Reviewing Death Confirmation Procedures - Osce Revision With Dr Gill

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Dr James Gill

Dr James Gill

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@feminico2613
@feminico2613 2 жыл бұрын
props to the guy who had to die for this video. The world needs more professionals like him with that kind of dedication.
@DROGOC0P
@DROGOC0P Жыл бұрын
I hear the doctor killed him. dont quote me on that though
@BruceTea
@BruceTea 11 ай бұрын
@@DROGOC0P naah, they swore an oath
@jtcb.t
@jtcb.t 2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to the guy on the bed. Outstanding performance
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
Atharva is nothing if not a great sport!
@TimStamper89
@TimStamper89 2 жыл бұрын
I hear he went method...
@alandrahartmann6437
@alandrahartmann6437 2 жыл бұрын
You could say he’s killing it…
@hxns_0
@hxns_0 2 жыл бұрын
His acting is to die for
@joaolucasjuliodepaula1971
@joaolucasjuliodepaula1971 2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: he actually died to do a better acting
@ESKATEUK
@ESKATEUK Жыл бұрын
The fact this guy gave his life for this video is incredible. Mad respect
@iamvkfan18
@iamvkfan18 9 ай бұрын
The fuk
@kmcg959
@kmcg959 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the warning at the beginning, but this actually brings me a great sense of calm and reassurance. I lost my mum about three years ago now (feels more recent) and the respect and professionalism shown here actually strangely makes me feel more comforted to know that she was taken care of at the end, because she passed before any of us could be there. The respect doctors and healthcare workers (and those in the funeral industry) show to every person is wonderful. I know the NHS doesn't always get things right with every case but this reassures me.
@lucajack007
@lucajack007 2 жыл бұрын
:/
@guesswhat-chickenbutt
@guesswhat-chickenbutt 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss friend. I hope this new year can bring peace to all of us.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
For me the warning has served as a reminder to be honest with myself about my mental health and to not take other people's flawed assessments as fact. I will ask my new psychiatrist for a hospitalization as my condition has worsened drastically.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry you are struggling at the moment. But I hope that you are able to get the care you need - good luck 😊
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
@@DrJamesGill Thank you!
@samanthasavage9013
@samanthasavage9013 2 жыл бұрын
Let me tell everyone who may have to do this one day, as an RN who has had to confirm death, those are the longest minutes of your life, all of the family is watching you, you may be crazy busy, you may be having the worst day- but I promise you aren’t having as bad of a day as the family in that room. Take a few extra minutes before you run out to confirm that the family is ok, and that you put the patients blankets/shirt back on. It preserves dignity and provides comfort to the family, who will often remain bedside post expiration for a while. Our care also does not end with death, for example we do a post mortem wash of patients. You can ask the families if they wish to help at this stage, it often fosters feelings of closure and closeness, especially for people who’s love language is acts of service.
@zzgigs
@zzgigs 2 жыл бұрын
This this this! Especially for babies who are gone too soon. 🤍
@theoboegoddess
@theoboegoddess 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your empathy. It’s something I was so grateful for when my father died. The healthcare staff matters so much to us. Your kindness means a lot
@samanthasavage9013
@samanthasavage9013 2 жыл бұрын
@@theoboegoddess I’m so glad you had healthcare staff that was good, and made that time in your life even slightly more tolerable! It hurts when we hear stories of less then stellar experiences that give the profession a bad name.
@coxnevin
@coxnevin Жыл бұрын
Tell them "they did everything right" someone told me that once and it helped so much, for some reason even if we had no part whatsoever in a death we as humans will naturally find every reason to blame ourselves.
@bexgrant4071
@bexgrant4071 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine this is not an easy thing to do, but I'm glad that it is done with dignity and respect as you have shown here. Thanks Dr. Gill - very informative - my neighbour is a hospice nurse so this is an interesting perspective to see.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
Now that is a tough job. But it’s also the wonderful thing about medicine. There is a spot for everyone, especially when it appears specialties are diametrically opposed 😊
@CommanderBalok
@CommanderBalok 2 жыл бұрын
Mom went into a hospice near the end of her life. She actually improved and left (dying two years later). But I remember how wonderfully they cared for her, and for us, her family.
@ConkerKing
@ConkerKing 2 жыл бұрын
'Hello, my name's Dr Gill..... Are you dead ?'
