Optimus Prime: RID2001 VS Cybertron | Transformers 2000s | Doctor Lockdown Reviews 150

[@DrLockdown]

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[@mrgodzillar6403]

As the owner of my original Hasbro Cybertron prime from 05, everything is still solid as a fuckin rock. Including the wheel springs. He was my favorite prime and actually only prime until I got the og Armada who's arm I shattered (gps). And then when I bought LE Armada prime, Cybertron prime was finally dethroned.

[@KwakyWacky]

Rid '01 Prime feels like a triumph while Cybertron Prime feels like victory lap. One, the payoff of going all out on a new design approach transitioning from the Beast Era, the other, a proud display of the perfected unicron trilogy engineering.

[@DrLockdown]

That... actually describes them really poetically...

[@DBZ12714]

We can't forget that the megatron figures that came out with these 2 were absolute bangers too. Complete props on the designers for making amazing leader figures for each series.

[@Vavalry]

For me Optimus Prime will always be…optimus prime. Yeah idc what alt mode he takes Ive lived through every major change of his design throughout my life so to me all his alts modes are equally valid

[@infinimineyt9700]

As I believe the TFWiki said Hasbro agrees that “Optimus Prime is Optimus Prime is Optimus Prime” regardless of continuity

[@killerwolff3048]

What are your thoughts on dragon train optimus from Japan

[@Vavalry]

@@killerwolff3048 I don’t see how its any different to rescue bots trex optimus prime. Optimus prime is optimus prime

[@killerwolff3048]

@@Vavalry fair enough

[@MellowGaming]

I do like a fire truck Prime. It makes sense to me for him to have a form that represents protection and safety. Something the humans will see and know he's someone trustworthy. Which, is also why I think Sentinel Prime being a fire truck in Dark of the Moon was a superb choice. You trusted that fire truck? Whoooops!

[@Xeno-The-Wanderer]

Also a pattern of being pretty well liked Optimus primes are fire trucks… or that’s just my bias I like every Optimus that was a firetruck

[@daltonwilliams1723]

Also gives the trailer something to do rather than just being a hollow box of plastic

[@mayday2237]

This was one of the things I LOVED from transformers animated. They took it even further and had all of the autobots specifically taking the alt modes of first responder vehicles.

[@False_Convoy]

43:47 100% is a reference to Lio Convoy. Since Fire Convoy does exist in the G1 timeline, he is outfitted with an Energon Matrix like Lio Convoy. One of my favorite details on the toy. Love when transformers has consistent technology. So cool.

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah, tyleen thought so too, hence the annotation

[@obsessivefanboy7]

Ironic, I got both of these toys for Christmas in 2005. I couldn't decide which one I liked more, I loved them both equally.

[@Xeno-The-Wanderer]

You were one lucky kid, hope you took care of em well

[@obsessivefanboy7]

@@Xeno-The-Wanderer Oh I did, I still have them to this day and they both still have most of their parts in tact.

[@PointlessProductions-dk5nr]

Living the dream

[@Takeshi357]

One giant issue with Cybertron Optimus is that the springs in his hip ratchets are so strong that _they actually break the plastic wells around them and cause the ratchets to fail completely._ At least, that's what I've been told, but mine are just gone. It is fortunate that his center of weight in combined mode is so good because he can still stand upright despite of that, getting him to stay that way is just a bit trickier proposal.

[@TheAutisticOwl]

If they do remake the RID01 for Generations, i really hope they do a yellow one because i can't stop seeing Yellow Convoy in him

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

You know, considering how liberal HasTak has been with “you exist?” characters over the two years, Yellow Splendid Convoy might have a greater chance at being released than we might think.

[@DrLockdown]

I kinda wanna get splendid yellow convoy after doing this video. God damnit, research making me wanna buy toys.

[@sophieprime4669]

​@@DrLockdownDAMN YOU, TOYS!!!!!

