Transformers Collaborative GI Joe Megatron | Doctor Lockdown Reviews 143

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Introduction: (0:00)
Vehicle Mode: (1:30)
Baroness: (6:46)
Partsforming...oh dear...: (11:46)
Transformation: (13:22)
Robot Mode: (15:50)
Price Debacle: (21:59)
Final Thoughts: (24:45)
#collaborative #gijoe #megatron

[@dampclown154]

Finally, Cliffjumer is free! So happy for the little guy

[@DrLockdown]

He's earned a holiday :p

[@gigansattemptatdoingstuff4389]

@@DrLockdown YAY :D

[@Opthomas_Prime]

@@DrLockdown will Megatron become the new figure to make fun off instead of cliff?

[@DrLockdown]

Yep

[@Opthomas_Prime]

@@DrLockdown ER cliff may not be the best but he's the reason I started collecting and now I have 297 figures

[@JomasterTheSecond]

Side note: The O-Ring inside these new Joe reprints is _apparently_ made of dental silicone instead of rubber like the 1980s versions. If that's true then that's excellent for longevity, seeing as silicone doesn't break down at the rate of other natural rubbers.

[@senipain2785]

I remember hearing a rumor somewhere that this figure was designed by the GI-Joe team. If true... that makes way too much sense. This feels like someone's first ever transformer

[@DrLockdown]

Twice now that's been said in the comments. May have to look into it

[@senipain2785]

@@DrLockdown Let us know what you find! 😊

[@sewing3049]

I’ve heard the same thing, but I can’t remember from where

[@ghidotheone]

The most telling thing about this figure was the fact that I saw a dude post an excited arrival pic of it in a discord, then listed it for sale on the same discord later that same day.

[@DrLockdown]

Ouch...that's...sad...

[@GatorRay]

WOW!

[@LowRentLefty]

Funny enough, that Baroness isn't a remake of the OG, but basically a recreation of the old 80's figure down to the silly face, o-ring waist and 45 degree wrists

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Since it's not a reissue, there's virtually no reason to do her this bad.

[@PdxToycollective]

@@DrLockdown As both a vintage and modern collector I want to clarify that the Baroness figure and the other Hasbro VHS style Joe figures are the same as the Star Wars Retro card "reissues". Hasbro lost the original tooling (or broke it who knows) and essentially re-poped the figure. It is technically an original sculpt but it's marketed to older collectors who want the 80s 3.75 A Real American Hero (toltoys action man in Australia) figures. Technically makes this crossover worse as modern TF fans have a antiquated figure to deal with, and older collectors have modern TF they have no need or want for.

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah total mistake marketing wise

[@NeoZurg]

They should have used the updated modern Baroness figure

[@lilithofthevoid4922]

I love you describing the HISS tank as a mechanical duck, simply because I love ducks

[@DrLockdown]

Needs more lemonade stands

[@lilithofthevoid4922]

@@DrLockdown only if they've got some grapes too

[@DrLockdown]

Bam bam bam

[@pugaleto9578]

@@DrLockdown and then he waddled away, waddle waddle

[@harrisblastaar5081]

I actually never knew thus guy partsformed to this degree. When ever i watched other reviews for this megs they’d often BARELY mention it. Also the starwars bit had me wheezing.

[@DrLockdown]

That's... concerning. You'd think it would be a bigger deal for most reviewers

[@aladdinsane5925]

Loved the green screen shenanigans going on in this review. Good stuff.

[@alfa1134]

Despite this review being about Megatron, I can't help but feel envious that managed to find the new ARMADA Starscream and Minerva figures.

[@DrLockdown]

Don't be. I had to import from Asia. Aussie retail STINKS

[@JomasterTheSecond]

Honestly tempted to just get this set for the nearly 1:1 replica of the vintage O-Ring figure of The Baroness to go with my 80s figures and the vehicle mode alone since it's like, kinda cheap on Amazon. 80 or so dollareydoos isn't _too_ bad - that's the going rate of the most recent reissue of the Hiss Tank online anyway from what I've seen. Side note, as a fan of G.I. Joe I'm legitimately stoked that we're getting more O-Ring figures like Cobra Commander, the Cobra Troopers and _especially_ Storm Shadow, since the last time we got an O-Ring figure using V1 Storm Shadow was 2004 - though we're not actually getting a figure using that mould, because they're _re-creating _*_ALL_*_ the figures from scratch with brand new moulds based on the originals._ Yes, including The Baroness. I'm more forgiving of that figure because like... y'know, it's made to be a re-issue of the original after all. Getting rid of the waist joint entirely and screwing with the wrists would kinda negate the point of it being a re-issue of the O-Ring toy specifically which hasn't been seen since 2002, and even that it wasn't in the right black colour scheme. At that point they may as well have just repacked the Modern Edition figure which isn't what's going on now as Hasbro's shifted to re-issuing the vintage styled ones.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

The grate section is called Diamond Plating. Others have pointed it out, but Baroness is a Homage to older GI Joe figures, which used that Rubber Band System, they are doing it for accuracy, which can still be bad, it's just that's the point.

