Drum Teacher Reacts: Vanilla Fudge "Keep Me Hangin' On" on The Ed Sullivan Show | CARMINE APPICE!

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[@ghettostreamlabs5724]

They played the same song on Jimmy Fallon about 10 years ago, you should check it out. Link is here (or on Carmine's YT channel): kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKbMpHqhe8h3jqs

[@MCW1955]

I have watched this performance dozens and dozens of times, and I am impressed every time!!! Oh yea, it’s effin’ LIVE.

[@susannebass5503]

Awesome reaction Andrew! So glad everyone enjoyed my pick thought it was time to include another legendary 70s rock drummer🔥🥁

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Absolute FIRE!! WAHAT A PICK

[@lloydzufelt7514]

Outstanding

[@bobc.5698]

The sticks kept slipping out of his hands in 1967 in Phoenix. It was hot and sweaty. So he started holding them like this. Now listen to their 2019 version of 'Stop In The Name of Love' killer.

[@iagelagedonato3248]

This grip is made to help with the stick tricks. Carmine's brother, another legendary rock drummer, Vinny Appice spoke about it in a video on his youtube canal.

[@m6hill983]

Thanks! I had a feeling it has something to do with the stick tricks, because you don't see that in basic playing styles..

[@toe8946]

knew it!

[@gregjones861]

Andrew: Carmine is amazing. From his time with Cactus to Jeff Beck to his incredible 80s band Blue Murder and the unknown Guitar Zeus album, he keeps innovating and killing it!

[@velvetbees]

Carmine is a beast of the highest order. He stunned us back then and he stuns us now.

[@bpivr]

Ian Paice said DP wanted to emulate VF. You hear it more in the early Purple material that had long keyboard intros. Plus, much of their early songs were covers (Kentucky Woman, Hush), just like The Fudge’s.

[@SylviusTheMad]

Vanilla Fudge did a wonderful job of these heavy pop covers. Their cover of Ticket to Ride is why Deep Purple has Beatles covers on each of their first two records.

[@mrmoon9958]

Led Zeppelin opened up for Vanilla Fudge when they started. John Bonham loved Carmine Appices Drum set. Great Bands.

[@jcc3999]

He also the one that got John the deal with Ludwig drums if you believe the story he talks about that John got the triplets off of him at that concert

[@CarolJ967]

Just saw the Fudge LIVE last night! What a rare treat! I waited 55 years to hear them live and it was just magic. They played this song as their signature piece at the end of the show. Carmine Appice plays with just as much passion as he ever did. As do Vince Martell, Mark Stein, and Pete Bremy (for Tim Bogert who passed 2 years ago).

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I love this

[@kalter_wind]

A while ago I left a comment naming Vanilla Fudge as one of the precursors to Black Sabbath. Now, musically, they might be different; however, the vibes and energy are pretty much on par. The other band I mentioned back then is Blue Cheer - definitely worth a listen, e.g. Summertime Blues.

[@lemmyisking9512]

Yes! Paul Whaley was another monster on the drums. Vanilla Fudge, Blue Cheer, Iron Butterfly, and Steppenwolf were the big four of American heavy rock and precursors to a style that would evolve into heavy metal.

[@OttawaChad]

Carmine is one my first favourite drummers when I first started drumming as a kid, a few years ago I had the privilege of meeting him when VF came to my hometown, I started walking towards him backstage and I froze, me, a grown adult, was tongue tied, I didnt know what to say, I turned around and walked away... after a few minutes collecting myself, i tried again... walked up to him and apologized and told him why i walked away, he smiled shook my hand and said "Its cool man" we took some pics and he signed a drum skin for me, I told him how his drumming style and technique are what I emulated my whole life. That drum skin and pic hangs proudly on my wall in my office.. Legend Years before that I met his brother Vinny, i had a skin signed by him as well, but it went missing

[@eightbars1]

That's Tim Bogert on bass and vocals. later to play with Jeff Beck on the Beck Bogert and Appice album, with the greatest version of "Superstition" on it.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Oh wow! Thanks 🙏

[@lemmyisking9512]

​@@AndrewRooneyDrums Jeff Beck is my all-time favorite guitarist, and he recently passed away. He played with some amazing drummers over his career, including Carmine Appice, Cozy Powell, Vinnie Colaiuta, Terry Bozzio, Narada Michael Walden, Simon Phillips, and Tony Newman. He also worked with Keith Moon (as well as Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones, and Nicky Hopkins) on the song "Beck's Bolero" from the album 'Truth'. That lineup was a first attempt at what would eventually become Led Zeppelin. Highly recommend it.

