420th Subscriber Special: Installing an SSD in a Power Mac G5

Thanks for 420 subscribers! Keep blazin' it, buddies!
In efforts to make the dream computer of my childhood faster than light, I run into a few snags....
Specs:
1.6 GHZ PPC G5
4 GB Ram
32 GB SanDisk SSD
Nvidia Geforce FX 5200 Ultra

[@TipsterLIVE]

When you said, "never say die" I laughed because my PowerMac G5 just died. LOL

[@charlesswenson259]

D0000d. Didn't know you were a Druaga fan

[@maxus151]

Give this man a small loan of a milion dollars

[@xRemRooodx]

+Maxusexe CZE How is a million dollar a SMALL loan? :P

[@raudi.audirs]

+Pinta Dubbs you are a hermit

[@raudi.audirs]

that doesn't make any sense Pinta Dubbs

[@xRemRooodx]

Nope.rajeevpandrangi

[@MohammedMuaawia]

+Pinta Dubbs You been living under a rock?

[@brickman409]

That's such a great looking computer. Looks modern over 10 years later. I'd love to get one of those to gut and replace with modern PC parts.

[@PlaidDin]

+Louis Reed I actually like bland and plain designs of PC cases. Then I spray them on the side and have my custom sprayed artwork. If you can draw and cut, tho! :-)

[@AntiqueMeme]

+komputerkid12 why?

[@brickman409]

***** just from looking at it, it looks like it would need to be heavily modified to fit a standard ATX motherboard.

[@brickman409]

***** nice!

[@Mrxplosiongaming]

same

[@-xLucas]

I would get that computer just for the case

[@MohammedMuaawia]

I still can't get over how good it looks even after 13 years

[@-xLucas]

Awe, Now I don't want it

[@AntiqueMeme]

+Sharded Gem lmao

[@leberkassemmel]

I need that case. But they are still expensive on eBay!

[@UmbreWolf]

+Michi Lo I have 6 of them, most I paid for one is 20 bucks, paid less for the others. Gotta love electronic threft stores :P

[@rectangle1013]

Internet gold

[@ScienceAlliance]

Absolutely right

[@cartoonhead4506]

;)

[@alexlelel]

I think the IDE interface on the G5 is designed only for the optical disk drive.

[@Druaga1]

So perhaps it's "throttled" somehow to optical disk read speeds? Using this did feel like I was working off of a boot CD. XD

[@alexlelel]

Yes, that my believing.

[@TimurTripp2]

Nope, the bus is an ATA 100. Just to make sure I booted from my MDD’s IDE hard drive in my G5 (same generation) and it operated at normal speed.

[@sunnymas2656]

+Timur Tripp So maybe very internal reasons, because SSD works not like a HD.

[@myrkurvr]

+Kaminishi the real problem is it needs more fans BRING IN THE INDUSTRIAL FANS

[@gregswallow9721]

I have a PowerMac G5x2. Swapped the 1 device IDE cable for a 2 device cable. Added a 120GB IDE HDD (master) over the DVDRW (slave). Took out the 160GB SATA HDD & added two 1TB SATA drives. I installed Leopard on the IDE HDD & setup the SATA drives in an array.

[@blastshieldaddiction]

Carpets love electronic components. especially when you rub them all up in that burber. thanks for sharing. cheers.

[@prescott231233]

Yas finally someone who combined my favorite things! Smoking and computers! :D

[@JackDoonerMusic]

This is the best laugh I've had all day haha... love the commentary.

[@bpali2001]

awesome quality. awesome content. awesome reviewer. just everything is awesome

[@leberkassemmel]

Yea, thanks, i need this when i get my Powermac. So i don't make the mistakes you made. Can't believe you had 420 Subscribers like 1 1/2 years ago. Now over 100x as many... PS: 0:35 It is still my dream computer. But back then it was way to expensive for me. So now i am going to get one =D

[@grizzogor]

I can't wait for the 420,420th Subscriber video :3

[@demonetizeddemonetisedinmy1890]

Judging by your arms and fingers I want to know what UFOs you pilot

[@racerhomie]

These PowerMacs always Turned me on!

[@racerhomie]

super fast !!