@heroesevolved3
@heroesevolved3 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@lorenaandreeabutnaru4451
@lorenaandreeabutnaru4451 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@jrawlins5246
@jrawlins5246 2 жыл бұрын
I performed this examination on myself and I'm saddened to report...Dead.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
Your corpse has impressive typing skills 💀
@dylanbksp
@dylanbksp 4 ай бұрын
​@@DrJamesGill old habits die hard
@Butterfly1025A
@Butterfly1025A 2 жыл бұрын
I work in a nursing home and have watched my nurses verify deaths several times. One interesting thing many of those deaths have in common is difficulty confirming the stopping of breathing and heartbeat. Most of our patients are given morphine to manage pain in their last days; morphine can drastically slow and weaken both respirations and heartbeat. With little old people, that slowing and weakening can be _incredibly_ drastic. Once, my nurse took three minutes sitting with her stethoscope before finally declaring the patient still alive, though the patient did ultimately pass less than an hour later. Definitely one of the most difficult things a nurse in long-term care has to do!
@AL-jo2vp
@AL-jo2vp 2 жыл бұрын
My dad died in 2019 of lung cancer. I remember watching his last breath and then going and getting the doctor to verify death . I don't remember them doing quite so much but they probably did. This video does make me relive it and it was traumatic (I couldn't get his eyes to shut so we left him staring at the ceiling which was horrible) , but it's also still interesting from a medical perspective. It will happen to us all eventually!
@Wojtek_Ch
@Wojtek_Ch 2 жыл бұрын
When my pops passed I was there too. Prolly shouldn't unplug his life support to free the socket so I could power up and play my PS4 but what's done is done.
@pedrolopes3542
@pedrolopes3542 2 жыл бұрын
Please don't say that.
@AL-jo2vp
@AL-jo2vp 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wojtek_Ch edgy
@pearlcnrd
@pearlcnrd 2 жыл бұрын
My mum passed from breast cancer back in june, the only advice I would give to people is to research early signs of death so that the person passing away is not scared. Watching medical tv shows is something beyond difficult now because of just how accurate they are, I did not even realise they were triggers until I carried on watching one and the sounds of ribs cracking during cpr, the confused murmuring of patients were exactly the same that it had me in tears for 3 hours. I only remember the emt's checking her pulse and I ran to my room i couldnt watch it, and I still struggle to make sense of it now that I will never see her again.
@VyewVyew
@VyewVyew 2 жыл бұрын
Every doctor verifies death slightly differently but hit all the same legal criteria. Personally I palpate the central pulse AND ascultate both heart and breath sounds simultaneously for a combined 3 minutes so I would look like I'm doing slightly less steps than Dr Gill. And yeah the eye opening thing is a weird one. One time I verified a patient who I had been taking care of for some weeks and I forgot that he also sleeps with his eyes open anyway (extremely bizarre) so every time I tried to close his eyes it didn't work and his wife reminded me not to bother
@nricardoe
@nricardoe 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say that I'm an engineer, nothing related with medicine, but Dr Gill makes every topic so interesting, that I watched the other exam videos, superb work Dr and my congratulations, your videos reaches people like me, not medicine but intestedoin it. Congrats from Colombia!
@Michaelthekiwi
@Michaelthekiwi 2 жыл бұрын
My father died last year after a long illness, while it was expected it also happened very suddenly one night. The rest home hospital nurses confirmed death had occurred and called me. It's nice to see this demonstrated as they had always been very caring and professional while helping my father, this would have been the final act of care for him.
@zzgigs
@zzgigs 2 жыл бұрын
My daughter died in my arms a year ago, and her doctor was kind and let me hear her heartbeat before she died. I bought a stethoscope later on to remember that experience and found this channel while trying to learn how to use it. I will never forget seeing her vitals decline and watching my own child slowly slip away, despite how hard she was fighting for life. I had only held her for two hours, carried her for five months. Those memories will never fade. Hold your people close 🤍 Love them with all you've got.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry to hear of your loss. I can’t imagine how difficult it was. Thank you for sharing. Maybe it will help others with their pain
@iloveyouskii
@iloveyouskii 2 ай бұрын
I dont want to bring you into a mourning state of mind by replying to this, i apologise in advance.. but i really hope youre doing well in life rn. I could only imagine how strong you are mentally. please take care of yourself.
@starfishgurl1984
@starfishgurl1984 2 жыл бұрын
When my uncle dropped dead suddenly mid conversation at work 4 years ago and wasn’t able to be revived at the hospital my dad was told that the paramedics did everything they could and then a doctor worked on him with the assistance of a nurse far longer than was probably necessary and they even had a chaplain perform last rights on him in the process and as sudden and shocking and traumatic as that was to experience it was very comforting knowing that they did everything they could for him and treated him so well in his final moments. It’s nice to see the confirmation process and how it’s gone about because for me it’s cathartic in processing his death which initially I didn’t understand due to shock and took some time to truly sink in. Thank you so much for sharing this!
@truthisreal.
@truthisreal. 2 жыл бұрын
I can relate. My sister suffered a cardiac arrest at the age of 34. She went into the ER bc of a high fever from strep throat and never left the hospital. The doctors worked on her for 14 minutes. 14 minutes to bring her back. Unfortunately she lived 4 years in a persistent vegetative state before she passed just last November. It always brought me comfort knowing they didn’t want to give up on her and let her go even though my sister was already long gone. They cared enough to hope for a miracle and sometimes things like that are the only good things you can take from a situation like that.