[@edyoung6573]

That is Truly a Gem!!!! The Passion in the performance is off the hook!! And you got to love Carmine's performance!! Love the showmanship!!

[@markmilner842]

Love Carmine’s drumming. The work he did with Jeff Beck, Shuggie Otis, and so many others, is just amazing. And it begins with this. Killer track.

[@dmarlan]

oh that bass player! Killing it!

[@earlshannon1048]

Great job on the reaction!!!! This was a great performance and live which made it even more special!

[@eightbars1]

...and this song was as big hit for The Vanilla Fudge. Such a great band out of the 60's

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

So good 🙌

[@commentingonly7337]

His work with Cactus is also insane. Their Parchman Farm is just blistering.

[@Ash_Hudson]

That fulcrum he's using is basically so he can spin the stick between notes more easily. Btw, is the background beat that starts at 9:02 Alice in Chains' Rain When I Die?

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Very well spotted. From my recent AIC drum cover :)

[@beatlemania54]

I've seen this video so many times because I love it. I've seen it on other youtube venues and when you see what young people say about it. They say there on drugs or over acting. I feel sorry for the younger generation that don't know what passion and dedication to your craft is. Musicians are a different breed. If their good they put everything they got into a performance as these wonderful performers have.

[@pilesovinyl]

They were virtually unknown when this came out. This record was their breakout nationally and they built a following on the strength of this. I saw this on Sullivan when it first aired and it was one of the heaviest, hardest driving records of its time. I still enjoy seeing it.

[@stevenhodgson834]

One of the greatest covers ever, and a fantastic live performance. Amazing thay Appice plays like that, whilst also singing backup (of which there is a lot, in that song).

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

What a tune!!!

[@billsenior213]

Listen to Carmine sing "People Get Ready"...

[@JohnTCoupe]

This is the Vanilla Fudge song that they are known for....done so many. many times by them. I have have been a fan since day 1 ..they played @ my high school just as they were getting started...The Young Rascals opened for them back in 1969

[@impalaman9707]

There's actually a story behind that red "Austin Powers" suit Carmine is wearing. According to his autobiography, he had a girlfriend in London who would shop on Carnaby Street and ship new clothes to him from overseas. So yes--technically Carmine and Austin went to the same shops on Carnaby for their clothes!

[@Liveeruptsuj]

It is unbelievable. One of the great live performances, for the ages.

[@adrianciel2154]

I am metal drummer and I am using this fulcrum when I am ´´cold´´ on gig or have tired big thumb on the hand....its perfect for this case :)

[@rickcook7308]

Covering songs and changing them quite a bit was vanilla fudge MO.. covered Eleanor Rigby too

[@helenlig323]

And on the ED SULLIVAN show, no less. Ed Sullivan, bless his heart, RIP. Sullivan and others (like Dick Cavett) enabled this stuff for TV; such a bizarre colliding of cultures. This is the way that it was! I was a teenager then, but now I understand how the time was such monumental weirdness. Before disco came and that bubble crashed. Thanks Suzanne and thanks Andrew!

[@billsenior213]

Saw Vanilla Fudge in NYC in 1969 and then saw them again in Old Saybrook, CT in 2019. Fifty years didn’t slow them down. Carmine is going strong along with other originals Vinnie and Mark. Pete replaced Tim in 2010 and does a great job of keeping this group relevant. Also saw them in early spring in Jim Thorpe, PA….can’t get enough….

