Jazz: RTS VS POTP VS SS86 | Doctor Lockdown Reviews 106

[@DrLockdown]

Seen a bunch of comments comparing POTP Jazz to a bunch of different race cars. It would seem as if it's actually an amalgamation of at least three different Porsche racers...which probably ends up contributing to the cobbled-together nature of the thing. Like mate, making an all-around homage is fine, but that just didn't work.

[@hypersonicboom89]

Oh how is your opinion on classic ironhide

[@DrLockdown]

Don't have him, so I can't say. Also don't really have a desire to get him either

[@ronaldpaterni5081]

@@DrLockdown Just as well - as modding was needed to fix Ironhide’s drooping-head issue.

[@ronaldpaterni5081]

Yeah in Aurora slot cars’s heyday, I had a similar Porsche, and also a larger Radio Shack toy of that Porsche. It had 1 flat airfoil, and not the ladder-type ones on Jazz. Here I forgot, and thought he was a Ferrari, although, yes one was silimilar...

[@Firebyte27]

Also, technically Volkswagen owns porsche.

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

Personally, I’m tired of screen-accuracy taking priority over smart engineering. I’d rather have a fun toy than a bland display piece that just so happens to transform.

[@StrykerPrimeProductions]

Absolutely agree. 110%

[@TyphonMar]

For sure dude

[@SirTaxFraudALot]

The goated bayverse toys

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Lazy Eyebrow Pointed this out before, potp jazz's alt-mode is based after a different Porsche racing car that existed in real life, it was used durong the 60s if I remember. Still not very jazz-like though.

[@DrLockdown]

I've had a couple of comments suggest which car they've used, but it's so far removed from whatever it was meant to be that it just doesn't work.

[@boyboy-ru3gx]

Where?

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

@@boyboy-ru3gx just Google image search porsche 936 and 956 and the resemblance is pretty clear. Not sure how DrLockdown can't see it.

[@DrLockdown]

I did check Google. I don't believe they look anything alike. Same goes for the other four/five nods people have claimed. I don't think anyone really knows what it's meant to be, because it's a hodgepodge of different models

[@grrrmlin]

i honestly really like how the stripes on the hood of the potp one go to the bottom of the torso. I feel like its a neat little thing that implies more transformation than actually happens and continues the stripes. I just think its neat

[@Cent_Reviews]

“Hmmm yes, the car here is made of car”

[@NexusProductions-rz1sv]

The guy complains that the car mode looks like a car. My brain just sort of... glazed over at that.

[@bruhdiconwassi5074]

I swear this dude has the shittest takes

[@caseysshenanigans708]

First of all, this is his opinion. Second, he's stated in multiple videos that his harsh opinions are slight exaggerations, so this may have just been something he blew out of proportion for comedic effect.

[@easysneezy]

@@caseysshenanigans708 ok but where's the comedy

[@astromotive6047]

Trust me Doc, whenever you get to Grimlock he *WILL* be worth the wait. He's accurate while also packing on a ton of extra details that give him an air of sophistication beyond that of his animation model, boasts a transformation that is intuitive, clever, and most importantly fun to perform in *BOTH* directions unlike the rest of his Wavemates, has all of the essential articulation points that you could want in a WFC Figure (Waist Swivel, Ankles pivots, and wrists), *ALMOST ZERO* hollow parts (Literally the only hollow parts are the inner forearms but you'd have to be serious Scrooge to even get mad about it) and finally proves that "Leader Class" can still mean one big chunky robot and not just a voyager with extra stuff (Not that I dislike any of the new Voyager+ stuff at all mind you). He STRAIGHT UP IS a WFC Trilogy figure that was throw into this SS86 Lineup to fill out the crowd right down to having all of the 5MM ports in all of the places that you could think of [Shoulders, Forearms, Shins, Back, and Feet].

[@StrykerPrimeProductions]

Well technically all the SS86 figures are just WFC figs thrown into the shitty SS86 line

[@elxr9434]

Potp jazz turns into a real life vehicle that was actually used by g1 jazz's original sponsors before it was the Porsche jazz turned into

[@lakitudude7577]

Personally i prefer jazz without door wings. He looks fine with them, but being wingless helps differentiate him from the datsuns

[@MrFlibblelv2]

Another plus for RTS Jazz is you can take the speakers and attach them to his gun to "Power it up". It looks O.K. in my opinion, and more play options are always good.