[@bradleypariah]

I have a Dual 2.0 GHz G5, and I used Carbon Copy Cloner to migrate my HDD to an SSD, but after moving the SSD from a USB bridge over to internal SATA, the G5 couldn't detect it. I guess I'll just buy a SATA II SSD. Glad you mentioned that. It may be 3.5 years since you said that, but I'm no Mac genius, and you helped me.

[@tannermaurer14]

dude ur awesome seriously keep up the good work tbh ur hilarious new subscriber!

[@christopherrobinson387]

I've never owned a mac but i have always been fond of a Crosley Digital Jukebox that had a built in mac mini. The one thing I will always want.

[@awakejake9296]

man the design of that Mac looks up to date, as a pc user I think it doesn't look like a 10 year old computer at all

[@awakejake9296]

I am thinking about getting a Mac sometime tho

[@LogowireGaming]

+thejakeman ' you should stay with windows

[@awakejake9296]

+axertie yea but I has nostalgia for da good ol days

[@tschuuuls486]

SATA 3 should be downwards compatible to SATA 1 and 2. Weird SSD you got there :D

[@linksmith1057]

OWC makes top notch SSD hardware for just about every Apple computer ever made in all the different busses, IDE, SATA 1, 2, and 3.

[@MagicFerret69]

I just found your channel. You made me laugh. You made my day. Lol a new sub for you

[@VanHonkerton]

420th comment, blaze it.

[@mdoughan4109]

hella epic bro

[@fyredragon69]

ayy +Druaga1, didn't help but notice that there were 2 Power Mac G3s when you showed us the Mac Pro...

[@WOSArchives]

I loved my old Power Mac G5. That piece of computer hardware used to be extremely fast for me, even in 2010. Unfortunately, it died due to the common cooler leakage issue. However, it is still my favorite Macintosh model that I ever had. I still have the plate from it.

[@radostin04wastaken]

Windows OS DAFUQ?! your avatar is the famous sega-sonic image, you are called Windows OS and you are commenting on a MAC video

[@WOSArchives]

radostin04 I'm a bit crazy. XD

[@radostin04wastaken]

Oh, and you had a G5?! thats messed up

[@WOSArchives]

radostin04 Yep. Did I say that I was a "bit" crazy? I'm DAMN CRAZY!111!1!!11 HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAhaHH

[@phoneguy2005]

Now u almost have about 70,000 subs. U came a long way from 420 subs

[@astyrquartz9471]

if I went back to February 1st, 2015 and showed this guy the subscriber count today, he would probably flip out.

[@nooredindarwish5746]

One of my favorite channel

[@petie40]

sata 3 is backwards compatible with sata 2 and you will not see drive until it has been formatted from my experience.

[@TipsterLIVE]

This week I will also be installing an SSD in my G5. Should be interesting.

[@blublum7916]

This guy cracks me up!

[@TylerStartz]

You're amazing dude xD

[@mostroev3802]

This thing's surprisingly modern.

[@shiftymiata]

13:20 I lost my shit. You sir, just made my day.

[@Mefrom_Here]

Oh shit you made my day I'm gonna subscribe now

[@charleswolfman]

Something funny is going on with that PowerMac, mine boots to desktop in under a minute, in fact I'm watching this video on it.

[@JamieTheEnby]

Ive been following you even before this account, I used a account named james is best craft, your video made with the camcorder has the last screenshot of it remaining. Its been a while. Just got a 2009 mac pro for 200 bucks, dual xenons, slapped a 1050ti in it and played a few games on it. I plan on upgrading it to bonkers.

[@time-lapserpro4370]

Subbed a year and a half ago.... This channel sure grew fast!

[@ElectrofizzStudiosCo]

You have a couple more than 420 subs now :o

Feb 1, 2015 - 420 subs Nov 5, 2017 - 76,194 subs It's been a blazing ride Druaga1 & you can only get HIGHer from here! ;)

[@thelousy1347]

I came here to see him celebrating his 400 subs and realised now he has 23000 in one year.

[@willbarine]

hahaha man that intro had me thinking your employed by apple!

[@nameless8692]

What begins with 'F' and ends in 'UCK'? FIRE TRUCK!!!

