door sticker. (Note: not all test vehicles come with documentation so we can't confirm what was in the manual.)

[@christianamabile1083]

@@drivingsports Interesting stuff. Appreciate it

[@JohnSmith-wx9wj]

​@@christianamabile1083 The UK gets more options on these vehicles than the US. One thing I'll note is that payload and towing standards are more strict by SAE (Society of American Engineers) than whatever the UK and Australia uses.

[@BravoActual4756]

A bit overly dramatic, as most are, regarding the Grenadier steering. Within a week it becomes second nature. Thus far our IG has been most capable, whether navigating mall parking lots or conquering off highway trails. Truning radius is indeed a valid complaint. Additionally the user interface is a bit slow. That being said it, has been an outstanding and always exciting vehicle to drive.

[@husshardan3511]

What size wheel and tire package did you have on the LandCruiser? I think it is important to note that the LC is made in Japan where the quality control seems to be much better than the made in Mexico Toyotas.

[@rodneyblanchard3308]

FYI, At 52:05 you misspoke and said it comes with a rear and front locker standard, instead of center and rear locker standard.

[@drivingsports]

Correction added. Annoying that I missed that obvious mistake. Thanks for pointing it out early though!

[@Neberheim]

I’m sure manufacturers don’t love airing down press cars, but I can’t imagine that LR or Ineos would be two that care. Why not test at a realistic PSI?

[@adamclater3068]

Leave the center diff locked in the grenadier while off road, you don't need to keep messing with it.

[@jerryfrench2981]

Exactly the same with the Toyota. As soon as I hit the dirt in my 300 the center locker is on & kept on till I hit the black top again.

[@jessemartinez8158]

How reliable is the Defender ? Any issues after a year ?

[@ertatta]

Killer comparison! That Toyota is like the Swiss Army knife of the bunch. My lustful senses though have me drooling over the Grenadier! I really appreciate all the hard work that went into this production, bravo!!

[@BryanPike]

I bought the Grenadier as the classic Defender I never bought. But the LC would have been it otherwise. I had a 2006 Highlander that I put 269,000 on original motor and tranny. Just replaced front end. I am not up to date on what the Toyota build quality issues the peanut gallery is talking about, Prado related.

[@dave206p3]

Tell me again what size tires are on your LC, I'm running 275/70/R18 and might want to downgrade to 265s

[@brianaustin6184]

Would love to see how the new GX stacks up against the defender.

[@Centra28]

First of all, great video! I have really fancied the Grenadier since the newest version came out but watching your video changed my mind on it! If I were to pick between these 3 vehicles as my daily driver, that I would also use to go on adventures with, then I would go with the Defender. I would pick the Defender for best overall luxury, comfort, and ease of use offroad. If I were to pick one of these 3 for my secondary (fun) vehicle, then I would go with the Grenadier. In that scenario I would be more up to the challenge of managing the analog off road settings.

[@rustyintheoutdoors]

One of my favorite episodes, Ryan! Hope to see more of the Grenadier in the future 👀😎

[@DavesIneosGrenadier]

Recirculating ball steering not reciprocating. Takes about a week to get used to and I think many many reviewers just repeat the same comments without driving it for a few days. Mine tracks dead straight at 60 mph and returns to centre 90%. You have to start the tyres on 36 PSI cold. You can't put rack and pinion steering on a solid live front axle vehicle.

[@drivingsports]

Yeah. Missed that in edit. It's correct in our main review of the Trialsport and Fieldmaster.

[@erikyoung2193]

Ended up choosing the Defender. We get roughly 22mpg highway with the P400. Immediately put on e-load Toyo’s which fixes the weak point. Interesting payload numbers on your tester as mine says roughly 1600 lbs which was a big deciding factor when purchasing. Would be interesting to see a comparison with the Lexus OT+ in addition.

[@EZapar]

Headed to the snow tomorrow above Greenwater. Tag along Ryan, let's go get good and stuck! Bring your traction boards, I have everything else we would need for recovery. I can get us aired down and back up. Cool vid, the slippery part looks fun!

[@drivingsports]

Did you see the wind advisory for overnight. You'll likely need a chainsaw. Let's touch-base on DMs.