[@TheAutisticOwl]

@@DrLockdown Same

[@weik-2936]

this is also why I'm against rid2001 Prime being done as a Haslab for one, I'm not sure how you'd justify it as a haslab over a Commander and for two, if its a haslab, the odds of a Yellow Splendid Convoy redeco become less likely

[@treebotreviews]

The Takara version is in my possession as well and it’s my biggest accomplishment in terms of collecting. Just because I was able to grab it boxed from shear luck. And Toy Guy and I were talking, I’m almost 100% certain TF&RO ripped off the force chip. It’s exactly the same. Also another fun fact, the Japanese detail changes make it way more accurate.

[@DrLockdown]

Well yeah, primarily because the anime based their model on the galaxy force version. The toys came first, not the anime.

[@treebotreviews]

@@DrLockdown par for the course ofc. In my video I stressed that unless you’re huge abo it the pinned in wings, I’d just get whatever you can get just to experience the fun of the figure.

[@ghostlybeannie]

53:31 This aged like fine wine but 53:56 this aged like milk lmao

[@-Zechariot]

I feel that the super mode slightly goes to Cybertron. In this case, it seems like a "less is more" situation, and a beauty in simplicity. It takes an already beefy boy, and makes him a tall, imposing, born to be a leader, massive bad ass WITH WINGS, and the backpack adds more depth to the back so it isn't just flat. In my own opinion, I think that super modes that look TOO different from their base form feels like an entirely different transformer, rather than powered up. In RID's case, if I was completely unaware of RID, and I saw base robot mode standing next to super mode, I would have no idea that they are the same transformer. Cybertron on the other hand, you can immediately tell they are the same one, but is powered up and means business. The fact I can tell it's the same figure with an extremely similar robot mode, feels like I actually powered the guy up rather than turning him into something else. Cybertron Prime when in supermode actually FEELS like a Prime in all it's stature. The other while looking great, feels like a red combiner with almost no similarities to both it's own Optimus robot mode, or Optimus in general, other than head design, which we've seen many other transformers have a similar heads. Trying newer concepts and outside the box things is cool, but it doesn't always necessarily mean it worked out perfectly or executes it better than something that follows a tried and true method. This is at least why I think Cybertron edges out in Supermode, at least.

[@KirkWilliamsIsBroken]

Happy 150th Review Doc. Good to see you get a mention in the latest Thew video as well.

[@ardrethshadow9338]

Funny how I didn't get to around to watching this until now, just after they confirmed that Haslab. I never did get to own either of these growing up. RID2001, my mom had them both on layaway and lost them. She bought me the small spychanger versions as a way of saying "sorry." Cybertron Prime, I had to drop out of the collecting game due to my mom and I falling on hard times. That said, looking over the RID Prime and how amazing the original toy was, I am beyond stoked to back the Haslab. Almost as if I'm getting another chance to get both him and Magnus after so many years and after coming so close to almost having them. From the presentation video, it seems as though they've take whatever nitpicks and flaws the original had and did what they could to improve while adding the modern atriculation and engineering. All while making it like a love letter to those who loved and cherished those originals from over 20 years ago.

[@nightlypiano41]

One thing i like to keep in mind is the distinction between Action Figures that are car robots, and Toys that are car robots. CHUG are Action Figures that are car robots. Things like Power Rangers, UT transformers, etc are Toys that are car robots. It's a bit of a vague categorization, probably between the focus on articulation or solidity/gimmicks. Both are valid, both are great, but i see it as something interesting to think about. Also as someone who owns both, they're both the goats.

[@NameyMcNameface123]

As someone who owned both as a child, there's only one winner for super mode - Cybertron. The RiD figure was just a frustrating mess to play with in super mode and would just come apart at the torso/shoulder constantly in play, whilst Cybertron was a solid unit and held together superbly. Also, not sure if I missed you mentioning a couple of extra play features for the two. RiD's ladder can extend to an absurb length and Cybertron's trailer parts can be used to make a weapons platform.