[@nikolinaristoska1687]

Apple:Oh shit it just turned 10 years old. STAPH ALL DEH UPDATES Microsoft:Oh wow it just turned 10yrs old. Lets see if it will run windows 10

[@unapersona100real6]

Linux:get a ramdom low end distro and you can use youtube on a old atom netbook

[@crylune]

This aged like milk with Windows 11

[@leonardobishop]

ur bloody hilarious u got my sub button

[@DavidTriphon]

Hahaha.... Now I want to see Marble Blast Gold again.

[@ChrisNova777]

another thing to note is that the sata spec in this machine is only SATA 1.5gbps - if u really want the best performance of a real SataII spec SSD inside this machine (i dont think they work with sataIII spec drives?) is to get a proper SATAII card that connects to PCI-X slot such as this: www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124026&cm_re=syba_SATA_pci-x-_-16-124-026-_-Product which supports Sata 3gbps speed as well as Mac OSX .. and lets u connect up to 4 sata devices... whether u want to do RAID or not.. your device will be capped at 1.5gbps unless u get this card which boots the sata thruput by double. this upgrade in combination with a decent AGP card (www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Blog/4B4B7BA2-7ABB-47F1-87AC-B03D37942BEE.html) will make a huge difference on the usability of this machine!!!! also because the sata card has 4 ports u can easily get a esata bracket and install an external sata port to connect esata drives.. rock n roll

[@desther7975]

Just throwing in a SATA 1-compatible SSD would have made everything so much easier. You could also get a SATA optical drive to work in the drive bay with a molex to SATA power adapter and that longer data cable. I speak from experience on that front. Actually performed that little upgrade on a G5 tower at one time, along with installing a SATA PCIe card (this was the quad model) for more and faster hard drives, although it can be tricky getting one of those that will be bootable in that system.

[@HikikomoriDev]

This is so fun ... thanks for showing us lol!

[@kyle5-archive]

I can't believe this was 5 years ago.

[@bpali2001]

i have this same exact model:) its awesome for photo editing and graphic design.

[@dylc413]

holy shit man! a fellow bassist!

[@bluemetal04]

The reason why the SSD is slow is because it is on IDE. Not sure what type of IDE it's using but they go from 33mb/s to 133mb/s, while the SATA II goes up to 2gb/s. Installing the OSX on a SATAII SSD would more than likely give it a significant boost in speed.

[@kzdz]

Oh my goodness.. Is this a stand up???😂😂😂

[@IKS-Exploration]

interesting thanks for sharing :)

[@LakoIsFun]

I'm apart of the first 420 subs.

[@Fhrgaderga]

I like your monitor. I have one of those as well.

[@joesteer5867]

I'm gonna get one of these and remove anodised coat and polish it they look amazing

[@dbozan99]

For future reference, OWC sells IDE, SATA2, and SATA3 SSDs for decent prices. An IDE SSD could make for some fun future videos in other computers.

[@FairPlay137]

Isn't this the first video where he opens the video with "Hey smokers, Druaga1 here..."? Holy SSD! This is also the first video where he installs an SSD into a _______!

[@SONSTHREESIXTY]

SanDisk 120GB SSD one for each SLOT. saw a video guy opened every folder on the desktop page within 5 seconds THAT G5 is super lighting fast

[@Darieee]

Just found a dual g5 on the street, I get like quite legit framerates on youtube with webkit something something for powerpc - installing / deinstlling flash destroys it though - had to reinstall the entire os to get youtube working again

[@RubyIsBored]

this video began druaga1's addiction to putting ssds in random computers, remember kids, dont do SSD

[@Rudzge]

the debut of the sacred sata to ide converter.

[@fiverotaku477]

The problem with trying to use that SSD is simply...firstly your SSD is using an ATA to SATA converter...but the biggest issue is the ATA33 channel used for the optical drive...the last version of G4 (FW800) used three seperate ATA interfaces...Primary is ATA100...ATA66 for Secondary drives...and ATA33 for Optical chain...OS X uses a swap file very heavily exacerbating your issues...

[@bitwise016]

Hilarious comentary, That is me installing windows 10 on an old PC

[@xlike5377]

Happy 420!