[@christianbolt5761]

The comparison I’ve really wanted to see!

[@jasonsmith1158]

100 % DEFENDER for me !❤

[@LetsGo-wf1dy]

Actually you can manually lock the center and rear diff locks or to have it on Automatic where it will automatically lock/unlock instantly as it sees fit. You can also have up to 4 configurable terrain response program settings wherein you can configure the steering response(light, medium, heavy), Traction control ( Relax,Normal, Responsive ), Powertrain, Center diff, and Rear diff on each settings. If optioned with the hitch, it has the higher towing capacity. The Defender 110 that you have can be configured to have a 3rd row for small adults/kids ( if its tight , then go with the 130). It has a higher top speed too.

[@myronerickson8266]

Great video! I had money down on a Grenadier from the first week they opened orders, but lack of dealer support and final MSRP caused me to chicken out. So I bought a '23 Defender 110 and I absolutely love it. It's brilliant off-road and very comfortable and modern on the highway. I am sure that the Ineos is probably superior off-road in some extreme circumstances, but seeing all the silly buttons and having to back up to lock, unlock, etc. confirmed my decision to go with the Defender.

[@flamingoaviation]

Ryan, 1) Excellent review. I’m concerned that the IG front diff did not engage when called upon in a tough spot. I thought you might just back up a little so the splines would line up. After the run, you let the vehicle set for awhile then later imply that the front diff may have overheated. 2) Your grandfather drove all the way to Honduras in a Defender! How cool is that! Now you’ll have to organize a legacy ride retracing his route with your buddies in their rigs! Cheers!

[@DavesIneosGrenadier]

he was just trying to do engage it incorrectly. Centre diff locked and low. Engage the rear diff lock roll forward or back a few inches and the light stops blinking and it is engaged. Then do the same with the front diff lock. He was pushing buttons so many times the system assumed something was wrong. When you disengage the lockers the blinking lights just tell you the system is waiting to confirm they are unlocked. If they are blinking then they are unlocked and you can feel it. Easiest way to disengage them all is either unlock the centre diff and then all 3 will disengage or unlock the rear diff and the front will also disengage but centre will still be locked.

[@HONORYOUROATH]

Ryan has the best job in the world!

[@leuzel]

I pick the Defender, Land Cruiser and Grenadier in that order. But, the Toyota will probably last more without issues and better resale value. The Defender is the coolest of the three overall. The Grenadier has too much cheap plastics everywhere but its the better off-roader hands down with the three lockers, and the worst city ride, they're overpriced, but looks cool. I've driven all of them...

[@amateurtorque6709]

Great video, pitching the top three against each other. Thanks for including metric measurements.

[@johnclift1967]

Hi from UK, ISA is NOT compulsory in the UK but it is in The EU ( of which we are no longer a member ) but the grenadier is built in France, hence EU rules - great video nonetheless 👍👍

[@jasonsong86]

I still would get the land cruiser. So much cheaper and you can have the extra money to add some mods to it like tires and suspension lift. Use the extra money for fun trips haha.

[@elgrupo2069]

good to see someone who knows what he is doing in offroad and what the car are for...thanks 🙂

[@bartaswroc1962]

I know Ineos Grenadier quite well, it is a proper 4x4 car with powerful boosters ( dif locks) but you need to know how to use it. I know that men don't like to read instructions but in this case it is obligatory. In fact enabling locks is key here....otherewise it won't work. Gear box on neutral, central dif and low gear on than press for "one mississippi " rear differential once ( once not twice ) and than press "one mississippi " front lock also once. Easy peasy lemon squeezy :)

[@adiaz316]

No Rivian R1S? Cant find it anywhere on your channel.

[@klaw3397]

The wheel and tire set up. You have on that land cruiser, is perfection You should show where acustomers can order that exact. Wheel and tire set up.

[@ocielrivera5005]

Sorry my ignorance, but why do I need to put the Land Cruiser or any other suv on Neutral when changing the transfer case ?

[@mpezzi]

How did you get the upper trim with the 1958 style headlights?

[@drivingsports]

It was only on the First Edition in 2024.

[@baltazarkosa29]

great job done by both - Ryan and Nick!