@johnloverman
@johnloverman Жыл бұрын
what the hell this is so traumatic....sorry for both of you guys losses I hope you are able to heal
@suzieq2268
@suzieq2268 2 жыл бұрын
The mention of finding a pacemaker is important. Some pacemakers have a defibrillator built within it. Once death is confirmed, I understand a strong magnet is held over the pacemaker/defibrillator in order to make it stop trying to restart the heart ❤ Not all pacemakers have defibrillators which would then make the need of a strong magnet unnecessary.
@Thegothhalfling
@Thegothhalfling 2 жыл бұрын
Another big reason doctors/ funeral directors do this (at least in the US) is because they can actually explode in a retort or cremation machine.
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thegothhalfling I think they remove it prior to cremation. I don't think just disabling it with a magnet would stop it exploding.
@VyewVyew
@VyewVyew 2 жыл бұрын
Other way around, the magnet has to go on before the patient actually dies otherwise it would start shocking while the patient is dying. Most defibrillators only give 6 shock attempts though (I had to review the ICD interrogation record of a patient who died unexpectedly very shortly after I saw him and he was transferred to a another ward.)
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 2 жыл бұрын
@@VyewVyew That's obviously only the case if the patient has opted for a DNR.
@domself9611
@domself9611 2 жыл бұрын
I find this very comforting, my dear Dad died suddenly 2 years ago, my Mum phoned me 3 or so hours after he died (I was at work,I'm a postman and was busy) She didn't know what was done to him after he passed as obviously she was in shock as she had just lost her life partner of 50 years. So thank you for uploading this,as I know Dad was treated with dignity after he died. x
@dingletingles
@dingletingles Жыл бұрын
Fascinating to see how doctors do it in hospitals, our process in the Ambulance Service is similar but has some differences; we'll almost always take a 4 lead ECG to verify asystole since we always have the monitor with us anyway. The way one speaks to the patient's family during and after the exam can make all the difference, and compassionate professionalism is an essential part of verifying death in my opinion. I hope you'll forgive an anecdote. We were called first thing in the morning to an elderly gentleman who had been found not breathing by his wife of over 60 years. We found him in bed, cold and rigored, having clearly died several hours previously in his sleep, I spoke to his wife, who I think already knew what had happened, and her biggest concern was that she had wasted our time. Nonsense of course, we made her a cup of tea and sat and discussed him and his life together while she made a few phone calls and waited until her family arrived. The bit that I have never forgotten was his pose in death; he had died cuddled into his wife, with his arm draped over her and body formed to hers, and the rigor mortis preserved the peaceful serenity of his passing for me to see. I felt great joy at having witnessed a love that had endured so many years, but also a sadness at having been the one to put an official end to it. We occupy a fleeting but unique position in the lives of the families left behind, and I think it's important that we treat that with the reverence it deserves.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill Жыл бұрын
Interesting about the ECG, I’d almost consider that to over the top - that an incredibly heart warming yet tear inducing story Thank you for sharing it - I think. Makes me happy-sad if you understand me
@grf15
@grf15 2 жыл бұрын
I learn something interesting from every video. I would never have guessed that a family member would choose to remain in the room while the doctor confirmed death. I'd want to be a million miles away, but appreciate the fact that Dr. Gill gives the family the option to remain or leave.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone processes grief differently. We can only support the families needs
@Dausuul
@Dausuul 2 жыл бұрын
I was with my mother when she died (I was the one who called the nurses to confirm), and I absolutely would not have wanted to leave the room. I was glad I was able to stay and see her through those last moments.
@nathanfugate8210
@nathanfugate8210 2 жыл бұрын
When my wife died from organ failure due to Leukemia, I stayed alone with her body for 30 minutes until the doctor came and did this. I stayed through all of it, and only left when he did.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry to hear what you’ve been through. I’m so genuinely sorry if this video has caused pain
@nathanfugate8210
@nathanfugate8210 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJamesGill I am fine. No harm done. In fact, remaining with her through that time after her death was kind of the beginning of the long, hard road to healing. That process never really ends, but I am so very glad I did it.
@matthewmacdonaldchannel1
@matthewmacdonaldchannel1 2 жыл бұрын
The content warning is massively appreciated, Dr. Gill. I love your content, but I was nervous about watching this. Thankfully, you were respectful and empathic, as always, and I learned a lot. Happy holidays to you and yours.
@96MasterOfPuppets96
@96MasterOfPuppets96 2 жыл бұрын
Nervous about watching an educational video about something that has happened and will happen to every single human in history?