[@Browningate]

This video pretty much sums up the PowerMac G5: Fancy case, looks promising, and then you have to do an inordinate amount of hand-holding just to get it set up. If you make it that far, you'll be too exhausted to deal with the locating of software, the installation of Flash player, and the futile battle with OSX's mouse acceleration. It just has an endless barrage of problems to throw at you. Its sleek case seduces everyone within 100 feet of it, yet it's almost impossible to get rid of one after going through the effort of finding it. The PowerMac G5 is the perfect representation of something that always works much more poorly than you ever remembered it and never ceases to disappoint. 33:32 sums it up perfectly: "If you want to go to a PowerMac G5, just don't, because it's not going to work very well and you're going to spend a lot of hours pulling your hair out.." Also, Lol at 29:58. It's moments like those that give this channel that extra touch.

[@TimurTripp2]

I don't get your hate for the G5. Yes it's old, Mac OS X Leopard is pretty dated, they are not known for reliability like the 2006 Mac Pros are, but the dual and Quad G5s are still damn fine machines when they work. There is a lot of older PPC Mac OS X software they can run well, and a Linux installation is also possible if you're desperate to keep current.

[@Browningate]

Timur Tripp Did you even watch the video? I don't "hate" this computer, I just feel like people need to snap out of this trance of making excuses for it. Even if you had the most powerful model, that doesn't eliminate the hand-holding or obnoxious mouse acceleration in OSX. Linux distributions have extremely limited hardware support for these as well and it's a far-cry-crapshoot if anyone's G5 will work with it.

[@TimurTripp2]

Whatever you mean by the "obnoxious mouse acceleration" in OS X, I use Macs almost exclusively and this does not bother me. Now if you were to say the G5 is a machine best suited for hobbyists and not the average user, I would completely agree the average user is better off with something newer like a 2008/2009 Mac Pro.

[@Browningate]

Timur Tripp I don't know how some people are so ignorant to the OSX mouse acceleration problem. I guess you have to see it in action, so here's how: time yourself performing a precision mousing operation (clicking seven buttons very close to one another for example) in OSX, then try it in the same application on Windows and compare the numbers. OSX reduces your mousing productivity by a staggering degree. As for the average using being "better off with...a 2008 Mac Pro", I would disagree because those machines are way overpriced. You can get a laptop with vastly superior performance to the G5 and better connectivity, portability, and battery life for $150 easily. If you don't need portability or battery life, a normal desktop with comparable (or even superior specifications) to the aforementioned $150 laptop can be had for even less.

[@TimurTripp2]

***** Would comparing OS X to Linux suffice? I do plan to install a Linux distro on my Power Mac G5 Quad. But honestly, if that was such a problem, MacOS would not be a preferred platform for creative professionals. For an average user to be looking at a Power Mac G5 they must have some preference toward or are planning to switch to MacOS. I would not recommend a $150 cheap Windows laptop to them, that's for sure. The 2008/2009 Mac Pro is past its prime but still has decent-enough performance for modern tasks, MacOS El Capitan support, expandability/room to upgrade, and the excellent Mac build quality/design which is a decent improvement on the G5's.

[@Tenrys]

Holy balls you gained 66,609 subs in a year.

[@crapcopter]

and i watch this with a power mac g5 sitting next to my pc

[@N3KN1L]

Thinking it would have been faster with a Quantum Bigfoot... haha

[@bradyc.2459]

An SSD in a Power Mac G5, in theory, actually seems like a good idea. You could use an 80-40GB SATA II SSD to install leopard (or Snow Leopard+ on a Mac Pro) and have a second 250-500GB HDD for files.

[@TheMinecraftgosmoo]

Haha, Warm GUI feeling. ;)

[@asdfasdf4345artsdfg]

Super Monkey Ball crossed with Marble Blast Gold, am I right? xD

[@jiopjiop]

Dear Druaga1, I have a very important and relevant fix! I've just installed an SSD Samsung 850 evo 250 GB and it works perfectly without an adapter. I just used the B-slot. How to do it? General: G5 has two slots, your main drive (mostly in the A-slot) and a B-slot. 1. Plug the SSD into the B-slot while your main drive is still connected in the A-slot 2. Turn on your G5. Your SSD (even Sata-3) should be visible but needs to be formatted 3. Open disk utility and format the SSD to Mac OS journaled extended 4. Now, make your SSD a bootable clone of your main drive (e.g. by using SuperDuper) 5. Once cloning is finished, turn off your G5 6. leave your main drive in the A-slot... SSD must remain in B-slot 7. Turn on G5 again and hold the option/alt-Key 8. Choose your SSD as the boot disk 9. your G5 is now running with the SSD as the main drive. And your former main drive is now "just" another HDD you can use. Obviously, you can now format the former main drive HDD in the A-slot and use it as a time machine backup drive. Hope this is understandable and helps your viewers.