[@DrLockdown]

RTS always seems to push the play value, which makes it a better figure overall.

[@redweegee9443]

I think the really funny part is that the image of the leaked earth mode sideswipe turned out to be real

[@ToaArcan]

For the record, the RTS one's shape is largely based on the modern Porsche 911, but with a front end more derived from Movie Jazz's Pontiac Solstice altmode to disguise it. I managed to find an RTS one on the secondary market, and he was such an upgrade from the PotP version. I've considered the SS86 one, he scales better with my mostly 2014-onwards collection, but I like my Jazzes with wings. At least PotP is the best of the three at being a leg.

[@danielgaylor]

God PTOP is one of the most cursed transformers lines. Its odd to think anyone was excited for it. Also I would say SS86 Grimlock is nice. Basically, if you love how every Grimlock ever transforms, than you will like the ss86 version. Its not anything new, it just feels good to have a Grimboy that does the robot, transformation, and dino mode nicely.

[@SirBroccolingtonIII]

Not to mention one that's properly sized. Every other genuinely good mainline grimlock apart from the ultimate class cyberverse one have been criminally undersized.

[@DragoonMS]

@A guy with an anime Profile Pic Because I can Sword over Wheelie would be fine. A better made gun with better storage in alt mode (over Wheelie) would've been even better.

[@DrLockdown]

Just buy the titans return one

[@zafool4997]

@@DrLockdown but it’s wheelie

[@606Xentrax606]

Returning to this video for a third time. Just wanted to leave a comment thanking you for the comparisons. I picked up the Studio Series Jazz earlier this year, and thought I'd be satisfied with him. I was for a bit. He was my first G1 Jazz, so I was excited to have him in my CHUG collection. But thanks to this video, I decided to hunt down a RTS Jazz as well, and frankly, I'm delighted to have him. SS86 Jazz is great, and the RTS really has a bit more character overall. The speakers, light piping, and door wings really go that extra mile. Tl;Dr I wouldn't have looked for RTS Jazz if not for this vid, so I send you my sincere appreciation. Thanks Doc

[@blackbolt578]

Honestly, POTP jazz is still the only jazz I've ever sold, although despite its many flaws, I actually appreciate what it was going for in vehicle mode, being more of an homage to an even older race car (that I actually forget the name of) than the Porsche 935.

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

Really? I thought it was supposed to be a 911 GT1.

[@soundblaster1987reviews]

I think the POTP Jazz mold was meant for Overdrive because it suits the character design better, but they used Jazz instead for a more recognizable character.

[@williamfinch2777]

POTP Jazz is supposed to be LeMans racing car, so it is based of an earth vehicle.

[@DrLockdown]

Just googled that. I cannot see the resemblance at all.

[@grimtnt5903]

@@DrLockdown They actually based it on the porshe 962 And judging by the image results of searching that car, it looks like it would make a nice alt mode for Mirage.

[@TheLazyEyebrow]

Porsche 956 or 936. That's about what you're looking for. It's honestly what i love so much about potp haha

[@DrLockdown]

I can't say I agree

[@TheLazyEyebrow]

@@DrLockdown that's fair. Idk i still really like the idea, but i can see why everyone isn't for it

[@mattplayz4550]

Tbh my favourite Jazz is the SS09 (or 10) Jazz,i just Like everything about it,but sadly i never Got IT as i Got into collecting around the time SS Car Dropkick came out.

[@DrLockdown]

It's an alright one. There are better SS cars on the market.

[@RedRanger2001]

My favorite one as of now is the SS86 Jazz. He goes perfect with all those Earthrise and Kingdom Autobots. And the upcoming Legacy. POTP Jazz is perfect for CW Optimus Maximus (he needs to share the hand/foot/gun accessory with one of the CW Autobots)...

[@QuartzRoolz]

"lets see what the designers give us next" Designer 1: what it we... you know... did G1 jazz so its completely sunbow accurate and doesn't, like, actually transform, it just parts forms... Designer 2: ITS GENIUS!

[@DrLockdown]

DON'T YOU DARE JYNX IT!

[@TomboyTommy]

3 jazz means 3 of the coolest bots around

[@DrLockdown]

One isn't pulling their weight.