[@rickcook7308]

Thank you for recognizing one of the OG of Rock. Realistic Rock was number one book for drum instruction in 70s. Legendary work with VF , Jeff Beck Rod Stewart.. solo on vanilla fudge live album was ground breaking in pre Bonham era

[@adladl4276]

Killer performance here. Never heard it before. Loved it. The power and energy they create is absolutely phenomenal. Way beyond the sum of the parts.

[@donniekilpatrick8904]

I saw it as it appeared on the Ed Sullivan show that nine 68. Carmine on the drums made his mark on the rock world that evening. Fantastic drummer! The best!

[@GroovingPict]

Jonathan Frakes really rocking that organ :p

[@phoenixw2]

That is a belter of a song, love it! The band are so dressed and 'on show'/on point. Can't recall how I first heard of them. But, looking back on the history of heavier rock they figured as notable.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

This is killer

[@sharonelliott2366]

This was arguably their most famous cover.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

What a BANGER

[@martianshoes]

Ask any Brit that caught their first tour of England. The left an indelible impression on scores of bands that came later. A LOT of stunned players in the UK.

[@garygomesvedicastrology]

They definitely raised the bar

[@soundweg]

Thanks for having this! Goooosebumps!

[@pierremenard868]

Such emotion , band totally into it. Great live performance. never paid much attention to the band before I saw this video a few months ago.

[@justingoulet9714]

Carmine a true legend Later he played with a band called Cactus formed with Bassist Tim Bogart from Vanilla Fudge Cactus a hard rock band MONSTER ✅ out One Way or Another title track of the album Also saw him with Jeff Beck (Beck Bogart & Appice) Became a great double bass drummer Feel power groove facility Amazing 😍😍 live

[@javying]

Cactus is my favorite band..... the album : one or another.....

[@finessemuse2123]

Cactus is so cool and heavy!

[@SylviusTheMad]

There's a great scene in Anvil! The Story of Anvil where Lips corners Carmine at a festival to gush at him about how great Cactus was.

[@finessemuse2123]

@@SylviusTheMad Cool! Will check that out!

[@lemmyisking9512]

​@@SylviusTheMad Robb Reiner from Anvil is another great drummer and yet another heavy rock/heavy metal drummer highly influenced by jazz. Check out the song "Swing Thing" from their album 'Juggernaut of Justice'. It's an homage to the big band era jazz drummers like Bellson, Krupa, and Rich. Anvil still tours and they're fabulous!

[@olivemd]

I only vaguely remember this group. I was in high school at the time. I’ve looked them up and jarred a few memories.

[@rickrichardson1141]

Thanks so much for this . I remember watching this on the Ed Sullivan show and being surprised how much the camera actually focused on Carmine. I saw them in December 68 when zeppelin was their back up band and then again in May of 69 when the roles were reversed. And these were two of the greatest concerts I’ve seen. Even if I don’t remember too many of the details 😵‍💫

[@mlwsf]

His brother. Vinny Appce did the DIO fronted version of Black Sabbath (aka Heaven and Hell) as well as the DIO solo band.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Yup I've covered a few of those songs

[@mlwsf]

Not sure if you 're up on great punk Drummers but I really think that you would love Bill Stevenson from the Descendents and ALL. Very technical but he always seems so relaxed @@AndrewRooneyDrums

[@arthurpendragon1610]

Dude---he's literally HANGING ON to that stick for dear life. Anyway he CAN! That weird "fulcrum" is just how he grabbed it to avoid LOSING it. He is hitting THAT hard it doesn't matter. Just DON'T LOSE THE STICK!

[@donnelson6694]

Vanilla Fudge were known for their amazing originals as well as covers of popular contemporary hits.

[@rhallnapa]

There is a video of him giving a quick 5 minute lesson to Yoyoka when they met at NAMM.

[@happymethehappyone8300]

Sometimes it's absolutely incredible what some of these groups can do when covering a somewhat ordinary song,, a great example being,, Dionne Warwick "Walk On By",, then listening to this absolutely incredible cover of it,, The Stranglers "Walk On By"

[@jkdetroit961]

He held the drumstick in that manner so he could flip them while playing. I read where he said he would sometimes use the grip with both hands in order to do the stick flips.