[@DrLockdown]

Ah. Thanks mate. 24 hours and only now I get a response on what it is :p

[@arcticdragon5823]

I really do hope that Hasbro will make more out-there figures for the collaborative line. Something like the Mystery Machine would be random but interesting as a figure.

[@DrLockdown]

I'd be happy with anything, as long as they just improved

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

Just retool SS86 Ironhide into the Mystery Machine and call the resulting Autobot “Enigma”.

[@DrLockdown]

It's possible. Did some checking, and the license seems to be freely given. It's not tied to any competitor like Mattel or Neca. Suppose it's possible

[@nnemov22]

The Baroness is the Classic GI Joe old school design called O-Ring (Rubberband and hook in the middle). Most Joe collectors want that in the figures.

[@michaeldinsmore1632]

Coming from the Gi Joe side of the coin I can see on this piece that things like those foot pegs on the back and the tow hook are super important to the Joe fans. Its the difference between a regular vamp and the Sears special Vamp with the Shovel on the hood.... Those distinctions are important particularly when it comes to a recreation. The Hiss itself was I very dark piece. I have an original on my shelf. It looks to me to be the same size as the original so that means if you are into it some cross play. I agree the piece looks like a hollow toy. If you ever built a Joe vehicle you will see why...vast cavernous voids. Because they didnt need to utilize the space. If the Joe team designed it then potentially they brought the idea of your not looking at it most of the time so who cares mentality. Yeah its coming in the mail as we speak. I want the hiss. Thats what does it for me here. That and that happy little mashup banner sticker if it has one. This stays in box for me. Same with the Bumblebee here down the line. Thanks for the Honest review!!! Nice to see.

[@confusedcabal342]

Hot damn! This is some next level editing!! Kudos to you Doc!!

[@DrLockdown]

Aw. Thanks mate. Been using runway a lot more: an AI masker that lets me make green screens from any footage

[@Stingerman100]

@@DrLockdown dawg you came up quick as hell.

[@kaylemathewcomendador6964]

Apparently HISS Megatron was mostly designed by the GI Joe design team than the Transformers design team. I guess that would explain the hefty amount of iffiness of that figure. Looks like that figure is mostly for completionist or GI Joe fans that just really want a transforming Joe scaled vehicle once in their lives. The folding up bit on Megatron’s torso is supposed to be a tow hook for towable Joe weapons. I didn’t think it could work as fusion canon storage until now. Neat! And apparently the foot-pegs on the back of the tank mode (AKA: that partsforming part that aggravates you) are bigger than the vintage ones, making vintage figures not completely compatible. Why would they do that if one of the target audiences of this figure was vintage Joe collectors? The Baroness looks like a pretty good recreation of the vintage 80s figure. From the lack of paint (if you thought the lack of paint on her is bad, wait till you see the first 80s Snake-Eyes figure with it having zero paint on it) and the articulation not being as good as modern 4 inch Joe’s, minus the head. Seriously, what is with the way the glasses were painted? The vintage figure properly masked the glasses so that the inside of the lenses were the base flesh colored plastic. Why is that not the case here? Is masking like that suddenly not cost effective now? And why are the eyes somehow tinier than the vintage one? The heads on these vintage Joe figure recreations have been pretty iffy so far. And yeah, the elastic band holding the torso & legs together eventually breaking has been an issue for the Joe collecting community for years & they know & have to deal with it. Fortunately it’s a pretty easy fix, via unscrewing the torso apart & replacing the elastic (AKA: o-rings). *Fun Fact:* Takara (practically one of the co-creators of Transformers, via Diaclone & Microchange) were one of the originators of that elastic band figure construction. Introduced in their Microman (AKA: Micronauts outside of Japan) toyline. So blame them for that construction style your not liking, I guess.

[@DrLockdown]

Huh. Interesting history. But yeah, this release has been really poorly handled overall. Putting an O ring in a modern recreation is like remaking a modern figure with GPS; it's just dumb

[@kaylemathewcomendador6964]

@@DrLockdown Yeah, I can see that. Although to be fair the included o-ring figure might be a sign that this figure might be mostly aimed for collectors of the 80s Joe line. Although the foot pegs on the partsforming back piece not being compatible with the vintage ones kinda messes with that idea.

[@kaylemathewcomendador6964]

@@DrLockdown Also I’ve encountered a decent amount of Joe fans online hoping for reissues of the 80s o-ring Joe figures. Especially the early ones that are getting pricier in the aftermarket lately.

[@jeebus2313]

Man. The entire Collaborative line (with few exceptions) is a perfect example of what I like to call "neat concept...what the hell happened to the execution?"

[@DrLockdown]

Laziness. That's what happened

[@jeebus2313]

@@DrLockdown ...fair point.

[@Michchall]

Well seeing how this turned out, I can see some amazing deals in the future, hopefully GI Joe fans are more happy about this. Also Armada Starscream really looks great.