[@soundblaster1987reviews]

I put Reprolabels on my RTS Jazz because the Takara version was too expensive on eBay and Mandarake. I used the cartoon stickers instead of the toy ones so he looks better.

[@DrLockdown]

I would've bought them, but I'm already buying the SS86 stickers eventually, so I don't think I need two Reprolabels sets.

[@jtek2259]

Hey I’m selling a RTS jazz with rapper labels if you want it? No gun but still

[@sebgaming4667]

Personally, I *love* both modes of the RTS Jazz. Yes, the car looks like just an Audi TT, but that's the point of 'Robots in Disguise?' And the robot mode, oh god it's beautiful! And it looks (I have yet to hold one in person) so dense, overall the RTS is my favourite and it's the winner in my book. Especially compared to the white brick of shit and TOoN AcCuRAcY!

[@jsvideos2261]

My Selects Ricochet (POPT Jazz repaint) arrived last week, and I also have an United Autobot Jazz!

[@illiniguy34]

POTP is best to leave as a leg, and that's all she wrote.

[@halite_g]

You know it's kinda shocking how thin some of that prime wars plastic looks.

[@TheGenuineDWNUT]

I'm sorry but as fine as RTS is; I prefer Studio Series 86 Jazz since i like my Jazz sans door wings. If they only made RTS Jazz's doorwings able to hide away..... I'd be satistied.

[@lakitudude7577]

12:22 "budgets and all that JAZZ" was that intentional?

[@DrLockdown]

...surprisingly no...

[@ignite5329]

Oh, a new VERSUS review, nice

[@minerva_the_protogen]

Ah yes the beastars pfp

[@leftygurl]

honestly i have a lot of fondness for potp jazz. he was one of my first two transformers when getting into collecting, and i just… really like jazz. plus, i like how he plays, especially as a combiner limb. he’s not perfect, but he’s really fun to mess around with. studio jazz tho? yellowed, fiddly, and prone to falling apart. he’s not the worst, but he’s not the best either. somehow my favourite jazz has ended up being the origins jazz from buzzblebee, he just feels lovely in the hand, it’s such good, strong plastic.

[@KanohiiSideOrder]

12:21 "Budget and all that jazz..." Ha.

[@DrLockdown]

Unintentional, surprisingly

[@cyberneticgeek]

2:39 I just noticed the scratch and minor paint chips on the ss 2007 jazz.

[@DrLockdown]

Was like that out of the box sadly.

[@lonewolf9578]

Honestly? My only complaint with my PotP jazz is how his shoulders are a little loose meaning they’d just drop down instead of staying in place

[@optimistprime3192]

Same happened with mine. If you can find any floor polish to coat both parts of the joint, it helps a lot. Had to coat the joints of my copy a few times but it works.

[@hypersonicboom89]

I bought the studio series 86 jazz and it is a good figure

[@braumkimball9548]

Personally, I really enjoy transforming SS Jazz and transform him back and forth a lot

[@mayday2237]

It's interesting, for the most part I'm on the same page as you whenit comes to screen accuracy not being as important, but G1 Jazz is one of my exceptions, he's one of the original series characters I'm particularly attached to from that show and the other ones don't quite bridge the gap in my brain that connects the affection to the toy. It's funny how we all have our exceptions sometimes to when a general rule isn't a rule.

[@DragoonMS]

