Installing WinXP in a VM on WinME

Pure. Torture.
Apparently there are much more impressive things that can be done in this arena. But hell if I'm willing to slog through that to get em done.

[@mafia2boy33]

"The 0x000000EA error is caused, in technical terms, when the graphics card of your PC is sent into an “infinite loop” when left idle. This loop causes your computer to get confused and is then unable to re-instate the card when it needs it." Woah, not a surprise that really

[@raven4k998]

infinite loop oh shit not infinite loop

[@RedNoise-hz5nh]

@@raven4k998 infinite loop oh shit not infinite loop

[@raven4k998]

@@RedNoise-hz5nh there there you'll just have to live with the fact that your now in an infinite loop oh shit not infinite loop

[@jensonho555]

I read 25 hours laughed and then cried and then felt bad before watching the video

[@gambia1011]

title.wma smoker edition

[@Mr.Morden]

So when is Windows 10 on a 486?

[@DynamioPL]

@@oceanman505 Even this isn't possible. Windows XP requires at least first Pentium due to CPU instruction set it uses. So I think that some Linux distributions up to 2010 should run on 486 (perhaps Debian 5.0/6.0 or Slackware 13.1)

[@MLGKid420]

Jarosław Rauza at least windows 2000 works on a 486

[@emuspy6761]

@@user-it6nz3rh3z Nope, Ubuntu Server requires a Pentium 2. Gentoo works though. yeokhengmeng.com/2018/01/make-the-486-great-again/

[@OliveIsTyping]

Nah how about windows 10 on a i386

[@raven4k998]

@@oceanman505 no miracle just max out the ram on the 486 and go eat pizza and watch a few movies while it installs

[@AceGamer445]

I am amazed at how smooth the animation was for the 3D Pinball game, despite the fact that it was running inside a software emulated virtual machine.

[@tbs6hdofficial]

Thank

[@markusTegelane]

3D pinball was designed from ground up to run on slow PCs

[@chrism869]

Yeah, I guess the quantum Bigfoot has a lot of horespower, to power trough, persuading him, detrementai difference if it wasnt

[@rebellino43]

18:40 When you forget your pizza in the oven and you see its burnt lol

[@nohandleisavailable]

Police coming 18:40

[@jangelelcangry]

18:43 Now you must run MGS2 on the WinXP on WinME VM.

[@pnnytx]

It's running on 16 colors mode

[@vektor451]

@@pnnytx mgs2 16 color edition

[@tripcodeQ7]

Now install gentoo on qemu running on netbsd :D For license inception.

[@xontinuity]

tripcode!Q/7 That sounds painful honestly so I’m pretty sure he’d do it

[@christiancrank7290]

Compile Arch on Qemu then VBOX Gentoo and run freebsd on a kvm in gentoo

[@resneptacle]

Joe Abtoh If qemu runs with kvm acceleration, that shouldn't be a great issue

[@pswitch9553]

11:20 Error 0x000000EA Fix Error: $ 59.99

[@timecapsule8880]

Essentially how to make Windows ME useful.

[@raven4k998]

don't you just love how installing it has the processor pinned?

[@Caltash]

You are a madman. Would you try installing Windows 2000 on a power mac G4 next?

[@wclifton968gameplaystutorials]

that wont work without a VM since Microsoft never made win 2K for PPC processors

[@tux9656]

Microsoft did actually release a beta of Windows 2000 for PowerPC, but it's for the PReP platform and incompatible with Apple Macintosh OpenFirmware.

[@wclifton968gameplaystutorials]

+tux9656 oooooh never knew that! thanks for telling me

[@Caltash]

That's cool too, but I was thinking along the lines of getting Win2K installed in an emulator, such as QEMU, running on a Powermac G4. :)

[@tux9656]

Caltash That would be prohibitively slow. Emulating x86 on that would give you the performance of a 80386 at best.

[@BladeMaverick]

Out of everything that had a good framerate on the video, it was 3D Pinball. What the hax.

[@LightTheUnicorn]

There was something wonderfully mesmerising about that sped-up section of the files copying...

[@xan1242]

Now try to do the same on a PS2. It took 2 days to install windows 2000 in bochs ps2.