[@Druaga1]

Thanks, I might try that out at some point.

[@stevebez2767]

+Druaga1 There is also many parallel cuda fortran openacc openmpi mac osx 10.5.8 multithreading jobs you could do for cocoa framework limitations of what compiling with quad or multi where single processor multi drive setup?Pleez do it...we might have lots more SAP than just smart pjhone app store update xp wins mug?

[@dereinfallslose9665]

Subscription incoming^^ Love your videos :)

[@michael37327]

If you own a PowerMac G5 you should purchase an Apple Systems Diagnostics CD. The CD performs a hardware check on all of your components and if your fans are running on full speed the CD performs a thermal calibration and readjusts your fan speed. This CD will keep your PowerMac running for years to come. The Disk is called ASD 2.5.8 and is sold on Ebay

[@blublum7916]

"installing mac OSX onto a piece of paper"...."god dammit!"

[@opasimmer6577]

It's the motherboard man.

[@Dr18Registered]

He has 63k subscribers now. Wow.

[@fattestroyal198]

13:20 is golden.

[@TheAppletechhead]

St least it's faster than the macs that we have at school

[@peterwillymcjohnsonator7837]

try a SATA II SSD. They are out there. I've seen them.

[@celebritymartyr8426]

and a fucking modem port? gets me every time

[@BrianMartin2007]

I know this is an old video and likely doesn't matter now, but it will see SATA-III drives, you just have to run the Disk Utility during the installer phase and partition it.

[@VSigma725]

Wow, that's a basic G5! I'm looking for a 2.3/2.5 Dual G5 or a dual/quad-core myself...

[@VSigma725]

I ended up finding a 2.3DP G5...with no RAM or hard drive. It's getting 8GB of RAM and an Intel 320 160GB SSD with 10.4.11 and 9.2.2 for Classic Mode.

[@fairyball3929]

"Oh no..." Fans continue to *INTENSIFY*

[@BoxxerCore]

Printer drivers 3.4 GB What!😲 That seems big.

[@ab.3800]

My G5 doesn't have the ports for the antennas, it has two ethernet ports in that spot and no modem. Has a built in wifi/bluetooth antenna underneath the case latch

[@Lethaltail]

"The unbeatable" *Blink, Blink, Blink...* (RIP)

[@FatheredPuma81]

Guess Apple should have just gone with a silver heatsink eh?

[@sunnymas2656]

I think, the system always checks the SATA Ports first, and then the IDE-Port. i.e. searching. So maybe that `s the reason why it is so slow with the SSD ? Thanks for testing. - I ordered my PPC G5 last week for 40 EUR. (without HDDs) include parcel service. Finally I have a Computer with Double CPU ( 2 x 2,2 Ghz ?) , 8 GB RAM, 2x500 GB HDD and a MAC OS X ...for less than 100 $ (Long Dreams come true) After 12 years it is still "a pc on steroids" (like Apple said on its presentation) It is possible, to change the standard NVIDIA graphics card (64 MB, PCI-e) to a 512 MB graphic ram model - in a G5 ? Greetings from sw-germany

[@AlexS-sc3gb]

That’s where the meme voice came from!

[@connormatthews9674]

"stress testing a NeXTcube" PLEASE. PLEASE.

[@namsaying]

wait... this was only almost 6 months ago!?!?!?! HORY SHET

[@classicsagat]

Damn, someone went super saiyan lol

[@hudsont.105]

Now I want to buy a Powermac G5... Really badly...

[@Pendleton115]

Weird, the disk drive in my G5 has a eject button... That way you can open it without a keyboard or OS, Possibly it's because my G5 is a dual CPU machine? I really don't know... :P

[@yuvalshifman8531]

420 blaze it mannnnnnnn

[@jim8230]

I know this is an old video...but with the older computers that I work on I have used IDE SDD's that work fine. You can find them on eBay.