@ecyor0
@ecyor0 Жыл бұрын
​@@96MasterOfPuppets96and yet something that virtually none of us witness firsthand
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill Жыл бұрын
I think it’s important to appreciate that people can be nervous about anything, and we can try to be aware of that. My nephew gets anxious about crossing brambles, but it doesn’t make his nervousness any less real than my dislike to being trapped - eg rollercoasters or planes
@blakecurry3880
@blakecurry3880 2 жыл бұрын
He's finally killed a man to show us the next lesson. Truly a master class experience!
@Flint9250
@Flint9250 2 ай бұрын
Dr. Gill, I’ve been subscribed via different channels over the years. I’ve gone from a random kid with ASMR to a registered nurse working in a pediatric ICU, and your videos have helped me immensely whether I’m falling asleep or attempting to learn a clinical skill. Unfortunately, I assist with brain death examinations quite often in my role, and it’s wonderful to see your approach. I really appreciate the dignity that you carry into such a solemn occasion. You’re a fantastic professor and physician! ❤️
@momtomtse
@momtomtse 2 жыл бұрын
Handled the topic with respect, like the professional you are. Thank you.
@catherinebisset72671
@catherinebisset72671 2 жыл бұрын
Informative and very sensitively handled. I've watched loads of your videos and you are clearly an outstanding medical professional.
@daniloresende7293
@daniloresende7293 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Gill can stand so perfectly still I thought the video was paused
@hostiliscivitas
@hostiliscivitas 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Gill is always dead on!
@PrinceFiles
@PrinceFiles 2 жыл бұрын
Pun intended?
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Lunatik21
@Lunatik21 2 жыл бұрын
I have not seen or read about this in my medical training so far, so I greatly appreciate seeing and learning about this. Thank you for making this learning moment!
@barrahart
@barrahart Жыл бұрын
I'm not a medical practitioner, just a grateful learner of stuff. Thanks for this.
@taylormcmillan9071
@taylormcmillan9071 2 жыл бұрын
As a care home worker ive sadly seen this process carried out many times before. Thanks Dr Gill it's interesting to finally learn the purpose and reasoning behind each step of the verification
@sammuslu2992
@sammuslu2992 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not even a medical student (I'm a bus driver 😄)but I love watching your videos,so educational 👍🏼
@vintageblackcat
@vintageblackcat Жыл бұрын
Same and I'm a crazy cat lady
@benfuller7650
@benfuller7650 Жыл бұрын
The ASMR is strong with this vid, like this is sleepy time stuff, a little morbid but very informative. Cutos Dr Gill
@gold_hev_suit
@gold_hev_suit 2 жыл бұрын
i only just realized that you did did see pupils dilate, feel a pulse, and hear his heart and lungs. while watching i never even considered it. you both did such a great job!
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@javiTests
@javiTests 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Community First Responder in England and I've had a couple of patients that didn't make it, sadly. In both cases paramedics did exactly what has been shown in this video plus temperature check (until the thermometer read "LO") and a 4-lead ECG. In one of the patients the ECG still showed some activity but we were explained by them that the small electric activity was incompatible with life. One patient had signed a "DNR" form, so when it happened we just waited to confirm the death and on the other one we were doing CPR for more than half an hour, but it was clear it was going nowhere, so all paramedics at scene (4 plus an ambulance LOM) decided to stop at some point.
@milymaj
@milymaj 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! As add-on: on forensic medicine classes they told us that you don't need to search for apnea and heart sounds when you have a cetrain signs of death, such as livores mortis, rigor mortis or putrefactio. Also nobody is death until is warm and dead.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. However we need to start with that training with medics
@VyewVyew
@VyewVyew 2 жыл бұрын
In hospital deaths usually as the on-call doctor I get there within 30 minutes therefore the patient is still warm and does not have those signs. In a few cases I have been called by the nurses to verify a patient who still has a pulse but has stopped breathing. I give those patients a few more minutes until they have no central pulse.
@lavenderasmr1541
@lavenderasmr1541 Жыл бұрын
Not me saving this video in my favorite asmr videos list... Your voice is heavenly
@user-yd4nk4lm6s
@user-yd4nk4lm6s 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that my father has done this countless times and comes home calm as can be is crazy to me. I couldn’t.
@lindahird6586
@lindahird6586 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks James, very useful for junior doctors & nurses who are allowed to verify death such as those I work with in the Hospice setting 👍🏻
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
Very welcome 😊
@seyara1
@seyara1 2 жыл бұрын
An observation on the bowel sounds comment...my Dad and Uncle were sitting with my grandfather shortly after he died suddenly at home (we are Irish so he was kept home all that first night to wake him) when suddenly he passed wind...loudly. Well as you can imagine my Dad got such a fright he almost passed away himself!