WARNING: This is gonna be lengthy and probably touch on multiple things. ---------------------------------- The thing with RtS, everything before it all the way back to Classics, and most of the things after it up to around PotP, is that it's supposed to be *modern* renditions of ol' skool favorites. Including some formerly Japanese Masterpiece exclusives that are just now or fairly recently seeing mainline compatible release, such as Generations Selects Cordon, Spinout, the Seacons (and their Beast Wars II Pirates repaints), Titans Return Stripes (who was allegedly originally intended to be Steeljaw), Fall of Cybertron & Siege/35th Anniversary Soundblaster, FoC Sundor, etc. It's not supposed to be straight up G1, though during Combiner Wars & Titans Return up until the brand unification around the time Trypticon came out in Japan, they sure as hell made huge pushes toward it. Hasbro's stuff having G1 toy inspired colors, whilst Takara's stuff had the G1 anime inspired colors...and looks, in the case of The★Headmasters & Chou-jin Masterforce characters...but then, Fortress Maximus is a huge exception as Fortress is also G1 toy & Japanese G1 anime accurate (because that's how the toy looked in both markets), while Cerebros is pretty much American G1 anime accurate. Go figure. For me personally, even though he doesn't scale that well, RtS Jazz is MY CHUG Jazz. And the scale isn't really THAT far off considering that he came out in 2010, four years after the Classics Voyager Optimus Prime (2006)...and Siege & Earthrise Optimus versions are both the _same height as the Classics_. (This is also why I got the Netflix WFC-T version of Earthrise Optimus instead of the actual trailer toting one...better value for the money, and marketed as the Voyager he truly is!) Though I would like to see what scale charts the designers were going off of with both the PotP Elita-1 (who's a repaint & fair retool of PotP Starscream) and the Netflix WFC-T Elita-1 (who's a repaint of Earthrise Arcee); both versions come up to the truck grille abs of their respective Optimus Primes, and both are the next size class down (PotP Elita is a Voyager to Optimus's Leader, Earthrise Elita is a Deluxe to Optimus's VOYAGER), but I simply DON'T recall her in the show being that short compared to him, they were like around the same size. Even in the WFC-T animated series, Elita's not THAT much shorter than Optimus (though unlike G1, she's definitely shorter...just not nearly as much as what the toys want you to believe).

[@reyonXIII]

It's what Elita gets from being a bare bones remold of that...eugh...Arcee figure. Like...her wavemate Soundwave still has Siege as a base but is so heavily retooled for a better alt mode...they couldn't do the same to Elita? In terms of scale, Mastermind Creations Eupatonium is the proper size for WFCT Elita (and has the way better vehicle mode too) but good luck getting her. Netflix Elita's only saving grace is the headsculpt, which I personally prefer over any take of her classic head, even if PotP Elita's combiner head is still the best take on it. Other than that, PotP Elita's still the superior TOY. And sure, she's a hair taller than Siege or Earthrise Optimus, but what's wrong with having a lady who stands at your height and has rocking chiseled physique? I got Earthrise Optimus 2nd hand at a discount, so the trailer didn't bother me. And yeah, RTS Jazz is taller, but he looks TOUGHER and righteously so as effective second-in-command. It's only right he's as big as SiegeRise Ironhide and Ratchet. SS86 looks dumpy and frumpy

[@samwatson-tayler2805]

I think what Jazz needs is a fresh take. Because he sat out Beast Wars, RID and the Unicron Trilogy there's flexibility in what he can be, the biggest change Hasbro feel comfortable making is "door wings y/n?" and they need to be more adventurous to really slam it. Here's my suggestion, remake Cybertron Crosswise and repaint Jazz from him again, just make it regular heroic Jazz instead of the Shattered Glass version. Then we can also get a Ricochet and Sideburn from that mold.

[@DrLockdown]

Given their current trajectory I doubt that would happen any time soon

[@samwatson-tayler2805]

@@DrLockdown I can dream.

[@Cdr2002]

I think a legacy animated jazz could be that peak figure you talked about at the end

[@Fuz_noodle]

This is honestly a 1v1 with an honorable mention

[@athancraftsman3034]

You're right man the reviel the shield is the best jazz for me. I enjoyed your review. I'll support your channel, same as you too.

[@Cdr2002]

Jazz in CHUG is a weird paradox. He gets updated more often than plenty of others and is considered a fairly A grade G1 character… and yet, it feels like he’s updated VERY infrequently? Like, compared to say Prowl, Arcee, Cliffjumper, Ultra Magnus, who we get with decent frequency; Jazz is one of those G1 characters where every time we get a new one it’s been a few years. Similar to say, Trailbreaker, Silverbolt, or Rhinox for a non-G1 example. But that’s REALLY weird for such a pretty major G1 character. Obviously with the Legacy era we’re branching out and G1 isn’t the singular focus, but you’d think during the Warden era we would’ve gotten Jazz much more often. As is, weve only gotten these three figures and the CHUG-ish RID15 version. I remember back in the day when people were coping with the 07 G1 colors repaint and FunPub intentionally made Shattered Glass barely different in color scheme so it could be a cope Classics Jazz. It’s just a weird little situation

[@Cdr2002]

I own 86 Jazz and Selects Ricochet. 86 Jazz has a better head sculpt, I have more fun posing it, and the overall design is more solid to me. POTP has a good looking robot mode to. Pretty soft face tho. Transformations are both decent. Finally got an RTS one and when it arrives I’ll compare

[@eobardthawne3333]

"no war toys of our products" So to tiger(p), Ferdinand/elephant, or Maus toys?