[@Alcastar607]

Turns out the seat on the side of rid optimus prime's ladder can fit a diaclone microman.

[@Not_Jib]

After seeing the newest Haslab reveal Im really surprised how well that RID Optimus holds up (visually at least)

[@jaybeematthewbacarro9001]

I loved RID Prime for how unique he was for his time and I actually got into Transfomers around the Cybertron series even knowing that a childhood friend owned that version of prime back in the day. Without a doubt Prime as a Fire Engine really is a wonderful concept.

[@ThePuff18]

Notice the lack of Energon Optimus

[@nikolaidavidlitonjua8817]

>exceedingly glorified megazord(derogatory)

[@Alzeal07]

I am extremely happy with this conclusion, great video as always!!

[@Scerttle]

Two of my teen favourites. I really like the fire truck aesthetic on Prime. It was cool to see it return in Animated... which was like 15 years ago now 👀

[@Convoy2005SPIH]

1:00 it non official but inspired 2020s Mack anthem

[@pfisch77]

He predicted the next haslab

[@The_guy25]

53:55 They ask you how you are, and you just have to say that you're fine, when you're not really fine, but you just can't get into it because they would never understand.

[@DrLockdown]

Tried putting that clip in, but it made the audio too cluttered

[@Maximalguardian707]

14:45 plastic addict reference

[@johnnytheyoungbosch6624]

I came in rooting for rid optimus as the underdog of the versus, expecting cybertron optimus to win. I guess as they say, always bet on red. Fantastic video by the way and yeah both are amazing.

[@ThePhoto-VerseYT]

To put Cybertron Optimus Prime into perspective, he's basically GaoGaiGar and Leobreaker is his Goldymarg.

[@lmao8698]

12:44 I LOVE THAT RAILGUN/MIKOTO REFERENCE!!!

[@mrsamaritan6881]

My understanding is that the chair attached the ladder of RiD Prime is compatible with Diaclone pilots as a throwback to the original Car Robots that predated Transformers.

[@endman105]

Cybertron prime actually used the flight mode ALOT in the show.

[@mobiusZero2]

Dang dude. This video is underated

[@lonewolfgamingplus379]

That Optimus Prime from Cybertron was the first transformer figure I ever had. Man.. the nostalgic is very real when I look at it.

[@reinamokeymokey4393]

14:43 TJ JUMPSCARE

[@purplewolfranger22]

This is one of those reviews where I have both figures, grew up with both figures, and absolutely LOVE both figures and yeah I admit I have rose tinted glasses. Personally I think both are perfect.

[@matthewbrune5490]

On the note of RiD (2001) I was on the TFW2005 thread for Legacy United Magmatron earlier and one of the commenters brought up Gigatron getting a new mold as well as the size difference between him and Omega Prime (2001 Optimus and Magnus' combined form) was quite noticable as Gigatron only came up to Omega Prime's waist and it got me to wonder if a more modern itneration fo the figures would have the same size differences

[@soundblaster1987reviews]

I grew up with the Cybertron cartoon but didn't get the Optimus toy until my friend James bought it for me at TFNation 2019. Still haven't got Fire Convoy, but fingers crossed for the future.

[@6Cthebest]

Hope you're well! Went back home on a holiday where the one you got me has been resting for the past 10 months. Did not know how much I missed the big lug! Might have someone bring it over so I can futz with it again. Peak presence and play value.

[@soundblaster1987reviews]

@@6Cthebest good to hear from you again, James! Thanks for continuing to support my channel.

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

You know what? You’re making me want an “RID 2000 Universe” Optimus Prime figure in whatever toyline follows United. I’d love a Cybertron Optimus update (GUOP is nice but I’d love a full redo severed from Siege Magnus’s nonsense), but old Fire Convoy needs one more on the grand scheme of things. Also, if you want to know what I’d do to make Optimus fresh again- make him a Unimog (slap some storage containers on his back that contain his Ion Cannon and Energon axe), give him the Powermaster transformation, and give him the Machine Wars chest (so he doesn’t have a faux chest).

