The Primacy of Tradition and Obedience to the Truth

A fundamental principle of the traditionalist movement is that the liturgy of the Church -- her body of immemorial, venerable, universal, approved and received rites -- stands at the core of what it means to be Catholic, to believe as a Catholic, to live as a Catholic. In its refusal to follow Paul VI's order to stop using the Roman Rite and to substitute for it his own modern rite, the traditionalist movement was characterized from the start by a primordial act of material disobedience for the sake of a higher obedience. This continues and ought to continue today.
Catholics, equipped with the double gift of reason and faith, are capable of recognizing a pope's public and abject failure to uphold 'received and approved rites' (Trent); they are capable of seeing when he is assaulting souls and attempting to destroy the Church. Such efforts on his part deserve to be met with firm resistance.
Kwasniewski argues in particular that Traditionis Custodes is absolutely null and utterly void from its first letter to its last punctuation mark, for it rests on impossibilities, incoherences, and contradictions. It attacks the Church’s self-identity in her godly and God-approved worship. It attacks her lex credendi. It attacks the common good of all the faithful-both those that make use of the Roman liturgy and those that make use of other Western rites and Eastern rites, whose position has been radically destabilized. It attacks in a bewildering variety of ways the rights of bishops, priests, deacons, religious, and laity.
Now is the time for intelligent, principled, valiant, and uncompromising action.
(The full text of this lecture may be found here: rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/202...)
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[@kathrynhichborn8390]

God bless you for this! As one who has hung onto her missals and veils all these years, feeling like an alien at Mass until we found a TLM parish 30 years ago (76 miles away), and fought for conservative values in the Church and in the nation, I was moved to tears by your words. May we be fortified by the knowledge that we are fighting on the side of Truth and that we are not alone.

[@juliemcsweeney6434]

@Kathryn Hichborn - Your family is so blessed to have you, to lead by your many good examples. So many people I know submitted to obedience of Novus Ordo Priests without question, who themselves should have been questioning. Catholic School, VBS, The Edge Catechism etc destroyed Catholicism within my older children. I stand alone within our community. The older children are now an example to the younger children and so the hemorrhaging goes without ceasing. Settled now within TLM, though local parishes with outdoor Mass, face masks and hand sanitizers and extended beyond reopening dates with a vaccine book to sign in order to separate the vaxed people from the non vaxed in the pews, even my younger children won’t sit the journey to the TLM. The damage is immense and public Schools have also made their contributions. ☘️

[@mckenzie2260]

This is just what I needed to hear today. God bless you, Dr K!

[@DrKwasniewski]

Glad it was helpful!

[@odorofsanctity9169]

May the light of the Holy Ghost inspire our failed pastors to listen to words such as these, and act to restore the true Deposit of Faith to Catholic belief and worship.

[@robp1000]

Always enjoy listening to your talks, Dr K! This one is excellent. I’m going to have to listen again to get even more out of it.

[@michaelcostantino5397]

Exceptionally well done! Thank you for being such a wonderful and prayerful spokesman for Tradition. God Bless.

[@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM]

Listening to this talk, Heaven will be cheering!

[@randyjones3050]

I'm optimistic that some time after this darkness has passed that future generations of schoolchildren will be learning the story of the trials, vindication, and canonization of Saint Marcel Lefebvre, the greatest defender of tradition in the history of the Church.

[@MichaelPRuffing]

Amen. Amen. Amen, Dr. Kwasnieski. God bless your work.

[@Sahuayoc8490]

“Tradidi enim vobis in primis quod et accepi” as his eminence Marcel Lefevbre Motu well kept through what could well be said the Perfect Storm for destruction. Let us hold fast and thank our Lord Jesus Christ for guiding his eminence Mon. Marcel Lefevbre for being faithful to Tradition with all those that in times of difficult discernment stood fast and were faithful to and had given testimony and to motivate all those like me that were blind for the longest time. It is not easy for anybody like me to see how terrible it is to erase the most important thing (Identity) of anyone who now “sees” the damage caused from an induced deviation of believes specially the only True Faith with out any scruples for damaging of souls. Thank you Dr. and may our Good Lord pay you all you are doing for his Kingship, even if we have to go through what is necessary for His Second Coming. We know that His Triumph is not as men would think.