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
The gas can also go the other way, esp when moving a body, and it can sound like a groan
@suzieq2268
@suzieq2268 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJamesGill My father passed away with home care hospice. My siblings and I cared for him until the hospice nurse arrived, and then a few hours later the funeral home came. I gave my father one last squeeze of a hug before they removed him from his bed, and I heard my father belch. We had continued to speak with our father long after he passed, so, it seemed natural to say " oh, excuse you." We all chuckled🌻
@seyara1
@seyara1 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJamesGill Well that sounds terrifying 😱
@FaTaLthe13th
@FaTaLthe13th 2 жыл бұрын
Great video ! I’m a paramedic and they never told us to check for a pacemaker and I would like to learn the reason. Thanks doc !
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
We check for the pace makers as they need to be deactivated, and then subsequently removed as in cremation they explode
@aarontompkins8505
@aarontompkins8505 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Dr Gill, this may seem a silly question, but have you ever been in the process of verifying a death, and found the patient was still alive? I ask because I assume from the health care worker’s point of view it’s often “visually obvious” when someone has passed, but I’m curious if “surprises” ever occur. Apologies if this comes across as an insensitive question.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have been in that situation. Maybe it’s something for a Q&A video one day ?
@tc-3
@tc-3 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJamesGill Firstly, thank you so much for the valuable content you provide. I am not a medical student, but am deeply interested in everything concerning medicine. Secondly, I would like to have an answer to the gentleman's question.
@jmantruth
@jmantruth 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJamesGill Awesome that you replied to this.
@VyewVyew
@VyewVyew 2 жыл бұрын
In a few cases I have been called by the nurses to verify a patient who still has a pulse but has stopped breathing. I give those patients a few more minutes until they have no central pulse. Have yet to been called for a living patient who is both still breathing very slowly normally (i.e. not agonal) and has a very slow and weak pulse. Have gone to medical emergency calls where the patient was already agonal breathing by the time I got there. Verified on the spot after the pulse and the agonal breathing stopped.
@joshuaeli2789
@joshuaeli2789 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Gill's videos are to die for!
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
He’s only pretending to be dead!
@alandrahartmann6437
@alandrahartmann6437 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@northernirishasmr4481
@northernirishasmr4481 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure about that Joshua. Can you verify that?
@laradominguez2376
@laradominguez2376 5 ай бұрын
this video was really calming and therapeutic for my medical anxiety, cheers to y’all and medical educators everywhere
@edenlev4593
@edenlev4593 2 жыл бұрын
I am a medical student from Israel. Beyond how your videos are known, as relaxing. I find them useful. It helps me a lot with English and to get used to medical speech in English. I have been accepted to a medical program abroad next year, and your explanations are really good and understandable.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
That’s wonderful to hear! Where will you be studying?
@edenlev4593
@edenlev4593 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJamesGill In the United States in New York for starters. I really hope to also experience in the UK in the future. I am also practicing medical speech in English already in Israel, because I want to gain confidence in front of different types of patients and accents. I usually watch medical guides in English. Yours are great and I understand a lot of your explanations.
@Igarappappa
@Igarappappa Жыл бұрын
Grats!
@cleocatra9324
@cleocatra9324 2 жыл бұрын
This is interesting to me as most of us modern people may never have seen or touched a dead body. We generally leave it to funeral homes… last week we had to put down my beloved cat and he felt so different after death than when alive. As always I appreciate the dignity you give the subject of your videos.
@rageagainstthebath
@rageagainstthebath 2 жыл бұрын
The first minute of the video and it already deserves a like.
@stepheng7325
@stepheng7325 Жыл бұрын
I made the mistake of trying to watch this while grieving my dad and when it was still fresh in my head, I thoroughly enjoy ur videos Dr Gill, 3 years on and I'm giving this video another try :)
@lillastrobel5792
@lillastrobel5792 2 жыл бұрын
I really miss the part when he introduces himself to the patient, "Hello, my name is Dr Gill, can you confirm your name and date of death?"😆
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure normal service will be resumed shortly!
@lukaimedashvili270
@lukaimedashvili270 2 жыл бұрын
Patient: **silence** The Doctor: Excellent! ....ok sorry, that was bleak
@panzerschreck5159
@panzerschreck5159 2 жыл бұрын
As a former police officer (in the US) I would have to respond to deceased persons calls and would usually be first on scene. We often used many of these techniques to verify death. I’m not a medical professional by any means but we did as much as we could to verify the subject’s status prior to the fire department’s arrival so we could quickly get the right treatment ready or get the proper people notified in the event death was confirmed
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely this is why it is vital other individuals can verify death - police in the uk can as well I think. Why is the fire department involved in the US?
@johndunlap1211
@johndunlap1211 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings, Dr. Gill. In many locations in the US, the paramedics belong to the fire department.
