Children of Herod: The Herodian Family

[@clarencemukutwa880]

I'm so blessed to hear this teaching to the end, thank you so much Great Man of God for this insight 🙏🙏

[@BradScot-lc4my]

This subscription has all the answers to my historical questions. You have filled in all the missing pieces to my own historical knowledge

[@CiliPB]

I’ve been looking for this information for soooo long and so glAd to finally find it.

[@melelataihavea1354]

This is really helpful I have religious education this helps a lot around that for homework thxx

[@aimee-lynndonovan6077]

Fascinating to put into perspective.

[@luvellecummingsiii9438]

I am so obsessed with Herodian history

[@abrahamphilip6439]

Obscessed with Jackals & foxes ? Said Jesus "Go tell that Fox"

[@laneyljk]

Yep a group of European + Jewish people descend from him

[@luvellecummingsiii9438]

@@laneyljk yep.. Big FaX

[@ottoman1755]

I would appreciate a few book recommendations on this subject.

[@DrJohnStevenson]

My primary source is Josephus and his Antiquities. It is available for free on the Internet. Hoehner has a book entitled Herod Antipas that is good. Then there is my own book, Ancient History: A Framework for the Bible -- www.amazon.com/dp/0982208677

[@ottoman1755]

The full family tree image used could be borrowed to hand to a class?

[@DrJohnStevenson]

Yes indeed. Send me an email at [e-mail] and I can send you either a jpeg photo or even the entire Powerpoint. Make sure to state specifically the series you wish (in this case, it is from a college class I teach in NT Backgrounds).

[@micahtim]

They were Roman citizens, that citizenship was given to Herod by Gaius Julius Caesar, therefore their family names were Julius Herodius

[@elyssa-vagabunda4239]

The citizenship was given to his, father Aristobulus by Caesar in return for raising an army to help Caesar during a crisis.

[@justicar5]

Fun side note: Herod was never called the Great, that only appears in the 19th=20th centuries, to set him apart from the other kings the Bible also calls Herod (Agrippa, was called the Great, and probably earned it)

[@DrJohnStevenson]

Good point. The one person who was called "the great" in his own lifetime was Pompey and that is because he started calling himself by that designation, much to the amusement of others.

[@blessingpereye1258]

@@DrJohnStevenson I guess the word "pompous" came from his name "Pompey"

[@DrJohnStevenson]

@@blessingpereye1258 - I never put the two together, but you might actually have a point. It should be noted that Pompey was his last name and that it was actually a plebian name since he was a "new man" from the ranks of the commoners.

[@ChristinaFromYoutube]

What do you think of the theory that Saulus is "Paul" and that's why he talks about Bernice and Drucilla in his letters?

[@DrJohnStevenson]

I don't know of which theory you are speaking. Saulus in the New Testament (our English translation says "Saul") also went by the name Paulos (our English translation says "Paul"). There is also a Sergius Paulus mentioned in Acts 13 who shared the same last name as Paul.

[@ChristinaFromYoutube]

@@DrJohnStevenson Dr Taylor Marshall says Paul was a Herodian. In Romans 16:11 he does say "greet my kinsman Herodion" I was just wondering if you have seen evidence of that. Sorry i explained it so badly.

[@DrJohnStevenson]

@@ChristinaFromKZbin Paul calls this person, Herodion, a kinsman. They were evidently both Jewish and possibly related in some way. That happens to be similar to the name "Herod," but that does not mean that this Herodion was necessarily related to Herod the Great. On the other hand, there was a connection to Herod via his steward, Chuzza, whose wife was a follower of Jesus (Luke 8:3).

[@Pamsouthdakota]

Wow good job

[@stephenmarley7281]

Was there any reason you missed out the story of Archelaus, the ethnarch of Judea?

[@DrJohnStevenson]

No special reason. We are not given all that many details about him and he was removed by A.D. 6..

[@xifangyangren9997]

I thought Herodias’ brother was Herod of Chalcis, and the son of Herod of Chalcis was Aristobulus. Am I wrong?

[@DrJohnStevenson]

You are not wrong; I only put up part of the family tree (I could not fit it all into the slides). Here is a link to someone who has been a bit more detailed: static.wixstatic.com/media/655590_4a7e4845e4d64f5aae1b2809875e996f~mv2.png

[@xifangyangren9997]

@@DrJohnStevenson by the way, your video is excellent. I am learning a lot. Thank you.

[@samvick1557]

Festus and Agrippa met with Paul together, Felix was already gone

[@DrJohnStevenson]

You are probably correct.