[@DrLockdown]

I think machine wars Optimus and thunderclash are massively overdue

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

AGREED. Machine Wars in general is overdue for an update (we’ve already got Hubcap and Hoist’s head and Starscream’s body ready thanks to Buzzworthy Tow-Line and Evolution Skyquake/Dreadwing)

[@Underscorezeus]

And the winner is: Legacy Armada Optimus Prime!

[@harrisonwhaley7872]

I did not expect to see Cyberverse Battle Class Starscream and Ratchet in this video. Tiny ratchet is so adorable lol

[@bingbongtoysKY]

another epic video! Bravo! I love these

[@Quetzalcoatlus_northropi]

Dude you need an RiD Magnus. Seeing RiD Prime and Magnus in their truck modes next to each other for the first time is one of the most impactful moments of this hobby for me. Words don't do it justice

[@DrLockdown]

I've seen it multiple times with multiple copies in person at Michael's house. Perhaps if I find one on the cheap. Stability is my biggest issue with it.

[@Quetzalcoatlus_northropi]

@@DrLockdown yeah Magnus' robot mode is a bit unstable but vehicle and combined mode are too crazy

[@DrLockdown]

Michael has the combined mode resting on the back of his shelf because it can't stand.

[@Quetzalcoatlus_northropi]

@@DrLockdown dang mine is fine but i also have the Car Robots version

[@DrLockdown]

He's got both. Bad luck I guess

[@JV-nm1fy]

Hey doc, got a question for ya! What exactly did Macross do to the idols culture?

[@DrLockdown]

One of the first examples of idol anime. After that, idols became popular, eclipsing mecha.

[@Xeno-The-Wanderer]

Love them both, greatest Optimus prime toys ever in looks and playability, wish my cybertron one had its gun to really feel evened out. Cybertron prime and the whole show he came from really formed almost everything about my taste in things that I endlessly enjoy and continue to enjoy over the years and every bit of praise for it gives me great joy Something interesting is that the cybertron trailer was used only twice in the show as a weapon. A BFG to attack Starscream and Thundercracker, prime didn’t even use it against thundercracker as scattershot got the honor so that’s neat Edit:oh yeah and going back to the Brave series really enhances the enjoyment of 2000’s transformers seeing where so many concepts came from whether it be design or story

[@YvenvH]

What’s the toy name of the little scourge at 8:14

[@DrLockdown]

Spychanger

[@Funnyds44]

Dad's back

[@papersamurai00]

I got the Galaxy Prime from siege, and he's delightful. A few parts of the transformation are a pain, but the look is fun and makes me wanna swoosh him and shout "GALAXY CONVOY, TRAAAANSFOOORM!" It's doing something right. 😁 I'm glad the original is just as cool

[@frenchfriedbagel7035]

You thought I wouldn’t recognize the Astral Chain HQ music in the background. But I did notice. I. Did. Notice.

[@NightmareZerogbs]

Fantastic vid as always, Doc. It just kinda hurts that I don't own either of these!

[@DrLockdown]

Know the feeling. Never was that happy with the red and black one.

[@brooklynitelife9049]

@9:29 what is the A-10 looking figure next to prime?

[@DrLockdown]

Cybertron wing Saber

[@galaxycamerata]

Something Armada and Beast Wars ingrained into me for an ideal Optimus Prime design is that he'd be the burliest of the Autobots, but shorter than the average Decepticon until he went into his super mode. Cybertron's proportions help lend themselves to that in my mind since, on a shelf, the larger head means he looks smaller than he is, and thus the super mode makes him look like he gains more mass than he does. It tricks your brain into seeing a mass shift that isn't there even in the actual show.