[@taylorharrison8765]

I really want an RTS jazz but its becoming more expensive.

[@DrLockdown]

Really? Facebook has had a bunch lately.

[@jtek2259]

Bro I’m selling one sans gun for 16 bucks on eBay, it even has the repro labels

[@muazo9916]

The powe of the primes jazz is a mixture of different porches

[@shadowgames6164]

Only started collecting transformers since earthrise started, and i never got a chance to even see a reveal the shield jazz. So im happy with the studio series 86 line

[@o.8.p149]

I love ss86 Jazz he’s just fun

[@dnprime1737]

"nobody gives a shit about the potp version" im slightly offended

[@KirkWilliamsIsBroken]

The lack of chest tabs on RTS Jazz absolutely KILLS the figure for me.

[@cowboybarbaryn1302]

One thing I’ll say about power of the primes is I enjoyed that rendition of Slug/Slag/whatever. Might just be my bias towards the character, but I still like it.

[@animeking1357]

POTP Jazz: I have no mouth and I must scream (because my figure sucks).

[@ArcNeoMasato]

99% unrelated to the actual video, but what kits do you have on your Volcanicus? That thing looks AMAZING and I just got a set actually along with the Nonnef weapons, and I'm looking to kit him out to be a bit.... better.

[@DrLockdown]

It was the Perfect Effect kit. Wouldn't recommend it though; both kits on the market (PE and TDW) make him far too top heavy. I had to display him leaning against the back wall. I've since sold off Volcanicus and all his upgrades.

[@ArcNeoMasato]

@@DrLockdown Wow, I'll just stick with the reprolabels and weapons then that this guy came with. Thanks for the word of warning!

[@DrLockdown]

No prob. Personally id just swap out for the new ones actually

[@EternalRoman]

@DrLockdown The RTS Jazz neck base at least in my copy does click into place and it is seen further up compared to you copy presented on this video. I also own GDO Wheelie which is the same mold with the Wheelie colors and head and it also clicked and secured just as good as my Jazz, all I did was just push slightly more and it clicked and I don't mean too hard, you actually feel it. Now it is not a strong click per se but it does have it. Overall RTS Jazz if my all time favorite modern Jazz too and that is something I like so much more on the CHUG line as it basically modernized the G1 images and designs. If they had the Ankle tilts that the WFC trilogy figures have they would had even better considering how super awesome they still are and RTS Jazz is the best along Bumblebee...a set of Reprolabels and boom all issues solved.

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

As far as I can tell, POTP Jazz is meant to be a Porsche 911 GT1. I had a toy of it (the car, I mean, not just the figure), so I recognised it right away (sadly very damaged and I'm not sure where it is, but I definitely owned it). My only problem had nothing to do with the tamps (I owned him before I learned of the asinine message hidden in it), but is a problem with the hips. His damn right hip pops off at any opportune moment. This might be a case of 'mileage may vary', but it's literally the only problem I had. The fact that his HFG also turned into some really badly made armour didn't even bother me. Oddly enough, the hip problem wasn't there in his repaint, so maybe it was just a fluke.

[@jeffleake1960]

Aaah RTS Jazz was my 1st figure that started my collecting bug off I got it from B&M for not much money at all. I went from that to MP09 Hotrod then that was it the bug had bitten me big time

[@Cdr2002]

My 86 Jazz has one tiny crack from me forcing it the first time I transformed him. I’ve tried to take care of him since and he’s all good. My girlfriend’s one broke tho. Functional, but now non-transforming without the windshield. Shame Hasbro never released a marvel colors version. At least that way if it breaks it’ll appropriately LOOK like action master Jazz

[@kachowskien]

why can't they give Jazz a smile?