[@kenziewebm]

TempleOS on PS1 or no balls.

[@yosoynacho]

Why didn't you make a video? loolol

[@i_lost_my_bagel]

It took me a like 5 hours to get windows 2000 installed on qemu on a ps3

[@markusTegelane]

I tried starting a preinstalled copy of 3.1 and considering it stays at the Win 3.1 bootscreen for a few minutes (even a 386 can do it in less than a minute just because it is native hardware), I don't want to know how long XP will take to install.

[@blairlohnes8103]

The fact that you persisted through this is a true testament to your manliness and determination. Godspeed Druaga1.

[@gaybrahderpwood]

Future generations will speak volumes of your greatness. Bravo.

[@Jurtaani]

amd duron 1.2ghz with 512mb ram and geforce fx5200 was more than enough for vista back in the days. no it wasen't fast, but it wasn't unusable either. even windows aero worked on it.

[@Zyzzywyz]

Did you slow down the Windows XP Welcome Music purposefully to avoid copyright (if there is even any) or it's to reflect the slow and painful installation process?

[@V1VISECT6]

@asiandoestech If I recall correctly the song is by Savage Garden

[@V1VISECT6]

@asiandoestech XP install theme is named "A Thousand Words" by Savage Garden.

[@V1VISECT6]

@asiandoestech So the song is infact, copywritten.

[@TheGamerWithMore]

According to Genius Lyrics, Savage Garden used a sample of the Windows XP install music (intro.wav)

[@BionicTenshi96]

That's impossible, _A Thousand Words_ dates from 1997, XP wasn't even a project back then.

[@bluemetal04606]

No, I don't want to see Windows 10 on a 486. I want to see the latest Ubuntu on a 486 :P BTW, still waiting for a ps2 (or ps3) linux install on a SSD lol.

[@nilswegner2881]

Tim Cook I don't think Ubuntu will work on a 486, it does not even run on my Pentium 2 and Pentium 3 systems. There are special versions of Linux that work on such old machines but they are very limited and most don't even have a gui

[@tyttuut]

DJ Slinus I got Lubuntu running on a Pentium III 933. I couldn't get Firefox working, but it worked surprisingly well otherwise.

[@nilswegner2881]

The Tyttuutface maybe it's because of my machines that I can't even get lubuntu to boot. My Pentium 3 is a 1 GHz cpu on an Asus cuv4x-m motherboard and my Pentium 2 is a 333 MHz cpu on a msi ms6156 motherboard. Both are via chipsets and both share the same graphics card because I only use one at a time. The graphics card is an old ATI Radeon 7200 sdr so it's also not the best you can get for these systems. The Pentium 3 board even has AGP 4x so I might get a better nvidia or ATI card or even a voodoo 4 but not now. I run windows 98 on both of these machines and I am not planning to put Linux onto them anyways because for that I have my Dell optiplex gx520 that has a much more powerful Pentium D cpu running at 3.4 GHz. My 90s and early 2000s PCs are really only for the old games I play so I don't care if there is not the newest version of an OS on there. And Linux is definitely not really suitable for playing older games

[@SUPERBOBESPONJA1000]

9:14 song?

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

Seeing the Windows XP install use the CPU so aggressively on your video gives me some clarity as to why I was having issues on my end with my latest XP gaming build, and why I had to mount an extra fan on the heatsink. I was getting that same kind of BSOD because the system was overheating.

[@dbozan99]

Neither Windows ME or the Quantum Bigfoot had issues during this whole ordeal, nice! (And no, before anyone says anything, Druaga having driver issues wasn't WinME's fault, it was operator error)

[@humanbeing_]