[@DrLockdown]

He's pretty good. Decent Voyager

[@kaylemathewcomendador6964]

I’ve encountered some online that are more into GI Joe than Transformers and they usually consider this and the Bumblebee to be good GI Joe toy’s, but lame Transformers toys.

[@jaredhebert942]

3:12 That is dedication to your craft, I salute you

[@DrLockdown]

Thanks mate. My recommendations certainly don't :p

[@krishacz]

i was NOT expecting a hbomberguy reference in my transformers review but i very much welcome it

[@DrLockdown]

Hbomberguy is great

[@Boomtron-jv9uv]

I was hoping I wasnt the only one to get it. X>

[@Yesitsmyrealname]

The Best Part of this Review are Cliffjumpers Retirement and the Subscriber Joke. The rest is awesome but I died at those bits

[@DrLockdown]

He's earned a break

[@TheAutisticOwl]

Coming back to this video, it almost feels like this set was an easter egg for Skybound Megatron

[@mineturtledabrave3796]

The magician has returned! Wait, if he’s back and you’ve set cliffjumper free from his role as the parts forming joke, does that imply he will undo his past atrocities? Now that I think about it, the statute of limitations hasn’t passed yet so it’s doubtful.

[@DrLockdown]

Hes always there.

[@roonis418]

Great review as always man. I canceled my order once I saw how hollow megatron was. It sucks about that third party company as well. I was hoping for a good soundwave hiss tank to add with megatron and bumblebee to have a nice little G.I.Joe cross over shelf. I enjoyed the cross over comics and was hoping to get some of the designs in plastic form. Like Optimus Prime was a Hiss tank because they were captured by Cobra while they were asleep in the ark. And a lot of the autobots had Cobra vehicle forms. Oh well. I'll just stick with collecting legends for now since iron factory is starting to show figures again (besides the samurai line). Keep up the great work. Always excited for your next review.

[@Nessie7205]

First found this selling for the same price as a Voyager a few months ago, now it seems to be selling at the price of a Deluxe

[@thebackcorner1427]

wonderful video! Do you think you'll be covering magic square's recent masterpiece optimus? it's a really interesting piece to examine because magic square has a constant habit of overcomplicating their legends transformations, but this MP outing (MS-02 light of peace) seems to be one of the simplest G1 MP opimus primes out recently. People are even calling it an upscale of the legends one!

[@DrLockdown]

No interest in it I'm afraid. Sorry about that. I've already got three MP10s. I'm good.

[@michaelkeha]

Most Underated Tranformer youtuber on the planet well done my dude

[@rubiconprime1429]

Daaaang, you already got wave 3? I’m still having trouble finding wave 2. Only found Tarantulas and the velocitron lot. Do you recommend Crasher? I did get the Kingdom Mirage (on your recommendation BTW) but was disappointed by both figures. Mirage is clashy and stiff during transformation and Grimlock is just gross (not even some paint could make me feel any better towards him).

[@DrLockdown]

Very much so. She's lush. Also I import from Singapore because Australian retail stinks.

[@evextechreviews]

I love your Vids Mate. They always keep me Entertained. The Only Issue i have is that there should be Abother two Numbers behind that Subscriber Count.

[@DrLockdown]

Hehe. Thanks mate. Perhaps one day.

[@S0n0fG0D]

This looks like that old 3rd party triple changer Megatron. The one that looks like spaghetti.

[@LanceTheAutobot]

Okay that ending got a genuine laugh out of me

[@DrLockdown]

Lol, it was a last minute addition. Figured it would be a waste to hide the dance segment in a second long gag.

[@KRBrickBot]

I'd only get this when it goes on sale for at most $50 USD. And just for the sheer novelty of a large 3.75" action figure-scale Transformer to complement a collection of similar scale not-HasTak carbots. And they're of better quality at retail prices of ~$50~$100.

[@DrLockdown]

At that price it would be more palatable, but still very disappointing

[@aidenmb7932]

I have so many ideas that I want for this line but even if I put aside the ones that are basically impossible, I don't think they could do it

[@wakeangel2001]

When I saw Baroness she made me think of Daria over anything else, it probably would have been better for them to re-release one of the more recent GI Joe figures, they could have saved on mold tooling AND it would look better.

[@DrLockdown]

Nah apparently this is what they shat out to cover the "reissue" quota

[@Doomguy7274]

I love the video keep up the good work

[@DrLockdown]

Thanks mate

[@StrykerPrimeProductions]

I’m gonna be honest, when you popped into of the video Doc, it actually scared the shit outta me. 😂

[@x-modulator4067]

Good to see another vid from you, and it’s always fun to watch you dig into something even if I disagree. You can kind of blame the baroness figures build on a lot of big gi joe fans from what I’ve seen because they’ve been pushing for more o-ring figures, which was the original 80s build the 3 3/4 figures used. They actually had newer more advanced designs in their retro collection, like Star Wars with its vintage collection line. For Megatron, there really should have been more collaboration with the transformers team to get the best of both worlds if possible out of this figure.