[@samvick1557]

@@DrJohnStevenson enjoyed the content very informative

[@Robwolf28]

Flavius Josephus writes that Herod had many wives at one time. See he remarks it being a custom among the Jewish kings of old, so Herod did likewise.

[@Robwolf28]

Though the Romans were monogamous with their family structures, but they could sin by laying with prostitutes, and prostitution was forbidden in the Torah, but not by the Romans who were Pantheonistic.

[@Robwolf28]

Chaesarea it would be transliterated into Engish from Latin. See car is Latin is char. See the name Cae-sar is Chae-sar. Though sounds similar to the German form Kaiser.

[@Robwolf28]

Latin C makes a ch sound not a se sound. see luci is Luche, but che as in cheek.

[@Robwolf28]

I learn this when I learned how in Latin Richard which is Rikhart but in Latin pronounced Re-chhard. See compound name Riki Rikr harthr hart, or Hard in Saxon or Reichhart in German.

[@rinaorogo64]

Wait! You said Aristobulus was killed, how did he get to marry?

[@DrJohnStevenson]

He was already married with children when he was killed.

[@bondurango]

This genealogy is WRONG! It makes a common mistake of failing to distinguish between Herod Philip and Philip the Tetrarch. Otherwise, consolidating the two leads to an incestuous relationship between Salome (daughter of Herodias) and her father (Herod Philip) given the fact that she later marries Philip the Tetrarch her father's brother (also, her mother's uncle). Herod Philip was the son Mariamne ii while Philip the Tetrarch was the son of Cleopatra of Jerusalem. Wikipedia confuses the matter by recording Philip the Tetrarch older than Herod Philip which is improbable given that the former is the son of Herod the Great's 5th wife while the latter is his son by his 3rd wife. As one of four surviving sons Herod Philip did not rule after Herod the Great's death for unknown reasons. He may have been excluded from the will or, he abdicates or, Rome deems him unfit (as they would with Archelaus later on). He and his wife/niece, Herodias, were living in Rome at the time of Herod the Great's death. In the meantime, Herodias divorces Herod Philip (legal under Jewish law but could not re-marry without permission from the former husband) and then returns to Israel and "shacks up" with her other uncle, Herod Antipas while Herod Philip remains in Rome (there is no proof that Antipas and Herodias were ever married but Jewish law did allow nieces to live with their uncles). John the Baptist, however, insinuates that this relationship was carnal ("Antipas had his brother's wife") which was scandalous but not because the divorce was illegal. Furthermore, since John does not protest any prior uncle/niece marriage, his attack is simply based on sex prohibited outside of marriage and, this lack of marriage is the source for a wrong assumption that women could not divorce their husbands, and therefore the pair had an "illegal" marriage.

[@DrJohnStevenson]

I agree that the genealogy is incomplete. I did not speak of Philip the Tetrarch and probably left out a number of other children as well. My reasons were mostly a matter of trying to make sure that the size of the chart was not overwhelming. Yes, I am aware that Philip and Herodias were living in Rome when Antipas came along. But I don't see a mistake in the genealogy or in anything I said in the video. I am certainly willing to be corrected, but don't see the needed correction in this case.

[@PattyUndah-fh9zs]

Wicked King Herod was an Idumea (Isau) He claimed to be King of the Jews but he never was a Jew.He killed all the male child two years and below during Jesus birth. Thus fulfilled Jeremiah 31:15

[@DrJohnStevenson]

The situation was perhaps a bit more nuanced. The Jews of a few generations before Herod and taken both Samaria, Galilee, and Idumea and forcibly converted the inhabitants to Judaism. This made Herod and his family "semi-Jewish." But you are correct that he was not actually Jewish and it was Rome who gave him the title "King of the Jews."

[@PattyUndah-fh9zs]

@@DrJohnStevenson Yes Dr you're correct I can see John Hyrcanus made a terrible mistake in incorporated Idumea into Jewish estate in 134 BC. Israel faces the ripple effect of that transaction even today.

[@elyssa-vagabunda4239]

His family were Jewish converts for nearly two centuries under the Hasmonaeans. Current archaeology demonstrates that he did practice Judaism in the privacy of his own apartments, albeit perhaps a liberal form of Judaism, and did not merely pay lip service to it. According to the NT, he put to death male children under the age of two in Bethlehem rather than "all male infants." This if it took place would not have been positive, but it would mean around handful of infants and not infants throughout Judaea.

[@luvellecummingsiii9438]

Revelation 2:10 The devil shall put you in prison

[@abrahamphilip6439]

The name Herod biblically refers to the Gentiles Beware of the leavens of the Pharisees (Jews) & Herod (Gentiles) , the leavens of the LAW/FAITH resp,