[@philipreedwallace]

He twirls them long sticks . Showmanship. This video blew me away the first time I watched it. Imagine how loud it was. 👍

[@guyprins6340]

In answer to your question, their first album was almost all covers but they stretched them out and made them heir own. Check out Elenore Rigby and Ticket to ride. This song is on the first album too.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks Guy! 🙏

[@paulmorris8762]

they recorded covers of several Beatles tunes and were a huge influence on Deep Purple among others

[@justingoulet9714]

Carmine what a great drummer he later played with a band called Cactus formm

[@lemmyisking9512]

The original plan was for Carmine and Tim from Vanilla Fudge to get together with Jeff Beck and Rod Stewart of the Jeff Beck Group, but Beck was injured in an automobile accident, so Stewart joined the Small Faces (now simply the Faces) as half of Steve Marriott's replacement (it took two people to replace him) while Appice and Bogert joined up with Jim McCarty and Rusty Day to form Cactus.

[@dennyliegerot4021]

Wow...I haven't heard their version in many years, yes I'm old. Nice

[@wolframreactor74]

Great pick, as always, Suzanne

[@book3100]

I really think the Muppets' 'Animal' was based in Carmine. Maybe not, but what a close fit.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

🤣💯👌

[@Cherr1]

Love your reaction to this, especially because you hadn't seen Carmine play before. From today's perspective, it's hard to recognize how radical he was--how radical the whole band was--at the time. Everything he did was new to us rock and roll fans (some of it he borrowed from older jazz players, but we didn't know that). Of course everyone picked up on what he was doing, and now it's standard drumming, but it was mindblowing then. And regarding his between-the-fingers grip, another drummer who played like that is Tommy Ardolino from the immortal NRBQ. They are widely considered the best live band ever, and the rhythm section of Tommy and Joey Spampinato rocked and swung harder than band before or since. Here's a clip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYXLZWCYi66di68

[@SNMIKE1]

Andrew, Carmine uses that grip, as I do, when stick twirling is in rapid succession. He returns to same grip when playing the chorus. Godspeed my friend!!

[@wirebrushofenlightenment1545]

I've been a big Appice fan for years, since hearing the Beck, Bogert and Appice stuff. It's really cool to see a drum professional's take on it. Triv: I believe that Jim Henson said that this very TV performance was a good percentage of the inspiration for Animal. Which is paraise indeed ...

[@Wizardofgosz]

I just discovered that Ed Sullivan video last night, and it BLEW MY FREAKIN MIND. I was born too late. Imagine being in the audience for that? OFF THE CHAIN.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Mad energy

[@Wizardofgosz]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums My hippie friend from the '60s hates that because he prefers the original.

[@Marta_Lledo_Video_Channel]

You have my snare drum...I had a Champagne sparkle set of Ludwigs made in 67....the same set Michael Shrieve was playing at Woodstock

[@psrandy1]

The Supremes did this originally 1966 and Vanilla Fudge covered it 1967. I think his grip is more getting ready to twirl a stick than comfort or control. I have played in bands and studio bands for 50 years now and I can't work that fulcrum position for myself. But whatever works ya work it.

[@jessicagreene1773]

I have seen the video a bunch of times and I never noticed that fulcrum grip until you mentioned it !

[@CarolJ967]

By the way, there is a video of the Vanilla Fudge doing this song live on the Ray Anthony Show I believe in '68. It was a longer version with 4 dancers as well. In that version, Tim Bogert brought his unique style on the bass to open the song. There is one more live performance on YT video...The Beat Club live in 1967. Beat-Club was a German music program that ran from 1965 to 1972. I recommend that one because you have a really great look at Carmine's unusual technique.

[@clasmaster1471]

Wow! Really cool!

[@indyfastal]

Growing up with 4 older siblings in the 60s & 70s, I got a hell of education in rock & roll. I always thought this was the original version until many years later. I still consider this the best version. One other thing, they are still touring...