So first I just have to state (again, for like the fourth time commenting on your videos lol) that I literally just found your channel via the Computer Clan SSD upgrade for the LaCie external drive video. After that video I immediately went to your channel and realized I found a gold mine of superbly funny yet, somehow semi-educational content... And no joke, I have been binging on your content ever since; going on 3+ weeks now. And I'm on KZbin on my iPhone and/or computer (Late 2013 MBP) at least 6-10 hours a day... While I'm doing other stuff mind you, not just dedicating my entire day to KZbin... But anyway ---- My point is I'm amazed at the depth of knowledge you have working with, in, and installing & troubleshooting both classic & current Mac & Windows systems.... YET!!! (lol) the brutal cringe-ness that is your bumbling around with, in & installing Linux Distros. 🤔 Don't take that as an insult, rather I just watched the CHIP video, and you definitely have *some skillz* in BASH/Command Line (command prompt/DOS prompt for you Windows users) and even many of the Linux tools in live disks, some very similar to those in Hiren's boot CD. Yet again, even for me, a user of Windows from 2002 to 2016, and Mac from 2009 to current, just starting with Linux since January 2017; for you some stuff that's totally obvious to me (now being engulfed with and moving Linux) amazes me that you still have trouble with or get side tracked... Again, the reason I'm saying this, is I'm at 5:18 in THIS video and I'm already amazed at all of the commands and knowledge you have to work your way around WINDOWS ME, And Bochs... You're the perfect guy to learn and Excel with Linux! You already possess an incredible skillet with Mac & Windows. And it would have been painful for me to even begin to get Mini V Mac running WITHIN DOS BOX... running in Linux! Hopefully, you will consider making more LINUX videos; may a suggest straw polls via your Twitter again or something. Anyway man. I seriously love your videos. Just fantastic stuff, and hilariously enjoying to watch! So: I'm issuing an OFFICIAL CHALLENGE! Create a new Linux DistrOSeption Video. But, instead of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS as the host, then Ubuntu 16.04.04 and further down, install A DIFFERENT Ubuntu or Debian or Arch-based distro each level down... And only use LTS (Long Term Support) releases so bugs won't be an issue (or excuse) for getting them all to work. VMWare works on Linux. As does Virtual Box. And also maybe look into the virtualization pass-through so you won't have to configure the RAM specs all the way down. (FYI the easiest idea that comes to mind is use Ubuntu 18.04.1 as the host, but then use 'Flavors' on the way down. You already know Lubuntu. Then Kubuntu. Then Xubuntu. Then Ubuntu Budgie... Ubuntu MATE. In whatever order and/or release version. I think you're worthy of the challenge. And if ANYONE can get'er done - it's Druaga1 (shit, that rhymes lol) Cheers! -H.B.

[@tornado02ful]

nice but can you install linux on ps2? or ps3?

[@altpersonas]

PS2 is way too easy. Sony themselves made a kit to install linux on a PS2! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_for_PlayStation_2

[@YamatoHD]

tornado02ful pff, anyone can do that

[@broder3294]

PS2 is way too easy, PS3, nobody tested it yet

[@gnomeddev]

Broder The Hedgehog you used to be able to install Linux on the ps3 but after being hacked Sony stopped it.

[@Supositwaree]

ps3 is easy too sony supported it ( not anymore but you just need to jailbreak it )

[@pikaaxyt]

Windows 10 on pentium 3

[@V1VISECT6]

Druaga1, you installing XP Black Edition? Kinda looks like it.

[@Tomasu82]

Bochs is slow yo. The reason qemu (and virtualbox, vmware, etc) /can/ be fast is it has support for virtualization hardware acceleration.

[@nilswegner2881]

Tomasu82 but how can Hardware acceleration work, if the host machine does not support virtualization in the bios? Or even if the host machine supports it it does not mean that the host OS supports it and in this case, since it's windows me which doesn't support anything at all, that won't work

[@Tomasu82]

I didn't mean to imply he could use it. just that bochs is slow ;)

[@nilswegner2881]

Tomasu82 that's also because bochs is a God damn emulator and not a vm host software. Bochs emulates a Pentium cpu on whatever host you give it, it even works on Android. And that's why it's so slow on this machine. If he would have used a real virtualization host, I don't know any from the back of my mind right now that support ME, it would have been much faster because the cpu would directly have been given to the guest OS without being emulated by a badly coded piece of software

[@Tomasu82]

Sure. Not sure why you seem so upset. I was just making an observation. not criticising anything/anyone.

[@UlzYT]

@@nilswegner2881 vmware was a thing back then :)

[@Keyfaze]

What's next Windows 10 on a 486!? That was beautiful

[@eduardoavila646]

i've had a xp iso that had 4,1gb of crap! It was pretty bad and the machine awready boot slow when you finished installing...