[@DrLockdown]

STOIC

[@HiperPivociarz]

I am so sick of G1, but man, the Studio Series 86 line looks so good. It's nice to see something that is just smooth, and simple, that looks like a retro robot. I know it's personal preference, but you have to admit, if you like a lot of detail, you are being oandered to more than me. Everything today has to have a lot of detail, Transformers, superhero costumes, videogame characters, anime robots. I was so happy when Jet Jaguar for Singular Point was revealed, and he looked like a 50s style robo.

[@jonathanverdecia8214]

What do you find so boring about s86 scourge ? I kind of understand that sentiment about jazz even if I do not agree whit it , but scourge is full of detail ,panit has sublime head sculpt ,appropriate accessories and movie references i find the alt modes and transformation appropriate and he has one of best robot sculpts . I am genuinely confused

[@DrLockdown]

The transformation. He basically just unfolds; basic shellformer engineering. I don't take any joy in flipping him back and forth.

[@jonathanverdecia8214]

@@DrLockdown Thanks for the reply, I actually enjoy transforming him but I see how it may not be everyones cup of tea, he is definitelibly a testbook example of a shelformer. Excuse me if my comment was a bit aggressive, scourge is one of my top 5 figures and galvatron's trio are my favorite characters so I got a bit defensive. We have different tastes but I appreciate the honesty in you reviews

[@DrLockdown]

No prob. I'm not going to get offended because someone disagrees. Honestly you didn't sound defensive at all

[@blackwatchjazz3499]

Unfortunately my 86 jazz has a crack on it's windshield and I don't even know how it happened

[@taylorman666]

Racing Number also combines G1(4) and G2(1) numbers

[@taylorman666]

Also, come on! RTS has so much kibble on the back I can’t see the figure! And if speakers matter soooo much, get them on eBay for like $10. I’m getting SS86 Jazz

[@Tjadimax]

This has got to be may favorite review you've done so far.

[@DrLockdown]

Thanks mate. Hoping to do more verses reviews in the future

[@animatronicmaster1618]

I think that kingdom sideswipe leak was a actual leak because you can see the mushroom peg air holes on the arms

[@DrLockdown]

Nah it wasn't. The actual toy looked very different

[@tycopolov2103]

the potp jazz with the maga reference if im not mistaken is now a rare version due to the fact that as soon as hasbro noticed this they changed it as such ill be keeping mine but might pick up the studio series one for a more accurate looking vehicle mode

[@DrLockdown]

That's kinda why I'm keeping mine, but it's a pretty pathetic 'easter egg'

[@upstreamlotus0]

@@DrLockdown I thought that it was a reference to the g1 episode where an announcer called him Maga instead of calling the other character Maga. If that was the case it would suck getting fired for referencing a g1 episode. I do not know though.

[@DrLockdown]

Given the time, I doubt it was that

[@larrychilders6599]

​@@upstreamlotus0that character was named Munka Spanka

[@BatFan1]

RTS Jazz is a neat update to the G1 character without outright copying the Porsche alt mode. But I disagree that his transformation is satisfying to the degree it outshines the SS86. The simplicity of the SS86 given how accurate he looks in both modes is actually a satisfying aspect in of itself. It didnt need any fancy tricks or faux parts to achieve either mode. I have both RTS and SS86 and RTS is definitely more finicky, the automorph aspects of the shins can be tricky and frustrating. If im picking one to play around and transform back and forth it's SS86 hands down every time. Also, you can give him the doorwings if its a look you want. I actually removed the speakers and eventually the windows from the doors on the RTS figure because i didnt like how they looked in bot mode, which is how im going to display the figure 100% of the time. The one thing that would have put the cherry one top on the SS86 is if it came with the optional shoulder rocket launcher to homage the G1 toy. Yes, I know it's a representation of the cartoon but still a neat extra to throw in, just like the doorwings look is optional.

[@KilosFoxo]

ithink the next generations jazz could take inspiration from maketoys downbeats door engineering to allow toy accurate wings and cartoon accurate lack of wings

[@DrLockdown]

Would be a nice touch. Even the G1 toy can do wings or wingless.

[@Cybertux-zp3fo]

I started my collection during the prime wars and the rts one was out of my budget so I had no other choice but the POTP one. I’m definitely keeping an eye out for the SS86 one but whichever I find for a better price right?

[@DrLockdown]

People should be selling the RTS one on the cheap now, in order to fund the SS86 one.