[@HardscopeHunter]

I just hope the haslab Fire Convoy fixes a lot of the issues

[@Cdr2002]

Honestly the “am I a joke to you” bit wasn’t too far off from what Big Convoy probably would sound like in English

[@CosmicHase]

To me, Optimus primeas a truck is everything. It feels like a leader

[@josiahsimpson8108]

I had gotten an incomplete version of galaxy prime from a friend when I was seven. It was my favorite Optimus prime but i lost one the the foot things and the windows broke off from year on play. Late later I found a fully complete one for 40 usd. Absolute highway robbery

[@grimlocktheking2010]

yo new video loved the 4 hour video on all wfc figures it was really good

[@davewaren270]

Great VS video. I absolutely adore my 2001 RID Prime. All the modes are absolutely beautiful imo.

[@Jimboliah3985]

14:43 *I had a good chuckle at that.* Does TJ know of his cameo?

[@DrLockdown]

It's just a green screen asset I made. Not a cameo. A reference.

[@animeking1357]

It's a tough pick for me for which one I think is better. RID was my first Transformers show after the Beast era and so he was the first Optimus Prime I ever saw in action but then there's Cybertron Prime with, "oUr wORlds ARe iN daNGeR!!" with the banger theme and his super mode. Both are great figures that I've love to own.

[@iblamerichey]

23:49 my childhood favourite transformers

[@Puzzledtraveller]

Lol at Todd Howard, I got the reference. I do have the RID Optimus Prime and just bought Cybertron Galaxy Force Prime it's arriving tomorrow.

[@BromineBlues-om7yf]

28:46 jokes on you im INTO FLAT GIR- I MEAN ROBOTS!!!

[@jinxtheunluckypony]

These Primes are so cool! I’d love to see a Haslab remaster of either of them.

[@frenchfriedbagel7035]

I didn’t know a thing about RID back when I had the original toy as a kid. I always thought Primes matrix in his super mode was a little chest gun due to the molded scope detail on the panel covering it. Also, it weird that the Matrix is in his super mode and not him.

[@ExaltedArchvile]

The only thing RID 2001 Prime has going, at least for me personally, is the kickass super mode and the flip out cannons on the firetruck mode. Though, I never really cared much for said firetruck mode or the wonky looking core robot. As for Cybertron Prime, he has everything going for him, from the awesome proportions to the visually interesting gribled and angular fire truck mode, not to mention the flight mode and the cyber key functionality. He is straight up the definition of "toyetic" with a chunky conversion that has you making little boom and whoosh noises as you peg various parts into place. So if given the option, I would absolutely go for Cybertron Prime.

[@Pokewhofan03]

Love this review

[@angel901purple]

I have a confession to make I bought the encore a omega prime It’s still on my shelf and it’s holding together so far bit wibbly in the waist though

[@zanddrr8969]

14:28 what optimus prime is that mini one??

[@DrLockdown]

Hybrid style galaxy convoy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWi9n3Vpibd-ocUsi=kjunh3zzdGOAd2AB It's...not very good.

[@zanddrr8969]

@@DrLockdownaw man, i really hope a company revisits it and makes the fixes needed because i really want a well articulated legends class cybertron prime:(

[@DrLockdown]

@zanddrr8969 you're in luck: one actually is. I forget the name tho.

[@zanddrr8969]

@@DrLockdown pls lmk what it is if you ever remember. as of right now i’m gonna try me make a custom of the existing legends prime

[@Majinhero]

you missed the slider on the cybertron prime on his knees that makes his stance wider.

[@DrLockdown]

...huh...did not know that was a thing. Just tried it out. Dunno if I like it. Makes the knees offset from the thighs

[@Majinhero]

@@DrLockdown it makes it so that if he stands up straight the legs don't touch or look like they are one piece, but you are right, i go back and forth on this one on what looks better.

[@nightlypiano41]

I wish the DNA kit for the Seige GU prime was still being sold, i really underrated that guy

[@DrLockdown]

Honestly, I don't think it's needed. All it does is "fix" the proportions on the legs, but the legs on GUOP aren't bad, as he's more putting on boots and a backpack. It's not like Magnus, who benefits immensely from the longer thighs.