[@DrLockdown]

I've heard conflicting stuff about that. Some commenters have said fans were pushing for the o rings, but my friends who are into GI Joe are saying nobody was asking for that. Dunno what to think at this point

[@x-modulator4067]

@@DrLockdown I put that together because I saw a lot of people asking for more o-rings on the hisstank forum but it might be different elsewhere, anyway great vid and I hope you’re doing well.

[@DrLockdown]

Actually since the the last comment we got apologists in the comments, so yeah it's a thing

[@ignite5329]

Love this video a lot tbh, it tackles everything I hate about the figure, just a side question tho, how is Armada starscream, a good or bad figure ?

[@DrLockdown]

Pretty good. Lotta clever stuff in show, although I have personal bias for the T30 one

[@ignite5329]

@@DrLockdown that's awsome to hear tbh, since I really need him with my fanshobby Armada megatron (although I hope hasbro will make a cyclonus and demolisher at a later point in time)

[@pimagna]

I'm not a GI Joe fan by any means, but I am a bit partial to the HISS Tank design, so I was slightly tempted by this figure upon the leaked listing. But once the photos showed up, it was dropped from my list immediately. This review definitely solidified my decision. Speaking of bigger figures, I just got Black Zarak from a Best Buy sale. He's my first Titan and as much as I tried to anticipate his size, it still didn't prepare me for receiving him in hand. He's fantastic, especially with the double Headmaster. Helps scorpions are my favorite animal. I'm not planning on getting it, but you said in a previous post you had gotten the Upgrade Kit for Black Zarak. Any chance you could share if it substantially improves him or not?

[@DrLockdown]

I'd say it really does. DNA has hit their stride on upgrade kits. The kit really helps with the proportions. Black zarak is great without upgrades, with them he's even better

[@pimagna]

@@DrLockdown Thanks for letting me know. Maybe it's something I'll pursue down the road, but at this point I'd being paying more for the Upgrade Kit than I did for Zarak himself. So I'm holding off for now.

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah a lot of kits end up like that :p

[@devilwithin1738]

quick question, which megatron toy is worse? tf collab GI joe megatron or tf authentics titan changer megatron (the evergreen design)

[@DrLockdown]

Never got that one. Can't say

[@masterfarr8265]

how does the nemesis prime effect apply to the creatures collide set?

[@DrLockdown]

Ransack. Everything looks better in black

[@Thomas_Name]

Every time I look at the Needlenose bts thread on tfworld I see people suggesting more inappropriate retools than the previous. It's absolutely hilarious.

[@magnachemmayhem]

To be honest I was kinda hooked in on the novelty of it being an actual GI Joe crossover thing... But I cancelled my order after seeing this video because I havent seen many other reviews bring up the budget not matching the quality. Maybe all of it went to making that box look super radical, I guess! Great video though. Had my doubts about Megs and this more or less confirms it. Funnily enough I only cared about keeping it in tank mode and messing with Baroness but with the price being brought up a lot it made me reconsider a lot.

[@DrLockdown]

Glad I could help. I'm sure there will be other hiss tanks on the market at cheaper prices, provided you don't care about scale. And even then, it's a fan favourite vehicle. They'll do another, minus the transformer part

[@magnachemmayhem]

@@DrLockdown Haha yeah, there'll definitely be more. I probably could've gone for the Haslab one, since this just kinda fumbles the ball as both a GI Joe vehicle and a Transformer. Thanks again for the review!

[@stephenmiller4091]

Baroness is a rerelease of the original ARAH line. I wish they continued the updated articulation 3.75 line, but #Hasbro cancelled it in favor of retro rereleases.

[@papersamurai00]

When I saw pictures all I thought was "why is this one not a new character design like all the others? A cobra BAT trooper's look would blend well, plus it'd feel like a Cobra copy-job mech to mix in playtime battles. And now, having seen the announced Soundwave, there's little hope for better. A bloody shame.

[@devilwithin1738]

11:36 bringing the legacy minerva figure into the review reminds me that I actually got the figure at a GameStop just yesterday which is weird because she was depicted as a Walgreens exclusive. but, there she was. fresh on a shelf at a GameStop. in Canada of all places.

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah apparently a lot of Walgreens stuff end up at GameStop in canada

[@devilwithin1738]

huh... well I guess that's ok as long as we somewhat get those kinds of exclusives around here. speaking of which, my only experience with the collaboratives line is with the Draculas figure and its a lot of fun. the main reason that sold me on getting it in the first place was the price. at first I believe it was around $75CAD but I wouldn't get it because I didn't think it was justifiable for what is essentially a 5 year old deluxe remoulded and repainted to look like a 90 year old horror movie monster. then, later down the line, it ran for about $53CAD but I still wouldn't get it. but then, the day after thanksgiving, I saw 3 copies of the figure on shelf, at a toys r us at no less, for, I kid you not: $26.50. yeah as you can imagine, I snatched one up when I got the chance. thank god I waited otherwise I would've regretted my decision one not giving the patience. good timing too. I was hoping to get the figure for halloween so, hey! sweet timing toys r us!