[@loganiushere]

Try to get VirtualBox running in WinXP, and install Vista in ME that way. And use an external drive for storing the HDD image on. It could be USB or another internal drive, whatever.

[@andrewdupuis1151]

i like PCem better

[@LandyRShambles]

I've never seen a madder lad

[@animeloveer97]

Awesome avgn reference lol

[@betamax80]

The limitation has to be the max memory you can use on Win9x - and Me - really it just wont boot with over 1gb, and I use a maxvirtualmem ini file fix to achieve even that. CPU isn't a problem though, I use Athlon XP's and you can go all the way if you choose the right chipset (SiS ones are good), and I believe the same goes for Pentium 4's (no Hyperthreading though). You could conceivably put on something else that is limited to 512mb virtual system memory but anything like Vista is going to SUCK with so little.

[@wclifton968gameplaystutorials]

now install HaikuOS on a virtual machine in IBM OS/2 Warp 4

[@sergeantsucc909]

I am amazed that someone would even think of this but you put it into action thank you Druaga for this video

[@xontinuity]

Windows 10 on windows XP vm but XP is on a Sd Card

[@desumoyo]

"I can't imagine it would take any shorter of time" I can imagine it perfectly, the screenshot with the Win7 VM on 98 was using VirtualPC 5.1, there is a pretty major difference between VPC and Bochs, VPC send the instruction directly to the host machine CPU, Bochs completely emulate a new CPU. Now you gotta try again to install Vista but with VPC instead :D

[@amdcrash2951]

26:11 Druaga1 loses his fucking mind and goes into insanity as he realises he got windows xp to work in windows me as he realises what he is doing with his life.

[@pvc988]

Bochs is known for being ultra slow. Try QEMU next time.

[@Malice11029]

i have one of these bigfoot drives. they're sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo painfully slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

[@hazelpedemonte4464]

Now install Windows 10 on DOS.

[@ciberwing]

Very funny video! Thank you!!

[@TyTytheCat2004]

Have you attempted to use Windows XP RTM with No Service Packs, and No updates, and NOTHING but the bare OS?

[@Main_Protagonist]

Now I am having flashbacks to how long did it get to install Windows XP on the actual hardware of that time. I swear it took minimum 1 hour for me.

[@hammersamatom8055]

"NTFS for Win98" from Paragon Software Group looks like it might let you mount and read/write NTFS.

[@SlyEcho]

I remember running Win 98 in qemu on XP. Was much faster than Bochs.

[@eduardoavila646]

11:15 This is actually a install of extra software that came in your modfyied iso. A clean and normal windows xp iso/cd wouldnt do that

[@eduardoavila646]

Stephen Wilson Yeah, i commented when i got into that timestamp, later i found out XD

[@eduardoavila646]

Jakub Klimczak Yeah, true. But time isnt my ally here.

[@powerslave0606]

What's next? Win10 installed with 5.25 disks?

[@paincreatesfame]

I'm oddly proud of you for being able to do this

[@crsorsmth9951]

This Windows XP virtual machine is actually faster than my friend's first pc. His first pc took like 15 minutes to boot up and it had to run at 640x480 to be clickable. Pinball 3D lagged a shit ton on his pc. (btw he barely used it, because he wasn't a computer guy)

[@compwiz878]

i installed and ran windows vista on a 20gb hdd that was installed in a pentium 2 system that had 1gb of ram but due to bios limitations would only recognise 768mb of ram and was able to go online surf the web and have sound aswell and that ole p2 never overheated or crashed

[@yoshi314]

why exactly did you use bochs? wouldn't some old qemu release work on w98?

[@Starscr34m76]

Druaga1 i love you man

[@seshpenguin]

Use QEMU!!!! It is much more modern, faster, and a very complete and standard base.

[@0error.389]

Use a modern machine to install ME in avm, then install vista on the vm

[@UmmarHassan-bv9eo]

Bob pony installed vista on Windows ME. Lol

[@reki353]

I you ever do anything i say, do this: Do SOMETHING with Windows 2000. Its the best OS EVER. PLZ PLZ PLZPLZ

[@blazinskrub4202]

On a scale of WIndows ME to Windows XP, this video was a solid Windows XP.