@tanksoldier
@tanksoldier 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJamesGill Fire responds to virtually all medical calls in the US. Many firefighters are EMTs or Paramedics, and the medical gear on fire engines is very similar to what is available in an ambulance. The ambulance service is often part of the fire department, or co-located with it, or when separate the fire department is often larger with more stations and can reach the scene more quickly, and even when none of that is true it’s often useful to have 4-5 extra people on hand to help with lifts and transport.
@macdadstromboli2762
@macdadstromboli2762 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJamesGill A long time ago, my dad had a buddy who passed away due to heart attack while he was sleeping. The individual was of large size, (430 lbs or about 205 to 210 kg) and the fire department was called to bring in a special crane to lift him up and out through his bedroom window. The man was a hard alcoholic with the whiskey. This event happened in 1992. But that is just one example to answer your question. There are many other reasons.
@kerrijansson2919
@kerrijansson2919 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJamesGill Like others said, the fire departments here in the US (I'm in the US) are also emergency service departments. Many fire departments have their own ambulances, and once a 911 call is placed, the 911 dispatcher sends both the fire trucks and ambulances to the location. One of my favorite telly shows is 9-1-1 and on the show two of the firefighters are also EMTs. It's more convenient this way as most 911 calls are related to fires and car accidents. You need both the firefighters and EMTs for these - the firefighters have the exact tools needed to rescue people from car accidents, and the fire department EMTs can provide treatment and emergency transport on the spot.
@TheFrenchMansControl
@TheFrenchMansControl 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Verifying death and verifying deaf is the same exam. You shout as loudly as you can at the patient whilst observing them for a response. If they twitch, the doctor will then slap them for wasting his or her time.
@gabrielesimionato1210
@gabrielesimionato1210 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the patient could be under anesthesia.
@jaydoggy9043
@jaydoggy9043 2 жыл бұрын
Acctually lol'd
@noahkirschtein8169
@noahkirschtein8169 Жыл бұрын
i dont even remember putting this on but i guess i fell asleep to this last night
@lewishorsman2219
@lewishorsman2219 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! I’m Dr. James Gi…zzzzzzzzzzzz The asmr on your stuff knocks me out faster than Tyson ever could 😅
@michaelscarn3053
@michaelscarn3053 2 жыл бұрын
The carotid pulse is clearly visible at 9:18 ... Since it has been only 11 hours from the upload you'd better call the undertaker fast
@Jammaster1972
@Jammaster1972 2 жыл бұрын
In this case, the patient was lulled into a comatose state whilst listening to Dr. James Gill's soothingly calm voice.
@kevini4295
@kevini4295 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Dr Gill practiced here in the US. He's obviously an amazing physician.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
Far from it. But I do try to be thorough 😊
@demolitiondun
@demolitiondun 2 жыл бұрын
i really love this video. your calming voice and the way you explain things had my full attention. i feel like i learned so much watching this!
@bottledteardrops8444
@bottledteardrops8444 2 жыл бұрын
Whilst performing last offices I would always talk to the patient throughout telling them what I was doing such as "I just need to move your arm" etc it was a very peaceful respectful process.
@gracie1312
@gracie1312 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too, and still referring to them as Mr or Miss whomever. The country I worked in would also always open the window after a death so the person's soul would have a 'way' to heaven. Regardless of my beliefs, I always appreciated our mutual respect of the person and thier body
@TheDragonSylvia
@TheDragonSylvia Жыл бұрын
I wish the staff in the ICU where my mom passed had been even half this respectful. I asked a nurse if we could discuss her condition out in the hallway (she was alive but unconscious.) The woman was visibly irritated, told me she definitely couldn't understand us, then went out of her way to talk about my mom directly over top of her every time she came in the room to administer care.
@sittingduck4771
@sittingduck4771 2 жыл бұрын
This phrase "life has been extinguished in the patient" provides dignity and profound respect to the deceased in such a elegant manner. Absolutely Bri'ish 🧐
@KH-nt7ej
@KH-nt7ej 2 жыл бұрын
I am a home care nurse here in Canada. I just had to do this yesterday as a patient of mine passed at home. Just as she wanted to. Her family watched as the exam was conducted. They were reassured by the gentle nature of the exam and the care their mother received. Some of my colleagues don't wish to pronounce death at home. Which I completely understand.
@srbond
@srbond 2 жыл бұрын
The ethics and respect of Dr. Gil are beyond everything i've ever seen anywhere. Outstanding video as always.
@allie6160
@allie6160 2 жыл бұрын
This is super interesting as someone studying to go into healthcare! Also, not to detract from an important topic but you look like Dr. House without the medical malpractice.
@Berengier817
@Berengier817 2 жыл бұрын
5:35 i mean you could ask them to confirm their name and if they respond then you know they aren't dead and the exam is done.