[@nightlypiano41]

@@DrLockdown yeah, but I always found the mode proportions really clunky, and i'm definitely a fan of the anime super robot legs of the original one.

[@nightlypiano41]

Oh plus, it gives him a much deeper knee bend and helps out the vehicle mode's front by moving the wheels. Plus, gap fillers!

[@SoloWing88]

I want a modern RID prime so much I got a PotP Inferno and am in the prosses of tryong to mod it. can't get the head right though...

[@DrLockdown]

Check shapeways. There may be something there.

[@martintidy8467]

i appreciate i'm late to the party with this vid.. but i thought the underarm configuration for Cybertron Prime's supermode was a now made official "fan mode" due to the TV show portraying them that way... yet the toy instructions had them as over the shoulder wielding? Wouldnt that explain the lack of "handles"? I mean, under is how i display mine.. due to the show.. but it wasnt how the toy was designed, right? Nice thorough comprehensive comparison video regardless chap! cheers!

[@skuffy4930]

Do you think 2001 Optimus Prime will ever get a modern take?

[@DrLockdown]

I damn well hope so

[@Cdr2002]

Love the 15tn Doctor cameo

[@DrLockdown]

Gatwa slays

[@Cdr2002]

@@DrLockdown Yessss!

[@kylelangdon6724]

My old Cybertron Optimus Prime hasn't aged super well. Missing pieces and the ratchets in the hips are long gone. Again, this is why I'm thankful for Siege Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime.

[@josiaharaki7310]

Will this video get a follow-up comparing Omega Prime to Sonic Wing Mode (and maybe the energon combined supermodes for a laugh?)

[@DrLockdown]

Potentially. I have wing Saber, but I'd probably want to get jetfire and Leo breaker first before than side of things. As for ultra Magnus, that'll happen as soon as I eventually get one.

[@CraftWave26]

What did Macross have to do with anime idols?

[@coldercoronet6248]

Bro, come on. Do you know anything about Macross?

[@hectorz9555]

I don’t look at any of the entries, but the franchise has only been mecha focused in its earliest form. After that, idol girls have pretty much dominated the franchise’s animated media.

[@DrLockdown]

Macross was one of the first instances of idol anime. From there, idol anime dominated Japaneses culture, and mecha waned in popularity.

[@CraftWave26]

Thanks for clarifiyng. ​@DrLockdown

[@corey-cg01]

Don't worry about the springed wheels, for Cybertron prime, they last fine over the years, I would know I've had mine since I was born, in 2005(I lost Cybertron prime two or three years ago in the fire that burned my apartment back in 2021.)

[@TableTopTransformer]

I'm still confused how deathsaurus couldn't have been don't in mainline. Sure you wouldn't get the throne, but does it actually do anything special?

[@DrLockdown]

Denser plastic, extra paint, chrome work, extra accessories. Hasbro has fully acknowledged he was conceived as a commander, but they realised they could make it infinitely better with a haslab budget. The chair I think is stupid, but everything else is nice.

[@dominickbabazadeh9]

18:30 I thought bro made him do a jacko-pose for a second

[@Lio_Convoy]

Aw man! You get samples from Japan? I am jealous.

[@DrLockdown]

Might just be the one time, but we'll see

[@Lio_Convoy]

@@DrLockdown Bruh the most recent item I’ve been offered for reviewing purposes by a company is a leaf blower. I review toys, talk about cartoons, and put abusers on blast. I don’t know why they saw my channel and said “leaf blower”.

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah we get those. I got contacted by a cybersecurity company that seemed super fishy. Told them no. Company was dead two weeks later due to fraud.