[@dylon4906]

I just watched the vista on me video today good shit

[@7cleverboys]

i wanna watch this video right now but im waiting for my dinner to watch so i can eat aswell and be more happy!

[@braelinmichelus]

You sir, have much greater patience and sanity than I could ever dream of.

[@raven4k998]

or maybe he just went off and played on his main pc while it was doing it's thing on that old piece of crap

[@chrism869]

Yeah, I also have the patience to do this, if I had to, I'm precrasinating

[@kokodin5895]

qemu would be much faster emulator and something like vestion 08 or 09 should still work on windows 9x with virtual expanding drive volumes, or even acces to host partitions as drives

[@KurisuYamato]

lol, thanks to the instruction speed increase, 3D pinball runs too damned fast!

[@divasimao5290]

40 minutes of Druaga video. Time to hook up my tv to the computer and relax :)

[@klintfaber886]

Try to install any win9x on freedos

[@Wakanda.Knuckles]

2 things I immediately noticed (regarding the performance): 1. your host OS uses generic VGA driver, meaning there's no video acceleration at all, so the CPU is probably wasting cycles. 2. you're using bochs which is the slowest virtualization software by far as it relies on CPU interpretation only. If you can get qemu 0.11.1 with kqemu (not KVM) to run on the ME, install correct driver for the GPU on the host, and create a fixed size image for the hdd, your virtualized performance should nearly double. Then you can try to install nlited version of Vista or 7.

[@munchlax633]

Also he without noticing setup the emulated CPU to be just 5MHz. Not that it would have mattered much as emulation was already not going fullspeed for the selected hardware.

[@LetsPlayKeldeo]

this deserves so many more views

[@raven4k998]

screams like Druaga1 when something goes wrong

[@Complextro93kg]

Do more videos with Power Mac G5.

[@asbestosstargaming2448]

I tryed to install XP on My IBook and it stuck at 47 minutes on Qemu

[@neonaffliction]

This got me druagaWET

[@desther7975]

Virtual PC on a Power Mac G5 would be a lot faster than that. Bochs is evidently a slow emulator. Given that it is open source, that would not surprise me at all.

[@juhasto91]

You should try to transfer win95,98,me,200 VHDD to physical hdd. I'm having druaga1 like moments when doing this.

[@MaxMacZone]

The one time an SSD would actually be useful.

[@vistafan12]

woah, druaga uploaded something! AGAIN!!

[@ig33ku]

18:43 loads up youtube search for some Solid Man Snake. 35:59 AVGN :P

[@CallumUncensored]

hey smokers, DURAGA1 HERE! oh yeah and hi -you need more subs-

[@jonasseifter8619]

install linux on an nintendo 3ds (actually possible)

[@subg9165]

Jo Jo Linux*

[@amanguver]

It's also possible on a regular DS. And Wii.

[@jonasseifter8619]

*MCPE* *McXreepeR* What? what are you talking about? XD

[@nacabaro3737]

Nintendo 3DS already comes with FreeBSD. Install Android.

[@jonasseifter8619]

nacabaro android is basically linux lol

[@vophuocminhnhat2634]

Intel Workstation/Server GPU-Optimized workstation host machines: Barebone: Intel® Workstation System P4304CR2LFKN - 4U/Tower Barebone - 2x 1600W Redundant Fixed PSU Motherboard: Intel® Workstation Board W2600CR2 (Dual Socket-R LGA-2011) CPU: 2x Twelve-Core Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-2697 v2 2.70GHz 30MB Cache (130W) CPU Cooler: Supermicro SNK-P0050AP4 4U Heatsink Socket-R LGA-2011 Compatible Processor Memory: 128GB (16x8GB) PC3-14900 1866MHz DDR3 ECC Registered DIMM Boot Drive: Intel SSD 750 Series 1.2TB NVMe PCIe Card Hard Drive SATA: 2x 8.0TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM - 3.5" - WD HGST Ultrastar™ Helium He8 (512e) Hard Drive SATA2: 2x 8.0TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM - 3.5" - Seagate Enterprise Capacity v5 (512e) eUSB Drive: WD SillconDrive U100 32GB SLC eUSB SSD DOM Optical Drive: HP AR482AA 16X SATA Blu-ray Writer (SATA) Video Card: 2x NVIDIA® Quadro® K6000 12.0GB GDDR5 (1xDVI-D, 4xDP) PCIe Card: AVerMedia DarkCrystal HD Capture SDK Duo C129 PCIe Video capture card Monitor: 32" LED-Backlit IPS Panel - 3840x2160 (4K UHD) - DELL UltraSharp UP3216Q K&M: Logitech Keyboard K120 (USB) & Logitech B100 Optical Mouse (USB) Peripherals: Cyber Acoustics AC-2014 2pc Speaker System Power Protection: APC Smart-UPS SMT3000 3000VA LCD 230V (2700 Watts Output) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional with Recovery Partition and DVD (DPK) (OA) (first boot drive) Operating System 2: Red Hat® Enterprise Linux® 7 Workstation with Standard Subscription (1 Year Support) (second boot drive) Warranty: 5 Year Advanced Parts Replacement Warranty and NBD Onsite Service