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

STILL TOURING! HA! Amazing

[@airzillarocks]

Mega fan since my late, older brother and his friends turning me on the awesome music of that era when I was quite young - So fortunate to have been exposed to Vanilla Fudge, The Yardbirds, Cream, Zeppelin, The Jefferson Airplane, The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield, David Bowie, and many more - One of the best era's of rock music, period...\m/

[@KLG777]

Check out a song by Harry Nilsson, called: Jump Into The Fire, with drummer, Jim Gordon. I'm sure you know he is, unfortunately, there is no video, great drum solo.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Jim is one of the greats!

[@infernaltim]

Okay, I was NOT expecting the Austin Powers clip and I freaking lost my mind laughing. 😂

[@donniekilpatrick8904]

Carmine Appice, what can you say? Fantastic and in a class alone above all others. The greatest!!!!!

[@goncalodias6402]

Carmine gripped his sticks like this so he could do twirls without the sticcks flying of his hands. Thats what he said in an interview somewhere in youtube

[@deborahhalbert3372]

Can’t believe I missed this. What a way to start the day!

[@billwhitman4125]

Carmine was a great drummer. His younger brother Vinnie was a great drummer too. Vinnie started a band with bassist Rex Brown from Pantera ...Kill Devil Hill. Great Rock n Roll. Carmine was great in Beck, Bogart , and Appice. Classic rock n Roll

[@mannybravo237]

I seen Carmine drum w Rod Stewart on the 'Blondes have more fun' tour; seen Vinnie w Sabbath, then a few times w Dio🤘🏼

[@billwhitman4125]

@@mannybravo237 , Shame on me for not catching Carmine at least once...my loss. I did sed Vinnie with Kill Devil Hill and Rex Brown. If you haven't yet, you should check them out. The album Revolution Rise is amazing. The 2nd song, Crown of Thorns is my favorite track on the album. I caught Dio with Rainbow back in the 70s. Saw Sabbath tour Sabotage at Madison Square Garden in NY. It was my 1st concert. 1975. I can piece these line ups live, minus Carmine and different bands. I never caught Rod Stewart either, and I love his early stuff with Jeff Beck. His version of I'm Losing You is great.

[@mustang1244]

The whole Vanilla Fudge album is great.

[@finessemuse2123]

This live performance on Ed Sullivan was 🔥!!! Great pic Susanne to kick off Led Zep week! Carmine needs more coverage on the channel, LEGENDARY! His playing with.Cactus in 1970 is even cooler and heavier.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

🔥

[@andyharman3022]

Tim Bogert was in Cactus, too.

[@finessemuse2123]

@@andyharman3022 yep and he laid down some great bass lines, deep in the pocket with Carmine.

[@badgerello]

This might be true or not; but I remember someone saying the reason he’s so brutal in the cymbals chokes is because the hihat in the backline kit supplied for this show was busted and kept falling apart. Regardless - this is one of my favour live performance by any band let alone drummer. It’s so beautiful and raw and passionate.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Agree Brad. FIRE 🔥

[@petebremy49]

It wasn’t a backline kit, it was Carmine’s kit. He always chokes rhe cymbals like that.

[@willyroussel3563]

i think i still have this album, just for this song. it was one whole side of the album.

[@martysmith5260]

I saw this as a kid and was "freaked out" by it. I'm not even sure I knew what "freaked out" meant until I saw this!

[@827dusty]

Carmen Appice, one of the great Rock drummers ever, is so good. Considered even toda7y, to be an idol of Appice's drumming prowess.

[@samumutka9236]

Fun fact vinny appice also used that hand grip. He said that he used that just for fun or when he's right hand was tired and he wanted to switch things up.

[@drmmadude]

This is Carmine Appice. This grip is because of my stick twirling with the first 26 inch bass drum. Check out shotgun on Ed Sullivan show. Look up the history. Thx for the cool review.

[@PaulThoresen]

When are you doing In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida by iron butterfly? Thanks 🙂

[@susannebass5503]

I've thought about requesting that song several times but can't find a good vid of the drumming 😢 hope you did enjoy this one though

[@mlwsf]

must have missed those but I am kinda new here just catching the Maden and Sabbath vids

[@brianjomansenstinesmith5132]

Tim on bass for win

[@garygomesvedicastrology]

This was an abbreviated version of the song; they did a version that I think was about three minutes longer on their first album. Although they did improvise at times, this was very close to the single release. Carmine did a fantastic drum solo on the the VF album Near the Beginning; just relentless.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Soooo good

[@Frustratia]

Carmine's brother Vinnie drummed for Sabbath for a spell after Bill Ward left.