[@GatorRay]

Oh god. Can't get over how weird it feels to know that Walgreens exclusive Transformers are a thing. I've got a feeling that if Legacy does a new version of TFAnimated Ratchet. It will be Walgreens exclusive because well. They're a drug store.

[@devilwithin1738]

@@GatorRay yeah I think its was like two days when I did get minerva is when I figured out that all the Walgreens exclusives that were released since siege were medical bots. (with the exception of siege red alert both regular and Netflix I think)

[@DrLockdown]

Walgreens seems to do all the ambulance colour exclusives (siege ratchet, kingdom red alert, legacy Minerva). The only exception is Earthrise, because bluestreak...isn't...

[@saygoodbye-sfm]

Honestly I wish this wasn't held down by the constraints of the g1 design, they could have easily given megatron a black colour scheme at least for his torso and helmet (kinda like the g1 comics) so that everything meshed together better and then made the "shield" his chest, maybe with an inside out gimmick where one side has the cobra insignia and the other has the decepticon insignia. Something like that would at least have been a better justification for the parts-forming.

[@darkfury2555]

I feel like they could have easily made the parts-forming but into the chest if they had a bigger budget

[@DrLockdown]

They had a bigger budget. The figure is absurdly expensive as is, and they aren't paying licensing fees to anyone. It's a choice, not a compromise

[@mashman1287]

Loved this review, mate! It really hurts to see a novel concept go into such a deppressing road, especially when it's the case for series that even the company itself owns. Hard to say what they even think of doing for collaborative projects, but I feel like they need to make a miracle for it to turn out good. Also, I'm surprised to see you got some of Legacy Wave 3 now! Hope it's not too much of a bother, but was there any specific one you have handled that impressed you so far?

[@DrLockdown]

Minerva and crasher. Both are fantastic

[@KilosFoxo]

Thr back of the vehicle mode could have rotated around and had the head fold out of there to form the chrst

[@DrLockdown]

It could've done anything. They just chose not to bother

[@TTHBLOX_]

Even tho there is a curse. Gigawatt is still the one that broke it

[@DrLockdown]

Sadly he's one of the few that turned out alright

[@speeddemon5339]

They could have just made it so Megatron’s head folds into the torso. Yeah, we’d still see Megatron’s chest in the back of the tank, but at least it’s easier to explain away or doesn’t use parts forming.

[@DrLockdown]

The lack of care on show is staggering

[@sebastianorduzo322]

23:15 Nice HBomberGuy reference. Also, unrelated but, what's your favorite video game movie? (regardless of quality and faithfulness to the source material, of course).

[@DrLockdown]

Ace Attorney

[@sebastianorduzo322]

@@DrLockdown Huh. One more thing, thanks to the Bayonetta 3 controversy, I feel bad for most voice actors on the entire f*cking planet who are being treated like trash by studios these days, especially now.

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah heard that too. Really sucks that platinum is being cheap. There's been a visible difference in how they do business since the Tencent buyout. Not enough to make me boycott the game, but it is messed up

[@galovicmedia]

I'm from Croatia, and being a Transformers fan there is...diffucult to say the least. #1 The prices- 1 US dollar is 7.5/8 kunas, which is a lot. These days, your retail Deluxe costs 250 kunas, and a year or so ago, they cost 150/200 kunas. Voyagers are now almost 300 kunas and before they were 250. If US dollars and kunas were 1:1 pricewise, a regular voyager would cost 280/300 US dollars. Yikes. #2- Distribution- For me, there are 3 ways I get Tf figures, going to a shop which has barely any new waves of figures, going to online shops which overprice their products a lot and buying second-hand figures from older lines (tf movies, unicron trilogy etc.)

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah sounds very similar to my mate over there.

[@Alexprime-ve1od]

Tecnically yes sound wawe as been made a version that become this tank but not in reality it appened in the transformers heartwars videogame

[@n_ex13]

I love this design so so much but the mass amount of hollow spaces, especially the hollow arms, drag it down and with the parts forming and the partner minifig make it impossible for to justify buying it

[@Kudzooo]

Cliffjumper has been outdone and can rest now. Never thought I’d see the day.

[@DrLockdown]

It's just more appropriate

[@o.8.p149]

I honestly wish they would have made a new character and not megatron witch probably would have made the figure better

[@DrLockdown]

After the sales of this, they probably won't do new characters again. The main five (prime, bee, megs, soundwave and Starscream) sell like hotcakes

[@quotastrider801]

OUR FAVOURITE WIZARD IS BACK OH MY GOD

[@DrLockdown]

Better call the police. He's a wanted man

[@alexholker1309]

5:15 I'd just call it an anti-slip or non-slip surface. If you haven't completely written off Australian retail, you might be interested to know JB Hi-Fi has Transformers toys. I was surprised to find a Legacy Elita-1 at my local store after the usual department and toy stores turned up blank.