[@johnsol8084]

Thank you Dr. Peter Kwasniewski, you launch a powerful expression defending TLM Roman Rite to those who wish to reduce it to dust.

[@soundhound9189]

Very good

[@peternelson9259]

Keep up the good work. You're a light in the darkness, Mr. K.

[@tonny-leonard]

Another amazing lecture. Thank you and may the Lord keep you and bless you for your service to the Truth.

[@DrKwasniewski]

Thank you kindly.

[@TruthSeeker-333]

The TLM is my faith. Nothing can replace my faith, especially not a manufactured one like the rite of study group 10

[@solitalorenzi2163]

Thank you for this Great Talk. God bless you.

[@juliesmith1731]

Thank you Dr Kwasniewski, you are a wonderful speaker and speak so much truth. I loved this talk! God bless you

[@DrKwasniewski]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@R.C.425]

Thank you,

[@carolynkimberly4021]

We denounce the irrationality of the "New Theology" and it's liturgy.

[@MsPeaceable]

This is a great talk

[@michaelhickman872]

Right on! You are doing God's work

[@ryanb4780]

Brant Pitre is doing a video series on the Mass. I'd love to see these two sit down for a talk.

[@DrKwasniewski]

As much as I admire Pitre's work, I admit I'm nervous about this series, because every time a conservative has tried to do an account of the Mass, they end up making cringeworthy historical mistakes. Liturgy is a subtle and detailed discipline that biblical scholars are seldom familiar with.

[@denise-kc6lk]

It’s a narrow road or a wide highway tread which ever you choose being Catholic is very hard in this day and age but it’s still your choice

[@poetmaggie1]

Nearly everyone who has left the Church have then condemned the Church and those who hold to Tradition. I think that is a point in the favor of the Trueness of the Catholic Church.

[@DrKwasniewski]

I added this to the description above, but I thought I should mention it here as well: The full text of the lecture is available at rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2022/09/the-primacy-of-tradition-and-obedience.html.

[@paisley293]

Apb. Marcel Lefebvre, of joyful memory, did not obey the diktaks of either Paul VI or J.P. II in regard to the liturgy. We can safely say that the Usus Antiquior was saved for posteriy because of the actions of this one, true, shepherd of souls.

[@m.proximus1930]

Has there ever been a treatment of the adverbs, "altogether" and "universally" in BXVI's pronouncement? "Oh," but the villain says, "We aren't *universally* prohibiting anything, or saying you must *altogether* change from one thing to another! You just can't have 99.99% of the opportunities you used to have! You just have to go from one thing to the other in most cases! Certainly not altogether or universally, though!"

[@chrisflood6420]

What is your best recommendation for reading for those to best understand what happened in the 60’s as you referenced toward the end of your awesome presentation? Thank you for continuing to educate and fortify us.

[@Myrtsie1]

The Rhine Flows into the Tiber: A History of Vatican II by Rev Ralph M. Wiltgen

[@muztan3100]

Michael Davies' Liturgical Revolution Series, bar none...

[@williamwan5533]

If I understand this correctly, then faithful Catholics not only have the right but the obligation to resist the illegal orders from the Bergoglio regime.

[@DrKwasniewski]

Correct!

[@williamwan5533]

@@DrKwasniewski Thank you sir. I presume this applies not only to the TLM issue, but the "pagan idol worship" as well as the so called "green/environmental policy" coming out of Rome.

[@TheIndividualChannel]

Cincinnati is the Queen City. That is a truck stop with a liberal hospital.

[@DrKwasniewski]

Sorry, that's just silly. Get some history under your belt. "Charlotte, North Carolina has the name Queen City because the city, itself, bears the name of a queen. It received its name from Queen Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz. She was King George III’s wife.... Because Charlotte is named after an actual queen, it received the nickname of Queen City. Cincinnati doesn’t have any ties to actual queens." www.thecoldwire.com/why-is-cincinnati-called-the-queen-city/

[@kjhammer2137]

JMJ God bless you and Marcel Lefebvre.