[@cecilkeebler4254]

Great song, great band. @Andrew Rooney Drums , check out the live version of Black Licorice by Grand Funk Railroad. The drummer sings and lays it down on the drum from start to finish.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Sounds great!

[@gladiammgtow4092]

This cover Album: Vanilla Fudge Released: 1967 Vanilla Fudge "Keep Me Hangin' On" on The Ed Sullivan Show, January 14, 1968

[@tonyeckman4822]

Damn. That was actually heavy!

[@miquelsimo6662]

Thanks!! Gracias!! 🙏🙏🙏

[@gbulmer]

That's a great video. Carmine Appice is a great showman. Maybe, do a Beck, Bogart, Appice reaction as a little commemoration of Jeff Beck? Yoyoka did a couple of covers of them: _Superstition - Beck Bogert & Appice / ... Yoyoka, 10yo_ kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXzTqHWop8aBmZY (4m:38s) _Beck, Bogert & Appice - Lose Myself With You / ... Yoyoka ..._ kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3yopHypo9SNpck (3m:43s) and _Superstition - Beck, Bogert & Appice / ... YOYOKA with friends (Live)_ kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGO3aZKvjZ6rZrs She met Carmine Appice at NAMM. Here's video showing him showing her a 'stick-roll': _Yoyoka's 3rd Travel to LA❗#2_ kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGjGhXuhjdGGlbc timestamp 9:38 to 12:39 I think he says he's seen her videos! Also, he played with Char. About 2 weeks ago (Feb 8th), Yoyoka released a tribute to Jeff Beck: _Jeff Beck - Led Boots / Drum Covered by YOYOKA_ kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6O0oa2LmshjZpY about 4m:16s It's sounds fierce, but she makes it look straightforward. Very funky. Best Wishes. ☮

[@jimcolombo9150]

OMG Best version eva!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carmines great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a grip

[@andyharman3022]

I like both version of the song. The Supremes did the light, airy, fun version. Vanilla Fudge did the intense, heavy, powerful version. I've been watching that video over on the Ed Sullivan site, and can't get enough of it. I was 6 years old in 1968, so would not have watched it, but it would have shocked Mr and Mrs Average American who just sat down for a pleasant night watching Ed Sullivan.

[@scosal7100]

Could the advantage of that grip be ease of twirling the stick?

[@fractaljack210]

A great choice.. For a treat listen to Beck, Bogert, and Appiece.

[@billsenior213]

In 1969 saw them in NYC, In 2019 saw them in Old Saybrook, CT (originals Mark, Vinnie and Carmine) plus Pete….yes 50 years later and maybe heavier than ever. Earlier this year saw them in Jim Thorpe, PA. Will keep attending until I die or they die…..You can see their performance on Jimmy Fallon from 2014. Give Eleanor Rigby a try……

[@jakeloranger1419]

Carmine and his brother Vinny both use this grip. I believe it came about from Carmine spinning his sticks and landing with a stroke on a drum. He spun his sticks holding them in between the index and middle finger. Rather than returning to a regular grip to play the next hit, he just kept the stick in between his fingers. He found he rather liked the way it felt and continued to use it in addition to using a more regular grip.

[@billnipp2309]

I held my left stick like that years ago when I cut my pointer finger and had stitches. I wasnt able to bend my finger for a few months. I adapted, it wasnt so bad. ty

[@drummer4hire12]

Carmine is pure Sagi.......Pure fire!!!!!

[@FeralPatrick]

Thumbs up (all thumbs, vocally) before the review even starts!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

🙌

[@TheOicyu812]

I've always considered this live band performance as having played a inspirational part for the film This Is Spinal Tap. I'd also bet that Carmine Appice influenced the "Mad Drummer" Steve Morse.