[@DrLockdown]

Yes...I mention JB hi fi in the video. It's getting better, but so was EB two years ago, before they went to shit again. I'll believe this is a change for the better when I see long term consistency.

[@alexholker1309]

@@DrLockdown So you did. Sorry, I wanted to answer your anti-slip question but should have waited to the end before posting.

[@DrLockdown]

Ah yeah fair enough :D

[@bequiet5373]

I’m kind of glad this figure isn’t getting released in the UK, outside of limited numbers on pulse

[@DrLockdown]

You've been spared a terrible curse...

[@spanglezekankleplushapalooza]

Usually I watched your videos to get an alternate perspective on figures since I tend to be a bit too nice to them, but after watching this video, yeah this thing deserved everything you gave it. There's just nothing excusable for something like this at the price point it has anywhere in the world, and as someone who liked Cliffjumper well enough that I was able to look over the bad partsforming, yeah I have no excuse for it on this figure, this is just BAD, I think I gasped when I first saw it in the video too.

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah apparently many people haven't even picked up on it, because youtubers don't mention it often...even when it's this figure's defining feature...

[@geo-fry6372]

I’ve got three comments: 1) as a fan of ER Cliffjumper, I’m happy to see him no longer used as a punching bag (totally understandable why you did use him as such) 2) The hbomberguy reference was NOT expected; I started coughing because of how much I was laughing. 3) I feel like if this figure was released around 5 years ago, and for a bit lower price, everybody’s opinion on it would be more positive. However, in the context of when it came out and the quality of it’s contemporary figures, it is definitely a disappointment

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah absolutely doesn't hold up to legacy or ss

[@hobartpaving8986]

When do we get a transforming Action Force Roboskull?

[@HjFaiz]

Agreed that if they ever do a Thunderbirds transformer I’d probably buy it day one

[@DrLockdown]

Honestly same. I'm a simp for the Thunderbirds

[@Majinhero]

how to have fixed the parts folding: make it fold and become his chest plate. done. it would have even helped to make the vehicle more part of his body.

[@DrLockdown]

Apparently G1 accuracy was more important than that...for shame...

[@flamedude6849]

From what I understand, as from what the That Toy Guy said, this figure was made by the G.I.Joe team and not the regular transformers engineers

[@DrLockdown]

I keep hearing that. It's something I need to research, because I'm not seeing much definitive proof

[@jeebus2313]

As both a fan of TF And G.I. Joe, these collaborative figures should have been a dream come true. A transforming HISS tank that actually scales and works with Joe figures? Hell yeah, that sounds awesome! ...and then you look at the final product and go "...oh."

[@jacobrjager]

It looks pretty close to like what the Hiss tank I had back in the 80's did, it's the robot mode that really kills this set and even my 80's Baroness had more paint and the glasses/eyes? Why'd they do that?! As far as the elastic waste, it's actually real easy to maintain and lasts quite a while. It's very much the 80's style build and has a wonderful screw making replacing the elastic super easy... usually Far as Cliffjumper is concerned, you don't even have to take the back off, it has a place in robot mode and could have been left attached somehow but things like Ironhide's roof and this thing's back are ridiculous. They have no way of integrating with the robot other than to be a dumb looking shield...

[@shanezielinski7418]

I bought this (and it'll be here soon) despite the bad reviews. The face colouring and bland chest are the biggest problems. I do wish they'd fixed up the cannon, but I am sure someone will make a mod kit to help with that (and some other stuff to fix other ugly open areas). As for Baroness, I think you're a bit off in saying she links TF and GI Joe, because its the Hiss Tank itself that links it. The figure is just a reminent of a requirement to give an exclusive figure with a 'play toy' just like all (? I'd say most) the Joe vehicles beyond the cheapest price point one's (from the 80s). But the real problem is HASBRO generally. The pricing of TF is still less severe (and a lot more accessible) than the current GI Joe stuff, which has increased in price considerably. I watch some of the Joe fan channels and the sheer Hell they go through from Hasbro - from price increases, delays in distribution (we're talking 6+ months), announcements for things several waves ahead of what has been released. Also in the UK Hasbro would (starting shortly) only sell their Joe stuff from Hasbro Pulse... A thing the USA and the UK have. Where that leaves Aussie Joe fans long term, who knows... Possibly no Joe stuff because we are NOT allowed to buy stuff from Hasbro Pulse (nor will we ever get our own version to order from). Hasbro is making record profits and somehow is still imploding. Expect some serious missteps to happen with TF stuff before too long.

[@alectech5435]

23:20 clever reference mate

[@DrLockdown]

Haha, poor old Ben... actually...no... deserving old Ben...

[@TheSpideyWing]

Looks like he can hold around 4 figures? Yees, Megs is the bus!

[@DrLockdown]

No, that's eunie.