[@Lio_Convoy]

@@DrLockdown That’s the WORST. At least in the one I got, I’ll be getting a leaf blower since the wife has been wanting one. I’m going to review it like a toy LOL

[@harpybeagle4931]

18:04 im broke lol, gen selects transmutate and deepcover used up all my funds

[@Fruit_handler]

If fire convoy gets the commander treatment it'll be my second childhood dream toy (first being legacy armada prime)

[@randomguywholikesstuff6536]

Man if only I could find the backpack for my Cybertron Prime Other then that, great video as always

[@brandonbaggaley2317]

Then there’s the backwards compatibility for Cybertron Optimus with Armada/Energon Tidal Wave due to the combination ports for Savage Claw Mode are the same ones used to attach Tidal Wave’s arms. So does Cybertron Optimus now have a Nautical Wave Mode now?

[@DrLockdown]

I initially planned on mentioning such, but I couldn't find photos of it online, so I assumed I was mistaken

[@brandonbaggaley2317]

@@DrLockdown, found an image of Tidal Wave combined with a red and Blue Leobreaker, though.

[@julioayala9054]

Yo doc, I've been eyeing a cute little beast wars powerhug, do u recommend I pull the trigger?

[@DrLockdown]

Never was a fan of the deco on that personally, but that's just me.

[@AfterAllWeAreHuman]

I hope to locate some decent UT stuff on buyee lol

[@IonStudios96]

Love the Doctor Who memes keep it up

[@stefy7234]

Maybe the reason why Cybertron Optimus' mouth looks so odd is because it's a homage to Optimus Primal. Since he had a pretty similar mouth design, which also featured a retractable face plate (even though he almost never used it in the show.)

[@Takeshi357]

Aren't the head wings a homage to Big Convoy as well?

[@DrLockdown]

Beats me. Could be, but they are kinda different

[@Heroduothecomedian]

I guess the first wave of RID prime were actually takara versions and not Hasbro's take because I remember getting him the day the line launched as a per teen at Walmarts and the first time I used the missile launcher gimmick on the ladder all of them went shooting out across my room and I lost a missile lmao

[@Cdr2002]

Agreed on the cyberkeys, they’re just the best

[@Peepin_Clark]

Funny enough I used the 10% off to get a 2001 Fire Convoy for my self. Although it ended up coming without his pistol. Finally getting a Magnus for Omega Prime.

[@WaveSineReverse]

Amusingly, in the US version of Cybertron's toyline, Hasbro re-issued both the RiD 2001 Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus as a 2-pack, putting these molds in the same line as Cybertron Prime Those versions might be a bit more accessible than the original 2001 release in some areas

[@DrLockdown]

Possibly. And likely better built than the encore version.

[@KazuyaMithra]

I would love a new RID Prime, and they'll definitely do one, but it's Optimus and will always be a retail item and not a haslab, as per Hasbro’s own words. The example I always point to is Legacy Lio Prime, which the original toy wasn't even originally released in the United States unlike RID Prime.

[@EnerKaizer]

47:00 Isn't the issue with RiD2000 Prime that they literally can't use the design for new toys thanks to the show basically being partially owned by Disney? This was given as the explanation behind the rather more weird choices for reps of the series in legacy, the originall designs are off limits due to this problem.

[@DrLockdown]

Nope. Hasbro owns the designs, just not the dub specifically for the original show. The reason scourge looked so weird is because there was a miscommunication with the deco designer. It's on the wiki. He thought he was supposed to make a nemesis prime instead.

[@eobardthawne3333]

your logo in the corner is covering one of the scores

[@DrLockdown]

Argh. Damnit KZbin. Think that's an overlay they have.

[@nightlypiano41]

If you *slightly* pull up the torso, RID01 can have a bit of an ab crunch

[@nightlypiano41]

Also idk if it was mentioned in the review but you can peg the pistol into the right of the smaller robot's backpack for some fairly decent storage.

[@HAXRLITSXY]

oh i had that cybertron one as a kid, pretty sure i got it from a garage sale, since i don't remember the back pack....

[@dnprime1737]

"perhaps a haslab" now if only hasbro didn't ban optimus prime from the haslabs

[@weik-2936]

both of these figures demand a commander class update