[@DaVince21]

Well done, Druaga1. Well done.

[@nacabaro3737]

Can you make another windowsception episode but on that machine? Jk

[@GenOner]

19:39 that voice got deep fast, also 8 HOURS PASSED!

[@StevenOBrien]

fake music, wrong pitch, dislike. 0/10

[@andresbravo2003]

this is your chance? wow. i really love win XP. ;-)

[@broder3294]

One time i remember watching watching a video that someone got running windows 95 with a i486 (hope writted it right) but on a ACTUAL PC, not on a VM, now i want to see you doing it (maybe i'm wrong, but it was on a really potatoe cpu)

[@dyter424]

Win95 on a 486 is nothing special, really. Did you mean 386 maybe?

[@broder3294]

Davide424 maybe it was the i386, i was like years since i dont watched that video, i forgoted what cpu used that dude to get running windows 95

[@IanC14]

486 is easily within the specs for Windows 95.

[@Icarusv2x]

For his next trick he will install Windows Server 2003 R2 on a $400 Juicero Juicer which can't be bought anymore cause they went out of business.

[@nigelcooper1191]

Windows XP in 256 or 16 colours makes me feel sick!! This is because in these low of colour depths XP doesn’t try to look good. Windows 2000 and lower do it fine.

[@mdamaged]

15:48 wtf was that?

[@Mewtwoisabeast]

i have a feeling this isnt gonna work

[@Polygraph2131]

so do i

[@nickbakaj322]

So did I

[@IwanJames]

Chadwick Garman same

[@themole4534]

+Chadwick Garman Jokes on ye, it kinda worked.

[@emilianzawrotny367]

But Bochs isn' t a virtualization tool, it' s an emulator.

[@themole4534]

Druaga1 you didn't know microsoft virtual pc exist?

[@Headshotnoby]

18:45 is that The Trump Card II from TrackMania i hear?

[@chrism869]

I don't need to do this, I don't want to suffer, I was just from my first outing, that's what did In my legs, it hurts. It depends on by what yore looking at

[@nate5862]

Couldn't you just use physical discs instead of ISOs? The ISOs would take a lot of space that you could have devoted to the best operating system :D

[@nate5862]

Die Gutesten yeah, I said that in the beginning and I kinda feel stupid now

[@KyleMcCoolx]

I have been looking i remember seeing Druaga's main computer having a IDE/sata dock inside the case and i cant seem to find that anywhere nor can i find the vidoe i seen it in, if anyone could help me out would be amazing :D

[@SAMISCOOL510]

i miss the days of weed and 420 jokes , they are why i came here, i stayed so i could see a man try things with blind luck and it's fucking glorious

[@mateusdsrs2000]

Hey, i know what exist a version vmware compatible with win98 and winme, i remember that i had used

[@ThatPlasma]

i love long videos

[@ivancomp_inside]

it will faster installing Windows 7 super nano lite on this VM (it was faster on my android phone)

[@xDarkZerox3]

No shit bro, but from 13:20 to 13:27 you sound like Baldi from Baldis basics in education and learning.

[@user-jp1yd2ut9r]

windows 10 on a windows 8.1 vm on a windows 8 vm on a windows 7 vm on a windows vista vm on a windows xp vm on windows me