[@LuucT25]

you know a figure is good when it single-handedly manages to bury the dead horse that was ER-Cliffjumper AND force you to say something good about MS-Ragnar

[@DrLockdown]

Still dislike Ragnar more, but the hubris on this figure is way worse

[@LuucT25]

@@DrLockdown yeah, Ragnar's shittiness is on a whole 'nother level, but the fact that this thing- this insult in plastic form, managed to get you to compliment Ragnar in any capacity at all is quite an achievement, tbh

[@WARPATH-sr5ci]

KABOOM! So the pegs on the back of the Hiss tank are foot pegs to stick figures on the back like in the box art, comic, and even show. The Baroness is also a reissue from the 80s because 40th anniversary ressons. Also, modern joes don't use O rings because in the late '90s/ early 2000's they brought it back. But, they were so low quality and they were also glued together so nobody could even replace them if they did snap. So, after a lot of backlashes, they changed and now use ball joints and hinges.

[@DrLockdown]

It's not actually the original baroness mould. It's a recreation from the ground up. They could've fixed the issues, but chose not to.

[@WARPATH-sr5ci]

@@DrLockdown That's a shame. It would have been better if they used the Retro Collection Baroness mold since it uses the modern articulated mold of her. Also, it's super rare I only got through shire luck at Power con 2021. Fun fact the Retro collection Cobra Trooper mold is by far the most articulated figure mold in the entire line.

[@DrLockdown]

Some commenters here say the mould was lost. Dunno about the validity of that, but either way using an O ring on a modern designed figure is super dumb

[@WARPATH-sr5ci]

@@DrLockdown Do agree that O rings are a meh concept these days and yes a lot of GI joe moulds were lost to time including the Baroness.

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah, as I said in other comments, it's like remaking g1 mirage and keeping the brittle waist assembly

[@TheDarthranc0r]

The issue with baroness is that iy is the original fivure mold. But the plastic isnt the same as the original. I think they were hooing to okease the retro collection people who were mad at their retro line because they were just retooled 25th anniversary figures and not the original retro ones.

[@moosiefate]

I have mixed feelings about this crossover. As a Transformers fan it seems to commit so many sins but still appeals to me. As a Joes fan I’m super excited because you can now have Megatron deploying Alley-Vipers and then supporting their advance! I managed to pick it up on sale 90 AUD from gamesmen in Sydney so I’m actually more okay with it at that price point.😊 On a hilarious note, I’d hate to ride in the troop compartment at the back of that tank. Could you imagine six dudes sitting in there with Megatron’s complete upper torso as the back wall?!

[@alexisislas-gonzalez5991]

Put in mini shockwave (yes both could work) at the turret you got the greatest shitpost

[@moosiefate]

@@alexisislas-gonzalez5991 Now you have me wondering if Megs could wield legacy shockwave as a gun!

[@GatorRay]

@@moosiefate Maybe if he became a combiner with some other Decepticons.

[@wendi6905]

I fucking gasped when you revealed the partsforming

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah other commenters claim other youtubers gloss over it... ...gotta ask..how...

[@HardHeadtfreviews2008]

Vorn most likely heard you talk about cliffjumper You can’t escape

[@DrLockdown]

He is eternal

[@speeddemon5339]

It’s basically a really big deluxe.

[@DrLockdown]

The average deluxe has better articulation than this

[@straker454]

The ONLY Collaborative figures I have and like are Ectotron and Gigawatt. Gigawatt because he's good and Ectotron because you're totally wrong about that figure. I MIGHT consider that Maverick figure if he didn't look like he was cast out of wax or if they fixed his issues and did a Go-Bots homage to Leader-1 out of him but that aside, the rest blew chunks and I could see that easily. Sorry you got this figure but I'm not sorry as this review is the result and it was hilarious. Thank you!

[@ApologeticPyro]

How did you get the new velocitron stuff?!

[@DrLockdown]

Imported from Asia. Gave up getting things locally

[@ApologeticPyro]

Makes sense

[@GhostPrimeReviews]

I'm sure it's been said... this is a reissue of the 80s Baroness. The Tank is actually very close to the original. Megatron is well.... yeah

[@DrLockdown]

It's not. I've compared the two and it's slightly different, and several comments have pointed out the original has been lost anyway. They had to make a new mould from the ground up, and they could've put better hardware into the joints easily.

[@arkhamknightrider4361]

What’s the song that plays at the end.

[@DrLockdown]

Sonic mania, press gardens, act 2

[@_V.Va_]

I read somewhere that they got people who've never engineered Transformers to engineer this one. FUCKIN SHOWS, DONT IT?!

[@DrLockdown]

Nah the engineering has some great stuff. I'm guessing it just had it's budget slashed.

[@_V.Va_]

@@DrLockdown So I'm guessing all the budget went to making it bigger. Not into articulation, meaningful engineering to avoid egregious partsforming , or avoid waffling...