[@ronielaledo4521]

-----Dr. Dietrich Von Hildebrand (The Devastated Vineyard, Roman Catholic Books, rep. 1985 [Chapter VIII] ): “...obviously it would be COMPLETELY WRONG in ANY WAY to question its validity as reproduction of the Sacrifice of Calvary as SADLY some Catholics have done. And it goes without saying that it would also be completely wrong to disobey any of the rulings of the Holy Father regarding the Novus Ordo and the Tridentine liturgy.”

[@patriciamathews5975]

Yes. The Mass is timeless. It is past, present, and into the Future. Christ Himself, unity within the Godhead, honors His Divine Sacrifice and the TLM cannot be declared null in the present day for what was declared Divine yesterday. Papal Authority cannot declare Christ's Sacrifice null at any time or prevent its celebration for it stands for all time. (An invalid Mass, liturgy can be declared anathema by a Council of Bishops (headed by the Pontiff) if it is lacking Divine continuity. However, The very reason the Temple Sacrifice has Christ as Divine Fulfillment is because The Godhead honors His Sacrifice from the beginning. The blood of animals, a placeholder, for Christ's incarnation to complete by His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, finds Divine expression in the substitutionary species received in the TLM and other properly sanctioned Liturgies and rites of the past. This is continuity, not rupture. Every Divine Liturgy declares the foremost Sacrificial nature of it's liturgy. The Altar is prime and cannot be replaced by the Laodicean table.

[@carolynkimberly4021]

Yes. But these bishops are the spigots through whom our priests' faculties come. If they defy wolves like Cupich they will lose their ability to give us the Sacraments.

[@Rigo.SoliDeo]

Saint Athanasius didn’t care about that. The Supreme pontiff of the Church, our Lord Jesus Christ, will supply jurisdiction.

[@SensusFidelium]

Exactly. You can beg a bishop to be a modern Athanasius but the laity better be ready to sacrifice that bishop and their ways of lives. And nothing laity can do about it. Pray harder and become saints. We need more holiness and virtue.

[@carolynkimberly4021]

@@Rigo.SoliDeo My priests care

[@terratremuit4757]

@@Rigo.SoliDeo How do you know if you have jurisdiction then? If anyone could just claim to get jurisdiction from the Lord that seems to possibly lead to absurdity

[@DrKwasniewski]

That's a caricature of the SSPX's position, as I'm sure you know. If we are truly in a state of crisis, we cannot expect the very causes of the crisis (pope and bishops) to be the ones who validate that there's a crisis and then who very kindly provide faculties to traditional clergy. That should be a no-brainer.

[@samaritain16]

Talking about the Primacy of Tradition and not talking about the Primacy of Love and the Ten Commandments is out of it !

[@DrKwasniewski]

No one can talk about everything in one lecture. Have a look at any given chapter in the Bible, for example, and see if it talks about the primacy of love and the decalogue. Or any one article in the Summa. God bless you!

[@samaritain16]

@@DrKwasniewski Whoever does not love, does not know God because God is love. (not tradition)

[@damadgamer34]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@samaritain16Respectfully, you only know that Bible verse because the books of the Bible (which are a part of Tradition) were passed down. So, if you’re logically consistent, you should thank Almighty God for Tradition! Therefore, it would be correct to say: “Whoever does not love Christian Tradition, does not, cannot, and will not truly and properly know God.”

[@samaritain16]

@@damadgamer34 "Whoever does not love, knows not God because God is love", The primacy of Tradition yes but that Tradition has Love as its center, first of all. And not going from that principle made the Church err in the crusades, war and so on, to defend a so called Tradition without its center.

[@user-jq7wu3kq1w]

The Orthodox Church has been saying this for one thousand years. Papal supremacy leads to the current degraded state of the Roman Catholic community. All very sad. Come back to Orthodox tradition!

[@DrKwasniewski]

I would beg to differ with you. The ABUSE of papal supremacy leads to evils. Papal supremacy itself is part of the Christ-willed constitution of the Church. From that point of view, it is YOU who must come back to the orthodox tradition of Rome.