@gwenhyronemus1129
@gwenhyronemus1129 2 жыл бұрын
Funeral director in the US...question are your DCs online signature? In the US we have State electronic systems that allow us to assign death record to dr and they sign cause and manner online
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
No still a paper death certificate - which needs to be physically collected by family
@leonstevens1382
@leonstevens1382 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. gill this must be the most macabre of your videos. You have often entered my ASMR dreams, but now you may enter my nightmares.
@thevardinator8204
@thevardinator8204 2 жыл бұрын
It did tickle me a little bit, 'We can't ask the patient in this situation to give us their name & date of birth'.
@scottpearson6590
@scottpearson6590 2 жыл бұрын
As a funeral director this is so informative. Thank you
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Have you ever found a missed pacemaker?
@scottpearson6590
@scottpearson6590 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJamesGill Just a few……we have ended up removing them in some instances.
@hallowrush
@hallowrush 4 ай бұрын
Respect to the person that died for this video ❤🎉😊
@GeneSavage
@GeneSavage 2 жыл бұрын
Did you mean this to be ASMR-friendly? You have a wonderful speaking voice. Learning something new is the process is a bonus.
@heatherthornhill2964
@heatherthornhill2964 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing, I watch these medical videos a lot but never seen one about this. I watched my dad's death confirmed and that was a little briefer than your technique but I think he had already been seen once and they checked because the family had come.
@fabrinirossi5042
@fabrinirossi5042 2 жыл бұрын
Best ASMR Channel without be an ASMR Channel.
@seyara1
@seyara1 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, very interesting. I've unfortunately been in the room with a family member that passed away on more than one occasion and I don't recall the doctor's examination being even half as thorough as this!
@nhlhockeyman8
@nhlhockeyman8 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to America. Lol
@seyara1
@seyara1 2 жыл бұрын
@@nhlhockeyman8 it must be more widespread than that lol because I'm in Ireland!
@sparkyUK
@sparkyUK 2 жыл бұрын
I recently lost my Dad and I was present for the death confirmation. The Doctor asked me if it was OK to use the torch on their phone and she shone it onto his skin (along with the other checks you showed). What would this have been for?
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry for your loss. I know how hard that can be. I’m not sure what was being done there. Maybe looking to see if cannulae had been removed?
@sparkyUK
@sparkyUK 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJamesGill thank you. I didn't see the full confirmation as I wanted to give the Doctor some space to do her work.
@zerogee768
@zerogee768 2 жыл бұрын
So informative and enjoyable to watch. Thanks for all your hard work Dr. Gill 👍🙂
@josmeff8901
@josmeff8901 2 жыл бұрын
6:59 " Hello Mr Johnson can you hear me ?" Mr Johnson rising up like Lloyd Christmas "ooooooooohhhhhhhhh" in that restaurant scene in Dumb & Dumber 😂😂
@thehairyhikers710
@thehairyhikers710 3 ай бұрын
Having been with a fair few people at the end of their life, i dont know if im the only one who may feel/think like this but in a way its an honour to be there at the end of someone's journey regardless of the length of it. Even as sad or heartbreaking as it is i feel comfort if feeling lucky to be there as someone's journey takes a different form whatever they believe
@lenzi1982
@lenzi1982 2 жыл бұрын
thumbnail caught me off guard with the "death exam" LMAO
@nickcarson0404
@nickcarson0404 Жыл бұрын
Dr gill always delivers with the asmr.but i never thought hes hit the mark witha death video
@crapparc
@crapparc Жыл бұрын
I am not in healthcare but this is such an educational video that I almost want to emigrate so dr. Gill can be my doctor. It's been a few years since I lost one of my own loved ones so the warning was also welcome. Also, dr. Gill, what do you write down if you weren't in the room when death occurred? The time that you determine life us extinct?
@SirFooplesTheThird
@SirFooplesTheThird 6 ай бұрын
The three signs of death: 1: head removed from body 2: all burnt up 3: blood removed from body
@petelong1484
@petelong1484 2 жыл бұрын
This maybe a daft question, but you checked to see if they have a pacemaker, what happens if they do have one fitted?.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
It is deactivated - can be done on the ward sometimes - and will be flagged for removal
@krisconway2884
@krisconway2884 2 жыл бұрын
another great video. have you had to confirm a death yet since you became a doctor.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
Many many times. Some times unfortunately, some times not, sometimes at the end of a good life
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
I always have a little ritual after I confirm a death. I go buy some chocolate, and take a minute or twos walk outside the hospital or practice to enjoy the fresh and be grateful for the day
@lindahird6586
@lindahird6586 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJamesGill if I did that my weight would be more of an issue than it already is but I like the sentiments behind your ritual
@chasewestergard2194
@chasewestergard2194 2 жыл бұрын
How would you know that all of those symptoms are irreversible without actually attempting to bring them back?