[@DrLockdown]

Eyup

[@acem7749]

Glad I canceled my pre-order on this one... It's meant to be I'll get it nice and cheap and if not I won't lose any sleep..

[@spudthespudgungamer7112]

This is the first time I’ve heard a figure being called underpriced

[@DrLockdown]

Well it's not given the budget it needs. Sized out of its price bracket might be more accurate

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

Hahah, hello TJ X'D I think the general issue is that Hasbro has something of a habit of making the GI Joe cross-overs the same way a lot of the old GI Joe toys were - flimsy as hell, and hollow EVERYWHERE. No idea why. Hasbro, we were NOT nostalgic for the fact that GI Joe toys can break with only the slightest bit of pressure! I should know, I owned the Action Force (yes, that's what they were called here in the UK) Mobile Command Centre, and holy hell does that thing break if you so much as sneeze on it. It's like it's made of tissue paper.

[@GatorRay]

It would be like LEGO making new versions of the OG Hero Factory team toys. All the way down to using the same way to easy to break socket system from Bionicle that was used for WAY TO LONG!

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

@@GatorRay Oh, don't remind me. I broke so many of those! Those socket joints were WAY too thin >.

[@GatorRay]

@@Tazer_Silverscar Agreed

[@awesomeguy9513]

The megatron is definitely lacking in robot mode. yes they wanted a big named character like megatron but that restricts it to Megatrons design I wonder if they did an original character the robot mode might look better, bumblebee looks alright but the tires are probably gonna make posing hell. Also does Australia get figures earlier than NA? I mean in Canada stuff is slow even online still waiting for the single pack wreckers to show up. Luckily I’m not waiting for stuff like this megatron ain’t waiting weeks to show up

[@DrLockdown]

Nah I import from Singapore. I've given up on Aussie retail. Half the stuff never shows up at all

[@GR-ic7mt]

Tank looks sweet at least

[@dialNforNinja]

I think it says all that needs to be said about this figure that the thing I'm bringing away from the video is the word "dollarydoos." I'll be adopting that like I did "No worries."

[@DrLockdown]

Lol. It's an Aussie thing. Dollarydoos for Australian dollars, freedom bucks for American.

[@cartkart1]

i love ectotron he’s just aaaaaa i love him

[@DrLockdown]

Personally never liked mine. Ended up selling him off. In hindsight though, he was was better than what was to come

[@joncrawford3265]

Doc, GI Joe has always had the rubber O-Ring. It's always had the same issue

[@DrLockdown]

It's been over thirty years. Time for a change

[@threeerasers4873]

Honestly, I think this line is kinda cool. I think I’ll wait until hasbro dies jetfire as the sky striker

[@hijous]

23:15 that got me rolling 🤣

[@DrLockdown]

Lol. Thank hbomberguy for the reference

[@GatorRay]

@@DrLockdown Kudos to him. I've heard of breaking the forth wall. But THAT. Is on a whole other level.

[@seed4212]

the best GI Joe Megatron update is 3rd party TFC Toys STC-02 Dominator Megatron

[@DrLockdown]

While that's probably by default, since the competition is this and titanium's worst figure, I have heard good things

[@seed4212]

@@DrLockdown Collaborative GI Joe Megatron every time i see that hollow part, is remind me the bootleg toy

[@DrLockdown]

It does feel like a bootleg at times

[@ruslanantonov9981]

Imagine being so bad, that cliffjumper is the better of two choices

[@DrLockdown]

Cliffjumper also doesn't cost the price of a commander

[@Cdr2002]

SG Magnus getting a lot of background play in this review

[@Cdr2002]

The GI Joe situation is a weird one to me. In the fiction, the combination of the two franchises has proven exciting or at least cause for intrigue, especially in recent years in the comics and movies. The toys… have consistently had issues it would seem, though I haven’t heard anything about GI Joe Bumblebee. Frankly, I think Hasbro probably should’ve plugged transformers into GI Joe as life support years ago. They’re a good blend in the right hands

[@deltadark2665]

Congrats to Cliffjumper on his retirement!!

[@DrLockdown]

He'll probably go on a cruise or something :p

[@deltadark2665]

@@DrLockdown he earned this one

[@DrLockdown]

Lotta work being a running gag

[@robowarrior369]

"hm, half of people watching aren't subscribed, I wonder the reason..." DrLockdown: 28:00

[@DrLockdown]

Lol I don't actually care if people are subscribed or not

[@robowarrior369]

@@DrLockdown If you're satisfied with your fanbase that's enough man. Why bother racing with everyone else who have better distribution to review the newer stuff just for the sake of views and subs. At least you have personality unlike guys like PrimeVsPrime. Few years ago his channel was basically nothing.

[@DrLockdown]

I was offered stolen samples like he gets some time back, but I'm also a collector. I'd rather get my figures from a place where QC is better, and I'm not made of money either. Those samples are hundreds of bucks each. But yeah, I'd rather just have slow and steady growth. More sustainable that way :p Just commenting on the annoyance of the 'only x% of viewers are subscribed' trope