[@harpybeagle4931]

LegacyKnockout makes this mold work imo, as Jazz it’s meh city but the new Knockout makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside

[@DrLockdown]

Actually I think knockout is still underwhelming. Jackpot is rad though

[@charperalta9489]

Is it funny that my potp jazz was my first jazz but my dad broke his foot and he buyed a cyberverse soundwave but he had no head articulation no swivel and my jazz's arm broke but i saw that coming

[@_V.Va_]

About the scalping, you'd be surprised how common SS86 Jazz is.

[@DrLockdown]

They are now, but when jazz first came out it was pretty bad

[@0pt1tr0nD27]

Well you could always say that potp is supposed to be cybertronian car like a few other figures in potp

[@elyriasrageofficial]

Im a Gunpla enthusiast, so the urge to panel line SS86 is REAL.

[@leviticusprime4904]

Honestly the studio series 86 line has been great. The only bad figure you could say is maybe kup. But as it is, it’s completely fine.

[@det.bullock4461]

I have SS86 Jazz coming from Amazon.it, regardless of precedent it's just the one that's easier for me to get and is _good enough_ (TM). I did try to get a few older Prime Wars toys for characters I was interested in and wouldn't probably get a new mold in a while but apparently a lot of people got the same idea and the prices reflected that. It's still interesting to see comparisons though.

[@banobobot]

I don’t get the hate behinds the Power of the Primes’ alt mode. Sure, it’s looong, has thick doors than don’t match the door windows, and unpainted taillights, though that last issue is true for a majority of current car bots. I like this mode, especially the headlights, flattened, streamlined physique, and Lazy Eyebrow pointed out to me that it was based on other Porsche racecars. Reveal the Shield Jazz ain’t too bad either.

[@ronaldpaterni5081]

This was an awesome review - but I’ve run out of time,, and need to continue my watch later. For extra fun, transform RTS Jazz’s pistol/speakers combined weapon into a boombox. Yes, it can be done...

[@DrLockdown]

One of my mates told me after the video. I've still gotta try it

[@Majinhero]

Kinda sad you did not mention the C-clip feture the RTS line had, where every weapon can be swapped and combined. to bad it only stayed inside that line.

[@HiperPivociarz]

I so want personalized gadgets to make a return, likr the foldout speakers, or all the Autobot powers in Animated. It has so much more personality than just guns. I may be an outlier here, but outside of G1 with nice chrome, and 80s spacey designs, and Movie and Prime lines, with how creative they got with the guns, I really don't like Transformers gun. They are just one big piece of plastic, that doesn't do anything, until Siege introduced the effects parts. The effects parts kinda made me turn around on the guns tho. But the only gun itself thag I really like is Armada Prime's HUGE ion blaster, and Siege Prime's long ion blaster.

[@DrLockdown]

It's not just you; a lot of TF guns have been underwhelming. You compare them to Nonnef's work, and they just don't cut it.

[@HiperPivociarz]

​@@DrLockdown I mean, Nonnef's kits aren't something I want either. I would prefer something more interesting.

[@deang5386]

Can't wait to hear your thoughts once you put on the toyhax stickers for SS86 Jazz

[@DrLockdown]

Don't think I'll make a video about that, but I may put up photos on social media

[@deang5386]

@@DrLockdown ok cool. will have to follow your other pages

[@HiperPivociarz]

The reason they didn't get in legal trouble with Porsche is because G1 cartoon model is not perfectly accurate to the car. Maybe it seems like a very small difference, but it actually makes a world of difference. Exhaust could not have the triangles, because that's straight up a Marlboro logo, and aside from it being owned by a different company, you probably don't want a toy for kids to be painted up like a cigarette pack.

[@Sarcasticron]

Yeah, I missed RTS Jazz when he came out and got him as a lucky eBay purpose a few years later. Whenever they come out with new one I'm, like, why? The combination of the still-decent budgets and serious advances in design post-ROTF gave us toys that just don't need updating. Some re-releases would be nice, though.

[@DrLockdown]

Accuracy. People want it to look exactly like the thing out of their childhoods

[@fulltilt7270]

Wait you don't like studio series 86 jazz But would you like model it was prime knockout

[@DrLockdown]

There's nothing wrong with the hardware of Jazz; it's just that the mechanical detail is boring. Knockout could fix that

[@omegamaximus1727]

Studio Series 86 Jazz is great, my copy’s clear plastic is beginning to crack unfortunately.