[@darryljansen7364]

Pls explain..Grenadier in mud, why does power cut the instant you need to barrel through obstacle..did you lift off?

[@BryanPike]

In the Grenadier if you unlock the center, the others will too.

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

Yeah that would be funny if it didn't do that. Imagine having the rear or front locked while the center isn't and all the power goes to the unlocked axle in the locked one doesn't do anything and you're confused😂😂😂

[@peopleschamp7258]

Thanks for the review, I do take issue on the dealer comment. Coming from the peninsula, you are 2 to3 hours from Tacoma or Lynnwood LR dealership. Also, the Grenadier runs in second gear, for downhill you can shift it to first for super low gear.

[@authenthuse5165]

What tires pressures were you running? Very interesting comparison - thank you!

[@drivingsports]

All stock pressures.

[@juliusv2073]

what type of wheels this is on land cruiser? eu version seems to have different ones

[@TypeIIAdventures]

22:03 so you’re saying it’s got a compass in the stock and a thingy that tells time?

[@drivingsports]

And four wheels! 8 if you count what’s in the boot!

[@Gemini_0815]

16:29 too easy, too uneventful? This is the most ridiculous kind of criticism. You’re just not doing anything that’s challenging for the vehicle. That’s not the vehicles fault. It’s just bored by the easy off road course.

[@mingmac]

Thanks for your team’s effort this great vdo. Really love this episode ❤❤❤❤❤

[@joelvancranenbroeck]

LR Defender no hesitation ! And something to add is about how many people will buy the Grenadier ? Probably far less than the one who will decide for the LR Defender. Toyota ? Don’t like it probably for no reason … brilliant video ! Many thanks 😊

[@opgentj]

Land Cruiser - hands down! It works, its comfortable and it looks great.

[@martincabalzar6663]

Nice review and comparison, thank you for that. But I have to agree with some previous commentators. Such tests would be better if every vehicle had the same tires or tread pattern. But I really enjoyed the comparison. 100% identical tests are not possible anyway. As a long-time Defender driver (V8 and TD5), I would probably take the Land Rover. The Grenadier is more of a Defender than it used to be... but with more electronics and certainly rougher than the others. But the Grenadier's price is steep. I like Toyota too, but as a Defender driver you can't say that :-) Seriously, Toyota Land Cruisers are very good vehicles. But to me they always had less soul than Defenders;-)

[@is6566]

Great episode, Ryan! I am sure it was not easy to bring three of these together at the same time, even if you own one. Also, excellent tests!

[@SaxonTerror]

That review was well worth a 👍

[@mac22011964]

Given the tires I have to say I am impressed with the Defender. Seem to be getting a rep for reliability as well….i didn’t believe that one either but seems those built in the last 3 years are good!

[@chrismcdowell5515]

Go watch TFL trucks review on the defender. They went through three defenders. They kept breaking every time they took them out.

[@mac22011964]

@@chrismcdowell5515I know and have watched this….i didn’t need putting off a JLR product as I had a Disco 4 which had two major failures and some minor. The JLR dealer here in the UK was appalling at sorting out and I swore I would NEVER have a JLR product again. BUT I am on the Landrover forum am here in the UK and despite early issues, it seems that they have got the Defender into what seems an acceptable position. I drive a Toyota Prado (Landcruiser here in the UK) so that may tell you where I am….but I have a number friends running the Defender with no problems at all…a few take them out to the rough stuff in North Africa and East down to the ,Stans….and get back again!! Will still take some time before I am convinced though!

[@fullmoontaichi9954]

I really like your comparison video. I live in the U.S. and ordered the First Edition in February. Back then, hardly any videos. I started debate between Bronco, Rubicon & L.C. then switched to Land Rover, Lexus & L.C. (unaware of Grenadier). Mainly had to chose based on track records and I wanted a hybrid (L.R. didn’t have one at the time. Repair records, reliability & capability lead me to choosing the L.C. Constantly run into people who have over 300k miles on their L.C. I was surprised by your pick as the L.C. had the slickest road conditions and 4 high for climb. In addition it only has a 4 cylinder hybrid. The luggage rack on top can support 800lbs. Had this video been around when I was deciding, I would still pick the Land Cruiser.