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
That kind of the point. In order to verify death. Those things must have already been reasonably addressed - whether that is a failed resuscitation or a advanced directive stating DNAR
@milleniumsword1558
@milleniumsword1558 2 жыл бұрын
Huh. I mean it makes sense that its part of the Curriculum. Just didnt expect it.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it wasn’t on the top of my head, but it was a request, and made sense
@lberndtsen7595
@lberndtsen7595 2 жыл бұрын
In Germany it actually is required, that only a doctor can verify death. But it is interesting to see how it’s done.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
This was one of the reasons for the disclaimer at the beginning. I’m only aware of the British Law
@mkp3824
@mkp3824 2 жыл бұрын
He did a great job playing dead! Good video.
@lyndondary
@lyndondary Жыл бұрын
I was going to make a joke about how dead the patient was, or something along those lines, given how funny ASMR comments sections get, but then I actually read the comments section. It's moving to see how many people were touched by this. Kudos to Dr. Gill and I'll just shut up now.
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill Жыл бұрын
I’m honestly surprised how open and the astonishing level of personal stories this video has allows people to share It’s been very humbling
@byronhenry6518
@byronhenry6518 Жыл бұрын
“Doctor, we need you to verify this patient is dead” “Oh, okay.” *GUNSHOT*
@DolfoLicks
@DolfoLicks Жыл бұрын
Mr. Johnson is looking drop dead amazing. More healthy looking than myself.
@pizzaguy9080
@pizzaguy9080 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, Dr. Gill
@soflyprod
@soflyprod 2 жыл бұрын
Fell asleep to some ASMR playlist....woke up to this....
@tomomi5147
@tomomi5147 2 жыл бұрын
Okay this is VERY SAD to confirm someone's death, but please hear me out. Thank you Dr.Gill for this video, I have always wanted to know how to check if someone is still with us. This might sounds bad, but we all know we can't live forever, death will come for everyone of us, that's the circle of life. It is always sad when someone leave this world, it's also very important to pay enough respect for this person, the body, the family who lost the loved one. But from the other side, death can be also interesting. When we think about our body functions when we are alive, it's very surprising how many things is being done in the process. But the same thing happens when we die. From biological and medical point, our body can be even more interesting after death. My wish is to become a mortician one day, so this video is not really needed in my future job of course, but it's still really eye opening how small things can change everything. One more time, thank you so much! 😊🙏
@Kuro-UWU
@Kuro-UWU 2 жыл бұрын
That's kinda weird, here in Italy on a physician can certify and confirm death (aside from obvious incompatibilities with life such as rigor mortis, livor mortis, carbonisation, decomposition, decapitation and so on) The physicians are required to monitor the patient for a certain amount of time and in the meantime do an EKG which is definite proof that the heart has stopped, of course i am talking about the presence of asystole, those who are not physicians are required to call EMS and start CPR until a physician has arrived (not even a nurse can LEGALLY certify death)
@jamescraggs7764
@jamescraggs7764 Жыл бұрын
I’m a hospice nurse in California and I pronounce death often. It’s honestly less technical and more about supporting the family and normalizing the experience.
@maskedbodybuilder4020
@maskedbodybuilder4020 2 жыл бұрын
that guy didn't even blink
@FULLMETALCOUCH
@FULLMETALCOUCH 2 жыл бұрын
Got deep into a suggested video rabbit hole and ended up here. Comfy video to fall asleep to.
@dekudude8888
@dekudude8888 2 жыл бұрын
"Yup. He's dead. Hope you enjoyed the video!"
@allanshaler
@allanshaler Жыл бұрын
Hello dr gill my name is Allan I got questions for you about blood draw can you give blood draw to people that are interested in blood draw niddle poke and how can you do butter fly niddle poke
@tsarfield5835
@tsarfield5835 4 ай бұрын
English or Spanish? 9:22
@Nathan-cz8uk
@Nathan-cz8uk 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe a silly question (I have no medical background): is there a specific thing that's checked for the 'irreversible' criterion, or is that just implied by the other tests (and/or the patient's overall history/condition)
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is to prevent someone walking up and saying - “this person is dead” when actually it is a cardiac arrest The assumption is ALWAYS to attempt resuscitation- unless specified not, eg a DNAR status So the verification comes well after all the interventional has passed.
@eddy1978
@eddy1978 2 жыл бұрын
As a junior houseofficer I faced a dead patient yesterday and today yt recommends me this....
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
The algorithm is weird at times, and our noticing coincidences makes it stranger
@hypnagogia42
@hypnagogia42 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t taking body temperature be useful and fast just out of curiosity?
@DrJamesGill
@DrJamesGill 2 жыл бұрын
That could be misleading. For example hypothermia Also a person could have died comparatively recently, so still be warm
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