[@theenigma3886]

SS 86 is a figure I plan on getting in the future, due to my SS Jazz not being in the best condition.

[@Levi_52_336]

I agree that RTS Jazz is the best figure out of the three. I simply prefer modern stylings, and the slightly refined G1 nature of SS86. Also, SS86 isn't a carry over from Earthrise. Kingdom simply lacked the slots necessary to facilitate this many figures (BW and G1), and so the figures whose designs would benifit the most from having fewer WFC ports were moved to SS86, which in and of itself was created to fill the Studio Series line until the next Transformers film comes out in 2022.

[@DrLockdown]

I don't think it was meant to be a kingdom figure either. The transformation is wholly different

[@dustedgirl101]

You know it's almost like Ss86 is supposed to be toon accurate or something but what do I know

[@meat1939]

POTP jazz is literally a scaled up/retool of legends size prowl for real.

[@DrLockdown]

I'm not sure if this is a joke or not

[@meat1939]

@@DrLockdown how is that a joke?

[@DrLockdown]

They're barely anything alike. At all

[@jeffleake1960]

I want nay 8 DEMAND an official master piece Jazz after Prime he's the one transformer that stands out from the old show with his voice that I'd heard so many times before from so many different characters or so it seems like now anyway

[@danwilliams1989]

Good review. Speaking of Jazz, would you recommend I try to hunt down the Animated Jazz figure?

[@DrLockdown]

Dunno. Don't own it.

[@Sacrefiied]

My copy of POTP jazz had some shitty qc, left arm was so loose I could barely pose him. And the legs opening inward made it a pain in the ass to transform. 2/10, He forms a Combo.

[@whydopeoplelovefoxy2051]

Sadly I can’t look at a car bot anymore without thinking about the god awful clear plastic kingdom is messing with my head

[@KRBrickBot]

3:26 Any particular reason for a Hyundai i30?

[@DrLockdown]

Random car I pulled from google images.

[@blackorder9565]

Will you review the ss86 Hot Rod, what are your thoughts on it ??

[@DrLockdown]

He's a bit boring for my tastes. He's engineered well, but like the rest of the line so far there's not a lot interesting to him

[@blackorder9565]

@@DrLockdown I feel the same too, between ss86 Hot Rod and Siege voyager Optimus, which figure do you think is better tho ??

[@DrLockdown]

I reckon hot rod is better done, but I prefer siege prime

[@TyphonMar]

I sold my RTS Jazz, debating trying to reacquire it. I have the Ricochet version of POTP Jazz, it's ok. It was cheap lol. Studio Series 86 Jazz is alright

[@thedrifter5531]

in my personal opinion this video kinda shows why the actual factories and designers need larger budgets (not only because the prices are being hiked up) but because then we could actually get accurate ss figures(so far bumblebee prime and blitzwing's alt modes are wrong crankcase's robot mode is wrong he looked like berserker in the movie not like a copy of crowbar the KSI drones weren't jets they were trucks dropkick and shatter were horribly wrong first time round and second time round they aren't even triple changers a lot have been inaccurate) and ones that don't snap from the slightest touch and figures may be a bit bigger

[@juliebeanns5481]

I like the overall look of ss86 jazz but, at least for mine it has some awful qc issues such as pre-yellowed plastic, horribly loose knees, overly tight plastic hinge and waist panel, and the peg that joins the legs together broke almost immediately, leaving my copy floppy and ugly

[@TimeCircleBlue]

Runamuck how tf did you get here?!

[@DrLockdown]

Lots of TFs get used for comparisons.

[@TimeCircleBlue]

@@DrLockdown it’s more the fact that I didn’t notice until I had to run it back cause I didn’t hear something you said.

[@blucanyon]

The RTS is a very weird combo of 370z, Audi TT, and 911

[@Evaunit98]

Power of the primes Jazz isn’t a space car, it’s actually based on the Porsche 956 race car with some differences, the front bumper is a little different and it should have the roof vent

[@DrLockdown]

If it is, none of the differences gel together at all

[@Evaunit98]

@@DrLockdown yeah the changes made just made the car look worse, and the wheels still look cheap

[@awkwardgamer7759]

I like the way the power of the primes jazz but that's just me.